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Hey friends, we

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are fearless. Welcome

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to the podcast. My name

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is Frances Young, and we are

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here with my eighth

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guest, and

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I'm being particular about my intro today because

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it's a whole mercury retrograde

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moment where I've had some

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fun times trying say what episode

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it is. And before I

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get into this episode

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I want you to already know

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what your human design energy type

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is. And if you do

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know it, fantastic, pull

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out your app, pull out that PDF

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that you got somewhere from someone and

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follow along. See if

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what we're saying resonates with you how

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do I better understand this part of

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my graph that looks like

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it's calculus?

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Or something that just doesn't make sense to you. I'm

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not a math person. And

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if you do not have your

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graph, if you do not know

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what your human design energy

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type is, don't worry,

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I got you. You're gonna go

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to my website, www.

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Dot Frances Young,

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F R A N C E S

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Y O U N G followed

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by C P T

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or catphilliptiger.

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com. And you're going to go to a page,

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your energy, you're

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going to input some information, and

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then you're going to have your human design

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energy type and you

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can follow along. So

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let's get into it. My eighth guest

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is a very dear friend of mine, Darya.

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And Darya, how

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did we meet? So

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we met in COVID. It

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was what I would describe as deep COVID,

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and it was a very I

2:08

don't want to say strange, but definitely a difficult time

2:11

in my life. I had

2:13

just moved out on my own

2:16

for the first time. I was

2:18

living downtown. I was starting a new life.

2:21

And I needed help.

2:24

I needed help to feel

2:26

better, to be fit, to

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meet my health goals. I was

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using a platform that my

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employer had generously paid for

2:35

that allowed me to meet practitioners on that

2:37

platform to help me reach my

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wellness goals. I was lucky

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to meet you, Frances, on that

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platform. Platform's called Cyno. And

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we started to work out together.

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First virtually, of course, for a very

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long time. Because that's

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the point in our lives. We were, it was deep cOVID.

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And you had since

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become a dear friend and

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I'm lucky that I've met you there, but that is

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how we met. Yeah. I

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can, and I know it was

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in February of 2021

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and we

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didn't meet in person until

3:18

August of 2021.

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I'm pretty sure because it was my birthday

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and I was like, let's go have some fun.

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Then I met yourself

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and another dear friend of ours in person

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that I'd only met online. Working

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as a personal trainer, you realize you become

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much more than someone's just their

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trainer. You become a little bit of

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a therapist. You're interacting with their energy

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on such a deep level that

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then meeting you in person for

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the first time and knowing you,

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but deeply already, it was like,

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now this heightened version of Darya,

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it got better. Of course it

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did. Of course it did. It

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only got better. Yes. Exactly. It

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only got better. Yeah. So that's how we met.

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I was first Darya's personal

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trainer and then things just blossomed

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from there. That's right. It just kept going

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and going. It just kept going. You

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have seen what I realized today

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that I'll say out loud for the world.

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You have seen my evolution into

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human design. Sure have. Literally

4:21

from the beginning. Yeah. Yeah. I remember when you

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first discovered it, how excited you were. I

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remember that, I was such a Generator

4:28

about it and that was in January of 2022.

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So you'd seen my evolution.

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We had, completely

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changed how you felt in your body

4:37

prior to knowing or me knowing

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that you are, let's say it for

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everyone, a Projector. We have not

4:43

spoken about Projector energy types yet

4:46

on the podcast. I'm super pumped

4:48

We'd made all this change, but then we got to add

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this, next layer of understanding

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what it means to work out as a Projector, what it

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means to move through the world as a Projector.

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Before we get into your three

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questions, I'll redo why

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we're doing this in this moment. You knew about

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human design in a way

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from where you grew up because you're

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not born in Canada and different

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alternative methods

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of understanding human energy

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is very prominent in the Ukraine where

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you're from. It is. Yeah. I

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can't tell you that I knew. I definitely didn't

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know much about human design. I still don't. But

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the idea of understanding

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yourself through energy and through

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astrology and the different energy types

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I have heard. My mom has told me about it.

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I knew once you start talking to me

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about it, I knew I was Projector, and

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my sister is a Manifestor. But it definitely,

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in Eastern Europe and in Ukraine in particular

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these modalities and these ways of understanding

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each other, ourselves are probably more popular

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and more commonplace than here.

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Totally. I started saying all of what

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at the time to me, this makes sense.

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And Darya is yeah. I

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was like, okay, amazing. I love that

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you're already hopping on board as much as I'm, learning

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in the moment. Again, you've seen my whole evolution

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and now I have a podcast about it.

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And now I'm on it. And now I know

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like it's, awesome and

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wild. So the

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basis the, this fearless life podcast

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is I invite the people

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that are near and dear or the people that I also

6:20

just jive with to learn

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more about their design in a very

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candid, very warm. We're in my

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home on my couch. We have

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tea. I've got slippers

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on. Darya's like relaxed into her

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armchair of, projector analyzing

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moments. We do it in a way where

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it doesn't feel like you have

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to overthink what it

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means to learn your energy type

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because we've already been doing it

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since birth. And

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I just want the world slash

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my humans to understand themselves

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in a deeper way and

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a way that makes them feel empowered

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to live their life the way that

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they're designed to already.

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So that's why we're here. So thank

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you for accepting the invitation,

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which maybe we'll even, I'm only laughing

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because for those people out there that don't know

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what the strategy is for a projector,

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it's called, waiting for the invitation.

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Yeah, I couldn't wait to say that. First

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of all, though, I always draw

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my guests graph.

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So I have Darya's. Trying

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to lift without,

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we'll just say it because yes, I have a ring light

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here. We

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have to acknowledge it just so we look pretty,

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but this is Darya's human

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design graph drawn. This

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is her Graph this is the

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weird lines and chakra moment

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and I had a lot of fun drawing yours

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because I put on different colors today and Yeah.

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It looks very different from all the other ones we've had

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on the podcast as well. That's just going to

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live in front. Don't fall over. I

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feel like it's going to fall at some point. We'll see

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what happens. Okay. Darya, you're,

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you get to ask me three questions. I don't

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know what they are today, so it's exciting.

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All right. So I did prepare three questions,

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but I actually, might switch things up as you were talking.

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It made me think of so you training

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me, and working with me, how once

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you've learned about human design and

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you've learned about my energy type,

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how did you? What

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did you change? What strategies did you use?

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Or how did you, because I,

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for me, it seemed fluid, right? It's

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just a fluid evolution of how we work together.

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I don't know that I could really pinpoint,

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but I certainly over time continue to

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gain more and more value from our workouts.

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So I wonder what did you do differently

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and why? This is a great question

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because this is ultimately where

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my niche is in human design of.

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Coming into it from the fitness background

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and already. Feeling

9:03

quite intuitive into what somebody may

9:05

need in one particular session, regardless

9:07

of their goals as a nugget to

9:09

one side as to what I have in the

9:11

back of my head and how I've just

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always intuitively worked with somebody.

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I used to. This

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will feel like a story to take a tangent into your

9:22

question. So don't worry. I

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used to really dislike writing

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out programs for clients for per

9:28

session, because back

9:30

in the day when I was getting comfortable with it close

9:33

to 10 years ago, it would sometimes take me like

9:35

30 minutes to write a program because

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I'm worried about, Oh, we need to lift this much

9:39

today because we want to get to this goal at

9:41

this time. My brain was overthinking it. Then,

9:45

a person walks in and they're injured that day

9:47

or they have a headache that day. And I'm like I got to learn

9:49

how to fucking adapt. I got to adapt

9:52

and shit. Maybe we're not going to make it

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to their goal on X. Life

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gives us roadblocks just

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in the way that a session might. Over

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time I tried to release that conditioning

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of, I need to be perfectly ready. for

10:07

the moment of a session. Once

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I better understood how

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energy types out of the five,

10:17

how they respond, in the moment

10:19

in a workout, let

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alone over the course of a week

10:25

a month, in

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your case for being a Projector, I

10:30

better understand that for yourself,

10:34

not necessarily. A

10:38

slow vibe, but I

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build your intensity over the course of a workout

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Projectors love to understand

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why they're doing something. Whatever

10:50

it is, especially also in a workout and

10:52

how they're moving their body. So

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with you, I know that I like to use

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a little bit more descriptive language of let's

10:59

take a breath here. Whereas

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to, if I were to train a Manifestor

11:03

or a Generator. Sometimes

11:07

I'm just trying to get them fired up. Sometimes

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I'm just trying to like, be really excited

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in the moment or their energy is making me

11:13

hype up and I'm vibing with a song and then

11:15

I, go all ham in my

11:17

excitedness. You've seen that come out of me

11:19

like in this moment. I'm like, yeah, sacral. So

11:22

I'll draw that out. Just

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happens with me sooner. Whereas

11:27

a Projector, I do this like nice build.

11:30

I've noticed. So I

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always have that in the back of my head for

11:34

you Projectors,

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I know I've mentioned this to you,

11:39

as the reminder that Projectors

11:41

have a slower lymphatic system

11:44

in comparison to other energy types and not

11:46

necessarily is it

11:49

slow in a negative way. It just

11:51

means that fluid throughout your body

11:54

moves at a different pace than mine

11:56

does. It's not even related

11:58

to metabolism. It's different. That

12:02

can just feel like it takes some time to get

12:04

going in a workout. So again, another

12:06

reason why I build yours in

12:08

a different way. The other day, I was like, Hey,

12:10

Darya, let's do a dance party. We hadn't done that in a long

12:13

time. I knew that needed to peak your energy. We

12:15

were a little, both of us were a little on the low side

12:19

it allows me to

12:22

help me remove my own conditioning

12:25

of I'm

12:27

worried what to program, but

12:29

I pick up a better what do we need to

12:31

do by knowing

12:34

your energy type and simple things,

12:36

the lymphatic, that I want

12:38

to build your energy, I

12:45

know that my particular energy

12:47

type is a Generator. Generators

12:50

have a defined sacral.

12:54

That really helps a non

12:56

sacral being such as yourself and

12:59

that I know that also throughout

13:01

the session will help build you and

13:04

if we're on a day and I'm thinking that okay,

13:06

Darya's done X amount of movement every day,

13:08

anywhere else in the week. She's done a spin

13:10

class. She goes on walks daily

13:13

that there's going

13:15

to be a moment mid workout where

13:17

I really want to see how much I can push

13:19

her. But, I also know that

13:21

my sacral is going to help you do that.

13:25

I don't overthink when I choose to now

13:27

give you the push or say, let's lift a little

13:30

more and I'm going to just, here we go.

13:32

Yeah. It makes me.

13:35

Think less and

13:39

interpret the moment of how to train

13:41

you better. Now I'll ask you a question, how

13:43

our sessions feel or just like where

13:45

your body and progression has

13:47

felt like, because we've been training

13:50

for, this is going into our third year

13:52

together. How does it feel now?

13:54

I think especially as I hear

13:57

you talk about it, I think I've definitely

13:59

noticed that

14:02

not, not all workouts are

14:04

the same and not that they ever would be, but I

14:06

feel like this idea

14:08

of not always pushing and sometimes

14:10

having a workout just so that it perks

14:12

me up essentially, and not necessarily pushing

14:15

the weights or, reps

14:17

or whatever we're trying to do. Is

14:19

very apparent that's

14:21

how we're doing it. I think, when we talked

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about this before as well, is this idea of

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recovery for me needing

14:28

to maybe take longer than

14:31

what my brain would like and

14:33

what I'm used to. Otherwise, I'm a very

14:36

active, productive person. And I have

14:39

this idea of how long something should take for

14:41

me to recover. It's rarely,

14:44

with the time it takes me to recover, whether that's

14:47

recover from stress or recover from exercise

14:49

or recover from illness, especially it

14:52

always takes longer. I

14:54

guess to go back to what you've asked me, I've,

14:56

I think the idea of exercising

14:59

and training a little bit less on some

15:01

days has been, good,

15:03

has helped my energy levels. I think

15:05

that probably that shift happened more

15:08

since you've started working

15:10

with human design and energy types

15:12

in mind when training.

15:15

And you saying

15:17

the note, this is perfect for my brain to jump

15:19

in. Always the worry

15:22

for the client, potential

15:25

end, as well as the trainer is,

15:27

Oh, I need to keep my

15:29

routine consistent in order to

15:31

make progress. I think we have made

15:34

more progress since knowing that you're a Projector

15:37

as an overall in your

15:39

life experience. Even though

15:42

yes, recovering from just a simple

15:44

cold can sometimes feel like

15:46

the bitch of, okay, why is this taking

15:48

so long? Your ability to recover

15:51

and get back into what feels like

15:53

you're heavier and stronger workouts. I

15:55

don't feel like we're peaking and valuing anymore.

15:58

I feel like it's always like this. Yeah.

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I can get back in even

16:02

if I'm still recovering and I think that's another thing

16:04

too, right? We can have a workout that's just

16:07

appropriate for that time. And yes, my

16:09

recovery takes longer and yes, I have been sick

16:11

quite a bit in the last year in particular, but

16:13

that recovery. It's taking longer,

16:15

but we can still do things within it. And

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then when we're back. I'm not building up from

16:20

what used to feel like scratch. Yeah.

16:22

And that's been really rewarding because

16:25

I feel like these are, permanent

16:27

gains, y'all permanent gain, I

16:30

feel that so strongly as a yes in

16:32

my gut in this moment of being like, yeah,

16:34

I fully know that has happened for Darya. That

16:36

was one of the biggest things in our first

16:38

year of training that I was like, shit,

16:42

how do I help Darya in this way? This is,

16:44

I feel the only thing that

16:46

is getting in our way of how maybe how

16:48

her brain and her body is an energetically

16:50

thinking, oh, I got to, I'm starting a ground

16:53

zero, right? And now. That

16:55

has literally only come from me knowing that you're

16:57

a Projector. That's cool.

17:01

Absolutely. Ah and

17:04

I'll mention it because I listened to it today

17:06

on a, on another podcast, Jenna

17:08

Zoe, you are going to listen to this podcast one day.

17:11

You're also a Projector. I love you. I

17:13

listened to you happened to mention something in her episode

17:16

that was about working out and

17:20

Projectors are really good at overdoing

17:22

it and workouts, depending

17:25

if they're in a class, depending on what

17:27

they have previously done in

17:29

,their workout and movement routine

17:31

to put a blanket on. Statement

17:35

and she chooses to go

17:37

just a little bit less than

17:39

feeling oh, yeah, that was a great workout All right,

17:42

just a little bit under than that and

17:45

she's had to figure that out over time, but

17:47

she does that on purpose because the

17:49

following day her body's not oh my

17:51

god. What did I just do? Yeah, her

17:55

projector design is different than yours, but

17:58

the mechanics of the non sacral still apply

18:00

for how she feels in her body and

18:03

how much she can push in a given workout

18:05

on a given day. That is

18:08

life changing to a Projector from

18:10

what I see as also being a sacral

18:12

being and watching you be able to

18:15

evolve and keep going. Like in the past

18:17

month, you've been adding spin

18:20

and your walks And we've still been training

18:22

two to three times a week online

18:24

for 45 minutes. That is

18:26

crushing it with regards to

18:29

physical movement routine, right? Far

18:32

above the, yeah, far, yay,

18:35

far above. I'll put it in air

18:37

quotes, average, or just how somebody,

18:39

when they're getting into a workout routine or

18:41

thinking that they are going to change and

18:43

want to change how they

18:45

move and feel in their body, that's

18:48

a pretty high state. When you're

18:50

doing things most days, pretty,

18:53

feeling pretty active. Yeah. My the

18:55

things, I'm doing now are definitely very different.

18:58

But feeling really good about it. I

19:00

love that for you. Okay.

19:02

I loved that first question. We covered it a little

19:05

bit, but we can go into it, yeah. Like

19:07

how does someone with my

19:09

design manage energy

19:11

levels and recovery? Okay.

19:14

I've mentioned that a Projector is a non

19:16

sacral being, right? You're

19:20

21 percent of the population,

19:22

which is much less than the other ones going

19:24

on. Generators and Manifesting

19:27

Generators are the only two that

19:29

are sacral beings. And

19:32

the sacral center with regards to the

19:34

chakras that are on the graph,

19:36

my hand is currently like tapping the graph

19:38

for those that are watching the

19:42

sacral center, they call it the life force.

19:44

Okay. It's a battery

19:47

that always has energy

19:50

it's very much connected to the sun. It's

19:53

a solar piece of us,

19:56

however it does die out too, so we have

19:58

our own way of dealing with it. But

20:01

what it is very much linked to

20:04

for how a non sacral

20:06

being such as yourself with it being

20:08

white is it is

20:11

giving you energy, but it's giving you desires.

20:14

So when a non sacral energy type,

20:16

which is a Projector, a Manifestor,

20:19

and Reflector is interacting

20:22

with this desire, this constant

20:24

desire battery, it feels

20:27

like it has that because

20:30

any white center on

20:32

a graph is a sponge. Your

20:34

aura and your energy is soaks it up wherever

20:37

it goes, because it's interacting with the majority

20:39

of the world being a sacral

20:42

being so

20:44

a Projector can feel like it's

20:46

got a sacral wherever it goes. But

20:49

when it's on its own, sometimes it feels extra

20:51

depleted because then all of

20:53

a sudden it doesn't have the

20:56

sacral within six feet of it. It's not

20:58

feeding off of someone else's

21:00

energy. Yeah. When a Projector

21:02

or non sacral being is just even

21:04

aware of that, It

21:07

allows them that when they

21:09

are by themselves to really

21:12

let themselves rest,

21:14

feel it's okay

21:16

to feel depleted or to feel

21:18

whatever word you want to use, you

21:20

don't have to even say tired, but let your body

21:23

come to a more

21:25

chilled nervous

21:28

system state, like sink

21:30

into that parasympathetic.

21:33

And really taking time away

21:36

from any sort of device in front of

21:38

your face. Just

21:40

like any energy type Projectors

21:42

also have a hard time doing nothing and

21:45

just having no stimulus going on. When

21:48

you guys have no stimulus in front of you

21:50

or even a book per se,

21:53

you can tell the difference between when

21:55

you've got sacral around you and when you don't

21:58

so that you

22:01

can allow yourself to soak it up

22:03

and feel energized when you're around

22:06

to feel like I've got some height and

22:08

use it, but to know that you

22:10

can rest without it and

22:13

having that in your mind frame of

22:16

how I balance this energy. You

22:19

can use the mind thoughts and

22:21

the energy thoughts within your body choosing

22:25

to say why do I not have energy

22:28

now when I don't have a sacral

22:30

being around me and releasing

22:32

that story? No, it's

22:34

okay for me to be chill right now. Yeah,

22:36

this is the energy. Yeah, just

22:38

different and.

22:42

You don't have to push yourself to do more in

22:44

the moment. If you're just like, this is what I have

22:46

right now. That's also an

22:48

issue with how we think about energy

22:51

levels, wanting more energy, being

22:53

efficient, the way that our world thinks it needs

22:56

to always operate is

22:58

the story around. And

23:01

the conditioning around I need

23:03

to have this much sleep and this is how everyone

23:05

should operate. This is the way that

23:07

our energy levels are supposed to

23:09

be. If you are doing

23:12

all the, Projectors just need more sleep anyways.

23:15

You need more sleep than I do, for sure.

23:18

Like I can function on seven and less.

23:20

Yeah. You need way more than that. That's right. Eight

23:23

to nine for sure. Yeah. Like minimum.

23:25

I know some Projectors that sleep like 11

23:27

hours and they have to every night. And

23:29

that's good. Yeah. But for me

23:32

that overdoes it. There are other places in

23:34

your body though that

23:36

is giving you energy. As

23:38

a Projector, and

23:41

there are four chakras

23:44

out of a graph that they call

23:46

the motor, or energy centers.

23:48

Okay. The sacral center is one of them.

23:51

The one that people can see on this graph right now

23:53

is the orange one. And

23:55

that one is the ego or

23:57

heart center. And

24:00

when that center is colored in, they

24:02

call it defined. That

24:05

energy is always living within you.

24:07

And that's a motor center. It's

24:09

a very powerful one in the ways

24:12

in which if. I

24:15

have this one that then you can start to use

24:17

it in the way that will feel like it literally

24:19

boosts your energy. The

24:22

ego and heart center, I

24:24

love to say a statement as to how you can

24:26

speak to yourself about accessing

24:28

this energy. That is the

24:30

statement, I want. And

24:35

I say it in that way is because.

24:38

Ego, I love

24:40

talking about it in the human design concept, but

24:42

when people initially hear that, there's sometimes

24:44

like some resistance and there's

24:46

lots of mumbo jumbo in the spiritual community.

24:50

Just let alone the world about people

24:52

with big egos. Egos

24:54

are great in human design. It's giving you energy

24:56

on purpose. When we relate it

24:58

to the sentence, I want their,

25:03

I'll ask you just a kind of open ended

25:05

question. Since

25:07

you were a child, did you notice if

25:10

you really wanted something like,

25:12

I want this chocolate bar. I want

25:14

to go to the park. I want

25:16

on whatever given day. Feeling

25:19

into the, I want, and

25:21

actually doing that want. Can

25:24

you think that it has given you energy

25:26

or motivation to go do the want?

25:29

Yeah, for sure. Cool. Yeah.

25:32

And do it like right away. Yeah.

25:36

That's awesome. Yeah. So anytime

25:38

that you're like, yep, I want to do this today.

25:41

That is your body and defined

25:43

ego and heart being like let's go do this,

25:46

right? I want to do this. So I'm going

25:48

to do it. Let's go. And

25:52

it's very powerful to be around a

25:54

defined ego. I don't have one. There

25:57

are ways that for me that I'll pick up on,

25:59

those things, from you today also.

26:01

Which is cool. Then because

26:03

I know your graph well from drawing

26:05

it and looking at it today, that

26:08

is the only of the four motor

26:10

centers that you actually have

26:12

lit up or defined.

26:15

The other three are

26:17

the sacral, the solar plexus,

26:20

which is the emotional center, and then

26:22

the other one is the root center, which

26:24

is the very bottom square

26:27

on the bottom of the graph. First

26:29

mention a couple notes about root center

26:32

and why it is and

26:35

how it plays on a Projector's energy

26:37

if it is white in particular

26:41

is that for also

26:43

not having the sacral lit up With

26:47

regards to physically what's going on in our body,

26:50

our root chakra is connected to our

26:52

adrenal glands and

26:54

our adrenal glands are a

26:56

part of a greater system that

26:59

help us in a fight or flight,

27:01

a push moment where

27:04

we need to get some extra oomph for

27:08

whatever, if it is white

27:11

on anyone's graph, but let alone a Projector,

27:13

you are taking in pressure and

27:16

force from the world and

27:20

can amplify it. That's what the white centers

27:22

do. Again, they're sponges. They soak

27:24

it up and they make it make us feel like

27:26

we need to do and we need to go

27:29

and they're propelling us. Then

27:31

without, external pressure

27:34

or external stimulus, we

27:36

feel tired, right? I have

27:38

an open root also, so there

27:40

are very much moments where I cannot

27:42

push, even though I'm fucking

27:44

Energizer Bunny when I know

27:47

I'm doing things I love. Another

27:50

reason why it can feel like your energy goes

27:52

up and down is because that pressure one

27:54

is white for you, the root

27:56

center. But.

27:59

Just because you have three out

28:01

of the four motor

28:03

and energy centers that are white, you

28:06

are one of the most energetic

28:08

Projectors. I know energy, like

28:11

Projectors have just as much energy as others.

28:14

It just, it wants to operate

28:16

at a different speed. Yeah. Different

28:18

frequency. Totally. I

28:20

think I do think of

28:22

myself as an energetic person, but there's definitely

28:26

I think understanding my human design

28:28

has helped me release the

28:31

anxiety around being

28:33

so energetic. I don't know if that makes any sense

28:35

and to not always

28:38

be energetic and

28:40

allow myself to, rest

28:42

and be maybe a little bit slower

28:45

at times. It's still probably looks,

28:47

not that way but definitely for me,

28:50

And trying to figure out what

28:53

is actually. What I wanna do at any

28:55

given time and what, or what is the state that

28:57

feels right and listening to myself

28:59

more and giving myself permission to do that

29:02

for me as well in, in the same,

29:07

literally in the same context. It

29:10

is really what human design is for

29:12

giving us permission, giving us the

29:14

right, in this day and age where

29:17

I was having a conversation with someone yesterday who's

29:20

a Generator and

29:22

a very different design from myself, very different

29:24

design from yours. We

29:26

were realizing

29:30

just how much, let's

29:32

the, both you and I are

29:34

in a millennial generation for when

29:37

our birth years, the spice girl generation.

29:39

So that I'd like to call it going forward. Thank you.

29:41

Yes. Maybe

29:44

on the back end, I'll somehow edit in a

29:46

spice girls moment. Yes. Love

29:49

that Darya. There's, I feel

29:51

like truly three levels.

29:55

My point will make sense when I get there and

29:59

that there's the beginning Millennials

30:01

of early 80s 82

30:04

let's put them in there 82 to

30:06

say 89 and

30:09

there are a bunch of individuals in

30:12

that stage they

30:14

were the first ones that were like fuck it to the

30:16

system I don't like this programming.

30:19

I'm gonna do something in my own way, right

30:21

and that's, for

30:24

me, when I look at some of those individuals

30:26

at least from a,

30:29

let's figure out how to be productive,

30:31

be my own millionaire, the entrepreneurial,

30:33

revolution type of self

30:35

help that came out, there

30:38

was a big boom of

30:41

that going around and then

30:43

there's like the mid millennials between,

30:46

89, 90 to It's even say

30:48

93. A shorter moment, cause I'm in that

30:50

bracket where we watched

30:53

the earlier millennials and all of the content

30:55

that they started producing and

30:58

we're like, okay, let's follow them because

31:01

it's working for them. And I was

31:03

using the example on this call the other day

31:05

of the book by Mark Manson

31:09

and it's called The Subtle Art of

31:11

Not Giving a Fuck. That

31:13

one was a game changer for me of being

31:15

like, yeah, I'm going to If it's not a fuck

31:17

yes, it's a fuck no. And

31:20

that's a Generator anthem, at least for Generators

31:23

out there, because that's speaking to our

31:25

sacral and things are very

31:27

black and white for us. But lots of people

31:29

can identify with that statement regardless

31:32

of energy type. But

31:34

then there was a moment for me in the past,

31:37

I would say let's 2019

31:40

and early COVID to say 2021.

31:43

Where even that statement wasn't working for me

31:45

anymore of like how I can relate

31:47

to just going about

31:50

my day and going about

31:54

strategy for business and this and

31:56

now what should I, like all of the other conditionings and

31:59

then there's like the later half of the millennials,

32:01

that third moment of 94

32:05

to 97 and those guys, the

32:07

woman that I was speaking to was 99, 1995.

32:12

They are even more tapped

32:15

into how

32:17

they've watched the early end of the

32:19

millennials start to deal with learning

32:22

about their bodies. For them

32:25

learning about how to release

32:27

traumas, how to just have self

32:30

awareness in their own

32:32

practices that

32:36

is giving them even more of the power

32:38

of realizing now that human design

32:41

has become it and is

32:43

becoming larger and larger, because

32:45

who knows where it's going to be in another year from

32:47

now is

32:51

that. The early millennials

32:53

had it right to say, fuck it to the system.

32:57

But now we've built a system

33:00

on saying, fuck it to the system. And

33:02

even that doesn't work. So

33:05

thank God human design is here's you

33:08

use your system. Yeah. Now

33:11

we don't have to listen to anything else in air

33:13

quotes. There are still, there's still laws

33:16

in society, but

33:18

we can work within it to just let our body

33:21

carry out the divine experience

33:24

of being human. Being a human. That

33:27

was a long rant for me. Sorry, but I was feeling

33:29

passionate about that

33:32

experience of the past week for myself because

33:36

we can think so much about our design

33:38

once we learn about it. And as we get curious

33:40

about it and then you can overthink

33:42

it. Like we do

33:45

everything for sure. For

33:47

sure. Like we do everything.

33:50

But when it comes down to just honoring

33:53

our energy level, that's

33:55

probably all you need to like work on with knowing

33:57

your design and that's it. I

33:59

don't even know what I'm working on in my design right now.

34:02

I'm thinking about it less for

34:06

me being the nerd about human

34:09

design. Do you feel like with

34:11

me explaining the four energy centers,

34:14

does it feel a little more resonant of how

34:16

you have felt you've been able to decondition

34:18

from it's okay that my energy

34:20

is here. Yeah, for sure. For

34:22

sure. Cool. And use

34:24

that ego. Use that. I

34:27

want. Yeah. Sometimes

34:31

always saying less is more. All right,

34:33

Darya. Question two. Talk

34:35

to me about this feels like an

34:37

interview and I have done many of them

34:39

for my professional career, which is very separate

34:41

from these pursuits. But this

34:44

is a, almost sounds like a beginning of a behavioral

34:47

interview question, but I digress. Talk

34:49

to me about the non emotional. In

34:51

my design. What does that mean? Is

34:54

that a Projector situation

34:56

or not? And and I think that's one of

34:58

those that it's probably not just me, but when

35:00

you read in a chart, you're like non emotional, I

35:02

have so many emotions. What

35:04

does that mean? And how is that essentially

35:07

a useful piece of information to understand? We

35:11

haven't gone deep about non emotionals

35:13

yet on the podcast. This is the moment. Voila. Yes.

35:16

I am also. A non emotional.

35:18

So I'll first

35:21

describe what the non emotional

35:23

is and then we'll also talk about

35:25

specifically non emotional as

35:27

a Projector. Cause that also has a vibe. A

35:29

non emotional can

35:31

be, any of the energy

35:33

types. A Reflector is

35:36

actually always a non emotional. I'll

35:38

mention that can be any

35:40

of the five, but

35:42

what it means specifically from the graph

35:44

standpoint is when you're looking at your graph,

35:47

if your solar plexus, which

35:49

is the emotional center in human design

35:52

is white and not colored

35:54

in, it is not defined.

35:57

That means that your energy

35:59

operates as a non emotional.

36:03

So me being a Generator, I'm a non emotional

36:05

because that's white on mine. You

36:07

are a non emotional. You do not have the sacral,

36:10

but that triangle in this

36:12

case is white. And

36:15

you can still be a non emotional,

36:17

even if you have those little numbers

36:19

coming out, those 64 numbers,

36:22

I have one coming out of mine and

36:24

you do as well. I want to look at it. I'm

36:26

not going to hold it up. I'm pretty sure you have 40.

36:29

No, you, Oh, you have

36:31

22. Amazing. Whenever

36:34

I look at numbers, I'll add a little

36:36

story to this on people's graphs and I haven't

36:38

looked at them in a while. I

36:40

get super excited when I look at what numbers,

36:42

cause I know what all the numbers mean. And I'm like,

36:45

Oh yeah, of course Darya has that one. So

36:47

that is just the description of

36:50

who is the non emotional and

36:53

what non emotional actually means. I

36:55

think it's a sick joke. Personally,

36:58

I can't like, I was so excited to say

37:00

that to the world. Do you have a lot of emotions about it? Sorry,

37:02

I had to. Yes.

37:05

I have a lot of emotions about being

37:07

a non emotional. The reason why I say

37:10

that it is a sick joke is

37:13

because non emotionals again,

37:16

it's a white center. It's

37:18

gonna soak everything up around it, right?

37:21

It's a sponge. It

37:23

means that we are feeling everyone's

37:26

emotions around us, the

37:28

room, the world we

37:31

sometimes carry emotions from a couple

37:33

days ago or

37:35

a month ago Our

37:37

body processes them in a different

37:40

way than if someone

37:42

is an energy and has their

37:44

emotional center filled in.

37:46

They have what is called an emotional

37:48

authority and their

37:50

body experience of

37:52

being an emotional is

37:55

completely different from ours. For

37:58

the non emotional, we're soaking

38:00

in emotions because our

38:02

body is designed to feel them in

38:04

a different way. It wants to

38:06

soak them up. It has the white

38:09

center on purpose. It's not random

38:11

or a coincidence. We were given that design

38:13

on purpose. And

38:17

when we're around anything that

38:19

has an emotional tone, we

38:21

are feeling that emotional tone

38:24

X amount more. If you walk into

38:26

a room and you can tell that someone's A

38:28

little bit pissed, peeved.

38:31

There's like an essence, there's an undertone of something.

38:34

It's like a two to put it on a scale.

38:36

We, our body has already told us

38:38

it's at seven or closer to 10.

38:41

Yeah, we can like oh my God, what's

38:43

wrong. And

38:45

it's picking up on that on purpose. It's

38:48

giving us an experience for a reason. However,

38:51

we as non emotionals sometimes

38:53

over identify with it, or

38:55

our body begins to tell us, and our mind

38:57

begins to tell us that it's ours, even

39:00

though it's not, and that's

39:02

when it can then start to feel like stories

39:04

of, Oh my God, I'm so emotional

39:07

but it also it's giving

39:09

that experience on purpose

39:11

again to say those words, but the

39:14

kind of sick joke about it is that sometimes

39:16

we don't know what is ours. And

39:19

someone else's, yeah, that really

39:21

resonates. And when

39:23

two, I was told that I was like, Oh,

39:26

so that's why I'm so emotional. I'm feeling

39:29

mine. And I'm feeling someone else's

39:31

at the same time, which

39:34

is like a whole trip and a half. When

39:36

I wake up in the morning as

39:38

a non emotional, a lot

39:40

of the time takes me 10 to 15

39:43

minutes, sometimes longer to figure out how

39:45

I'm feeling that day. And

39:48

I used to create stories in my head

39:50

as to why am I not waking

39:52

up happy or why am

39:54

I not waking up just calm,

39:56

cool, and collected. Yeah. The cool

39:59

thing about us being a non emotional

40:01

is that we actually do have the

40:03

ability to be calm, cool,

40:05

and collected whenever we choose because

40:08

of it being white, our

40:10

system. And we say this,

40:13

and I'm going to be particular, is that the way

40:15

that the human design system describes

40:17

emotions is that

40:20

someone who is an emotional, their

40:23

body is actually producing

40:26

an emotional wave and an emotional

40:28

experience. Whereas

40:30

our body as the non

40:32

emotional does not actually

40:35

do that. So

40:38

it allows our body to be in

40:40

air quotes, neutral.

40:42

But then it like gets addicted to

40:44

feeling and then the non emotional

40:47

being like, yeah, I'm actually really fucking emotional

40:51

And you know what really resonates because I've had both

40:53

moments I've had moments of and times in

40:55

my life where for even months at

40:57

a time I would feel so

41:00

emotional and I couldn't even

41:02

sometimes tell you where the fuck it was coming

41:04

from much less what to do with it.

41:06

Then there were times in my life maybe,

41:08

in the last couple of years in particular where I would

41:10

go through periods of time where I was so

41:13

even. I remember doing a meditation,

41:16

a guided meditation, and it was asking me,

41:18

what emotions are you feeling right now? I remember

41:20

being like, why would I be feeling emotions? I'm just here on

41:22

the couch and everything is fine and everything is

41:24

even what emotions? And yet there would be

41:26

times in my life where, Like all of the emotions

41:29

and for no apparent reason and no meditation

41:31

was gonna make it better in that moment. So both

41:33

of those resonate and it's

41:36

interesting To to hear

41:38

you say that through the lens of human design.

41:40

Yeah, we'll

41:42

go on a full story tangent. So

41:45

with this whole waking up and trying

41:47

to figure out, okay, how am I feeling for the day as

41:49

being a Generator personally, many

41:52

people have told me that, Fran, you're just,

41:54

you're always so excited. You are a happy

41:56

person. I've

41:58

had partners in the past where I've woken

42:00

up and I'm not happy or, I don't know where

42:02

my emotional state is, and I can't figure

42:05

it out fast enough.

42:08

I should be able to do that, because I'm self aware.

42:11

I would start to create a story in my head,

42:13

if someone would be, whoever it was,

42:15

partner, somebody, is asking me

42:17

what's wrong, within that

42:20

first period of time of waking up when

42:22

I haven't figured it out yet. I

42:25

would get mad at myself. Why am I not happy?

42:28

How my mood is already

42:30

affecting this other person and I'm supposed

42:32

to be the happy one, right? I

42:34

have come. I

42:36

was about to say I've completely erased that. No,

42:38

I'm human. We're working

42:41

on it, but I have definitely.

42:45

Change that narrative for myself

42:48

and more often than not, now

42:51

I wake up in what I would feel is more

42:53

of a neutral state and within

42:56

15 to 20 minutes, I

42:58

can tell if from a previous

43:00

day, Oh, no, there's a tone here.

43:02

Okay. Watch that, right? I don't have to

43:04

identify with it, but Oh, there's something,

43:07

and maybe that is something that I'm currently

43:10

emotionally processing about my life.

43:12

Personally, my just experience or,

43:15

I felt something from a client on

43:17

a previous day that wasn't something

43:19

that I soaked in that was necessarily negative,

43:22

but maybe I am just feeling for someone else

43:25

or thinking about someone else's life experience

43:28

that I don't have to then

43:30

go down my own self

43:32

confident spirals of

43:34

Fran, now you got to pick it up, cause you got to be on

43:36

top for Darya cause you're going to see her in 15

43:39

minutes. And I'm like. Hang on. Yeah.

43:41

Yeah. We're fine. Yeah. We're fine.

43:43

Yeah. And I can release

43:46

my self judgment. And

43:48

allow myself to tap into this

43:51

is where my tone is. And yes, I'm the non

43:53

emotional that can access

43:55

the calm, cool, and collected state.

43:57

To describe

44:00

the emotional and

44:02

the emotional authority, I mentioned that

44:04

they have a wave and

44:07

we pick up on these waves too. When

44:10

we know people and the other

44:12

designs of people in our life, if

44:14

they are an emotional authority,

44:16

they have the solar plexus colored in,

44:19

observing the emotional and

44:23

how they ebb and flow in their emotions

44:25

is quite beautiful. If

44:27

we know that about them. And then we

44:29

get to release our own stories around

44:32

needing to fix that

44:35

emotional state. Because

44:37

that's also a thing now with people becoming

44:40

more emotionally aware that

44:43

we're still on a path of thinking we need

44:45

to fix everyone's emotions. Whether

44:49

you're the emotional. Or the

44:51

non emotional, but

44:53

we're just here to witness each other. The

44:56

non emotional's body's amplifying

44:58

it, but the emotional has their wave,

45:01

whatever it may be, and

45:03

if we let them experience it without

45:07

judgment, maybe they're going to create the next

45:09

best. Maybe

45:12

they, just need their handheld

45:15

because that's going to not

45:17

make the wave go away, but we

45:19

just, we're going to witness them in it, whatever

45:22

the experience is, whether it's high,

45:24

low, or somewhere in the middle, and

45:28

that's really empowering, at

45:30

least for how I look at human

45:32

design to communicate

45:35

about emotions, right? Yeah. I'm

45:40

pretty sure your sister's a non emotional.

45:42

Yeah, she has ego authority. Your sister

45:44

has ego authority. That's cool, we haven't even gone there

45:47

yet. I wonder what, if your parents

45:49

have an emotional authority or not, that would be

45:51

cool. I don't know. We'll do a post

45:53

deep dive on that one. Yeah

45:56

to, now we'll get into Projector

45:59

and non emotional and emotional.

46:01

I'll first describe the fact that my mom is

46:04

actually a Projector. When I

46:06

learned that, Mom, when you listened to

46:08

this, it completely changed my relationship

46:10

of how I saw you. Into the

46:12

best way of understanding, this

46:15

is why my mom analyzes

46:17

things in the way that she does just

46:19

that. And

46:22

she is an emotional Projector. Her

46:25

emotions are helping her decide.

46:27

That's what the emotional authority means for

46:30

someone who has it colored in. And

46:33

her emotional wave or anybody

46:35

that has that colored in is giving

46:38

her Intel on what

46:40

to do and when to do it.

46:42

So actually listen, when people say, don't

46:44

make decisions when you're emotional, human

46:47

design rips that out and says, no, listen

46:51

to your emotions for some people,

46:53

because it's giving you a moment

46:56

to pause. And

46:59

reflect that, okay,

47:01

just come back to me in a day or

47:03

in a few hours if my emotion

47:05

has changed and I'm not as charged or

47:07

it makes me happy to think of doing something,

47:10

then I should decide to do yes or

47:12

whatever decision and

47:17

Projectors need time to process in

47:21

a different way than other energy types

47:24

for the fact that you

47:26

guys have this beautiful way of seeing

47:28

the world. Because whatever

47:31

you guys are so like,

47:34

I just need to understand this thing.

47:37

Whatever it is, you're going to analyze

47:40

it to the 10th degree to be the most

47:42

efficient at doing whatever

47:45

the thing is that you are thinking

47:48

about. Me just saying that, is

47:50

there something that in your life you've thought

47:52

about at what point that you're like, I just really want to get

47:54

good at this so that I can be good at it to do

47:56

it better or more efficiently. I'm

47:58

using that sentence particularly, Oh,

48:01

yeah, I, you know what the example that

48:03

comes to mind was online dating.

48:05

Yo! Cool! I didn't do

48:08

any online dating until I

48:10

was married and I got married quite

48:12

young, which was before the

48:14

apps. I think things like maybe match. Com

48:17

were around, but no one really does that anymore. And

48:20

when I joined the online

48:22

dating world in, 2021,

48:25

I. I became,

48:27

very quickly, I knew everything about the

48:30

apps I took,

48:32

I took all the time to figure out, okay, what is the landscape?

48:34

What I couldn't really do

48:36

the online dating until I figured

48:39

until I became comfortable with what

48:41

are all the apps, what are the advantages of

48:43

one versus the other? Like why would some use

48:45

Hinge and why would someone be on Bumble?

48:48

What are all the different features? Start

48:50

paying attention to how the algorithms were working

48:52

and what was I seeing on those apps. And

48:55

really wanted to figure out how it all

48:57

works before I could even suppose

48:59

relax into even, enjoying dating

49:01

or using the apps. That's

49:03

so cool. It can literally,

49:06

Projectors analyze the things you

49:08

wouldn't necessarily think would be something that someone

49:10

would want to analyze. No one I knew was doing

49:12

that. Yeah. That

49:15

is a Projector moment. Yes. So

49:18

my housemate is a Projector, the

49:20

woman that lives in the house that, we are currently sitting

49:22

in and something

49:25

random that she analyzed that she

49:27

didn't even initially think she would

49:29

be into would be Tik TOK videos

49:32

about certain subjects, but

49:34

yet she does not have her own Tik

49:36

TOK account, but just to help others.

49:38

Yeah. And now you have all this intel about

49:41

dating apps, so you can tell everybody about. Yeah.

49:43

And I did do a fair amount of coaching with some of my friends

49:46

who were in a similar place afterwards. I was like,

49:48

I got you. I got to tell you the things. Just sit

49:50

down and listen. This is what they do. Yes.

49:53

Okay. So that's the, that's a Projector

49:56

in a nutshell. Speaking about them for the first time on the

49:58

podcast, Projectors are the light.

50:00

You are the energy type that is here that

50:02

takes in a whole scenario. Just

50:05

in the way that a Projector on a wall shines

50:07

light and we can see things

50:09

clearer. A

50:11

Projector energy type gets into

50:14

something and then they figure it out

50:17

so that they can give knowledge to others.

50:20

Or just help others be more efficient, including

50:22

themselves. There

50:25

isn't one Projector that I don't know personally

50:27

that isn't like good at 10 million

50:29

different things, but like to the 10th

50:31

degree, right? Yeah. Whereas

50:35

for me, as an example,

50:37

with being a Generator and I think

50:39

I'll joke about it till the end of time of doing

50:41

this podcast, I,

50:44

in a certain way, haphazardly

50:47

went about just making sure that, okay, we

50:49

had the equipment. I knew what I was doing.

50:51

Hit record. Yeah, that's

50:54

it. And

50:56

then, if I were a Projector, I probably

50:58

would've analyzed everything first. It would've taken me

51:00

a lot longer to get going. Sorry. No.

51:03

So yeah, from start to

51:06

first episode airing for me was a

51:08

whole month. Yeah Probably

51:10

a Projector would take maybe they would

51:12

take a month, but everything

51:14

would be perfect when it was launched and for

51:16

me. I'm trial and error like fuck that. Yeah,

51:19

very much me as well as to my

51:21

profile, but we won't go down that moment that's

51:24

Projector vibes. So then Projector

51:26

and non emotional You

51:31

guys definitely want to analyze your emotions,

51:33

you want to figure it out and understand

51:36

it. We'll chat about the, also

51:38

the number that you have out of the 64

51:41

human design gates that is lit up

51:44

in your solar plexus.

51:46

It's number 22. Again,

51:50

Jenna Zoe, I'm using your app because,

51:52

I fucking love it. It's amazing.

51:55

It's the only app I have ever used

51:57

because the rest of them aren't pretty

52:00

and yours is pretty. It's beautiful.

52:03

The way in which, the user

52:05

is able to navigate the app as they've updated

52:08

it, is quite great. When you

52:10

look at your graph, you can also look

52:12

at the description of all of the numbers and

52:15

if I forget or whatever I

52:17

need to do in the moment to bring out my own knowledge,

52:19

I'll be like, Oh yeah, it's this one. 22

52:22

is reaching up towards the throat

52:26

and that can mean

52:28

that sometimes it has a desire to speak. But

52:30

22, when.

52:34

I see any energy and particularly

52:37

in your case Darya, a Projector 22

52:40

has an essence and an energy

52:43

of charisma when they speak, when

52:48

that person is talking, it is eloquent,

52:52

it's got something that makes you want to like

52:54

my energy wants to nuzzle up to you. I'm like, okay,

52:56

what is my energy telling me to do with this? It feels

52:58

cozy. You

53:01

definitely have a very beautiful

53:03

way in which you speak the words

53:05

you choose. I've

53:08

always felt this way about since I've

53:10

known you. Tell me more. I love doing this podcast. All these

53:12

things. My goodness. In

53:15

that too,

53:17

and I'll say, as I continue to describe this feeling

53:19

that I get from you, so this gift is

53:22

particularly from the moment that you are born.

53:25

Any number that is lit up

53:28

or given to us the moment

53:30

that we are born or three months

53:32

prior to birth on our design

53:34

date. A lot of

53:36

the time we don't have to overthink that we have these

53:39

things that are qualities about us that people

53:41

like. So

53:43

to be told that you have a charming

53:45

and charismatic voice isn't something

53:48

necessarily that people say every day, right?

53:50

But if I were to describe Darya

53:52

to somebody and I, yeah, I know that she's a Projector

53:54

and all of these things, I would definitely

53:57

say that, when Darya talks,

53:59

you'll want to listen to her. When

54:02

I think too about your job

54:05

and how I know you as a person, how

54:07

you operate with your friends and your family,

54:09

I feel like you might be the glue to

54:11

a lot of things as to how you speak

54:14

and just how people want to listen to you.

54:17

And you probably having this gift 22

54:19

is a part of that. Who knows? Cool.

54:22

Yeah. People do listen. Most of

54:24

the time, most of

54:27

the time but yeah, 22 and

54:29

how that plays on

54:33

how you talk, say

54:35

to yourself just, and we'll put about

54:37

emotions that they

54:40

come across in a way in which you want

54:43

to be listened to when

54:45

you speak about emotions. And some people talk about

54:47

when they're emotional and it's just feels like they brunt

54:50

them at you. Yep. They

54:52

definitely do not come across that way when

54:54

you speak about yourself and your internal

54:56

emotional experience or when you're talking about,

54:59

I saw this thing happen to this person and it

55:01

was really emotional. It is

55:04

in the solar plexus. It's an emotional

55:06

gate. It has this

55:08

tonal resonance that, that

55:11

particular, if that channel was fully

55:13

colored in, if it was connected to your throat, a

55:16

lot of famous singers,

55:18

or people that we could say in the world

55:21

that have that full channel are

55:23

people that we really listen to So

55:25

having even a piece of it is like yo,

55:28

we listen to that. It's definitely not the singing

55:30

voice piece, but I

55:33

just sing in the shower because that's

55:35

fun. Okay. What else about Projectors

55:38

and emotional? Is there anything that's still

55:40

because we've talked about it for a bit now of what

55:42

it means to be a non emotional. No,

55:45

nothing's really coming up. It feels very thorough.

55:47

Yeah. Most more of the population

55:51

Is an emotional authority And

55:54

i'm just here picking it all up. Yeah

55:56

Another like the more open centers

55:59

we have the more oh my god What is

56:01

mine and what is someone else's we can

56:03

feel? and

56:06

It's okay that we're sensitive It's

56:09

okay that the non emotional feels like they

56:11

don't know what to do to turn off the tap.

56:13

Cool. I love that we went so

56:15

deep for the non emotional. What

56:17

is your third question? Maybe

56:20

a more common one, but what is

56:22

it to have a splenic authority?

56:25

Tell me about that. I haven't. I talked about

56:27

it with a manifestor, but also completely

56:29

different vibe. Because it was a different energy. Yeah.

56:32

It's not too general of a question at all. Splenic

56:35

authority, you can either

56:37

be a Projector or

56:39

a Manifestor. You cannot be

56:41

any of the energy types to have that authority.

56:47

It is, to

56:49

me, a heightened

56:52

version of what

56:54

it feels like for me to have a sacral

56:57

authority or a gut authority. And

57:00

when people say, just listen to your gut,

57:03

now my brain goes immediately,

57:06

okay, what energy type are you? I diebosh the

57:08

statement in my brain. But

57:11

splenic authority is

57:13

meant to be an in the moment,

57:16

you know something and I know we've

57:18

riffed on this when, I first did your

57:20

reading and talked about what it means to have like

57:22

splenic vibe and you said

57:24

a couple instances about life where you can think

57:26

that yes, I've just known sometimes

57:29

in the moment, and I don't know where it came from

57:33

so a splenic authority Of

57:35

either Manifester or Projector will

57:37

have a moment where they are making any

57:39

decision and just know,

57:42

and somehow I like to call it

57:44

a little voice, something will

57:47

ping in your brain or how

57:50

you're drawn to pick something up and you don't

57:52

know why the

57:56

coolest part about our body,

57:58

is that it is the body making the decision

58:02

not the brain, so it is your spleen in your

58:04

physical body that's doing it and

58:07

we cannot with our logical

58:10

brains and also Darya you have quite a

58:12

logical one. So on the graph for anybody

58:14

that sees this in this moment. Darya

58:16

has the, crown and the Ajna

58:18

and the throat all colored in. They're all defined.

58:21

It's all energy that's within you constantly.

58:24

You have the most logical

58:26

channels filled in of what

58:28

we can have. This will shock no one.

58:31

Yeah. Darya is very

58:33

logical. I feel like it's a great

58:35

moment to say, to give

58:37

some validity because I am

58:39

still a skeptic about

58:42

this whole thing as much as I believe in it

58:44

wholeheartedly. It's

58:47

just because we don't have enough, of what feels

58:49

like evidence to say

58:51

that yes, if you follow your design, you

58:53

will literally achieve everything you want

58:57

and have the most healthy body

58:59

that we desire But

59:02

I know Darya can be a hard one to crack

59:04

on logical things

59:06

because if it doesn't make sense then I'm not gonna buy

59:08

it. Why would I buy in? Yeah, it's

59:10

legit. I'm a more like Okay,

59:13

I'm going to do it anyways, type of person. If

59:16

I felt enough energy from my body, but

59:19

being logical is fucking great. You

59:21

know what works for you. But the fact

59:23

that how, in the ways

59:25

in which I've described human design and that

59:27

we've started to play with it, your

59:29

logical brain is like, Oh yeah, I see

59:31

this, has been, for me,

59:33

a little bit like, fuck yeah, I

59:37

can make the skeptical ones get

59:40

it, but it's okay. I mean, maybe that's

59:42

an inflation of my spiritual, I don't know, my ego,

59:44

I don't know. Listen, if you told me when I

59:46

first, learned about human design or

59:48

more so maybe when you start talking about it more.

59:51

If you told me I was going to be on a podcast with you

59:53

about human design I would have told

59:55

you that you're wrong and that's

59:58

probably not what's going to make sense for me.

1:00:00

I think, listen, I think

1:00:02

you should be chuffed about that. But I think,

1:00:05

the times we talked about splenic

1:00:07

authority is that's what probably

1:00:09

resonated the most. Definitely. First

1:00:12

of all, don't struggle with making decisions.

1:00:14

No, you, I feel like you

1:00:16

were faster than me. Legit.

1:00:20

Yeah. In a great way. My housemate is

1:00:22

also splenic authority. There is something

1:00:24

about splenic authority that is so powerful

1:00:27

and whatever your

1:00:30

authority is, it is the power in your body. Even

1:00:32

though it's not, A motor center,

1:00:35

the spleen is our oldest

1:00:37

awareness center in our bodies. So

1:00:39

no wonder it is so

1:00:41

fast to make a decision because

1:00:44

it's had millions of years to be able to evolve

1:00:46

into this beautiful moment that just, if

1:00:49

you can literally ask your spleen

1:00:52

a question. In this case,

1:00:55

I'll add in the layer of being a

1:00:57

non emotional. In, as

1:00:59

a calm. Cool

1:01:01

and collected state, if you're trying to decide

1:01:04

what you're gonna have for dinner, open up the fridge

1:01:06

you can ask yourself, Hey spleen, what do

1:01:08

I want this or do I want that a yes no

1:01:11

variation of a question? It's gonna

1:01:13

give you ,an answer pretty quick But

1:01:16

when if you are feeling

1:01:18

or you're in an emotional state, is

1:01:21

it harder for you to tap into

1:01:23

this little extra

1:01:25

voice back of your head or this, I

1:01:27

can see you nodding. Yeah, definitely. Yeah.

1:01:30

Ditto. Yeah. We're not actually

1:01:32

designed to, when we are feeling

1:01:35

emotions or we don't know what's ours,

1:01:37

it's harder to tap into our authority,

1:01:40

whatever it is. Let's

1:01:43

go to what graph, what numbers

1:01:45

are in your graph as well? Because

1:01:47

this. I haven't really described

1:01:50

some of the numbers to you in a little while. So, Darya

1:01:52

happens to have four, got

1:01:54

four coming out of your spleen. I love to say

1:01:56

that the channels that are full

1:01:59

lines connected between different

1:02:01

chakras, I say they're

1:02:03

the superpowers. They're the things

1:02:05

that are like energy

1:02:07

within us that. Sometimes

1:02:10

we definitely know if we didn't

1:02:12

know our design that yes, I'm really good at this thing.

1:02:14

Like you knowing you're really logical

1:02:16

and you have two of the most logical

1:02:19

ones in here. I'm like, of course you

1:02:21

knew that already. Your

1:02:23

actual channel that

1:02:25

gives you your spleenic authority

1:02:28

is a channel that I

1:02:31

like to call it the entrepreneurial channel.

1:02:34

It has gift 44 and

1:02:37

26 connecting from the spleen

1:02:39

to your ego of what you want and

1:02:42

what your soul wants in your body. So

1:02:45

26 is the

1:02:47

ability to sell

1:02:49

and to speak to anybody. To

1:02:52

get them on the

1:02:54

same page of what you're talking about. I

1:02:56

say the statement, you can sell ice to an Eskimo

1:02:59

and 44 is

1:03:01

spotting trends. You

1:03:05

being able to pick out the trends in certain apps

1:03:08

or being able to, whatever you can find patterns

1:03:10

anywhere The 44

1:03:12

is coming out of the spleen in

1:03:14

the moment, you're picking up on more

1:03:16

than you can realize. 32

1:03:19

is also one that you have 32

1:03:22

is, when to act in order

1:03:24

for a project, for a

1:03:26

something, for taking something out

1:03:28

of the oven to be perfectly cooked

1:03:31

for it to have success. Sometimes

1:03:34

32 on a different frequency

1:03:37

of how our body and society plays

1:03:39

tricks on us is always

1:03:42

afraid of failing, always afraid

1:03:44

of like deer

1:03:46

in headlights. I don't know when to. Take

1:03:48

it out of the oven because I have to set a million timers

1:03:51

right kind of energy 28

1:03:56

I really like 28 and

1:03:58

I actually I have the opposite

1:04:00

to 28. The timing

1:04:03

of Life as

1:04:06

a whole, you

1:04:09

have the ability to know when this

1:04:12

is when I'm going to go do this trip. This

1:04:15

is when this project will

1:04:18

end as a whole, not worrying about

1:04:20

the success of something. You just know the timing

1:04:22

of life, but

1:04:25

sometimes 28 can also feel like, Oh,

1:04:28

my God, I'm running out of time or

1:04:30

a fear of running out of time. And

1:04:34

then you also have 48.

1:04:37

So many numbers, Frances. I know. And

1:04:40

48 is

1:04:42

quite a magical one with regards to say,

1:04:44

if there are certain gates that have more witchy

1:04:48

or ethereal or

1:04:50

magical qualities to them. 48

1:04:52

is the depth of knowing. There

1:04:55

is a wisdom about 48 also

1:04:57

your profile is a one. I

1:04:59

haven't had on the podcast yet. It's a left incarnation

1:05:02

You come into this life just being so

1:05:06

wise, this will also shock no

1:05:08

one. Yes Definitely

1:05:10

since the time of knowing you Darya. I'm

1:05:12

like Darya's got some wisdom. She

1:05:14

doesn't even know she has but

1:05:17

she knows You know? You're

1:05:19

wonderful. Yes. I love it. You

1:05:22

don't have to try hard about it though. 48

1:05:24

is like an amplification of that.

1:05:27

The statement of the lower

1:05:29

frequency of 48 is

1:05:32

sometimes a worry that, what

1:05:35

I feel naturally about me being

1:05:37

wise, isn't correct.

1:05:39

Like I'm actually not enough. This, it

1:05:41

counteracts itself when it's in its lower

1:05:43

frequency, I've literally

1:05:46

watched it operate in its lower frequency

1:05:48

to someone in my past,

1:05:51

and it's

1:05:54

like a moment where you can see that person getting in their

1:05:56

own way and put, it can put

1:05:58

them in deep spirals and you're, I'm

1:06:00

looking at that person going what? Is going on.

1:06:03

Yeah. That is not them at all. Again,

1:06:06

another gift within your frequency

1:06:08

that's just is,

1:06:11

you don't have to try. It's not one you have to

1:06:13

think more about and

1:06:16

spreading your depth and your wiseness

1:06:20

is something that along

1:06:23

with having that in you isn't also

1:06:25

something that you have to overthink either. People

1:06:27

are just naturally going to come to you because they feel

1:06:29

that wiseness about you. So

1:06:32

when you're particularly

1:06:35

Having like mind thoughts about, okay, what

1:06:37

does it mean to listen to my spleen? Everybody's

1:06:40

spleenic authority does speak to them differently,

1:06:43

but if it's anything to do with patterns,

1:06:46

timing and feeling

1:06:48

like you're a wise sage and people coming

1:06:50

to you or how you think about that in yourself,

1:06:53

there's gonna be like an extra knowing for you

1:06:55

or an extra, superpower

1:06:57

way to, to tap into it. Asking

1:07:01

it yes, no questions, or

1:07:04

the first answer that comes

1:07:06

to your mind of

1:07:08

what is the thought to say, as

1:07:11

opposed to hearing

1:07:15

something go off in your mind.

1:07:17

And then if

1:07:20

your brain starts to create a story

1:07:23

around what went off, you

1:07:26

may have missed what went off.

1:07:28

Yes. Yes. By

1:07:31

me saying that sentence, can you

1:07:33

in yourself feel like, okay,

1:07:35

I've overthought this one, that maybe this was actually

1:07:38

what my body was trying to tell me to do?

1:07:40

Yeah, I can't think of any specific

1:07:43

moments. But the feeling that kind

1:07:45

of what you've just said evoked

1:07:47

it's probably more in romantic

1:07:50

relationships where a,

1:07:52

there's just a lot of overthinking for

1:07:55

me, but that overthinking is

1:07:57

goes against sometimes the initial

1:08:00

feeling or thought that I would

1:08:02

often later come back to.

1:08:05

And. Find to be

1:08:07

true, if that makes sense. Totally.

1:08:09

And in any

1:08:13

given scenario of

1:08:16

romantic relationships, of work,

1:08:18

and when our life is giving us a

1:08:20

moment as a

1:08:22

soul having a human experience, I

1:08:26

play with this concept all the time in my brain and

1:08:28

how I think about my own life, is that our body

1:08:31

will keep giving us, and our soul

1:08:33

will keep giving us the same experience

1:08:35

until, our body

1:08:37

has not learned enough,

1:08:39

but okay, I'm ready for the next way

1:08:41

that I'm going to learn this lesson in a higher

1:08:44

vibration we're

1:08:47

still never getting it wrong, no

1:08:49

matter what. If we've thought

1:08:52

that we've listened to our spleen, when then we know when

1:08:54

we have splenic authority or for me gut, and

1:08:56

were still going to overthink

1:08:58

it. Energy around

1:09:00

us, the universe, our greater soul path

1:09:02

will still put us back on the right path with

1:09:05

whatever decisions we make. I've

1:09:07

definitely tried to remove my

1:09:11

conditioning brain of the program

1:09:13

of now you know this thing, so now you got

1:09:15

to overanalyze, it to get it right.

1:09:17

Are we listening to this plan or are we not listening to

1:09:19

this plan? Shit! Yeah, in

1:09:21

the way we still overthink everything

1:09:25

my body will get

1:09:28

me in the right path when it is meant

1:09:30

to be there, no matter how many times

1:09:32

I have to re keep going down one path

1:09:35

and that's

1:09:37

the magic of being human, but also

1:09:40

feels like the hardest piece of it all.

1:09:42

Do you feel like you have. different

1:09:46

understanding than,

1:09:48

when we first started recording. Definitely.

1:09:51

And definitely more detailed

1:09:53

as well. I have it's actually been a while

1:09:55

since we talked about my design. It just shows up naturally

1:09:58

through our work and conversations, but yeah,

1:10:00

not so much in a dedicated way. I think

1:10:02

it tied it together a little bit more now as

1:10:04

well, because It seems like all

1:10:06

the things I asked about is all connected,

1:10:09

right? It is a design but it brought

1:10:11

it together a little bit more. Cool.

1:10:13

I like that for you. I love to

1:10:15

be honest about

1:10:17

the fact that I still am only two

1:10:19

years into understanding this myself,

1:10:23

for my own personal human experience. I

1:10:26

try to play with it, I try to make it easy.

1:10:29

Just in the way Jenna Zoe says take it back

1:10:31

to your strategy and authority. Our

1:10:33

strategy is how our body interacts with

1:10:35

the world Because

1:10:37

I haven't had a Projector on the podcast

1:10:39

yet, I will say that how I had this joke

1:10:41

at the beginning of waiting for the invitation,

1:10:44

a strategy for a Projector

1:10:47

as to How they interact

1:10:49

with not just any human,

1:10:51

but the way that the world is going to give them

1:10:53

energy back and move their life forwards

1:10:56

is that if they are

1:10:59

pushing and shoving their way through

1:11:02

the world, they are

1:11:04

going to feel bitter. They're going to feel not

1:11:06

appreciated. I know we've spoken about that

1:11:09

and you're like, Oh yeah, that hits home. Because

1:11:12

a Projector's energy gets

1:11:15

good at what they are obsessed

1:11:17

with. And then.

1:11:19

They don't have to overanalyze if someone

1:11:22

asks for a Projector's opinion, gives them

1:11:24

this invitation, then the Projector can

1:11:26

share and things move forwards. It

1:11:29

doesn't mean that a Projector can't

1:11:31

put out resumes or can't tangibly

1:11:33

go on dating apps. But

1:11:36

how energy will

1:11:39

flow back to you is that somebody

1:11:42

needs to appreciate your

1:11:44

energy, wants to feel seen

1:11:46

in order for things and that thing

1:11:48

to be correct for you as

1:11:51

the next step. So that's

1:11:53

what waiting for the invitation means is strategy.

1:11:56

And authority for you, spleenic going back

1:11:58

to those things, honoring

1:12:00

your energy level that day.

1:12:03

If we do those things with knowing our design.

1:12:07

We don't know yet how

1:12:09

awesome our life is going to get

1:12:11

better than this moment right now sitting

1:12:13

on this couch Right this

1:12:16

time last year this house wasn't

1:12:18

even purchased yet This

1:12:21

whole concept of a podcast didn't even exist

1:12:23

to me I just wanted to be

1:12:25

on other people's podcasts and people to hear

1:12:27

me I would not

1:12:29

have conceptualized everything

1:12:31

that is currently where I am and what I am

1:12:33

doing this time last year, but

1:12:36

strategy and authority got me here. Of

1:12:38

course it did. Yeah. Is

1:12:41

there anything else from all

1:12:43

of the things that we've talked about today, Darya, that

1:12:45

you want to ask? No,

1:12:48

pretty tired. It's a

1:12:51

lot for my Projector self. I know. And

1:12:53

to Mercury retrograde, he's got my brain

1:12:55

going. So we're going to

1:12:57

wrap it all up for the day

1:13:00

with a Fran frequency. Also,

1:13:02

Darya, thank you so much

1:13:04

for being on my podcast. My pleasure.

1:13:07

I love you. Okay.

1:13:09

Fran frequency folks. Here it is.

1:13:17

That was a really quiet one.