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Beneath the City

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the mid eighteen hundreds map makers

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were sent all over new york city the

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task was to document the

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entire city with detail unlike

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any other maps of the time the

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report buildings a different colors

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depending on what they're maidens pick

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, brick blue for concrete

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and all of greens for fireproof

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construct

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kindle for things like skylights then

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and allocators some maps

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would tell you whether you whether were cobbled or

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not

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uma decades before this do

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for you destroyed large sections

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of the sea

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more people wanted insurance

2:02

than ever before and insurance companies

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realized that it was too time consuming

2:07

to send each and so to inspect every single

2:09

property the

2:12

be decided these maps would be the answer

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standardized , maps

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of every corner the city city

2:20

a building was made was how many exits

2:22

it at them what it was used for

2:25

these are all things that insurance agents

2:27

could use to assess what kind of premiums

2:31

and now they could figure it out without

2:33

leaving the awesome one

2:36

company in particular the sanborn

2:39

map companies eventually held

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the monopoly over the field and

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published maps for over twelve

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thousand cities thousand towns

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the don't have a decade of the city's grew

2:52

when expanded and a fire codes

2:54

and modern construction methods improved

2:57

fire , maps became

2:59

more expensive dup keep is

3:01

not as important are

3:04

you today just not for

3:06

the original purpose then

3:10

one maps are like away good of what used

3:12

to be there and what might still

3:14

be there that now

3:16

under the ground invisible and

3:18

forgotten

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so the first step is measuring

3:22

out the yard and comparing it to the

3:24

old sam were madison eighteen seventies and

3:27

from there we look at a structure

3:29

of a house itself to figure out if

3:32

it's been changed ah and of what

3:34

has been changed i then we

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stick a probe that goes

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into the ground a little metal probe that

3:40

weekend kind of feel

3:42

how hard or soft ground as

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as the ground those really hard that area more

3:47

move off three or four feet do it again

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until we find the actual and

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then then we started digging ah

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we set up shop or bring out a tarp i

3:57

get ourselves ready and get the whole

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for other and sorry

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going down a third it's all done by hand

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and rope and bucket

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woodard live in baltimore maryland

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and , explores the city from

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underneath underneath searches for

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things buried underground things

4:13

that some people might consider trash

4:16

be a bottle or toy or

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anything that he bought a throw away but it also

4:20

can be coins things i fell on people's pockets

4:23

so it's not it's different than treasure

4:26

hunting how our treasure

4:28

hunting how our you're looking for a specific item like

4:30

you're looking for that gold coin or you know

4:32

know the holy grail or something along those lines

4:35

were is what i'm doing is looking

4:37

for just pieces of are forgotten industries

4:40

ah beer bottle soda bottles i've

4:42

broken played pitchers i even

4:44

toys that gets played with that and eighteen hundreds

4:47

even have been interested in taking things since

4:50

is a little boy he ,

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he's obsessed with indiana jones as a kid

4:55

kid he never really cared about finding something silly

4:57

me silly to

4:59

like the others any

5:02

wanted to learn split any wanted teach him

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about the city that he grew up

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i'm

5:08

i'm be

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one ever found a clear glass

5:26

soda bottles that said heinz hurling and

5:28

company on the front i

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could everything he finds open

5:33

wanted you know more about where came from and

5:36

during the research that i uncovered

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a story about a black man

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named john butler who was

5:43

most likely framed for murder and executed

5:45

for that murder you

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know haven't got there the

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search for the name heinz hurling from the front

5:52

of the bottle in the baltimore sons archives

5:55

some articles popped up and eighteen eighties eighty nine

5:57

is which is about the time that the company existed and

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i went out of business but there is a

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couple more articles that showed up in the nineteen

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hundreds and is the really unique name

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that and made everything he could find and

6:09

piece together with together owner of the bottle

6:11

company son was listed among

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the names of people scheduled to attend and

6:15

executions that the baltimore city jail

6:18

and from there kind of know more about the execution

6:20

and why this guy was being executed

6:25

i'm learning that the man had been executed with

6:27

a black man named john butler the

6:31

rapid on the evening of october twenty seventh

6:33

nineteen hundred john's lifeless

6:35

any about there was found dead on

6:38

baird street in downtown baltimore

6:41

about iraq was sound nearby which

6:43

the police believed was the murder weapon

6:48

no one had witnessed the murder the

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man who discovered the body told the police

6:53

did eighteen a tall black man standing over the

6:55

woman the several

6:57

hours john butler was arrested

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the retired and found guilty first degree murder

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and sentenced to death on

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august twenty third nineteen a one john

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but died by hanging before

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he died he said i

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haven't anything to say except

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that i'm innocent the

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practice of the time with for people to be called

7:23

to witness executions a

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man named john are heinz killing we've

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become a newspaper as one of the twenty

7:30

witnesses summoned to be present

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john butler had been active in politics

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at a time when black men and women and

7:38

the more we're fighting in courts are equal

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treatment under the law

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during the president of a local black republican

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club

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organizing meetings and speaking events

7:49

the making hundred the baltimore sun reported

7:52

idiot quotes much influence

7:56

reading about all of

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this more than hundred years later

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john butler could have been

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framed for political reasons

8:07

the not be all of these hidden stories

8:09

you know it every new

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there's potentially had and story is

8:13

that are you think about the work yeah but

8:15

it's it's not so much about the artifact itself is

8:17

about the store that the artifact intel or

8:19

and knowing are learning what

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this might have been related and

8:31

why both more such a good what

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what is it that special about that baltimore

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or when you look at other large cities that are

8:38

historic like new york or dc i've

8:41

already had so much redevelopment happen ah

8:43

whereas baltimore is just starting to do that now

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so a lot of the old history

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especially in the ground is so preserved and

8:50

save for people to come say

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i didn't woodard says he doesn't at least

8:55

a hundred if not two hundred the backyards

8:57

in baltimore that

8:59

for that getting permission to dig is

9:01

are these are you ever just knocking on

9:04

some home hundred door because you think they're an

9:06

interesting location or are they are

9:08

they all coming to you or it's a mixture

9:10

of both i will knock on doors

9:13

or and and work a whole neighborhood and see

9:15

and to explain to them what i'm doing i

9:17

often bring like a couple of items with me to show

9:19

them hey this is what we're looking for this is

9:21

what we're trying to do and explain a whole process

9:24

ah and tell him that hey we've also

9:26

put your name your backyard back

9:28

our was a for arm and not damage

9:30

or anything but then i also get a lot of people reach

9:32

out to me on instagram saying can become that

9:34

china my backyard and a semi their address and us

9:36

are talking to them do the research

9:38

the next you know rover their couple weeks later when

9:41

you

9:41

driving around the city now or any like

9:43

see a corner or see a house do

9:45

think after doing this work oh god

9:48

i wish

9:48

in their backyard or yeah it's

9:51

me drivers of the city is city super

9:53

slow i'm in thankfully we have traffic here so

9:55

i can cottages look around as i'm sitting at a red

9:57

lights ah and if lights see

9:59

and act of

9:59

right i'll pull over just go talk to the people

10:02

right away and in i'll explain to them what i do

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and usually like a combat lynette

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yeah i will lottery was out there are seen on a regular basis

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hey folks check your tickets somebody's got sixteen

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million bucks and it was sorta this mystery

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there were three little fingerprints

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then we can find a whoever

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broke into my grandmother's house

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little italy is near the water just

12:25

a few blocks from the inner harbor the

12:28

address seven woodard gave us led us to a quiet

12:31

block lined with narrow brick and

12:33

stuff rowhouses there's

12:35

little pizza restaurant at the end of the block called

12:37

seventeen us haven't

12:40

told us to the house is being renovated and

12:43

that the front door would be unlocked and

12:45

that we should just let ourselves in and meet

12:47

him in the backyard when

12:50

we got here it was clear as an had

12:52

already been working for a while he

12:54

, wearing tall rubber boots and

12:56

six gardening gloves and was covered in dirt

12:59

it was new and church bells are

13:01

ringing the backyard

13:03

with smallpox just a little peeved patio

13:06

area with an overgrown gardens

13:08

surrounded by a tall lot of sense

13:12

and right in the middle was middle was pile

13:14

of dirt

13:16

know about with a home the ground

13:19

and someone with chest seat standing

13:20

anyway

13:23

you do is what's happening

13:24

the are currently working in a

13:26

pretty odd look for that of would line for the

13:29

are probably share between this house in the next

13:31

house over ah and we're now trying

13:33

to find the edges of the pretty awesome

13:35

man is currently digging down through all

13:37

the fill that was tossed into the privy

13:40

are when they closed off and early nineteen hundreds

13:42

when this area gop funding

13:45

what do you mean what is

13:47

the is it a toilet yeah

13:49

yeah the previous the old out how saw where they

13:52

go to the bathroom farm prior to having indoor

13:54

plumbing and they also use as

13:56

a trashcan so anything

13:58

over the household item on

13:59

can be in a burned would go in the

14:02

privy to notice toss is models

14:04

dishes are food scraps own

14:06

say like that and

14:09

curiosity the previous work cleaned out ah

14:11

by preppy differs by now overtime

14:13

at the house was in was really weird space

14:16

where they think it's the backyard is easy or

14:18

the homeowner didn't want them tracking hot

14:20

pockets of me as he misplaced through the

14:22

house i they would just leave it

14:24

in there until powered up and then cap off

14:27

cap privy to make a new one somewhere else even

14:31

at the pretty dippers wouldn't always

14:33

empty them completely pretty

14:36

decorator also called honey diapers or night

14:38

soil man read some every

14:40

the few feet of waste and crash at the very

14:42

bottom eventually

14:45

when has this got indoor plumbing the

14:47

pretties would just be sealed off and

14:49

forgotten about

14:51

so how deep you for

14:54

your kindness i mean the

14:56

whole big enough to summons basically in it

14:58

has the how much there will you go down

15:01

are all previous abandons exercise

15:03

and what neighborhood your and ah this one we

15:05

expect to get out about eight feet because that's not

15:07

standard for this area i and then

15:09

once we done before have been up to thirty five feet

15:12

deep and that's all done by have to

15:15

, five one last summer summer

15:17

a lot of health and still talk

15:20

around twenty hours spent over two days

15:23

they were headlamp

15:25

you doing good in almost every weekend the

15:28

usual routine a sister the sanborn

15:30

matt the identify what

15:33

buildings have been around since the eighteen hundreds

15:36

and probably had probably pretty at one point then

15:40

he uses the map to figure out where

15:42

exactly the property lines were

15:45

so check to see if there's been any extensions

15:48

added onto the house

15:50

the man they have to take a few tests

15:54

and an a today we got it right

15:56

on the third try

15:58

how did you how did you know that you

15:59

the right spot me what what did you see here

16:02

in this whole that made you think okay we sound i'm

16:04

not so much be ah

16:07

seeing , whole it's when you put a probe into the ground

16:10

the ground is like super soft ah and

16:12

if it's still with ash and other debris you'll

16:14

hear that when using the probe sliding into the ground

16:17

on vs like natural soil that's is hard

16:19

contact place and there's a lot of

16:21

of it's it's a lot harder question

16:24

the new the run the right place when right place signing

16:26

fragments of old glass soda bottles

16:30

underneath that layer is usually a

16:32

the cap and more artifacts

16:35

didn't like pipes plates and old

16:37

toys

16:40

mm friend matt palmer is the one

16:42

digging the whole today i now

16:44

it's deep enough that his head is pretty

16:46

much level with the ground using

16:50

a shovel some a large bucket with

16:52

dirt and ash and brick fragments

16:55

and , evan pulls the bucket which

16:57

is attached to a rope backup

16:59

of us grasp what it's it's

17:03

to listen to that over of insists

17:05

if you don't forget it's a mess

17:07

with it's as if the

17:10

mm have a bucket of a little

17:12

bit and see if they sound a

17:15

pile of dirt on the patio is now

17:17

much taller than when we first arrived

17:20

you have to find any think what

17:24

would you specify

17:25

there are very we've already found

17:27

actually couple pieces of models that we haven't seen

17:29

before arms and they're on

17:31

earth i guess more rare sight armed

17:34

but i mean this is every whole different just never

17:36

known to really get down there are what

17:38

the house as the house rich

17:40

where they ported a have enough money to buy a lot of things

17:42

or were they to try to save as much as they could

17:45

on so that's one of these kind of tell

17:47

by the trash or to pull out at

17:50

, point we've watched them does have a season

17:53

and the stunts so you can look at

17:55

like if the homeowner are

17:58

the family had the lot of me

17:59

they could be a lot of animals are you knew

18:02

the variable afford to go to the market get animals

18:04

ah miss a drink a lot of beer i

18:07

got a how much for the quantity

18:09

of trash and then the quality of

18:11

mine what type of trash it is that you find a soda bottle

18:13

that's from us wanna manufacture you

18:15

know that air paying money for that com

18:17

vs something that just like a couple

18:19

of small little ,

18:21

medicines ice bottles things like that for

18:25

if they smoke on types are

18:27

also fairer literate com you'd find

18:30

our inkwell things like that and so

18:32

you can tell you how to write her reply to read

18:35

once when digging in the seat and hill neighborhood

18:37

of baltimore haven't found a lot of friends

18:39

artifacts

18:40

the glass bottles that held perfumes

18:43

so madison

18:46

he started looking into it and learn the during

18:48

the french revolution in the late eighteenth century

18:51

i'm on french people fled to the u s

18:54

many of them settled in baltimore

18:57

what's what's your favorite thing he's ever

18:59

done that oh that's that's

19:01

one i i think my favorite items

19:03

is a flasks from baltimore

19:06

glass words from about eight and cities eighteen

19:08

sixties and baltimore glassworks

19:10

burned down and eighteen forties

19:12

and when they reopen they made

19:15

us commemorative flask that showed a phoenix

19:17

rising from the ashes and reserve i'm

19:19

i'm underneath of it the second

19:21

is latin for i shall rise again as

19:24

if it is so cool that

19:26

the concept of like novelty items

19:29

and and commemorative things like he would get

19:31

a baseball stadium is nothing new that companies

19:33

have been doing this for a while over a hundred years now

19:36

and all kinds of things crazies

19:39

why he can dentures

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even when appear to be amazon

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woodard

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grew up outside of baltimore and a town

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called moral when

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he was a kid one of the see for things to

21:49

do was go into the woods around his house

21:51

and explore

21:52

the with near nature preserve

21:54

and so this was like all reclaimed land

21:56

that the government took over are they going the forties

21:58

fifties but that there you could find like

22:00

old homes and

22:03

all cars does pretty cool and

22:05

when what types of things would use find

22:08

objects in those like houses are cars

22:10

and you'd be exploring at we'd ride

22:12

final bottles and and magazines

22:15

and books sometimes games and

22:17

things like that and then what was left of

22:19

the car itself the doors the motor sometimes

22:21

attire to

22:23

would you take them home with you

22:24

would you take the little things

22:26

home with you know my mom would kill me to

22:29

a safer place

22:31

to go as go as was the baltimore museums

22:33

industry it's see things

22:35

like a hundred year old printing press and

22:37

machinery from an old oyster cannery

22:40

did but did you find yourself being drawn

22:42

to like these and dust employees working

22:45

systems , and remnants of

22:47

of the way life used to be i'm

22:50

yeah i would say so because i've always been

22:53

interested in how things work as

22:55

, i would take part everything my parents get so

22:57

annoyed of that but then alfred about together and work

22:59

and so that was gonna call by and

23:02

i just liked i don't like

23:05

seeing what was here in baltimore

23:07

originally

23:08

i haven't got older he realized

23:11

he wasn't standing as much time outside as

23:13

he did when he was a kid during

23:16

a pandemic he , going for

23:18

hikes all over the city and surrounding

23:21

counties with his friend snap

23:23

palmer palmer one day we are

23:25

our and he found the so our beer bottle and

23:28

it just kind of like sparked my interest in it and

23:30

then i got home so researching it and

23:32

it wasn't so much researching this the

23:34

beer bottle itself like who made it but i was a story

23:37

behind it might ah what of this person

23:39

do in their life and how did it maybe and maybe to

23:42

lobbyists are stag when you say i'm actually

23:44

gonna tempt that i had just met had know we're

23:47

what we're lessons yeah my first dig was

23:49

in cells points behind this

23:51

old ah i guess is a boarding

23:54

house back on turn eighteen fifties

23:56

and there was turn large

23:58

barrel or place ground for the agree

24:01

the outhouse and that's we ended up excavating

24:03

on the barrel and this site was covered by concrete

24:05

so we had a buster that with our sledgehammers by

24:08

you know it was super rewarding afterwards

24:10

seeing all these things from i'm from the ground to

24:13

, to the first thing these hadn't have had pulled

24:15

up i believe it was a

24:17

films brothers bottling

24:19

, spear anjos amber

24:22

and of the crown top and a has like is a pitcher

24:24

of like two boxers fighting

24:26

ah i'm one standing over the other and

24:29

it's just like of kind of like a cool like is a

24:31

baltimore history to have the

24:33

often use the slogan

24:34

i knock out for thirst

24:37

guess of the bottle the sound was

24:39

from the t nineties

24:42

for you went digging that first time

24:45

he was hot

24:46

the front man had gone with him and two

24:48

of them started looking for other backyards

24:50

to dig up even

24:53

remember the time they spend hours and one backyard

24:56

trying to figure out where to dig it

24:59

wasn't working hum

25:01

i told him to call a man named chris ral

25:04

could be digging up pretty is and searching for

25:06

artifacts for twenty years haven't

25:09

caught him and says that within two

25:11

minutes of being in the backyard said

25:14

soon the pretty

25:16

in an open the pretty whisper

25:19

now the twentieth and take together

25:21

all the time the require

25:23

on the day we visited

25:25

what do you like doing that even doing

25:27

for a long time that

25:28

oh it's it's so fun you find things

25:30

nobody's ever seen before or at least

25:32

nobody's seen in hundreds of years and cared about

25:35

one hundreds of years and i was you

25:37

know we found a bottle earlier

25:39

this year this was telling your associate about

25:41

i'm that i'm had never seen

25:43

that was no record of one ever existing even though we only

25:45

had half of it of it enough i was able to glean enough

25:47

information from to find the advertisements for

25:49

the guy confirmed that it was his bottle

25:52

and that he was manufacturing

25:54

mustard in baltimore in the eighteen thirties

25:56

so that was an exciting thing for me to find

25:59

and put all that the back together and unified

26:01

be the first person they care about this guy in

26:03

his business for two hundred years it

26:06

, is just the excitement

26:08

of what could be down in the bottom of at home

26:11

treasure hunt the toilet

26:12

absolutely children on a toilet he announced

26:15

after few hours i decided i

26:18

wanted to give it a try that

26:20

was wearing a white button down shirt and

26:22

one of the men mommy their jacket before i climbed

26:24

in

26:26

the whole was

26:26

we eat feet deep and

26:28

about three feet wide a sort

26:31

of jag good uneven circle gone

26:34

so deep that we had these of rickety

26:36

metal folding ladder kind

26:38

, looks like something you'd only use an emergency

26:41

is that i climbed out her

26:44

ago

26:49

your really

26:50

he

26:53

was incredibly hard work try to get a shovelfuls

26:56

of clay into the bucket still have time

26:58

to time to get in the corner here to see if is that

27:00

seem as if you're , yes

27:04

yes whole is awkward you can't stand

27:06

straight up and see your kind of krauts in a foreigner

27:09

constantly flicking constantly the mud and sinking

27:11

into the stirred

27:16

clean up

27:20

, this is a summary of who is doubly

27:23

use the shovels before see the

27:25

amazed how many people don't know how he was several

27:28

months i taught as and i would still

27:30

have one bucket and then come back up

27:32

and i kept saying just

27:35

one more

27:37

the and i didn't read anything in there

27:42

at one point jared lyle

27:44

spoons the house came outside

27:47

to see how things were going

27:48

oh backyard was completely dot

27:51

it if it isn't your backyard this is now it

27:54

is it's kind of a mess right now

27:55

yet when back the backyard is them

27:58

as right now they've got probably like

27:59

it for her power dirt out here in the backyard

28:02

what is it is it interesting

28:05

for you to see all of this

28:07

is the stuff that was used by people who

28:09

lived here before you you need to see there

28:12

were people there are people living here in

28:14

your home and doing the same things are

28:16

doing is creating a life

28:17

sure am i think actually

28:19

them domestic lives of people israeli work

28:21

makes of history and really enrich is it makes

28:23

you can think of a big events but

28:26

really the day to day actions of

28:28

people's lives can lives can have contributed

28:30

to those men impossible not

28:32

to the texture and flavor everything most

28:36

homeowners are thrilled i'll stand outside

28:39

images and ask us what different things are

28:41

and you can see their face light up it's almost like

28:43

watching a kid on christmas ah we've

28:45

even had homeowners like basically alcohol

28:47

barbecue our backs on by their neighbors over

28:49

which is good for us because then the neighbors i can

28:51

do this in my yard and i figured kind

28:53

can bring like a neighborhood together because we'll

28:56

bounce around from different houses and

28:58

house and and of people said i'll go talk to john

29:00

down here go talk to steve are you know

29:02

rachel down as block and

29:04

it's really cool to see like the whole neighborhood much yes we

29:06

want you to come back and dig our backyard

29:10

they haven't found a lot of bottles while we were there

29:13

and also a small house

29:15

green attached to the little jar

29:17

and what appeared to be a crack ceramic

29:20

gravy boat with flowers painted on the sides

29:23

they get a few small it'll become

29:26

souvenirs

29:28

one of them with a tiny cobalt

29:30

blue glass bottles that it held bromo

29:32

seltzer

29:34

i'm never going down to the late nineteenth

29:36

century in baltimore i

29:39

haven't forgotten still don't it the the fact

29:41

he recovers to the baltimore museum

29:43

as industry the same he

29:45

seems he loved going to as to as boy

29:49

he added there's some days on noted for seven

29:52

hours and find nothing he

29:55

says he doesn't mind that's

29:57

part of it

30:01

a type of people that do this work

30:03

i mean all he knows who

30:06

who likes this

30:07

did you this stuff that's

30:10

, interesting like like

30:12

i know that i'm one of the of black

30:15

americans do this out do

30:17

and so i do like that

30:19

i'm trying to make them more accessible to

30:22

or show others that hey economic me on

30:24

be a good role model and get kids

30:26

model in this i mean for

30:28

me i didn't see people are look

30:30

like me on tv doing anything about history

30:32

arms i didn't know that hours late in

30:35

some than know that to do

30:36

the and history

30:39

is often the point of view of mean i'm mostly

30:41

white people and when

30:44

that's all you see and that like you're not

30:46

against see that representation ah

30:49

it out there and the field in i don't

30:51

really go for

30:59

funny because i think that we sometimes

31:01

have a hard time understanding the historical

31:03

significance of where we

31:05

live and with our that

31:08

they ain't imagining or envisioning

31:10

what's that has is like a hundred

31:12

years ago when the people when people first moved in

31:15

it it must make someone feel more connected

31:17

to where they live when they see they

31:20

actual evidence of evidence of people who

31:22

had been

31:22

there before them yeah cause and eager

31:24

to say that this was a beer bottle that the

31:26

personality my house or built miles strikes

31:41

life is greeted by lauren sport

31:43

and mean

31:45

media was in his or senior producer heated

31:47

the surplus or supervising producer

31:50

our producer or says in of others and jackie

31:52

city girl samantha brown and will be foster

31:55

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32:23

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