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The

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Gene Westcott grew up in upstate New York

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with two brothers and five sisters. My

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father was a bit of a jock in

1:41

his high school days, and so like

1:43

we played, there were enough of us that we could

1:45

play basketball against

1:48

each other, and we would play baseball.

1:51

It just was, we were just raised to

1:54

be competitive. They

1:56

were even competitive when they were watching

1:58

television.

1:59

I started watching Jeopardy! with my

2:01

family. Probably, it had

2:03

to be Art Fleming, but I don't remember. I just remember

2:06

the questions. But vying

2:08

for attention was

2:11

something that we would have to do, you know, because

2:13

there were so many of us. Name of the

2:15

flag with white skull and crossbones on a

2:17

black field. A toss. It was

2:19

a Jolly Roger. A Jolly Roger. Well done.

2:22

You're in the lead, sir. It was always exciting when I

2:24

could know the answer, even when I was really little.

2:27

You know, it was a...it

2:29

got me the attention from my father. I got

2:31

to, like, have a little bit of bragging

2:33

rights. And so

2:36

it was something that we did when my

2:38

dad was in the house. He was

2:40

in and out of our lives. But it was something

2:42

that was always a constant.

2:44

And so would you sit around

2:46

with your father and your brothers and sisters

2:48

and all be sitting around and

2:51

be calling out the answers? Yeah,

2:53

yeah. You know, and, you

2:56

know, obviously a lot of them were beyond

2:58

our ability, but it was just, you know, and

3:00

it was chaos. But we

3:02

always had a way of making ourselves heard. Jean

3:05

spent a lot of her childhood at the local library.

3:08

She thinks this gave her an edge during her family's

3:11

Jeopardy! nights.

3:13

I would read everything. It

3:15

wasn't necessarily to prove

3:18

that I knew everything. It was just I wanted

3:20

to know everything. And,

3:23

you know, that's not

3:24

something that's rewarded socially

3:27

very much. And when you would be

3:29

there and you'd get it right, you know,

3:31

do you remember your father looking at you and

3:33

saying, good job, Jean, or kind of

3:35

nodding in approval? No,

3:37

it was definitely would have been silent approval.

3:41

It was because

3:42

he wanted it. You know, it was his ego

3:44

as well. When you would watch Jeopardy!

3:47

as

3:47

a little girl with your father and your brother and this was,

3:49

would you think to yourself, I want to do that

3:52

one day?

3:53

No, it was it was TV

3:55

was.

4:00

So, like, much like another

4:02

planet, you know, I never

4:05

connected it to something that

4:08

was logical or attainable.

4:13

Jean went on to study politics and economics

4:16

in college and was a DJ

4:18

at her college radio station.

4:21

She later moved to D.C. and worked

4:23

at a bookstore while also going to law

4:25

school.

4:26

In 1990, she met a man

4:28

named Sean Westcott, and they got married.

4:31

They had a son and daughter.

4:34

She continued one of her father's

4:36

traditions with her children, playing

4:38

along with television game shows. When

4:42

I would watch TV with my kids, we'd

4:44

watch The Wheel of Fortune, Jeopardy,

4:47

and the local news. We

4:50

would play together, and my

4:54

oldest was, you know,

4:56

suitably impressed. He's like,

4:58

you should try out, you should try out. For

5:01

the first time in the late 90s or

5:03

early 2000s, Jean Westcott

5:06

took the idea of trying out for Jeopardy

5:08

seriously.

5:10

She decided she would audition,

5:12

but she wasn't picked. And

5:15

it was disappointing,

5:17

but at the same time, I

5:20

loved it,

5:21

and I wanted to do it again.

5:26

So she auditioned again, and

5:28

then again, and again,

5:30

for years.

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Jeopardy was created by television host

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Merv Griffin. He remembered

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his wife, Julianne, coming up with the idea

7:56

in 1963.

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show

8:00

gave the answers to the contestants and

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they had to come up with the questions. If

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you want to try out for Jeopardy! today, you

8:08

need to take a test online. Bess

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Truman was born in this state in 1885.

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What is Missouri?

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The title of this song, a number two

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hit by Drake, refers to a late

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is Hotline Bling? If

8:27

you pass, you'll be invited

8:29

to audition for Jeopardy! by videoconference.

8:33

Before the pandemic, you'd be invited

8:35

to a regional in-person audition. These

8:38

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8:42

But

8:42

in the 90s, each region

8:45

had their own way of narrowing down thousands

8:47

of

8:47

applicants.

8:49

One former contestant remembered having

8:51

to call a phone number for the local television

8:54

station. He got a busy signal

8:56

for 90 minutes before making it through.

9:00

Another contestant remembered hearing that if

9:02

you sent a postcard to the local television station,

9:05

you could be chosen to audition. On

9:08

the last possible evening, he drove

9:10

to the television station and put it in the

9:12

box, and he got picked.

9:16

Gene Westcott lived in Washington, D.C.,

9:19

which happened to be one of the cities that regularly

9:21

hosted Jeopardy! Triads. It

9:24

had nothing to do with skill at that

9:26

point. It was just being

9:28

chosen.

9:30

And tell me, before that first audition,

9:32

did you prepare?

9:33

Did you spend a lot of time

9:36

practicing?

9:37

Well,

9:40

there's a couple things that I think that

9:43

everyone needs to practice and everyone knows their

9:45

weak spots. But I think general

9:48

knowledge of the presidents in

9:50

order, as far as

9:53

knowing their dates, knowing the

9:58

basic plot points. of

10:00

the major Shakespearean plays, couple

10:04

operas, Your Bodies of

10:06

Water, take a look at an atlas.

10:10

But I didn't

10:13

study heavy because I knew

10:15

that the questions are

10:17

like in the show that they come from everywhere. What

10:21

I would do, and I worked in

10:23

a bookstore for 17 years, one

10:26

thing I would pick do is I would

10:28

pick up the world almanac because

10:31

I could look, okay, Oscar winners, you know,

10:34

that was my study material. And anytime

10:36

I went to an audition, I would

10:38

busy myself in

10:41

the process of getting to the audition

10:43

or waiting for the audition, just reading

10:45

through the pages of the almanac. Back

10:48

then, Jeopardy auditions began

10:50

with a written test. And

10:52

you'd be called in in groups. There's

10:55

a bunch of nervous people who

10:57

I hadn't realized how far people had

11:00

driven to get there. A lot of people had driven

11:02

four, six, eight, 10 hours to get

11:04

to the audition. I

11:08

guess the first couple, we were like a big

11:11

group, probably 60 to 80 people.

11:15

And you would all sit down and you get the introduction

11:18

and there would be a slideshow

11:20

of questions,

11:23

you know, and you would take

11:24

a test in the room.

11:27

And then while they were grading

11:30

the test, they would have us watch

11:32

a little introductory video

11:34

and grade the test

11:36

and they would come out and they would

11:38

dismiss everyone who hadn't

11:40

qualified. So that was a

11:42

pretty intense way of doing things. And, you

11:45

know, especially just seeing the looks on people's

11:47

faces after all that investment

11:50

in time and energy and

11:53

everyone had to come dressed as if

11:55

they were on the show. So

11:57

it was pretty nerve-racking.

12:00

And then... So these are

12:02

people that had kind of dressed up? Oh, everybody.

12:05

Yeah, we were all in business attire. They

12:07

tell you to dress as

12:09

if you were appearing on the show.

12:11

Jean remembers about two-thirds

12:12

of the people in the room with her were

12:15

dismissed, but she made

12:17

the cut. It made me happy

12:20

and it reinforced that

12:22

I belonged. And

12:26

I had so much enthusiasm from

12:29

coworkers and from my family

12:31

and my brothers and sisters.

12:35

Everyone believed I could do it.

12:36

And I'm glad I

12:39

didn't disappoint them or disappoint

12:41

myself that

12:41

I'm like, okay, I can do it. Everyone

12:45

who made it past the written test went on

12:47

to the next stage.

12:49

So you get through and then you stand

12:51

up in groups. And is it kind of like you have an Alex

12:54

Trebek-type host who's

12:56

now you feel like you're really

12:58

playing? Yeah.

13:01

It was... So you're standing

13:03

up and you don't have the pedestal. You're standing

13:06

behind, so you feel a little naked. And

13:09

they hand you little buzzers and

13:13

they tell you to speak up and be enthusiastic.

13:16

All the coaching you would expect

13:18

if they're trying to produce good TV. And

13:22

yeah, they ask you questions. You

13:26

knew you were up against strong players,

13:29

but you still wanted

13:32

to win. Jean

13:35

did well at that mock game. All

13:37

of her responses were correct. But

13:40

there is still one last part of the process.

13:44

That little personality interview

13:47

when they ask you about yourself. And

13:50

it was fun in that they

13:52

tried to keep it light and there were a lot of jokes.

13:54

And they took Polaroids of everyone

13:57

and we had to write down...

14:00

some prompts for interesting stories

14:03

to discuss with the host. So

14:06

yeah, it was pretty tense and

14:09

you walk out just

14:12

saying, okay, you're in the pool, but

14:14

at the same time you just saw

14:17

fear. What did they

14:19

say? Did they say, go home and

14:21

we'll call you if we need to? Yes,

14:23

sometime in the next 18 months.

14:28

It was weird because you never got rejected.

14:30

You just never got chosen. So

14:33

you got home thinking, you

14:35

got home thinking, okay,

14:37

maybe

14:39

I'll get a phone call. Yep. And

14:42

then for each of us, you just have to sit and wait. Yep.

14:45

She

14:48

never heard back.

14:50

But Jean says she had such a great time

14:52

at the audition, she couldn't wait to try again.

14:55

But according to the rules

14:57

of the show, she wasn't allowed to

14:59

come back during this waiting period. I

15:02

would say the hardest thing was you

15:05

couldn't take the next year's

15:07

test. Like when you were

15:10

in the pool, when you were in the

15:12

eligibility pool, you

15:15

couldn't take it again. So

15:18

after those 18 months were up and you realized

15:20

that, okay, I didn't get picked, but

15:22

I can now be eligible to take

15:24

the test again. Did

15:26

you do it right away? Yes. Yes. Just

15:30

like the first time, Jean made it past

15:33

the written test, did well

15:35

on her mock game, and then

15:38

didn't hear back.

15:39

So

15:40

after you

15:43

didn't make it through on the second round, I mean, would you start,

15:46

were you trying out every 18 months,

15:49

every time? Yep, every

15:51

time. And because I think it was

15:53

only once a year,

15:56

and so it would be every other year. And

15:58

each time they gave you a little.

15:59

bit of a...they gave you

16:02

a pen. The button

16:05

action is the same as the

16:07

buzzer. And so they say

16:11

when you play at home, ring

16:14

in. And we started to make sets of rules

16:16

in my family when we played

16:18

that I had to wait until

16:21

Alex has finished reading the question. She

16:24

had to wait because contestants

16:26

are only allowed to buzz in after the last

16:28

syllable of the clue is read. If

16:31

you ring in too soon, your buzzer gets

16:33

locked for a quarter of a second.

16:36

The buzzer has

16:36

been called totally diabolical.

16:40

So like my husband, if he knew

16:42

it, he could shout it out before and like he would

16:44

get the non...we

16:46

didn't keep score, but he would get

16:48

that one because he could ring

16:51

in at any time and or blurt

16:53

out the answer, but I had to wait.

16:57

In 2004, Ken Jennings won 74 games

17:00

in a row, setting the record for

17:02

most consecutive games won. And

17:05

today he's the host of Jeopardy. He

17:09

said that in high-level games, buzzer

17:11

timing quote, tends to

17:13

separate the winner from the non-winners. Contestants

17:17

have tried to figure out the best way to hold the buzzer,

17:21

sideways, with two hands, even

17:23

brace it on the podium. Jean

17:26

continued going to auditions as often

17:29

as she could. She went to so many

17:31

that she started to recognize members of

17:33

the Jeopardy crew. Maggie

17:36

Speak was the contestant coordinator at the

17:38

time. During most of

17:40

these, she recognized me like I

17:42

remember once I had dyed my hair and

17:45

she loved the color, you know, so I mean, I was

17:47

like, I knew the people.

17:50

They were the same people every time. What

17:53

parts of the audition process did

17:56

you like? What were your favorite parts? The

17:59

standing up and answering. answering questions, you know,

18:01

like the standing there with the buzzer and doing it because

18:03

it felt very much like

18:05

a kind of like a sports kind of thing, you

18:08

know. I

18:10

enjoyed that the best. And

18:13

I would take tests for fun. I mean, I

18:16

always love taking tests. It's

18:19

the opposite of test anxiety. I know

18:21

that's weird. In 2014,

18:24

a Washington Post reporter covered

18:26

the local auditions in D.C. But

18:29

she got around that there was a person there

18:31

who had tried out nine times.

18:34

The reporter wrote,

18:36

I asked around until I found that determined

18:38

soul. Jean told the

18:40

reporter that trying out for Jeopardy

18:43

was her hobby. But

18:45

she was starting to question why she wasn't

18:48

getting picked. As

18:50

I auditioned over and over and over

18:52

and over again, I

18:55

started to like second guess like,

18:58

well, one, I'm overweight.

19:00

And so I'm like, oh, am I too fat?

19:03

And then you're like, oh, did

19:05

I not choose the right clothes?

19:08

Oh, is it my personality? You know,

19:11

and it's just like, I

19:13

took comfort in that I was competing

19:15

in D.C. and

19:17

I would I knew that there was a bit of an

19:19

overrepresentation from

19:22

people from D.C. And while

19:24

I never practiced, I have a law degree. So I'm

19:27

like, oh, God, an attorney from D.C.,

19:29

they they have enough of those.

19:33

And so I would kind of console myself

19:36

with, OK, it's, you

19:38

know, they just don't need

19:40

another person from D.C. But

19:42

even that didn't work sometimes. I just

19:45

felt like a big failure, you know, so.

19:48

Because you knew that you were getting all the questions, right? So

19:51

it must be something about you, your personality,

19:53

the way you are.

19:54

Yeah, it's like it's not

19:57

a matter of it is you.

20:00

Did you ever get to a point after the third or fourth

20:02

audition, fifth audition, where you thought,

20:07

I'm not going to do this anymore. I'm trying

20:09

really hard and they're not picking me. I'm

20:12

not doing it.

20:13

No. I indeed,

20:16

the thing is, is at some point I

20:18

was

20:18

like, this is just who I am.

20:21

This is the girl who applies,

20:24

tries, does well, doesn't

20:26

get on. Jean Westcott

20:29

kept auditioning for over 20 years. To

20:33

her knowledge, nobody has tried out for

20:35

Jeopardy as many times as she has.

20:41

And then in February, 2021,

20:43

she got a phone call. It

20:47

said, hi, this is,

20:49

I think it was Glenn, Glenn

20:51

from Jeopardy. We're going to be calling

20:54

you within the next 24 hours. They

20:56

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After auditioning for more than 20 years,

22:18

Jean Westcott finally got the phone

22:20

call. They wanted her to

22:22

be on Jeopardy. She

22:24

was told she would need to fly to California, but

22:28

Jean was worried about COVID.

22:30

You know, I was like, you know, you're

22:32

still nervous

22:32

about going to the grocery store, you

22:35

know, you're still nervous about like,

22:38

seeking your family. And

22:41

I now, of

22:43

course, this is when I'm going

22:45

to be saying, oh, you need to get a hotel,

22:47

you need to fly in a plane. So

22:50

it was a little bit of the, of

22:53

course, this is when, and then

22:55

you also have the self doubt. It's like, wait,

22:57

wait, they couldn't get

22:59

anyone else, could they? It's

23:03

like, this

23:04

worked out really well. And I still

23:06

kind of have that feeling. And so, you

23:09

know, it's like, I know I earned my

23:11

spot, you know, but it's

23:13

just one of these things where you're like, okay,

23:16

okay, they were desperate. And,

23:20

but I still wasn't gonna,

23:22

I was never gonna say no.

23:24

How did you start preparing

23:26

for

23:27

the show?

23:29

It was the almanac again. And

23:33

when I told my family that I was going to be

23:35

on like my siblings, my

23:38

sister Beth said, you

23:41

need to work on sports. And she asked

23:43

me what

23:45

team has

23:49

the first female manager. And

23:52

I thought it was the Mets. And it

23:54

was the Marlins.

23:56

And my other sister was asking

23:58

me about cocktail recipes.

23:59

because, you know,

24:02

that's the kind of thing she thought I needed

24:04

to practice. So you had one sister

24:07

calling you, telling you, saying, this is

24:09

what is in a Manhattan. And

24:11

another sister saying, you've got to figure

24:13

out the sports. Did it feel like there was

24:15

this whole community around you had been

24:18

championing you for so many years that we're now saying, Jean,

24:21

one more thing. Don't forget this. Book

24:23

one, Genesis, is... Yes. Yes.

24:27

It was amazing. And

24:28

that's... I

24:31

feel it.

24:33

I was living everybody's little

24:35

dream for Jean. So it wasn't their dream,

24:38

you know, but when anybody who was

24:40

like truly loved me knew I loved

24:43

this. And

24:45

so they knew it was important

24:47

to me. In March 2021,

24:50

Jean arrived at Sony Pictures

24:53

Studios in Culver City. At

24:56

the time, Jeopardy! was going through

24:58

a lot of

24:59

change.

25:00

The longtime host, Alex Trebek, had

25:03

died the year before. He'd been

25:05

the host since 1984 and hosted more than 8,200

25:07

episodes. While

25:11

the producer searched for his replacement guest

25:14

hosts, including Anderson Cooper, Aaron

25:17

Rogers and LeVar Burton, were

25:19

going to fill in. What

25:21

was it like walking out on that

25:24

stage

25:24

for the first time? Surreal.

25:26

Surreal. The whole

25:29

day, it's just steps, steps,

25:32

steps, steps. You know, you can't

25:34

take it in, you know, because you'll get overwhelmed.

25:39

It was wonderful, terrifying,

25:42

confusing, frustrating, all those things.

25:46

And you're given a little COVID bag

25:48

and they had hand sanitizer

25:51

and

25:52

bring you into a room. They were in the room,

25:55

the studio where the audience would

25:57

sit for Wheel of Fortune.

25:59

And

26:01

everything is all covered up. I can

26:03

see the wheel, but it was all covered

26:04

up. Wait a second. Jeopardy

26:07

and Wheel of Fortune happen next to each other?

26:09

Yeah, they're two studios right next to

26:11

each other. In

26:12

real life, always?

26:14

Yeah, so it's not just on your television.

26:16

Yeah, they're right next

26:19

to each other on the sunny lot. And

26:22

we found out who our host was going to be. We were all

26:24

surprised because they

26:27

were just announcing that day the

26:29

next set of hosts. Her host

26:32

would be Dr. Oz.

26:34

And there was no

26:36

audience, so we would be each other's

26:38

audience

26:39

at that point. I think they

26:41

sweetened the sound to make people sound

26:44

like they're clapping, when instead of the, you

26:46

know,

26:47

however many people, I think there

26:49

were like 17 or 16 people. I'm

26:52

both producing professors from Woodbridge,

26:54

Virginia's

26:55

Gene Kestman. And

26:59

I think I stayed

27:00

very aloof.

27:04

I felt like I didn't let

27:06

my nerves get to me. In 2020,

27:09

Kim Ng became the first women general

27:11

manager in Major League Baseball for this

27:13

Florida team.

27:15

Gene. What are the Marlins? Correct. All

27:17

right, 600 in Kim.

27:19

I really couldn't believe that

27:22

one question that came from my sister, who

27:24

had been in that living room, you know, at

27:27

this point, almost 50 years

27:30

ago or 40 something years ago. And

27:34

that exact question, out of all

27:36

the questions.

27:36

Brave six-year-old Percival

27:39

William Williams is known as We This

27:42

from a book of nursery rhymes.

27:44

Gene. Who is Willy?

27:47

Yes, that's right. It's We Willy Winky.

27:50

And it was funny, like when you were playing

27:52

for real, it took me

27:54

a little while to realize I was

27:57

playing for

27:57

real. And I remember.

27:59

I felt like, wait, wait, Jean, you're not doing

28:02

the game you want to do. And so I started going

28:04

for the clues at the bottom. I'm like, if I want to win,

28:06

I have to start. Like there was a point

28:08

where I remember it clicked and I was like, now,

28:12

Jean,

28:13

what is eye of the tiger? Correct.

28:16

All

28:16

right. 12 letters for a thousand. All

28:18

right. Was it easy? I mean, was it harder than

28:20

you thought? I mean, you've been playing for so long at

28:22

home and then these auditions, but when you actually got up there

28:25

and you had the buzzer in your hand, did

28:27

you realize, well, this is, this

28:29

is really different.

28:31

You know, I think all those

28:33

years of practice

28:34

actually

28:36

served me well. Um,

28:38

I, I, I, I, all

28:41

the time I was comfortable about the game. It's

28:44

time for final jeopardy. Here's your category.

28:47

American history.

28:48

Please make your wages. We'll be back with

28:50

the poll.

28:52

So what were you go? What were you going

28:54

into final jeopardy with and how

28:57

much did you bet? I had, I

28:59

was going in at like 12,000, which is healthy.

29:03

Yeah. And I can't even remember the exact, but I had

29:05

done pretty well. And,

29:08

um, I had, uh, um,

29:11

I bet.

29:13

It all,

29:14

I wanted to win as big as I could. Well,

29:17

you'd waited long enough. Yeah.

29:21

Welcome back. We're in final jeopardy. The category

29:24

American history. Here's your clue.

29:27

While performing in Philadelphia, the future

29:29

father of this man sent a letter

29:32

threatening to slit Andrew Jackson's

29:34

throat. You have 30 seconds. Good

29:36

luck.

29:37

I was like, what

29:39

family would be around to be both pissed

29:41

at Andrew Jackson and

29:44

I didn't know. He's Lincoln.

29:47

And I came up with George

29:50

H W. Bush.

29:56

The correct response was

29:58

John Wilkes Booth.

30:02

Gene, let me go to you. You have $12,800. Were you

30:04

able to find that response? Nope.

30:08

George Bush. He wasn't that

30:10

old. H. You

30:14

aged 12,798, which takes you to $2.

30:20

I knew I blew

30:21

it, but I didn't think I would have been able to come

30:23

up with it. I mean, that's the thing that

30:25

if it was something that I just got

30:28

the name wrong or I spelled wrong

30:30

or I had was just like

30:32

I named the wrong beetle or something like that, that

30:35

would have been disappointing. But I

30:37

so brilliantly blew it. I was

30:39

so wrong that

30:41

I can't be mad at myself.

30:44

And

30:46

it was like this exhale.

30:50

And I was

30:52

kind of proud of how badly I answered

30:55

it.

30:58

After the show,

30:59

Gene says she was exhausted. She

31:02

called her family and broke the news that

31:04

she didn't win. She drove around

31:06

California, took pictures of

31:08

Culver City and flew home to Virginia

31:11

the next day. The

31:13

episode aired six weeks later. She

31:16

watched in her living room with her son and her husband.

31:19

Her daughter was watching from Sierra.

31:23

And when the episode ended, this

31:25

thing could have been part of her life for

31:27

more than 20 years. It was

31:29

over. I miss doing

31:32

it so much. Like

31:35

I would I would you know, like everybody

31:37

who's on the show would be on it

31:39

again in a minute. Gene's

31:43

father, the person who introduced her

31:45

to Jeopardy, never got to see

31:47

her play. He died

31:49

in 2006. And they weren't

31:51

in touch in the years leading up to his death.

31:55

So he never got to see that I kept

31:57

to it.

31:58

But I'm sure wherever he was, he was.

31:59

was throughout his life, if

32:02

there was a TV on and Jeopardy was

32:04

available, he was playing in that room as

32:06

well.

32:10

Jean and her husband

32:12

still watch every night.

32:17

If you want to try out for Jeopardy today, you

32:19

can take their online test on the

32:21

show's website. I

32:23

would constantly be trying to encourage other people

32:25

that I know,

32:27

oh, you should do it, the online test, it's easy. Okay,

32:30

so I just

32:32

logged on to the

32:34

adult practice test and one of

32:36

the questions is, in

32:38

Genesis chapter 4, the

32:40

Lord set a mark upon this

32:43

brother, lest any

32:45

finding him should kill him.

32:50

I forgot.

32:51

I know, I'm like,

32:52

is it Shem? I

32:58

don't know. You've

33:01

done it, Jean. You don't have to answer one more question.

33:03

Yeah, that's the thing. I don't have to answer any

33:05

more questions. And

33:08

I have the invitations that prove that

33:10

I've passed so many tests.

33:13

You have all the pens, you have all

33:15

the buzzers. I have all the pens. I have

33:17

a hat.

33:18

They gave me a hat. I

33:20

have headphones. I

33:22

have so much Jeopardy swag.

33:34

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