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hey, let's start the show for

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friday august 12th

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2022 welcome to

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the official podcast

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of tested

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dot-com hello

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everyone and welcome to the podcast this week

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i'm norma joining me

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for this hamza says the sandman

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emitted i'm said i'm also i'm also top of

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mine who sorry for sure if we must all

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but yet but i'm be i'm i'm talking sandman

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artist or could see

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the

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it's going well i'm very concerned

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that you've taken the red pill

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and send a signal , for

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more feel like dealing with you

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going all full email

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this week oh my goodness ah

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the sensed emery's i mean it's i mean a trip

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we're gonna get sir are going to get some sandman

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talk for sure of a hurry door

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and how how has it on to subtly

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if it's going great i am

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i have been working on my costume

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for a silicon this week and

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so it kind of feels like life as

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normal for the first time new mile

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late to that panic of

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be i don't have enough time to actually

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finish the the thing in the way

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i wanted to be i've missed that feeling

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missed , it actually brown harken

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back service of normality yeah

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things are getting through i'm

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excited about this fall yeah

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yeah for sure oh oh

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i forgot to mention i have i

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have a special guest on the podcast ominous or

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break it up hold on one second special guest

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if you're if you're watching the video i want you

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meet my new son

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here's

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her wish i could do the voice is

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his name is optimists he he

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likes trucks and

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i his favorite snack is is is

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fruit roll outs the a joke

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i saw from someone on instagram ah

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but yeah that this is came in today will

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be watching the video your loss was if you listen to the

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audio unholy up a giant in

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his prime as represented of

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from up the six live

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action transformers some yep

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you believe there's been seven

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live action transformers films already

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and the next what there is an eighth

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coming out soon rise of the beasts

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ah but this one is from fumble be added

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as the most generation wanted see one

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inspired optimists ah

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that seen it in beginning the film and he's on earth

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but this is a it the

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little for ninety twenty inch tall

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optimus prime which let me tell ya

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there's a level of

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obsession

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fanaticism i don't know we didn't have the at

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a you know how are you know who will go on the ruff

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ruff replica prop form and will and

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are these like thirty page

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forum threads where people are debating

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the nuances of the origins of

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a specific proper costume

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or tokyo's calculating

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like what was this a regional

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greeley came from or what

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that splatter of paint weathering look

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like as before trying to replicate rights is

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kind of like you do their own detective

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insert realize a piece

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of fictional film

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, or a prop that that so that

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kind of of it right

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even though there may be multiple versions

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of that prop and become the fun debate

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in the in a fun conversation there

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is an equivalent to that the world

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of transformers it is

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the heights of transformers

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if you went down internet

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and you googled yeah you can google your house his

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optimus prime and i've done that i've done that search

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many a times and there

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are the listing on the

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the transformers with the other the finn phantom

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page those

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measurements are not accurate

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or not at least there is no

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consensus those measurements

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because the

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cz versions of those characters were

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widely the

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effort in in in height the rains it i

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can be you know for a burger michael bay

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verse live action transformers phones one

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scene they could have the head of i guess a base model

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that they base it off of but

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they could see also pay for whatever

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they want and so fans of transformers

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will take the toys the

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listed specs whatever

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reference whatever thing they could have pulled out

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from an iowa i'm a interview

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and there

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is genuine debate about

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the height of optimus

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prime not just between the films

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but even in like the film bumble bees is

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also miss nights in feet tall is

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he eighteen feet tall as he twenty one feet

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tall no consensus

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so i i have two thoughts here

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a while i'm method i'm

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shocked michael

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bay series didn't have

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the level of continuity that

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is expected from the

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the rpf fan

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community and to the correct

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answer is just used spike

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from the original cartoon as

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your reference high and that's how tall

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optimus prime is because nothing

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else is canon yeah that they're that

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the methodology that people use

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to a set of value wait the height soul

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take screen grabs where

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are you have been will be an optimist standing next

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to the actor ya hailee steinfeld

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in in mobile be an old look at set

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of how how how was she when they

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filmed us it just

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skill up for that but assuming you're

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using an optimal camera angle with

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the long lens it's there's no distortion

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snow snow measure like the with

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of the the window

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frame hi on these cars

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and they cross reference that with the

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car manufacturer aspects

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and then scale based on the other all sorts

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of different ways to measure ah

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and i had their young again this not

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all craziness there's only one correct way

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energy , cubes on tubes

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may have a define unit of measure yes

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you measure optimus prime this is crazy

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crazy at the consensus that i

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have a lead into for

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this which is like a said nights

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in a twenty and saw this is that

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office if i'm happy for him in

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my own head canon to be about nineteen

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feet tall which consists of they one well

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scale optimists was and

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perfectly skills with some of the once

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while scale figures and vehicles scale

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figures my collection or which for

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that it's convening take half

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or photography purposes and for posing

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purposes that works for me this is massive

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it comes out of the benefactors

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three zero so they've died they did the

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big ship power prime ah

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smaller optimists the i did v honestly

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a couple weeks we have an indefinite

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you some video shooting the sky

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and some new camera lenses that half

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the just want to share to shore add

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ah yeah well welcome to the tested

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team optimus prime our news

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contributor i assume he's he's

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my bone that is why

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i actually asked danica of we had a flex

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your baby swaddled left over

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swallow me

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you know i was he did a bit until he swaddled

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him like that that now i'm just

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concerned or

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it up moving onto a server

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sec news or l pop culture news will do some

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pop culture news last week he talked about the

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kind of confusion and

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the fan

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and

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outrage over the cancellation of

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bankroll the sudden abrupt cancellation

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of the backer of film and the reasoning

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behind that and then even in the h

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b o or time warner

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discovery whatever the com at their earnings

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call the announcements of their

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proposed and you nudes and your plan for

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dc but confusion still

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his eyes is the name of the game

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right now because there's no clarity

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as to how the current

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slate of in production at to be released

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easy films i mean talk about like the flask

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a year from now and were

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, what what's the what's that why don't know to vegas

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odds are that movie been cancelled the reshot

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reshot this point they will change on a day to day

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basis i'm sure but

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the latest rumors are there

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are probably canceling some of the tv

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shows the originally produced for

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the dc universe streaming service so

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that titans that's

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doom patrol which has really

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strong cult following you

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will get from the best stuff that has

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come out a vibe action dc in

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years old h b o max now i

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, fourth season of doom patrol it's all that

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shared universe the absolutely cancelled

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that or was at the was the knights of gotham

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so that look terrible those their

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terrible those kids show not refuse

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with a gotham nights video game

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that coming out which looks pretty good titans

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probably gone yeah thank god

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yeah though ah

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i owe it assume it probably the best

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one of the bunch in terms of the cartoons

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young justice need had the biggest

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cult following of anything and

9:41

probably also gone as well i'm either

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creator said season for is improbable

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are unlikely at this

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point and then we have a direct

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h b o max films that were funded

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in the previous regime

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from blue beat all to the black canary

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farm

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how the word is that those are still

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supposed to be on track the are in production

10:04

for blue beetle so they can't get

10:06

a tax write off on that one so that

10:08

might still happen apparently

10:10

there's a new a stinger that was still for

10:13

the end of like adam

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posted

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they've the path forward no word

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on a return for superman for henrik

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have all but the idea is

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whatever their tenure plan whoever they're gonna hire is

10:25

right now missing out on horns previously

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of dizzy the executive the studio head there

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is now c c but they're looking for a cabin

10:32

fight each type an overseer ah

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to to run the the

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big t see movies the temple films

10:39

and i'm sure the words for the batman returns

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wonder woman hopefully returned to superman

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tell some interesting stories there are

10:46

and are surprising thing surprising that turns out the

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batman

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sequel which matt reeves

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had said they were working on the news

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coming back to write and direct it actually

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hasn't been greenlit it's still just

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in development which means are paying him to

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work on scripts but they're not committing

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to the hundreds of millions dollars yet that it would

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take to make that film

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yeah i think they're probably just

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waiting until the dust

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settles from all this because

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, much ah that

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is happening not just in terms

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of at this merger but

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out across streaming services

11:25

right now has to do it subscribers

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and growth and i

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and how much revenue you're losing that

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this wouldn't be the right time to announce that

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they've green red light that man

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two right now

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batman to sorry i'm like you

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can't you have to if you don't include the does

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it's it's invalid yeah

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although you know of films it may

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make sense or knelt films years

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out the to plant a flag

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and the ground for those release dates because

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without release dates for these films thirteen

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a letting marvel oh

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all the seasons the summer season the holy

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season for films and we had a

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glut of m c you content

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now when i would like to see

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some dc story that least in some anticipation

12:11

for for dc that i don't

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think this think this time i think they gotta just

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sort of let all the cancellations

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happen let all

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of that play out and then come

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back with the announcement to follow i think

12:24

intermingling them will send mixed

12:26

messages said to everyone involved

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in mute the i'm anticipation

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of of that movie that movie's

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coming nephew the

12:36

batman and made too much money

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and ah money generally

12:40

everyone really like robert pattinson in that

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role in from what i can

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tell he enjoyed his experience

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which is not true of all the batman that

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it played that ,

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character so i you have

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to bet that it's coming back in there just biding their

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time oh my gosh give me a multi verse

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give me a multiverse whole film a

13:00

crisis of film where

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you have competing

13:05

slow a brooding characters

13:08

making their taking their sweet time

13:11

walking from one side of the frame to

13:13

another on one end you got robert

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pattinson batman on the other side to

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be thomas storage is more

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for us because i'm all about

13:22

the brood this week or

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let's talk some sandman

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you heard the podcast last week and have club leagues

13:29

i'm very excited about cautiously optimistic

13:31

space on the trailers isn't

13:34

the casting in his office phone down ads

13:36

but we've just finished the whole

13:38

season hold netflix season in this house

13:41

watched that two episodes every night and

13:44

how far you have you have you started for sure

13:47

now you , that are they gonna

13:49

be super enjoyable for

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okay i

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could not be happier with how

13:57

happier with season played out i think

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i'm so impressed with

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the casting

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the performance it's it's it's him

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as is hop on right because not only

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do you have thirty years of

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this comic and this character becoming

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such an enduring popular character

14:17

which has transcended the original

14:19

seventy five is you run of sam then salmon

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for trade in as

14:24

innovation format and tattoos an audio

14:26

book format like just as become

14:28

a an icon in

14:31

in not only comic culture but in

14:34

a goth culture in ah

14:37

in air and neil gaiman

14:39

has gaiman has a voice that was it's unique

14:43

to , comics in the transfer that voice over

14:45

to thankfully a

14:47

long form storytelling format your

14:50

ten episodes not

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to say two to three hour film

14:54

a was the right way to do it as we all agreed

14:57

abd and the casting was gonna be

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there number one number one thing

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hurdle to overcome and they nailed

15:04

by casting i think there was a review i've

15:07

been kind of binging all the different peripheral media

15:09

around sandman with the reviews analyses

15:12

the interviews the as a great m

15:14

youtube interview series that felicia

15:16

day is hosting for netflix where she

15:18

does interviews with all the all the the

15:20

the behind it the and the

15:24

in the casting of town tom storage

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who has been and stuff before but he's just

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enough of an unknown sir

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but to have like

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the body kind of like a very very muscular like

15:36

robert pattinson almost you know that

15:38

vampiric for all right there's a there's a little bit

15:40

of empire bill from from true

15:42

blood as a little bit of the

15:44

pants and from a twilight novels

15:47

or add one of the interviews or read

15:49

the one of them notes that he got their first

15:52

day of shooting was that not play it as batman

15:54

and is a very much not a raspy

15:57

voice that man i

15:59

the way he

15:59

or phrases yeah

16:03

like the were described as they captured the

16:07

the white tax on black speech

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balloon

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hi parker fi in

16:13

audible sound in live action here's

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a gramma tossed his performance

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it absolutely works and i loved it

16:22

so , not too much robert smith

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from the cure cure mean the look

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is the hair is their right yeah a

16:28

d c like zoo a lot

16:30

he looks like robert smith circa

16:33

like nineteen eighty five yes

16:35

and eighty five results m and guy kind of i called

16:37

back that because i was written in late eighties

16:39

eighty eighty nine right so it's

16:41

this is interesting in that it is set in early

16:44

twenty twenty the the

16:46

story of the sandman if you haven't read

16:48

it and i ever i've heard from

16:51

many , on on form threads

16:53

that they're enjoying this as a series

16:55

even if they've never read the original graphic novels

16:57

was great to hear that will have that perspective

17:00

i have it as from the prospect of someone who enjoy the graphic

17:02

novels decades ago have the absolutely

17:05

actions but haven't revisit it in maybe maybe

17:08

or six years and read read them and i was a don't

17:10

do that don't that ,

17:12

them it's not necessary refresh your memory

17:14

so much better it's a real visit

17:16

this if you're familiar with sorry if you

17:18

read the original ruff novels are

17:22

watching this show not remembering

17:24

all the details i think helps

17:27

because they do adapt and take poll from

17:29

different sam and stories

17:31

but again if you haven't heard it's we have read the original

17:33

sandman i was your game

17:35

in take on

17:38

a completely whole whole original

17:40

takes on a dc comics

17:42

superhero that was a

17:45

guy who are gas masks who for

17:47

people to sleep and he

17:49

was given free rein by vertigo

17:51

at the time to kind of she was own

17:54

gothic high fantasy version of

17:56

that and the do that

17:58

he credits idea

17:59

the the , of endless

18:02

the endless so these the supernatural

18:04

beings of which are they control different

18:06

aspects of human nature

18:09

from dream desire destiny

18:12

despair despair

18:14

at and gas hum gas

18:17

their relationships but the fun on a story

18:20

at least in the first eight or nine issues

18:23

or nine fierce

18:25

sandman the lord of dreams he controls

18:27

the realm that we visit his humans

18:29

from we fall asleep or he is captured

18:32

and trapped our on earth for

18:34

almost one hundred years which

18:38

there's chaos in the dream world and when he

18:40

is finally freed and freeze himself

18:42

he goes on a quest to reclaim the

18:44

parts of himself that he lost ah

18:47

these artifacts a law so that whole story

18:49

arc is covered in this first season

18:51

as well as of the second

18:54

story arc the dollhouse to the

18:56

captures the first too graphic novel volumes

18:58

in and ten upset

19:00

he did you buy it

19:03

i think this is the most important part

19:05

of murphy's to me as

19:07

he , detached almost

19:09

of aloof but there

19:11

is this kind of a sense about him

19:13

that he cares deeply even

19:16

amidst that sort of like way

19:18

that he floats through

19:20

the world's com and

19:23

did you buy that because if you but you

19:25

can buy his like a motion

19:27

all our the

19:29

story can work but that's only so challenging

19:32

because the given the nature of after

19:34

it's a pretty balanced so often

19:36

morphy us in the comic is

19:39

just this is passionate

19:41

character right he is he's all

19:43

he is he's yeah

19:46

he's emotional for sure

19:48

because some of the church while he's a short his creations

19:52

he's very stubborn all the supporting

19:54

cast the has in this room when from

19:57

lucianne his library ends at a

19:59

won't change his raven matthew

20:01

and add that they're all like

20:04

they react to him because they are full of personality

20:06

and he's kind of like a it's rob

20:08

character so it's i have really tough

20:11

role to play because at once as you want

20:13

to have that robert sauce and , want

20:15

to have you want to have like as

20:17

neil gaiman put it every word

20:19

he says is perfectly measured there's no question

20:22

because it's pretty easy it is like as

20:24

if every every line he says

20:27

should be as if it was written in stone

20:29

was the direction of given rights so

20:31

that tells you like the of the slow agree grand

20:33

character that agree boring role to play

20:36

and so i think tom sawyer it's does play with

20:38

little bit of playfulness a times there is there

20:40

is almost like a childlike wonder because

20:42

even though these beings are

20:45

billions of yawns the old

20:47

might have traversed the death

20:49

of universes are they are still

20:51

learning about themselves and

20:54

they still have very human

20:56

life emotions inside

20:58

the gay that that's what makes a character interesting

21:01

his growth in his rotation because

21:03

of the ordeal of him being trapped a

21:05

hundred a hundred plus years

21:08

ago the go back to the the robert smith a cure

21:10

luck so they're setting the early twenty

21:12

twenties but the aesthetics are very

21:14

for him and for of with

21:16

a dream world are so very much of the graphic

21:18

novel other was in comics so

21:21

he's still were in that now

21:22

in the eighties luck there's

21:25

no direct reference to

21:26

the so

21:29

the cure or you know as they

21:31

do in the comics it's just a look in

21:33

a style that you have to take which

21:36

is very true to the comics

21:39

it appeared cali to like you know that the very

21:41

measured slow slow measure

21:43

movements that he has and the when he's

21:45

trapped in this this favell essentially

21:48

though the that the that the the very

21:50

like bodie figure the really capture

21:52

all that are i think they did really really great job

21:55

with that ah this forecasts

21:57

i mean

21:58

yeah

21:59

using the opposite sex is my favorite episode

22:02

ah it's it's where he and he does his older

22:04

sister just and walk through monday

22:06

and and she explains for world view and fades

22:09

recreate when my favorite cms stories

22:12

are in it which i won't i won't

22:14

spoil but that's from our the

22:16

dollhouse of sir issue fourteen if you

22:18

read the the graphic novel and

22:21

, there's a really dark episode

22:23

absurd five was very twin peaks like

22:25

and it's and a show for children

22:28

the way

22:30

so highly recommend it

22:32

yeah a the they must do

22:34

season to ah if

22:36

if they do

22:38

the seventy five issue is it

22:40

was across a musty like ten

22:43

nine nine graphic novels

22:45

are so eight or nine graphic novels they

22:48

could do at least for five seasons of this

22:50

of this there is a flea a conclusion to

22:52

the salmon story of neil gaiman wrote it so

22:55

i hope they get to that point to where

22:57

warfare the story takes him on

23:00

toward the end of the salmon run it is a

23:02

hugely emotional a

23:04

pizza have a story arc

23:06

so i would love to see that as that salmon

23:08

fans and i'm very i'm very

23:10

a also very pleased this past

23:12

week with the release of prey

23:15

on hulu and this one you did

23:18

watch to sure tell me about it

23:20

hi

23:21

was stunt like first well i

23:24

didn't realize a predator

23:26

prequel was coming out until

23:28

like hours before a dropped

23:30

when somebody is like hey are you watching that

23:32

this weekend i felt like there is no fanfare

23:35

about this a and it was like

23:37

was this a this to be some crappy

23:39

thing and and it dropped on hulu

23:42

the list of great movies that dropped

23:44

on hulu is not lengthy and

23:47

or so

23:49

turn it on the norm

23:52

this was the best predator movie

23:54

ever made in get fleet

23:57

even considering be original predator

23:59

this is so much anymore

24:03

the lake and it's almost more moody

24:06

am i say the humans

24:08

were the most well rounded

24:10

humans have any predator movie

24:13

and they weren't lakes caricatures

24:15

like they were you know in the original

24:18

ib original granted

24:20

you like you can't some

24:23

of the people that you cast in a movie and not have

24:25

them not play like over

24:27

the top like versions of themselves

24:29

as part of the charm of the original but

24:31

this is like quieter i'm

24:34

in a lot of sent a in terms of the performance

24:37

ah the and also like this

24:41

is so much more at ten switches

24:43

the great thing about predator films just

24:46

because you , hunter

24:48

hunting is like is the tension within

24:50

all of his films i think this had

24:53

just extended sequences of that

24:56

that at but it will it didn't rely

24:58

on like hokey ways of doing it just

25:01

awesome tension ah

25:03

accident

25:04

the

25:05

i'm gonna take this year with the critique

25:08

of the first predator fell can

25:10

i love the first predator film it

25:12

has it is hokey like the first

25:14

better film is itself i

25:16

think a commentary on

25:19

the overblown macho

25:21

eighties action movie and

25:24

it's and science fiction characters roll

25:27

into the mix of

25:29

that hokey death which is fully lead

25:31

since you which i think you gotta watch it as a

25:33

piece of satire can't he gets years i think

25:35

there are people who do take it seriously

25:37

and like yahoo or or to did

25:39

like said a whole era of that type of film

25:42

or it lives among those ah

25:44

it's like done porn it's like moto

25:46

a porn ah it's ah

25:49

of and of and is absolutely

25:51

not that this is almost like a genre

25:53

film yeah right it's like

25:55

it it's it's the

25:58

slower pace

25:59

what's what was

26:02

it the thin red line director

26:06

ahead

26:10

that is the terrence malick

26:13

then suddenly you

26:15

have the predator thrown in there i

26:18

would say one thing though so surprising

26:20

because surprising yeah i'm alright like

26:23

the the premise of what if in

26:25

the odor the is it's seventeen

26:27

hundreds right eighteenth century what

26:29

do you what if you have like us hugely powerful

26:31

site by being with with like

26:33

hi tech weaponry and cloaking out

26:36

versus ah native americans

26:39

with their

26:40

they're hunting abilities and their weaponry

26:43

but deftly not as technology advances that

26:45

premise itself is gonna be interesting

26:48

cause you want to see the clever ways which you

26:50

could have them the matched up

26:52

right but i think the film delivers

26:54

it's almost other and it's hopped on maverick way

26:57

and we haven't seen it but is it like

26:59

is so perfectly written to escalate

27:01

in the right ways to have this so

27:03

satisfying payoffs like this it's

27:06

a perfect crowd pleaser of a film

27:08

i it's not small by any means

27:10

even though it doesn't require the big

27:13

know budgets of of a marvel

27:15

film it's not heavy with cg

27:18

their spew for naturalistic this

27:20

does but it does have scope

27:23

like one of the writings me was

27:25

the level scope and this and i don't want to spot for

27:27

people i've seen it but they it's not

27:29

just a slow earn

27:31

the entire time there is a great

27:33

pace to this and great escalations

27:36

and the escalations and moments

27:39

of a hunch and a and the payoff that

27:41

makes the payoffs always satisfying

27:43

at the analyst yeah because one is

27:45

sarah watching the film like when you

27:47

see like the initial for seems you're like

27:50

ah this is even like your mind

27:52

immediately goes to oh this

27:54

is going to be the story arc and you're only

27:56

like when he five percent

27:58

rate of what that we are in the being

28:01

i'm you're right that is expensive and

28:04

at the same time i i think they counted

28:06

like he people in this entire

28:08

film likely it's not

28:10

like it's filled with all

28:12

sorts of characters either i'm

28:15

it's expansive given the nature

28:17

of of that the story

28:19

and when it's doing act like

28:21

it's rare that you get a prequel

28:24

that is often times better

28:27

then what it is than it was based on

28:30

yeah yeah and it does have a high to

28:33

, i'm very few few know

28:35

true true true i'm a

28:38

it does have ties to predator to in

28:40

terms of easter egg so there is a reference if

28:42

you're finished product to the the danny

28:44

glover one a which also i

28:46

think it is a genre film very much of

28:49

that of the era as well as

28:52

i can they the that are urban yeah

28:54

like the the the the the gangland

28:56

cities you know genre film pray

28:59

that your robocop was based in an

29:02

amber mid thunder

29:03

the a lead actress and this is

29:05

incredible and you should absolutely

29:07

be more things are after this

29:10

a add just that it's beautifully

29:12

shot someone soccer for years is is

29:15

just gorgeous this deserve

29:17

like you said it felt like came out of nowhere and

29:19

in many respects with a good did a because

29:21

it didn't get the full marketing campaign that a big

29:23

budget theatrical release would

29:25

have been even though this was like originally

29:28

slated i think twentieth century fox for

29:30

for theatrical release a before

29:32

disney bought them and this one this deserves

29:34

it like now whereas top gun

29:37

maverick is a success sorry for for

29:39

the cinemas and for credited

29:42

with saving cinemas and getting people back in

29:44

the theaters in feel like this is a film that

29:46

could have done the same as same popcorn

29:48

movie as movie as pleaser if it was

29:50

given that chance let let's

29:52

get one thing be sorry don't talk a maverick

29:55

was ah this is

29:57

nowhere near as got that move

29:59

short short the any stretch this

30:01

is a good movie is

30:03

a you're not going to be thinking about

30:05

it weeks later year we like i

30:07

had a good time watching that predator movie

30:10

i was is not a think you get to say i'm

30:15

sorry , thinking about it like days later

30:17

and i'd feel like i wanna rewards

30:19

it soon as possible it's a movie like

30:21

if i saw in theaters i would be swampy the

30:23

bit see it again in theaters

30:25

and and an amnio when it when it on

30:27

after than it's streaming of

30:30

and one

30:32

thing i'll say for people who haven't seen it

30:34

yet is the go back to the slow

30:36

burn aspect is they don't hold back they don't

30:39

they don't bruce

30:41

the shark this in edo

30:43

they don't wait till the last ten minutes

30:45

the show you the predator like

30:47

if you're afraid that this the film at won't

30:50

show you predator action there

30:52

are plenty of predator

30:54

action to this does not feel like

30:56

a small low budget film where they only other money

30:59

to have that your for five federal

31:01

shots in the costume looks bad the predator

31:03

a looks amazing and this

31:05

and they really showed off

31:08

the performer mark

31:10

to the this split the actor who played the

31:12

predator because the his physicality

31:15

his physique is is is also

31:18

, and a fitting of

31:21

that character

31:23

i'm well that's on hulu

31:25

yeah i know not everyone has hulu a

31:27

new while hulu is still

31:29

owned by i think like a mix of

31:32

you know fox and and disney

31:34

and a whose nbc

31:37

yeah nbc i think owned it because

31:39

it had although they're like office stuff before

31:42

peacock launch peacock it

31:44

gets more confusing and the news

31:46

isn't good for good for of us

31:48

in the ala carte streaming a

31:51

a world because just he also announced

31:53

that they are going to raise prices for

31:56

cooler

31:57

and disney plus

31:59

so if he plus they're

32:02

doing a strange thing to see posts are now so ninety nine

32:04

a month the , it to

32:06

ten ninety nine a month so the over

32:09

thirty three percent increase it was thirty

32:11

eight percent increase in changing

32:13

the name of desi plus to dc

32:16

plus premium

32:17

now

32:20

that means they're gonna do the plus non premium

32:23

which they're calling dizzy plus a basic which

32:25

will stay the current price of seven

32:27

ninety nine

32:29

right now we'll have ads

32:31

and they're doing ads like tv

32:33

ads four minutes of ads per hour

32:36

so i i'm i

32:38

have hulu because we have this old who

32:41

are hulu spotify bundle which

32:44

cost us the same as like a normal spotify

32:46

subscription but it comes with

32:48

the ads it is

32:51

like just having commercials like

32:53

they are two minute ad breaks in the middle

32:55

east of shows and because

32:58

these shows weren't sought with that in

33:00

mind it is abrupt

33:02

as all heck so

33:06

i am not a fan of

33:08

that in the context of premium

33:10

shows i they

33:13

don't know how they're

33:15

going to do it in the context of movies

33:18

i'm if they're going to run

33:21

a longer can a pre pre

33:23

roll kind of kind of thing i'm

33:26

but they are it is like a

33:29

it's a fine experience for a

33:31

reduced rate the reduced rate

33:34

here is not that reduced it's only a couple

33:36

of bucks well it's a couple of bucks but

33:38

it's it's the increased rate that's kind of a a

33:40

bummer yeah i know that we are they are some of

33:42

us are on the five dollar know i'm

33:44

multiyear plan and that's gonna expire

33:46

soon so their timing this knowing

33:49

that you got three years of pandemic

33:51

lockdown disney plus if we bought

33:53

in so they are the free verizon europe

33:55

does he plus stuff and

33:57

work all can i dunno actually my question

33:59

how they're gonna

34:01

op

34:02

announced this for folks because it

34:04

is going to be often or opt out if

34:06

you're currently paying

34:07

eight dollars a month for disney plus

34:11

you get a pop up when you launch yeah

34:13

a couple months from now when i do unless i

34:16

am they'll say job the option of staying

34:19

this price but with ads were

34:21

as pop up stopped suddenly and can

34:23

have been a of more detrimental experience

34:25

or are they gonna auto

34:28

so you

34:29

the eleven dollars a month and then you have the option

34:32

manually to get the ads

34:35

that well bad experience regardless

34:37

idea i think we'll know a

34:39

lot more in the next quarter because

34:41

i like the kind of eye popping

34:44

a number beyond how much

34:46

the the prices going up is

34:49

, they gained fifteen

34:51

million subscribers in the last

34:53

quarter and now they have one hundred fifty

34:56

two million subscribers to the

34:58

service that is a massive

35:00

number is exploded

35:03

a and a are we going to

35:05

see what happened netflix where we start

35:07

to see some fatigue said

35:09

it and some kind of bleeding

35:12

and especially if some

35:14

of the shows a that

35:16

we don't think have the same cache the

35:19

seahawks are the world even if it's good

35:22

just not the same level of cache

35:24

and name recognition as some of the previous

35:26

shows can't

35:29

kind of carried a week i'm

35:31

a of continual a

35:34

subscriber increase i don't i don't know

35:36

i i think the price

35:38

raises pretty significant and

35:41

and i'm i'm not sure we're going to be sitting here

35:43

saying how disney blew it out of the water yet

35:46

with new subscribers next quarter yeah

35:48

i grew thought of

35:51

they'll do the math phrase a free surprised by thirty

35:53

it for my percent and they're hoping

35:55

to not lose to thirty some odd

35:57

for the number of subscribers which i don't think they they

35:59

will

35:59

and they

36:02

they expect full acceptable to live with

36:04

ads for for a while

36:06

at i'm sure they're gonna just their the content

36:08

directives a built in those ad breaks

36:11

are going forward it is the they say they won't

36:13

have ads for the kids version

36:15

so if i

36:17

create a kids profile

36:19

and watch with that do i get into was that

36:22

loophole around it right maybe

36:24

or your it's not get guy not get my logan's

36:27

or or orville to buy a if i have a

36:29

kid version right dunno a

36:31

hulu jumping up jumping price there also are

36:33

you going from the ad version of hulu

36:35

goes from seven dollars eight dollars and the ad

36:37

free version goes from filching

36:40

dollars to fifteen to so

36:42

also or something the as pm

36:44

plus also going up in price significantly

36:47

by that's historically sports

36:50

subscriptions have been the ones that have been the

36:52

most immune to price increases just because

36:54

live sports seems ,

36:56

have at , different

36:59

place in the segment at a

37:01

in the market

37:02

the bundle though not going up in price

37:05

the that i think they're pushing everyone towards

37:08

the bundle pluto the bundle is going

37:10

from thirty ninety nine to fourteen ninety nine

37:13

am and there's also premium bundle

37:15

that's can be twenty bucks oh

37:17

that's a new at so god going after

37:19

price but not as much percentage

37:22

wise gosh he makes up premium bundle twenty

37:24

bucks for hulu disney plus

37:27

the n e s p n know as that's

37:29

gonna be

37:30

the most compelling one

37:32

yeah yeah they want to keep you they want to you

37:34

to look at your your bill and say you know i get

37:36

this tree bill ads all the time now and

37:38

say maybe i can live without netflix maybe i can live

37:41

without a partner amazon

37:43

prime cause people think of that are still have

37:45

a freebie with there's to description

37:48

but live without you know of

37:50

whoa h b o right but

37:53

then just go with that is the option

37:55

how much do you want to bed at the

37:58

next apple event that

38:00

it can be apple tv plus still

38:02

for ninety nine it's own again like a

38:04

worry like that still for

38:07

ninety nine the

38:10

yeah when i was i able doesn't

38:12

need to make money on it they were literally they

38:14

they keep it a forty nine as a as a

38:16

to make everyone look bad

38:18

right and then the shows are getting

38:21

a popularity those building their library overtime

38:24

to licensing and it

38:26

is a eyes and as and sucker at like

38:28

at like it's kind of a mess

38:30

a half i'm

38:33

sore , some point will be on disney plus though

38:35

eleven thunder and as we switch over

38:37

to a technology a i

38:39

want to talk about a really fascinating

38:41

article i read about behind the scenes

38:44

of the making of thor lavon

38:46

thunder so this comes via before

38:48

and afters dot com where they

38:50

did an interview with some of the

38:53

the team that worked on the

38:56

a the iconic

38:58

black and white seen the visual

39:00

effects supervisor jake morrison did

39:02

an interview here so if you have

39:04

not seen thor lemon thunder you may have

39:06

seen the trailer and one of the things

39:09

are striking about the trailer

39:12

for the one in the movie is there

39:14

are battle scene than battle whole encounter

39:16

in a basically black and white environment

39:19

on this moon the moon of shame

39:22

sequence they call it were thor

39:24

valerie and mighty thor confront

39:27

gore christian bale's availing in

39:29

the film

39:30

in the approach

39:32

to the feminist as what is a reason

39:35

that this this whole sequence look

39:37

so striking and it's not just because

39:40

it was black and white like the film and color and

39:42

they'd know to net for for for

39:44

grayscale for for black and white

39:46

witch honey movies have

39:49

done by , turns

39:51

out that the way they lit the whole scene

39:54

was a version in aeration

39:56

on the the

39:59

flashback

39:59

the in that was enough for ragnar rock

40:02

so one of the best things in thorax

40:05

iraq which was also in that's oregon

40:07

thriller was the valkyrie flashback

40:10

we saw the valkyrie ah

40:12

fight hello

40:14

if you recall the that

40:16

scene look like a baroque

40:19

painting and the result look like it is

40:21

hard shadows really bright lights

40:24

it was shot in high speeds of slow

40:26

motion battles yet valkyries on their pegasus

40:29

going , hell are you hello throwing

40:32

her sword up and than the valkyrie

40:34

falling ready for call from that this all

40:36

happening in slow motion but

40:39

beetle the shadows even though the following

40:41

the accident happened foremost since you had

40:44

the shadows sweeping across

40:46

their faces faces the way they

40:48

film that was a had the strobe

40:50

lighting system so the of course filmed in high

40:52

speed high speed cameras phantom cameras

40:55

like adam and jamie do with mythbusters

40:57

right in the modern a phantom cameras can all

40:59

film at very high frame rates as well as

41:02

high as but they had

41:04

special lady rigs that would essentially

41:06

to a strobe in effect a strobe

41:09

light synchronized with the frame

41:11

the frame rate of the cameras so

41:14

in real time if you're watching piece of

41:16

action it would look like

41:19

the room was like strobe a like real fast

41:21

i suppose is bleak and or and off was

41:23

actually do we get high speed

41:27

moving light in are turning both

41:29

on and off i should say are in a way

41:31

that would move the shadows are both the lights

41:34

across the actual constables basis

41:36

the you get their fact that i'm

41:40

dead , guess there are like

41:42

almost like on a plane it's spinning around

41:44

the sun so quickly so that they're they're

41:47

like their shadows cutting

41:49

coming across their face and then

41:51

they be fully late you know a

41:53

frame later and then you know half

41:56

lid on the other sites it was it

41:58

was so odd lucky in

42:00

that context the black away but i'm

42:04

really just kind of fascinating and

42:06

kind of creepy in that matter

42:08

either way i'm that the scene

42:10

i'm gonna a the

42:13

mood that the that the took on as well

42:17

organ circle that of a bit further what they

42:19

did for love and thunder where's

42:21

the scene and have the crazy like

42:23

light moving of fact the did some the some flashes

42:26

and stuff but what they did was they

42:28

filmed it at like five

42:30

hundred and seventy six frames per second

42:32

like twenty four of us that twenty four times

42:34

slow which is arbitrary number they

42:36

chose as soon as they could

42:39

also have these six

42:41

different lighting setup the

42:43

you imagine if you are lighting

42:45

a photographer seen

42:47

or a video seeing you would have

42:49

a t like you know as your main

42:52

lie you have a kick light of feel like right

42:54

but you have your standard maybe

42:56

three light lighting arrangement for

42:58

that one shot classically

43:01

lit scene but instead of

43:03

having one set up dude had actually

43:05

six different lighting setup

43:08

at the same time though

43:10

that on a per

43:12

frame level the should rob

43:15

the lights go to they could basically captures

43:17

six different lighting

43:20

setup for each frame

43:22

of action or

43:24

for each other forever sequential frame

43:27

of action so that the

43:29

you know a whether someone's walking down

43:32

walking towards the camera doing camera big hammer

43:34

swain ah they would have

43:37

the only been a cg way six

43:40

different ways to play that

43:42

seen back and they

43:44

could than meld that because light is

43:46

that if second say who left

43:48

like accentuate the key lights on this

43:50

seen this ah and he called like

43:52

a sec a car sick as if you know

43:55

you had your at f

43:57

for every sought for every sequence

43:59

you

43:59

had

44:00

for a you had you

44:03

had a spade time in you know heart

44:05

and and i am in

44:08

any clubs right it's like you had

44:11

your different suit for every

44:13

lighting setup and then

44:15

the unfurled their their frames

44:17

like a deck of cards and regroup them sequentially

44:20

see a play the scene six different ways

44:22

which allowed them in the yet it so be more

44:24

creative in the at it and creek continuity

44:27

to do things like layered lighting effects

44:29

is hop each other and you're reminded

44:31

be of the late stage

44:34

you ember one wants us see

44:36

ah okay right

44:38

and right and of those things in visual effects

44:40

of the big pioneering thing for like spiderman

44:43

to was look it

44:45

up the zoc it's as i guess fear

44:47

of cameras are enlightens

44:50

and so and and they would it's it's not

44:52

for motion it's

44:54

for a static you know reference but

44:56

you'd put a subject and actor in the

44:58

center of the sphere and then

45:01

they would basically strobe light and

45:03

capture with cameras

45:06

the propositions as was different

45:09

lighting and by or the light lighting setup

45:12

so that the cg artist could

45:14

get references and create a perfect is

45:16

a representation of any

45:18

lighting conditions right

45:20

are bother doing this as a poser for

45:23

a static figure they're doing it in faster

45:25

than real time as you at a high high

45:27

frame rate with ,

45:30

on a giant soundstage that he built him

45:32

in fox city studios

45:35

saw out include a link to this article from before

45:37

and after the show notes but is is what

45:39

the is piece of innovation that be don't think

45:41

of and one of the things that y'all

45:44

things yeah school films with big

45:46

budgets are allowed to explore ah

45:48

that you don't get to see necessarily

45:50

on he even a big budget tv show

45:53

really

45:56

incredible soft as you know film nerds as

45:58

techniques this is

45:59

right up a rally for the intersection

46:02

over a things were interested in

46:04

a let's move on to tech

46:06

though there were a few big tech events that

46:08

happen this week i know you're

46:11

know an apple guy for sure

46:14

but did you follow the samsung unpacked

46:16

event i did was the unpacked

46:18

event i'm a leak

46:20

i am definitely fold curious

46:23

i'm not i'm not a i'm

46:26

a , not terribly interested

46:28

in getting any foldable phone

46:31

but at least it's different than

46:33

what is largely a set

46:36

set commodity phones and ain't

46:38

like i was setting up with a tessa

46:41

list or on twitter today

46:43

and were talking about the pixel five vs

46:45

switching over the i phone and like i'm a

46:47

pretty much the same device

46:50

i'm a unless

46:52

you get into like some that the details

46:54

and a lot of ways the ,

46:57

at least different and we got to

46:59

foldable devices at

47:01

unpacked where do you want to start do i start

47:04

with the good on a

47:06

surf the i've i'm tears for you think

47:08

is a good because it's the wide

47:10

fought for and the slip for

47:12

our which one do you think it's a good one

47:14

well

47:16

i'm curious about the for the

47:18

fold because android is

47:20

shipping a new o

47:22

s with this i think it's called twelve l

47:25

which is there's sort of like hybrid

47:27

tablet mobile o

47:29

s and i'm very curious

47:31

they showed a couple like glimpses of

47:34

of multitasking in the context

47:36

of it it's tablet foot of features

47:38

being able to kind of switch back and

47:40

forth and have like documents

47:42

go on one side and become attachments

47:45

an email and like i'm really

47:47

have like have assertive seamless

47:49

experience there seamless very curious

47:51

about how the about with operates in the

47:54

in the real world testing and

47:56

that we see like outside of that

47:58

like that like that's the flagship

48:00

item so he had the flagship hardware

48:03

i'm elements do it like the

48:05

, know three acts act a little zoom

48:08

on the telephoto lens like you know all

48:10

those kinds of of things

48:12

because really dizzy flip it's just like

48:14

the bigger battery n

48:17

like a couple hooky features but

48:19

i'm going to tell you something the reason i will

48:22

never talk about the z flip again after this

48:24

the lake would you what i watched them

48:27

presentation and after they talk about

48:29

the z flesh never been so

48:31

mad at a tech presentation on our

48:34

s and never been so math assessed as

48:36

a lake so after they get through like

48:38

ah here the colors you know and they

48:40

announced the prices will will preorder the

48:43

like but we also have the

48:45

flip for for spoke

48:48

in i was like no you did not say that you

48:50

did not say that in it was like you could customize

48:52

the color combinations i'm

48:55

ah on the of the phone

48:57

itself in owsley a i was

48:59

so mad i was struck i was trying to

49:02

just i was like seeking my fist

49:04

at at the you tube video

49:06

at it but the z flip itself

49:09

smaller hinge bigger battery

49:12

bigger battery be important thing and

49:14

then the flashy feature everyone's talking about

49:17

said has a screen on the front when

49:19

it folded always did but now

49:22

that has additional functionality can

49:25

i interest you in a self

49:27

he can yeah i mean is it didn't

49:29

have a sophie cameras were having a small tiny

49:32

three hours i did as a big one the

49:34

bigger sophie yeah i

49:37

actually like to see that i

49:39

think the the the

49:42

for buffoons can be two things either

49:44

gives you either a bigger screen or

49:46

smaller phone the biggest

49:48

read the full forgives you the

49:53

in both enabled by the versatility

49:55

of android but also hampered by

49:58

the first atari the enjoyed in it's not

50:00

design and optimize for this

50:02

form factor the kind of just like taking advantage

50:05

of the fact the answer i can be any resolution in

50:08

and doing that the side by side thing so it

50:10

really is the kind of twelve l

50:12

depended wait and see to see whether

50:14

it's it's worth it has about as it's thicker

50:16

and it's you know that it's of of your sacrifice

50:19

here is

50:21

rather than buying a tablet you have somebody that

50:23

just

50:24

fit your pocket right that you saw

50:26

that saw as be like backpacker both personal

50:29

and the hundred dollars so

50:31

crazy prices yeah that's

50:34

it that's on a mass market debates it is

50:36

a niche product but all

50:39

of those samsung tablet

50:41

size devices have a niche loyal

50:44

base so i'm not surprised by

50:46

that so i like

50:48

the concept of the flip the

50:51

flipped more because that

50:54

was having a massive screen that may

50:56

or may not be useful it ,

50:58

into compactness as

51:00

as the selling points and i haven't

51:03

handled it at the previous unpacked

51:05

events unpacked tunnel like that building design

51:07

and the fact that they can still put that

51:09

sweet on the outside for those kitchens

51:12

for things like the sophie cam because you're

51:14

using then the best camera right

51:17

you don't you don't have the compromise of

51:19

the interior camera being the

51:21

crap yourself he camera here you're using

51:24

what would be the world facing camera the

51:26

yourself the camera that actually

51:29

the that i feature i

51:32

like if i was forces use the folding

51:34

phone for for awhile dizzy flip is

51:36

why i go for and that's why you know the motorola

51:38

razr what they did last year and what they're bringing

51:41

back this year in a slightly

51:43

different form or different form factor for the

51:45

screen higher refresh rate

51:47

is on sale in china for not nine hundred bucks a

51:50

that one also interesting to me yeah

51:52

when i played around with one i

51:54

get a friend had it i

51:57

just find the when it's full

51:59

it

52:00

they're trying to sell the functionality

52:03

of the phone in that a space

52:05

and they spent a lot of time talking about

52:07

how you can use a google

52:09

pay you know when it's folded you

52:11

can you know mess around with your music

52:14

you can use it as saw him i just didn't buy

52:17

any of the features like when i

52:19

i know as the older edition so didn't

52:22

have as much resolution screen

52:24

i just don't think it's a highly

52:26

functional thing outside of a couple

52:28

notifications that you get on that and

52:30

maybe managing your music

52:33

you know now very basic

52:35

function i that's all it needs to be i

52:37

think they're trying derek they're kind of going

52:39

too far with it my

52:42

only counter to you on the the flip

52:44

eight is it is the normal phone

52:46

of this bunch is that they didn't really

52:48

ituri much on the hardware outside

52:50

of the battery is pretty much the same

52:52

thing with like a slightly enhanced

52:55

you know friends you know that

52:57

small screen i in front

53:00

ah otherwise it's pretty much the same thing

53:02

in different colors mm

53:05

cures for people who do up to see flip what

53:07

they use external ah screen

53:10

for for notification you if they

53:12

find that more compelling than

53:14

the addiction we have of you're holding

53:17

up our phones supermarket and then scorns

53:19

you twitter like this are actually help

53:21

their internet addiction or

53:24

do they have that behavior is behavior older

53:26

the use a pager you know there's

53:28

a whole the guy your pocket your

53:30

holster and glance at the top and

53:32

put it back right i wonder

53:34

that a use case or it's a a a behavior

53:37

for up for this of sure but

53:40

it's it's funny for me to think about i'm

53:42

a lot deserve attack for

53:45

up with the show amazon is

53:47

buying i robots the

53:50

rumor company for

53:52

a over l y one point seven billion

53:55

dollars every

53:57

announced robots there are still drone

53:59

the for

53:59

around the house the liberal

54:02

robot that you can opt into to

54:04

have served as a

54:06

have the opportunity to buy

54:08

the integrate with you know there are there are

54:10

echo devices ah comic

54:13

sans great lakes

54:16

yeah i know there's a lot of lakes conspiracy

54:18

talks conspiracy twitter about how amazon

54:21

now has data is data map your home

54:23

well and like well like

54:25

didn't buy into a of that stuff

54:28

desist fits with their where they're going

54:30

with their going home hardware

54:33

in some alexa lake this is just

54:36

further integration of of

54:38

that of those kinds of like passive

54:40

some i'm smart home devices

54:43

so smart they now they

54:45

i they it i'm a

54:47

router company their own router

54:50

you know cleaning robot

54:52

the own the the assistance

54:54

the on speakers like it all

54:56

with all the smart home stuff all starting to

54:58

really come together

55:01

i'm in like a seamless thing i'm

55:03

when be surprised if m

55:05

they're going to you know own like

55:07

smart late old company and

55:09

like you know other things in that space

55:12

and so they have a single vertical and likes

55:15

just smart home and that

55:17

becomes a seamless lake by

55:19

an entire package of stuff from your doorbell

55:22

up to your vacuum while something

55:24

that something robot can have reached peak

55:26

roomba like there was can have generation

55:29

of his minor yeah it's like it's it's

55:31

only the it's it's no

55:33

longer novel but like to people

55:35

even use of devices that we

55:38

the whole jetsons feel of it doesn't

55:40

feel like it's as ubiquitous as

55:42

they had hoped and people weren't

55:44

going to be buying new hardware harbor company

55:47

i worked in inner great job the

55:51

smart functionality that every tech

55:53

company has company beard are they are primarily

55:55

are robotics company in

55:58

is only so many places from the go

55:59

so

56:00

the the be a while a lot conclusion flat

56:04

we have a rather we barely use

56:06

so i am a robo rocks at i use

56:09

a lot and , think my

56:11

last frontier as the auto empty doc

56:13

like that is my last thing i need to get

56:15

and i and i am done on

56:17

the robots wondering room

56:20

yeah well if you want robots what are

56:22

your house you know tesla says they have

56:24

a humanoid one but they are beans the punch

56:27

by another a phone company sell

56:30

me at their phone now spent announce

56:32

not just phones they also

56:35

announced the cyber one

56:38

you want avoid robot the metal

56:41

bro as they call it hundred

56:43

fifteen pounds almost six feet

56:45

tall and clumsily

56:49

lock on the stage this is not like

56:51

you're boston dynamics

56:53

atlas platform this

56:55

is very much a a descended

56:58

or a like like and like and honda

57:00

asthma

57:01

the about

57:03

you member am was the name of the competition

57:05

where they had all of the humanoid

57:08

robots and the the or see they

57:10

constantly fell down yeah dharma robotic

57:13

challenge yeah arpa robotic so that's

57:15

what it was this it feels like

57:18

we put a nicer skin on when it is

57:20

oh gosh tiptoeing the robots are just cause

57:22

it's that that the robot always look like they have the p

57:25

right that may be authentic authentic there was a

57:27

shipping their bodies left and right because

57:29

of a they stop their gate and they're going to fall over

57:31

specific other of a therapy

57:34

rabid dog last year think

57:36

that show me came out with yeah like this

57:38

is like him aeration of ridiculous

57:41

stuff i mean eight legged the

57:43

dog you mean it looks just like the bathroom

57:46

the dynamics dogs but like

57:50

i know what is this about look at

57:53

, is about getting headlines as go getting people talk

57:55

about it i'm sure they

57:57

are they they are the already inside

58:00

the doing this as a marketing is a expanse

58:03

ah so they can somewhere phones that's

58:05

that's what it is even though they're the see as

58:07

a one hundred thousand dollar vice it

58:09

is i i can't see

58:12

them making thousands of this even

58:16

you can get this and put it next year animatronic

58:19

grow do in a very go there

58:21

he done and done yes yes fun

58:23

mice i fi future as a museum

58:26

right now not

58:29

to get robots with maybe robots

58:31

out bodies are more your thing a

58:33

because jr alice

58:35

the chat bot isn't that microsoft

58:38

thing no runway ruined

58:40

now alice was like the old

58:43

a old the year

58:45

like equitable the

58:47

years i've years ago they were brilliant

58:49

idea sat thought alice it was

58:52

the l , spot it

58:54

was the first natural language processing

58:56

south thoughts and it was the thing to do

58:59

are based on eliza that's what it was

59:01

asked for a game get

59:03

all this the sensory stuff now of

59:06

like cost of it

59:08

was a website they for use back in like the

59:10

early aughts aughts

59:12

it it was you know back when iris he

59:14

was very popular in and so popular

59:16

sorry i or caesar's know but we're

59:18

almost and discord out but you could

59:21

eat up test your turing test odds

59:24

with with this little robot that little

59:26

was like that that that the before we and means

59:28

it was would means share these funny funny

59:30

our conversations robots ah

59:33

and you know on the heels of that a

59:35

google story of that google engineer who no

59:37

longer works at google who claim that you

59:39

know the google ai had reached sentience there's

59:42

also also

59:45

powered men are research lab

59:47

ai called blender

59:49

bot and you can go to the website it's

59:51

a blender bot dot ai

59:54

start a conversation i did it it

59:58

is strangely compelling

1:00:01

okay is so like do you remember it

1:00:03

so what i was thinking oh was an alice

1:00:05

it was pay which was

1:00:08

was ai that

1:00:10

was a twitter by and people

1:00:12

like we're so mean do it he turned

1:00:14

grey harper has a ball with in their

1:00:17

area so like

1:00:20

how is this like

1:00:22

experience like strangely compelling

1:00:25

lake

1:00:28

lake help with what mckenna

1:00:30

conversation to do have with well instigates

1:00:32

conversations and topic yeah so starts

1:00:34

off with random as a whole

1:00:37

slew of different topic so try to change conversations

1:00:39

with cool that there's man it's haitian if

1:00:42

you highlight over answers i'll try

1:00:44

to explain systems are so why chose

1:00:47

those answers i whether it's for

1:00:49

calling stuff from pass parts of your composition

1:00:52

or it's diving and says searching and so

1:00:54

databases or events

1:00:56

are trying to change the topic so he

1:00:58

tried to keep the conversation going like this is

1:01:00

basically it's a telemarketer stream

1:01:02

right like this is a way i

1:01:04

have to power the telemarketers of the future

1:01:07

just put it to our texas speech you

1:01:09

know a piece of software ah

1:01:11

and you can keep people on the have forever

1:01:14

and what is it coming so he

1:01:16

be don't try to break it is if

1:01:18

you play along with the system

1:01:21

it doesn't repeat itself and you can have

1:01:23

a it's almost scary

1:01:25

black mirror thing where like i can imagine

1:01:28

you know these we could be programmed with the nuances

1:01:30

and the the the verbal

1:01:33

style of the conversational styles of

1:01:35

you know you're you're right i've of the if

1:01:37

he just took that there was that black mirror episode

1:01:40

where they inflate the chat logs of are

1:01:42

deceased person create an ai

1:01:44

based on them and you know our

1:01:46

speech patterns people's be pheromones

1:01:48

are predictable

1:01:49

with you take they're chat logs

1:01:52

and you take the recordings and

1:01:54

if you combine that with the ai such as

1:01:56

this i i could you could i could see

1:01:58

a future where he could convince you're talking

1:02:01

to someone you knew with their personality

1:02:04

i'm about to try this out and

1:02:06

i love that the acknowledgements

1:02:09

are like one of them as i

1:02:11

understand the spot is for research and entertainment

1:02:13

only that it is likely to make

1:02:15

untrue or offensive state likely

1:02:18

yeah yeah we are out is so it it so

1:02:20

it is like twitter

1:02:22

the deficit living

1:02:25

, try out a blender bought dot

1:02:27

a i leave us alone site will

1:02:30

wrap things up with a few bits of fun

1:02:32

as this past week wednesday

1:02:34

was the ninetieth anniversary

1:02:37

the logo doing

1:02:40

ninety years of play as a celebration

1:02:42

i'm sure you've seen a bunch of videos and ads

1:02:44

and and social sets there is a a

1:02:47

walmart exclusive castle

1:02:49

set goes to a

1:02:51

exclusive at ease walmart it's not that big but

1:02:53

it has this nice for ninety years of play

1:02:56

of play that is also a piece

1:02:58

a nice less looking little sets that you can get

1:03:00

fifty dollars ooh oh

1:03:03

no you you it's a free gift if you spend fifty

1:03:05

dollars on lego sets at walmart got got

1:03:07

it yeah basically it's fifty bucks right you will be by

1:03:09

a by status at legal prices have gone

1:03:12

up also of late but

1:03:14

, just use this opportunity to talk about yeah

1:03:16

what was your first lego set to sure sure

1:03:18

you remember first lego set so

1:03:20

i still have and

1:03:23

eight well first of all wasn't all set i

1:03:25

got hand me down they

1:03:28

go bucket from my brother

1:03:30

he was like this original i still have it

1:03:32

is like a ,

1:03:35

bucket of lego and

1:03:37

and you know we just like

1:03:40

built different you know like

1:03:42

, and planes and stuff allison

1:03:44

pieces in there there

1:03:47

i will say most serious lego kid

1:03:49

taj mahal i loved them one the

1:03:53

they a bill sour

1:03:55

know all by my lonesome and this

1:03:59

it means my favorite ah

1:04:03

i am i'm a kid

1:04:05

large get i've ever gotten

1:04:08

really enjoyed lego

1:04:10

abbott and calendars if i'm talking about small

1:04:12

scale of pollen i'm just really

1:04:14

delightful and or

1:04:17

, the holidays the it like a different different

1:04:19

little piece that

1:04:22

lets you build something bigger it was harry potter

1:04:24

we did last year like those lot

1:04:26

oh they're a hogwarts ah

1:04:30

yeah yeah oh that's a really nice one

1:04:32

the other is one else eight underrated

1:04:35

in in jag oh sets especially

1:04:38

the ones where you could make them fly

1:04:42

okay

1:04:43

no no i'm not have libya mad know

1:04:46

that no one wants to move either oh

1:04:49

yeah

1:04:51

my first lego sets a the

1:04:53

recall was one of the sherwood

1:04:55

forest sets i know

1:04:58

oarsmen such as i i vividly

1:05:00

remember the the minifigs with

1:05:02

their the brow bone arrows and the black

1:05:04

archway pieces their part of those

1:05:06

sets sadly those those my first

1:05:09

had your standard pammy down bucket a lego

1:05:11

i'm dot back in the lego

1:05:14

over ten years ago now building with gary

1:05:16

care whether i have that i

1:05:19

think the first my picked up in the modern era

1:05:21

was the vw camper

1:05:25

the love the beat every camper

1:05:27

of course been building lot lately i've somebody in

1:05:30

the closet now the haven't built but like the

1:05:32

horizon zero dawn set about last week

1:05:35

love that on my

1:05:37

favorite one

1:05:39

ah

1:05:42

hum such that he are impressive

1:05:45

i love the setup become a ,

1:05:47

that's really all my saying i love the ones are more like

1:05:50

on models models

1:05:52

and i would even say like the sars scheuer or the

1:05:54

uses falcon like those are now

1:05:57

mean at the end of it was end of great

1:05:59

but said go for days and days

1:06:01

on one searches like , kills

1:06:04

me i'm saying

1:06:08

none of the architecture one suspects remedy

1:06:10

yeah or to libya love this as you liberty

1:06:12

that was really fun split the

1:06:14

other ah the delorean

1:06:17

sat recently and the some the vehicles

1:06:19

have been great ah , not

1:06:22

the i go back to the back

1:06:24

to campers of really pleasant

1:06:26

set know it did the reissued

1:06:29

or did under new version of that

1:06:31

was on their feet of beauty of oh the

1:06:34

i love yellow submarine love

1:06:37

know yeah i remember that was one yes

1:06:40

yeah highly recommend that

1:06:42

yes yes the i had the flat

1:06:44

in a didn't have the studs expose it a try to do

1:06:46

complex shapes our was still also

1:06:48

carrying the for beatles many things

1:06:51

and i believe that one was a lego ideas

1:06:55

oh my god yes one's been growing

1:06:59

so congratulations

1:07:01

, go for hitting nine years for having more

1:07:04

sense than ever sticky of

1:07:06

hi harry potter apparently people who bought

1:07:08

the new i castle set

1:07:10

some people that shifted i'm by accident

1:07:13

accident upcoming at the as

1:07:15

yet on and downs ah

1:07:17

hogwarts express frame

1:07:20

seven five thousand pieces

1:07:22

or so and it was a slurry ships about

1:07:24

the box of it so leg

1:07:26

or the get the scramble and announced at lower earlier

1:07:28

than they anticipated ah so

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ah congratulations to those folks as

1:07:33

well last

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bits some video game stuff out today

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as realising this spiderman remastered

1:07:42

of the playstation games now out on pc

1:07:45

i have it pre loaded on my steam

1:07:47

deck and they're looking for the free playing that game

1:07:50

ah and i think miles morales

1:07:53

is in be out on pc later

1:07:55

, year to haven't played that one yet has

1:07:57

so i think that on pc

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well

1:08:01

one hundred percent of both of them and

1:08:03

i was really

1:08:06

enjoyable , would say miles morales like

1:08:08

with a little bit too short and a little

1:08:11

little too repetitive of

1:08:14

the fighting mechanics from the first one oh

1:08:18

first wanted to see wanted little bit more in a recent

1:08:20

on stuff i'm by

1:08:23

dead the story lines first were

1:08:25

so spiderman quintessential spiderman

1:08:27

that at spiderman quintessential just love

1:08:29

both of those games you

1:08:32

are and then there's a game that i was

1:08:34

not on my radar previously but now

1:08:36

absolutely is it's called immortality

1:08:39

and as it this one of his smb games so

1:08:42

if is your first story it's the same director

1:08:45

ah amazon effort the impasse coming

1:08:47

out of in a box and of this month august

1:08:49

thirtieth but edge gave it gave

1:08:51

hang out of ten

1:08:53

sam barlow the director of this

1:08:56

ah the the conceit is that

1:08:59

anthem visa you're watching video

1:09:01

clips the years that the protagonists

1:09:03

as an actress who made three movies

1:09:05

but would never released and whole mystery surrounding

1:09:08

her so you're watching clips from those three

1:09:10

movies that they filmed as well as behind the scenes stuff

1:09:13

and an

1:09:14

unraveling the story so

1:09:17

really novel if you haven't played the previous

1:09:19

games and her story those other one

1:09:22

as well ah those are also

1:09:24

really fun to play like i'm sasha and the

1:09:26

month

1:09:27

her story very memorable yeah

1:09:30

love that game i just

1:09:32

finished stray this week the

1:09:35

the not as great

1:09:38

as the you

1:09:40

know intense audience reviews that

1:09:42

are like ten out a ten game of the year

1:09:45

like calm down a little bit it's

1:09:47

a sort you know like five to ten our

1:09:49

game but it you know

1:09:51

it's know that's adorable

1:09:54

and even though you're traversing

1:09:57

of like a post apocalyptic

1:09:59

were

1:09:59

the old

1:10:01

it's delightful and are not enough

1:10:03

games like that that that are

1:10:06

delightful

1:10:08

awesome

1:10:11

we'll wrap the show the weirdest thing of the sweet

1:10:14

we sort of a little bit of the mess and transformers

1:10:17

and when it and with little optimists and transformers

1:10:20

ah tommy the toy company

1:10:22

has an annual exam or the of

1:10:24

the transformers license

1:10:27

hair and japan and they

1:10:30

you an annual collaboration

1:10:33

with a non toy company

1:10:35

to make a transformers eyes

1:10:38

toy in that world's gonna sue

1:10:40

in the past and they announce one

1:10:42

at this year was a partnership with

1:10:45

can in the camera company to

1:10:47

do the canon are five camera

1:10:50

in

1:10:51

the transformers format so

1:10:53

as to transformers your optimists as

1:10:56

was as a respected his camera

1:10:58

reflect door

1:10:59

air decepticons and

1:11:01

the can in our five was

1:11:04

already small camera in the toys eighty

1:11:06

percent that size so it's for

1:11:08

for miller's cameras of and smaller they have

1:11:10

a twenty four one five zoom

1:11:12

lens on it you can actually transform

1:11:15

that camera non working toy

1:11:17

into the transformer and

1:11:20

yes office hold the camera

1:11:22

lens cover as a shield

1:11:25

ssssss as

1:11:27

the

1:11:30

i don't think it's even worth me asking questions

1:11:33

about this this is so weird

1:11:36

and this

1:11:39

is really bizarre they

1:11:41

give it a picture of him holding

1:11:44

a , cap as a shield is

1:11:46

love s is off putting

1:11:49

them else a fight

1:11:52

with this built for you like you're

1:11:54

a baby audio file a cyclist little

1:11:56

we the his you optimus prime and

1:11:59

vs

1:11:59

the our camera

1:12:01

not if a mural cameras yes me

1:12:03

oh sorry guys this guy this guy

1:12:05

absolutely i strongly considered in

1:12:08

a good come i think next year but picking it's

1:12:10

expensive hundred fifty bucks but

1:12:12

picking it up to take it apart to put a

1:12:14

little webcam in the land so

1:12:16

i could have an optimist in the camera body

1:12:19

with a working camera

1:12:22

or fighting it and old are fi camera body

1:12:24

and like machining and and creating

1:12:26

a highly detailed version of

1:12:29

of this often as but i love it the

1:12:31

lover the the lens cap

1:12:33

as shield is so perfect in

1:12:36

the cannon branded has the red ring

1:12:38

around around the yeah the l lens

1:12:41

give me great joy

1:12:43

the great joy of , seems

1:12:45

it seems so ridiculous it

1:12:48

almost seems like out of what's

1:12:50

the toy thing as the in as toy thing

1:12:52

and alley and designer com and

1:12:54

designers on the seems like added designer

1:12:57

con it's gases are the as an art piece

1:12:59

which makes it even even when the more die for

1:13:01

and yes i'll say that

1:13:03

that's where most fans

1:13:04

they get pissed either transformer soil

1:13:07

the transform of lies i

1:13:09

have played a transformer the optimists that just

1:13:11

power they don't actually transform and

1:13:14

there is us there are the faction of

1:13:16

transformers fans who do not like these

1:13:19

flexible because they don't actually transformed

1:13:21

so this is for them

1:13:23

also

1:13:24

robots in disguise

1:13:25

it said as if for the show this

1:13:28

week the thank you so much releasing hey get

1:13:30

silicone in two weeks time

1:13:33

sure you'll be there oh hi there

1:13:36

will i be there are miles or personality

1:13:39

will be there yes yes yes yes

1:13:41

can't would see you , costume

1:13:43

they're a bunch more friends from

1:13:45

the makers many are there beverly down and working

1:13:47

had leave on an amazing tune still

1:13:50

suit costume the she shared on instagram

1:13:53

so i always say me and i have far

1:13:55

to say here too far of so good just like

1:13:57

her thing it's so

1:14:00

the tell that in forget i highly

1:14:02

recommend fire on instagram

1:14:04

and like you can backtracked the entire

1:14:07

build process like bill

1:14:09

coming down don't the rallying

1:14:11

is can always go yards or of on moss

1:14:14

is gonna be there with his robots ah

1:14:17

yes it's gonna be bigger tax

1:14:19

messes probably going to kill us all

1:14:23

odeon a is gonna be

1:14:25

there gonna scale props ah

1:14:27

yeah yeah of yeah bob i

1:14:30

make stuff yeah though

1:14:32

if , in the bay area if one make the trip

1:14:35

to san jose it even about is simone

1:14:38

that so that's where we are with is this

1:14:40

to believe i'm gonna yeah yeah i

1:14:42

am course the shores k ah

1:14:44

man karen gillan future

1:14:48

i'm a great many others are

1:14:51

the does it this week thank you for listening

1:14:54

to shore could see you on that if you read my new son

1:14:57

time for me go to bed cause just got him she got to get

1:14:59

them swaddled

1:15:01

the head

1:15:02

that does it from other absurd ah

1:15:04

we'll see you next week and then

1:15:07

maybe we'll have we see some folks at silicone

1:15:10

we will do a silicone episode

1:15:13

the thing

1:15:14

the think about that

1:15:16

they'll be we are that we can okay ah

1:15:18

that does it i don't have an outflow cued up

1:15:20

so apologize

1:15:23

but they cure for listening

1:15:25

yeah