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He has a special that just premiered
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last year called The Speed of Light.
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He's touring now everywhere. I'm grateful
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to get to spend time with
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him. Today's guest is Matt McCusker.
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Well, what have
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you been watching?
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Have you been
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watching NBA finals
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or War
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in Gaza? More
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War in Gaza, honestly. Yeah, I haven't caught
1:52
a lot of the finals. Yeah. I'm being,
1:54
you know, bombarded with the footage of the
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war. Opinions about it. Everyone, you know, people
1:58
have a different take. Yeah,
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people have I guess a lot of different takes over there. I
2:03
don't even know what ending it is in. I think
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it's in overtime. I think they've been going for a while. Yeah,
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it seems like it's kind of
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a... Yeah, you feel
2:13
like a referee would step
2:16
in. Yeah, you think? And
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mitigate, because it feels like it's
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like a 10-run rule genocide over
2:23
there. Yeah, that's
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like the popular opinion that they're being totally
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genocided. They throw out the kids and you're like,
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damn, that's terrible. But then you get people
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going, hey, why can't Israel defend itself?
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And you go, all right, that's a fair point
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too. Oh, yeah, no, that's definitely a fair point.
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Yeah, I have no idea, man. I think it's
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awful. And it's like I hear a lot of people
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talk about it with certainty. And I'm like, yeah,
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sure. Anytime I watch a video about ProPalSign, I'm
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like, okay, I see that. And then we had
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RFK on our podcast yesterday, and he was like,
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actually, Israel rules. And
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we're like, okay, those are good points too. But
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it's very bad, from what I understand. The footage I see is
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really bad, and I just – I hope they can figure it out.
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But it looks like they're going to have to – a lot
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more people are going to have to die, and then they're going to maybe
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figure it out. Because the U.S. could
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shut it down, couldn't they? It seems
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like we could. Yeah. It seems like
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we could jump in and shut it
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down, you know? But we fund Israel.
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I don't sound like that Netanyahu guy.
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Yeah, he's a shady character. That
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guy seems like a just – yeah,
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like a control pervert or something. Yeah, he seems like a
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– like, for real, a bad guy. He seems like a
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real deal bad guy. Even if you just look at him
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like, oh, that's the bad guy. If
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you asked a four-year-old, right, like, who's the bad
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guy here, they would
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immediately pick out that dude. Also, whenever someone's
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been the president for like 27 years, that's
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usually the case where it's like, all right,
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the U.S. should go to war with both
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of them. We should start bombing Israel and
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Palestine until they both stop. Maybe.
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I don't know. I'm spitballing. I think
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I've always thought we should give Mississippi
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to Palestine. That's not bad. One of
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them's going to get Mississippi. to loser
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gets Mississippi or you know I'm saying
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give Palestine a place here you know
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that'd be cool I'd be done with that
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because then at least the people would have a place to
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be you know where they could true like
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not be in competition I guess
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with their neighbors and live at peace you know
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but yeah I don't know it I don't know
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I don't know a ton
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about it I just I just feel like a
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certain way you know yeah yeah I'll watch Norman
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Finkelstein and I'm like holy shit this guy and
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I'm like he's Jewish so he's got the inside
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track and then I watch people talk about him
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like he's he's a piece of shit it's like it's a
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it's a bad thing the student protests are crazy too
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then you have peace demonstrations that fight each
4:38
other over the issue and it's like
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it's kind of larping like
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when the college kids start like it's a
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renaissance fair kind of I mean I hate
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you know I don't mean and I don't
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mean like belittle like that but then it's
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like and then the craziest part was at
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Ole Miss they started yelling USA it's like
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really yeah which side was the only USA
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oh the frat boys the frat boys yeah
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came in and they were like don't bring
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the any of this shit around here they're
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kind of playing risk in real life they
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were America and they came in like yeah
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dude fuck don't touch the flag America rules
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yeah yeah I think when people start taking
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down the flag I guess that makes total sense too
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you know yeah you know you can you can fight
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about anything really you know yeah that's one thing to
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go to like a news story and just be like
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alright on this team I'm gonna fight these guys I
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think sometimes you do you think oh maybe we're past
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war but maybe that's just a
5:28
side effect of living in America and not realizing
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that a lot of people still live in like
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a lot of conflict you know yeah
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no it does it seems more and more ridiculous it seems
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like like back in the day so it was normal you
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know at least back then like slavery was a worldwide institution
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that everyone was like yeah this is just how it is
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and I wonder if war is
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gonna become that in like 50 years
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where it's like dude you guys are going to war it's
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like shit we didn't know because it is
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it's insane but it's like if someone attacks you
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you have to attack them back to stop them from
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attacking you so it's one of those things
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it's hard yeah hardest It'd be nice, but it
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does seem more and more ridiculous, especially when you have
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like the politicians who are like We
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gotta love everyone. We need to like include Marginalized
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and they're like go bomb the fuck out of
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those guys. You're like, all right, that's for
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sure That's a weird change of pace.
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But yeah, yeah, that's it. Yeah,
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you start to realize like oh this it's all
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a bunch of bullshit Kind of
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like it's all like um Yeah,
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I don't even know what I'm trying it's like No,
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it's it's absurd. It was becoming absurd now cuz
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it's just kind of like well, you can see
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why it's happening I feel like it used to
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be this mirage like we're fighting for the country
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and stuff And now it's like well now people
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are like, what do you mean? You don't even
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care about our country like our government's just letting
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millions of people in Eric
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Adams just said that they should let
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illegal immigrants. This is a fucking He
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said they should let illegal immigrants Be
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lifeguards at pools, which is
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a job that is apparently in high demand
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Because we don't have enough
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people doing the job
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That's I mean dude I had a community pool in
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Philly that we would get shut down because there were
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no lifeguards and he used to drive me crazy Oh,
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so it's a real thing. There are there is a
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weirdly there's a lack of lifeguards in like at least
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in Philadelphia There were it was hard. They're hard to
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come across. I mean, it's pretty funny, but
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he said because they're excellent swimmers Those
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jobs that we are in high demand
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We could expedite How
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do we have a large body of
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people that are in our city and
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country that are excellent swimmers
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and At the
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same time we need lifeguards And
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the only obstacle is that we will give them the right of right to become a
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lifeguard That
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uh, if you say illegal aliens are great swimmers,
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that's kind of like a set up for a
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pretty easy joke
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about You know Mexican dudes well, next
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is not Mexican. They didn't like there's
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not even it's all desert I mean
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I could see maybe Cubans I could
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see Puerto
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Ricans maybe Nova Scotians or somebody would
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have to swim here, but That's
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the joke. Isn't that the joke though Mexican dudes
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say they swam here across some river But I
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mean I would say I don't did that I
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think so, but it could be wrong. What could
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it be? I could be wrong. I could be
8:26
I could be oh the Rio Grande Yeah, I
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think that's like the final like in the Oregon Trail
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when you have to do that final River. Hmm Yeah,
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I think that's the final thing they got to do
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is well, that's not that's like knee-deep but oh
8:39
wow Yeah, maybe that is the final thing there's some
8:41
of them congratulating their friends Yeah,
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they got it They got to put out like
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an inner city Bay watch as like lifeguard propaganda
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to get people stoked on life guarding again, dude
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Yeah, why don't we have a Mexican Bay watch?
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Big rusty
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Life guard that's what I'm saying That
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was when life guarding was cool now like nobody wants to
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be a lifeguard because it's kind of like you know It's
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not as cool as it was yeah, ham Anderson. They could
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have yeah, just like a bunch of band-aids floating in the pool
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It'd be fine to be tight Dude
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I would go I go run across a border
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every day I Started
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drowning get some CPR True
9:20
did you they got it? They got to
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fire something up because it does suck when you want to go to
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a pool in your neighborhood and they're like Oh, we're closed and you're
9:26
like why like we don't have lifeguards You're like dude you fucking serious,
9:28
but how do you have a lifeguard? Usually they would let a 15
9:31
year old or 16 year old kid. Yeah, taller
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than some of the other kids and He
9:36
took a CPR class. Yeah, right or
9:38
learned it online They
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would let him be the lifeguard.
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How was that? When did that stop? I
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don't know. I think it still is kids. I think they just don't
9:48
want to work. I guess I don't know what it is Cuz it's
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an easy. It's a cake job, dude You're just sitting there on the
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high chair below your lifeguard. No, I've just I've
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watched them Yeah, I've been watching them for a
9:56
long time, but it's like it seems easy. You
9:59
just chose in a The pool, it's easy, the ocean is
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real. A pool, it's like, dude, just
10:03
keep it out, make sure nobody drowns. Oh
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yeah, pool, that guy wasn't watching kids. A
10:07
lot of times it seemed like he was
10:09
just trying to smash like any chicks or
10:11
moms or whatever. Like there'd be four drowning
10:13
kids and he'd be over there fucking just
10:15
doing chest
10:18
compressions on a divorce. That's
10:21
the perks of the job. That's crazy, kids
10:23
don't wanna do that. It's probably like 15
10:26
bucks an hour hooking up with moms. Sunshine,
10:28
and it's the best your body is
10:30
probably the healthiest you're gonna be. You
10:33
still have excess,
10:36
you still have like cord
10:38
blood in your system or whatever. Yeah
10:40
man, you got the platelets and all that
10:42
stuff. Yeah and you can also do that thing where everyone
10:44
has, public pools, everyone has to get out
10:47
for some reason. They'll be like, everyone out
10:49
of the pool. Yeah, for no reason. When everyone gets
10:51
back in, so you can start letting a couple ladies,
10:53
like you guys stay, you guys out. Yeah, like a
10:55
water bouncer kinda. Yeah,
10:57
hot chicks in first, you know. And
11:00
at that age you were so primed, you could just
11:02
point at your dick and it would ejaculate, you know.
11:04
When you were like 15. Yeah,
11:06
you're doing like, they're like, at least the ones on the
11:09
beach, they do like insane conditioning too. So
11:11
yeah man, you could be, you're jacked, you're
11:13
ripped. I think kids just aren't jacked,
11:15
they're not as jacked anymore, so they're probably ashamed of their
11:17
bodies. They're pale and kind
11:19
of like, not as ripped as they
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were before. You think so? Yeah, kids are not ripped
11:24
like they were. They all
11:26
wear fucking shirts now. Every little kid at the beach wears
11:28
a fucking sun protective shirt. It's like, let me see
11:30
your pecs. What?
11:33
What? What? What?
11:35
Try to see how they're built. I wanna make sure we're not too married. Yeah, I
11:37
mean, I think at the beach, there's
11:39
a picture of a kid I met years ago
11:41
and we kept in touch over a letter.
11:44
We've been pen-pounding a few years, yeah. What
11:46
was he wearing? Oh, he wasn't
11:48
wearing much. He was kind of a thicker kid, I
11:50
think is one of his parents
11:52
had passed away. Oh man. Find it,
11:54
bring it up. There we go. kid
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was like nine one of those big
12:02
kids big nine here that's good though
12:04
that's that's just cocoon he's about to
12:06
totally morph who's the dude that's me buddy
12:09
what yeah bro when was this that's back
12:11
when you could wear
12:13
what you wanted before the government said everything
12:15
what do you look great man thanks dude
12:17
yes I'm saying like that kid should be
12:20
more ripped than you just by laws of
12:22
nature I mean again I'm not shaming him
12:24
obviously I was a fat young
12:26
kid too so oh that kid ripped
12:28
into some cookies dude that dude was
12:30
a fucking snack daddy he was
12:33
a little fucking snack serpent were you fat
12:35
when you were younger no I was fat
12:37
I remember there was like one fall or
12:39
something everybody in our town got fat or
12:41
something I think something bad happened and
12:44
then everybody got fat and then like in
12:46
the spring everybody like kind of thinned out
12:48
yeah seventh grade like peak fat seventh grade
12:50
for kids you get it like really fat
12:53
and puberty kind of like shoot you up
12:55
yeah did you did you go through a thicker time in
12:58
your life yeah I was pretty chubby I wanted to play
13:00
football and I stopped growing so I was like I'm just
13:02
gonna get huge so I did like the gallon of milk
13:04
a day thing and like eighth grade going into ninth I
13:06
just got fat as hell I was like
13:08
super fat I just got fat and I got caught from
13:10
the football you're a newborn
13:17
that's they used to say that you drink a gallon of
13:19
milk a day you just put on tons of mass now
13:22
you know the cozy shack rice puddings there are these
13:24
big tubs of rice pudding I would crush one of
13:26
those every day bring up a couple rice pudding dude
13:28
cozy shack that was my shit I used to crush
13:30
them in class mmm I got really big I just
13:32
wasn't tall enough I played the end and then I
13:35
stopped growing I'm 5 10 yeah
13:37
those things man god damn it man were they
13:39
good yeah they're so good you guys ever eat
13:41
cozy shake it's good man I had to crush
13:43
a tub it was
13:45
like nine servings and I would sit there in class and
13:47
put it down they called me fat Matt I had a
13:50
serious fat period really but I did own it I really
13:52
owned it my screen name my AOL screen name was fat
13:54
Matt oh and I got kicked off of
13:56
AOL because I had written something it was
13:59
like a rap about gun violence in a
14:01
chat room. I was just like
14:03
a Beastie Boy song, and then Columbine happened the next
14:05
day. So someone reported my day before
14:07
post as Godin Columbine. I didn't do that. So I
14:09
got kicked off AOL. I got reported.
14:12
My parents kicked me off AOL. And then I
14:14
came back a year. I got kicked off like a year. At least I
14:16
think my parents restricted me for that long. My new screen name,
14:19
Fat Matt Strikes Back. I came
14:21
back, yeah. Oh yeah,
14:23
like the Jedi or whatever. Return of the
14:25
Fat-Eye. Yeah. See,
14:28
I got kicked off of AOL, man. Sucked. That
14:30
was the shit. After school, just putting up your chats, and there's
14:32
the girls in your class, you'd be like, yo, what's up? Yeah.
14:36
Did you do that? Did you do the AOL chat? The instant
14:38
messenger? No, I don't know what I did. I used to just
14:40
went home and felt bad about myself for a couple of hours.
14:45
But yeah, I would have probably rather do it online
14:47
to other people, but then we started this podcast. I
14:49
don't know how we do it now. Well,
14:52
you could go back then, you would do an instant messenger.
14:54
When it was time for dinner, you'd put like an away
14:56
message. You'd be like, you'd come up with something cool, like,
14:58
yo, I'm not here right now. I'll be back. Yeah, at
15:00
the mall. Yeah, at the mall. Did you crush the mall too
15:02
when you were younger? I have to go to work. Dude, we
15:04
used to go camp outside of the mall because it was about
15:06
maybe, the mall was probably 17 miles away. It
15:09
was kind of near this Pizza Hut. Damn. We
15:12
would go camp out there. So we'd go
15:15
on Saturday, bring a tent, camp out, and
15:17
go back in Sunday morning and just do
15:20
everything that they had
15:22
in there. They had
15:24
all types of shops for a while. They had
15:28
a, what was that one
15:30
that had all the stuff for kids kind of like, or
15:33
weird shit? It would have
15:35
a lava lamp and then like a pride flag. Oh,
15:38
Spencer's. Yeah, Spencer's, yeah. Yeah. You
15:41
can get like a dildo. They just sold dildos and
15:43
lava lamps and attitude posters and shit, yeah. Yeah, yeah.
15:45
It was like, you can do it, you know, and
15:47
then it'd be a dildo. And you're like, that didn't
15:49
even... What was this about? They had like gag gifts.
15:52
You can get like the small pecker condom, which is
15:54
like a teeny tiny condom, and like handed to someone.
15:56
They'd be like, oh dude, what the fuck? Yeah. Why'd
15:59
you do this to me? It was a word.
16:01
Yeah, or you could get like a condom that had
16:03
like pepper on it And
16:09
you'd see somebody cutting one up into like a bowl of
16:11
chili or like nobody knew how
16:13
you use some Yes,
16:17
Benzers was like blacklight alien
16:19
posters like wildly sexual gifts
16:22
Yeah, and yeah, it was the it
16:24
did well man at that place that
16:26
store was around forever They had I
16:28
believe they had some racial gifts to
16:30
um, I would have one time I
16:33
saw a hat there I remember this
16:35
anyway. I saw I had it
16:37
said the n-word on the front right on
16:39
the back It said just joking on the
16:41
back And
16:45
I'm like First of all and
16:47
we're like trying them on or whatever and I'm like
16:49
the odds of first of all say if someone sees
16:51
the front They're gonna get pissed right? The
16:53
last thing you want to do to that person
16:56
is show them the back turn your back to
16:58
them dude They're gonna beat this mid punch like
17:00
oh shit. My bad. I know you're just fucking
17:02
around That's
17:06
crazy Yeah, they what happened
17:09
to Spencer's let's find that out because that is
17:11
I feel like they got bought by hot
17:13
topic Maybe I feel like
17:15
that also something just too gay dudes that fall
17:17
like hey Spencer and hot topic or fucking, you
17:19
know flailing it out over
17:21
there I used
17:23
to work in the mall. It's like a frill. It's like a It's
17:26
like a subculture if you're a mall employee You talked to
17:28
the other mall employees and you guys like trade discounts with
17:30
each other. Mm-hmm I worked at a candy stand in the
17:33
mall. No, like three months.
17:36
I did write a bad thing I want to know more
17:38
about it. Let's I don't know what happened to Spencer's real
17:40
quick Just so we can go ahead, please please please Spencer's
17:42
gifts was founded in 1947 in Easton, Pennsylvania By
17:45
Max Spencer as a mail order catalog
17:48
which sold in a sort of novelty
17:50
merchandise Wow, the company moved
17:52
all mail order and fulfillment operations to Atlantic City, New
17:54
Jersey in 1960 Wow
18:00
Seagram bottom. Oh, they
18:02
acquired Halloween Halloween spirit
18:05
Halloween, which is a seasonal retailer. I don't
18:07
make sense Spirit of Halloween's
18:09
are a nice fossil you open up for like three
18:11
months make like probably 70,000 bucks and
18:13
just shut them down. Yeah. I like I've been peeping those
18:15
out for a while Yeah, we might
18:17
getting into something like that That'd be nice man. They're
18:19
cheap. They cause nothing you holes and you can use
18:21
them year after year after they don't spoil Yeah, but
18:23
then you have a garage full of Freddy masks all year
18:26
and you can't park in your You
18:29
needed big story space it is fucked up to have that
18:31
many friends that
18:33
many bloody plastic butcher knives Sure,
18:37
that would be kind of the worst part is you
18:39
imagine you come in and you're drunk a
18:41
little bit right or pilled up Or whatever
18:43
some earth people in your family are pilled
18:45
up or your pilled up son drives into
18:47
the driveway, right? He hits a couple of
18:49
boxes dude, and one of the boxes is
18:51
those ghosts. It's like Oh Fucking
18:56
box just starts making that oh my
18:58
god. That'd be the mass This
19:03
motion activated the course of your car hits
19:05
a box and it fucking just activated it
19:07
didn't like 40 of those
19:09
bats just singing Great
19:12
god smash Dude
19:14
if you can't especially like a lot of warehouses You know
19:16
that businesses go out of they go out of business and
19:18
then it's like if you're like renting warehouses
19:20
They're always full of like a shit of a failed business So
19:22
you could be like a dark warehouse by yourself and like what
19:24
is this stuff? Yeah, and you just get motion activated on like
19:26
25 green eyed cats
19:29
businesses are fucking gay, dude They
19:37
are yeah, I were I dude I was
19:39
totally when I was younger I was completely
19:42
anti-business I would work retail and
19:44
I would steal unfortunately I would never do that now
19:46
But I used to steal badly from if I liked
19:48
the person I wouldn't steal if they
19:50
were mean I'd be like alright Then we'll see about
19:52
this and I could figure every place has like a
19:54
giant loophole in the cash register like
19:56
if you there would be like a thing where it's like free
19:59
baby cone of Like a baby comes up, give them a
20:01
free cone, but if anything rang up to exactly like $20 or
20:03
25 where you didn't have
20:05
to make change, you can just hit free baby cone. And
20:08
then when you go to the register, it just crumpled all up and
20:10
like stuffed it in your shoe. It was
20:12
bad, it was, yeah, it was very bad. I feel bad about that. Have
20:15
you ever gone and made peace with those people or
20:17
seek them out? No, because they were my enemies. They
20:19
were, for real, were my enemies, so. Oh yeah, what
20:22
kind of place was it? One
20:24
ice cream shop, boosters. How about
20:26
you, there fucking good people. Well,
20:29
the manager, they were great, they were fine. At
20:32
the candy place, they were for real dickheads.
20:34
They only wanted high school girls working there.
20:36
And then there was a manager who did a bunch
20:38
of, the place was called Scoop Nuts, which is
20:40
kind of funny. But
20:44
this lady hired me, she had put
20:46
in sweat equity, all of this
20:48
stuff, and she was saying they were trying
20:50
to get rid of her. Again, it's all
20:52
allegedly, I don't want the Scoop Nuts franchise
20:54
to attack me, but. Finally.
20:57
It's all rumors, but finally the owners came in and
20:59
they were just being, who hired you? Why are you
21:01
here? I was like. You're like, I'm mad. Yeah, dude,
21:03
I'm trying to make money, I'm trying to make a
21:05
living like everybody else. I need gas money.
21:08
And then from then on, when I thought the lady owned it,
21:10
I was straight as an arrow. And those two dudes came, the
21:12
lady was like, they're fucking
21:14
me, this sucks, this is bullshit, I'm so sorry, I was
21:17
like, no problem. I knew my time was limited, so I
21:19
cashed up big time. Yeah,
21:21
how much did you take from him, you think? Or allegedly
21:23
take from him, if you even did it? I mean, it
21:25
would have been, at the time it seemed crazy because I
21:28
would leave with like 70 bucks a shift and be like,
21:30
holy fuck. That's a lot, dude. Yeah, I was crushing him.
21:33
I was getting after it. I was getting after it. Because in
21:35
that register, you just typed, you weighed it and typed the amount,
21:37
so I'd be like, it would weigh it a certain thing, I
21:39
was just taxing it. Who would order 70 bucks
21:41
for the nut- It wouldn't be sent. Yeah, it wouldn't be, it would be like,
21:44
everything was five to 10 bucks, but then I could just be like 250. I
21:47
could just type it in the register. Baby come, baby come,
21:49
baby come. Cut the fucking weight in half, too. I feel
21:51
bad, if they ever reached out, obviously. Just say it to
21:53
them now, you can talk right into the camera. I got
21:55
it, man. I probably owe them like 500 bucks. Which
21:58
in high schools a lot. You're rolling with like- I'm
22:00
like that's something thing back then now. That's like
22:02
almost twenty thirty thousand With
22:07
inflation I bought a how I bought my
22:09
first house off You
22:13
have a boat it's not On
22:15
the back of it. That's the name of it, but
22:17
there you know they're probably fine guys I was just
22:19
getting information you know and when you're 17. You don't
22:22
know what the fuck's going on. Yeah, so But yeah,
22:24
I know you should steal or not. Yeah, I was
22:26
bad on that was my fault That was real that
22:28
was a weakness of line theft was a weakness, dude.
22:31
I was I love to steal What
22:33
was it about stealing man? I would try to like
22:35
let me think of some things that I stole Did
22:39
I stole a buddy mind boxers or some yet
22:41
some nice ones right there were from like gap
22:43
or something Or
22:45
like I don't even know what they had I
22:47
think that Or
22:51
something I think there was some gap or
22:53
maybe they was made out of silk oh
22:56
oh god It was nice that fucking yeah, yeah,
22:58
there's I had a pair of them They're nice
23:00
in silk even and yeah, it must have probably
23:02
took 70,000 spiders to
23:04
make these fucking boxes right like it was stunning
23:07
And I stole them and then warm knew his
23:09
fucking house. He's like dude. Those are my You're
23:17
crazy, and then he was always like I don't know if he was
23:19
gay But he's always trying to take him off of my body
23:21
true that is fucked up. He was trying to do that Yeah,
23:23
so that's how so you guys are just getting changed, and he
23:26
was like yo those are mine Yeah, yeah, I'm looking at my
23:28
dick, bro. This is crazy. Yeah, he was gonna take him off
23:30
me I'm like even if I'm a thief dude doesn't mean you
23:32
should be gay True two
23:34
wrongs. I'll make it right yeah, dude So it's just
23:36
that kind of activity in the community was kind of
23:39
changed in the scope in our area um
23:41
I had a dude who I know I knew of
23:43
a guy who His
23:45
friend had stolen something similar his friend has stolen
23:48
his favorite t-shirt or something He really liked
23:50
and he's stolen it and he was like
23:52
give it back to me his friend wouldn't give it back He's like fuck
23:54
you well like they're like messing around and this dude
23:56
went into his house And this the kid had a hot
23:58
sister, and he stole a pair of The sister's panties
24:00
hmm, and then went to the dude. It was like
24:02
yo I you know I fucked this chick check
24:05
it out and hit him hit the panties and he went Awesome,
24:08
and it was a I never told him yeah It's
24:12
so diabolical he told me I
24:14
was like I mean you definitely won that battle, but I was
24:16
like that's That's a heavy
24:18
cost And
24:22
that's the kind of shit that's happening in God I
24:26
Need to stop Yeah, we need
24:28
to send force right now. What the
24:30
crazy thing is over there. It's like I Don't
24:34
know I don't know enough about it. I need to
24:36
have people on that know about it Yeah,
24:38
but they're all the problem is usually they take one side, so
24:41
I'm right Maybe they have one of each then
24:43
they just fight dude this guy do you
24:45
know destiny he's on every podcast separate episodes
24:47
Yeah, it's it's him. Yeah, true Separate
24:49
episodes when you get like two really
24:52
fast-talking guys And they just like go
24:54
on these like you the Abraham Accords of 1974 little
24:56
little you're just kind of like I can't tell Who's
24:59
winning right now tough separate episodes? I think is what
25:01
I need because I wanted to know oh, yeah, I
25:03
make okay I thought he's on everyone yeah that uh
25:05
yeah, I want to have two set two two guys
25:07
separate episodes Yeah, that's because I want
25:09
to know more about it It just feels fucked up like
25:12
in my heart like if I asked my heart what's going
25:14
on here today Palace you got
25:16
a free Palestine. I don't know how though. It's like
25:18
yeah, I know that's just a term, but it's like
25:22
Yeah, I don't know cuz it doesn't seem like they're
25:24
bad guys No, but then
25:26
they but then there's the October 7th, and
25:28
that's horrible Well the problem is
25:30
the Hamas distinction stuff because then they
25:33
Hamas they say hides within the civilian
25:35
population But then the civilian population elected
25:37
Hamas, but then you feel like look into
25:39
why it's like they got like bombed terribly So they're
25:41
like alright. Well then fuck you right Yeah,
25:44
man, it's one of those things. It's like dude and
25:46
apparently there's like other genocides going on too That's not
25:48
the only one. Oh really yeah, I think so I
25:50
think there's some other terrible wars going I could be
25:52
wrong, but I think there's some other ones as well
25:54
Yeah, so there's a lot. There's a lot of them.
25:56
I think they're always going on too. Just terrible. I'm
25:59
gonna Wyoming I'm
26:01
gonna have a warning in Manupur India Okay,
26:05
the moss is up there Genocide
26:07
watch turkeys obstruction of a decirds Genocide
26:10
alerts is currently from genocide alerts
26:12
comm it's a website Who
26:15
bought that is fucking? If
26:18
you bought that what do we live in this
26:20
show up on your woop brace? This
26:24
is unbelievable that we have a
26:26
website called genocide alerts now That's
26:28
a wake up in the morning and you check genocide
26:32
of work emergencies and warnings 2024 current
26:35
alerts Israel Hamas in Gaza Manupur
26:39
India I'm
26:42
looking for the PayPal link at the bottom. Yeah,
26:44
that would be be like 75 bucks. We'll
26:46
keep fighting these Yeah,
26:51
dude, there's more oh that's 2022 okay, so there's not
26:53
too too many Just
26:57
I wonder if we get accurate news about it
26:59
too though. That's the thing. I mean yeah, it's
27:01
pretty tough man It's like coming out of a
27:03
usually some sort of dictatorship on one side of
27:05
the other Yeah, dude. I don't know
27:07
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27:10
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you started out obviously working in ice cream. You
29:44
started out working in theft. Theft, yeah.
29:47
Yeah, there was theft, ice cream, retail.
29:49
No, I actually- What retail do
29:51
you work at? It was really just Brewsters and
29:53
the Candy Place. I did, my family did construction,
29:56
so I did more construction growing up, but it
29:58
was like, I got a couple retail guys. I
30:00
kind of did almost every I worked in an office
30:02
for a couple months did retail
30:04
deconstruction Pizza
30:07
delivery the pizza delivery. Oh, yeah. Yeah, I
30:09
was pretty chill. He delivers pretty crazy, dude
30:11
Yeah, I was delivering pizza in a bad
30:13
neighborhood, too And that's like scary as fuck
30:16
I had multiple not I had multiple instances
30:18
right at like same time a pie with
30:21
the cash It was crazy It
30:23
was yeah, it was not good. I should
30:26
cook I was the cook too. So I would cook
30:28
I was there by myself I would cook and then
30:30
I would block the store and then go deliver a
30:32
pizza and have to like think all right Yeah, well,
30:34
let me see that and it was crazy. It
30:36
was unbelievable You basically a one
30:39
man business. Why are you working for somebody else? You
30:44
started some pizza shop, dude, I was like, yeah, I'll do
30:46
it and I quit the office job I was at a
30:48
sales job and I quit that I was like dude I
30:50
can't do this anymore Did you ever
30:52
sell telemarketing to give her so like Tony
30:54
little gazelle freestylers to people on like? My
30:57
buddy used to do that my buddy had to work for his
31:00
dad one summer and his dad Like a
31:02
call center and he had his call and sell
31:04
with his Tony. Oh, he was doing those dude He
31:06
had a cell Tony little Tyler's
31:10
and it's basically just like it's almost like
31:12
a it's like a swing set for people
31:14
who could be And I don't
31:17
like to say this word out loud but retarded.
31:19
Yeah, yeah, it's a swing set It's like a
31:21
by leg by pedal swing set for people that
31:23
could be retarded It's like people
31:25
that are afraid to ski right? It's
31:30
like you can practice as a wife leaving your
31:32
husband's right It's like that's how you
31:35
would go right? It's like every wife that wanted to leave
31:37
their husband But they were afraid they would just get on
31:39
this for an hour. Yeah, you would just pied piper them
31:41
away Yeah, that thing's crazy.
31:43
My buddy had to cold call people and try to
31:45
sell it to him. So dude but
31:48
also they had numbers that would go in that people would call
31:50
in and We
31:52
would call in all the time and he had to
31:54
do like a like a 30-second pream world He
31:59
would do it and be like QUICK! Did
32:01
you ever do a call center? No
32:05
man, I worked at umm...we had
32:07
a pizza place too. I worked
32:10
at one called BJ's and
32:12
then there was another one, Born Again Crustions.
32:15
It was a pizza. Dude, that's nice. It
32:17
was pretty cool. It was like this
32:19
church that started a little Italian pie area.
32:21
Dude, I sold Italian food door to
32:23
door with a dude, right? There was this
32:26
guy my mommy went on a date with.
32:30
And he was like, he wasn't even Italian,
32:32
he just had a mustache. Like that's kind
32:34
of the part of the south we were
32:36
in. Like if somebody had a mustache they
32:38
wouldn't have it. We're like,
32:40
what do you mean he's like as a quest? Yeah.
32:44
So anyway, but I had to go door to
32:46
door with him and I was just like his
32:48
assistant or something. I would get like two bucks
32:50
but he would just sell like
32:53
Italian like frozen stuff to wives or whatever.
32:55
And dude, I swear sometimes I kind of
32:58
remember he would just leave me alone. I
33:00
know he was like talking to these wives,
33:02
like just like dirty business.
33:06
But let's get into it. I sidetracked it so mad. So
33:09
that's what you were working in. Yeah, I
33:12
was doing, you know, I grew up mainly
33:14
doing construction with odd jobs and then I
33:16
went to school for
33:18
psychology and then I tried to, well
33:20
I did, I dropped my psychology major
33:22
then switched to business just because
33:25
my friends were in business. So I was like, I'm gonna go chill
33:27
with my friends. So I switched my whole major to
33:29
be in class with my friends. Really?
33:32
Yeah. It wasn't good. It
33:34
wasn't a good idea. Looking back on it, I'm like, damn, I fucked up.
33:36
Because psychology is like you got to go to school for like seven
33:38
more years and I was like, yeah, fuck that. Like
33:40
all my friends are in business. I'm like, I'm just gonna do that. So
33:43
I was like, I'm gonna go to school for business and I assumed
33:45
if I went to school for business, I'd automatically make $100,000 a year.
33:49
This is what I told myself. I'm like, yeah, I'll make 100 G's for
33:51
sure. And like 2008 came,
33:53
the real estate market collapsed. But
33:56
I know I started doing stand up when I was like 23 in
33:58
Philly. Okay, so I
34:00
would do it. I might what I would do is I
34:02
do stand up for like six months And I'm like fuck
34:04
this and stuff do it for like nine months fuck this
34:07
and stop I just did that forever and ever and ever
34:10
So and then me and Shane started the podcast and
34:12
I had still been doing stand-up back then I was
34:14
doing stand-up a lot so I just got divorced. Oh,
34:17
yeah. Yeah, I made a really when I was
34:19
when I was younger I was
34:21
like 26 or 7 I like got
34:23
engaged when I was younger I was like no more of
34:25
this bullshit or funny business I'm gonna put my best foot
34:27
forward and be a husband and I
34:29
just fucking failed dude. Like I couldn't do it
34:33
I for real thought I just thought that's what you do.
34:35
I'm like, yeah, it's time to you know, quit fucking around
34:37
I like try to get I was like a personal trainer
34:39
at LA Fitness. I was like
34:41
selling weed like it was bad It
34:45
was bad Wow, well you're entrepreneurial it
34:47
sounds like true I yeah, my family
34:49
are all entrepreneurial my dad owned his own
34:51
business all like they all did their own thing So
34:53
I grew up with that was just kind of drilled
34:55
into me Like you have to work for yourself Wow.
34:57
Yeah, which is cool. That's kind of cool Yeah, but
34:59
they also everyone works like working 60 hours a week
35:02
was like the norm My dad was always like 40
35:04
hours is part-time. You do 40
35:06
hour weeks. You're a part-timer. Yeah, I was like, oh,
35:08
yeah Somebody said Jesus only worked like 30 hours a week
35:12
Who said that huh? You said that I but
35:14
it's like pretty Bring
35:16
it up. I know a lot
35:19
of people. How many hours a week did Jesus work? Look
35:21
at up 30
35:24
kind of is dude, dude, I could tell
35:26
you a lot of shit, dude I heard
35:28
honestly Frederick Douglass like dudes, bro. What? Yeah,
35:31
and nobody wants to say that shit
35:33
Frederick Douglass Damn, really? Yeah,
35:35
are you breaking it? I? Don't
35:38
want to out the dude Free
35:42
at last It
35:46
took me I had to go through like my database
35:48
of people I thought at first to come up Michael
35:51
Douglas And then I went oh,
35:53
yeah, yeah a different guy different guy damn. He
35:55
was looking really different guy possibly fucking way different
35:57
He was possibly fucking dudes. That's crazy
36:00
I mean I get that crazy though no
36:03
it's not cuz think about it you're like I'm gonna
36:05
do something different I don't want to have slavery right
36:07
I don't want it I'm gonna lead
36:09
my people to a different direction yeah and especially a
36:11
lot of more men I think what person just lays
36:13
were males that's a good point
36:15
never thought about that also
36:18
he was an outside the box thinker he was you know
36:20
right so he was like you know what else I might
36:22
literally okay whoa is 179 damn that's
36:25
like every 100 females it's like
36:27
China so that's definitely a good way
36:29
to meet dudes probably yeah sausage party
36:33
so yeah the Underground Railroad was a
36:35
sauce that's fucking bullshit oh that's
36:38
fucking bullshit yeah that is bullshit
36:44
dude because yeah that's crazy
36:46
the fucking Underground Railroad was a sausage
36:50
party oh I bet dudes were
36:52
hooking up bro probably yeah once
36:54
they got yeah especially going to like the East
36:56
Coast you get there it's probably like liberals L
36:58
back then it's like liberal it's right very
37:00
not at all but yeah that's
37:02
uh that's fucked up I didn't know
37:04
the ratio so off I assumed it was one-to-one me
37:07
too yeah you just kind of think that isn't that funny
37:09
your brain just kind of thinks that you know like why
37:12
if you really think about that for
37:14
like two more seconds you're like what
37:16
happened like there's a reason like China
37:18
has suppressed female births they're like
37:21
how did that work out you know
37:23
was there's no way they were being born at that rate
37:25
of male to female right they just
37:27
chose to suppress it yeah that's fucked
37:30
up apparently in Rome they used to just throw babies in
37:32
the trash like nothing huh Sparta there was
37:34
like a badge of honor feel like if your kid
37:36
came out like a little bit defective you're supposed to
37:38
just like toss them in the trash and everything like
37:40
nice no way they're like that's how we'll keep it
37:42
strong yeah well
37:44
shout out to the Jews the Jews were people back
37:46
then who were like that's wrong and they didn't do
37:48
it they would tell me not to do
37:51
it yeah they're like you don't throw kids out like
37:53
that dude this Jewish lady should drop her kids off
37:55
at the McDonald's in our town and fucking they would
37:57
stay there all day long really yeah those kids were
37:59
there ever And I think one of them
38:01
was mentally disabled or something. Some
38:04
people were always saying that he dropped them
38:06
off there and it wasn't cool. Yeah, that's
38:08
not nice at all. But I think even
38:10
a couple of someone, I think more than
38:12
one of them might have been mentally disabled.
38:14
But also most of our town was mentally
38:16
disabled, dude. You don't
38:18
realize when other people, like mentally
38:20
disabled people stay in one area
38:22
and fuck. So
38:24
all that's going to happen over time
38:27
of that area is just like a
38:31
quagmire of
38:35
intellectual cul-de-sacking. Yeah, dude. Especially when you
38:37
find out about Asbergers, I've come to
38:39
the – well, actually it was brought
38:41
to my attention. I kind
38:43
of believe my one cousin. I think my entire
38:46
family has Asbergers, like my entire
38:48
– like a touch of it. And
38:51
she explained this and I was like, damn,
38:53
dude, you're right. We all have Asbergers. And
38:56
I was like, you know, it's good to know.
38:58
I'm not trying to jump on the bandwagon. But
39:00
it's like I'm talking about just a tiny spider
39:02
bite. Like a little – we
39:04
definitely – Just enough. Just enough, dude. Just
39:06
some fucking freckles on the cerebellum. Yeah. Because
39:09
we go to family parties. It's just data
39:11
dumps. It's just like you're sitting there waiting
39:13
to tell someone what you're into and they're
39:15
like, this week I actually did –
39:17
I paved a patio and they're like, oh cool, actually
39:19
my podcast. And everyone just data dumps on each other.
39:21
Everyone's like, all right, later. It goes home. Yeah,
39:24
I feel that, dude. It's kind of nice. Yeah,
39:27
it's definitely – times are changing. Things
39:29
are blurring. I mean, we have illegal
39:32
aliens that are going to be the
39:34
lifeguards at the swimming pool. That
39:37
guy's crazy, dude. I almost fucking love
39:39
the dude now, though. We
39:42
have so many open lifeguard positions and
39:45
so many good swimmers that are illegal.
39:47
Dude, it's such a funny – yeah,
39:50
he didn't even have to go into that detail. He could have
39:52
been like, yeah, we're going to open it up. Apparently – I
39:54
read a book and they said we were going to have to
39:56
start actually enticing immigrants once we –
39:58
once the baby boomers die. I RFP hmm.
40:01
We're gonna have a huge population dip
40:03
so our immigration policy in like 2040
40:05
will most likely be us Begging
40:07
immigrants to come or competing with other
40:09
countries other countries have severe population dips
40:12
like Europe, Canada China is
40:14
gonna get crushed. We're gonna be courting immigrants from
40:16
like Africa and Latin America really that please come
40:18
here Yeah, that's what the guy said The
40:21
population dips gonna be crazy in like 40 years They
40:23
said there's gonna be houses are just gonna drop because
40:26
we have so many houses once baby
40:29
boomers There's so many more baby boomers than
40:31
the like the other generation So well, what are you
40:33
talking about because people have been saying that overpopulation is
40:36
gonna be an issue. That's the thing It's not at
40:38
all. It's not going to be whatsoever.
40:40
It's the first time I'm hearing of that. Yeah, it's kind
40:42
of good news I mean, it's kind of cool. Yeah, but
40:44
it's also I'm just realizing that the last time I heard
40:46
it was somebody just told me it and Then
40:48
now you're just telling me this so it's like
40:50
I'm telling you overpopulation is a myth We're not
40:52
gonna get over is it over which what are
40:54
we doing right now overpopulation or underpopulation? According
40:57
to the US Census Bureau The
41:00
civilian honest use all the population has grown into
41:02
a 1.1 percent over the past 40 years. Yeah,
41:04
that's baby boomer Okay,
41:06
and then they once they die their
41:09
developing world is still having kids like that, but all
41:11
of like Canada Europe Asia
41:13
like no one any developed country has
41:15
maybe one to two kids per household
41:18
and the baby boomers are having like five So
41:20
you just do that math and it's just like
41:22
the population despite brothers are smashing I did a
41:24
lot of them are definitely having some fucking kids.
41:26
Yeah for sure. There's definitely there, you know, but
41:28
they're on average But yeah, they're definitely they're crushing
41:30
it and the maxis are smashing dude. Mash it
41:33
up. They should yeah, they should oh definitely dude
41:35
I don't know how they do it. Usually if
41:37
I come up from a hard days work the
41:39
last thing I want to do is fucking Yeah,
41:41
it's tough. I don't even want to jerk off
41:43
sometimes. That's how sad I am After
41:47
a hard day of work. Yeah, it's like I won't
41:49
even jerk myself off. It's like Yeah,
41:51
but I guess that's good. Probably there's nothing
41:54
sadder than somebody jerking off kind of yeah
41:56
It's really it's weird, especially before work jerking
41:58
off before work Like pretty
42:01
pretty well if you do that your your
42:04
whoop bracelet should let the cops know There's
42:09
no reason they track you
42:11
like the coven tracker everyone's phone
42:13
things like this guy just fab that
42:16
would be terrible There's
42:18
no way we're far from that though Dude
42:20
once they get something in our body that
42:22
can detect like because we don't do a
42:24
lot. We're hungry. We jerk off Yeah cancer
42:26
right like We're
42:28
not doing a lot of crazy shit, you know,
42:31
they could figure any of your phone data
42:33
They I'm paranoid still because they
42:35
say they're just looking they're like tracking your
42:37
facial expressions And what you're looking at at
42:39
all times Damn takes one rogue engineer to
42:41
be like bang got him and
42:43
you're just you're you on your camera like With
42:47
what you're looking at just print it out and they can
42:49
take bam. Oh that they watched you
42:51
watch porn You mean I mean they could apparently all
42:53
here all of our data is being watched today It's
42:55
being watched in mass, but you would think like if
42:57
I'm suck I could definitely be like, okay Where's he
43:00
at and get like your IP address and they
43:02
if you give them your IP address They can go on
43:04
your computer from their computer. I'm to change of mine then
43:07
Yeah Yeah, he's a
43:10
VPN I guess but yeah, but the VPNs a
43:12
lot of them are made by Facebook in those
43:14
companies Yeah, that makes sense. That was like horse.
43:16
They're gonna make a VPN Remember signal
43:18
and all those like you ever use those like burner
43:20
phone apps on your phone. Yeah, still use them so
43:22
those appear there was one in Europe
43:25
that was like a it was like the after use
43:27
if you're up to like no good and it was
43:29
just set up by the Government and they caught people
43:31
committing murders and ordering hit mention So
43:33
yeah, we got a safe line I need you to kill a guy
43:36
and the government has collected all of it and just busted everybody
43:39
It makes no sense. It's people who sell drugs like hit me up
43:41
on signal and you're like, yeah, dude They
43:43
can get this like no, it's crypt. It's encrypted. It's
43:45
like yeah, I guess the craziest thing that happened on
43:47
signal I got on a signal one time So is
43:49
it you gotta get on signal and I actually hit
43:51
the thing where it's like let all your contacts know
43:53
You're a pig or whatever People
44:00
were like, what are you up to? It
44:06
is funny to see whose turn when you open signaling see
44:08
who of your contacts are in signal you're like All right,
44:10
that's what's up. You just get to
44:12
find out who's living kind of a CD a
44:14
little doing something CD Yeah, who's willing to? Who
44:18
is willing to risk it all? Yeah
44:23
Yeah, there's like signal we chat but
44:25
yeah, that's that is a funny thing people just
44:28
have total faith and they'll hit me up on
44:30
Yeah, all right, man, but dude imagine you're screaming
44:32
for help in a pool and the guy Help
44:36
you doesn't even speak English dude. He thinks
44:38
you're just doing a fucking tick tock dance
44:40
or something. I Mean
44:42
they'd probably be on it though. They would probably jump
44:45
down Yeah, I mean
44:47
dude. I I'm all in favor of that because I've been
44:49
burnt too many times by lack of lifeguards But yeah, just
44:51
god damn it that it's such a Such
44:54
a strike politically. It's just such a strange cause
44:56
it's like alright, bro I feel you we
44:58
can get into lifeguarding. Yeah, but we
45:01
have him where I live. There's no lifeguards
45:03
We have like neighborhood pools. No, I really
45:05
know lifeguards. It's pretty tight Yeah,
45:08
go to a pool by yourself. I
45:11
do I remember yeah being at a
45:13
pool by myself once and I Think
45:16
I got nervous or whatever. So I went to masturbate that
45:18
like a little pool house in there, you know and
45:22
Some guy peaked in the bathroom when I
45:24
was in there What yeah,
45:27
and then I was like, oh my god,
45:29
dude made me so nervous and then I
45:32
had to go back out. It
45:34
was just me and him just swimming in the
45:36
pool together for a while Yeah, this dude would
45:39
just blatantly see me masturbating in all man in
45:41
Atlanta. I Will say
45:43
jerking off fresh out the pool kind of
45:45
hits different If you get out
45:47
of a pool and you jerk off It's slightly different
45:49
something that has to do with like getting a lot
45:51
of sunlight and then jerking off I swear like leaving
45:53
the beach at like lunchtime to jerk
45:56
off. That's insane Oh,
46:00
yeah, it's crazy dude skins all
46:02
warm. It's nice Yeah,
46:06
I guess there is different cool times to do it,
46:08
huh? Yeah, a full moon people
46:10
used to do it a lot when I was growing
46:12
up full moon would be nice That would be definitely
46:14
the day after that people would be this war like
46:18
gave it all around
46:22
You so so how do you meet Shane because you and
46:24
Shane started Matt and Shane secret podcast, which is Last
46:27
year was the highest grossing podcast on patreon. Yeah, it's
46:29
crazy. It's insane It's unbelievable when you start them. I
46:31
like you check the date in the oh my god
46:33
Oh my god, then at one point you stop checking
46:36
that you see your number one You're like fuck. It
46:38
just it's surreal, but we met so we're
46:40
both doing stand-up. It was 2014
46:43
I had won Philly's funniest he comes 2015
46:46
So I'm like thinking I'm a white guy
46:48
the Caitlin Clark of Philly. Yeah, well he
46:50
came in and I think he wanted 2015
46:53
So I we met in 2014. I just wanted
46:55
I'm like really feeling myself. So I'm at a
46:57
show It's funny cuz I'm like dude, this is
46:59
crazy. So when I go to a show is above an
47:01
ice cream parlor So I'm just no way. Yeah,
47:04
I'm a warden out above the ice cream parlors like
47:06
leveling up literally It
47:08
was funny too because I think the the
47:10
owner was crazy. It was a whole debacle
47:12
but so I've he had just moved from
47:14
a Harrisburg
47:17
and No one knew who he was so he came
47:19
from Harrisburg and I'm watching him and
47:21
he was headlining I'm gonna come on a horseback or
47:23
something. I mean the story of Shane Gillis. Yeah, well,
47:26
it was crazy Cuz again never seen him ever in
47:28
my life. Yeah watching him do stand-up in 2014 and
47:30
I'm going Holy
47:32
fuck this dude is so fun. He had back then.
47:34
I remember specifically he did a joke I
47:37
don't remember what it was exactly is a very sensitive topic
47:40
Lost a crowd and I was like,
47:42
oh, I guess he's done dude two minutes later crowds
47:44
cracking up You brought him back and I was like,
47:46
whoa, and then we started talking after that.
47:48
He's like a famous burr set in Philly It
47:51
was crazy and then he He
47:55
should we like started talking after the show. I was like
47:57
dude, that was awesome And then he showed me a video
47:59
of a guy getting eaten by a bear and then
48:01
I showed him a video of a guy jumping off a roof and
48:03
we just totally clicked up. So that was
48:05
real that's how we met and then we
48:07
started we got a house together with a
48:10
couple other comedians like pretty shortly afterwards. See
48:12
and girls say guys are hard to figure out I
48:15
feel like it's like meet me
48:17
above an ice cream parlor. That's what I'm saying. Show
48:19
me a video of something eating something else. I'll
48:21
show you a video of an animal attacking
48:24
something. Dude we're good. And let's start a
48:26
family. Yeah and I was like devour freshly
48:28
divorced air mattress. I think actually we met
48:30
before I'd gotten totally divorced. Did you lose
48:32
a lot of stuff in the divorce? I
48:34
had nothing. Yeah I always heard
48:36
people like oh she's so her. She took so much
48:38
from me and I'm like bro I had no it
48:40
was embarrassing. I wish I lost stuff in the divorce
48:42
dude. I had nothing. You're still sending her stuff every
48:44
now and then. I should
48:47
man. For real it's fucked up. I
48:49
just didn't I didn't have anything but I like. Do you
48:51
remember the day you left in the divorce? Dude it's the
48:53
saddest day. It's for real the saddest. She's a nice lady.
48:56
She sounds beautiful. She was a very nice lady.
48:58
I just couldn't do it. It was one of
49:01
those things where I was living a life that
49:04
it wasn't my life. That's the only way I can explain
49:06
it. I was meant to do other stuff. I
49:08
could feel it and it was just like I
49:10
tried my best to get jobs and I'm like dude
49:12
I can go straight and narrow. To get a regular
49:14
job. That's all I want to do. My dad was
49:16
like that. Like have work at a place. Come home.
49:19
Have kids. I was all for that. I
49:21
just couldn't. I was like warped. I couldn't do
49:23
it. I tried so. You really tried. You made
49:25
as much of an effort as you could. As
49:28
I could. But I learned I was severely handicapped
49:30
in terms of like relating. You don't realize how
49:33
bad it is until you live with a woman
49:35
for you know a couple years. Handicapped at what?
49:37
I'm sorry I stepped on you. Like emotional relation.
49:39
Trying to like like see things from other people's
49:42
perspectives. Like I was totally unequipped but
49:44
the day I left for real was one of the saddest. It
49:46
was like the saddest things ever. It was like I was crying.
49:48
Where were you? I was in Roxboro. So
49:50
in Philadelphia like just some area of Philly. It was cool.
49:52
I liked the house. We had a dog. Yeah we had
49:54
a dog together. And who did it all come in your
49:56
car or stayed? It stayed. It was her dog.
49:58
It was her dog first. To be
50:00
fair, but uh yeah, she was really nice man. It
50:02
was just I talk about taking the dog now, man
50:04
I wasn't gonna do that that would have been heartless
50:06
to be like when you said bye like was there
50:09
a hug What was that kind of like final kind
50:11
of moment like just sad it was just like goodbye
50:13
You know did she come out and walk you out or
50:15
you said bye inside? She was kicking around so it's kind
50:17
of like there's a last glance and it was there's frills
50:20
like this etched into my memory It's one of like the
50:22
saddest days of my life Cuz I
50:24
had never really felt anything about stuff like that
50:26
like my relationships before that were like I
50:28
would just develop a girlfriend Like we would just
50:31
be like hooking up, and then I'd be like oh fuck
50:33
I got a girlfriend, and you know it was like very
50:35
very disassociated. I just go through the motions This I was
50:37
like trying to put my best foot forward That was like
50:39
the first time I really like I was like oh I
50:41
get what people are talking about like with Experiencing
50:43
like serious heartbreak and all that stuff just
50:46
burnt you down Yeah, crush me if really if it fucking
50:48
crushed me I had you crying before you got in the
50:50
car or do you I was crying I was crying on
50:52
the way when I left I wasn't crying before I got
50:54
in the car Then I was crying on the way it's
50:56
hard to get the key in the things I was you're
50:58
really fucking crying yeah, dude I was crying at the first
51:00
getting reversed and all that shit it was brutal wait till
51:02
I'm in forward for yeah And then I had to walk
51:04
the dog every day because I was like look I'll come
51:06
up and walk the dog all year at work like don't
51:08
I don't want her to stress about anything So I came
51:10
back go back in the house during work No one would
51:12
be there and I'd walk the dog and it was just
51:14
just Consumed with guilt and just
51:16
horrible feelings wandering through your old life like a
51:18
fucking ghost yeah for real And I'd why I
51:21
love the dog to the dog look did you
51:23
did the dog know you think I? Don't
51:26
know it was definitely pumped to see me It was always kind
51:28
of pumped to see me, but I don't know I couldn't tell
51:30
I like it was maybe in an essay or something What's
51:32
that say sigma? If epsilon it just sounds like the
51:35
dogs in a frat or something it didn't have any
51:37
fucking It
51:40
was But
51:46
yeah, it was for real as a big eye-opener for me
51:48
though, man That's when I started being like okay like there's
51:50
because when you're younger You're just so in your own head
51:52
where you're like I'm the only person with feelings that matter
51:55
in this world Then you like really encounter like the depths
51:57
of somebody else's and you're like oh, this is like serious
51:59
to like Just fuck around with people's lives.
52:02
So it was a big eye opening for me. I did
52:04
the air mattress on my brother's house for
52:06
a while. That's heavy, dude. It reminds me,
52:08
I was in love with a girl in
52:10
high school, right, when I was a senior
52:12
and I was in there and
52:14
I remember I decided I was gonna go away to
52:16
school in University of Arizona. And some
52:18
people that I'm from had never even heard of Arizona,
52:21
right? They didn't believe in it. People
52:23
like I showed it on a map and they
52:25
just called me a map, and
52:27
I was like, fuck it. It was
52:29
crazy some of the stuff that was happening. And
52:32
I remember just like she and
52:34
I were crying in her living
52:36
room or whatever. Oh,
52:39
her mom let me, this is crazy, her mom
52:41
let me stay over the last night I was
52:43
there, right? But
52:45
her mom's like, no funny business. You guys
52:48
can sleep in the same room, like in
52:50
the family room, right? What's that about? I
52:53
don't know, dude, but here's the crazy part. So
52:55
anyway, somebody started some
52:57
funny business and
53:00
then I'm walking to go
53:02
get some water or something or get some piss out
53:04
of my wiener or something. And
53:06
her mom's sitting right there
53:08
in a chair. What? Yeah.
53:12
Fuck, man. Killed people horrible about that. And
53:15
you could see that my wiener was still
53:17
like wiener. Yeah, you were pumped up, yeah.
53:20
Oh, God. My wiener was like, it's a
53:22
party, it's a party, it's a party. And
53:24
I was young. Did she say anything? Did
53:26
she say anything? No, but I still feel
53:28
how she felt. Yeah. I can still
53:30
feel it, but she loved me. She loved, the mom
53:32
loved me, and so she had some respect for
53:34
me. She knew that I really loved her daughter. That's
53:36
more, though, that she knew what you guys were, she
53:39
has to have something to add. But at least she
53:41
was close enough there in the distance, almost like
53:43
a bird mom, you know? Like, hey,
53:45
I'm gonna hang, you can stay in the nest, but I'm
53:47
gonna be right here on your branch. Oh, God. Just
53:50
in case anybody falls out and breaks a wing or something.
53:52
True, yeah. Yeah,
53:54
just in case somebody's fucking, yeah. I
53:57
had to put a worm in the wrong place, you know? But
54:00
what happened was then I the next day I
54:02
told her buy it like this gas station was
54:04
this big sad thing And we're both like balling
54:06
crying dude Yeah, fuck and then I drove off
54:09
and my fucking car overheated like 600 feet
54:11
from the gas That
54:17
fucking sucks because when your car overheats you
54:19
think if I drive faster it starts to
54:21
cool down your engine Yeah, but yeah, I've
54:23
that shit so that's embarrassing. Oh, it was
54:25
horrible I'm pouring cold water. Yeah, the fucking
54:28
air vents trying to get it in there
54:30
Yeah, I've tried to do that a bunch
54:32
of times socks man. It's just drips out
54:34
just yeah, this that shit of just that
54:36
heartbreak Dude, yeah, I had a real low
54:38
point the one day when I was I've
54:41
Shane was laughing about this when I was telling him but I like
54:43
I had a real low point driving home
54:45
one day from walking The dog I'm crying. I would
54:47
cry every day. I'm crying the way home driving down
54:49
Kelly Drive That's like in Philly That's a big like
54:51
outdoor green area people jog up and down there and
54:53
some dude have really short shorts on And
54:55
I like pull I stopped at a light and he like looked in the car. I
54:57
looked at him was like We
55:08
was like looking in the car and I was like Try
55:13
to slam his shorts and I was just visibly bawling and
55:15
I know it's a little point I remember just being like
55:17
what the fuck was that all about dude? Great dude crying.
55:19
That's a hot dude to a gate He
55:22
was probably just a dude wearing regular athletic gear he might not
55:24
even gay yeah, that's true I like to think I didn't hate
55:26
grandma guy while I was crying But I think he was straight
55:28
as the guy was straight as hell like I was so straight
55:34
Yeah, oh obviously he's in the wrong yeah
55:39
Dude I remember one time I was driving and I'd
55:41
been drinking right because it was think it was daytime
55:43
or whatever and I'm cruising and
55:47
The cop had pulled somebody else over on the
55:49
side of the road and he sees me literally
55:51
just drinking out of a taco vodka bottle No
55:54
shirt, right just ripping it in
55:56
in 1984 for that sport The
56:00
passenger seat stolen out of it, right? So
56:03
anyway, I'm cruising duty points at
56:05
me like pull over He's
56:09
dealing with that ticket so I pull over You
56:17
got away yeah, he never called that's funny he was
56:19
like yes, come here I'm gonna give you a DUI
56:21
when I'm done with this dude a lot
56:23
of guys get away from cops I've heard of a couple people
56:25
by now. I just take off and it's like so I'm surprised
56:27
I thought everyone gets called who does that but yeah people get
56:30
away Yeah, a lot of cops want
56:32
you to just get home safely. I think in
56:34
the end Yeah, and sometimes they gauge
56:36
on how to do it That's
56:38
so funny. Just big fuck this I'm out of here
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So you
59:26
and Shane start the podcast you met in
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Philly and Shane you and Shane start the
59:30
podcast in Philly or in Philly. And
59:33
then he at one point he went to New York because
59:35
I had I like got to the space where I was like I
59:38
like podcasting better than stand up because I was just
59:40
frustrated we're the same city all the time in Philadelphia
59:42
doing the same shows all the time and I like
59:44
either host or feature I think I was back then
59:47
I might have been featured I forget but it was
59:49
like the same thing I'd meet a headliner they'd be
59:51
miserable and I'm like is this is this
59:53
my fate like it's just like you just because a lot
59:55
of the headliners I met hosting were for real miserable yeah
59:58
like very sad very disgruntled and I'd be like or
1:00:00
whatever. So I got disillusioned with stand
1:00:02
up and I was like I just wanna do podcasting. And
1:00:04
then at one point I was like I wanna pursue psychology.
1:00:06
So when he went to New York, I
1:00:09
went back and got my masters in social work. Because I
1:00:11
did again, I was like dude. I think you dropped back
1:00:13
in and Ray got it. Yeah. And
1:00:16
this is the way my mind works. I was like I
1:00:18
wanna get back into psychology, what's the easiest way to do
1:00:20
it? To do like talk therapy. And I looked it up
1:00:22
in social work. If you get your masters and then work
1:00:24
under somebody you can get licensed and open your own practice.
1:00:26
Wow. So I went to school for
1:00:28
social work while Shane was kinda blowing up in New York.
1:00:30
And we're still doing the podcast. We're still doing it by
1:00:32
train or something every now and then? He would come to
1:00:34
Philly back then. Yeah, it was crazy.
1:00:36
And hard. It's insane because then eventually I
1:00:38
started driving in New York. But for a while he
1:00:41
was coming to Philly every week. I was just kinda like
1:00:43
okay cool. I didn't make that drive like that. So when
1:00:45
I started driving in New York I was like dude you
1:00:47
were doing this for two years. It's insane. He did it
1:00:49
for a long time? Did it for like a year or
1:00:52
two. No way. Yeah man, he's the man. That is a
1:00:54
hard thing. People don't understand that type of a commute. That's
1:00:56
insane commute. How far is that commute? Two
1:01:00
hours on a good day. And if
1:01:02
it gets traffic you're kind of like two hours, 30,
1:01:05
three. Yeah it
1:01:07
sucks. It's a hellish, and it's through the
1:01:09
worst parts of New Jersey. Like
1:01:11
heavy industrial, it stinks. Oh yeah dude.
1:01:13
It's awful. It's for real
1:01:15
an awful awful drive. Fuck
1:01:19
yeah. Yeah it's two hours
1:01:21
and 12. That's like normal. That
1:01:23
traffic up there near like the bridges and shit. And
1:01:25
then in New York I'm sure you know you're just
1:01:27
sitting fucking traffic. Yeah you're just
1:01:30
sitting there fucking furious, looking at
1:01:32
somebody else. And that
1:01:34
guy's crying. And
1:01:36
he calls you a fuck. The audacity
1:01:38
dude. And he audacity. It's crazy. To
1:01:41
call you a fuck is unbelievable. He must have
1:01:43
just laughed like alright man, whatever that guy's got
1:01:45
going on. Everybody nowadays just calls everybody a fuck.
1:01:48
It's like I feel like if you try to
1:01:50
do CPR, somebody's dying right? And they're like. Get
1:01:54
off me. They'd rather
1:01:56
die. They'll use their
1:01:58
last breath these days. Especially. in New Jersey,
1:02:00
somebody will use their last breath to call somebody
1:02:02
a f***. Oh yeah, it was heavy
1:02:05
dude. F*** was polite back then. That was like the
1:02:07
handkerchief around your neck being like f***
1:02:10
me. That's like kind of... Look at this beautiful
1:02:12
f***. But
1:02:15
no man, I did. I was in school
1:02:17
for social work and then it was funny
1:02:19
because I'm doing it and I was again
1:02:21
confronting the fact that I can't really be
1:02:23
a normal polite society because you drop into
1:02:25
a regular job type place
1:02:27
and you feel like an alien, especially the longer you
1:02:30
do stand up and other things. You just
1:02:32
feel out of place. I did it and I liked it. It was
1:02:34
cool. It was a cool experience. But it
1:02:36
was very... You know
1:02:38
like Jordan Peterson came out and was like the schools are out
1:02:40
of control. They're losing their... Dude, I also would
1:02:42
watch a lot of Jordan Peterson at the time and I was like
1:02:44
I'm kind of curious to see if that's real. So
1:02:46
when I went back to school I was like dude he
1:02:48
was totally... It was insane. Just how woke
1:02:50
they got in? Oh dude it was crazy. You'd
1:02:52
be in class and a lady for no reason
1:02:55
would just be like, we'd be talking about social
1:02:57
issues and she'd be like I would never
1:02:59
call the cops on a black guy ever. And I'd be sitting
1:03:01
there and I'm like I couldn't help it. I'd
1:03:03
be like ever? What if he was beating up a woman?
1:03:05
Why ever? It's crazy. So I would get in a
1:03:07
lot of those kind of arguments in school and
1:03:09
then... And I'll even text the cops. I'm even
1:03:11
meeting a black guy sometimes. What? I'll
1:03:13
text the cops. Cheers. But you know just so you
1:03:15
know. Yeah. FYI, meeting
1:03:18
a couple brothers, he'd chill, we'll update. I'll
1:03:20
keep you updated. Dude
1:03:24
it was crazy. I went there and they were just... You know it
1:03:26
was that kind of stuff. And I'm like alright keep your head down and
1:03:28
chill. But I couldn't help it. I kept like arguing with people in class.
1:03:30
It was kind of fun honestly. And then... Dude
1:03:32
they were like 24 year olds being like... Oh
1:03:34
this is what I think. And you'd be like
1:03:36
that's what you fucking... You could just smash them.
1:03:38
Yeah that's what you fucking think. I fucking love
1:03:41
that ice cream parlor. Yeah dude you don't know
1:03:43
shit about the world. You remember fucking
1:03:45
breaking your heart in somebody else's? But
1:03:49
no then I did that and Shane got the
1:03:51
SNL thing right at the tail end of my
1:03:53
schooling. And were you bummed about that or excited?
1:03:55
I was pumped. I've always been stoked like that.
1:03:57
But when he got the SNL... I
1:04:00
was like hell yeah, and he goes buckle up. They're going
1:04:02
through the podcast I was like I didn't
1:04:05
know what he was talking about. I'm like yeah, whatever it's not that bad
1:04:07
and then They that whole thing
1:04:09
blew up so I was like in school like
1:04:12
Because I would get mentioned in
1:04:14
bylines of like Podcasts with and nobody put it
1:04:16
together until very towards the very end a girl
1:04:18
my class Had read the article and was
1:04:20
like that's you and they try to kick
1:04:22
me out of school that guy hates Chinese people or
1:04:24
whatever Yeah, they're there and and all the proof is
1:04:27
you know I had been arguing against their you know
1:04:29
in my Idea you know it's kind of like a
1:04:31
little bit liberal value So I'd been like you guys
1:04:33
don't know shit about anything fuck that fuck that I'd
1:04:35
been arguing to flip side of their coin The entire
1:04:37
time so they saw that they're like bingo and
1:04:40
they try to kick me out, and we had a
1:04:42
smoking gun Yeah, they got me But it was like
1:04:44
and then I had a state it was honestly one
1:04:46
of my favorite experiences ever I had to go before
1:04:48
the board of the school and I got to do
1:04:50
one of those like trial by oh That's cool, man.
1:04:52
It's another adult suit. I've been looking forward to that.
1:04:54
It's like you're a suit No, I
1:04:56
just wore my regular clothes But it's like that court
1:04:58
fantasy where you get to like do your represent yourself
1:05:01
and close and your briefcase nothing in there So
1:05:04
I have to have that in waters in there to
1:05:07
Fiji's so I got to do that and
1:05:09
then uh No, and then it was just like I finished.
1:05:12
I you know cove it happened So like everything kind
1:05:14
of just chilled we finished the last month or so
1:05:16
online anyway, so it was like yeah That
1:05:18
was cool. Did you believe in cove it or not at the time no? I
1:05:21
didn't do I didn't my whole family didn't either like
1:05:23
my mom was like Let's
1:05:26
hang outside that one time and then after that she's
1:05:28
like come inside this is a bolt none of my
1:05:30
family got vaccinated Like none of my mom my uncles
1:05:32
nobody got it except for like anyone
1:05:35
who worked in the medical field I had
1:05:37
a buddy broken with CBS and got like
1:05:39
30 inoculations that he was addicted to Inoculations
1:05:43
or whatever did this motherfucker has
1:05:45
not He's
1:05:49
good he said oh, yeah, I was just sketched out
1:05:51
by the whole thing. I was like dude. It's new
1:05:53
I'm like I'm already I'm like a hydrate contract as
1:05:55
it is and I'm like I'm Way
1:05:57
less scared of viruses and like medical intervention I
1:05:59
Don't know. The only real that? yeah. But then
1:06:01
I'm like oh, people are really dying so
1:06:03
there must be something real. But then also
1:06:05
it's you Mike that they messed up and
1:06:07
killed a lot of people respirator that would
1:06:09
not die. Yeah, member hear about that. Yeah,
1:06:11
I got you. Get it. On. Oh
1:06:13
no. with by god or not I remember I
1:06:16
couldn't smell for about eleven months, but I really
1:06:18
know. But oh yeah, and I had antibodies when
1:06:20
I went to Rogan time we got tested a
1:06:22
had said animated almost had it. As
1:06:25
tight the A brother got at some point B I
1:06:27
got I got rocked but it was only for like.
1:06:30
Two. Days as a bad fever and I
1:06:32
coughed up like weird liquid, smooth like a
1:06:34
months and elsewhere. So. I
1:06:37
was pregnant at the time some like your wife is
1:06:39
pregnant pregnant so then there was kind of a medical
1:06:41
experiment. I say get it I I'm like oh no
1:06:43
the shit as we're all decide they want to see
1:06:46
I get to was get the fuck is antibodies and
1:06:48
is in new have I'm. Admit
1:06:50
you have a darker weiss yeah, pretty
1:06:52
much yeah to take delay that a
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specific set is assessed of. Yeah, Some
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beautiful lady, very charming. Bridget,
1:07:00
his attorney. British. Written.
1:07:03
Media. Britney is that are
1:07:05
name yet? Assisted. Ah,
1:07:09
year was that did that ended. the
1:07:11
i just grew up in Philly. leads
1:07:14
you to that you thanks dude. I'm
1:07:16
an asshole Equity broad time since I
1:07:18
was a little kid is almost. There's
1:07:20
my only theory. Is. Is
1:07:22
A in grade school. I like dated a Mexican
1:07:24
lady. I did it everybody did it. You know
1:07:26
why? Ladies area. But. There was
1:07:28
definitely be know. That. Was something
1:07:30
I was drawn to were black women remembered.
1:07:32
My only serious: my mom was sick. Super
1:07:34
Christian still is. Super. Catholic so she
1:07:37
blocked like Mtv V H one all the
1:07:39
music channels except for be to he didn't
1:07:41
know it existed. So. that
1:07:43
was the only music channel had grown
1:07:45
ups hasn't made my formative years i
1:07:47
just watched rap video as a rap
1:07:49
video on a i think it might
1:07:51
have had some sort exact yeah so
1:07:53
as well we had a have mom
1:07:55
money specific ah that's that yeah why
1:07:57
that's so interesting dude year do our
1:08:00
I made love to a woman who was
1:08:02
pretty much black right and Yeah,
1:08:06
it was definitely There
1:08:09
was like more in the um Muscle
1:08:12
or something. I don't know it's yeah, you felt you were
1:08:14
impressed by the experience. What do you say pretty much? She
1:08:16
was like what do you she said she was
1:08:18
black. I believed her You
1:08:22
know, I'm not Yeah,
1:08:27
no, I'm bracing was like blue, you
1:08:29
know Yeah,
1:08:31
I just you know it for me I they
1:08:33
definitely won out for me as well They won my heart collectively.
1:08:35
They won my heart. Yeah, I just I don't
1:08:38
know what it was man It was just like
1:08:40
yeah, you like what you like. Yeah. Oh, yeah
1:08:42
I think I was afraid probably a black girl
1:08:44
was growing up They had a lot of the
1:08:46
black girls in our town and stuff would get
1:08:48
knocked up by the black eyes at a young
1:08:50
age Yeah, so all of our black girls disappeared
1:08:52
at around 13 years old and got pregnant Yeah,
1:08:55
and they're back in their day and then they
1:08:57
come back and they're just different or they just
1:09:01
Yeah, they have a child now or they
1:09:03
have like baby milk on their shoulder or
1:09:05
whatever And
1:09:08
also I think they had to defend themselves against
1:09:10
like a like black like dudes in their town
1:09:12
or whatever that were like Trying to you know
1:09:14
get with them when they were young. Yeah, so
1:09:16
I think they were more into the whole like
1:09:19
Communicating with guys nature. So I think like a
1:09:21
lot of times they would Like
1:09:25
they were just more advanced like the black
1:09:27
kids in our school were more sexually advanced
1:09:29
They just had sex earlier and stuff. Yeah,
1:09:31
that was intimidating The black
1:09:33
girls were intimidating because they had more experience. Yeah,
1:09:35
it's funny So much as you talk to a
1:09:37
black guy's like I got head when I was
1:09:39
10 and you're like what? You
1:09:51
hear that a lot you're not wrong, sorry, yeah It
1:09:54
is crazy when you're bro if
1:09:56
somebody put my brain or okay that
1:09:59
God made for me that I kept in my
1:10:01
pants for him if somebody put
1:10:03
that in their mouth and I was 10 years
1:10:05
old dude oh my god
1:10:07
I would have over I would
1:10:09
have lit a fire in our yard and made smoke
1:10:12
signal it's over god it's over I would I don't
1:10:14
know how it's crazy
1:10:18
I would have hit him with a wrench or
1:10:21
something I just that would have scared me so
1:10:23
much so that's what so but yeah
1:10:25
so that was kind of crazy sorry at the end of us been
1:10:27
on you're not but I know you yeah that was good yeah that
1:10:31
yeah that that that kind of stuff's
1:10:33
pretty crazy and then I know I
1:10:36
get the intimidation factor I do get
1:10:38
but I always uh whenever
1:10:40
I like will see people and I always just assume I
1:10:42
always see like softer sides of it's something I've had my
1:10:44
whole life for all that I can see like kind of
1:10:46
like I don't know I always
1:10:48
can see people softer nature because people present one
1:10:50
way then you're like with them oh yeah like
1:10:52
it's totally different thing oh I would marry a
1:10:55
black lady I believe or semi black or whatever
1:10:57
for sure all black I mean there's so many
1:10:59
I mean I've long been of the belief that
1:11:02
we're gonna it's a
1:11:04
beige future right in four
1:11:06
generations everybody's gonna be beige yeah
1:11:09
everybody that's still alive whatever we're
1:11:11
all gonna be beige bitcoins yeah
1:11:15
that will have no sense of faith or
1:11:17
hope anymore but that's where we'll be true
1:11:19
at least we'll be able to context each
1:11:21
other online so I think
1:11:24
I think we might be in for like
1:11:26
a massive spiritual awakening though it's coming well
1:11:28
I'm there's a rumbling I can detect rumblings
1:11:30
I like that attitude man um there
1:11:32
was one thing I was gonna say uh what were
1:11:35
we just talking about being married
1:11:39
having a black
1:11:41
wife oh yeah I
1:11:45
would date a black woman I would marry a black woman
1:11:47
I would
1:11:49
date a black woman did I'll probably maybe marry a
1:11:51
black woman you know like I don't I think when
1:11:54
I was a kid I thought that that wasn't a
1:11:56
real possibility or anything makes sense but as an adult
1:11:58
I see that oh that's a possibility Like I
1:12:00
think also just from where I was from they didn't
1:12:02
have like a lot of interracial dating at the time
1:12:04
You know it was it was even like you know
1:12:06
I lived in like this I lived in the Philadelphia
1:12:08
suburb So it was like very very very white where
1:12:10
I was growing up, but like even
1:12:13
in college Some
1:12:15
of my friends will come up to me and be like that's crazy They
1:12:18
like couldn't wrap their head around it and it wasn't like
1:12:20
a hateful thing. They're just like it was a mind-blower They'd
1:12:22
be like Brooke. It's it's crazy the funny
1:12:24
thing to me though is like black dudes were always
1:12:26
like hey Man, you scared the data black chick, and
1:12:28
I'm like you're aren't dating a black But
1:12:35
the first thing they say though you scared of some
1:12:37
of that black chick they get hyped on you when
1:12:39
they see you with A black chick they'll get hyped
1:12:41
and then sometimes they'll be like you're an easy target
1:12:43
I can kind of like I'll fuck
1:12:45
with you or they'll do like a hard check
1:12:47
out on your baby You have to just go
1:12:49
nuts you got you got to get white boy
1:12:51
crazy Yeah So they do like a damn you
1:12:53
have to do what you're fucking pretty bad because
1:12:55
you can't you can't tolerate that So
1:12:58
yeah, I've gone white boy crazy a couple times. Yeah, you're like
1:13:00
I'm over here doing your job Well
1:13:03
dude apparently black women and Asian men are the Like
1:13:06
Asian women tend to date outside the race a
1:13:08
lot black men date outside the race a lot
1:13:10
But black women and Asian men tend to not
1:13:12
date outside the race a lot So like the
1:13:14
yin and yang twins or whatever what do you
1:13:16
say? No, they're just a black and
1:13:18
Asian do not date Well black men
1:13:20
will date outside the race where traditionally black women
1:13:22
tend to not date outside. Oh, wow So it's
1:13:24
just that's an Asian women date white guys a
1:13:26
lot a lot of Asian men don't date outside of
1:13:28
the race So it kind of like mucks you up in the
1:13:30
dating pool. Yeah, so but yeah, I think
1:13:33
black women are coming around though but yeah, they were they
1:13:35
were fiercely loyal it's
1:13:37
still you get a little people were You
1:13:39
know it does some people
1:13:41
don't like it Obviously, you know you get people are like
1:13:44
big into like black love or they're like it's not the
1:13:46
same and I'm like whatever man Yes,
1:13:48
yeah, but yeah, it's not your fault Exactly
1:13:50
it. I don't I don't feel any kind of way about
1:13:52
it, but it's just like you know celebrate that if you
1:13:54
want Yeah, you know, but it's like dude.
1:13:56
I remember the first time I like even like I was working
1:13:58
out with a buddy amount of and he like touched
1:14:01
my hand, he was helping me spot me or
1:14:03
something, and I was like, damn, I'd never even
1:14:05
touched a black dude's hand or nothing. They have
1:14:07
beautiful nails too. Dude, there's like
1:14:09
a level of like black coolness
1:14:11
where you grow one pinky nail long so you
1:14:13
can crack a blunt with your long pinky nail. It's
1:14:16
pretty simple. Wow. Yeah, it was like an evolution of
1:14:18
the Coke nail. But you can kinda
1:14:20
just. Oh, that's cool. Yeah, you can just crack a blunt
1:14:22
with a long pinky nail. Oh, being blunt definitely, there's a
1:14:24
lot of parts that seem super fun about it, and then
1:14:26
there's some parts and I'm kinda like, man, that part, that
1:14:28
is not for me. It's
1:14:30
definitely, I think it's easier than
1:14:33
a black dude dating a white chick. Cause
1:14:35
everyone's just kinda like, you know, people are just, people
1:14:38
just kinda like, like first when you first meet him, will
1:14:40
like kinda giggle and be like, oh, you like black girl,
1:14:42
you know, shit like that, and like kinda dab you up
1:14:44
and you're like, whereas like, I feel like the black, maybe
1:14:47
it's different now, but back in the day, like being a
1:14:49
black dude at like a white family party, there was definitely
1:14:51
some uncles hitting you with like icicles in
1:14:53
the eyes just glaring at you. What you doing over
1:14:56
there, right? My one friend was a black dude, he
1:14:58
was dating a white chick and he said like, her
1:15:00
brother would ask him like weird shit
1:15:02
being like, what do you think, you would get drunk and be like,
1:15:05
what are you, like we should, he was a wrestler,
1:15:07
and he'd be like, what's wrestling right now? He'd be
1:15:09
like, bro, chill, man, like we don't have to do
1:15:11
this. Yeah. Yeah, it was so. The
1:15:13
dudes are gay probably, but. I think black dudes aren't
1:15:15
threatened by white dudes as much as white dudes might
1:15:17
be threatened by black guys. Well yeah, because they don't
1:15:19
have to be, because they can always beat up white
1:15:22
dudes. Yeah, bigger dicks. Statistically, bigger dicks can beat you
1:15:24
up. Some of that's a rumor, first of all, I've
1:15:26
heard, but yeah, a lot of the ones on the
1:15:28
internet, yes. They've
1:15:31
done condom sizing studies, and like it's not
1:15:33
as much of a difference as you think,
1:15:35
but there's a difference. Dude, the last thing I
1:15:37
wanna have is some big old long dick bothering
1:15:39
me all day, dude. I hear you on that.
1:15:41
Yeah. I'm high and tight, I'm ready for action.
1:15:44
I'm ready for action at all times. Yeah. I'm
1:15:47
ready for action at all times. Oh, I'm like,
1:15:49
I got that John Stockton homie, dude. I
1:15:51
was like, I'll help you out,
1:15:53
bro. I'll try to assist you in whatever
1:15:55
your head is. I'm
1:15:58
here, dude. I'm ready to run. In
1:16:00
sport mode, we're just gonna ask about yeah,
1:16:02
there's a lot. There's definitely some white comics
1:16:04
married to black women I think TJ Miller
1:16:06
I believe Gary
1:16:09
Owens Gary Owens yeah Who
1:16:13
else is no Bill Burr bill yeah, Bill
1:16:16
Burr Bill Maher Bill Mars, they're very directly.
1:16:18
Oh, he loves It's
1:16:22
crazy he loves That
1:16:25
was a head-to-head those a black wife head-to-head Bill
1:16:27
Maher and Bill Burr They were both dressed pretty
1:16:29
good, too They both were black wife affected and
1:16:31
they got they argued over like it was Israel
1:16:33
and Palestine, but they did yeah Yeah, there's like
1:16:35
a fucking viral clip really yeah, they fear it.
1:16:37
They fucking thought it's kind of funny Let's hear
1:16:39
it no burn ruthless. What is black wife affected?
1:16:41
Let me get that and then let's watch Oh,
1:16:43
okay, Nick just when you start dressing better cuz
1:16:45
your wife's black And they really don't tolerate like
1:16:47
if you're not dressed well like though. I fought
1:16:49
along I'm I hold it down. You know I
1:16:52
still wear kind of like bummy stuff, but they'll they'll
1:16:54
wear on you Yeah, black people like
1:16:56
to look nice. Yeah, it's important It's very important and
1:16:58
like you in at weddings is the opposite like you
1:17:00
have to dance you don't dance it away People like
1:17:03
what the fuck's your problem really my wedding you sit
1:17:05
in a chair the whole time Oh, yeah a lot
1:17:07
of pressure to dance you can gamble on your phone
1:17:09
even you do whatever you want Yeah, you're like I
1:17:11
object you know But you're
1:17:13
just so gay sister. Whatever you can't help but
1:17:16
yell it Look at
1:17:18
these guys. Let's see what happens
1:17:20
here. I mean dude Demonstrating
1:17:22
for Hamas they are
1:17:25
in with the terrorists. They were for the
1:17:27
Palestinians Well, it's sort of
1:17:29
the same cause Why
1:17:33
are you I'm
1:17:35
on the side of the kids. Yeah, that's
1:17:37
easy to say you know no one wants to
1:17:40
see kids dead This
1:17:42
is a war very brave you to say this Is
1:17:44
a war no, I'm gonna be on this Hat
1:17:48
yourself on the back easy to say
1:17:50
I'm for the kids who's not to
1:17:52
the kids Well, I don't know down
1:17:55
to real hard-nosed decisions like I'm talking
1:17:57
like you're a general country got attacked
1:18:00
Israel got attacked. I'm not saying that they didn't have a
1:18:02
right to go back I'm just sitting there going like how
1:18:04
do I look at the way the only country in the
1:18:06
world that they get attacked and then as Soon as they
1:18:08
counter attack, it's like well, we got to stop this shit
1:18:10
now Don't attack them is a
1:18:12
very simple solution to all this problem in
1:18:14
the Middle East stop attacking Israel In
1:18:18
Israel, I actually know that's fantastic.
1:18:20
Anyway, all right You
1:18:24
crank how do you solve that one bill? Let
1:18:28
me hear your hard-nosed decision. Well, I think someone
1:18:30
has bullshit because I think some of the people
1:18:32
they are I Don't
1:18:34
know. It feels like they had to elect the
1:18:37
Hamas because they don't have any other choice Yeah,
1:18:40
true, but I guess you always have a choice in
1:18:42
who you elect I don't like
1:18:44
also, I don't think you can go against I
1:18:46
don't think you can you vocally oppose Hamas in
1:18:48
Palestine? That's a good question might
1:18:50
be kind of risky. I don't know That's the thing the worst
1:18:53
part is this will be on some Historical
1:18:55
record and we don't know how to play out we
1:18:57
could be like basically on either side
1:18:59
promoting the Nazis and you know I'm saying
1:19:01
right. Yeah, you don't know the long play of
1:19:04
it, you know, but to me It's like if
1:19:06
somebody says free a place that's the place that
1:19:08
needs to be freed usually. Yeah I'm saying you
1:19:10
don't hear free Israel. I've said this before you
1:19:13
don't hear free, Kentucky. You don't hear free America
1:19:16
you're starting you're kind of hearing a little but
1:19:19
you don't hear you know You're
1:19:21
your right Cuba your free Palestine if
1:19:23
that's the chance It's like that's usually
1:19:25
the place that needs to be free.
1:19:28
Yeah, that's a fair point That's a that's that's a
1:19:30
tough one to be like well, hold on a second. What
1:19:32
are they up to? Yeah, if he feels bad Right.
1:19:35
You like what do they do? I don't know.
1:19:37
My heart just tells me and I don't know my heart's
1:19:39
I'm reharted but
1:19:41
um My heart
1:19:43
just tells me that it's just
1:19:46
unfair That's what it feels like to
1:19:48
me But then I don't know a lot about I got
1:19:50
to get some people on that no more I mean, you
1:19:52
know, I think the war is totally unfair. They're getting they're
1:19:54
totally unmatched I mean they're dude imagine if you're fighting somebody
1:19:56
then someone gave you 90 billion dollars
1:19:59
You're hurt crush them so yeah
1:20:01
yeah I don't know why we're funding that I know that's
1:20:03
my one point of contention where it's like but then they'll
1:20:06
go well we need them there because they helped stabilize the
1:20:08
region blah blah blah blah but it's like dude 90
1:20:11
bill it's fucked up they're fine they're
1:20:13
good yeah they're they're set up but again
1:20:15
it's like yeah I don't fucking know but
1:20:17
they that's the one thing that disheartened me
1:20:19
because they passed a new bills like 90
1:20:21
billion dollars they keep getting well they're using
1:20:23
Biden as a fucking human merry-go-round or whatever
1:20:25
yeah that dude's over there like my son
1:20:27
my son was a four-star general
1:20:32
out of our bees
1:20:34
you know and yeah black guy at
1:20:37
the swimming pool my son
1:20:40
you know what the fuck is
1:20:42
even talking about dude he sounds
1:20:44
like outtakes from a fucking Larry David
1:20:46
we're talking about it yesterday on
1:20:48
our podcast
1:20:51
where he's a RFK junior
1:20:53
was like dude I don't I forget the time span
1:20:55
but if there's a nuclear threat in the middle of
1:20:57
the night they got to wake Joe Biden up and
1:21:00
he's got like maybe 30 seconds to make a call
1:21:03
how fucked up is that terrifying
1:21:05
is that he's gonna
1:21:07
walk down a hallway like what's going on
1:21:09
from sleep and be like this
1:21:12
is what we're doing oh my I
1:21:14
hope that's not the case there has to be people in the
1:21:16
White House being like bro chill will
1:21:18
do it relax there's no way
1:21:21
that guy's making a decision there's no way
1:21:23
that guy is doing anything imagine him trying
1:21:25
to eat this what I imagine a lot
1:21:27
of him trying to eat a piece of
1:21:30
craft singles cheese there should be
1:21:33
footage of that I did prove
1:21:35
it we'll open one of those
1:21:37
yeah that's the limit that if
1:21:39
you can't successfully open
1:21:41
and swallow a craft
1:21:44
single you can't you're
1:21:46
fucking out of here my guy yeah
1:21:48
no nuclear codes at all yeah you're out
1:21:50
of here and everybody's always like the nuclear
1:21:53
codes the nuclear codes are the algorithms of
1:21:55
the internet those are the fucking nuclear codes
1:21:57
that are killing our our
1:21:59
humane In our being it feels like
1:22:01
yeah, um, yeah, it's pretty bad.
1:22:03
Do you guys have children? Yeah,
1:22:06
we have kids. Okay little kids to your father is this uh,
1:22:08
I thought I was getting lumped in with Biden I was like,
1:22:10
yeah, we got I think we know sorry. Yeah. No, no. Yeah.
1:22:12
I'm a father have two daughters two little kids One
1:22:15
will be two in a couple weeks and a four-year-old Yeah,
1:22:19
that's it's the best it is Yeah,
1:22:21
it's very very taxing and it's uh, but it really
1:22:23
is the best It really you hear a lot of
1:22:25
guys when they have kids they get all like crazy
1:22:27
They're like dude if there was a button right now
1:22:29
that I had a hit to kill myself or her
1:22:31
I'd fucking hit it and kill myself. Yeah, you don't
1:22:34
have to go that hard. Yeah, dude, that's chill out,
1:22:36
dude You're a manager first of all at a Jimmy
1:22:38
John. Yeah Well, that's
1:22:40
your family right there. Yes. Oh dang
1:22:42
those girls are cute, huh? The cuties
1:22:44
man. That's so cool But yeah, so
1:22:47
when you're when you're a dad or
1:22:49
your parent, I guess in general It's like you live
1:22:51
your whole life for yourself before you have kids. You're
1:22:53
just you know, every single person is just narcissistically self-obsessed
1:22:55
It's just the way we are. Yeah, I am everybody
1:22:57
know every single person is and people like I'm not
1:22:59
it's like Yes, you are. Oh, so it's something you
1:23:02
don't even realize till you have a child. You mean
1:23:04
well It's it's like I
1:23:06
think so Hopefully you realize you don't realize it I can be
1:23:08
tough it can be tough But it's like and
1:23:10
it's not the like it's not a put down or
1:23:13
slam It's like as an organism we have to be
1:23:15
primarily obsessed with ourselves Oh, it'd be really weird if
1:23:17
I was taking care of some kids that weren't mine
1:23:19
That's what I'm saying Like it just just as a
1:23:21
person like if there's a dangerous situation our bodies are
1:23:23
designed to preserve ourselves and advance our own interests It's
1:23:25
just wow. It's a law of nature. So then when
1:23:27
you have a kid You
1:23:29
start that drive gets frustrated over and over and
1:23:31
over on a daily basis and you either like
1:23:33
come to grips with that and like Reorient
1:23:36
yourself around stuff outside of yourself or
1:23:39
I think it just explodes your brain.
1:23:41
You just completely fail. Hmm Yeah,
1:23:43
pretty tough. It's a pretty tough job, but
1:23:45
it's it's the best dude waking up every
1:23:48
morning become every morning Now is like it's the same thing over
1:23:50
and over like the kids wake up you get them breakfast and
1:23:52
it for me It put me on like a nice schedule because
1:23:54
I was just kind of floating around So
1:23:57
damn, it's cool. Did you plan on?
1:24:01
Having a baby or was it a surprise? Yeah, we
1:24:03
were like both like fuck it. Let's have a kid
1:24:05
It wasn't like super planned out, but we were like
1:24:08
We weren't trying not to and then she got pregnant.
1:24:10
I was like, oh shit. Fuck it. It's just like
1:24:13
and at the Do
1:24:16
you yeah, does it feel like you have mixed kids you
1:24:18
still give just have children? It's really have kids You don't
1:24:20
really we don't really like because then when you have kids
1:24:22
you get kids books So you get like different kids books
1:24:24
now. There's been a lot of like Political
1:24:27
and racial ideology that's been pumped into kids books. I'm not
1:24:29
all of us bad Some of it's like, you know, love
1:24:31
your hair shit like that, right? Then you get like some
1:24:33
political stuff So like I've
1:24:36
been kind of like I'll like screen out some of the
1:24:38
books if they're like too political I'll just like show them
1:24:40
pictures like I look at this lady. Yeah, like Horton. Here's
1:24:42
a Harriet Tubman or whatever Yeah,
1:24:44
this feels a little it's like yeah
1:24:46
anything that's like overtly Super
1:24:49
political. I'm just like, you know, I'm like, I'm not I'll
1:24:51
just like point to the pictures and make up a story
1:24:54
It's like say they're they're little kids. You don't have
1:24:56
to like yeah, you just saw I don't like I'm
1:24:58
not like against people knowing that Stuff it's just like
1:25:00
dude. This kid's trying to figure out like
1:25:03
squares and circles They don't need to
1:25:05
like comprehend like right systemic inequalities yet.
1:25:07
They can get that that'll be later
1:25:09
Right, it's just it's anti-racist baby. That
1:25:12
book is crazy feminist baby. Yeah, maybe
1:25:14
he's kind of crazy, too Baby
1:25:17
is a pretty crazy. Yeah. Oh, yeah, it's
1:25:19
feminist dude. It's a baby, dude. We
1:25:21
can't even make it Yeah, babies are
1:25:23
initially obsessed with the mother to they have
1:25:25
to be broke the survival It's a survival
1:25:27
some gay baby came over trying to slurp
1:25:29
on my chest it up fucking Put
1:25:32
him to bed early. I Would
1:25:35
put that fucking fat Mac nugget to bed
1:25:39
The crazy thing about being a baby you
1:25:41
can be as fat as you want and
1:25:44
people fucking love you, dude It's almost like
1:25:46
the Yokozuna in Japan. You know yeah true.
1:25:48
That's actually that's a fair point Actually
1:25:50
people love fat babies man, which is babies
1:25:53
women squeeze their cheeks and like Yeah,
1:25:56
they're crazy too because when you have a kid they like the
1:25:58
smell of their baby poop. I've heard this from Multiple women
1:26:01
like it smells like buttered popcorn dude.
1:26:03
It's so gross. Oh, it's disgusting But
1:26:06
no having kids is cool, man It's it's like it
1:26:08
definitely for me at least it kind of rocked me
1:26:10
to the foundation on one level But
1:26:12
then you're still your normal self But you're just hyper aware cuz
1:26:14
like I used to have an anger problem like I would fucking
1:26:16
break glass really Oh, I was so bad. What do you think
1:26:18
it was from I have an anger problem We have an anger
1:26:21
guy coming on in a couple weeks. Are you really? I don't
1:26:24
do that. I don't know I mean I can
1:26:26
go into depth. I think I
1:26:28
could venture a guess that was like sometimes
1:26:30
in households There's like certain emotions aren't
1:26:32
on display and anger can certainly become
1:26:34
a primary emotion if you're like in
1:26:37
a household where people aren't exactly Talking and
1:26:39
sharing feelings everything gets bottled up so then
1:26:41
every feeling it's channeled into anger eventually So
1:26:43
just becomes like you just becomes natural to
1:26:45
you just a fucking spaz So
1:26:47
I was just a spaz I don't know I come from a long line
1:26:49
of Irish spaz is so I would just like Especially
1:26:52
like you know in the early stages of
1:26:54
our relationship you get into those like those arguments where you're
1:26:56
just like I don't you get so disoriented because you're like,
1:26:58
I don't know if I'm right I don't know if I'm
1:27:00
wrong right you just start to spaz and I would be
1:27:02
doing the dishes and just be like Like
1:27:05
smash a glass But then like yeah
1:27:07
once you have to like that kind of shit has to
1:27:09
stop once you have kids or you can just keep Going
1:27:11
and terrify them. Mmm. So you got to like, you know,
1:27:13
I'd have to like really I had a rain that in
1:27:15
I Just
1:27:18
be so scary dude, it's so good as I can
1:27:20
remember as a kid like seeing your parents yell was
1:27:22
like fuck dude Just for shitty
1:27:24
my dad. Yeah was like he was so old. He's
1:27:26
probably when I finally could get a good look at
1:27:28
him It's probably about 76 damn and
1:27:30
he would He
1:27:34
would drink sometimes and he would like
1:27:36
put his park his car like
1:27:38
in the ditch outside of our house Yeah Not
1:27:41
a good look when you see that car in the ditch. You're
1:27:43
like we thought it was so funny, dude And
1:27:46
dude one time our aunt came to visit and she was like
1:27:48
91 years old, dude It
1:27:51
was my dad's history. It's never even seen Fucking
1:27:54
over you just rolled up. Yeah,
1:27:56
she came to visit. I think she was 90 or 91 And
1:28:00
we were just like, what is going
1:28:02
on? That's wild. She couldn't even talk
1:28:04
to us. Damn, so how old
1:28:06
was your dad when he had you? He was 70. He
1:28:09
was an older guy. But it was just so
1:28:11
bizarre. She couldn't even talk to us. But she
1:28:13
painted us some pictures, I remember. That's kind of
1:28:15
cool. It was really nice of her. She painted
1:28:17
like wildflowers from, I think, Mississippi or something. That's
1:28:19
pretty, that's nice. Yeah, it was very sweet of
1:28:22
her. Well yeah, to answer your question,
1:28:24
that was kind of it. You get kind of like,
1:28:26
if you see spazzing, you're like, yeah, this is just
1:28:28
how I handle stuff. And then you just start spazzing.
1:28:30
And then like, you know, if you don't learn how to logically
1:28:33
process whatever that surge of emotion is, it's just
1:28:35
like, I'm going to fucking spazz. I'm still guilty
1:28:37
of it. I'll kick,
1:28:39
if we have like an empty paper bag, I'll fucking,
1:28:41
everyone leaves. I'll just kick that bit. Kick it as
1:28:44
hard as I fucking can. I'll kick that motherfucker too.
1:28:47
I also stopped talking, I was talking to my dogs real mean
1:28:49
too. I walked my dogs and they
1:28:51
yanked my arm. I'd be like, you motherfucker, knock it off. And I
1:28:53
had to like, chill with that. I can't
1:28:55
do that. But yeah, I was just, you know. Hazing, huh?
1:28:58
Well, dude, your shoulder yanked. It's like, my dogs are like
1:29:00
60 pounds. Yeah, and that was good. One of them yanks
1:29:02
your shoulder and you're not expecting it. It
1:29:04
is the most infuriating thing. But then if someone sees you doing
1:29:07
that, they're like, this guy. Because in my house, it was like,
1:29:09
it was all, you could hit dogs in my house. It was
1:29:11
like, just, that's where we were at.
1:29:13
Oh yeah, Philly, Vic. Vic got beat. That's Michael
1:29:15
Vic country. Yeah, kids, you're bad, you got hit.
1:29:17
The dog was bad. Of course the dog got
1:29:19
hit too. So I like, thought it was normal to hit dogs. I
1:29:22
learned that it's not. Dude, dogs used
1:29:24
to patrol our neighborhood, attack kids, attack
1:29:26
people. Really? Male
1:29:28
people, G-A-Y's,
1:29:32
everybody, dude. They would bite everybody,
1:29:34
dude. Let's watch
1:29:36
the rest of that birthing. Do we watch that part? I
1:29:39
want to see what he said, or just see what he said.
1:29:41
I want to see what he said. A simple solution
1:29:43
to all this problem in the Middle East. Stop attacking
1:29:45
Israel. Hey, you just solved it. Stop
1:29:47
attacking Israel. You just solved it. I actually did. That's
1:29:50
fantastic. Anyway. All right.
1:29:52
Let's go to Russia and the Ukraine. How do
1:29:54
you solve that one, Bill? Let
1:29:57
me hear your hard-nosed decision about that. Well, let
1:29:59
me ask you a question. question how is war
1:30:01
still legal? All the shit that's been
1:30:04
canceled legal. Why is that still fucking legal? Would
1:30:06
you like a real answer to that? For something
1:30:08
to be illegal
1:30:10
you have to have the capacity to
1:30:12
enforce it and you
1:30:15
can't enforce against war or else
1:30:17
you have to go to war with the country that's
1:30:19
going to war and we don't want to go to
1:30:21
war with Russia over Ukraine. What would
1:30:23
be the sense of making it illegal?
1:30:25
That's really gonna stop Putin. No, to
1:30:27
stop people from going to war you
1:30:29
have to also put sit down and
1:30:31
talk it out. Why can't Putin
1:30:34
do a podcast with the head guy? Like
1:30:37
you just solved the Middle East on
1:30:39
a podcast. Why can't they solve what
1:30:41
they're doing on a podcast? This is
1:30:43
why this is not Europe. Make some
1:30:45
hard noise. That's what you mean. It
1:30:47
isn't your thing. You're like that guy
1:30:49
that has a fantasy football theme and
1:30:51
thinks he's a fucking GM. That's
1:30:55
exactly what it is. Like why am I fucking
1:30:57
listening to you like you like you've done something?
1:31:00
That's hilarious. Yeah, Bill Marzine done shit dude. He
1:31:03
was super woke and then he panned and when
1:31:05
he realized his audience was leaving he definitely got
1:31:07
more centered. Do you think that's what it was?
1:31:09
I certainly think that. It was a financial thing.
1:31:11
Yeah. That he got way more centered because I
1:31:13
started seeing like he was like every all these
1:31:15
idiots are wrong you're taking horse medicine or whatever.
1:31:17
Yeah. And then you've certainly seen him come back
1:31:19
over to the other side. He flipped big time.
1:31:21
I mean I was delighted to see him flip
1:31:23
like that but I get what you're saying. If
1:31:26
you start getting enough hate now you can just
1:31:28
like measure it in real time. You see it
1:31:30
and you're like oh fuck these guys. Dude if you go on
1:31:32
YouTube almost every
1:31:34
comment is like fuck this. Some
1:31:37
gradient of like you know whether Trump or
1:31:39
like almost 80% of comments like Trump rules
1:31:41
it's like mostly some reason like
1:31:43
conservative people commenting. I don't know if it's like bots
1:31:45
or what. Yeah. It's like if you were to watch
1:31:48
that clip actually I think I did read that a
1:31:50
lot of people were slamming Marr being like what a
1:31:52
smug fucking bloa. Yeah I guess my mom never liked
1:31:54
him and she never really said anything to me but
1:31:56
I remember saying that my mom doesn't like Bill Maher
1:31:59
at all. Yeah, he
1:32:01
doesn't seem respectful to women. That's what I remember she said
1:32:03
to me. That's fair I think that's fair for her
1:32:06
to say especially back in that you know. Yeah, I don't
1:32:08
know. I've never met him You know I just know I
1:32:10
haven't either. I'm just joking, but no I I just know
1:32:12
he did flip-flop hard I remember
1:32:14
just being I was delighted. I was like yes
1:32:17
Yeah, it was funny. Yeah, cuz you needed
1:32:19
somehow every host was all Like
1:32:22
really it seemed like not They
1:32:25
just all had the same exact plan It was
1:32:27
like remember when they played that video that was
1:32:29
crazy when it was talking at once Yeah, talking
1:32:31
about every channel talking about the same thing it
1:32:34
was like yeah at a certain point You can't
1:32:36
think we all think we just live in some
1:32:38
like people are gonna notice Yeah,
1:32:41
right, and it almost seems like we're so dumb. We
1:32:43
didn't know it's fucked up man that like for that
1:32:45
bugged me out And is this a real video? It's
1:32:47
a real thing. I think so. I mean that'd be crazy
1:32:49
to fake that Fox
1:32:52
and Antonio's Jessica Headley Treasure
1:32:57
Valley communities the El Paso Las
1:33:00
Cruces communities Eastern Iowa communities mid-Michigan
1:33:02
communities We are extremely proud of
1:33:05
the quality balanced journalism that CBS 4
1:33:07
news produces, but Pledging
1:33:15
our country the sharing of biased and
1:33:17
false news has become all too common
1:33:19
on social media More alarming
1:33:21
some media outlets publish the same fake
1:33:23
stories without checking facts first the sharing
1:33:26
of biased and false news has become all too common on social media I
1:33:31
mean They
1:33:34
definitely have a script people are writing scripts. Well.
1:33:36
It's just they're all owned by the same three
1:33:38
or four companies now it's like it's like It's
1:33:42
the same reason why it's everything's
1:33:44
just kind of the same. It's like It's
1:33:47
all Panera bread. It's just the same Seven
1:33:49
companies own everything of course So
1:33:52
when people are finally like you can't just expect
1:33:54
that people don't have some thing inside
1:33:56
of them that detects what?
1:34:00
When something is inauthentic I think and
1:34:02
that's the last piece you probably to
1:34:04
go is that part of you that
1:34:07
Yeah, well, I think the I think people underestimate the
1:34:09
vast majority of people and it's like a tough thing
1:34:11
to think about Just really don't think
1:34:13
for themselves that much. Yeah, it's I think it's
1:34:15
true And then it's like, you know, you can
1:34:18
really just kind of pump a message out It'll
1:34:20
I agree it'll land with a huge majority of
1:34:22
people. They may have figured this out I think
1:34:24
it was Bernays was it was like Freud's nephew
1:34:26
did that whole book propaganda? They like study this
1:34:28
like dude, you can convince people of anything Freud's
1:34:30
nephew must been balling too because yeah Yeah, he's
1:34:32
like my uncle's fucking Freud. He must have been
1:34:34
yeah smashing Apparently he convinced
1:34:37
women to smoke cigarettes women didn't smoke
1:34:39
cigarettes until There was a
1:34:41
company that was like we got to drive up our sales
1:34:43
and he like he's like I got it And he just
1:34:45
had like a famous actress smoke a cigarette at a parade
1:34:47
and cigarette sales women just fucking spiked Crazy,
1:34:51
that is crazy, dude. I wish I wouldn't smoke Yeah,
1:34:54
man Armageddon dude Good
1:34:58
for Bertha speaking up though at least Bertha
1:35:01
going after Bill Maher. Yeah,
1:35:03
it was funny. He's very he's very entertaining
1:35:06
with all that stuff. Like what are you
1:35:08
a fucking general? It's like fuck. That's funny.
1:35:10
Perfect line to a general. Yeah But
1:35:13
yeah, apparently he was like nasty though. He
1:35:16
did it the whole time burden. Yeah, apparently
1:35:18
Yeah, they had like a supercut of just
1:35:20
him just fucking leveling him the entire time
1:35:23
So that's tough. Hey, especially Bill Maher like you're saying
1:35:25
he's I don't think he's equipped for
1:35:27
that kind of cut fight Really because he's like going
1:35:29
into like the issues that you know from his perspective
1:35:32
Like let's talk about this from a macro perspective and
1:35:34
burrs like you're a fucking loser and you're like God
1:35:41
burrs fucking incredible. They he's funny
1:35:43
as fuck. He's one of none
1:35:46
dude. Yeah He's
1:35:48
nasty as fuck. But yeah, he crushed him man
1:35:51
He's uh, yeah, he's a big
1:35:53
covered guy too. I noticed that he became he
1:35:55
was like number one covered guy who be Mar
1:35:57
Bill Burr Bill Burr. He was pro-covid Yeah,
1:36:00
pro-covid, pro-mask, pro-vax, you know, which
1:36:02
is his prerogative, whatever. Yeah, but
1:36:05
he's his free thinker He's able to think for both
1:36:07
sides of things. It's not always just one side of
1:36:09
it. Oh, yeah He does he does a good job
1:36:11
of that him on his appearances on Conan really funny
1:36:14
And COVID like I didn't know if it was real
1:36:16
at first But then when people are dying was like
1:36:18
oh something's really going on here and then people I
1:36:20
started to know got sick Because first it just came
1:36:22
from the news. You're like people are getting this thing.
1:36:24
It's kind of invisible You couldn't
1:36:26
really see it. Yeah, you know
1:36:29
We had like a bola before that we don't we had a
1:36:31
couple of little things But they were like this is it but
1:36:33
I remember just looking at the stats and being like I don't
1:36:36
think I have to worry About this that was
1:36:38
my only gripe about it's like dude you could have like preserved
1:36:40
the elderly Let the obese chill
1:36:42
and anyone who was like younger and not like
1:36:45
had emphysema I should have been able to just
1:36:47
do their thing the entire time. Yeah, they were
1:36:49
like hide your fat friends and everything They were
1:36:51
like making all these crazy my
1:36:54
friend Would go
1:36:56
and get his get his groceries delivered in
1:36:58
his yard have the guy set him out
1:37:01
there He would go out there with a
1:37:03
fucking pressure washer. Oh pressure washes fucking groceries,
1:37:05
dude Yeah, like in a hazmat suit. I'm
1:37:08
like, dude, you are a pussy, dude
1:37:11
Yeah, I would rather die next to
1:37:13
a couple things of written crackers in
1:37:15
front of my son Then
1:37:18
ever see him. Let me hazmat
1:37:20
suit down dude. That was miracle
1:37:23
whip and some fucking um
1:37:27
Bananas oatmeal squares dude, and that was a crazy
1:37:29
thing because I had we had I had my
1:37:31
first daughter right at the beginning of COVID So
1:37:34
we were in school and like the parents were
1:37:36
made trying to make the kids like dude fucking two-year-olds
1:37:38
There's like a daycare like early childhood education trying to
1:37:41
make them wear masks all day and it was like
1:37:43
bro give it up They're not keeping these on all
1:37:45
day and also for a two-year-old
1:37:47
who's virtually zero risk You're gonna tell
1:37:49
them in their formative years like there's a giant virus
1:37:51
and we're all died like dude Let them chill therefore
1:37:54
you can tell them like people are getting sick But like dude they
1:37:56
were mask on all the times and who
1:37:58
is the virus now, dude. That's it thing
1:38:00
it's fucking gone bro exactly it's
1:38:02
you don't hear about it if
1:38:05
people get cards that shit didn't
1:38:07
say like what was that for for now and now
1:38:09
the people that have it they don't know if Mike
1:38:11
is sick and you know now the I believe you
1:38:13
can't trust I don't know I just think
1:38:15
people hear so much of it they're probably sick
1:38:18
yeah I mean also it's a throwback now but yeah
1:38:21
they were funny too because they were just a piece
1:38:23
of paper yeah so you just fake them like and
1:38:26
there was no penalty for favor faked one there's no
1:38:28
criminal penalty I don't know I think for fake
1:38:30
ones did yeah I got in a different
1:38:32
country so they would just look
1:38:35
at it I have a picture on my phone about
1:38:37
here it is and they'd be like cool man I'm
1:38:39
like this is a fucking ridiculous so
1:38:42
dumb man um what else
1:38:44
happened in the news guys let me see
1:38:47
Peru classified transgender non-binary
1:38:49
binary and intersex people
1:38:51
as mentally ill Peru
1:38:54
Wow what did they say
1:38:56
why that's a good question I mean
1:38:59
proves a Christian nation I do know that
1:39:01
but my thing that justifies I'm just laying
1:39:04
that groundwork the controversial decision was made
1:39:06
to ensure the country's public health services could guarantee
1:39:08
full coverage of medical attention for mental health for
1:39:10
the trans community Peruvian health ministry explained that makes
1:39:12
sense in order to bill insurance you have to
1:39:15
it has to be a mental like some sort
1:39:17
of mental disorder oh so it's a how to
1:39:19
know they did a kind of a nice thing
1:39:21
being gay was a straight-up mental disorder in the
1:39:23
70s it was listed in the book that was
1:39:25
like that there's a book it's called the DSM
1:39:27
that has every mental disorder and every year people
1:39:29
have to argue like what's still one what isn't
1:39:31
like how well you know blah blah blah but
1:39:34
yeah being gay in like the 70s was like a mental
1:39:36
it's like a clinical mental mental disorder well I mean it
1:39:38
had to seem like it if you think about it imagine
1:39:40
you're hanging out somewhere right yeah and
1:39:43
you're just sitting there with your buddy or something you're watching like
1:39:46
the Cubs or something watching Andre Dawson and
1:39:49
your buddy keeps fucking putting his leg
1:39:53
right and you tell him
1:39:55
like you know hey mark what's
1:39:57
up your hand keeps moving over here
1:39:59
Is something wrong with your elbow? Is something wrong with
1:40:01
your shoulder? You have to call 911 Is
1:40:04
something wrong with your bicep? And he's like, no, I'm fine And
1:40:07
it keeps happening and then it starts rubbing on your chest
1:40:09
or whatever you're like True Doesn't
1:40:12
understand that something's wrong with you, you're going to think then that
1:40:14
he's mentally disabled True It's
1:40:16
a fair point, it's actually a fair point Even he would
1:40:18
probably think it in the beginning, he'd be like, some guys
1:40:20
I'm sure were like The hell? What
1:40:23
is going on? Could
1:40:25
you imagine? Oh god 50s being like, I
1:40:27
just want to suck my boss's dick so
1:40:29
bad Yeah There was no
1:40:31
one in the world you could turn to And
1:40:33
be like, look man, I want to suck my boss's dick more than
1:40:35
anything Everybody get the fuck out of here right now People
1:40:38
would beat your ass Yeah,
1:40:41
or people would just be like, dude, you're crazy That's
1:40:43
not right You would have to think
1:40:45
you're crazy because if you didn't even know about being
1:40:47
gay Imagine you never even heard about being gay Yeah
1:40:50
You just seen your parents and suddenly
1:40:52
you're being gay, right? Yes
1:40:55
Or you look at like your brother, your
1:40:57
neighbor, your male neighbor Goddamn And
1:40:59
you just like, kind of start fucking
1:41:01
feeling some type of way about him
1:41:03
Yeah man Like a candle for no
1:41:06
reason It must have been crazy I've
1:41:10
never envied that man They used to
1:41:13
do lobotomies to un-gay people
1:41:15
They used to do Really? Yeah,
1:41:17
they would do lobotomies thinking that it could help
1:41:19
them Damn Cut the gay part out But
1:41:21
so actually they did it all, it was a positive thing The
1:41:23
article made it sound like it was negative, huh? Yeah,
1:41:26
see, I could be wrong but that's what it sounded like in
1:41:28
order for them to get help Or like if they want to,
1:41:31
something you can bill Is that right,
1:41:33
Nick? Are we in the right field here of it?
1:41:35
Yeah, I think Matt's right But I do think people
1:41:37
are just running with the headline and being like, Peru's
1:41:40
Peru's fucked up, yeah Yeah, and then like the
1:41:42
conservative side's like, fuck yeah, Peru Right, people will
1:41:44
just read the headline, that'll be it And
1:41:47
then he'll start like, fuck yeah, Peru Who
1:41:50
was that speaker? They had a guy who was
1:41:52
speaking yesterday It was the kicker from Harrison
1:41:55
Fucker Yeah, you see
1:41:57
this? This is going around He
1:42:00
was speaking at a Catholic school Benedict College.
1:42:03
Congratulations on an amazing
1:42:05
accomplishment. You should be proud of
1:42:07
all that you have achieved to this point in your young
1:42:10
lives. I want to speak directly
1:42:12
to you briefly because I think it is you,
1:42:14
the women, who have had the most diabolical lies
1:42:16
told to you. How many of
1:42:18
you are sitting here now about to cross this stage
1:42:21
and are thinking about all the promotions and titles you
1:42:23
are going to get in your career? Some
1:42:26
of you may go on to lead successful careers
1:42:28
in the world, but I would venture to guess
1:42:30
that the majority of you are most excited about
1:42:32
your marriage and the children you will bring into
1:42:34
this world. I can tell you
1:42:36
that my beautiful wife Isabelle would be
1:42:38
the first to say that her life truly
1:42:40
started when she began living her vocation as
1:42:43
a wife and as a mother. I'm
1:42:45
on this stage today and able to be the man I
1:42:48
am because I have a wife who
1:42:50
leans into her vocation. I'm
1:42:53
beyond blessed with the many talents God has given
1:42:55
me, but it cannot be overstated that
1:42:58
all of my success is made
1:43:00
possible because a girl I met
1:43:02
in being class back in middle school would
1:43:08
convert to the faith. You love middle school, huh? I'm
1:43:10
sure. In a
1:43:12
brain, one of the most important titles of all, hole
1:43:15
maker. Okay. You
1:43:17
know, it's kind of a sweet heartfelt
1:43:19
thing. It's just like, he may
1:43:21
have, he shouldn't might've, you know, ran that by. I
1:43:25
think it's a nice sentiment that he's trying to go
1:43:27
for, but it's also like, dude. Yeah.
1:43:32
He's saying that,
1:43:35
well, first of all, I wonder if
1:43:37
our school does it look at homemaking because
1:43:39
we live, a lot of people are divorced
1:43:41
now. People are raised with only one parent.
1:43:44
My mother had to work all the time. You
1:43:47
know, your dad, so then your mom has to do both jobs
1:43:49
or your dad has to do both jobs. A lot of times
1:43:51
if you're not able to see both parents, it's
1:43:54
not a safe place for even an animal to be
1:43:56
raised. Single parent. It
1:44:00
feels like a lot with our society. Dude, it's impossible.
1:44:02
They used to do that social work school Like there's
1:44:05
no difference between having a single parent and two parents.
1:44:07
It's like yeah, what the fuck are you talking about?
1:44:09
So different. It's a gigantic difference. It's impossible. I didn't
1:44:11
raise kids by myself. It's it's real It's you can't
1:44:13
it's hard to do. I'm not gonna say you can't
1:44:16
do it, but it's like it
1:44:18
is so fucking hard. It's crazy
1:44:21
So yeah, I don't think that this I
1:44:23
definitely understand where This
1:44:26
at a Christian college is Benedictine. It's telling
1:44:28
the Christian. Okay, so it's not that crazy
1:44:30
right my thing it's kind
1:44:32
of like I Do
1:44:35
feel like you know people do hear hate hearing
1:44:37
this but I there is some truth to that
1:44:39
in terms of like I do
1:44:42
think it's a I Just
1:44:44
feel sad if a woman does like it's all like, you know,
1:44:46
it has a jammed in her head that she has to like
1:44:49
Rise at a fortune 500 company and slowly is like
1:44:51
damn I kind of wish I like having kids is
1:44:53
more meaningful than being like an insurance sales,
1:44:56
you know, it's like in term of experience So
1:44:58
yeah, I feel like it's like it's a thing women have
1:45:00
is an insecurity that if they don't work They're somehow have
1:45:03
been brainwashed into Like some
1:45:05
old like, you know outdated value
1:45:07
system that like they should fight against it But you
1:45:09
know in reality, I do think
1:45:11
that a lot of women You
1:45:14
know Would probably like to not be
1:45:16
at their job and like, you know be at home doing stuff. Yeah
1:45:18
fucking it is a job It's a massive Undertaking
1:45:22
well, it's a job that's being it that's
1:45:24
not getting done right now Yeah, it feels
1:45:26
like in our country Yeah, cuz
1:45:28
it's almost like a pool like dude women like they're
1:45:30
allergic to like minivan So if you show a woman
1:45:32
a minivan they'll spaz like I'd never drive that then
1:45:34
they'll drive like a crossover Which is just a fucking
1:45:36
minivan in disguise. You can't tell them it's a minivan
1:45:38
You can't they'll spaz but there is something almost even
1:45:40
at night a crossover kind of like takes its fucking
1:45:43
side Form
1:45:48
all day Yeah, I
1:45:50
would never tell a woman like you can't work. No, you can
1:45:53
do whatever you want, of course Well,
1:45:55
I also think some of it isn't over like
1:45:57
there was a time where women like were abused
1:46:00
in the workplace, they were taken advantage
1:46:02
of, they were used for sex to
1:46:04
get promotions, they were promised promotions and
1:46:06
not giving them, they had no, they
1:46:10
would go to court, but the men in town
1:46:12
had the power and they would influence the judges,
1:46:14
there was no, it's a fucking nightmare, it's been
1:46:16
a nightmare for women to get the equality that
1:46:18
they needed. For sure. Who
1:46:21
also to just have money really,
1:46:23
which was the power. Yeah. Right,
1:46:26
it's definitely been a hell of a journey. But
1:46:28
yeah, I wonder sometimes if the pen will swing
1:46:30
back some and you will have more women
1:46:32
that are just like, I wanna be a
1:46:35
homemaker and I
1:46:37
wanna be a good mom and create
1:46:39
a good household. And a lot
1:46:41
of the women in our society, I think they're
1:46:43
a reflection of men. I
1:46:46
think we don't realize that a lot of times. If
1:46:48
your wife is happy, not all the time,
1:46:50
but they're
1:46:52
a reflection of men. Does
1:46:58
it make any sense? It does, it makes total sense, man. Like
1:47:01
if you love your wife and you
1:47:03
lift her up and you, then she
1:47:05
lives that way. Yeah. And
1:47:08
if as a father you do that probably with
1:47:10
your daughters, they live that way. Yeah. I
1:47:12
always sometimes feel like they're
1:47:15
a reflection of
1:47:18
the men in their lives. Yeah, it's true,
1:47:21
man, it's hard too, especially with any job, it's
1:47:23
just hard to remember, okay, yeah, because you get
1:47:25
so wrapped up in your job, you're
1:47:27
like, oh, I have to set up a
1:47:29
culture in this house and make sure everyone's okay and do
1:47:32
stuff. You get into a thing where you're just like, all
1:47:35
right, I'm done, my work, I'm gonna go home, we're gonna
1:47:37
watch TV, we're gonna chill, and I totally get that. But
1:47:39
yeah, it takes a lot of
1:47:41
effort and no one's really incentivizing you toward that
1:47:43
effort. With work, everyone's like, they're dangling carrots over
1:47:46
your face all day long,
1:47:48
but for having kids and raising a family,
1:47:50
it's totally up to you to
1:47:52
be like, here's how we're gonna do this and it's difficult.
1:47:54
But I do think women got sold an idea
1:47:57
that they have to be kick-ass businesswomen and anything
1:47:59
less than that. And that is like a failure and
1:48:01
like a disgrace for like the women struggle,
1:48:03
and it's like well I think that I
1:48:05
think the women struggle helped and people finding out like oh yeah
1:48:07
people were pretty miserable to women for a long Time you know
1:48:09
at least let them do whatever they whatever they really want to
1:48:11
do let them do I Get
1:48:14
my people are mad at that, but I still am like that's
1:48:16
not a bad thing He's genuinely thinks he's trying to help people man.
1:48:18
He's not trying to dig a like stay at home, bitch Yeah
1:48:22
At one point butler mentioned the word pride then clarified that
1:48:24
he wasn't talking about the deadly sin sort of pride that
1:48:27
as an entire To it, but
1:48:29
the true God-centered pride that is cooperating with the
1:48:31
Holy Ghost to glorify him okay, so
1:48:33
he really Oh, yeah, just a devout. He's
1:48:35
a devout Christian or Catholic maybe
1:48:38
I mean that's the thing is about some
1:48:40
of this It's like you can't go to
1:48:43
a devout Catholic and Then
1:48:45
and expect non devout Catholic shit. You know yeah,
1:48:47
I love about like the way the media covers
1:48:49
a lot of this stuff It's like yeah, most
1:48:52
people might not agree with the guy or some
1:48:54
people might not yeah But you can't go to
1:48:56
a chocolate shop And
1:48:58
get pissed when somebody fucking give you
1:49:00
some chocolate girl. Yeah, that
1:49:02
guy's a devout Catholic Then
1:49:05
that's what he believed it's like it was a
1:49:07
safe space He was in a safe space and
1:49:09
you know it's like if my dad sat in
1:49:11
like a liberal safe space He'd be incensed. He'd
1:49:13
freak yeah, so yeah, he doesn't go there, so
1:49:15
it's like yeah, I get it It's like dude. I
1:49:18
I get if you're gay that would piss you off
1:49:20
But if you're not gay or like whatever and if
1:49:22
you're like super Christian you're like fuck Yeah, it all
1:49:24
depends on what you're up to right there's people for
1:49:26
everybody You know but we act like sometimes the media
1:49:28
acts like there's not people for everybody in a way
1:49:31
They only want to create, but then that's their job.
1:49:33
Yeah, maybe I'm being a downer today No,
1:49:35
you're not being a downer. It is like I mean we're having
1:49:37
like There's
1:49:39
a guy Ken Wilbur who writes. I think it's like
1:49:41
the best take on this. I've ever heard about how
1:49:44
Historically human beings have gone through just
1:49:46
different levels of just consciousness consciousness where
1:49:49
it's like like originally the
1:49:52
thing that like Motivated humans like
1:49:54
the highest ideal is just being powerful and dominating
1:49:56
others like if you're a Roman if you're like
1:49:58
you know like Alexander the Great
1:50:01
if you went and fucked up a whole bunch of people You
1:50:04
were the man like you would be like God loves me This
1:50:06
is awesome, and then we kind of evolved into like Christianity and
1:50:08
all that you know Whatever that
1:50:11
was kind of like actually you know we should be nicer
1:50:13
to each other And then we came up like
1:50:15
we should be nice to other Christians and like kind of fuck
1:50:17
everybody else So we went from like they call it like power
1:50:19
gods To mythic membership and then
1:50:21
from mythic membership to the scientific worldview And
1:50:23
they're saying the last one the newest worldview
1:50:25
has been this kind of like Woke
1:50:28
kind of video like post-modern woke ideology and now we
1:50:30
have people at different levels of this and they're all just
1:50:32
entrenched in Their worldview and fighting each other hmm And
1:50:34
he's like it's just gonna go on you know until people
1:50:36
are just like alright fuck it and they transcend all
1:50:38
from like look Which you do your thing I get it.
1:50:41
I don't agree, but like I don't hate you because
1:50:43
of it Yeah, that's the part yeah,
1:50:45
I think hating people because of it's bizarre
1:50:47
to me, but I'm
1:50:49
not shot like a Christian
1:50:52
guy at a Christian college said some
1:50:54
really Christian shit. He did Like
1:50:57
that to me. It's not even fucking news. You
1:50:59
know it's like let him be who he wants
1:51:01
to be you know I love my wife, and
1:51:04
I'm not gay. It's like yeah, that's for sure
1:51:08
Yeah, I'm not yeah. I'm not gonna agree
1:51:10
with everything that God says everything, but let him speak if it's
1:51:12
like Yeah, I think the guy
1:51:14
should be able to speak um you said a little bit
1:51:16
ago Do you think there's like a wave of faith wave
1:51:19
that's starting up? I think okay here real quick I'm about
1:51:21
to I feel might pee my pants on camera. Go Pete
1:51:23
and we're almost done anyway. I was like a 5 a.m.
1:51:26
That was like five minutes long Amen
1:51:28
all right. Sorry about that. No
1:51:30
worries. It was a good pee. Hey. Yeah, I saw
1:51:33
you in there I can't you were peeing and
1:51:35
I came in and then Yeah,
1:51:37
when I left you were still peeing. I left
1:51:39
you yeah, I was it was crazy I was
1:51:41
embarrassed about how long I was being for like
1:51:44
come on dude area. Yeah, there is that weird
1:51:46
thing It's like it's so funny. You'll get embarrassed
1:51:48
if you can't pee yeah And then you'll get
1:51:50
embarrassed if you're peeing too long because people even
1:51:52
if you're standing there facing the urinal with your
1:51:54
wiener People be like that dude's taking a shit.
1:51:56
Yeah Like
1:52:00
this fucking dude is taking a shit or you'll
1:52:02
think the people outside think you're taking a shit
1:52:04
like At what point do people
1:52:07
think you're taking a shit looked at up? Shitting
1:52:09
in here and all's crazy too. That's a
1:52:11
wild move shooting at the earl Chibi
1:52:15
treason you should get hung yeah, I mean
1:52:21
Just be shot by a firing squad it's like well, no
1:52:23
it means you should be allowed to be a lifeguard Yeah,
1:52:25
okay According
1:52:28
to Scientific American mammals that weigh more than
1:52:30
six and a half pounds That's us take
1:52:32
about 21 seconds to urinate plus
1:52:34
or minus 13 seconds. Whoa you
1:52:36
see that last part Mm-hmm. Oh,
1:52:38
no when you pass a stool the
1:52:41
relaxation of the stronger anal sphincter Decreases
1:52:43
tension in the weaker urinary sphincter allowing
1:52:45
urine to pass the same. Okay? That's
1:52:48
what does that fact mean that you can pee while you poop
1:52:50
I Don't think you
1:52:52
can I don't think I've never done it If
1:52:57
you pee while you poop the fucking cops will show up Who
1:53:02
does that where the Philadelphia I've
1:53:05
never heard anyone successfully do it If
1:53:08
I would never do that dude, I'll yeah, I live
1:53:10
by a church They would know
1:53:12
immediately when I went in there. They're
1:53:14
like, yeah, he did it Um
1:53:18
you were talking about faith man, you think there's gonna
1:53:20
be like People
1:53:22
need something. I do think that not
1:53:25
having faith is There's
1:53:29
something that's not how people the rest of
1:53:31
this seems fucking Aimless life
1:53:33
starts. Yeah, I'm kind of aimless and purposeless. That's
1:53:35
the thing. Yeah. Yeah I don't I honestly like
1:53:37
you know it was like like Bill Maher was
1:53:39
all about this way back in the day when
1:53:41
he did religious where he went around and like
1:53:44
debated like Conservative
1:53:46
Baptist Christians down south and was like
1:53:48
you actually think a guy in the sky and
1:53:51
it's like that whole arguments ridiculous But
1:53:53
it was cool to be atheistic back when like
1:53:55
there was still kind of like a stronghold of
1:53:57
religion But now like we've lost it all
1:54:00
And it's, dude, it's terrifying to be
1:54:02
like, we're just totally alone. We're like a
1:54:04
cosmic mistake That's just like here like a
1:54:06
fucking amoeba just eating and shitting. It's I
1:54:10
think Now
1:54:12
that it's completely collapsed It'll get rebuilt in
1:54:14
a I think a more thoughtful kind
1:54:16
of way where it isn't like, you know A
1:54:18
literal interpretation of that's people's thing, right? But there's
1:54:20
like there it's evolved a lot in terms of
1:54:22
like the concept of God what it could possibly
1:54:24
mean like the consciousness In the universe there just
1:54:26
and then like you take like the Eastern stuff
1:54:28
that's kind of blending in and then
1:54:31
you add YouTube Which is like now people can
1:54:33
learn about anything kind of reconceptualize Their
1:54:35
own connection to God rather than just kind of like being
1:54:37
in Sunday school And you know and having someone just being
1:54:39
like this is how this works because there's like
1:54:42
with religion again This is more just Ken Wilber
1:54:44
stuff. He talks about there's like
1:54:46
translative religions where it's like them He's a human
1:54:48
being Ken Wilber. Yeah, he's human being for he's
1:54:50
doing his stuff I think he's one of the
1:54:52
smartest guys out there still alive. Yeah,
1:54:54
he's still alive He lives I think he lives
1:54:56
in Boulder. He's a 75. But yeah,
1:54:59
so he talks about him. Let's keep that in
1:55:01
the list, bro He would be a fantastic get
1:55:04
But he talks about this how a lot of
1:55:06
the religion people grew up with here is like Translative
1:55:08
where just kind of like here's how the universe was
1:55:10
built and here's what happened then and it doesn't there's
1:55:12
no process toward
1:55:15
Like transforming yourself. He's like there's translative and
1:55:18
then there's transformative religion A lot
1:55:20
of the Eastern stuff is more about like transforming yourself,
1:55:22
but then that you know, whatever so like
1:55:24
I think within within here if people can
1:55:27
kind of start to learn about they are
1:55:29
pathways to Transform yourself over an
1:55:31
entire lifetime to make you a more loving
1:55:34
person and like, you know, you can tap it whatever I
1:55:36
don't know. I'm like out of my element with you sound
1:55:38
insane a little but I Also
1:55:41
think that you're a very smart guy and
1:55:43
a super communicative guy man, but I think
1:55:45
um, yeah I think there is
1:55:47
it is getting I was just joking. No, it's funny
1:55:49
And I do I lose the thread hard on myself.
1:55:51
Oh, I hate that dude, dude. It happens to me
1:55:53
all the time I swear I'm like I'm right there.
1:55:56
I'm the last bro. It's like we tell people to
1:55:58
come over you gonna show them something in there Nothing
1:56:00
there But
1:56:02
it's like 30 feet away. I can feel
1:56:04
it. That's the problem. I can feel it. I
1:56:06
just can't put it into work Oh, yeah, dude,
1:56:08
um imagine on Biden fields Nothing.
1:56:12
I make fun of him all the time. I'm just as bad as him.
1:56:14
I'm like But
1:56:16
they're like when you do learn about stuff like imagine
1:56:18
when he closes off you just see it's just like
1:56:21
a page and eating a caramel or whatever There's
1:56:24
nothing in there Easy, he's
1:56:26
only just being used obviously by the
1:56:28
new Jim Henson whoever those people are
1:56:32
But no there is something about religion there is something
1:56:34
about like Yeah, having
1:56:36
faith having believing in something that's greater than us
1:56:39
And yeah, I think maybe we get away from
1:56:41
like the word It's like not
1:56:43
as locked into the words of things but more
1:56:45
about the feeling and what
1:56:47
it means to be human and
1:56:50
then also like if you use certain religions if Christianity
1:56:53
or Mohammedism or
1:56:56
whatever is your Pathway
1:56:58
to believe in faith then that's just
1:57:00
your that's your pathway You know I
1:57:02
think getting past the point of like
1:57:04
thinking that no one else can have
1:57:06
another pathway to like that seems kind
1:57:08
of outdated You know that's the
1:57:11
can Wilbur guys. That's it's an example of
1:57:13
mythic membership We were like my group has
1:57:15
absolute direct access to reality everyone else is
1:57:17
wrong And he says what we're all
1:57:19
get to eventually is called tier two thinking where you go
1:57:21
like I can see where you're coming from This is kind
1:57:23
of my thing I what you're doing sick We're all kind of
1:57:25
doing you know the same thing in essence of like different You
1:57:28
know we got like different clothes on to it in terms
1:57:30
of our thoughts We're all doing the same thing But yeah,
1:57:32
dude It's like there's like dude if without I think
1:57:34
if you're if you're religious like actually religious like
1:57:36
you have like a spirit real spiritual connection I
1:57:38
think on average you live like eight years longer.
1:57:40
Yeah, it's crazy They study and the studies are
1:57:43
just like irrefutable. Oh well imagine.
1:57:45
Just the only thing that you cared about I mean,
1:57:47
I even noticed is I get older. It's like I
1:57:49
don't have a family where I don't have a wife
1:57:51
or children I'm at
1:57:54
home sometimes, and I'm like what am I even doing
1:57:56
yeah? Yeah? I've done that myself where
1:57:58
you sit there, and you're like What am I gonna do
1:58:00
now? What is the purpose of any, or what is like, like
1:58:04
there's purposeful stuff that happens in moments and things
1:58:06
to think about and enjoy. And I'm not being
1:58:08
like a downer about myself or about my life,
1:58:10
but just like, yeah,
1:58:14
there must be something greater than just
1:58:16
this. And so yeah,
1:58:18
I think family helps you see that believing
1:58:21
in something, getting up every day and believing that
1:58:23
the universe cares about you. I
1:58:25
think having a society that reflects that
1:58:27
we care about each other and that
1:58:29
we care about the universe and that
1:58:32
it cares about us too, you know?
1:58:34
Yeah, it's not that crazy to be
1:58:36
like, like we somehow consciousness emerged within
1:58:38
our heads. Why would it
1:58:40
not be something prevalent? Like why would it not
1:58:42
be in the universe itself? Like
1:58:44
the universe at whole isn't conscious,
1:58:46
but somehow out of unconsciousness, we
1:58:48
have consciousness. It gets real crazy.
1:58:51
It is, it's total cap. But it's
1:58:53
like- The fucking cap as fuck, dude. It sounds like crazy.
1:58:55
You think a universe that can't think made something that could
1:58:57
think, dude? And designed itself perfectly.
1:59:01
It's unbelievable the way it's set up. Perfectly.
1:59:04
So yeah, for me, the older I've gotten, I've
1:59:06
been like, you know, and
1:59:08
that's why they call it faith. It's like, I can't
1:59:10
prove it, but it's like I will definitely hedge my
1:59:12
bets. I'm like, dude, the universe, it's also like, it's
1:59:15
like an ant trying to explain
1:59:17
Florida. Like they can't, and they can't comprehend
1:59:19
Florida, but like for some reason humans have
1:59:21
this inkling that there is something beyond themselves. And
1:59:24
it's totally universal too. That's a
1:59:26
good point, dude. Totally universal in human
1:59:28
beings throughout pretty much all of time.
1:59:31
Yeah, you'd have to, how could you trick? You could
1:59:33
never, and it's not even like, I don't even know
1:59:35
a ton about religion, but if I look up at
1:59:37
this fucking sky at night, I feel like there's
1:59:40
something happening here. Exactly,
1:59:42
exactly. What do
1:59:45
you say exactly? Exactly.
1:59:47
You go, I am that sky. There's
1:59:49
a man with a gun over there.
1:59:51
And now we're back in Philadelphia. Guys,
1:59:55
Matt McCusker. Congratulations.
2:00:00
Everybody loves you so much. I'm so grateful that
2:00:02
you and Shane have each other and have been
2:00:04
on this journey together and Yeah,
2:00:07
just thanks for coming to spend the time with us today. Thanks for having
2:00:09
me man
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