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august twenty third at twenty twenty

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two welcome to this is only it's us

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story me is to shore resorted

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to see the see you to

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sf is happening were in the middle conference

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i know we're all happy day or that they

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are the crunch gone on for sure i apologized

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of your wing for of the podcast last week

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a week to caught up with us actually

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i was down in los angeles with

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adam at props store ah

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izumi to a short two day trip down

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there to do some filming with some and

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, videos which are coming out right now but we have

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flexi sort of bunch of them so i

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his you had not been falling on youtube channel

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channel the a better call saul online

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auction is happy right now so

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that series ended last week i

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confess i still have not watched

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it yet so i've only seen britain

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bad but ah timing was right

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that the studio that runs the runs

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because of his ending is auctioning

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off all the costumes and props from it including

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things familiar to breaking bad fans

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and so adam being a really big better call saul

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fan went down and we i can

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censor sick with those costumes and props

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of those videos on the site's long story short

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got home had edited videos swamp

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didn't get a chance to do a podcast

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and so here we are early this

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week the are of a silicone and

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that's one reason we're going out early show this week

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out them to bridge the gap between the

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the

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down

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the name , it i have

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all the con anxiety trying to finish

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like my cosplay and

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and really just have really they're

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excited and hyped about that com coming

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up i and we do have an interview

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which and sector later in the episode

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where we who's ,

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help put together a lot of the programming

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for silicone including a lot

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of the maker content that you'll see their ah

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and so we talk which and for about twenty

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or thirty minutes about all

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the things that are happy at silicon

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needless to say we are high

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that your the kids say we are hiding we

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are much much hype much i pray i think

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i i it's that the bus or even

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though we're not running the show

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for it is adam so a chinese

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doing so much less heavy lifting she like the secret

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weapon of organizing

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and logistics and just

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keeping this thing together ah

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this maker verse parson of silk on the

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other of it's securing

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and the the folks on social

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media that we are going to be the show just

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getting the bus the energy of them wherever i'm at

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studio of all the stuff being

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gathered to bring down to san jose

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like will definitely feel it so while may not have sex

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with my day to day it is something

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that absolutely as i is is that

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the that the of that happening this

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weekend our world yeah but

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, will get to that bill gets a silicone talk

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of things were offended about things that are happening

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a preview of the panels and

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the workshops ah but forget

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all that i did what was that so much

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media talk about it's the recurring

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theme this this big streaming

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said the daily news of content

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from the sandman from pray last

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week to this week there to premier's

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and when i'm done in the season premiere

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spots yeah season new marvel so

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and also a new h b o show so

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as west world concluded and

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as was last one last marvel or lhasa

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will be one concluded on to see plus now

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we are in the months of she hulk

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and house of the dragon both

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of which we watch so let's

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dive right into at first of all sea

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hawk the half hour a

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lawyer so the adaptation

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of long running characters are

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kind of also starting around the fact

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that marvel can not does not have the rights

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to do a solo hulk anything

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this is jennifer walters

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had played by tatiana

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, lonnie in a nine

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episode thirty minute run and

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the first episode it into a multi opposite dropped

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his one episode a time ah

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time love it

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it's really true to the comics

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so m you know as

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it's been called by a lot of and single female

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, singles runs in trauma fans

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absolutely idea upset at it

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is really true to the comic books

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to there's like fourth wall breaking

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it's it's very very

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leans heavily leans her

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role as i got a working lawyer

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and dealing with being a halt

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by not having that kind of split

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identity that we often see

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with bruce banner in in

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how he is is hop on

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and dealing with sort of the complications

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of life is really tends to be quite

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a cervix to would say a point

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it's funny funny so

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and so i think they totally

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dot

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the vibe of the comic great and

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so i totally applaud them and

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it's off be in weird and it's probably

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only getting get weirder

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see think the thing that everyone was saying got

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coming into this after them or first trailer

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is that the cd was gonna was gonna look

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bad he was distracting i didn't find

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it distracting now it's not perfect

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it's not movie quality but

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it's fine and i and that was my

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main worry about the cd that would pull me

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out of the

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yeah and and i'm i'm

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sure will hear stories his the other already

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have been stories about reactions

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of the first trailers and snobbish you

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else incomplete cg specifically for their

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sought spurts of italics

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the credits to see as one affects how

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such doing all the cg ah

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and even if it is no the been a spencer and

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times or types of sauce and they're definitely

6:21

environments not just kind of officials rest

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of the in whole environments where that

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you hawks on the show spoilers

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is also more buffalo as the hawkins pilot

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episode was just that

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that looks better might look there's certain

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sorts of the hopes that look

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better and more photo real then

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certain other shots and but i

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find it struck me either because of the performances

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for all their like the is it's rough

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low is so natural as a smart

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whole character now in some

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of that the funny the funny smart

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hope that we saw an endgame like that

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is it's it's the same character and

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there were poor their chemistry is

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magical yeah

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tatiana [unk] motwani is great

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in this role i'm there's

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something about it that left me wanting

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though i found i found it to be

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find it was funny if like

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followed the genre and it was

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consistent with the comic as

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i expected it like there's

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something about it they're felt a little worse

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on screen the that

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i'm wondering if that's going

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to translate to future episodes

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or if that was largely because we

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didn't really get many other characters

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behind beyond seok in this

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in this episode and as the universe

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builds out maybe the the kind of

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feeling around the show

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expands as well but i felt alone

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narrow for

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what i took away was that it felt like a fully

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formed character like get us

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in the first thirty minutes i got who she

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was and the way she struggles

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per jan walters look

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and her she hulk look they are the same

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add that's the thing that i didn't realize

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they would tackle in the service or went diving a

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little bit of spoilers but the fact

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that net hulk like he

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is one of the major plot points in this for

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some sort is hop realizing that

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she's different than him as

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a whole and that he expected her to

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have a jewellery and the fact that she

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doesn't know they actually have an

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inch in world explanation for

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that and and the way

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she deals of being hawkers complete different she doesn't

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want to be a superhero as she has

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a personal life she's comes at it from the the

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priest the perspective of a woman or

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all these things

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like were or or of meat gray

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area explore as a character

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yeah

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i agree i also love

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that ah this

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this first one maiming

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out the first but it's it's a marvel

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show that doesn't take the marvel universe

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seriously in so many of like

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the previous shows have been really precious

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westlake what has come before

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this is like not precious with any

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of that and and stuff like we

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got we got like the

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character origin in the first couple minutes

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of this and they didn't even mess around with

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it they're just lay off air it is good luck

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with that there's

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a post credit that basically is like

9:21

you know having fun with the the

9:23

lore of the mc you the

9:27

, can that's a fine line to walk

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to be the a

9:32

be in universe but not take it

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too seriously the james gunn typically

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does really well yeah but

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then you can go across that line pretty

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quickly to any turn into

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like a bad satire and so

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our eat it'll be a tough line for them to walk

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for nine episode

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the you're right it doesn't read as

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read farce it doesn't read as read satire

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or satire or is read as

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this is another corner of the

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the mc you and while that are and now

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world know world has been has been stricken

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with you know chaos and

10:05

war and this this of world

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what universe changing event in

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the bay and coming about we've

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never replace actually you know cause big events

10:14

like life also still goes on as

10:16

people and that is so believable

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in the world we live in today as

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we about we a a changing event

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but you know like also does go on

10:24

and we can they get the week knowledge the

10:26

things that have affected the world and they

10:28

also acknowledged as well in there and love

10:30

that i love the their the small moments of of

10:33

have been are talking about know

10:35

that hang out with tony and

10:37

and the oh the elders like depth

10:40

in that these if the lyric holly booking

10:42

that way my feet two characters

10:44

talking and yes there's a fight scene but the

10:46

best parts of the so we're just two characters

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talking it

10:53

was it was wrestling it was called

10:56

cousin horse play the

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showrunners

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here jessica gout it's a showrunner

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lead, writer previously of rick and

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morty so

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it's a place as it was with the she-hulk

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comics for the intersection

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of some of the more absurd parts of

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the the mc you're not just absurd characters

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but the absurd situations that

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they find themselves in so no

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one was in there we know from previous

11:33

trailers can be daredevil in there so

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at me i'm super excited and the fact that it's not

11:38

six episode that nine episodes

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of that gives a little bit more room

11:43

the breathe as well i did you

11:45

catch to to his of of

11:47

the future in in the first episode

11:49

one with to so clear

11:52

you know chekhov's gun lamp saying

11:54

the air the the hoped mentioning

11:57

about meeting said laser

11:59

the sinner the blood because it want to risk

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he have a chance of anyone getting whole powers

12:03

in the future with their special mix of dna

12:06

i fell the clear telegraphing

12:08

of a thing to be fulfilled

12:10

surely hopefully later on in

12:12

in the series are you talking about

12:14

the ship your time of the south and a sip

12:16

as the others that yeah this is the other thing

12:18

so i see the thing that's just the instigates

12:21

the whole of her becoming

12:23

seahawks is a

12:25

car accident in this in

12:27

this it's not a blood transfusion it's a

12:29

pure accidents but it's this the car

12:31

and i the guy got

12:34

a class three vessel or something that just offhand

12:36

mention as a joke of

12:38

but that can only mean one of two things

12:40

it could mean that it is the

12:43

keys for secret invasion coming

12:47

right he he has make tv event

12:50

or or it's a tease for

12:54

the world war hulk hulk

12:56

sun and the comics scar

12:58

or it's both for

13:01

the secret invasion is where we're going to see a character

13:04

so how son is initially where my

13:06

head went from but

13:08

i was also thinking could be a

13:10

jeff goldblum a

13:12

cameo the

13:16

media metics yeah yeah they keep

13:18

up with i just the ridiculousness of it

13:20

and everything ah i

13:22

don't know but i also they don't

13:24

make too big of a deal at the to be a

13:27

minor is

13:28

i love it there the country

13:31

over they they are the ramifications

13:33

of hulk being the champion

13:36

the champion car

13:37

or not forgotten

13:39

the fact that he's left that played

13:41

it while having a lasting impact and

13:43

that be epic world war hulk

13:46

and a planet hulk storylines

13:48

that is a fan favorites that they can't do

13:50

a solo movie out of wasn't just

13:52

the beep lot of a store movie that they are

13:54

gonna hopefully have some continuation

13:57

and if the if they're doing what we are anticipates

14:00

which is the bring a new generation of heroes and

14:02

characters with young avengers so

14:04

me so much seating and like that the the hidden

14:06

mandate never yams you prosecute worth

14:08

a kid that they can have show

14:11

up and and the the

14:13

passing of the towards rights you know what's

14:15

the kid equivalent of hulk if not a

14:17

young kid hulk how

14:19

kid are

14:22

unlucky borders york it's on every thursday's

14:24

must , tv as he as a twitter

14:26

as cellmates and will

14:29

be softness on the phone or this the

14:31

elderly be talking about the episode when the episode remember

14:33

talk of years maybe not every week but sums

14:36

up thumbs up for me so

14:38

move on from a seahawk to us

14:40

h b o the next big

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thing and it was indeed

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a massive debut over ten million

14:47

households tuned in for the first

14:49

episode of house of

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the dragon the game of thrones

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prequel i'm out

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to begin in earnest uses to

14:58

start on this one because i will assess

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certain i'm one of those fevers

15:03

said it is still slightly

15:05

mad

15:06

the use all this amount of time later

15:09

after season eight as a scammer like ah

15:12

whenever and i was not excited about

15:14

this and i feel like i was coerced

15:16

into watching this so what was your reaction

15:19

before i still you my sweet

15:21

coerce as in like co of course by

15:23

violence by says i

15:26

still i mean that upsets i

15:29

live by live think we can all relate to that i

15:31

think that's like this very memorable like

15:33

the like whole generation of game of thrones

15:35

fans i think agree that it did

15:37

not stick the landing the and

15:40

i maybe that's that's hard to say that certainly

15:42

when like be the first the twitter

15:45

fan base frame like in in the reddit fan

15:47

base is it was disappointing but your

15:49

game of thrones of with a wide reaching show

15:51

and for a lot of our viewing audience

15:54

it was a fine eight season

15:56

and then you because i think the bride could use

15:59

another season uda the stretch

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out the story to tell a fuller story is

16:03

it feel rushed agree about your

16:05

i think it's something in in us we

16:07

are infected by that

16:10

that fandom that if they're going

16:12

up h b o is going to put a thrones

16:14

tv show on tv i don't think we can help i think

16:17

it is now just in our blood

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that we have to wash at least three give it a try dot

16:21

will give grown i enjoyed it

16:25

it was fine

16:26

this is

16:28

it had a lot of the game of thrones

16:30

beats i will tell you what not to

16:32

do if you're looking to enjoy this do

16:34

not watch more be as ahead of it because

16:37

soon as the matt smith character concerns on

16:39

you won't not be able to picture him

16:41

as , character from that movie ah

16:44

in doing that dance that he did in mobius

16:47

we me ever thought about more we in the one that know

16:49

is now i hear it

16:51

is wild with the more

16:53

being that went down and they're they're his

16:56

life it hit the beats like

16:58

there's like you know the the tragedy

17:01

be political intrigue

17:03

be the kind of like brutality

17:05

be up it said let's hit all the beads

17:08

for it i didn't feel like it is

17:10

is it had earned a be of them

17:12

yet it was us like remember or where

17:14

we are people are like this here

17:17

instead of like building out the characters

17:20

to where the those

17:23

moves were quite earned m

17:25

i remember game of thrones

17:27

season one really being slow

17:30

the yard in and this does not

17:32

easy when as much this

17:34

sort of i mean there isn't

17:37

like a red wedding off the off

17:39

the top or something crazy like that like

17:41

that is very much like

17:43

a you this year in

17:45

political intrigue from the drop

17:48

i know that the exactly where game of thrones

17:51

started but it started like

17:53

outside of the capital in in in

17:55

light kind of the the with

17:57

of of what was happening

18:00

the answer there is like a more of a mystery

18:02

to this is like you're in the middle of it

18:04

a big house sitting for the show

18:06

will be how

18:09

how much they trust the viewers

18:11

the have patience and to learn

18:14

the complicated story with

18:16

many with with a big

18:19

cast and crew and that's a we don't know yet

18:22

if there is is called houses dragon it's

18:24

about this or gary and if they're just gonna focus

18:26

on the characters we saw

18:28

in this first episode and

18:30

maybe like maybe few more that's going that's few

18:32

small fuel small i think what

18:35

may game of thrones take so long and

18:37

feel like it was true was

18:40

true that they built was it's

18:42

is that there it's unashamed of like throwing

18:44

characters and names and and

18:46

story lines that type somewhere on

18:48

afraid to go nowhere but you're invested because

18:51

you wanted if you're you

18:53

the he was it was unpredictable and

18:55

that way an

18:57

awful character motivations like as long as they're truth

19:00

us you don't not getting plot

19:02

armor to every character major

19:04

character and letting characters succumb

19:07

to their faults

19:10

they're already many faults

19:12

in the care for as we've seen ah that

19:14

was awful some of the best stuff and having great dialogue

19:16

scenes to write like know they they

19:18

are there they got to ride on george

19:21

rr martin's books in

19:23

in the first ah the in the result series

19:26

of a hear ya i wanna see

19:28

more intense seems

19:30

odd was almost like play like in

19:33

terms of some of the the sparring that

19:35

they do in dialogue they

19:38

also the got me hooked for now and throws

19:40

only like three more two more weeks until a

19:42

lot of the rings a

19:44

book that he got too big prequels

19:46

fantasy shows though ,

19:48

duel and second for me it's likely that the quake

19:51

quake un unreal tournament is on

19:53

the truth i poison i watch for i watch

19:55

both which which will who own

19:57

sunday night as you know even you when i'm

20:00

what night a lot of raises claiming

20:03

a blitz on thursday night ah

20:05

seahawks the endorse coming

20:07

up ah too much content

20:09

is going on i don't quote me on a counters

20:12

what were kids in a watch like

20:15

he wrote it was it will school at a certain

20:17

age to go back and watch what your parents watch

20:19

and be like kiffin with sure but

20:22

the kids these days they're going to grow up and there's me

20:24

too much for gonna consume i can we take

20:26

a break in hollywood disagree there

20:28

be a get a catch up year like

20:31

like a gap year in production and

20:33

releasing things and like me a good

20:35

luck kids bins and catch up or

20:38

or as it's a slice no one's in a was old

20:40

things anymore and your son was new things

20:42

too much is you're throwing the premier's on

20:44

friday

20:45

organ or it for it so wednesday's

20:47

and or thursday seahawks friday lord

20:50

rings setter a sig break

20:52

and sunday the

20:56

smith for me as

20:59

i know you son was the sandman

21:01

the sandman you gotta get on it because we need to

21:03

season two i even though it's been a

21:05

number one showing netflix for

21:08

almost a month now i a

21:10

virgin river came back and got it the

21:14

wait what what what

21:16

it is virgin river the terrible

21:18

like dramedy that is on netflix

21:21

oh god another another get the a sequel

21:23

i've i've ever seen that i don't have you know that show exists

21:25

don't watch that show i watched

21:27

that show okay alright i wanted his past

21:30

the fabric finally okay oh

21:32

okay got it got it got it that's not

21:34

good not good we need to get past

21:37

version river is that what it is a

21:39

and catch them and back on top because

21:42

that's the only way that is going to get

21:44

a second season even though gaming is incompetent

21:46

that all get renewed because it he says to they're

21:48

expensive show a but

21:51

the a the show runners

21:53

the

21:54

the surprise they had a surprise eleventh

21:57

episode of that he dropped

22:00

last week so merely like two

22:02

weeks after the premier sandman

22:05

was a bonus episode which i

22:07

don't know that's know that's sign or bad sign but

22:10

efforts to perfectly but if felt

22:12

like one of those things that if

22:14

the show was doing super well

22:17

they would have drop after a year

22:19

later you know if it's gonna be a year and a half

22:21

between two seasons to be like

22:23

the like a very bbc wales

22:25

a special as a christmas us officer

22:27

of black mirror and i can nothing and

22:30

it's a it's a very much stand alone with actually a a two

22:32

parter it comes from treme country

22:34

and the graphic novel series a sandman

22:36

and it's to stories to issues the dream of one thousand

22:39

cats and calliope a

22:41

both fan favorites and one of them animated

22:44

here so dream of thousand cats of the animated

22:46

episode in which they also pull

22:48

some of the voice cast from the sandman

22:51

audible theories of james mcavoy comes

22:53

in he plays morpheus in a

22:55

audible series but here he plays just another

22:58

cat and that one's beautifully

23:00

written beautifully animated but it's really calliope

23:02

which is also another really memorable

23:04

horrific story in the graphic novel

23:07

that's really well adapted with some

23:09

tweaks a in live action and

23:12

a really really pleased fan of

23:14

how that those issues

23:16

how do they were portrayed so

23:19

if of an episode or hopefully

23:22

the it's just in the interests of momentum

23:24

getting people to watch more sandman keeping

23:27

on top keeping those minutes a

23:29

a crude so that netflix will greenlight

23:31

never loses in any rush because

23:34

everyone else's canceling everything so

23:36

ah ah

23:39

there we get to it i only mention

23:42

if you fenner if you appreciate the behind the scenes

23:45

gallery stuff on disease on september

23:47

eighth other doing a behind the scenes

23:50

special on that the making of ob

23:52

was think they're calling it not

23:55

the gallery they they're calling it the

23:58

jet eyes return the as

24:00

the making of ob wan kenobi a full

24:02

documentary alright ill

24:04

beyond dizzy plus september eighth

24:07

and is a plus they same day the thor

24:09

love and dunder wasabi on discipline

24:11

that really am frozen sing along

24:13

which is the thing will be playing in your house

24:16

for the sing along happens

24:18

every night when the can sleep yeah

24:22

sort of lyrics on the phone i'm

24:25

okay stopping cancelled your

24:28

pores about more brothers discovery

24:31

and this time it's the animation world

24:33

that , cut back we had reports

24:35

earlier this week that ah a

24:37

bunch of episode summer hundreds

24:40

of episodes of sesame street were

24:42

taking off the streaming service as walls

24:44

entire show's not just taken

24:46

off israel max but the

24:48

all evidence of the shows production

24:51

from the u two channels or social media accounts also

24:53

removed and infinity train

24:55

which has been a fan favorites to really

24:58

really devastating for the creators of the shows

25:00

and fans and really

25:02

is he's the bad taste enough when smell but he

25:04

for shows that are easily

25:07

done we're

25:09

also losing the batman

25:13

the caped crusader ah which

25:15

is a bruce timm that

25:17

man show wish i

25:19

don't know how many times you can utters that

25:22

sends a bruce timm batman show

25:24

that cancel because

25:27

you know it was going to bring the cult following along

25:30

a , know somebody explain to me this way

25:32

is that you know some

25:34

of them murders here lake disney

25:36

acquiring the b b and

25:38

like all of those things wv

25:40

had accrued a bunch of dead so and discovery

25:42

acquires this whole

25:45

ecosystem they pull on that dad

25:47

and that's why they're lopping off the lake

25:50

these shows at the bottom because

25:54

it just like reduces a little

25:56

bit it's like a cut into how much

25:58

debt they after sir as at least a

26:01

by cutting them off so

26:03

my suspicion is even though in finney

26:05

train was awesome and some of these

26:07

shows that were talking about our

26:09

precious like sesame street a

26:12

lot of them are no name shows and they get

26:14

canceled because they won't have viewership the

26:16

different is is the forthcoming shows

26:18

being cancelled hurts

26:21

more i think because

26:24

would never see it and i can't imagine

26:26

bruce timm is going to jump at

26:29

working on a whole nother show ah

26:32

, getting shelved shelved there any

26:34

chance film saturday somewhere

26:36

else that is the planned or silver lining

26:39

hear that it's doesn't sound like it's

26:41

a tax write off words and be

26:43

and the virus will get some

26:45

of the air this by warner

26:47

brothers animation division or that's

26:49

working on this has his according

26:51

to reports is continuing

26:54

to work on less oh wow they

26:56

stop less rounds you other networks

26:58

so

26:59

you know it can be weird to see you know they have h

27:01

b o the one warner brothers and yet a show

27:03

like this might be like on netflix

27:06

maybe on parent plus who knows

27:09

who they want to pay for it certainly isn't cheap

27:11

or more taught him all the be creative name's involved

27:14

ranging from matt reeves he says

27:16

abrams her and prove breaker even

27:19

from , com excited things i

27:21

really want to see the so i want to even be

27:23

they they had a us had holiday special

27:26

ah merry little batman does about damian

27:28

wayne about home alone with damian wayne

27:31

the was a lot of exactly what i want to see ah

27:34

, be more that as well as a batmobile

27:37

loses we'll all my previous away

27:39

i'm and down for any purpose now

27:42

is how ah and the other animated

27:44

stuff there was was bunch

27:46

of looney tunes sauce now

27:49

i mean you know as didn't deserve for

27:51

new generation for the kids right there i'm

27:53

i'm not i'm i'm so heartbroken over it but it is it

27:55

is said that lot of those crate of seems

27:57

you know who are for know lot of her and the

28:00

and life into these projects

28:02

may never get to see them a air

28:04

or stream anywhere

28:09

where's his back into the the room the real

28:12

world of a of

28:14

a media live cinema

28:16

going felt a couple things

28:18

you hear that the second largest theater

28:20

chain the world's us filed for bankruptcy the

28:23

immoral

28:24

that would ya this is illegal yeah

28:26

the owners of regal and

28:28

they have noted that the

28:31

, from the pandemic are just

28:33

melting and they simply aren't getting

28:35

enough people back in the movie theaters

28:37

to make ah tim and

28:40

make him make business sense and again this and again

28:42

of those things where they crude a lot

28:44

of dead and now they're dead as

28:46

we service at higher interest rates blah blah

28:50

i here comes bankruptcy to reorganize

28:53

ah it's really sad and you

28:55

just have to hope that

28:57

we don't serve like will literally

29:00

losing movie theaters and i

29:02

and the cramps it's coming

29:04

you're in you know it it it's

29:06

it's one of the things i have a small sense

29:08

of his by don't go get to go to the movies a

29:10

lot but over the past weekend

29:13

we actually did go to the movie theaters

29:16

to watch for anniversary and anniversary guy

29:18

had our anniversary and weather was soccer

29:20

maverick on screen acts

29:23

and for and movie that yes it's own normally because

29:25

it is still going it's own theaters

29:27

after months after it's release or

29:29

it was a peaceful the theater it

29:32

wasn't empty by any means at least half full

29:34

at screen next on at saturday night

29:37

when i was a spit out of it i

29:39

, the differences is like

29:41

we still have high and blockbusters

29:43

that are doing well i'm

29:46

for periods of time but those like

29:48

middle movies that are like okay

29:51

people aren't going to those anymore they're

29:53

like disappearing really fast

29:55

for movie theaters and then even i'm

29:58

similar movies that are

29:59

the like fine like door eleven thunder

30:02

just don't have like the same kind

30:04

of like mojo in behind them to

30:06

keep packing the men like weeks

30:09

later sir like top gun

30:11

similar best movies of the year

30:13

you're still gonna see full theaters for

30:16

but i think it's like crappy moose knuckle

30:18

dragging down i don't think

30:21

easter sunday packed i'm in ah

30:23

with all apologies to do a cookie dough

30:26

coulee dam ,

30:28

past couple weeks yeah and

30:30

then allow the theater chains pre

30:32

pandemic sort of really relying on their business

30:34

model of the loss programs of the subscription

30:36

programs of know

30:39

him started spinning those off and putting that

30:41

into their forecasts of course keyboard

30:43

subscribing allows subscribing canceled my i canceled

30:45

e o the a list real

30:48

priced at three dollars a month

30:50

rapists or whether going to was three movies a

30:52

month or two imacs movies a month

30:54

to that point and those do feel like seasonal things

30:57

also were at i have some point

30:59

i'll go back to regular watching movies in the theater

31:01

more regularly but it's

31:03

, be something and like not summer or

31:05

winter season i'll subscribed to those the

31:08

to make the most out of it but there

31:10

is does not occur a regular full slate

31:14

it out the worst time it then a summer for

31:16

movies come out

31:17

why do you know dorm oh

31:19

i can entice you

31:21

the movie packs ah

31:25

whole movie as

31:28

the back literally

31:31

as back it has a beta opening

31:34

i that's going into

31:36

a open to anyone to request

31:38

in invade in two days

31:40

from one recording this so probably day

31:42

from when you listen to this they'll

31:45

be tears of there's no more unlimited

31:48

but you can have you

31:50

get movie credits to watch

31:52

a certain number of lobby of vermont oh

31:56

yea or nay they've partnered with

31:58

ah lake three quarters of the

32:01

movie theater chains in the country and

32:03

don't know what that means i'm but

32:05

it has to be a movie theater that accepts

32:07

credit cards which and which know

32:09

a movie theater it doesn't but my

32:13

sense is that there basically

32:16

telling you just discounted tickets by

32:19

damn a how larry is ah

32:22

just website with like a countdown clock

32:24

on it for like movie pass beat his

32:26

back it's just totally relying on

32:28

the on the named cassie

32:30

yeah this is a more how convoluted

32:33

movie pass was legit have

32:35

the of finance leads unsustainable

32:38

unlimited plan where you had though

32:41

i have cured seal location

32:43

tracked sir buy the tickets

32:45

you five when you're at this

32:47

close proximity to the theater right

32:49

before the movie opened our movies

32:51

was in a star playing like all these circumstances

32:54

and fine print and like their that's

32:57

the kind of salt scare me

32:59

their annual plan yet

33:01

, the source good necessity him in the wake

33:04

of the theater chains themselves night

33:07

due to please go to like the one big theater

33:09

they like the cineplex the like in their area

33:12

in if you wanna have wanna good deal on

33:14

watching movies on regular basis find

33:16

love description plan there's

33:18

no there's no place in this world for for movie class

33:21

i think

33:23

ah

33:25

there the place for

33:27

podcast on you to this

33:29

is like a weird move

33:32

that we're all kind of expecting for a long

33:34

time you tube as actually

33:37

created a podcast landing

33:39

page for a podcast

33:41

that are increasingly having am

33:44

video versions that are podcast who

33:46

would have who would do such a thing it's crazy

33:48

tongue i am no idea who would do such a thing

33:50

physicists or but now they have a landing page

33:53

for podcast on a platform

33:55

term you know obviously like surface

33:58

and recommend a new

33:59

yeah see you

34:01

this like the beginning of them making

34:03

a strong play in into podcast

34:06

that would you know potentially

34:08

challenge apple and spotify

34:10

and spotify one player that can do it it's youtube

34:13

they never gone into podcasts it

34:15

also feels like a why didn't they do this five

34:18

years ago why would this happened now

34:20

i'm and i wonder if this is just

34:22

trying just like swords were

34:25

there bringing so many

34:27

more have used to channels that way if

34:29

they're trying to increase of you

34:31

count and monetization for creators

34:34

that are looking to

34:36

just create extra revenue streams to

34:38

keep them away from competitors like tic

34:40

dot is

34:43

it's a stretch for

34:45

the definition of podcast what

34:47

he for not delivering audio

34:50

files on rss feed from people

34:52

go listen to on a bus

34:54

the train in their cars replacing

34:57

essentially terrestrial radio

35:00

this is a video feed car a podcast

35:02

was just kind of looks like you tube and

35:05

like it doesn't look any different like

35:08

any time and organization

35:10

like google does something like a

35:13

you know on a platform like you tube at that

35:15

goes after project is potentially

35:17

a big deal i wonder if we'll get

35:19

like some sort of announcement

35:22

, they unveil the new hardware

35:25

are coming up like they'll be some sort of lakes

35:27

watch integration with with the new

35:29

you to podcasts or something like that or

35:31

a new subscription service or falls under

35:33

you to premium i'm

35:36

but i'm think it's worth keeping email

35:38

it just has a

35:40

big company try something does not necessarily

35:42

mean smear a good idea

35:45

or in a stick around to sometimes is

35:47

on try soft case in point

35:50

amazon has announced that for

35:52

amazon prime streaming they're developing

35:54

a show called

35:56

ring nation

35:58

in the ring cameras

35:59

amazon owns no no

36:02

no reality show

36:04

the takes footage from ring cameras

36:07

presumably that that

36:09

people sign off on the other they take notice

36:11

of all the viral you know twitter

36:13

videos and you tube videos of people sharing

36:16

their there's home

36:18

security cameras and randoms funny

36:20

stuff happening from

36:22

wedding proposals sir they're

36:26

crackers don't off so random sauce

36:28

still now that they can compile

36:30

it into some type of america's

36:33

funniest home videos style so

36:36

hosted by wanda sykes on amazon

36:39

prime some time the near future i'm

36:41

not happy about that i think personally

36:43

either

36:45

partially because somebody

36:47

pooped on my step the other day yeah

36:49

am as well and the milla night

36:52

and greener some babies and guess

36:54

what that was recorder yeah this yeah this

36:56

can be a good show of movie and

36:58

that isis it wasn't a good

37:00

looks i'm not excited

37:02

really animals military

37:05

ruler enjoy this enjoy this surveillance

37:08

the mets america's funniest

37:10

videos this is awful know

37:13

it's all it's it's awful it is

37:15

it's not a good idea u p s behaving

37:17

badly fedex behaving badly whereas

37:19

my steam deck all of categories

37:22

for ring nation think about the

37:24

sound effects you get to doing

37:26

in post production on this like

37:28

enough for a package bounces off like

37:30

nucleotide he my ring ring

37:32

foley so brings in a again slowly

37:35

sauce what is

37:37

the world we live in in

37:39

florida down burn it down

37:41

ah now not not into it and

37:44

i did i hope is

37:46

a joke our being ponce i

37:48

hope is lie either have with fallen for some

37:51

some terrible job because yeah

37:53

this is this is not a there's

37:55

not a the i'm looking forward to it's an m

37:57

g m dot com

37:59

or

37:59

it's another corporate website is

38:02

a real thing hellboy

38:04

all right

38:06

the horror continue lox ah

38:08

or know what we have a plex is what

38:11

we have of next this week is

38:13

of course cilic i know this is

38:15

adams convention those run ah

38:17

for past couple years and yeas

38:20

be salt and valley comic on that

38:22

was hosted was and it's

38:24

back in san jose this saturday

38:27

and sunday ah and

38:29

the test the team will be down there for sure you'll be

38:31

there

38:32

i will be there in cause play

38:35

if things go well or looking

38:37

like myself of things down

38:38

i'll be there and

38:40

tested will be there were axes and a hopefully

38:43

do a tested a meta that

38:46

with some of the tested contributors so

38:48

i everyone from saw on

38:51

t than shore

38:54

mel people we've seen on you

38:56

tube channel probably be at tested booth

38:58

on saturday you want to see

39:00

pictures or hang out with sat with us

39:02

i'll be hang out throughout the whole weekend of

39:05

and they'll be lot of other stuff going on the

39:07

weekend but ah

39:10

no better person to talk about it then

39:12

jan shaft her who's been

39:14

running be maker verse portion

39:17

of the so so what you're you're now is

39:19

composition aca shorn i had with chen

39:21

as she is now forty hours forty

39:24

hours away today's away from

39:26

having to be there to set up so much

39:28

on sigma the

39:30

we're so thrilled to have on the podcast

39:33

this week ah were familiar

39:35

face and voice to test family chance

39:37

after chance ah absurdist

39:40

to grab you a minute like a right before

39:43

silicone in the weeks

39:45

leading up to it but are you doing

39:47

you know a little bit crazy

39:50

as to the expect in a few days leading

39:52

up to a con maybe in a different way than people

39:55

are used to finishing their cars plays i'm

39:57

like putting the finishing touches on all

39:59

of that program

39:59

staff and i've that

40:01

all sorts of material being shipped to my

40:04

house my neighbors think that i'm like prepping

40:06

for some kind of a big event

40:08

because it's all coming here to my to my living

40:11

room ah yeah it's been

40:13

we're excited and excited think everybody's

40:15

a little bit the buzzing

40:18

to get back to the kind seen

40:21

firstly this one they have since it's

40:23

or local wine it's adam so that he has

40:25

run it's ah it feels exists is

40:28

there the ramp up sir things going

40:30

back solemn little bit normal and snazzy

40:32

said if your neighbors you like your

40:34

going up some epic about it does kind of

40:36

feel like an epic event based on where

40:39

we seen of the programming so that stuff

40:41

and oh under your your

40:43

guidance and your direction he give us

40:45

a sense of what's what's make what for the what

40:47

is the maker verse portion

40:49

of silicone and what should people

40:51

expect i if they just think

40:53

of it as a pop concert events

40:55

yeah so i guess we're we're

40:57

out with silicone is sort of of it

40:59

feels like sort of a hybrid between a typical

41:02

comicon type of audience combined

41:04

with maker faire so it's like as a cross section

41:07

of those two events and

41:09

without

41:10

describing all three of us just right now

41:12

play our lives as the intersection of

41:14

those

41:14

the rain the middle of

41:17

the venn diagram of those three the

41:20

angry

41:21

come together at this at this event on

41:23

an adam is that a creative director so

41:25

he really wanted to infuse the maker element

41:28

into that existing sort of cosplay

41:30

pop culture fi fi realm

41:32

and so he brought me and the kind of

41:35

over see and organize all of the planning

41:37

for what we're calling the savage makers

41:40

which is an area it's pretty

41:42

large it's like five

41:45

thousand square foot section foot section

41:47

show floor it'll be like a meager

41:49

space a table than a stage

41:51

and workshops and gonna be a little bit different

41:53

than what you would typically be at account

41:56

third out like what kind of workshops are you

41:58

are we talking about that are in

42:00

be at at at the makers because i

42:02

can imagine you get gone

42:05

a million different directions with something like that

42:07

there are we gonna vom we reached out to all

42:09

the people that we've know in our extended

42:12

tested family and folks that have you know com

42:14

and and videos before so we

42:16

have an amazing list of makers

42:18

that are contributing and me go

42:21

they a cover a wide variety of different medium

42:23

so it's like the you know maybe

42:25

some makers cut players

42:28

prop maker is from industry folks

42:30

who do an embroidery

42:32

and textile work ah pretty

42:35

printing laser cutting so it's a it's a very

42:37

wide range of skills and

42:39

the workshops that we have really roughly the

42:42

diversity of different mediums that people are working

42:45

not just people we've worked before

42:47

but people who we've admired

42:49

and a wash and followed a

42:52

very channels their

42:54

projects it kind of like of wish fulfilment

42:56

getting this huge like mitterrand

42:58

recent memory society as adam often cause

43:01

it's emeka it's feel like it will that like

43:03

selfish because it's like an easy way for me to hang

43:05

out with these people that i guess

43:07

i follow and people that we work with work with

43:09

seen maybe and in a couple years

43:11

and years of place that they're all get a conveniently

43:14

be

43:14

totally m and because it's been such a long

43:16

time since at people got to get together in

43:19

this way i feel like it's gonna be

43:21

a big extended family reunion

43:23

of other people that we've been dying to catch up with

43:26

and see what they're working on arm and

43:28

it's like you know it's a it's a lot of familiar faces

43:30

it's like i told tallying in

43:32

beverley down in and paint sabic her

43:34

and wealth fund

43:37

davis davis be there i'm just looking at my guest

43:39

list right now props the history

43:41

builder an like i mean a

43:44

lot of the people that that people know of

43:46

our but also we have a couple

43:48

of other makers that are sort of on up

43:50

and coming and i think bring something really interesting

43:52

to the table on we have some folks that do

43:55

textiles and embroidery we have

43:58

some more traditional like wood working

44:00

folks that i like to make stuff guy the

44:02

wanna do a bunch of fan you know

44:04

like they don't start our staff in our gdp

44:07

is ah so we really tried it to

44:09

get a cross section of have averaged

44:11

out there

44:12

as an avid fan of bob's

44:14

channel i like to mix of he's not just the stories

44:16

fan i think that the underselling it differ

44:19

a little bit is there's some

44:21

on your life i

44:23

will gotta hang out with this person i'm so excited

44:26

to see them at the con like this

44:28

has been like a rough few years

44:30

for everyone and so many

44:32

of my conference like people i would only

44:34

see a comic conventions i haven't seen

44:37

in years is there somebody on that list for you

44:40

oh i'm all it's like asking me

44:42

to pick a favorite

44:43

yeah you are being

44:45

ah

44:47

i'm really i'm really excited to reconnect with severally

44:50

and sophie on they both in virtual

44:52

workshop leading up to

44:54

silicon and they're both they're such amazing

44:57

creators and we have we have good report

44:59

or but i haven't gotten the hang out with them and person

45:02

hardly at all i'm so i'm i'm

45:04

really excited to hang out with them i think also

45:06

just like having everybody in the same same

45:09

the ring off of each other like doing

45:11

panels and hanging out afterwards

45:13

that the part that for me

45:15

personally like the event and the attendees

45:18

are going to have an amazing time we put together really cool

45:20

shell but i'm personally stoked

45:23

to just like v in a room with all these people

45:26

labour fight about sharing with they've been working

45:28

on together it's gonna be like

45:30

the my own simone vs are some

45:32

out yeah i , seen some

45:34

own and so long successes

45:37

that's totally true and like i did

45:39

lists of a million people as

45:41

the props to history for me as somebody

45:43

that has watched his stuff on

45:46

i'm on tic toc and

45:48

ah it's has been a fan and he posted like

45:50

a tease her of bringing some props

45:52

from fifth element including as

45:55

the have won the stones

45:57

like a number of things i'm always

45:59

it it to like i kind of want him

46:01

to just a lecturer at me for like an hour

46:04

that's what i'm hoping for out of that i'm

46:06

were also in the middle con seasons like emerald

46:08

city comicon was a week ago dragging

46:11

cons and in the in the next week so

46:14

, at lake showed off just

46:16

an amazing cosplay this medal

46:18

studied causeway at emerald city

46:21

ah and i have like questions for

46:23

sophie for excited to to

46:25

see her and then

46:27

i don't have this is true

46:29

the all don't get mad at me if this is true the

46:31

old been like handing out

46:34

greedy printers in my parking lots

46:36

of a fellow past few months i

46:38

wonder if he's gonna bring one down and just

46:40

like

46:41

and when out in some parking garage

46:43

and san jose

46:44

and it didn't matter of ah

46:47

, i know that i'm then

46:50

of michael korea props the history

46:52

is it going to be doing a bunch of panels

46:54

so he will have lots of opportunities

46:56

to both share his knowledge but also

46:59

probe other makers about

47:01

their prop know and which has been to be pretty cool ah

47:03

and sophie as a as far as i know

47:05

she's bringing that gudrun costume which

47:08

i've been following online for four

47:10

years and season working season it and it cannot

47:12

wait to see it in person

47:14

i think that's when the most exciting parts of the sell excess

47:16

is the fall is easy i saw ramp up

47:19

he like you know a beverly working

47:21

on her and her june

47:24

still suits costumer that

47:26

she's and seizing that are

47:28

on instagram and twitter and so i think

47:30

that's pupil teasing and also a lot leone

47:33

be projects that they may have for videos out about

47:35

as as year that they're bringing

47:37

smart him props and things like that

47:40

does that nice northwest maker contingent

47:43

but everly and everly and and in sofia

47:45

so corky can embezzle up there and are

47:48

irrational as well right because we have we have

47:50

the hack smith coming and benny

47:52

also right canadians

47:56

yeah both of them are coming up with some other

47:58

teams and

47:59

then gonna had a boost sales with his cell

48:02

phone chain mail for you know film armory

48:04

ah yes the other thing

48:06

too that you mention kishore is i'm

48:08

the prop that obese people are bringing

48:11

were were doing this thing called a

48:13

major museum which is

48:15

a bunch of their

48:17

screen years or prototypes

48:19

for screen used prob that

48:22

are going to be on display where people can get

48:24

up close to them like inside of a display case

48:26

but you can get you know really close look

48:28

at it the the texture

48:30

see the little you know makers mark

48:33

on it or which i'm really excited about because

48:35

it's so rare you get an opportunity to see stuff

48:37

like that imperfect

48:39

we're we only sure video content eighty when

48:42

i even shoot for today so this is gonna

48:44

be much better than than even for k i

48:46

say without him rams bringing his props

48:48

since as a bus flexion of

48:50

his projects ryan from our team

48:53

has his can be driving down with a bunch that stuff

48:55

as a tested boots so tested will have a

48:58

ginger oil anything that it

49:00

in your brain nice adams

49:02

collection is not a small collection as soon

49:04

as i say it's ah

49:07

i really don't wanna say moment though there will be making costumes

49:10

their the mix of costumes i am i'm

49:12

so lane and boxes of things

49:14

are cases of things i'm

49:17

young things large and small ah

49:19

and the

49:20

i know nothing i could write and suddenly

49:22

all that this the description for the label

49:24

solidly care

49:26

so in love i i

49:28

will go on the record and say i hope the

49:30

hack smith does not actually bring anything

49:32

to the everything he has a super dangerous

49:34

so or heavy i'm

49:36

like a tungsten the

49:39

he had a a tungsten milk meal near

49:41

is not the way to check easily

49:44

into a into bag itself

49:46

yeah we'd be try to talk him into bringing

49:49

his actual lightsaber like the real

49:51

nice agree that works with this

49:53

ah but if it's been bringing

49:55

the whole apparatus of the propane

49:58

and the torch lake into they can

49:59

funnier and plate and

50:02

like things like you know the power loader

50:04

obviously like you're not you're not going to ship

50:06

that too

50:07

the california so ah yeah i

50:09

think she's gonna be there kind of like absorbing

50:12

are participating in some pals and contest

50:15

judging and things like that

50:16

in our ,

50:18

how for small how are you doing you're

50:20

like me as a recording this lulea the

50:22

week of so kind and

50:25

putting things together and

50:27

, it all together and in the make a verse

50:29

area how are you doing for the light bleed

50:32

are you getting at is jen sector

50:34

do you remember when tested met her see

50:37

a to produce like work on an event on

50:39

the white house lawn this is

50:41

this is nothing

50:43

however i was like

50:45

are ice breaker like i was my first time

50:47

working with the team was in that

50:49

the the whirlwind of all of that ah

50:52

yeah , i i don't

50:54

i mean i'm sure everybody can relate to this in one way

50:56

or another but lake that nervous

50:58

energy excitement were like when

51:01

were lay down to go to sleep at night like i'm like

51:03

have to keep writing things down because my brain

51:05

is to sell dying and as soon as i wake up

51:07

in the morning i'm like okay i'm like need to

51:09

start ritalin the same like almost before even

51:11

get out of bed like my brain is just fully

51:13

absorbed in it that's hard

51:15

to think about anything else or even the

51:18

rest because i'm i'm like that

51:21

up for for this coming weekend

51:23

are you building anything i know i'll only

51:25

talks like a six month ago

51:28

now are so you're thinking of building

51:30

something for the makers

51:32

area are you finding time to do a personal project

51:35

so

51:35

i'm trying so i

51:38

actually you can probably relate to this that

51:40

this hadn't ordered l ordered d strips online

51:42

in like oh no three or four years maybe

51:45

the

51:46

then they i ordered a whole bunch i ordered

51:48

like a couple different varieties the

51:50

cop out for this sign that i want to make

51:53

and they are so much

51:55

crap year than they used to be playing

51:58

density of the penguins it's like every

52:00

penny inches there's another i was like what

52:02

is this like i am i don't know how be

52:05

able to get the lighting that i need and handsome

52:07

china lake okay i mean i'm bringing

52:09

a bunch of coffee in certain on bunch i should say

52:11

i'm bringing my marie antoinette oh

52:13

it's a big

52:14

where he gonna bring

52:16

gonna to

52:17

that's a good point actually thank you

52:19

very minute because i totally forgot the fact that

52:22

yeah i think beverly

52:24

is bringing the be hella on

52:27

a lake so one to very large

52:29

had had pieces are and

52:31

and i was gonna bring adam was really interested in seeing

52:34

and folks process like there

52:36

they're prototypes or interactions

52:39

of thing with the people can seem a breathless up close

52:41

i'm gonna bring the and a lineup of all

52:43

my little haunted house you had a tape

52:46

from the former more

52:47

they are a word yeah

52:48

yeah i'm gonna bring those i knew raymond data

52:51

is bringing some apollo

52:53

glove mold flake showing his

52:55

process of discovery with that remember to see those

52:57

up close

52:59

yes or a lot of things that are

53:02

already completed i have

53:04

about there are no less than

53:06

forty eight hours until i have to leave to go set

53:08

up a shows the we'll see what else

53:10

i can pull together

53:11

sprint oh my gosh are

53:13

you putting your costs i'm an american or

53:16

the me you will find were around or mannequin

53:18

i ring mannequin others

53:20

i would an arena

53:22

where with the option

53:25

yeah perhaps i mean maybe

53:28

i could just go do a quick change in the

53:30

bathroom between activities and between

53:32

panel there's a lot of in the schedule

53:34

is pat flight back to back the

53:36

whole plan so okay

53:39

maybe i can sneak away and and change into

53:41

marie antoinette

53:43

and norm have a you what are you excited

53:45

about

53:46

i'm honestly just as the see the people

53:48

i think that's i'm ,

53:50

ike ike we're doing some filming

53:53

of course so from you're listening if

53:55

you see you know we'll

53:57

be joss us first silicones

54:00

joshua need our team this year

54:02

i a previous years now are other of the

54:04

refers of have have filmed it's

54:06

no counter and joey had

54:08

joey's actually nothing to be there for say it's as

54:10

i his birthday weekend so he's

54:12

a he's he's taking a small trip the

54:15

family ah but josh it'll be

54:17

it'll be fun breaking him into silicone

54:19

and filming whatever may happen

54:22

ah you know if adam he

54:25

usually does it conventions are which

54:27

baby while be the case will

54:29

be alpha testers booth so we're going to have

54:31

your stuff from assess it projects

54:33

that we've done the past that absorbent most

54:35

absorbent be hang around there are think i might

54:38

be inviting some were friends over the booth

54:40

as you some filming there as well so again it's thrilling

54:43

that catching up and seeing people on like we

54:45

haven't been super occluded like i know

54:47

it's a subset of a a silicone lizards

54:49

and adam and the agenda new and and organizers

54:51

projects and we the dunes and a little bit of

54:53

our own thing on tested and but really

54:56

feels like these last three weeks or so

54:58

i things are come to head and we've been

55:00

hearing more about you know what's going on so khan

55:02

and and getting more involved and

55:05

ah which is the say as i'm looking at the

55:07

guess less and looking at the schedule

55:10

and like the light it every time

55:12

i oh my gosh i didn't realize this person can be there

55:14

and a religious reasons gonna be there i did a fine

55:16

how to catch up with them so not can bring the family

55:18

i agree that the kids

55:21

get the way of catching up so i

55:23

did i edited by the time and you leave out i

55:25

thought that the i read essays now evil

55:27

tesla hold the baby i'm gonna go in southwest

55:30

episode with bill or here ah ah

55:34

if is and i'm most excited about yes

55:37

the feeling of the caused

55:39

by anxiety is in the pit of my stomach

55:42

again i've missed that feeling

55:44

it's been a couple years ah

55:46

and i'm sure mine is gonna spectacularly

55:48

feel but i'm going to have fun doing it

55:50

and hello hi

55:52

no no

55:55

, see any means snap it

55:57

is by no means

55:59

is it

55:59

the sort of incognito you're going to

56:02

look at me and be like oh yeah that makes sense

56:04

that tracks one hundred percent ah

56:07

but the year enough people have

56:09

seen me and cause leave before i don't have

56:12

a ah an eye towards

56:14

perfection i have a fit when

56:16

i towards something else so ah

56:18

i am i excited just walk around by

56:21

i have to acknowledge cel lingering

56:24

nasser dot not there in person

56:27

leave that to your imagination a

56:29

and then as just an uber fan

56:32

of the expanse having stephen straight

56:34

there was chatham and sure a

56:36

dose hulu a fair to

56:39

a to talk and the and believe like

56:41

some of the show runners are runners

56:43

are are in for that session i i

56:45

did a panel with them at dragon con

56:48

a few years ago a and they're just

56:50

like all super nice delightful

56:52

people are in so

56:54

a and that show meant a lot to

56:56

to so many people that

56:59

that are you know time to do enjoy any other

57:02

the pop culture aspects outside of the makers

57:04

ah i hope so i'm actually

57:06

really interested to see filled tippett

57:08

screening are not happening friday

57:10

evening which i don't know how many tickets

57:12

or less but there are ticket for lot on

57:15

his grinning mad god which is like a

57:17

thirty year long you know

57:19

project in the making which kate has worked on

57:21

and i think sean has also worked on third

57:23

place a , of people have

57:26

to have a seat in that and it looks looks

57:29

and creepy and fantastic

57:31

so i'm excited to see that we'll see

57:34

what else i'm able to sneak away and

57:36

and get to enjoy at the can

57:39

subtly the can with like working

57:42

in a van and planning an event is when

57:44

you're the host of the party kind of you don't always

57:46

get to enjoy in the same way as

57:48

reveal

57:49

though true so true i'll tell you if i

57:51

sort of fill our we don't feel

57:53

for are a little bit now but i first

57:56

met fill ten years ago and there is

57:58

video on channel

58:00

of the very first interview i did with fill

58:03

out included him talking mad god

58:05

and it is fill ten years ago at me ten

58:07

years ago ah is super

58:09

awkward and embarrassing

58:12

i i i tried watching it i couldn't get through

58:14

it of but it was him talking

58:16

about this idea of at that point is

58:19

still you know in progress mad

58:21

god and that we didn't know each other i'd

58:23

been the tippett studio for smother anything before

58:25

but it was him promoting a kickstarter

58:28

or early version of mad god

58:30

which was funded and so this

58:32

is a nice ten year or

58:35

every union and anniversary

58:37

of that

58:38

i don't know where they now

58:40

yeah exactly wow

58:42

, a while you have like two days

58:45

left by carefully thank you for just even giving

58:47

us fifteen twenty minutes of your time

58:50

to talk about so icon but icon

58:52

guess we'll see you at the so

58:54

right like yeah you'll be running around

58:56

maybe in costume maybe not allowed

58:59

is that you're looking for jan just look for me

59:01

yelling bird on a cast of never

59:03

specificity alligator on

59:06

a phone alligator nonsense morning is

59:08

at slight dislike you know air traffic controller

59:11

yeah yeah i'll be there hair wilds

59:13

all sweaty very excited you

59:15

can find me to make a very on there's a ton

59:17

of workshops to like free stuff

59:20

lot loads of free south us available or

59:22

and then there's also more intensive

59:24

workshops where you get kind of like hands on attention

59:27

with the instructor so you can

59:29

sign up for that on the the website in advance there's only

59:32

a handful of seats two hundred and try to keep us pretty

59:34

small so call to action

59:36

figure who find the workshop on

59:38

and sign up for those and we hope to see there

59:40

there's gonna be so much

59:43

the much maker

59:44

yeah free to think your teeth into really

59:47

excited

59:47

yeah and then summer school run those workshops

59:50

i know they've had no experience

59:52

now running them in person also virtually

59:54

so but this is like again the combination

59:56

of all if they feel they finally we can

59:58

have a real or for

1:00:00

size for attendance

1:00:03

and of maker conventional because we have only kind of

1:00:06

maker faire maker faire it's like the thing that is

1:00:08

is you know that the scan the else in the rumors

1:00:10

that we haven't had maker faire in the bay area

1:00:13

sent to earth of the lockdown the pandemic

1:00:15

and while this isn't exactly maker faire

1:00:17

it captures i think a lot less spirits and

1:00:20

fill that space for a lot of people

1:00:23

mostly for us who use i don't have a youth

1:00:25

use that as a place to meet up and catch

1:00:27

up with that the people we love

1:00:29

yeah where we're very aware that

1:00:32

there is a torch to be carried and we're we're

1:00:34

not and like out as items that were not trained to take

1:00:36

the place or because nobody can take the place of maker

1:00:38

faire are just some kind of adjacent

1:00:40

and embracing that same community so

1:00:44

awesome and people i think can go a

1:00:46

find tickets a silicon

1:00:49

s j dot com and

1:00:51

find out more information about who be there

1:00:53

are which days when panels are going

1:00:55

on a boy he can also go and buy tickets

1:00:58

day of as well right and walk up and and

1:01:00

and and san jose convention center

1:01:03

a vagina thank you for

1:01:05

sparing some time precious time this week

1:01:07

joining , this week and good

1:01:10

luck he was young them sleep

1:01:12

hydrate yeah get ready

1:01:14

to put that costume on

1:01:15

i don't have a point but i'll work

1:01:17

on the hydration part it's so good to see

1:01:20

that

1:01:22

it so thank you jane again

1:01:24

for spank them for presses

1:01:27

time leading up to look on that side with

1:01:29

us are it got me more excited about the so

1:01:31

sure i simply to catch

1:01:33

up with people the

1:01:36

same people who can be good

1:01:39

sure

1:01:40

garcon you don't make me sign anything make

1:01:43

, suicide all the things you know as he

1:01:46

can a kid out sir ah

1:01:48

we've a local farmer's market in our neighborhood

1:01:50

and brands our podcast listener and

1:01:53

ah said big fan of the so and bumped into

1:01:55

you at a at a thick

1:01:57

on a plane writers yeah

1:02:01

but we get we applaud jealous podcast listeners

1:02:03

everywhere and yeah

1:02:06

gotta get hangovers so it on six picture were

1:02:08

not a record episode there wouldn't wanna set up

1:02:10

to so fun definitely let

1:02:13

us know

1:02:15

so if they are so before

1:02:17

out of this episode they want

1:02:19

to talk about a final few things

1:02:21

first of all were not have a formal vr minutes

1:02:24

but gotta acknowledge the

1:02:26

a third and that the meme of fixation

1:02:28

of horizon world's maybe

1:02:31

this like the most attention that

1:02:33

matters horizon world's has gotten

1:02:35

a ever which was when mark

1:02:37

zuckerberg posted a screenshot inside

1:02:40

to announce the lots of rising world's it

1:02:42

over and some overseas or ago them france

1:02:44

and spain and

1:02:47

the screen capture which you know in

1:02:49

headset screen capture wasn't

1:02:51

so great it , so great

1:02:54

so that wasn't clear to me i thought it was just a

1:02:56

bad photoshop was it actually in

1:02:58

headset increase it looked like

1:03:00

it was in headset everything from resolution

1:03:02

of a m to the

1:03:05

you know the kind of you know get the move your head around

1:03:07

the captain to like a screenshot a

1:03:09

but it was his avatar in front of

1:03:11

to objects they are imported into

1:03:14

horizon worlds or may be created who cries and world

1:03:16

because there is a sandbox so

1:03:18

eiffel tower and have

1:03:21

a famous plumbing in madrid

1:03:23

and i want to say and

1:03:26

and you

1:03:28

know if people have not been

1:03:30

in vr they don't know that

1:03:32

one of the strength of vr is like motion

1:03:35

in animation and is the or three

1:03:37

dimensions and immersive miss and things

1:03:40

at all get lost in

1:03:42

however

1:03:43

low res we

1:03:46

like screenshot assess assess as

1:03:48

i'll tell you what a i was most bomb

1:03:51

about like people are having fun with the means

1:03:53

like una like i'm no problems

1:03:55

with that i was more bummed it's

1:03:57

like people making fun of

1:03:59

like low poly v our environment

1:04:02

cr it doesn't matter like

1:04:04

i've had more fun in rec room which

1:04:06

looks terrible by all

1:04:08

measures then a lot of the

1:04:10

art things because of the presence

1:04:13

it's created there and

1:04:15

at as he like this was like one of

1:04:17

those lake people missing

1:04:19

like what like

1:04:22

is actually possible in vr by

1:04:24

focusing on image quality

1:04:26

yeah i'm sure it is a is a medium

1:04:29

and to as we've tried to communicate in the power

1:04:31

of vr and videos and moving images

1:04:34

moving pictures it's still fails

1:04:36

to really capture of the immersive

1:04:39

this in a sense of presence and the connectiveness

1:04:41

likely the all the network benefits

1:04:43

like if you're talking about the i think

1:04:45

the well i'm in

1:04:47

, upload vr posted a screen

1:04:50

grab from the reviews of

1:04:52

the new mini golf map the labyrinth mini

1:04:55

golf world map and he

1:04:57

had one review which was like

1:04:59

this is garbage it looks terrible it

1:05:01

looks like you know it was the or

1:05:04

dated graphics and and

1:05:06

then right below that another like five

1:05:08

star of you saying this game brought me closer

1:05:10

to my brother than ever brian that's like

1:05:12

that's the that's the dichotomy of your an hour

1:05:15

yes yes it is like it is

1:05:17

still were or so in the early days and yes

1:05:19

his own only so me pixels and so eager

1:05:21

to push like higher frame rates twice

1:05:24

the twice the imagery plus tracking

1:05:26

and all this extra rascal a

1:05:28

needs a vr on a mobile

1:05:31

since we're mobile device and in the quest to

1:05:33

at the same time when you get from that

1:05:35

in asia multiplayer

1:05:38

environment or is this is

1:05:40

credible sense of connection that

1:05:43

you really can't get can't eerie

1:05:45

really don't get as

1:05:47

much of i think in the traditional

1:05:49

multiplayer game and

1:05:53

that's the big bet like that's why the

1:05:55

money has been invested into thing likes

1:05:58

horizon horizon world ah

1:06:00

his life you like that that vision that

1:06:02

the early stepped into this digital

1:06:04

space it's not second

1:06:07

life him low might look like second life for

1:06:09

the fact that you feel like you're actually

1:06:11

there and can make eye contact and in

1:06:13

future headsets with eye tracking and face tracking

1:06:15

says have this real incredible

1:06:18

sense of being in the same space

1:06:20

as someone that space for you can

1:06:22

generate objects and can be really any environments

1:06:25

like that's a powerful thing that and for

1:06:27

so he doesn't get really captured in i

1:06:29

mean provide

1:06:31

when grab

1:06:32

i'm in i'm not so thrilled with like

1:06:34

the the kind of response either

1:06:36

the i'm the the capitulate because

1:06:40

it's visually should because like

1:06:41

the

1:06:43

mulder posted a follow up saying

1:06:45

yes we've knows you know is this

1:06:48

can be better and the here's a taste of have

1:06:50

a working on and then they put up up i

1:06:52

was a work in progress environments

1:06:55

as well as what we got a

1:06:57

few federation of their avatar system

1:07:00

and yes it looks better a better lighting

1:07:02

up the on that were more realistic but

1:07:04

at the same time i think there was a social

1:07:06

media posts from the artist that worked on that

1:07:08

one saying that they spent like

1:07:11

a month working on that

1:07:13

avatar whether that specific avatar where

1:07:15

the average our systems but

1:07:18

the me that's not what i witnessed they

1:07:20

want either like because i don't you don't

1:07:22

wanna see earlier of a metaverse were

1:07:24

avatars need you know professional

1:07:26

graphic artist the spent a month working

1:07:29

on they should gonna be in of easy

1:07:31

generated with your your

1:07:33

traditional slider based system or some type

1:07:35

of know photo recognition

1:07:37

system and he should be a balance

1:07:39

between accessibility and also fidelity

1:07:42

yeah it that's a harper

1:07:45

like you're trying to sell and experience

1:07:47

then you're trying to do it with imagery

1:07:50

and that and people are going to criticize

1:07:54

the imagery if it doesn't

1:07:56

evoke the quality of experience

1:07:59

that they want this is like it though

1:08:01

it's a really tough balancer to

1:08:04

generate

1:08:05

i also say like as

1:08:08

these avatars and as characters

1:08:10

get more they'll

1:08:12

for lack of better phrase soto real realistic

1:08:14

in terms of the polygons from to the lighting

1:08:17

the expectation from the users

1:08:19

is that it's can the enemy and behave

1:08:22

more realistically as well

1:08:25

when you have a lower graphically

1:08:28

the lot of for

1:08:30

accurate representation of an avatar

1:08:32

right than you can get away with some of the

1:08:34

tricks of the avatar systems currently use

1:08:37

because they don't have eye tracking because

1:08:40

there's no exact mouth tracking face tracking

1:08:42

so they're not playing some keep

1:08:44

alive animations and they're using an

1:08:47

ai generated speech

1:08:49

says animation algorithms

1:08:52

to to animate the avatars which they

1:08:54

can you can get away , in

1:08:56

a thing that looks more like rec room or

1:08:58

horizon world's currently a but

1:09:01

if it's going to look more like a pixar

1:09:03

animated character or

1:09:05

disney animation character then you are indeed

1:09:07

complex rigging and you're gonna need

1:09:10

you know ways to a better

1:09:12

track the face and better attract the eyes

1:09:14

and better m t convert

1:09:16

the real facial expressions that people

1:09:18

are making while wearing headsets headsets

1:09:21

an animated character which is not easy to

1:09:23

jungle to yeah i'm

1:09:25

not sure photo real is on my like top

1:09:27

five things that i'm interested in in

1:09:30

vr i dunno about you and

1:09:32

be kind of challenges that you list

1:09:35

out like there's compute

1:09:37

and there's and tracking

1:09:40

and rendering problems that aren't going to

1:09:42

be solved in the near near term so like

1:09:44

photo realism is not a reality

1:09:47

yeah they , that's a that's

1:09:49

stopping in the world of vr

1:09:52

as well as oh saudi

1:09:54

confirming that ps vr to having

1:09:57

a market in early twenty twenty three

1:09:59

so not gonna be a holiday

1:10:01

release the sheer maybe all

1:10:03

time to get in on a ps five

1:10:06

i am now that we're seeing more

1:10:08

p s five availability like sony

1:10:11

actually kept it in stock for almost a home

1:10:13

day on their website to the south

1:10:15

of a it's crazy talk

1:10:18

i'm wondering like this can be like have a

1:10:21

really big thing like i don't think we're

1:10:23

, in there any or and

1:10:25

like and and like really

1:10:28

pushing the limits of the capability

1:10:30

within the ps five and like this really

1:10:33

push it and push we are

1:10:35

out to a much better

1:10:37

user base and you it the

1:10:39

pcr with totally

1:10:41

good to oh yeah good it

1:10:43

was like an enjoyable system so i'm excited

1:10:45

about our p a c or to i think

1:10:48

quibble about a million things that aren't

1:10:50

in the hardware that you would want i'm

1:10:53

but i think the mass adoption and

1:10:55

with availability appear size coming

1:10:57

online i have a hard time

1:10:59

complaining about

1:11:01

there and give more time to those developers thirds

1:11:03

was young have a great

1:11:05

suite of launch titles i

1:11:07

hope really backward compatibility with

1:11:10

existing ps vr games

1:11:12

the sidewalk

1:11:14

last fall to notes little

1:11:16

, of sad news

1:11:19

or brian oh no who are we

1:11:21

had no use the ceo and founder of your facts

1:11:23

the replica the collectibles company they did

1:11:25

the stores helmets and most

1:11:27

recently ah were the ones

1:11:29

who showed off the animatronic

1:11:32

grow grew at comic con i'd known

1:11:34

brian for many years now super

1:11:36

friendly is always joy that chat

1:11:38

with and catch up with at places like comicon

1:11:41

ah he passed away and just

1:11:44

about a week ago so

1:11:46

super sad i think and

1:11:48

don't know what's gonna happen said he affects ah

1:11:50

by by a big long

1:11:53

time member of the source fan

1:11:55

community and the

1:11:58

collectibles industry

1:11:59

i'm also i for

1:12:02

people following the collectibles industry ego

1:12:04

moss who had the other

1:12:06

long run of the you're a collector star trek chefs

1:12:09

as well as the or the monthly

1:12:11

bill that kits i was building their enterprise

1:12:13

the model cat or they had filed

1:12:16

for sexually the equivalent of chapter

1:12:18

eleven bankruptcy over in the

1:12:20

, and ministration is

1:12:22

what they call it an ad the be relayed

1:12:24

all their employees but one

1:12:26

of their their head of the the

1:12:29

of the starstruck line

1:12:32

i [unk] robinson who had previously the

1:12:34

interviews with before newer comicon are

1:12:36

no longer works there are he started

1:12:39

sharing some images on social media and

1:12:41

he does an interview on trek movie dot com

1:12:44

about you know where he thinks the future

1:12:46

could go for the licenses and

1:12:48

especially for the people who have back

1:12:51

the a the monthly kits

1:12:53

the enterprise cats the the ghostbuster

1:12:55

the actual one cat the delorean kit

1:12:58

a there's hope that

1:13:01

another company will come in hand fulfill

1:13:04

the rest of those no promises

1:13:06

but the way not the

1:13:08

in line for those i hope

1:13:10

so for all the consumers out there

1:13:13

and yeah

1:13:15

he eagle vastly some good stuff oh my

1:13:17

god they die cast stuff

1:13:19

was so i always really liked

1:13:21

their stars of flying at for people

1:13:24

collect them they were

1:13:26

it was a miracle at the fact that they were they

1:13:28

did physical reputations they

1:13:30

to put on your desk of starship that were in

1:13:33

just the concept art phase or were

1:13:35

seen briefly in random episodes here

1:13:37

and there diving and said cheapest

1:13:39

deep cuts of star trek

1:13:41

or and other big show's

1:13:44

know from my parents are galactica

1:13:48

firefly at

1:13:50

answer to have those in beautiful

1:13:53

little beautiful little models a lose

1:13:55

a really a really company really

1:13:57

great products really was great be sending them and great

1:13:59

books as well i'm so

1:14:02

really sad to see that there are no

1:14:04

longer exists but

1:14:06

, i'll include a link to the trek movie dot

1:14:09

com interview with ben robinson who

1:14:11

is there a former director of a licensed

1:14:13

products and and

1:14:15

the show notes but that does it for

1:14:17

this week and next

1:14:19

time we'll chat with you out there will be after

1:14:22

a silicon by do hope some of

1:14:24

you will be there to shop our in san jose

1:14:26

this weekend say weekend or

1:14:29

will have some fun stuff at the tested booth

1:14:31

or tested freebies and

1:14:34

for listeners and for fans so either

1:14:37

their saturday especially be

1:14:39

sure to stop by a will the announcements

1:14:41

on social media about when that seems

1:14:43

in a hang out the boot else

1:14:46

, or or

1:14:48

it get to get through the com crunch get

1:14:51

to the other side assume awesome

1:14:54

or i couldn't see my friends will be back

1:14:56

next week with another episode and

1:14:58

here is and classic ultra

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here we go

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i didn't fear

1:15:12

oh that wasn't my because all

1:15:14

we know all kinds i hope you enjoy

1:15:16

the testes we'll see how the ice

1:15:25

you're the is