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Today's guest is an

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award-winning country musician and

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songwriter. He's out

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of North Carolina and has gone

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on to become one of the biggest names

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in entertainment. He has a

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new album, Fathers and Sons, which

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is coming out just before Father's Day. And

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I'm thankful to sit with him today. My

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new friend, Mr. Luke Cone. Shine

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that light on me.

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I'll sit and tell

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you about your feelings.

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Shine on me. And

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I will find a song

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I will sing and sing.

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And that's galvanized, isn't it? Mm-hmm, it

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is. You can

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really hear the nails go across it. That's

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how you know it's got rivets inside of

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it, you know? Make it sound so good.

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That's like redneck ASMR. You

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know there's just some dude who woke up

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in his trailer, and he's trying to quietly

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eat the leftovers. But that is why he's

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here. Hold on there as

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a guide, and don't ask me how this comes

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across my feed. But it's

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like day 600 of me spraying

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dog medicine on my hands till I can

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strike a match off my knuckles. And I'm

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like, why do I care so

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much about this guy's tracking a match on his

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knuckles? But dude, and at the end of every

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video, dude, it's him. And at the beginning, he'll

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go, now there's a sensory nightmare at the end

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of this video. And it's him going, oh, and

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it's like his sandpaper ass hands going

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in the mic, dude. Dude,

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it's worth it. Here it is, dude. We've got it

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up. Here it is, dude.

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We got one, huh? I'll have medicine on my hands in

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order to make this. Here it is. It's tougher. Don't

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forget to like, share, and be always good at

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it. The dog medicine blowing like champagne. I

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went to the doctor today. And asked him

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about tough, but he's sand in the wood

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with his hands. Oh,

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wow. God is for real.

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He's real. He's an instrument of the

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Lord, brother. He's here's my

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question is what's the end thing? Like

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what happens at the end? Like how is there

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a two? Here it is, dude. Dog medicine. Oh,

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wow. Now, what is the dog medicine? What do

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you think the real function of that medicine? Here

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it is. Get some. Can

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we get some audio on this guy's? Yeah, yeah.

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And brother, jack us into some of this

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guy's hands. Oh,

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wow. So this is a gentleman. You can't see

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him at home. Guys, this is sort of a

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Ruben-esque gentleman who is

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making his hands rougher. And then the sound

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is heinous. It really is. And

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then he just rubs them together, dude. Yeah,

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he will probably be the president. And

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here he is. He's

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trying to strike a match, dude. And

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he was striking a match on his knuckle. Now

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he can strike a match on his feet, which

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is which is feet in

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and of itself. Yeah. Well,

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it's wild. God.

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Yeah, I mean, yeah, we had a guy

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one day that came to his show and

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he's like, hey, man, me and my cousin, we

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love you. And look at him. And he goes,

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he's missing 70 percent of his skull. Right. And

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the dude had a cool thing, though, where if

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he like put his finger in his mouth and

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went in the other

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part of his head would kind of show up.

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Yeah, that that happened.

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Yeah, dude. Oh, my tight-filled Kentucky

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brother. That is wild, dude. You

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don't need all your skull to

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party over there. That is wild,

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dude. Dude, people are fascinating,

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dude. Oh, we had a guy, we used

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to have a really great, I want

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to say homeless guy, but a guy who had who

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was just kind of hadn't been home

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probably in a decent amount of time.

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Unhoused. Yeah, I think that's right. Yeah.

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Yeah. But

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when he smile he had a couple of his teeth in his

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hand that guess he'd fallen out or something and when he'd smile

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He would still make the shape and

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he would show you the teeth You

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know I was like So

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he just had him he just keeps that was kind

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of his party trick. Yeah, it's helped me out Like

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dizzy. Do you think he's like need money for

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veneers? Oh, I don't know now that's a thing

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Here's the teeth that I need. Yeah Just

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for proof. I'm actually missing these teeth. Just

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check my work here Oh

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Yeah, people are just interested I mean dude

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even like the places you'll stay like I

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stayed at a place Yeah, they're not like

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sometimes we'll stay at some pretty nice spots

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and sometimes You

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know, it's just a like an outdoor when

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the doors are on the outside. Yeah, you

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know That you've arrived at

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a certain level of establishment Yeah, that's

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and there's nowhere to go but down

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from that that's the top level of

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that Yes, when there's doors inside and

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then as the doors get more and

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more open. Yeah, I went

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and we checked in one It's

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god. This had to be six years ago

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and we chase like, you know, we played

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a show somewhere Columbia, Carolina And

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then we had a show in the Outer Banks

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the next day. This is like van and trailer

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no manager It's just me in the band like

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I'm trying to check into the rooms and stuff.

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So we drove from Columbia We're

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supposed to play a tailgate at Clemson the next morning

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So we're trying to like get that in make an

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extra like eight hundred dollars me and my guitar player

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and then get the van You'll play our show so

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we drive from Columbia to Clemson a couple hours, you know

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shows over it like 11 or 12 Yeah,

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so then we get to the damn hotel.

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It's you know two in the morning Checking

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all the rooms. I get all the bangs in the rooms

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and I it's one of these doors on the outside And

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I go to my door doors open. It's

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already open It's already cracked a

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little bit. This door is already talking and the

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The lights are on in the room and I'm like

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man. This this is probably good So

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pop in that room, dude, and there must

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have, it looked like the cicadas came out

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of the room. Really? It wasn't cicadas. It

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was every bug known to know because the

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doors are on the outside. It's been open

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for at since

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checkout, which is at least

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12 hours, dude, with

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all the lights in the room on go

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to the desk. And I'm like, Hey, I

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like, I'm, I'm an easy guy to complain,

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but I can't sleep in a room full

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of bugs. And they were like, Ooh, what's

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we don't have any other rooms. That was

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the last, that's all I see. But there's

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nobody in the parking lot. No, there's nobody

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there. Well, it's more of a extended type.

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Oh, I see what you're saying. Stay, I would imagine.

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Yeah. If they have a blender in there, that's extended.

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When there's anything to cook

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with, you've reached another level.

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Yeah. Another level of hotel.

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Yes. Some hotels there's one

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time I remember, I called down to the front

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desk. I was like, Hey, do you guys have, uh, internet

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and the guys like, let me check. And I'm like, let

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me see. Hold on. I haven't heard of that. I'll

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get back to you. But then I hear him. He's

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actually cooking it up on the computer.

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He goes to Google. Do we have

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internet Google search? It just, dude,

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one time we stopped in Lexington and I went

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in to check in and it was kind of

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during the pandemic. So people were kind of on

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their wits end here and there. Sure. Sure. And,

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um, you'd see people wearing neck braces from

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their reason, all type of stuff. Know

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what was going on. Yeah. Assorted medical

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devices. Yeah. Yeah. That was very assorted

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medical. Um, this

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dude I go in there and it took him forever, but he's just

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finding out. There's a room and I was like, is

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there anything I can do to expedite this? And

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he's like, I'm sorry, sir. And

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then he goes, you know, I used to be in

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a wheelchair and I was like, oh,

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he used to be. Well, that's the thing. It's

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like, he's not currently in it. No. And it

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wasn't like I was just out of a wheelchair.

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Like. work with me here, you know,

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it was just like throwing something from the

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past. I think once I had a broken arm

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at one time. Yeah. It's not currently broken, but

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it was. Yeah. Excuse me. Did he give

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you any kind of it? So

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he's making an excuse for just you

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trying to hurry him up. There's no

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reason to hurry things here. He's like, Hey man, give

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me a fucking break. Yeah. I used to be in

8:21

wheelchair. I used to be in wheelchair. I was like,

8:24

I used to be in the fifth grade. Like we

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can't just really, yeah, it doesn't really matter that you

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used to be. Yeah. And keep the chair. If you,

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if you still are in a, like, uh, if I

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noticed he somebody will try my nap, be like, what

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can I, you know, I'm gonna work with you here.

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I'll even, you know, I'll even take a

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ride with there or whatever. But like, if

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there's somebody who's like, yeah, I used to be,

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or, you know, but

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anyway, nice to see you,

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man. Yeah. We fired right into the

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dog medicine hands. Got fast dude. Do

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yeah. That's some of that though. Stay

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in different places. I mean, it's,

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it's, it gets, it gets easier to,

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it's easier to rough it when you're

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younger. Dude, for sure.

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Well, once you haven't not roughed it, right?

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Like when that's, when roughing it is the

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only experience, which was, that's what it was

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forever, dude. I mean, in the van, you know,

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the 15 past year van, it's like, Oh yeah.

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That long ball. Yeah. Cause

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that's, but when we had back rows out and it's

9:23

all the gear, so it's less than

9:25

15 seats. Yeah. But there's like

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six guys in there, all

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these amps guitars. Like it

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was a mess dude. It was truly

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a mess. Yeah. I feel bad for some people

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now though. Like I think of like, let's say

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you're a new artist and you,

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let's say you have a song that blows up on

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the internet or whatever, and then you're

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just thrust into like this

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really like official version of

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yourself. Even if you're

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maybe not like ready for that. Oh, I see

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what you're saying. Even if you just have one

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or two songs, like you can have something blow

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up so hard online that you have to. get

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a label and all this stuff. And you, it's

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not that that's sick, dude. I'm glad that

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people have the capability to like, to

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achieve that for themselves now. Cause that was

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something that wasn't really achievable up until like

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maybe seven or eight years ago, I

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think. You miss so much

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of like all those good

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memories from like the road and like when

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it sucked and like playing bars and nobody's

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there and all my like

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favorite stories, man, from like my

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music career, a lot of them are

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from that time. Yeah. Like from the

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like unofficial days. You know what I

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mean? Like there's no like the, like

10:35

an unofficial biography dude. You know what

10:37

I mean? It's like, it's,

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those are the days, but I feel like

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people are missing that a little bit. Yeah.

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Like if you just go right on the

10:45

tour bus, dude, like there's no, there's no

10:47

strife. Like that's all you know. It's a

10:49

good point. It's kind of like catch one

10:51

hit or one like melody that really like

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catches fire on social media. And then you

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can be opening up for someone. For sure. And then

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you go, that's your first experience being on the road

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is I'm in a bus and I play in arenas,

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which dude, that would be super sick. Amazing.

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But still it could set you up for

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some, uh, what

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happens when, when you

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start way up here and not that that's all the way

11:14

at the top, but if you kick past people

11:16

that have been doing it for 10 years, and then all

11:19

of a sudden you're, cause like in country,

11:21

there's a lot of these like guitar pools and stuff

11:23

where you like, like let's say there's

11:25

three or four of us up here. We're all new

11:27

artists. We're all playing for this radio station thing and

11:29

whatever. It's like, let's say one

11:31

of those guys makes it to the thing, right?

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Well, let, let me, so let me just paint an

11:36

example of what could happen. You're a

11:38

new guy or gal and you

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have a song that blows up and that's sick dude. I'm

11:42

pumped for anybody that that happens to, but

11:45

all of a sudden you're at the same level of

11:47

let's say in, in

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the vacuum of this story, the new artists

11:51

that you're up there with is Chris Stapleton,

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right? And then

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you're sitting up there. You've maybe have never

11:58

met anybody you're playing with. And

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they're like, all right, man, this Chris guy's gonna go first, and

12:02

then you'll play a song after him, dude. And

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he fires into just the most singing

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ass guitar playing ass thing you've ever

12:09

heard. The guys

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played 1000 shows, dude. And

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you're up there going, I

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gotta play after this. And

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I have to do it five more times in front

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of all these people. And he's gonna

12:23

just blow the doors off. It's

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like you've entered your Honda Civic that

12:27

won a race in your neighborhood. Against

12:30

the guy driving a NASCAR. It's

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so hard to compete against that. Yeah, dude.

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No doubt. And your song has a dance

12:38

that goes where? And it's acoustic. So

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the version where the dance is cool is not

12:43

even the one you get to play. Cuz

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it's just you and some guy that plays guitar, you

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met at a coffee shop. But

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do you think though it could be a

12:52

sign of the way that things will be?

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I remember when- Yeah. Cuz I remember when

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vloggers came out, right? Yep. And there were

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people vlogging. I didn't even know what was

13:03

going on. And people were- People

13:05

were trashing it. Yeah. People would trash it for

13:07

sure. And now, podcasts would do it. But those

13:09

guys would sell out, the

13:11

vloggers would sell out comedy clubs around the

13:14

country. People would come and they would do

13:16

kind of Q&A with their fans. And

13:19

so that kind of came out of nowhere. And then I

13:22

just wonder if the future is

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more- Instant.

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Right. Like instant success. Right. And no

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judgment of it. No, dude. But just looking at

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it. I mean, it's just the sign of the

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times. I think just from maybe

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in 30 years or whatever, that's just like

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you're saying, that's the only way it happens.

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Right. That's what I'm wondering. I wonder if

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things just evolve or that's the only way.

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But eventually, that thing will be monopolized

13:47

by somebody. Like somebody will figure

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that out. It's

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probably already happening in some ways. Either

13:53

the powers that be, whatever you call

13:55

it, will figure out some way to

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make this thing. Okay. the formula

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for how you do this and how you break this

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thing. It's probably already happening a lot, to be honest.

14:04

And here's how we do. We got a

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new guy. He's looks fucking really cool. So

14:10

here's this cool song and

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then go sing this cool song. And that's cool. And

14:14

then they're like, great. And that guy's already signed this

14:16

deal. And everybody thinks, you

14:18

know, what's the thing that people with

14:20

the conspiracy theories, oh, that guy's an

14:22

industry plant. Oh yeah. That's not a

14:24

brilliant thing. I don't think dude, like,

14:26

I don't think that's a thing. Especially

14:29

in like, if you're like, and look

14:31

at like real country culture, like people

14:36

would notice anybody that can button

14:38

their shirt up, corrected first time.

14:40

They'd be like, this guy's gonna

14:42

be something. Oh yeah. Yeah. Oh

14:44

dude, in our neighborhood. Yeah. If

14:46

somebody had a gasoline, people are

14:48

like, look at this. They're

14:50

like, look at this guy with his car. It's

14:53

like, oh, you working for the cops. That was the

14:55

biggest thing when I was growing up was always accusing people

14:58

of being narcs, dude. Somebody would get a new pair

15:00

of shoes and be like, yeah, Ronnie's

15:02

a fucking narc. He's working

15:04

with the man, dude. He's obviously an

15:06

informant, dude. This guy. It's

15:12

definitely going to be, but then it's like, where

15:14

does it, I always wonder where does it progress

15:16

from there? Like, where do you, like

15:18

when that's the new thing, what's the next

15:20

new thing? There'll always be another like version

15:23

of like, what's the way to

15:25

your path to like achieving your

15:27

music dreams or, or your comedy

15:30

dreams or whatever it may be. Like the

15:32

path is ever evolving. Yeah. Like, I think

15:34

really the first, the

15:36

first guy that in country music

15:38

that use social media

15:41

to his advantage was like

15:44

Kane Brown and like probably me,

15:47

like the first guys that like came to

15:49

Nashville, we had kind of our own fans

15:51

going on like the internet helped us get

15:53

fans. And then we came to town. It

15:55

was like, well, these guys already got stuff

15:57

going on. So, and I'm in no way,

15:59

like shaming. anybody that does that because I

16:01

was the first one of the first guys

16:03

that like, and I didn't even know I was doing

16:05

it. Like I was now people are

16:07

probably smart enough to like, they're

16:10

doing that because they're smart. I was

16:12

just doing it because I was like, Oh, well this will kind of like

16:14

I was like, you know what I'm gonna do is get all these followers

16:17

and sell them my songs. Like there was

16:19

never that. Well, you started on Vine, right?

16:21

You start was at the social media platform.

16:24

Yeah. And that's the thing too. It's

16:26

like, you don't know where the next social media platform is going to

16:28

come. This is a crazy thing. And

16:30

there's a lot of artists out there who are

16:32

like, man, maybe I won't find my way with

16:34

this social media platform, but there could be one

16:36

about to be invented. That's going to be the

16:38

one that fits you. There's always something because what

16:40

does it start with? It

16:42

starts with my space, right? My

16:45

space, Facebook, Instagram,

16:48

dude. Remember they also had like friends to

16:50

that some other weird things that no TikTok

16:52

wasn't it musical Cali musically.

16:55

It was before. Only where people would like

16:57

lip sync to songs. That was the only

16:59

thing I remember seeing it and I was

17:02

like, man, this is a weird platform and

17:04

they rebranded and it was the hugest thing ever.

17:06

Oh, wait, was that where people would do duets

17:09

together? Yeah. No way. That

17:11

was TikTok. That was the original version of TikTok

17:13

was that thing. I had like a secret account

17:15

there, like a fence account or whatever. And I

17:18

would go and do these duets with these Japanese

17:20

people. It's a lot of Asian

17:23

singers on there and they would do it. There

17:25

was always duets. You can do at any time

17:27

of the day with people from around the world.

17:29

Yep. Yep. I

17:32

mean, that's invaluable. Yeah. Music musical

17:34

dot L Y musically. Oh, that's a horrible

17:36

name. So they so

17:39

they merged. So TikTok was another,

17:42

I guess its own company. Yeah. When

17:45

you have a B flat or whatever

17:47

that is in your word of your name,

17:49

dude, that's I'm out. Yeah.

17:52

Not great marketing there, dude. You know, oh,

17:54

I didn't know. That was though.

17:57

Yep. Because I remember when it came out, I was like, man,

17:59

this is like brutal, dude. This is not gonna yeah,

18:01

they figured something out dude for anybody who

18:03

had the app already musically It just became

18:05

tick tock like I remember it was an

18:07

old app on my phone. He had it

18:09

dude. He was ripping Yeah, you

18:11

were ripping duets dude pull up some of

18:14

your do it Let's

18:18

get those go let's be our popcorn lung

18:20

in there dude, he's Well

18:27

now uh Is

18:29

it hard to make more is it hard like

18:31

once you've had you've had you've been real fortunate

18:33

and had a great career Right gosh the luckiest

18:36

dude ever yeah, yeah, and I

18:38

mean like that. I know I feel I feel Anybody

18:41

who gets yeah, it's like you get obviously there's a

18:43

lot of good fortune is going your way But I've

18:45

dude I've thought this a million times I thought before

18:48

my last record come out before the one before

18:50

that came out I'm like dude. This

18:52

is like the best I'll ever be dude and

18:54

like I everything I do from here

18:57

out It's just gonna be bad. Yeah, and

18:59

it's like I don't know why like it's

19:01

human nature to some extent Maybe I think

19:03

it's yeah, that seems normal like cuz then

19:05

like when I put my last record out

19:07

And then the fast car thing happened like

19:09

that was so unexpected like it was not

19:12

Never in a million years that I think what will be

19:14

the biggest song of your whole career? Definitely

19:17

wouldn't have cover a fast car would not been

19:19

on the list Yeah, not because I didn't love

19:21

that song but like I

19:23

really recorded it on kind of a whim because we

19:25

had some extra time in the studio yeah, and so

19:28

Sometimes those decisions can be the best decisions

19:30

you know and but I do think

19:33

I'm like man Well, you know I mean

19:35

I'm sitting here right now, and I could tell you

19:37

that today. I've at some point mulled over my What's

19:40

what happens next for what's my next thing

19:42

and guys like nobody cares dude,

19:44

and if I don't do this

19:46

thing Then nobody's gonna listen and right it's like

19:48

bro. I'm gonna be playing for 120,000 people this

19:50

weekend And

19:52

I'm still going well nobody

19:54

cares dude. Nobody wants to do anything

19:56

to see me or anything and it's

19:59

just like I have to remind myself all

20:01

the time of like, if I try to

20:03

have this conversation with myself, is if

20:05

I had the thought processes that I

20:07

go over with myself in my head now, if

20:09

I had them so, if I had them with

20:12

myself 10 years ago, what

20:14

would myself 10 years ago say? Because

20:16

this will be my 10th year in Nashville in

20:18

September. I see. And so I go, man, well,

20:20

I, you know, nobody cares if I post

20:24

this Instagram story and it only gets

20:27

only 150,000 people liked it, which is insane. And

20:31

it's insane thought process. Oh yeah. It's a lot

20:34

of folks, but it's like, but you,

20:36

that's what I think to myself today. And

20:38

I base like, well, did this post, did

20:40

it do good? And I'm like, and if,

20:42

if you feel like it wasn't, then suddenly

20:44

you're, you're not good 150,000 people had never

20:47

even heard of me before.

20:49

And like never, ever. So,

20:52

and then again, I'm like, also, I got two little

20:54

kids at home and like my oldest son isn't even

20:57

two yet. Oh, so he definitely

20:59

is probably still eating for free over there.

21:01

He's not pulling his way. It's brutal. You

21:03

know, it's got to get to work, you

21:05

know, I mean, it's time. They should have.

21:08

I love, I know how there's a lot of play pins for

21:10

children, but how about a work pin? We

21:14

don't need a lot of work in there, but things that

21:16

could be considered play. Yeah. You know what

21:18

I mean? Like hit this nail into this

21:21

thing. Right. So yes. But how do we

21:23

get like chain mail gloves on so that

21:25

they don't hurt themselves, you

21:27

know, like a chain mail

21:29

mittens for your child. So

21:31

you can have a Game

21:33

of Thrones, Halloween costume. Chain

21:35

mail, chain mail children, dude,

21:37

divs on that band. Oh,

21:40

that's a chain mail. Children is sick, dude. Chain

21:43

mail. Yeah. So on that, like,

21:45

uh, like, like post-punk

21:48

like chain mail children, chain mail children. That's how I'm

21:50

going to see tonight. Basement East chain

21:53

mail children, dude. Are they playing tonight? They're playing tonight.

21:55

Chain mail children. Yeah. Damn dude. I heard about them.

21:57

We're not here about that. about

22:00

it on this past week. Oh, really? And

22:02

yeah, and myself. Yeah. I don't know

22:04

if that was it. That was the

22:07

first reference to their career. Yeah. Yeah.

22:09

Yeah. It was. Yeah. I

22:12

remember, um, I

22:14

went to, oh Marilyn Manson was the first show

22:16

that ever went to, um, what

22:19

was that like? It was scary dude. How

22:22

old were you? I was 16. They

22:24

played in a bar. Oh man. Maybe I was 15, 15 or

22:26

16 around there. You

22:28

say they like the

22:30

band or yeah. Like, is there a band? Is it

22:32

like, Oh, is Marilyn Manson? Is it just him? Like,

22:34

no, it's, he has a, there's a band and stuff.

22:37

Like I've never, like I've never seen the show. Yeah.

22:39

So is it like, is there a band? Yeah.

22:42

Like you can't really think of like somebody

22:44

being behind that guy with a trumpet, you

22:46

know, like a march, like a drum line.

22:48

Yeah. Who'd they

22:50

have that Twiggy Ramirez? They, um,

22:53

I don't know who's still in it. Oh, so

22:56

this is like, there's a whole, there's kind of

22:58

a persona to the band as well then. Oh

23:00

yeah. The whole band was like, I think semi

23:02

deceased or whatever is what they were going for.

23:05

Semi deceased. Another great man. By the

23:07

way, we got a trademark all these

23:09

dude, semi deceased, opening for chain mail

23:12

kit, chain mail children. Oh, that happens.

23:16

And there's Mosh Pit training. If you show up

23:18

a half hour early, bro, that

23:21

was the best safety training. How to stay

23:23

safe in the Mosh Pit. Dude, my buddy

23:25

used to referee Mosh Pits and he would

23:27

give him like 50 bucks a night or

23:29

something. Wait. So is there a penalties? Like,

23:34

is there laundry on the field? Like, is he

23:36

like, beep, beep, beep, but hold on, dude. You

23:39

hit that guy, improper, improper. Is

23:42

it like a bouncer situation? I think,

23:44

yeah, he's just like, he

23:47

was the guy that's like, but he, he

23:49

wasn't like, don't hurt this guy. He was like, just

23:51

don't call him the stage. No, he was. No, away

23:53

from the state. No, he was like, once the Mosh

23:55

Pit got going, he would kind of cruise in and

23:58

out of it, kind of like keeping things cool. whistle,

24:00

sometimes a little flashlight. It'd be sick to

24:03

have a guy in there that's just like,

24:06

you get a couple of lesser known UFC

24:08

guys, and you just kind

24:10

of put them in the crowd, and you're

24:12

like, dude, just wreck people in there. You

24:15

know what I'm like, if some guy's out of hand, just

24:18

flatline this dude, right, in front of everybody.

24:20

Everyone's like, man, we should chill a little

24:22

bit, you know? Yes, just become

24:24

your own policeman. Yeah, this is it. Oh, okay. Oh,

24:27

that guy didn't like some of the other guys'

24:29

behavior. So that guy was, in theory, what your

24:31

friend was, what I just said. You

24:34

go in and just jaw a guy and

24:36

make an example out of somebody. I love

24:38

that, dude. What a gig, dude. $50?

24:41

That seems underpaid for that thing a little

24:43

bit, dude. I think, yeah, we probably, they

24:45

might have been some fiscal

24:48

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24:51

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