0:00

So are werewolves just a Hollywood

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creation or do half-man half-wolf creatures

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really exist now tonight We're gonna

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tell you about some hair-raising stories

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now our first takes us to a small town

0:10

in southern Wisconsin where some locals say that

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a man wolf has been on the loose for

0:15

over 20 years Are

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there beasts roaming the earth that have never been

0:19

seen before by man? What

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if other life in the universe just isn't

0:24

that intelligent? That's why we haven't found it

0:27

all of these questions. You can find the answer

0:29

to on this paranormal

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life Hello

0:33

everyone and welcome to this Paranormal

0:36

life the comedy paranormal podcast where every

0:38

week we investigate a brand new Paranormal

0:40

tale and come to the conclusion as

0:43

to whether or not it is true

0:46

or it is false as always I

0:48

am joined by the one and only

0:50

kit Greer Mulvenna happy to be here

0:52

But today is a very special episode

0:54

because we also have not one but

0:56

two guests joining us in the studio

0:59

Now first off we have Dan

1:01

Schreiber You may know from QI

1:03

no such thing as a fish and of

1:05

course his own podcast we can be weirdos

1:08

Right beside him is Reeze Darby

1:10

who you may know from flight

1:12

of the concords what we do

1:14

in the shadows Our flag means

1:16

death but crucially you two

1:19

are here today because you also are

1:21

two of the hosts of a paranormal

1:23

Podcast a little show called the cryptid

1:25

factor. You're joining us today for

1:27

an investigation guys. How are you doing? Well

1:29

good. It's not really a little shows quite

1:31

a big show isn't it Reese? Yes It's

1:33

the longest running show in New Zealand in

1:36

terms of podcasting. We started off as a

1:38

radio show even before Dan's time, but not

1:41

only is our show the cryptid factor

1:43

a Podcast it's also a

1:45

bit of a cryptid itself because it

1:47

doesn't always come on line on a

1:50

regular time It's hard to find and

1:52

quite often. We're a bit blurry Sometimes

1:56

It takes a group of men to go out and hunt for

1:58

it. Yeah, I'm just gonna. Yeah, Revisit

2:01

the I bits of auto sound in the

2:03

woods. Little bits of it with scat on

2:05

it's yeah. Well we're very excited to have

2:07

you guys here. Blame for excited be here.

2:09

By the way, Oh thank you we did.

2:11

We don't get to meet fellow paranormal expert

2:13

podcast as and so this is a huge

2:16

throw. What an awful! This is the first

2:18

time we've actually had a to guess on

2:20

the podcast before simultaneously guess ah but also

2:22

the first time I believe we've ever had

2:24

in person. Guess visiting the studio before. Yeah,

2:26

normally you'd have to get a sock but

2:28

of your head is Sheldon. Said a car

2:31

Driven around for two to three days and. We.

2:33

Want to kill you after this before? yep

2:35

on the Secret Headquarters. Thank you because that

2:37

sounds like the experience. We would have loved

2:40

her other items I had yet. He did

2:42

give me a special drink so I'm wondering

2:44

what that's gonna do. You're not gonna kick

2:46

in in about an hour fifty so we

2:48

do have to push on here today. Guys

2:51

will reside have you guys here because usually

2:53

on an episode of this Paranormal Life at

2:55

the end Kit and I decide whether a

2:57

case is real. But as you are our

2:59

guest investigators today, you two are going to

3:02

decide whether or not you. Think the case

3:04

is real. the lot of pressure I

3:06

will say israel but we. Have

3:10

I don't I drink. Get in and already.

3:12

That's good. Yeah, Yeah

3:14

I want to say before we get started. I.

3:17

Was very excited today for number

3:19

of reasons sign to have I

3:21

guess on the podcast is going

3:23

to have or anyone let alone

3:25

such prestigious paranormal investigators. So it

3:27

was fun this morning. setting of

3:29

the studio getting the scripts ready,

3:31

And then I think five minutes before you

3:33

guys got here. I. Went to the bathroom

3:35

and walked in on a guy having a shit. And

3:39

restoring I think it's that's rare these days

3:41

then that used to happen all the time when

3:44

I was a when I was a kid. easily

3:46

it was made a big gamble thin on

3:48

Daniel. I couldn't tell you. the last time

3:50

I saw man having a shit, it's been a

3:52

while ago. How did you feel. I.

3:54

Felt a little stunt like I've been kind of

3:57

flash bangs and now I'm worried this is is

3:59

coming. Quite fun day. We're going to have a

4:01

lot of memories. I'm quite scared tonight. When.

4:03

I'm lying in bed and I close my eyes

4:05

on i'm gonna see his him yeah it was

4:08

going to override the entire day. yeah it's

4:10

all second. also not toilet because I came in

4:12

here to filler to I said while I

4:14

was in the toilet and I wasn't sitting in

4:16

the one walked in i'm it's been a

4:18

guy did you see a guy smashed when the

4:21

lights lights to pieces? What is it like

4:23

I think it was like take over sweaters on

4:25

smashed into peace okay mine of is like

4:27

of diehards broken glass of who was a female

4:29

that angry I caught him taking a class

4:31

of insists I said i never that again. When

4:33

my favorite memories of from when I lived

4:36

in Australia i left at like eighteen and

4:38

so we to go into bars and clubs

4:40

as seventeen year olds and sneak inside. lot

4:42

of memories of kind of like the those

4:44

nights could say was so kind of dangerous

4:46

interference and I remember being in a bathroom

4:48

and the would say that was a guy

4:50

clearly and the cubicle doors shot and world

4:53

at the urinals and this this kind of

4:55

slightly weird dude what thin and he pushed

4:57

the door open and he walked into the

4:59

cubicle. And. He just I could just

5:01

see him staring clearly at someone who was

5:03

on the toilets and that was just assignments

5:06

between them. And then so suddenly it was.

5:08

the guy on the toilets do their job to do something

5:10

about it and I'll just never forget it. I just heard

5:12

this guy go. To. Seminars

5:14

shit most. Hazardous

5:17

efficacy. That's what's going on. Get out

5:20

with a close the door and never

5:22

forget that. does that voice the of

5:24

the boys if I'm was a British

5:26

level of politeness yet I understood a

5:28

state what I'm hearing about politely ask

5:30

you to back also sabotage It manifests

5:32

as that. I

5:35

love those little semen my and ah

5:38

well unless in one else has any

5:40

more stories about seen men taking shit,

5:42

I think what is Dive into Today's.

5:44

Investigation is blu ray. Our story

5:46

today begins in Woolwich County, Wisconsin

5:48

and Wisconsin is famous for a

5:50

lot of things, but on this

5:53

day. In. Two thousand and Two.

5:55

Or. Two thousand and seven. The date is unclear. very

5:58

lessons would become same for

6:00

a very different reason. For

6:03

deep in the frosted wilderness, lay

6:06

a creature not quite beast, not

6:08

quite man. And we're going to investigate this

6:10

creature right after a quick

6:12

word from today's sponsors. Alright,

6:16

we are in Wisconsin. It's the early

6:18

2000s. See how I

6:21

changed things up there to be a little ambiguous? You're

6:23

being very evasive. It can't matter, can it? Look, the

6:26

details here are vague. We don't know what we're

6:28

talking about. 2002, 2007... It's murky, the picture is

6:30

murky. So you are saying mid-2000s now? What

6:33

were you saying early? I don't want

6:35

to be a stick lover. 2007 would be late 2000s. It

6:38

usually lets a lot of this minor detail

6:40

mistakes fly. Kind of a mino, so I

6:43

wasn't expecting this kind of grilling today. Well,

6:45

we'll say it's the early 2000s. And

6:48

a young family is strolling down the

6:50

sidewalk of their neighborhood. When we say

6:52

young family... Yeah,

6:55

it's perfect by this gentleman's imagination. They're

6:57

probably 45. Yeah. This

6:59

young family... Even the kids? Alright. The

7:03

family is irrelevant. It doesn't matter about the family. That's actually

7:05

classified information. I can't disclose. Yeah, fair

7:07

enough. Huge. They want to remain

7:09

anonymous because of what happened is

7:11

so scary. Okay. They don't want

7:13

to be bombarded by press. Okay. This

7:16

young family spotted a yard

7:19

sale taking place just down

7:21

the street. So

7:23

at this point in the episode, we're just going to

7:25

do a little bit of reenactment of the event. I've

7:28

taken the liberty of printing off some

7:30

scripts for everyone. Here we go. There's

7:33

one for you. Thank you. Here's

7:35

some acting work. Let's

7:38

see. Check with my agent. There

7:40

you go. There's Dan's. Dramatization is

7:42

a big part of the show because we really

7:45

find it brings the story to life for the

7:47

listener in a way

7:49

that we don't often get in the world of podcasting.

7:51

This is pretty exciting because you guys might not know

7:53

this, but I'm sort of known for my acting. Really? Yeah.

7:57

Rees is always learning. No shit. Wait,

7:59

because we... look up to you guys as

8:01

paranormal investigators but y'all are saying you've

8:03

been behind the camera before in front of the

8:05

camera unfortunately he has been in front of the

8:07

camera yeah I mean he's known for

8:09

his acting not in a positive way yeah

8:13

yeah but we'll see how you know you

8:15

might have progressed well that's me yeah Rory

8:18

what the f*** am I looking at at the start

8:20

here the Beast of Brayroad written by Rory Parr's copyright

8:22

2024 yes it is I just want to address the

8:25

but also you left the address and phone number

8:28

field blank assuming you didn't

8:30

think you would ever get a callback

8:32

about this script exact opposite kid you

8:34

leave it blank intentionally so if this

8:36

script ever does find its way to

8:38

a Spielberg a big-time movie guy they

8:40

say this guy's mysterious this guy's aloof

8:43

he's interesting I should give him a call they can't

8:46

to be clear yeah there's nothing on it also it's

8:48

a it's a it's actually a one-page script I was

8:50

gonna say it was a two page script it's a

8:52

one page it's a proof of concept you know I

8:54

want to show that there's something here that could be

8:56

developed okay a Netflix project and Amazon Prime series I'm

8:59

needling you I'm needling a little distracted here let's jump

9:01

in Phil if you could do some dramatic kind of

9:03

sound effects kind of set the scene and

9:05

we'll take it away and

9:10

and see and go I don't know how

9:13

you don't know anything about directing right action

9:15

sorry I can thank you thank you I

9:17

think this guy's been on set for this

9:19

is interesting and action hey

9:24

that worry sorry cut let's do

9:26

that again from the top yeah yeah

9:29

reset the first word was good though I will say

9:31

that it was the energy going on I think yeah

9:33

that was the issue okay I'm sorry that was a

9:35

professional listen I know take it from the top hey

9:39

that yard sale I think

9:41

it is wow I haven't been to one

9:43

of those in ages I think we

9:45

should cut cut cut cut cut cut

9:47

cut this kit we're with some

9:49

a-listers here we're trying to be professional so if you

9:52

just you guys were great sorry you guys were great

9:54

thank you I'll take that criticism because I should have

9:56

read it through to realize that there was a massive

9:58

typo so it says I think We should

10:00

go. So there's no time presumably what's we as the

10:02

two of us? Sorry, my

10:04

batter should have read it. All right, let's let's take that

10:06

from the start. Okay. Let's go. Let's go I'll

10:09

just I'll just run the line. There's no problems with those

10:12

great those guys killed it. So we can go again I'm

10:14

okay. Okay finding what is it? All right, let's go. I

10:17

just have a quick break Okay.

10:19

Yeah, so these are five everyone reaches a

10:21

five. We get some seaweed fins in here.

10:23

All right I just want to say we

10:25

are very very we haven't even gotten close

10:27

to the thing we're investigating today Okay,

10:30

we should we should go we are

10:32

the sale is so irrelevant in the full

10:34

story here. Okay, uh and

10:36

action. Hey That

10:39

yard sale I think

10:41

it is Wow, I haven't been to one of

10:43

those in ages. I think

10:46

we should go check it out Kid

10:50

I will give your line to Reese. I swear to God

10:52

if you do not nail these must be that I have

10:54

to see you This

10:57

is no no because am I having

10:59

a stroke? Someone has to

11:01

look at my script and yeah, you know

11:03

what actually kit your outreach if you could do

11:05

Yeah, just double your line. That would be fantastic.

11:08

You different characters. Yes. Okay, so down from the

11:10

top Think

11:14

it is Wow, I haven't been to one of

11:16

those in ages. Well, I think we should go

11:18

check it out In

11:21

the end this young family only ended

11:23

up buying one thing and that

11:25

was an old box of miscellaneous junk You

11:27

know the kind you find filled with old

11:30

wires a tape player Pokemon cards But

11:32

right at the bottom of this box was

11:34

an unlabeled tape now curious to see what

11:37

was on it They hooked up an old

11:39

tape player and began to watch

11:42

as the tape played They quickly realized

11:44

that what they were watching was an old

11:46

home video The footage on

11:48

the tape was ancient. It looked like

11:50

it was shot with 8 millimeter film implying

11:53

It must have been taken sometime in the 70s

11:56

There was a shot of someone riding through the

11:58

woods on a snowmobile a shot

12:00

of a man chopping wood. Fixing a car,

12:02

there's a cute dog wandering around. But then

12:05

the video takes a turn. The

12:08

footage starts to show long empty shots

12:10

of the woods, as if the cameraman

12:12

is scanning for something. It

12:15

goes back and forth from the family to the

12:17

woods until the footage holds

12:19

on one shot in particular of

12:21

the forest. Where between the

12:24

twisted trees, something can

12:26

be seen staring back. I

12:29

have that footage from the tape and

12:31

we are going to watch it right now on the

12:33

podcast. Wow. Now I will say this is, Rory

12:36

is obviously getting us something very special today

12:38

because we rarely have any evidence, let alone

12:41

video evidence on the podcast. I'm excited. Yeah.

12:43

We usually don't know what year it is. And we

12:46

still don't. Alright

12:51

feast your eyes on this. Please

12:56

feel free to talk over there to Snowmobile.

12:59

Yeah. Wow this looks great.

13:01

This footage, this is definitely the 70s. Okay

13:03

so we've gone from snow now to wood chopping.

13:06

They kind of had the tape over one video

13:08

with the other. It does look like it spliced

13:10

a little. That's weird that it spliced. It's great

13:13

footage. There's something in

13:15

the distance. Oh

13:18

yeah. Oh wow. Okay. Oh wow. Good.

13:26

And the other guy is running. Sort of. Just turned

13:28

around. Whoa. Okay. And then

13:30

it ended pretty abruptly. What a dramatic

13:32

ending. Yeah. You mentioned

13:34

you did the small amount of editing.

13:37

Did you add the soundtrack finish? I

13:39

did add the soundtrack. Yeah of course.

13:41

It wasn't a screaming home movie. There

13:43

was a bit of noise there. Was

13:45

that from the actual video? I added

13:47

the noise. Okay. So it's a silent

13:49

vid. So I'd love to see it

13:52

again. Yeah. Do I have that capability?

13:54

If possible. Let's see. Okay we're back

13:56

on. We're back on the snow. I know we know what

13:58

to look for. Yes. the same

14:00

dog? Same dog as last time.

14:02

When we watched it the first time. The snow's

14:04

gone now. Right. Yeah.

14:08

There it is. There's the

14:10

big creature. Yeah. Okay. At

14:13

first you think it's a bow. Oh yeah. I see

14:15

what you're saying. It's got gorilla movement. Can we pause

14:17

when we get to the... Very

14:20

good question Dan. Because

14:22

you may have noticed a few little chaotic

14:25

frames right at the end there. If you

14:27

break it down these are two of the

14:29

final frames. Holy

14:32

moly. That's a ferocious

14:35

looking mouth with teeth

14:38

and massive canine teeth and a tongue and

14:42

okay. Yeah. Are you sure?

14:45

I thought those last frames were just the camera being

14:47

smashed to bits in general but no they're actually something

14:49

was captured. I do like the fact that at one

14:52

point in the video they show a dog just so

14:54

we know what a dog looks like so that we

14:56

don't later claim that the thing in the end was

14:58

a dog. And it's the same dog every time. So

15:02

the movement, I agree it's sort of silverback movement

15:04

but it's also you know that footage that turned

15:06

out to be fake footage of the skier

15:09

who's got the headphones in and doesn't realize

15:11

that there's a bear chasing. Oh yeah. Yeah

15:14

it was an ad. Oh. It was

15:16

an ad but the movement of the bear running

15:18

also reminded me and so

15:20

we're in a forest. It's Wisconsin. Yeah. I don't

15:22

know if there's bears there but I

15:25

didn't realize that bear video was fake. Oh

15:27

so sorry. Yeah I might have to cut that

15:29

from the podcast. Yeah it kind of shines badly on

15:32

what I'm doing here you know. You're like if this

15:34

skier could have been gone

15:36

I mean anything could happen in Wisconsin. Yeah I'm

15:39

just deleting slides now because I'm going

15:41

to show you the bear video. Let's

15:43

have a look at that mouth. You've

15:45

got a great close-up there of that

15:47

last frame image. Oh it looks like

15:49

a dental procedure. We're going straight down.

15:52

In theory what we're what

15:54

we're being asked to sort of believe here if

15:56

this is a true story is that

15:59

the guy is being eaten

16:01

by a dog or a beast and either

16:03

the beast is pressed stop record or

16:06

he has as he's being eaten because in theory

16:08

he should drop the camera at this point and

16:11

we have more footage unless he's eaten the camera

16:13

the owner of the camera here is displaying a

16:15

kind of Werner Herzog level commitment to the shot

16:17

even in death he's he's lining yeah and it's

16:19

what are we also the camera we're talking here

16:22

well it's a bit confusing the footage looks like

16:24

it was shot on 8 millimeter but

16:26

it was found on a tape like a VHS

16:28

tape I believe so it's almost like someone

16:30

recorded old footage so the dog took it

16:32

to a kind of video shop yeah right

16:34

asked for it to be you know yeah

16:36

remastered put on a different tape well dog

16:38

is I mean I'm saying dog and I'm

16:40

now that's kind of putting that in our

16:42

heads we don't know this is a dog

16:44

it's a weird well the same dog is

16:46

that was earlier in the text no no

16:48

I'm thinking this is whatever that gorilla thing

16:50

was although I will say the beast goes

16:52

out of view and then this guy's mauled

16:55

to death by something it could have been

16:57

the dog okay so new theory

16:59

the beast is just having

17:01

a good old peaceful look yeah oh

17:03

look there's a human there sees

17:05

the rabid dog now

17:08

heading towards the owner who is redacting the evidence

17:10

but the the the beast is running to save the

17:12

guy yes it's

17:18

going Jesus that dogs going wild on you

17:20

right like the like the man in Australia

17:23

I believe who punched the kangaroo to save

17:25

his dog that's right don't tell me that's

17:27

fake dad I don't know that

17:29

I think it was two women I know no it

17:31

was she punched a crocodile Wow I

17:34

read a was there a reason

17:36

and was she just angry was just shoving

17:38

saving her friend saving the ass good reason

17:40

crocodile attack and her friend

17:42

punched the crocodile and went

17:45

away and they yeah they're on the news so it's like

17:47

a sharky hit on the nose is that nothing you have

17:49

to be bloody good friends wouldn't you if you were in

17:51

a crocodile's jaws I think I would just let them have

17:53

you that's the thing would you

17:55

punch a croc for your mate yeah

17:57

yeah I would like parents He

18:00

was sure obviously you Dan. Oh, thank you. Yeah.

18:02

Yeah, my kids are too young at the moment

18:04

for me to risk any of my Own life,

18:07

so I think I'd have to watch you go.

18:09

Yeah. No, I understand I'm

18:11

ready to go Put me in the

18:13

croc Put me in

18:16

the croc and don't punch him years ago

18:18

in qi We did this thing which might

18:20

be common knowledge now, but I didn't know

18:22

it which is the crocodile's slam of its

18:24

jaws It's so strong that it's like it's

18:26

got one of those like it's stronger than

18:28

a billion punches or whatever But

18:30

it's its list is incredibly weak

18:33

So if you popped even a basic

18:35

rubber band around its now it can't

18:37

open. So yeah, I didn't know that

18:39

at all Yes, it's on for the future. You might not

18:41

need to punch if you're we're all nerds, you know, take

18:43

out your your stationary set Get

18:45

your rubber bands out and just get that over.

18:48

It's not you can really tell you grew up

18:50

in Australasia here We're

18:53

like hmm, we will never need these

18:55

survival facts, but yeah, yes fascinating. I've

18:57

learned don't pet a fox Here

19:01

also don't pet a file which is a good

19:03

one whoa, all

19:05

right now getting back to the gorilla

19:09

Just needed even just half a second more for

19:11

you to sort of go all that but it

19:13

just sort of cuts away So

19:15

it was almost like for me

19:18

It was very very well put together to

19:20

make it look as though it was a

19:22

horrific situation Well people

19:24

say with this video a lot of

19:26

classic names get thrown around Dog

19:29

man werewolf kind of sasquatch

19:31

are these any cryptids that

19:33

you've looked into or investigated

19:35

yourselves anything yeah,

19:37

of course and so I mean

19:39

the reason I You started off

19:42

with with gorilla and that's really what it looks like

19:45

But there's just absolutely no way there's

19:47

gonna be a mountain gorilla there in

19:49

Wisconsin, right? Yeah No,

19:52

I unless there's a zoo situation nearby and

19:54

I do escape or something Rees

19:57

let me surprise you there because I only

19:59

have one parent story that's ever happened

20:01

in my life. And that's the time that

20:03

I saw a Gorilla Man in Dublin. We

20:07

actually have a Dublin Gorilla

20:10

Man action figure that was sent in

20:12

by a fan. This is a completely

20:14

true story. I unfortunately didn't have any

20:16

footage of the day, but as someone

20:18

who has seen a giant

20:20

monkey in a strange situation,

20:23

I can sympathize with the filmmaker.

20:26

To be clear, disclaimer, you were about

20:28

seven years old at the time. Fourteen?

20:30

Fourteen? Fourteen. Well, for twice as old.

20:32

Fourteen. Haha. Hormones are raging. You don't

20:34

really know what you're looking at. You

20:36

know, I've strongly disputed the events of that

20:38

day, but it is some

20:41

kind of testimony. It's something. Well,

20:43

what we are talking about today

20:45

is often referred to as the

20:47

Beast of Bray Road. It's

20:49

a creature that has stalked the streets of

20:51

Elkhorn, Wisconsin for over 100 years. This

20:56

creature is described as being around seven foot

20:58

tall, covered in thick, matted hair,

21:01

and it's been seen walking upright

21:03

on two legs. Why is

21:05

it advancing like a gorilla then? Or

21:07

like a dog man? Strange, isn't it?

21:09

Interesting though, you keep bringing up Dog

21:11

Man, Gorilla Man. Maybe I brought that

21:14

one up. Because the other... It

21:17

was you, man. Interesting.

21:19

You say Gorilla Man, Arista. I've never

21:21

said that. What a Darren Brown flight

21:23

of the... Because

21:26

the other popular theory is that this isn't

21:29

quite a beast or a man. This

21:31

is in fact, a werewolf.

21:33

Oh, I do like that one.

21:35

That's one of course. That's a

21:37

two werewolf. History myself.

21:39

You've played a werewolf. Yeah, we all know

21:41

that. Oh, no, I just completely forgot. Oh,

21:44

yeah. Oh, okay. Yeah, and what we do

21:46

in the shadows. Damn, this shit doesn't happen

21:48

by accident. All right. Good

21:50

to have you on the show, Dan. But

21:52

yes, for those who don't know, Rees actually did

21:54

play a werewolf in the movie, What We Do

21:56

in the Shadows. Researching This case,

21:58

I Realize there's quite a lot... I didn't

22:00

know about Werewolf. Their origins can

22:03

stretch back all the way to

22:05

Ancient Greek Mythology. And you know,

22:07

this origins cover way more than

22:10

just the typical transforming at a

22:12

full moon. In fact, Obsessions

22:14

with were wolves were like,

22:16

and Thorpe's as they were

22:18

sometimes called it's right or

22:20

so prominent in the fifteenth

22:22

sixteen. In a way too

22:25

much about the shit out

22:27

really. Does

22:29

not Indonesia when early credited interrupt

22:31

figure out accepted as I hear

22:33

the other that a free to

22:35

assist everyone Look at him for

22:37

fifteen minutes and will say whether

22:39

it's are you have ended up

22:42

the report as well as a

22:44

service and some I actually be

22:46

a sensitive topic for you but

22:48

are they were actually a similar

22:50

to witch trials there were werewolf

22:52

trials were villagers would try and

22:54

locate were wolves in villages and

22:57

subsequently kill them. yeah you know

22:59

I met recently am. Someone.

23:01

Who said that was back in the day That

23:03

was a book written on where Wolves which was

23:05

written by a titles Sabine bearing Gould I think

23:08

was than a that's a Werewolf and said i.

23:11

Went on Boss or he basically a

23:13

says he wrote he wrote the book

23:15

which is basically the mythology, all the

23:17

materials combined about where wolves and so

23:19

everything that we know about. like the

23:21

seventh daughter of a seventh you know

23:23

that will that seven Me? I haven't

23:25

daughters one's bound to be where was

23:28

that kind of stuff or all comes

23:30

down to the. been having put this

23:32

big book a werewolf together is a

23:34

great story that apparently one of the

23:36

reasons that people believed in were wolves

23:38

is because they think and sabine puts

23:40

us in the book saying i thought

23:42

i might have got his name completely

23:44

wrong but he says that was a

23:46

part of a pregnancy kind of you

23:48

know i'm a lot of women say

23:50

that though have cravings you know know

23:52

be like go out and get me

23:54

a bag a call or whatever there

23:56

were few instances that have been recorded

23:58

were like a woman was pregnant was

24:00

passing a baker and was like I just

24:03

want to bite him in the arm and

24:05

eat his blood and there's a story of

24:07

a husband paying a baker to Alexa who's

24:09

like I'm so sorry my wife needs to

24:12

do this and she goes over and she

24:14

bites his shoulder and then someone sees that

24:16

and so pregnancy bloodlust was part of a

24:18

theory that that's why I interject I just

24:21

saw a couple yesterday yeah exactly

24:23

what you were saying so I was walking past on

24:25

my way to the hotel and

24:27

this couple just came out of a cafe or

24:30

a coffee shop I wasn't sure but this

24:32

guy came out first and this lady kind

24:35

of the same things really yeah let's

24:37

say it was a bakery oh no

24:39

this is fun let's needle his story I like that

24:41

yeah yeah what was it Reese was it a bakery?

24:44

Wait wait hold it

24:47

back hold it back

24:51

so the guy came out did

24:54

he yeah and then the lady

24:56

came out let's say a girlfriend partner

24:58

whatever she came on and then I

25:00

caught sight of it with my paris

25:03

on the right hand side and she

25:05

came out and she grabbed

25:07

like the her partner in a kind

25:09

of a you know fun boyfriend girlfriend

25:11

way but then bit him on

25:15

the shoulder like quite like mouth

25:17

really opened quite a lot went like that

25:20

and he went oh

25:23

so it's one of those moments where you go

25:25

oh what's going on there was that just a

25:27

fun lover's bite yeah yeah should have

25:29

gone and I think your girlfriend's pregnant mate so

25:34

it's just weird that that occurrence happened and then

25:36

you straight away you have that little story

25:38

yeah that is weird so synchronicity have you

25:40

never had speaking about Reese's story you never

25:43

had like a lover's bite before a little

25:45

just a nibble yeah I feel like

25:47

I've done that before I have maybe not as

25:49

ferocious as this one seems I

25:51

had a I had a really weird one I this is back

25:53

when I was single so I'm married now so this was like

25:55

when I was in my mid 20s I

25:57

think and I was out with a bunch of people

26:00

And we went to a club in East London

26:02

somewhere around here, and I was very

26:04

drunk. It was very late I was on a dance

26:07

floor that yes Read this Reese's

26:09

DJ. Should I handle some more script? Oh, that

26:11

was good We want to take a swing at

26:13

this one too, and there was a

26:15

girl on the dance floor, and we started dancing Okay

26:19

here we go and yeah good

26:21

Rorit Yeah,

26:25

I take a break now We'll

26:28

be back in five minutes amongst yourselves. I've

26:30

just run out of records Can

26:36

I advise you don't give Kenny lines because we know he's gonna butcher

26:38

him I think I would like to Request

26:42

no, we're just having a break at the moment Yeah,

26:47

so I'm standing there and she We

26:49

like we're dancing clothes, and then we started kissing. I'm

26:51

never on a dance floor So I was like this

26:53

is wild this is amazing and then suddenly she started

26:56

biting my lip and I was like ow And

26:59

then went back in for a kiss and then she did again I

27:01

was like what are you doing and then she

27:03

bit so hard that when she pulled back on the

27:05

next go Her face was

27:07

covered in blood, and it was my

27:09

blood Yeah, I'm like oh my god,

27:11

and she went back in and

27:14

I was like oh my god Oh, she just

27:16

eating my face. Yeah, she was eating it, and

27:19

I was like what are you? I'm so sorry,

27:21

but we're Did you go

27:23

to the club from Blade? This

27:27

night club full of vampire around here

27:29

somewhere It

27:32

was weird yeah She

27:34

didn't care She didn't

27:36

care I was like faces covered in blood and

27:38

she was just went back in and just like

27:41

you know There are drugs that you know people

27:43

say will make you start to chew your own

27:45

face, but rarely someone else's Really,

27:48

but that makes me think yeah, there's definitely

27:50

something demonish going on there Yeah, well, I

27:52

suppose it your story didn't happen in the

27:54

exact same locale But there is a possibility

27:56

this if this is a real vampire You're

28:00

seeing someone bite someone in the street, you were

28:02

bitten in the face only years ago. I don't

28:04

know if there's a community of vampires around. Well

28:07

I wish... Imagine if that was the same lady.

28:09

Yeah, it could be. She hasn't aged a day.

28:11

Yes! Yeah, Reeves was walking

28:13

by and I was like, you know, it's

28:15

strange but that woman is so dance type.

28:18

I don't know what's making me think

28:20

that but I just think at a club he would gravitate

28:22

towards me. He would really vibe.

28:24

Yeah. Lots of great evidence here. Wish

28:27

we were talking about vampires now but

28:29

unfortunately... Werewolves. I know what you're thinking

28:31

guys, based on the video that we saw, you

28:33

wouldn't jump straight to werewolf from seeing that.

28:36

No. It's more gorilla man, it's more sort

28:39

of dog man. Yeah on the close

28:42

up of the final jaw image you're

28:44

thinking dog for sure dog. So

28:47

why would people think that the beast of

28:49

Bray Road is a werewolf? Well

28:52

the explanation lies way back in 1936 when

28:55

this creature was first spotted. Ladyguard

28:58

Mark Shackleman was working the night

29:00

shift patrolling the grounds of the

29:03

Saint Coletta School for Exceptional Children.

29:06

Oh, you went there Dan? You

29:10

were one of Xavier's vehicles weren't you? You

29:14

had the stretchy mouth. If people could just

29:16

kind of bite it and tear it and

29:18

it always kind of flop back into place.

29:20

He was not as kissy bloody. But

29:25

Mark was patrolling the grounds and usually on the

29:27

night shift there really wasn't a lot to worry

29:29

about. Worst case you'd see some kids

29:31

trying to sneak in and he'd have to

29:33

scare them off. But this night would

29:35

be different. Mark Shackleman

29:37

was crossing the school field when he

29:40

noticed a large shadow in the moonlight.

29:42

It looked like a huge dog on all

29:45

fours scratching at the ground but it

29:47

was enormous, far too large to be a

29:49

dog. Whatever this thing was,

29:52

it noticed him too. And

29:54

without warning, Mark watched in

29:56

awe as the creature stood up

29:58

on to the legs. Oh boy.

30:01

Mark said that it had

30:03

a dog-like face but beneath

30:05

its thick fur the

30:07

muscular body of a man. How

30:09

can you see through the thick fur for

30:12

the muscular body? Those muscles. I guess the

30:14

hair levels would, if you

30:16

were nicely even.

30:18

Right. Yeah, this wolf has been manscaping. Yeah,

30:20

you would see the shape of the pecs

30:23

and you would see the, yeah. Then

30:26

classic Derby V. As it's known

30:29

at. Yeah. And believe it or

30:31

not, this wasn't the only time

30:33

he would see this creature. He

30:35

saw it again the next day

30:37

and allegedly got so close that

30:40

he heard it growl at him

30:42

in a half human, half beast

30:44

roar. Sorry, this is incredibly

30:46

rare that we would see something like this and we

30:49

kind of glossed over that. That was the end of the

30:51

interaction. But then he came back the next day, he went

30:53

home at dinner, went

30:55

to bed, came back and it was still there. Yeah.

30:59

He had him with the ninch. It might have

31:01

returned. He was driving to that school that day

31:04

going, I really hope it isn't still, it's still

31:06

there. He's just reversing in

31:08

the carpet. Oh, Jesus Christ. He's

31:11

like, Mark, Mark. Yeah. There's nothing

31:13

worse than something that is still

31:15

there. Yeah. Right.

31:20

You usually don't want to have to have

31:22

a once in a lifetime experience back to

31:24

back. Yeah. Maybe down the line. Sure. That's

31:26

fine. But, uh, the next evening and now

31:28

he's talking as well. You're like, Oh Christ.

31:30

Oh, he's gone home as well. Had a

31:32

shower, had a sleep, gone. Oh, go and

31:34

see if that thing shows up again. What

31:36

the hell was that? So they're both, it's

31:38

like a meet cute, but they're they're refusing

31:40

to meet. He could have gone back to

31:42

his wolf pack and his wolf wife and

31:44

he's like, you never guess what I saw

31:46

at the school for exceptional children. I

31:49

mean, I've seen some exceptional children in my

31:51

life. This guy was through the roof. Shackle

31:59

Man. I wonder what his path. Our. Lives

32:02

of the reasons why people over the years have

32:05

left to werewolf it having the muscular body of

32:07

a man, the fact that a feels like this

32:09

for him to speak English. And

32:11

even though this was the first

32:13

sighting of the beast throughout the eighties

32:15

and nineties, the creature was spotted dozens

32:18

of times by the locals of Elkhorn.

32:20

One woman reported the beast attempting

32:22

to break into her home, leaving behind

32:24

twelve inch footprints. Another young

32:27

girl reported the beast chasing her through

32:29

the forest. In. Nineteen Ninety

32:31

nine and eighteen year old girl with

32:33

driving down for a room as I

32:36

heard as under her car. When.

32:38

She pulled over to see what she

32:40

says. On the side of the road

32:42

was a huge wolf creature standing on

32:45

two legs. When she tried to peel

32:47

away in her car the beast leapt

32:49

onto the trunk but slid off because

32:51

of the rain water and he sped

32:53

home at I. Unfortunately I think we

32:56

have thought that does lot of interesting

32:58

anecdotes their unfortunate that last one. Sometimes

33:00

we see this a lot where people

33:02

hit other people with our cars and

33:04

then that kind of an incentive to

33:07

to make it a paranormal. Situation right?

33:09

Yeah that you know of that person who

33:11

her own blood prince kind of all over.

33:13

The bonus it I wasn't a human. Yeah,

33:15

it's legal rights. that was a a an

33:17

undiscovered grip. The ads when the police come

33:19

the next day and they say we're we're

33:21

looking for someone who had a hit and

33:23

run last night. Yeah, I would know anything

33:25

about the i notice a dent in your

33:27

car. Yes yeah no I was a wolf

33:29

man. Known. Off ahead. Sorry for

33:31

bothering us is actually get on Isis is having

33:33

on the hunt. Just quietly

33:35

as I let me go. But I gotta

33:38

work surface. i

33:40

remember the time i hit twelve little

33:42

bumps as i was speeding right past

33:44

the school for exceptional children of and

33:47

obviously i must have encountered some sort

33:49

of some sort of paranormal been kind

33:51

of stuck shot up of the cars

33:54

motor say any kind of of he

33:56

was sort of like i did like

33:58

mimicry so it was like simulating the

34:00

cries of the young kind of make me

34:03

sympathize with the creature. But

34:05

you can't even look back unless you're reversing to

34:07

make sure you got it, which is what I

34:09

did. Yes, they do say that

34:11

cryptids hang out in your school crossings. What

34:15

is this school by the

34:17

way? I don't know, it's really

34:19

never mentioned. I mean this case is taking place, what did

34:21

I say, 1936? Oh

34:24

wow, yeah, Jesus. Depending

34:27

on how exceptional these children are, I think

34:29

they're mostly dead. I read a Stephen King

34:31

book recently called The Institute, which was kind

34:33

of that, it was a school of gifted

34:35

children who had abilities of psychic abilities and

34:37

so on. I don't know, that's a weird

34:39

curveball, I've never heard of a school like

34:42

that. They still exist. I have a school

34:44

down the road from where I live, which

34:46

is for kids who are twice exceptional, so

34:48

it's a thing. Oh really? Yeah,

34:50

so a lot of kids, one

34:52

of Buttons' kids is exceptional,

34:55

twice exceptional. You're

34:57

amazing at two things

34:59

I think. Minimum, right? Minimum,

35:01

yeah. Come and juggle it. Yeah, come

35:04

on in. There's got to be

35:06

more than one I think. Right, yeah, otherwise.

35:08

I mean we're all good at one thing.

35:11

I would love to know how high this goes, is there a 3e school? 4e's?

35:16

Yeah, we wouldn't know anything about this, we went

35:18

to a convent. We went to a 1u, which

35:20

is unremarkable. Just

35:23

kind of regular children with no

35:25

visible talents. Oh,

35:28

no e-school. No e-school.

35:30

Because they'll let anyone

35:32

in, no exception. Yeah.

35:35

I also don't want to railroad into something else, but

35:37

you did mention the kind of muscular figure

35:40

of this beast, and it probably

35:42

should be said. I think

35:44

as a paranormal investigator, an unfortunate side

35:46

effect of kind of werewolf

35:49

phenomena and popularization, let's face it,

35:51

twilight and so on, that people

35:54

are pretty horny for werewolves these days. You

35:56

can see the emails I get. This

36:00

is the M's. Oh my

36:02

god. Riz, have you

36:04

got a... I

36:06

know whenever I've been researching werewolves

36:09

before, you get about three images

36:11

done, it starts descending into furry

36:13

deviant art type imagery. Yeah,

36:15

Riz, I assume you have an Onlyfangs, which

36:17

is you kind of just posing in lingerie

36:20

with the chest hair out. Wow,

36:23

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Life. There

39:01

were so many sightings that eventually

39:03

newspaper journalist Linda Godfrey was sent

39:05

to investigate the case and talk

39:07

to some of the witnesses. Now,

39:10

Linda was a hardcore skeptic. She didn't really

39:12

believe in any of this paranormal nonsense. But

39:15

to give you an idea of how

39:18

quickly her views changed, in 2003, she

39:20

wrote an entire book about the creature.

39:22

I guess. An entire book, not even

39:24

just a quarter of one. Not

39:26

even a pamphlet. You know what, I'm gonna finish it. It hangs out. It's

39:31

not determined. My last 13 books,

39:33

I never quite got through. But

39:35

blow it, I'm gonna finish this one. Yeah,

39:40

I finished the prologue, but I just think there's

39:42

not that much in it actually. I think that's

39:44

it. I'll leave it there, thanks. I'm

39:47

gonna stop at the blurb, but I'm

39:49

really feeling this. I think the book

39:51

was called Just the Beast of Bray

39:53

Road. But

39:55

I Assume people didn't really believe what she

39:57

was saying in that book, because only if.

40:00

You years later she released a second

40:02

book titled I know what I saw.

40:05

Not a criticism. Little Blue Button First book. gotta

40:08

responses? Yeah, no wonder she doesn't finish them. Seeing

40:10

the that and then the next that was lucky

40:12

should be just happy I'm completing her to. A

40:16

certain. Amount.

40:21

Inevitably, any book called Listen Up! A

40:25

cinema space. and guys, we've all been encrypted

40:27

hunting game for a while. It's easy to

40:29

talk about legends. Tell stories. But at

40:31

the end of the day what we

40:33

really need is hardcore evidence. And.

40:35

Seeing as the video that I showed you with

40:38

the start is essentially confirmed to be a hoax.

40:40

Of have my Rory need. It would have

40:42

been a breeze or without a carrot or

40:45

fortunately I I found out as late as

40:47

you guys are finding out right now for

40:49

their room as entire script and I was

40:51

like oh I need a source for the

40:53

video it's a hoax out the fastest swiping

40:55

that I didn't want to say earlier but

40:57

I do sometimes got a bit more skeptical

41:00

when a video like that with an ending

41:02

like that comes out. So when we talk

41:04

about the Dublin Gorilla mans like one great

41:06

thing is that you don't have any video

41:08

of it and that contained in our heads.

41:10

A bit more I is more real but the story

41:13

kind of slightly all bit weird for me when I

41:15

saw the video cause autism My cable that's that's a

41:17

hoax isn't it? Yeah I'm glad you're acknowledging it's a

41:19

hoax because now I can knock that our. I can

41:21

also point out that I did sort of draw the

41:24

people's attention than I thought was a hug soon. Iran.

41:27

If we run the types is going

41:29

to. Say look

41:31

at as you can tell hear that why would you

41:34

stop at like that's I suddenly and I didn't say

41:36

anything but I was thinking a lot of the same

41:38

source but just the i think we were girls on

41:40

a preserver his dignity in that moment. Can we actually

41:42

rewind again to the improv club scene Because I was

41:45

just really enjoying that and love to hear from her.

41:48

This instance, say.

41:51

Gg like kissing isolated have a

41:53

breakdown of. I

41:56

love that is is. the second i mentioned oh by

41:58

the way it's a hoax every single one I

42:00

thought so. I did like to

42:02

think it was a hoax. Check please! Hey

42:05

actually just back to that dance scene and

42:07

the fact only fangs and stuff. I remember

42:10

in my single days I also, it was

42:12

an early day of internet dating and Tinder

42:14

and stuff like that and I signed up

42:16

to a paranormal dating app. No

42:18

way. Yeah so you would go on and the

42:20

whole idea was you would be matching with people

42:22

who have very specific interests to what you had.

42:24

So yeah I went on that but it was

42:26

just me and five other dudes. So

42:30

I rolled a package looking at each other's

42:32

profiles and going, are these ladies going to

42:34

turn up or? What we dudes in the

42:36

shadows. Please

42:40

tell me, did you go on any dates from that

42:42

app? I slept with them all yeah. There's only really

42:44

one night cub, just get out the ball of keys

42:46

right. What are they going to do? Go home? Well

42:50

you know I did want to bring up the fact

42:52

that it is a hoax because you know on this

42:54

podcast we do love to tell these stories, we love

42:56

to have fun but we are also trying to decide

42:58

whether or not something's real, we have to play the

43:01

role of the believer and the skeptic and

43:03

this footage actually I think it was

43:05

kind of mysterious and unconfirmed for quite

43:08

a few number of years which

43:10

is why it cemented so much in the legend

43:13

of this creature but I believe it was almost

43:15

quite recently that the person who made it came

43:17

out and told the whole story about how they

43:19

faked it. So it is quite linked ahead

43:21

of the legend? Yeah it did, it had a very good

43:23

run. I know I've disappointed

43:26

you a little bit with the first piece

43:28

of evidence but don't worry I have exactly

43:30

what you need to push this case over

43:32

into a double yes today because

43:35

on January 27th,

43:37

2018 Danny

43:39

Morgan of Menomonee Falls

43:41

Wisconsin sent an email

43:43

to the paranormal website

43:45

Wisconsin Frights to

43:47

report something that he witnessed driving home

43:49

late at night. The

43:51

email said, hey I

43:54

took this photo Saturday night in Elkhorn

43:56

north of Lake Geneva after hitting a

43:58

couple of bars of water. with my

44:00

buddy. Probably shouldn't have put that bit

44:02

in. I told

44:04

my brother that I saw a wolf run

44:07

across the road on its hind legs.

44:10

I figured the full moon just causes animals

44:12

to act weird or scared, but

44:15

he said there are werewolves

44:17

in Elkhorn, Wisconsin. Wow.

44:20

I have that photo right here and I'm gonna hand

44:22

it out to you so you can look at this

44:24

evidence up close, examine it, and decide whether or not

44:26

you think this is believable. I think it's good he

44:28

mentioned the bar thing because what you don't want is

44:30

a story of me saying, oh I've done this thing

44:32

and I saw a wolf come out and then later

44:34

on someone's like, so what were you doing before? I

44:36

was in the bar, you know, it just described, he's

44:38

putting it out up front. Getting ahead of it. Yeah.

44:41

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. He's

44:43

like, I've been drunk thousands of times and

44:45

this has not happened. So get

44:47

that out of your heads. Okay, take

44:50

a look. I'll pass him along.

44:52

Okay. Oh, wow.

44:55

Like sort of skeleton-y

44:58

in the arms there. This

45:03

is, uh, that's quite

45:05

intriguing. Really something. Interesting,

45:08

isn't it? The thing is, is that,

45:10

you know, a werewolf is going

45:12

to look like a standing dog to some degree.

45:14

Let's just go what it is.

45:16

Yeah. So Dan's doing it a disservice here. I think,

45:19

uh, maybe I should do a little introduction to the

45:21

image for our audio listeners. It's so bad. What

45:25

we're seeing here is a beast

45:27

of ancient times traversing the land

45:29

in the dark of night. A

45:32

wolf-like cryptid standing on two legs,

45:34

walking across the road. Yes. He

45:37

does for some reason have tiny

45:39

little T-Rex arms and skeleton.

45:41

There's no skin on them. I don't know why he

45:43

is. Well, it happened to the, uh, skeleton arm. It's

45:45

right, Paul. Is this

45:47

skeleton arm? You can see the

45:50

bone there. Wow. But maybe that's

45:52

like, God knows. Maybe that's the

45:54

moonlight casting through, you know, and

45:56

also this is mid-transformation.

46:00

one could say. The four

46:02

legs, the front legs, have

46:04

not fully developed into their

46:07

muscular wolf form. Okay.

46:09

Right. So I'm just from

46:12

my own, you know, werewolf history.

46:14

I know, you know, what transforms

46:16

first and where it goes

46:18

from there. On this

46:20

particular beast, the

46:23

head is fully there, shoulders,

46:25

classic, tongue

46:27

out. The Darby V. We're not quite

46:29

the Darby V there yet, but yeah. I think you're

46:31

getting the Darby V, but you, yeah, the

46:34

last thing to go. Now also what's worth

46:36

noting is he's a happy

46:38

boy with his tail. Yeah.

46:41

It's mid-wag. He's not

46:43

smiling either. You know, it kind

46:45

of, this is a dog that's in the treat. I

46:47

think this dog was at a couple of bars as well. By

46:50

the way, he's kind of waddling. It's definitely

46:53

a tummy on him that says some beers

46:55

have been conspired. It's really got the energy

46:57

of like, he's running a 5k or something.

46:59

That does. You just need a number

47:01

on the front of him and you're like, come on

47:04

buddy. Yeah. Right. Yeah. But he's

47:06

clearly doing the robot. I

47:09

think it could be me. I'll

47:12

be honest. This wasn't exactly how

47:14

this evidence is panning out.

47:16

I was hoping it was going to be a

47:18

little bit more convincing. I thought you guys were

47:20

going to just be, well, there we have it.

47:22

Standing ovation. And eventually, you know, what I will

47:24

give the witness credit for here is this is,

47:26

um, there's a lot of detail and

47:28

it's very close to the camera. He got really nice,

47:31

uh, and close to the thing. Yeah, he did.

47:33

And I think he said that this was taken

47:35

from his car. So I don't know if this

47:37

is maybe a dash cam screen shot. When is

47:40

he driving? If this is a desk? Oh, I

47:42

mean, he's off-roading for sure. All right. So what

47:44

does he say?

47:48

And he's saying this is the beast

47:50

itself. He was driving on

47:53

Bray road in the exact place that

47:55

this creature has been spotted for over

47:57

hundreds of years. This is believed

47:59

to be one of the the

48:01

most convincing photographic pieces of evidence

48:03

in The Beast of Bray Road.

48:06

There must be more though because there's no way you

48:08

would kind of try to round out an episode with

48:10

this being your leading piece of evidence. I would have

48:12

thought there'd be a silver bullet in there somewhere. This

48:15

is the bullet. Okay. This

48:17

is the bullet. Just to be completely clear. Yes.

48:20

I assume everyone has made their conclusions at this

48:23

point. Yes. Yes. It's

48:26

real. Yeah. So, what do

48:28

you think about the origins of this creature and

48:30

of werewolves in general? We've seen some photos, heard

48:32

some testimonies. As I said,

48:34

you two are our esteemed guests on

48:37

today's episode. So, we will throw

48:39

it to you first. What are you thinking

48:41

about today's case? Do you think we have

48:43

enough evidence? Do you enjoy the stories? Is

48:45

it similar to creatures that you've

48:47

investigated before? I mean, Riz,

48:49

you probably know this guy, right? I've got to

48:51

say, if it's not me, it's disappointing because

48:54

he's clearly doing the robot. So,

48:57

if you look at the different parts of

48:59

this beast, the head, have a

49:01

good look at the head. Yep,

49:03

that's the head. Then do the

49:05

torso and then concentrate on the arms

49:07

of separate pieces. And then finally, do

49:10

the hind legs area with the tail. It

49:14

looks like a spliced together three

49:16

or four, including three

49:18

CPO, four different characters

49:20

put together. Right. There's

49:23

no way that's... And the face, yeah,

49:26

it's a no from me. All

49:29

right. Okay. Dan, don't

49:32

let that influence you. You know, you

49:34

still... I didn't listen for that very

49:36

reason. Fantastic. Yeah. Oh,

49:38

hey. She's back for us. Yeah.

49:45

The thing I love is I haven't heard of

49:47

the Beast of Bray Road. And I always

49:49

love when something can exist for as long as

49:51

a hundred years and multiple books have been written

49:53

and multiple investigations are going on. I think every

49:56

town needs a monster to believe in. I

49:58

think it's really good for kids to... to

50:00

even if it's not true to have in

50:02

their heads when they're camping and tell these

50:04

amazing stories because I think it keeps mystery

50:06

alive. So I think the evidence is a

50:08

bit of a letdown obviously because one's a

50:10

dog and the other one we know is

50:12

fake. Yep. Um, but the

50:14

idea of it is something I'd never

50:16

want to poo-poo. And so I'm

50:19

a agnostic middle on this one.

50:21

I think much like

50:23

neither beast nor man, I think it's

50:26

neither real nor fake. Okay, well then

50:28

I think the only reasonable thing that

50:30

we can do is throw

50:32

one additional vote to kit a

50:34

resident investigator. It's a no-kick. Oh

50:36

right. To be absolutely

50:39

clear, yeah. I realized he

50:41

was throwing you a lifeline there but I really

50:43

had to chop it off and let you drown,

50:45

you know. Who does for damn

50:47

are keeping the dream alive though? I mean

50:49

I love that. In almost 370 episodes

50:52

of This Power in My Life, I don't think

50:54

we've ever had a maybe, a kind of middle

50:56

of the road. So that is absolutely new territory.

50:58

But I appreciate where you're coming from, Dan. I

51:00

think even me investigating this case, I've covered a

51:02

lot of cryptids before. And

51:04

you know, there's a lot of cliches I think you see

51:06

in this story. People seeing it

51:08

in the side of the road, the wolf

51:11

on its back legs with the glowing eyes. But

51:14

there's quite a few, maybe because it's based

51:16

in quite a small town, it's more

51:18

part of their heritage and their folklore. The stories

51:21

are more interesting. If you go

51:23

on YouTube, you can see news reports

51:25

from as old back as

51:27

the 1980s of TV broadcasters

51:31

going and interviewing locals. And it really is

51:33

a big thing there that they believe in.

51:36

So I am also, yes of

51:38

course, giving it a no this week. But

51:42

I like it. I like it a

51:44

lot. Unfortunately yes, this photo does

51:46

look like something that Sid

51:49

from Toy Story would create in his bedroom. Unfortunately,

51:52

kind of just a mishmash of demonic

51:54

creatures and robots. I

51:56

would love to go there and I would love

51:58

to do further investigation. I would

52:00

like to see more evidence, you

52:02

know, we've been a little light this episode one

52:05

video that was clearly fake but fun and a

52:08

sort of photocopied thing there

52:10

that Yeah, doesn't get

52:13

you. It's once again fun funny, but

52:17

Yeah, I don't want to belittle the town and I

52:19

love towns that have beasts like you're saying Dan But

52:22

just based on that and really just

52:24

the letdown was those those robotic arms

52:32

It's very hard to get across he

52:34

for some reason has undeveloped skeleton arms

52:36

on a dog's body But the dogs

52:38

body is mid transformation idea from me

52:40

though was I really like yeah,

52:42

I really nice curveball Well, I

52:44

like the idea that mid transformation goes all the

52:46

way to skeleton and then skeleton

52:50

has to form

52:52

yeah Okay

52:55

We'd be looking at some sort of you know, is

52:57

this maybe a hybrid where a leprechaun was bitten by

52:59

a werewolf brother We all said no You

53:06

really took the maybe and thought you could bump them up I

53:10

think the real question is who was this

53:12

person who bit my face enjoyed it and

53:14

then who was this lady that you saw

53:17

Biting of a man and is it the same person?

53:19

I think for me that's that's all I'm thinking about

53:21

the fact that they are at Large this is not

53:24

Early to mid 2000 that is

53:27

yesterday Yesterday very very terrifying. Yeah,

53:29

we may actually have to do a bit

53:31

of on-location investigating. Yeah, as we wrap here

53:34

We've got some hunting tools here. We've got some

53:36

dowsing rods and EMF reader Maybe

53:38

just grab a couple crucifixes crucify.

53:40

Don't know the plural is I think the

53:42

you know, if we're thinking about laying bait For

53:46

this person. I think we get a large cardboard

53:48

cutout of down. Oh, yeah, we got

53:50

the real thing here I think we just drive

53:52

near a park style. Yeah, yeah, put you in

53:54

kind of a platter and we watch from a

53:57

van With with goggles. Yeah

53:59

what I'm doing don't you from the distance?

54:04

It's a trigger. That's how we draw the back in. We

54:06

should have one of those one pound for a kiss kissing

54:08

boots and I'll just sit there. We'll

54:10

wait. I'll make sure I've got more records. Just five

54:13

dudes in the line. Oh no, it's the dude

54:18

from the paranormal dating site. Oh

54:20

god, hi guys. How's it going? How's it

54:23

going? Can't believe we

54:25

got ghosted even though it's thematically on

54:27

point it just is disappointing. Thank

54:30

you so much for joining us for this week's investigation.

54:32

Thank you so much for having us. This was such

54:34

a joy. Yes, if you haven't already, do

54:36

listen to The Quifted

54:38

Factor. Thank you. You want to

54:40

tell us a little bit about what people

54:43

can expect if they tune in. Similar stuff.

54:45

Our first segment every week

54:49

is weekly world weird news. So we

54:52

take in news stories that are bizarre

54:54

from around the world and we do

54:56

a headline off and then we

54:58

get into those stories and then we get

55:01

into cryptid stuff in the second half of

55:03

the show. And so it's it's it encompasses

55:05

the entire world of the bizarre. Just we

55:07

try to stay away from ghosts. That's

55:10

just a good rule in general. We get we

55:12

get people on. We

55:18

have interviews with the scientists. It's science

55:20

based. You know, we believe

55:22

in science. So but we really have

55:24

fun with the mystery of the world.

55:27

Right. And you know, the show

55:29

is so kind of loose

55:32

and fun and wacky. You would

55:34

actually kind of on first listen, you know, if

55:36

someone's tuning in for the first time, they might

55:38

assume that this is really flippant about

55:40

the paranormal. But it's actually not. And whenever

55:42

you guys bring stories to the table, get

55:44

quite into it and have, you know, up

55:47

to date new sightings of cryptids and

55:49

things. I mean, the level of quality

55:51

and evidence is arguably parallel to what

55:54

we've seen today. Right. You know, sure.

55:56

I'm trying

55:59

to remain very quiet. But this is the most evidence

56:01

we've had in weeks. The strength of the

56:03

box. I love it.

56:05

But we had a great thing recently, because we've

56:07

got to a place now where we've made so

56:09

many friends who are out there in the world

56:12

doing this, like actually looking in the front lines.

56:14

And we were able to help put a bit

56:16

of evidence out into the world via a guy

56:18

called Steve Falpham and a lady

56:21

called Chi Kelly, who took a photo of

56:23

something that was mysteriously coming out of Loch

56:25

Ness. And Steve,

56:27

who's a Loch Ness Monster Hunter, said, I think

56:29

in the 30-odd years I've been here,

56:31

this is the best evidence I've seen of a surface

56:33

level sighting. And

56:36

he's so pragmatic about it.

56:38

He's not someone who will just believe

56:40

anything. He really says no, no, no

56:42

to a lot of stuff. And he

56:45

basically said, I think this is it. And it

56:48

was released into the papers as just three images,

56:50

because she just kept the three best images. And

56:53

then while we were talking to Steve, he

56:55

got word from her that her husband, Scott,

56:58

had actually discovered that all the

57:00

photos of 70 photos, because it was

57:02

one of those sports cameras. So when you

57:04

click, five photos in a row, thank God.

57:06

He found all the old photos. And so

57:08

we were able to take the photos. And

57:10

with Buttons, the third of our members of

57:12

Cryptid Factor, he's a real genius

57:14

of filming. He's a documentary maker. He put

57:16

a timeline together of it in motion. And

57:19

so we were able to put that down

57:21

to the wild and help out the story.

57:23

So we're in a place now where people

57:25

are approaching us, much like you

57:27

guys, getting all your fans and stuff, sending stuff

57:30

in, where we can help them amplify their

57:32

stories and get it out a bit more.

57:34

Yeah, it's quite fun. The longer that you

57:36

do this, you start to become a part

57:39

of the evidence. Quite interesting. Yeah, yeah. Yeah,

57:41

we started off just completely ripping it to

57:44

shit. And then at some point, you were

57:46

just the last person standing. You care the

57:48

most about it. Yeah. You

57:51

either, what do they say? You either are the

57:53

investigator or you live long enough to be the

57:55

witness. Yeah, until

57:58

you eventually get investigated yourself. Now,

58:00

do you two have any particular paranormal cases

58:03

that you would consider to be your favorite

58:05

or most convincing? Because we're always looking for

58:07

tips here. Is this something you think maybe

58:09

that we should be looking into? Well

58:12

there's the Chupacabra that was

58:14

found in Churo,

58:17

Texas. And there's a

58:19

lady there, a taxidermist. She's

58:22

not a taxidermist, but she's

58:25

actually a big game hunter. And

58:28

she came across this creature

58:30

on her property. They

58:32

managed to capture it and

58:35

it was dead, but

58:37

it had killed the Chupacabra of all

58:39

her chickens and as well

58:41

as some other neighbors. Her

58:44

taxidermy friend, taxidermied

58:47

it. So we went and visited it. It

58:50

was before Dan joined the team. But

58:53

this was an amazing creature. I

58:56

would look into that one because it

58:59

puts credibility

59:01

to the Chupacabra case. Right.

59:04

Yeah. Because I think we've covered the

59:06

Chupacabra a long time ago. I don't think we got

59:08

to the taxidermy. I don't think we saw that. I

59:10

think that episode of my event had differently had we

59:12

seen a taxidermy version. So we need to see that.

59:15

It's a tangible thing that you can look

59:18

into and she'll speak to you about

59:20

it. There's been many docos and stuff and

59:22

things with regards to it. And

59:24

the arms of this Chupacabra, were they

59:26

small and skeletal or are they? You

59:28

know what? They actually were. Yes.

59:31

A little bit. Something in that. Okay.

59:34

Something in that. Definitely big hind legs. And

59:37

it had the body,

59:39

it had a sort of a hide,

59:41

like an elephant hide. Yeah.

59:44

The skin was really weird and it had

59:46

big nub jewels on its bum where

59:48

some believe the wings used to be. So

59:51

yeah. It's kind of like it's a hybrid

59:54

when they did DNA test between

59:57

a coyote and a. like

1:00:00

a Mexican blue wolf or something that's got

1:00:02

these solid demon blue eyes

1:00:04

that are very very very

1:00:07

pale blue it's quite freaky. We might have

1:00:09

to reopen our case then that sounds like

1:00:11

a big development. It really sounds like it.

1:00:13

Yeah what about you Dan do you have

1:00:15

any to stand out? Yeah there's there's two

1:00:17

that um for me so one I like

1:00:20

it and this is this is the world that we get

1:00:22

to enjoy as a result of what we do random people

1:00:24

will hear us talking they might go home to dinner and

1:00:26

go oh I'm doing this thing and then someone will tell

1:00:28

them a story and they report it back to us. I

1:00:31

was recording the audiobook of a book I wrote

1:00:33

which is all about weirdness and

1:00:35

theories and stuff a few

1:00:37

years ago and I was doing the audiobook for

1:00:39

it and my sound engineer he

1:00:41

um he went for dinner at the pub with

1:00:43

his two mates and he was like oh Dan's

1:00:45

doing this whole thing about he has this thing

1:00:48

about impossible things that have happened to you that

1:00:50

no one believes but it definitely happened and it

1:00:52

sits outside of your belief system but it definitely

1:00:54

happened and his two buddies at the at the

1:00:56

pub table went oh my god we have one

1:00:58

of those and we we had it together we

1:01:00

both saw it and he was like

1:01:02

so what is it he said we were driving down a

1:01:04

country road in England it was late at

1:01:06

night we had our headlights on full beam

1:01:09

and then right in front of us across the

1:01:11

road I swear to god a potato

1:01:13

on legs just ran across the road and

1:01:15

he was like oh yeah yeah nice one

1:01:18

and the other friend went honest to god

1:01:21

I saw it too it was a potato it

1:01:23

had legs and it was running across the road so

1:01:25

that's one I'd like to look into more I've got

1:01:27

to find out the location of where that was I'm

1:01:29

gonna find out all there's a lot to there's a

1:01:31

lot of stuff I need to get the other one

1:01:33

is you're gonna have to cc us on those yeah

1:01:35

I will do I think our Irish heritage as well

1:01:38

can maybe play a vital part in these I feel

1:01:40

it's important that I said it to you out

1:01:42

loud because I think you're the boys for that

1:01:44

story really so I'll come back to you because

1:01:46

we need to find out it doesn't have tiny

1:01:48

arms that's the key yeah but two little toothpicks

1:01:50

yeah like that for arms yeah it actually makes

1:01:53

sense it was seen in England because we would

1:01:55

have eaten it in history if we'd

1:01:57

just seen it in Ireland that would be dinner yeah I

1:01:59

don't know on the run. The

1:02:02

other one is, well, I was saying

1:02:05

earlier about, I love that this town

1:02:07

in Wisconsin has the werewolf

1:02:09

as part of its thing. And growing up,

1:02:11

I never had a local monster. And

1:02:14

so that always was a sadness for me. And

1:02:16

it was only two years ago, as I was

1:02:18

writing this book, that I found myself

1:02:20

looking into the local area that I lived in, because

1:02:22

there was a famous story about how a road that

1:02:25

I used to take every single day was haunted, and

1:02:27

that people would see a ghost appear in the back

1:02:29

window of a car. So you'd look through

1:02:31

your rearview mirror, and there was the same ghost

1:02:33

and people always talk about it. So I was

1:02:36

looking into that and then discovered that on that

1:02:38

very same road, there's a lake, it's called Narrabeen

1:02:40

Lagoon. A lady

1:02:42

called Mabel Walsh back in the 1930s,

1:02:45

I think it was reported an elephant

1:02:47

like human coming out and crossing the

1:02:49

road and going into the lagoon. And,

1:02:52

and then it's only ever been

1:02:54

seen once since. So I did have a local

1:02:56

cryptid, which I've now called Narry, because

1:02:58

it doesn't really have a name, because Narrabeen

1:03:00

and tribute to Nessie. Yeah. And so my

1:03:02

brother, he lives in an apartment that has

1:03:05

a view over Narry. So he's now the

1:03:07

official Steve Feltham of the local area. He's

1:03:09

got peribinoculars, he makes sure to look. Very

1:03:11

cool. And I think amplifying local monsters is

1:03:13

really important for kids. So that's my other

1:03:15

favorite one, just because I had a monster

1:03:17

all along and I didn't know it. And

1:03:19

I want people to know about it. Yeah,

1:03:21

I'm going to be championing Narry from here

1:03:23

on in. I like that. Giving it a

1:03:25

name. Yeah. Give you a bit of a

1:03:27

setting up an IP. Making some stickers, get

1:03:30

some merch going. Yeah, exactly. Bring

1:03:32

those big bucks in,

1:03:34

baby. Research for a book. Yeah.

1:03:37

Do you think you'll finish it? No, no, no.

1:03:41

The prologue. Guys,

1:03:45

thank you so much for joining us for

1:03:47

this week's investigation. Of course, we

1:03:49

will be back next Tuesday with another paranormal

1:03:52

tale. Do check out the Cryptid Factor, a

1:03:54

fantastic podcast. You forgot the most important thing.

1:03:56

We would normally ask a

1:03:58

guest, you know, hey, what will happen? be a great episode

1:04:00

to start with on your show but the exciting bit is

1:04:02

that as much as the Cryptid Factor guys are joining us

1:04:05

here we are gonna be hopefully

1:04:07

if technology allowing permitting in the

1:04:09

next hour or so joining them

1:04:12

on the Cryptid Factor. There's your

1:04:14

invitation. For round 2 we're gonna

1:04:16

re-examine that evidence. Just

1:04:19

for tat. And we're the tats.

1:04:22

And just for the listener this will be

1:04:24

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sort of release schedule you might

1:04:28

hear your episode in about nine months. 20-26?

1:04:30

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1:04:34

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1:04:38

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