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Hey friends, we are

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fearless. Welcome to

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the podcast. My name is

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Frances Young, and we are here

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on episode five.

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Oh, it's five. Before I get

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into this episode,

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I want you to already know

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what your human design energy type

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is. And if you do

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know it, fantastic, pull

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out your app, pull out that PDF

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that you got somewhere from someone and

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follow along. See if

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what we're saying resonates with you. How

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do I better understand this part of

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my graph that looks like

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it's calculus?

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Or something that just doesn't make sense to you. I'm

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not a math person. And

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if you do not have your

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graph, if you do not know

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what your human design energy

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type is, don't worry,

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I got you. You're gonna go

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to my website, www.

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Dot Frances Young

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F R A N C E S

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Y O U N G followed

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by C P T

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or catphilliptiger.

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com. And you're going to go to a page,

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your energy, you're

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going to input some information, and

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then you're going to have your human design

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energy type and you

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can follow along. So

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let's get into it. Today I have a guest.

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Her name is Vanessa. And

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Vanessa, how did we meet?

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We met when you were a guest on my

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podcast, not too long ago,

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and we had such a fabulous conversation

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that I had to ask you to come

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back for a second time.

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And now I get to reverse

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role and hang out here

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and just be in your zone of genius and

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a totally different level. So I am

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looking forward. Give me

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all the goods on my human design.

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Let's go. Let's do it. Also, I

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have to say episode five for

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you. My life path number

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is five. So thank

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you numerology goddess

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that you didn't know you were. Oh

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my goodness. And your five, one profile,

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like how cool is that? Yes.

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And it's cool that one of my,

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I'll say the premise of the podcast as

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well, just to remind everybody. I

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love to have my friends

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and family, people that I know really well, because

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I jive with them. But then you just meet people

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and you just jive with them. Like

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Vanessa and I, we'd never met in person.

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She lives on the other side of the world to

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me currently. And

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you just asked me back. I got super

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excited because we're both Generators

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for our energy type, and

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you happen to have the

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same birthday or technically

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the day after my best

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and closest friend. Oh, I

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didn't know that. So are the

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energy that lives within your body

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is very similar to energy

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I've interacted with before and know well. So

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again, it's kind of like I already

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know you. Yeah.

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It's like a backstory. So I interview

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my friends and my family to help them better

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learn their design and they just

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go ham to rack my genius

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brain on design. So

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Vanessa, question one, let's hit it. Question

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one, based on my human design,

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what would you say my

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strongest gifts are? I

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love it. Okay. To pause

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for a moment. I'm going to hold up Vanessa's

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human design graph because I draw it for every

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guest. It's a little bit of my nerdiness. Maybe

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it's my cancer rising to

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get it in frame for those that are going to watch it

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potentially on the interwebs. So strongest

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gifts. I'm going to look at it for a sec I got to take

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a second. Here we go. First

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off, just from even me drawing it, my attention

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goes right to that yes, you are a

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Generator and you know that. So

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your authority, as

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you know, how your body makes

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a decision, is your sacral

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center or your gut can

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also say that and so the

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gifts that are within there are very

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strong because they are linked to

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your authority. So I'm going to look at them again.

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We're going to go three, let's go three.

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10, 34,

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I see Vanessa writing them down,

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amazing. And

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57, but 57

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is in the spleen and we'll get there and I'm, you're like,

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Oh, okay. So 34

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is one that I have and it's actually

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very important to my authority as well.

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So being a very prominent and strong energy

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that speaks to me all the time.

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34, they

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call it in the many different

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ways that it is called. Magnetic

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Charisma. It's

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just this moment that there are certain people

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you meet and how

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they speak, how you can

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literally see the frequency of golden

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orb around them. This to me is a Generator

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as a whole, but if that person happens

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to have 34, there's

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a different, if

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you see a Generator or, you

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know, other Generators, Vanessa, And

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you can see the light and the energy

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that's coming off of them. It feels like it's

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pulling you in. It's one of those gifts

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that's heightened, if somebody has

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it present in their graph

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and we don't have to try hard.

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If we actually try hard at bringing people

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to us, it actually shuts the gift down.

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Does that, I see you nodding like quite a lot.

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Does that resonate with how your energy feels when

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you're around people or when you're lit up? Definitely.

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With having 34 for myself, I have to put

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that one aside of my ego

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wants to put that one aside sometimes to forget that

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I have it. So I just, I'm naturally kind walking around

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like a kid when I'm super happy giving off the good vibes,

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and I can feel when people are feeling it. Yeah.

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When if for myself, if

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I've just come from a dance class and I'm super

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lit up or I've just eaten something I really

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like. And

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so when you're in your energy, that feels

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awesome, and your gut has to make a particular

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decision, letting

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how your body has just been

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excited, whatever

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that first reaction is going to be to something that you

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have to decide, let that light,

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it's the only way that I feel like I can describe it with words

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guide you because it's particular

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to every person. It's

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connected to the

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G center, to the yellow

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square on the graph, at least for what I've,

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drawn, and it's connected

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via GIFT10. I

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also happen to have that one. So this channel is where

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actually a big piece of where we really resonate with

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each other. TEN is called

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the love of life. And

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for those, People listening that if

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you potentially have 34 or 10,

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regardless of your energy type, 10 is,

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for me, I have a love hate relationship

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with 10 for being a strong gift within

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myself. It's actually my north node,

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to draw in some astrology, so where I am

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headed in this life. But loving life,

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again, when I'm doing the things I love as

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a Generator, I just, I'm so in love.

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I'm so satisfied. This is amazing, right?

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And it's also very much linked

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to where .I'm going, yes, north node headed,

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but G center is the center

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of direction with regards

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to looking at the chakras

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from our human design graph. And

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my dislike with

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this gift of just like knowing the

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other side of what it can feel like for

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us to interpret what is the

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strength and what is not the strength of it

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is that we're actually designed

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in air quotes, fall out

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of love with life

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with this gift on purpose. Putting

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is this greater bubble of when

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we come back to the things that we love, the people

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that we love as being a Generator, when we find

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this like oomph again after we've learnt

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a lesson or had whatever

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happened to us that causes us to

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fall out of love with something or

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out of our energy

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that we know is us and this excitement.

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When we're bringing ourselves back

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and generating our life force

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again, it's like

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everything is that much juicier for

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us. We like love and appreciate

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our body, our time

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on this earth, this moment that we

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then pass on to others. And

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for me, not knowing you very long, I

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can see that that is something

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that within you, how you teach,

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you love every ounce of

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what you do, who you are, your

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people, but it's okay if

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you've been through some life experiences to

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get there because you're the five

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one that's going to teach us about it and it's

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strong within you. It's

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something that can't be denied.

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A loving life for us is really

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awesome when we're loving it, but

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can sometimes feel deep when

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we're not. The

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human experience. 57.

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Now you were, Oh my God, at 57

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prior, have you looked up 57

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before? Yeah. And

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what is your interpretation of it? Just, I'm

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curious, how do you feel about it so far?

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Well, what I associate with the 57

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and I don't have the training like

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you do, but to me it's the psychic

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channel. It's the intuitive channel.

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So it's the, automatic

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knowing it's the downloads. It's

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the, which is my work. It's who I am.

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It's just, yeah, the automatic intuition, the psychic

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channel. Amazing. Is that

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right? It is one

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of them. And all of the, all of the gifts of our,

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these 64 numbers that are on a human

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design graph are essentially the way that our

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body is intuitive, it slash our mind,

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however, 57 to

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give a different way of saying it to

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give it a, title is

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called reading the room. Ah,

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that totally makes sense. And again, psychic

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is another way, like you just know. When

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you walk into a room, you just know

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what happened. It's like you

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could even pick up on the words that were potentially

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said, because words are energy. Also 57

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and GIF 48 are to me

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these like super intuitive

11:23

even more, magical ones,

11:25

if we want to say them in that way, or psychic

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ones. And 57 comes

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out of the Spleenic Center. It's

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one of the triangles that are on a human design

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graph on Vanessa's, I happen to color

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it in pink today, and

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57 is in the moment knowing,

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it's fight or flight. So it's tying it into,

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you know, what happened if you're not supposed to

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go in that room and Interact with that energy,

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or if you're working

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with a client or a group of clients all at once,

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you're already picking up on the vibe

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of, okay, what

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do I do and say

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with this group of people as opposed

12:03

to, and, or this other person

12:05

that I just worked with. In

12:08

the moment knowing, it doesn't have to

12:11

be a second guessing. I'm

12:13

going to ask a question to go along with this to see

12:16

how maybe this has turned into

12:18

such a strength for you. Is

12:21

there, was there a time

12:23

in your life where you weren't as

12:25

confident with feeling like this? Is

12:27

there a time where your brain

12:30

or maybe conditioning of how you're brought up

12:32

that was like, I don't know if

12:34

I'm this? I

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think there was. many times

12:41

where I didn't trust

12:44

my knowing. But

12:47

if you got me up in the corner and we're

12:49

like, no, seriously read the room.

12:52

I would say a hundred

12:55

percent. My read is spot on. I know

12:57

what I'm reading. I have no doubt.

12:59

But the trust had

13:02

to be built and I think the trust came,

13:04

you know, the lack of it came from a

13:06

number of different areas. But

13:09

yeah, if there's one place

13:11

where I'm like, no, that does not

13:13

get questioned. It's my

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read of the energy. I

13:17

know what I'm reading and,

13:19

that does not get compromised. Especially

13:22

now because the trust

13:24

now, is very much

13:26

a core part of who I am, but that

13:29

was earned. That was built

13:31

the trust. It didn't come as

13:33

naturally as reading the

13:35

room. Okay, cool.

13:38

And it like naturally fed into it

13:40

then at that point. Your

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conviction in the way that you were saying that

13:46

I'll bring up another tidbit of personally

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I think a strength for you and how

13:50

you read and express as something

13:53

I haven't talked about yet is you

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have what is called an open

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throat out

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of the chakras. So it is

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white, even though on

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the graph and it does

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have a couple channels coming out of it, but

14:10

an open throat, something

14:12

that's such a true gift about that, is

14:14

it knows what to say

14:17

and when to say it. That

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is the strength of that. So just knowing that, yep,

14:22

this is the energy. I'm just going to say it when I need

14:25

to say it or when I'm asked upon,

14:27

and I'm going to trust that. The

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only downside sometimes to an

14:34

open throat or a whale, say

14:36

the reverse of the strength is

14:38

that sometimes it feels like it always needs to speak

14:40

up, or I don't know what to

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say and when to say it. So I feel like I need

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to say it all. In order to be heard.

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Does that resonate to that at all? Yeah,

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totally. Yeah.

14:54

But then the, like the learning of it over

14:56

a period of time, I feel like just

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the way that you said that there was so much conviction,

15:01

the tone of your voice. I was like, she knows

15:04

and she took time to trust it, but she

15:06

know, okay, mic drop, you know, read

15:10

on energy. Cool. So yeah, 10,

15:13

34 and 57, super strong

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gifts for you with related to your

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authority. I love how I picked out

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the most psychic one that you've already

15:22

connected with. Cool.

15:24

Super cool. Can I ask a quick

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question? Yeah. Like a side

15:29

tangent. Yeah. So when

15:31

the, when it's colored in, in

15:33

the throat, if it's defined,

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how is it different? Like

15:37

the actual center itself, I'll hold up the graph in a sec.

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So I have the opposite. I have a

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defined throat. If the throat, which is

15:43

the first square coming down from

15:45

those two triangles, that's white. If that was colored

15:48

in green or whatever color that would mean it would

15:50

be defined. And

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mine happens to be that and

15:55

what that means in difference to it being

15:57

open is that I

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truly have to speak my, yes,

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let's put air quotes, truth or the things

16:04

that I want to do. As soon as I hear

16:07

my voice say something from what's

16:09

happened in my brain or

16:11

someone, has asked me a question, whatever

16:15

comes out is very much then brought to

16:17

life. Because

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the throat center, when we refer to

16:22

it in human design, is the center

16:24

of manifestation. It's where things

16:27

are in the world all of a sudden, whether

16:29

we write it, whether we

16:31

speak it, sing it, and

16:35

both the open and the defined, it's have

16:37

manifesting powers. It doesn't mean just because

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yours is white does not mean

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that you cannot manifest Vanessa or

16:43

anybody listening. If your throat center is white, don't

16:46

worry. It just, it wants

16:48

to be heard in a different way

16:50

by your energy itself, like

16:53

your physical body and how it responds

16:55

to your own throat and

16:57

how the world responding to you responds

17:01

as well, or just interacts with

17:03

what you've said. Hmm. So

17:06

interesting. Did that feel like

17:08

it answered it for you? Yeah. Yeah. Totally.

17:10

Yeah. You're welcome. Question

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two. Based on my design,

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what are my top

17:19

three biggest challenges and

17:23

any tips on how to work with them?

17:26

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I love how

17:28

in each question so far. You've

17:31

asked like miniature question, but

17:36

it's like, it's not, it's totally

17:38

how I would ask a question too. That's

17:41

why I like feel naturally called to say

17:43

this you're like, I've got

17:45

this idea and then kind of go on

17:47

an expansion. So,

17:52

three things that are the struggle

17:55

and how to deal with them. Yeah. Okay. One

17:59

will just go with a very simple one

18:02

that all Generators can relate to

18:04

and is also my biggest, one

18:07

of my biggest things that I struggle with is

18:10

my feelings of shoulds or

18:12

shouldn'ts. And

18:15

just the idea of

18:19

how it energetically feels in our body

18:21

when we're trying to decide, should

18:23

I do this or should I not

18:25

do this? And I'm specifically

18:28

trying to say it as not

18:30

trying to say yes or no, like how we body

18:34

decide as the generator, but how our brain

18:36

is relating to just the conditioning

18:38

of our life culture, how we've

18:40

been brought up where we currently live, all

18:42

of the things. Because

18:45

every day and how it relates

18:47

in my brain, I'm

18:50

still trying to remember in

18:52

the moment of when I open the fridge,

18:54

let my body pick the thing

18:56

as opposed to should I have my

18:59

tea this morning because of

19:02

X reason, but yet I just really

19:04

want my coffee. So I just, just have your coffee

19:06

and remove, the conversation of should

19:08

and should not. Can

19:11

I, why just, is that just Generators?

19:14

It's a heavy conditioning for us. It's

19:16

a heavy way in which

19:18

at least a Generator in

19:20

comparison to other energies

19:23

and how we resonate

19:25

with the things that we want to do versus

19:27

what the world tells

19:29

us we should do to put should into the sentence

19:32

is one

19:34

of our energy types strongest

19:36

conditioning of what we deal with gotcha.

19:39

Okay. Every energy and every person

19:43

deals with their toying inside

19:45

of what should I be listening to? How am

19:47

I going to go about my day on the micro to

19:50

how am I going to go about my life? And this

19:52

is what my mom told me to do, or this is

19:54

the way that is said to

19:56

be the five best

19:59

foods to eat by X

20:01

person. And

20:05

how it relates in our brains

20:07

and bodies, we

20:10

typically, at least for

20:12

like where humans are at evolved

20:14

in a society right now, Generators

20:17

have usually been praised for

20:20

things that they

20:22

didn't want to do. That

20:25

makes them feel as though they should

20:28

it just naturally turns into that for

20:30

us and

20:34

it's our struggle, but once you

20:36

start to play with taking out the mind

20:39

thought of should or shouldn't I

20:41

find that has been at least successful

20:44

for me and

20:46

maybe it's a different wording for you of

20:49

it's not should and shouldn't, but

20:51

how if I just break

20:53

my brain cycle of thought when I'm

20:55

starting to feel when I'm choosing whatever

20:57

I'm doing, let alone when

20:59

I'm going to schedule a podcast

21:01

call or, you know, how just scheduling life

21:04

lately, I just

21:06

go with the in the moment and try to remove

21:08

the should or should not. Does

21:11

that resonate for maybe how your brain

21:13

speaks to it or just like how you have

21:16

operated more lately or what's,

21:18

what's going on in your brain after saying that? I

21:21

feel like, I've used

21:23

the strategy before, of removing

21:25

the should, and that did make a difference

21:28

at that stage. Where I'm at,

21:30

at this stage is I find

21:32

what's most helpful to remove the should

21:34

is actually in my body,

21:37

by moving my body

21:39

in a new way. That's

21:41

what breaks the conditioning. That's

21:44

what breaks the pattern because

21:46

the language piece feels

21:49

solid to me. Now

21:51

at this point in like just my own personal

21:54

development. And

21:56

that, when I noticed when the energy gets

21:58

stuck and it feels like that should

22:00

energy, cause I can, it

22:03

feels different, right? Like there's a different sensation,

22:06

a different energetic to it. So I

22:08

notice it. And then I

22:10

work with my body more as a partner

22:13

to be like, all right, like,

22:15

how do we move this should

22:17

energy? I'm not thinking a mental

22:19

thought or I'm not languaging it in that

22:22

way, but I feel it specifically. And then

22:24

my body's like, you want to do

22:26

this right now? And I'm like, okay,

22:28

I want to do this right now. Then the next thing

22:30

that I know, I'm not

22:33

in that should energy anymore.

22:35

I'm in that 10, that

22:37

love of life, I have a body and

22:40

I just moved my body and it

22:42

feels good. Then that 34 kicks in.

22:44

So that magnetism from that love of

22:46

life. Then all of it just,

22:48

reinforces the, reading

22:51

of the room for myself

22:53

of like, okay, now where I, where can

22:55

I direct my energy now that

22:57

I'm outside of that conditioning

22:59

or that patterning of the should. And thank

23:01

you to my body who

23:04

just broke that pattern. So.

23:07

I'm working with it in a different way.

23:10

That's what I find most powerful for

23:12

me at this point. I

23:14

just learned from you. I knew it. I'm

23:16

like, okay, that's my next level. Got it. As

23:19

I'm a, for people listening trained

23:21

as a professional contemporary dancer, dance

23:23

has been my life for forever. And

23:25

you know, all the things that you can look up about what I do movement

23:28

wise. I'm like, okay, that's the next step. So

23:31

if we've got people that are like shoulding in their

23:33

minds or that's new concept, I'm removing

23:35

the shitting in the minds and then remove that shit from

23:38

the body. Oh, yeah.

23:40

Okay. Another

23:43

thing about your particular design.

23:45

I'm just gonna look at the graph. Okay. Part

23:49

of me wants to go up to the top and then

23:51

also talk about ego. That's

23:54

two things. Let's go with ego

23:56

first I love talking about ego in the

23:58

human design sense and I haven't done it on the podcast

24:00

yet. So this is my moment and

24:02

you have an open ego. We'll

24:04

talk about what that means. I also have one, but you

24:07

happen to have a couple of gifts coming out of

24:09

it. One thing

24:11

when we have an open center

24:13

or just when we're talking about the throat center, anything

24:16

that is not defined, that's not colored in

24:20

and it has what we call our hanging

24:22

It doesn't have

24:24

a connection to another center, defining

24:27

it. There's

24:29

a different way in which we can have conditioning

24:32

affect us about the vibe

24:34

of what that center means.

24:36

We can potentially be conditioned

24:39

to think and feel and do things in certain

24:41

ways. That's not in alignment

24:43

with what this says. But for ego, the two

24:46

gates and hanging gates that you happen

24:48

to have in that center

24:50

for you is 40 and

24:55

26, I

24:57

love to use the sentence that

25:00

is an ability to sell

25:02

ice to an Eskimo just

25:05

this ability to speak

25:07

to whoever you're in front of to

25:10

allow them to understand what you're saying

25:13

doesn't have to be mischievous

25:15

gift or something that's underlying with not,

25:17

a good intention, it's, you can communicate

25:20

with somebody that you're trying to get them to understand

25:22

something. When somebody is trying to sell something

25:24

to somebody that they may already have

25:26

that thing. Right. And

25:30

40 is, I'm

25:32

going to say it in a very actually different way than

25:34

normal, cause I like want to say it in this way is

25:37

a desire to be famous, to

25:39

be seen in

25:41

front of people. And

25:45

famous can be like in any sense, just be

25:47

seen. But then also the other side to

25:49

it is, have these deep moments of solitude

25:52

because I need to have the opposite to

25:54

being in the spotlight

25:56

of how I can be seen in my

25:58

life. Super

26:01

interesting. Open

26:06

ego for me and human

26:08

design describes my life story

26:10

quite a lot, different aspects of it. It

26:13

comes down to one sentence is that

26:15

when anyone, if you have an

26:17

open ego in your human design

26:19

graph, that naturally

26:22

gives you the energy when you're born that

26:25

you know you

26:27

are enough. You know

26:29

that you have the ability to

26:32

do whatever you want to do.

26:34

You don't have to prove yourself if you have open ego.

26:37

Your energy knows what it is.

26:41

But the caveat of open ego is

26:44

that it feels like it's the literal exact opposite.,

26:49

Soaks up as a white center

26:51

to me is a sponge. That's my tried,

26:55

tested, and true analogy for

26:57

the white centers. It

27:00

wants to soak up all the defined egos

27:02

of the world that have constant motivation,

27:04

that have constant it's also a motor

27:06

center, so it makes people like do. And

27:10

create, We're

27:13

soaking up all that energy in the world, these

27:16

open egos. And it's like, you need to do

27:18

more. You need to do more. You need to prove

27:21

more of yourself. Have

27:25

there ever been scenarios

27:27

for you? I'm going to go, take it broad in your life

27:29

where you felt you've had to prove to

27:32

somebody, as you're saying something that

27:34

this is correct, that your ideas

27:36

are correct. That

27:38

you've had to work to get somebody to

27:40

purchase a program in order to prove

27:42

that you're a worthy teacher. I'm

27:44

drawing this specifically to 26. Yeah.

27:48

Well, yes, but it's

27:50

just interesting the way that you're framing

27:53

it because you're saying

27:55

that inherently, you know,

27:57

that you're enough yet you

27:59

act and feel in the opposite

28:02

ways. And I have

28:04

absolutely seen that take place.

28:07

My entire life where I'm

28:09

selling myself to

28:12

somebody else, but as

28:14

I'm doing it, I'm like, what am I doing?

28:16

Like, why am I doing that? I

28:19

feel really confident and secure

28:21

in my gifts or whatever it

28:23

is that, I'm like, why did I just write five

28:25

paragraphs about trying to like,

28:28

get this person, this random person

28:30

to like, like, and approve of me? I'm like,

28:33

I don't, I actually truly

28:35

like and approve of myself. Like what WTF?

28:38

You know?

28:41

So, yes, I have

28:43

absolutely seen that. And I really

28:45

had to create a discipline for

28:48

myself of, watching

28:50

where I overgive, watching where I

28:52

overstate, watching where I cross

28:54

my own boundaries, for

28:57

what? Really dialing it back

28:59

and going, all

29:02

that I actually need here in this moment

29:04

is my self validation,

29:06

my self trust, my self respect,

29:09

and I already have it. So let me

29:11

just, double check whatever

29:14

it is that I just wrote and,

29:16

take three out of those five paragraphs

29:18

and dump them because, I

29:20

don't need that. I don't need somebody else's

29:23

approval. So it really feels like

29:25

a practice or a discipline you have to do,

29:27

but now I'm a little more in the habit of,

29:30

I don't do that. But I do still

29:32

have the tendency. So I have to watch and

29:34

pay attention to what

29:37

is triggering me to

29:39

respond in that way.

29:42

Yeah, which I don't have an answer

29:44

to. I don't know if that's like in the chart

29:47

or not, but I think that's just living

29:49

life Like,

29:52

you know put it as the biggest sense I

29:55

think you illustrated that Beautifully, Vanessa,

29:57

of how you know those qualities

30:00

about you because you have such self awareness, but

30:02

it's still a constant practice for you.

30:04

And I think that's such a beautiful

30:09

way in which how you see it as a strength,

30:12

but something that you still know that you're just human

30:14

about it, the same. That's

30:17

a part of your human experience and the things that

30:19

go on in your brain. I

30:21

would also say that that one even like links into

30:23

the 5 1 profile. I'll draw in

30:25

other things. So profile and human

30:27

design is linked

30:30

to describing us as a personality.

30:32

How, our brain sees ourself

30:34

and how the world sees us. And

30:36

the five one is very much superhero

30:39

teacher energy. The five

30:41

just wants to keep communicating to the world. It wants

30:43

to keep saying, yep, I got you guys. I'm going to save

30:45

you no matter what I say. I just keep saying it just

30:47

wants to keep going. And then it

30:49

realizes, oh yeah, I don't have to save everyone

30:53

with my knowledge. I'm just going to save the people

30:55

that like really want to hear it right now. Or,

30:58

I know that however I'm saying my

31:00

voice in this moment will get to people

31:03

that are meant to get to it when I'm supposed

31:05

to be seen, which is the 40 moment

31:07

when, people are meant to see

31:10

Vanessa as this person that is meant to help them.

31:13

Not necessarily save them, just help.

31:16

I feel like I had one other thing to say

31:19

just about open ego as

31:21

a whole. Ego is the part

31:23

of us that also really wants to keep us safe.

31:27

It's kind of this like reels us in of

31:29

whatever we're doing, as

31:31

a human. I

31:34

for so long, my

31:36

brain tangent wants to go to Alan Watts

31:40

and his teachings have now been like

31:42

awesomely remixed with random, cool

31:44

techno music on Spotify. If anybody is, having

31:46

a moment where they listen to those things. I listen to it

31:48

too. And that we learned

31:50

to make friends with this part of us that

31:54

very much knows with open ego

31:57

that we're good, regardless

32:00

of, we are safe The opposite,

32:02

the defined ego is

32:04

a really strong energy to be around. And

32:09

with us being the sponges, we got to wring

32:11

out that. moment

32:13

of, yep, I did enough and take

32:15

out three paragraphs. I'm going to go to third

32:17

struggle that I mentioned, having open crown

32:20

and open Ajna particular to

32:22

Vanessa's design. So if anyone,

32:24

regardless of your energy type has the

32:27

two triangles at the top of your graph white,

32:30

or they've got hanging gates in them, something like

32:32

that, but they're open. Your

32:35

energy really wants to take in the world.

32:37

It really wants to be inspired

32:40

by its environment, what it sees.

32:43

The kind of places that

32:45

you may depending if you do like

32:47

these places, it potentially loves to be in

32:50

an airport because it's around the potential

32:52

of so much change. There's so many different

32:54

people, there's, it feels

32:56

like a limitless place and

33:00

the crown wants to be inspired by limitlessness

33:03

because anything can drop in. For

33:05

you and your work of me knowing

33:07

a little bit on the outside, you always

33:10

want to have those drop in moments or

33:13

your energy is seeking it. And

33:17

the Ajna represents conceptual

33:19

thought, opinion, and

33:22

when it is open, it wants to soak in

33:24

opinions to use

33:26

the sponge. It's like, yep, I

33:29

want to know them all. Was

33:31

there any point, say

33:34

even prior to this particular day or an energy

33:36

that may resonate for you that is I

33:38

feel like I just want my opinion to be right?

33:41

Of whatever

33:44

it is you're talking about, whether it's, you know what

33:47

food to eat or that, you know, whatever.

33:52

This is going to make me sound so

33:55

egotistical, but I'm going

33:57

to say it anyway. I don't

33:59

know if I have

34:03

a desire that I want to be right.

34:06

It's more that I know that I am right,

34:09

you know what I mean? From an

34:11

energy perspective, because when I'm reading

34:13

something, I'm so I know

34:15

that it's correct, but

34:18

I don't know if that answer. It totally

34:20

does. And I'm going to go on a RIF because,

34:23

the Open Ajna, when it. Knows

34:27

what it is good at, or that,

34:29

like, you know what you are good at, the things

34:32

that you have the opinion on, the open

34:34

Ajna is always right in air quotes,

34:36

to say, to use the word right as

34:38

language in this place to say right or

34:40

wrong. But the struggle

34:43

with the open Ajna is that if it thinks

34:45

it has to have opinion on every

34:47

single thing in the world, like from politics

34:49

to this, to that, to whatever, then it's

34:51

like trying to spew out everything

34:54

it knows in order to feel like

34:56

it's right. So that's why I asked that

34:58

question to see how you initially picked

35:00

it up and you were like because I know of

35:02

the things that I know and I was like, that's it. So

35:05

in so called you are using

35:07

the Ajna and it being white for you in

35:09

a way that feels correct for

35:11

you as opposed to thinking that you need to be right

35:14

about everything. Yeah, I definitely

35:16

don't think I'm right about everything

35:18

at all. But when it comes to energy,

35:21

when it comes to reading energy, what

35:23

you are the best at, like what your, incarnation

35:26

cross your purpose on this life of what you feel

35:28

is like, Yep, that's me. Yeah.

35:31

Yeah. So I feel like for

35:33

potential individuals that have it open,

35:36

you don't have to, feel like you need

35:38

to know everything in order to be correct

35:40

everything or have an opinion on everything. So

35:42

I feel like you're using that in the

35:45

way that your body wants to. I

35:47

love that. I love that. But now you

35:50

know, okay, so what does it mean if, if, if I

35:52

see somebody that has an open Ajna, they're

35:54

trying to soak it in and relay all these opinions

35:56

and it could be trying

35:58

to go. Yes, I can see.

36:00

I can see that you had a question about it. Do

36:04

you think, or do you know,

36:07

do more empaths have

36:10

an open Ajna like they're

36:12

just sucking it all in? They're being

36:14

sponges or. Is that just,

36:16

it's just speculation. We don't know. That's

36:18

a great question. I actually don't know, but

36:21

the way that I love to speak about

36:23

just the using the word empath

36:25

as a whole now is

36:28

that we all have the ways in which

36:30

our body through the human design

36:32

lens specifically. Is

36:35

empathic and

36:38

for yourself, Vanessa, you've got

36:40

that entirely open solar plexus.

36:42

So you soak in every single emotion

36:45

and amplify it. And I'm, yeah.

36:47

And you know that from literally of how

36:49

you interpret yourself being an empath.

36:51

You're like, yeah, I know so much. I

36:53

feel you. Two

36:56

non emotionals like talking about their feelings is like,

36:58

Oh my God, it's so deep. But

37:01

say for anybody

37:03

that resonates with just wanting to

37:06

feel like their opinion is correct,

37:09

if they have an open Ajna, I've

37:12

watched it work for

37:15

others that also have it open like yourself,

37:18

and I can see when

37:20

the switch goes. Or

37:22

when they don't even realize that a switch

37:24

goes, that they don't

37:27

necessarily need to give their opinion

37:29

in that moment, but their conditioning or

37:31

the way that they, and this is my perception of

37:33

this also maybe in the way that

37:35

I make judgements about people when I know their

37:37

design. So I'm trying to, be authentic

37:39

to myself in this moment, but how I interpret

37:42

it. I'm like, Oh, this could be a

37:44

switch where maybe if they knew that about themselves

37:47

that they would relieve some sort of stress in their

37:49

body, or they would maybe

37:51

actually feel heard in a different way.

37:55

So it

37:57

definitely is an interesting empathic quality

37:59

for people that have it open. My Ajna is defined

38:03

and for a long period of my life.

38:07

Probably up until maybe even like

38:09

just even last year, I

38:11

felt like my opinion wasn't heard,

38:14

but I am always speaking my opinion, it

38:16

comes across quite clearly. I have a particular

38:18

channel that connects my thoughts

38:20

to my throat. It's like literally

38:23

called a clear communication of my opinion.

38:25

It's cool, but

38:27

I felt like people never really. Like

38:29

people, some people did, but for new

38:31

concepts, I started to talk about, say in this case,

38:33

human design, I felt like people weren't hearing me. And I

38:35

was like, I

38:38

got to find a way that I need to talk about it. Maybe

38:42

another reason why we're doing it on a podcast format.

38:47

Yeah. So that's my experience with Defined

38:49

Ajna. And I feel like people when I spoke

38:51

up sometimes didn't hear me in a room, regardless

38:53

of what I was saying, even though mine, my

38:55

opinions are very much mean it

38:57

can sometimes be very difficult for people to sway.

39:00

What I have is a preconceived opinion

39:02

about something because that energy is defined

39:04

within me So it feels

39:07

it feels a little bit different than you being like when

39:09

I know something about what I'm supposed to know. I know

39:13

Yeah Do you

39:16

get sometimes

39:18

too overwhelmed by

39:20

certain types of large environments

39:23

aka that open crown is like oh

39:25

my god How do I deal

39:27

with this? Yes,

39:30

definitely. Yeah. Yeah.

39:34

You have a defined, I love where I'm

39:36

going with this, struggle of different things moment,

39:38

and then we'll get to question three, but not yet.

39:41

You have a defined root and you have a lot

39:43

of gifts coming out of it. So

39:45

root center in human design

39:48

is linked to the adrenal glands in our body.

39:51

It does not have to go,

39:53

go, go do, do,

39:55

do all the time, but

39:58

it knows exactly when to act if

40:00

we give it, it's like extra bursts when

40:02

we want to. And.

40:07

Every generator, just like any

40:09

other energy type, if it was an open sacral

40:12

energy, gets burnt out. And

40:14

in some ways, defined roots and

40:17

defined sacrals for yourself, as you have both,

40:19

Vanessa, like we go over burnout.

40:21

I have open root, so it's a different experience, but defined

40:24

root wants to push and you've got sacral, so it

40:27

wants to push and you're like, yeah,

40:29

I know

40:32

it all too well. It's

40:35

once we become aware of it. Then

40:38

there's still I think a certain amount

40:40

of just life experience of learning what it's

40:42

like when you're not burning out to like, even

40:44

like level out the, I'm tired of still

40:47

doing this process.

40:50

Do you have any other riffs or moments that you

40:52

want to ask about those? No.

40:55

Cool. I always check in just to see, and I like,

40:57

do full circle of like, is there anything else

40:59

ruminating in there? Yeah, no,

41:02

I will say here's the open

41:04

throated. Yeah, that's why I check

41:06

in. I will

41:08

say that. Thinking of the 40

41:10

and the 26, the way that you describe

41:13

that is really helpful. I'm not as familiar

41:15

with the 26, but the 40,

41:17

as you know, I know a little bit

41:20

more about gene keys and geek

41:22

out about that. So I'm familiar.

41:24

I have the 40 twice in my gene keys

41:26

profile. And I think of that

41:28

more as, Codependent,

41:34

like learning how to dance with codependency

41:36

and boundaries and

41:39

really honoring the need to hermit.

41:42

And sort of, yeah, more creating

41:45

structure, sound structure in your

41:47

life. And but the way that

41:49

you've talked about it, the desire to

41:51

be famous, the desire to be

41:53

seen. And, and

41:55

then the need to withdraw in order to

41:57

manifest that desire

42:00

is a completely new way that I've

42:02

not heard about it and so

42:04

it's actually really, I feel

42:06

like I know myself more now.

42:09

Am I just, am I admitting that I really want to be

42:11

famous? I did when I was younger I was like,

42:14

Really into the idea. I

42:16

remember before we got all

42:19

fancy. I'm going to totally date myself

42:21

and I think, I don't know if I've told this

42:23

story to you or not, but when I was,

42:26

I want to say 16,

42:28

17, I really

42:30

wanted a video camera. And

42:32

at that time, the only video cameras

42:34

that they had, the kind that you

42:36

like put on your shoulder. Yeah.

42:39

Camcorders of some kind.

42:41

Yeah. It was like some kind of camcorder

42:44

and it was like super expensive,

42:46

250 or something ridiculous like

42:48

that. Even though now we just walk around

42:50

with them in our phones or it's so

42:53

ubiquitous now. But at the time

42:55

I was like, just had this desire

42:57

and I didn't

42:59

really think it was to be famous, but I

43:01

just had such a strong

43:06

sense of peace.

43:09

and home when like

43:12

thinking of being on video. I

43:14

was like, God, that feels so

43:18

right, so aligned.

43:20

I didn't have the word aligned when I was 16

43:23

or 17, but I just remember thinking like, I

43:25

feel like I'm fulfilling my destiny

43:28

if I'm on video in some way.

43:30

There was some big thing

43:32

about being seen on video

43:34

and literally You

43:36

know as I've been building my

43:38

own business over the years or whatever

43:41

whenever I hit a pit of

43:43

whatever the issue was, I

43:46

would just turn on zoom and

43:48

start recording just for myself,

43:51

and I literally felt like I went to heaven.

43:53

I'm just, just to talk, just to be seen.

43:55

I didn't share the video with anybody, but I'm just like,

43:58

thank you so much for joining me today. I'm

44:00

really glad that you're here, and I'm happy to be talking

44:03

with you about this. I needed to see myself,

44:05

apparently. And so it was

44:07

cool that you're talking about the 40 in that

44:09

way. Watching even your energy

44:11

change as you're like having your moment of like,

44:14

thanks for like, I saw this the same

44:16

embodiment that I've seen since I've met you just

44:18

say through zoom as an example of

44:20

why also like

44:22

full circle on explaining it about

44:25

wanting to be seen or wanting to be famous, but putting

44:27

it in how your body interprets it.

44:29

It just wants to know that it is seen in

44:31

its way just, by itself. It

44:33

doesn't mean that being famous in the way that

44:36

our bodies desire it is to be on a stage

44:38

in front of millions of people, but

44:41

I like that particular

44:43

description really resonated with me when I learned about

44:45

40. And I, you know, I read

44:48

them time and time again, one, to remember

44:50

and two, to resonate with people to

44:52

potentially learn about the same

44:54

gift that they've already learned about in

44:57

a different way. So it helps them realize

44:59

that, oh, that this part about me when I was 16

45:01

was like, that was the way that

45:04

I felt so good and that you felt

45:06

like a generator. So

45:08

satisfied and picking up your energy

45:10

of, being juicy and awesome

45:13

because that's just what generators are. Okay.

45:18

I love it so much.

45:21

Okay. Vanessa question three.

45:26

Question three is

45:31

based on my design. What

45:33

can I do to be, the

45:36

healthiest, most vital

45:39

expression of me? I was really

45:42

wondering if you were, sorry to like, just cut

45:44

off the end of your question. I just got so

45:46

excited. I knew you were going to

45:48

ask something about vitality and I was

45:50

like, yes, Go

45:55

full circle. I'm gonna relay

45:57

it to some of my own current life experience

45:59

as being also a generator and feeling

46:02

my energy change

46:06

from doing

46:08

things that

46:11

I thought I loved that gave

46:14

me a certain amount

46:16

of joy and fulfillment

46:19

and satisfaction as to

46:21

relay in all of the generator words.

46:24

Almost 10 years ago to now

46:27

how those things morphed

46:30

and that underlying them all

46:32

was actually an

46:36

essence of shoulding myself and

46:41

that in a very short period

46:43

of time of going and

46:46

doing things that I haven't

46:48

done in a really long time that brought me

46:50

a lot of joy without

46:52

even realizing as a child has.

46:57

Even in the past four

46:59

months brought

47:02

me an inner vitality

47:04

of feeling like I don't have to rush anymore

47:07

for generators that I talk to

47:09

because we are the majority of the population

47:12

or just defined sacral if you're a manifesting

47:14

generator. We're in a big

47:16

hurry. And

47:21

the more that I feel like I'm in a hurry,

47:23

all of these things that we deal with as like

47:25

a species, anxiety, depression,

47:28

the things that like feel like they plague

47:30

us. They eat at our

47:32

vitality, for

47:34

sure. And

47:38

they make me feel scared about the future.

47:40

If I'm not, if I, if I feel

47:42

like I'm not in a rush, I feel scared, like, Oh, what's

47:44

going to happen now? But

47:46

when I cultivate doing

47:48

things that somehow just deeply

47:51

bring me a sense of you're

47:53

good, you don't have to rush. I

47:57

have been less sick, I

48:00

have, which literally

48:02

is linked to let's just say immune system,

48:04

like me being strong and you know,

48:08

the vibes going or that I

48:10

can fight off a cold much

48:12

faster or it doesn't affect me

48:15

as deeply. I

48:17

can still operate at about

48:19

60 to 75%, but

48:22

still doing. A normal

48:24

day of clients, I'll even, do

48:26

light movement, or I'll go to dance class and

48:28

just not work as hard. But

48:32

in a very short period of time, pre

48:34

COVID, when I got sick, I definitely

48:36

got sick. And

48:39

yeah, it depends on, what your body ends up fighting,

48:41

but, it took me a long time to fight back.

48:45

But now that I'm doing more of the things

48:48

that just somehow naturally

48:50

bring this Joy, my

48:52

magnetic charisma, I feel

48:54

like I love life that much more

48:56

to tie in those, some of those gifts. I

48:59

know my vitality has gone up and

49:01

that wasn't through any particular food,

49:04

that wasn't through any particular

49:06

thing, it was just

49:08

me getting back in tune with certain

49:11

things that as a child, as a generator

49:14

just brought me joy that

49:17

I usually didn't notice So

49:22

that's something that has really

49:25

played for me as

49:28

being a generator as well. So

49:30

something for you to potentially play

49:32

with as well, Vanessa, if you haven't already thought

49:34

about it. Other things about

49:36

vitality and just generator.

49:38

I'm like so much satisfaction

49:41

and peace comes over me when I think about

49:46

knowing that we don't have to try

49:48

as hard as generators, I think. Because

49:50

we have. This

49:53

inherent joy of when

49:55

we're giving life force and doing things that

49:57

we like to do. And

50:00

maybe this also ties into being born

50:02

female, like I feel like I gotta try hard

50:05

to show up, to be noticed, all these types

50:07

of, things in my brain. But

50:10

when I'm doing what I'm good at, I actually

50:12

can do less and it turns out better.

50:16

And so then I have more energy, which equals

50:19

to me just a stronger essence

50:22

of being or, having more vitality in

50:24

my system, feeling more alive

50:26

with what I am doing in the moment

50:28

because I'm not forcing or overdoing.

50:33

Definitely an overachiever as a kid,

50:36

let alone where I've seen myself

50:39

in my career. How do those things

50:41

resonate with you so far of just getting back

50:43

to maybe some childlike essence

50:45

and naturally all of a sudden just realizing your body is

50:47

like can fight colds and

50:49

or also not having to try

50:52

as hard? How do those resonate? Yeah,

50:54

very much. They very much

50:56

resonate. Lately, for me,

50:58

what's been coming up under the,

51:00

not trying as hard category is just

51:03

healing my relationship with time.

51:07

Okay, I have a riff for this after you go. All

51:09

right. Yeah, I was just thinking like, when I'm

51:12

done with this recording with you, I'm like,

51:14

I'm going to make a video about healing our relationship

51:16

with time. Yeah, just

51:20

allowing myself to feel the timelessness

51:23

of the moment versus trying

51:25

to squish myself into a linear

51:27

framework, which is really related

51:30

to the shoulds. The sort of conditioned

51:33

structure of how we're supposed to

51:35

run our days. I went out for a

51:37

walk this morning and I was realizing that

51:39

I've never had a

51:42

traditional or like traditional mainstream

51:44

job. ever in

51:46

my entire adult life. I, my

51:49

upbringing in childhood was not

51:51

traditional in any kind of way. And

51:53

yet I find myself sometimes

51:56

squishing myself and trying,

51:58

even though I run my own business, I make

52:00

my own hours, I create my own offerings,

52:03

still trying to function

52:06

within a time scarcity

52:09

model and

52:11

feeling how my Is

52:13

responding to that and

52:17

because I'll feel at peace in my

52:19

mind and even

52:21

relatively calm waters

52:23

with my emotion, but my body

52:26

is feeling this clenching and I'm

52:28

like, or wound

52:30

up feeling. And so I've been checking

52:32

in. I'm like, what is that? I'm like,

52:34

oh, the old paradigm

52:37

of time scarcity and

52:40

being squished by time.

52:42

wants to be released from my

52:44

body. And so I need

52:46

to consciously really at this

52:49

point, at least work at it,

52:51

like a practice work at it, like a discipline

52:53

to just let myself feel

52:56

free from a structure

52:58

that I didn't even create,

53:01

you know, like I didn't even grow up in, or

53:03

I didn't even have a. career

53:05

based on that. And yet I'm

53:07

holding it in my body this

53:10

time scarcity. So to circle

53:12

back to the other point that you said around

53:15

creating vitality through connecting

53:18

with what you did and loved

53:20

as a kid. Dancing

53:23

has not been my career. But

53:25

if you would have asked me when I was a

53:27

kid, what I wanted to do, I

53:30

wanted to be a soul,

53:32

there was a show called soul train and they

53:34

had like this line of people that came

53:36

down that like dance down. I wanted

53:38

to be a soul train dancer. I wanted to be

53:40

a solid gold dancer and I wanted to

53:42

be an in living color dancer.

53:45

Like every show that had like dancers

53:47

on it, that was like. That was

53:49

the ideal vision

53:51

for me. And so I have

53:54

been remembering

53:56

that and dancing every

53:58

morning. Like it's the first thing that I

54:00

will do after I,

54:03

you know, I'll sit like after

54:05

I wake up because I'm just like, Whoa, okay.

54:07

I am still human. I'm still in a body.

54:09

Let me orient to this. Dimension

54:12

of reality and then I get in

54:14

and then I'm like, oh, I've got

54:16

a body and so then I'll just start

54:21

So it's this thing that I loved

54:23

as a kid which sets the tone

54:25

for vitality and it also because

54:28

That tightly wound

54:30

up structuring of time scarcity.

54:33

I've been holding in my body unconsciously

54:36

the dancing and the joy from that

54:39

breaks it. It's like we can break

54:41

that old paradigm modeling within

54:43

us through joy. It

54:46

doesn't have to be a struggle. It doesn't have

54:48

to be this, I've got to process it and

54:51

till the cows come home. It's just, no,

54:53

you could actually break it by dancing.

54:56

You can break it by having this

54:58

joy from childhood. So that's

55:00

what comes up for me as you're

55:02

bringing these points together. So,

55:05

yeah. That was, I was having

55:07

such a hard time not being like your cheerleader in

55:09

the background being like, cheering

55:11

on the open throat, being like, all the mic

55:13

drops is amazing. Yo! So many nuggets

55:15

there I'm going to pull out.

55:18

I still have the perfect nuggets

55:20

in my brain of giving a couple

55:22

more things about this particular to your design

55:25

that riffs on time. And

55:27

just structure that allow

55:29

your system to feel its most

55:32

strong and have

55:34

its vitality flourish.

55:37

So where the sun is,

55:39

when we are born, the

55:42

zodiac sign, where our sun is, is

55:44

the most important energy that

55:46

is prevalent within us. That just wants

55:48

to be expressed. All

55:51

of it wants to be expressed, but that one's a little bit

55:53

more umph. And

55:56

you have number 28, 28

56:00

is literally the gift of

56:02

knowing the right time to

56:05

act. Before

56:10

I was like, she's talking about time. This

56:12

is the best. So

56:14

you bringing forward ideas

56:17

about, in this

56:19

case, because this energy wants to

56:21

express in all ways within your work, how

56:23

you know when to finish dinner right on

56:25

time, like all of the aspects of our

56:27

life. As a human

56:29

experience, you

56:32

helping your clients

56:34

and the world understand

56:36

that we've got enough time, how

56:40

many songs have been written about time? In

56:43

this moment. I don't have any. Oh, closing

56:46

time. Yeah. Okay. I wanted to

56:48

find one in my brain. We got one. Pretty

56:51

good. That, I mean,

56:53

you wanting to express how you understand

56:56

it is what, you know, your energy wants

56:58

to do for the world and

57:00

not being constricted by it, your

57:03

body. To do, to bring in one last

57:05

thing about your design, you have three

57:08

out of your four arrows.

57:11

That surround, so everyone on a human design

57:13

graph has four arrows at the top

57:15

that surround the Ajna and the crown, and

57:19

depending on how many point in which direction

57:21

can also give us an overview of how

57:23

our system relates

57:25

to structure. I

57:28

have three out of four pointed to the right.

57:31

Just like you actually

57:33

in the same way. And that first one

57:35

is right, which is digestion. Second one

57:37

is left, which is environment. And

57:39

then the other two on the other side also point right.

57:42

Our system doesn't want a lot of structure

57:46

as an over. I

57:51

don't like that either. Oh my goodness. If

57:53

you would see my calendar. It's all color

57:55

coded. I'm very, you know, I got everything

57:57

in a place. If I don't see, I have enough, like the

58:00

structure of thinking about how life in air quotes

58:02

should be wrap it all in a

58:04

one. Those should moments

58:08

we're breaking it, Vanessa.

58:10

We've been breaking it since we were here, since we've

58:12

been born and to take us into this new

58:15

paradigm that's already happening. And

58:18

when it operates, even me on

58:20

a weekday schedule, I still have clients that ask

58:22

me, Oh, I thought you always got up at 5. A. M.

58:24

Still. No, that

58:26

was pre pandemic, Fran. Some

58:30

days I do, there's at least one

58:32

day out of the week where potentially I have to wake up at five

58:34

for a particular client and then, the next three days

58:36

are somewhere in the middle of between

58:39

six and eight a. m. and my system feels

58:41

great. It

58:44

doesn't love the 5am all the time.

58:47

So that's was trial and error and

58:51

allowing my system to flow on the structure

58:54

that it wanted to,

58:56

as opposed to trying to fit into

58:58

the structure, I thought I had to.

59:05

That was just blow your brain nugget for

59:07

a period of time. I can see the world,

59:09

the wheels turning. Yeah,

59:12

there's little pieces coming together right

59:14

now. I love that. Okay.

59:17

I now already want to record

59:19

and film another podcast with you

59:23

because you asked me such

59:25

beautiful questions. We went in such great

59:27

directions. I always

59:29

trust that, you know, You bringing

59:31

up the, 40, but then me saying it in a new way

59:34

was like meant to happen for you. And

59:37

then I didn't pre know what that was. Thank

59:40

you so much for joining

59:42

me today, Vanessa, and

59:45

is there anything, I feel like maybe you've got one more nugget

59:47

out of that open throat that might want to be

59:50

said on this podcast. What's

59:52

popping in to say is

59:54

just that I'm really grateful

59:57

that you brought me on and I'm also

59:59

really grateful that. You

1:00:01

are talking about

1:00:04

human design in this way. I

1:00:06

had heard about it many years ago,

1:00:08

and it's such a different language

1:00:11

that it really needs many

1:00:14

different translators to

1:00:16

be able to express it in

1:00:18

new ways that can be relatable. I've

1:00:21

since learned about it. And

1:00:23

so I speak enough of the language

1:00:25

to get what you're talking about. But

1:00:28

I really, really

1:00:30

got so much out of

1:00:32

being here today, and I

1:00:34

really love how you articulated it.

1:00:36

And I told you already, I think

1:00:38

this is such a cool idea

1:00:41

with the visual and the way you

1:00:43

let the guests ask questions,

1:00:45

and yeah, it's great. I

1:00:48

want you to do this like every day for everybody.

1:00:50

All I want to do is just talk to people

1:00:52

about their design. Thank you

1:00:55

so much for you're most welcome.

1:00:57

I'm also, the mutual generator love

1:00:59

is like, all it, all I want to do

1:01:01

is just hug you through the screen. My,

1:01:04

brain and energy appreciates you and

1:01:06

feels so grateful right back. So I

1:01:08

always say to myself when I'm knowing

1:01:10

that the vibe is reciprocated, that

1:01:12

it's only the beginning and it's just,

1:01:15

a see you soon moment. I

1:01:17

note for all the astrology things and to say

1:01:19

it on recording, Vanessa and I

1:01:21

have almost identical South

1:01:24

and North nodes. I really

1:01:26

am. So, of our past lives and

1:01:28

where we are currently headed together on the

1:01:30

planet right now is like within

1:01:33

a degree of each other. Hmm.

1:01:35

That's super cool. That

1:01:37

is very cool. Yeah. And

1:01:39

so, to wrap it

1:01:42

all up for the day, here

1:01:45

is a FRAN frequency just

1:01:47

for you.