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On this episode of those

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conspiracy guys. We talked

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about one of the most dramatically interconnected

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man in conspiracy lure,

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a man who had more fingers in

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more places than mr. Kipling and

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who was responsible for more rock than

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William Johnson, the king

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of cocaine. And the reason I want

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to had something to, to the seventies and in

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America. This episode, we're

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talkin about Barry seal

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the tragic and almost comical subject of

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two thousand seventeen tom cruise for them american

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made barry seal was much more

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than bit part character in withering

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web of drugs and government shenanigans or

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he will disappear fit for the came to a lot

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of operations that were world changing

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culture morphing and lot of flying

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his actions field and fonda's some of most

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influential and destructive foreign policy

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and united states history our

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he was essentially playlist a damn

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good one the man very little

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conscience and big brass bollocks

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the when was caught smuggling drugs with the

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a he was given an option

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in where humor government agencies he made

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powerful allegiances and worked his way

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through the system to become almost untouchable

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up to the level of the white house and if

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possible the on

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very work with many different branches of intelligence

1:28

community running guns for the cia

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spying for the d a informing

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the f b i and generally seen

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all sides when make it few books here

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in there the only

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presence in the history of this period is the united

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states is only the tippy top

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of a gigantic iceberg of black ops

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and inhumane policy the us government

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engaged and twelve the seventies

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and eighties and the

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ever stopped or

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he was involved in the really of guns the anti

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communist rebels in south america and

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from boarding call came back to her gut

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feeling the drugs crisis to just say

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no era of reagan's presidency and

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drug addled gang warfare of

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new york an early what

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is most famous far but he

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may been secretly involved this type of operation

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much earlier during the vietnam war

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our email powerful friends including

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the drug lord pablo escobar and

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ahead of cia george hw bush

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the bullies barry

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operated as as he was untouchable and

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when parties for your future us

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president and offended by all and

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sundry and multiple branches us law enforcement

2:38

community you would get big heavy

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yourself when you though

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obviously this all couldn't continue indefinitely

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and barry made too many enemies

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and the party have to come to an end the

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data barry seal is somewhat of mystery

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still and who is really responsible

2:56

maybe we'll never know bought

2:58

the story we will tell to the is

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just a small sliver of a much

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bigger system of corruption collusion

3:05

conspiracy and control that

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we may never really understand the

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full scale up what you

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can see it's results on our streets and

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in our homes to this very day oh

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who was barry seal really a renegade

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fly ball your groomed and trained government

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operative why

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with barry seal so untouchable by law

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enforcement the

3:30

barry have a bigger paint vietnam war to these biography

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shows how

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much control of us government have over

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paolo escobar and who could bury common

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goal so easily from columbia how

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much to barry know but these black operations

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and if you were alive to the could shed some more light

3:49

the dark activities cia de

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i f b a and others who

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actually killed very seal and why was his

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apparent assassination links closely

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to so many other suicides and mysterious

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death one

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barry seal working directly for clintons and

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is not houses operationally to function

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so freely and mena arkansas or

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was all just a coincidence a

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comedy of errors woodbury

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just man operating in blind spots

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of legal jurisdiction and fallen

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through the cracks of jurisdictional bureaucracy

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though join us coconspirators as

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leader of the engine of intrigue and slay

4:33

low and slow to the way their field of conspiracy

4:36

dodging bullets of suspicion as they lay

4:38

in pairs of their heads searching

4:40

my or slams for bales of truth to

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scrape into greedy lines of allegations

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as we get high on our own supply of

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the alarmingly real sites and history of this

4:49

episode of those conspiracy guys guys

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time weird how can time weird

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barry seal it

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what are you have voted those confer

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the eyes lit fine we're

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we're talking about talking think possibly one

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of the most interconnected put like

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prolifically conspiratorial

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characters in the whole conspiracy cannon

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this point where tom barry seal the

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the cia operation ship

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drugs in a note of

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south america into the u s known as the

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enterprise but mostly this episodes about

5:47

barry seal a bald man

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at a naughty pop who transported

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who the dollars and

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thousands and thousands of kilos or pounds

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of the american to the from from south america

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the us at were talking

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connections between a government

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agencies b a cia de

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a t s a as

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b t all the latter

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arthur organizations these laughs

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all had fingers into pies barry

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feels the bakery there

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it's such an interconnected show i don't

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know what you're expecting coming into this i

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didn't expect to find really found looking

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into this stuff there's so many other offshoots

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coming from this episode just so you know this

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will not be a definitive as

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like full deep dive into all the little

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bits and bobs like the clintons

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an operation con door and

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all of a dead that south american stuff

6:41

like pablo escobar and of medina

6:43

cartel are going to get their own episode as well

6:45

as at so many offshoots but

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this one is linchpin episode where time

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a berry see it as a nice little cleaner smorgasbord

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of sixty seventy the sixties

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seventies early any conspiracy

6:57

theory hits all

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the told through the the tale of

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one of my me obese and

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very braggadocio the gentleman

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from louisiana known as a

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barry seal and join me in

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studio all the way from across

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the nation nation least

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eight i

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, to add strapping gentlemen

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here join me the studio and i am

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very grateful for their first time on

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a deep dive both with to a

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we've to the diverges the has we

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have from waterford whispers on

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there that guy you've probably seen on reddit or

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twitter twitter opposed

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to beautiful mind wrapped in beautiful hair

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of and mr during the great jerry within

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show heineken bottle of to be have a it's

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a fantastic to have yeah my blood sugar

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is rising even just thinking about how many in

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studio at the ccg three

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or the third reich of or to call it a mark another

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site lawyer and assets

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eight thousand getting studio and

7:53

damn you are you join

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me on the much

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appreciate his and very

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well received episode on

8:03

mister chris been well yes

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and and like you know it in in my memory

8:08

that's like last week of week before corner

8:10

yeah but in actual fact that years ago city

8:13

tomorrow i'm not i'm not i'm not regular new for not get

8:15

me bygone quick enough to play with late and twelve

8:17

magazine yeah and i had your in middle

8:19

of the man's i lived in the didn't have focus you deal

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to to have an answer the you

8:23

home to the studio in dublin especially

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point

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can to do have to do than one and

8:29

one that was this guy was a

8:30

why is dublin missouri and wife

8:32

and watson was they want your time and of yes

8:34

this is unknown but and

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and i'm delighted that you have me on here talk about i'm

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so happy to remarry seal who is as

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we get into it here he is

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google street view mine yeah

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see if of drugs yeah like you know

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anywhere a anywhere between

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as you say years of cia a d or up

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north downs are you just have barry

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seal and you can drop in literally anywhere

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if you taking cocaine in the seventies

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or eighties probably

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, through the hands of very soon yeah

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that's one point although a classic cocaine

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before the running the new recipe well i

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mean that other voice you hear you may notice

9:11

from a switch episodes as

9:13

the port arthur massacre

9:15

the southern hemispheres answer

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to the uncontrolled

9:20

whatsoever about ,

9:22

married with brilliant idea is jim

9:24

be be drives

9:27

in drives goldman city

9:30

we have mr de more clacton more comedian

9:32

extraordinary comedian know you buy nobody

9:34

many years of doing or you from of doing was hit

9:36

back in the is a i can very day

9:38

go around game ugly and and already

9:40

had a magma thanks man pleasant valley

9:42

i was single it is probably the first on the all three of

9:44

us being together and we're all dad's

9:46

now

9:47

oh my god first we've been together the same room

9:49

aware of dad's man i'm glad

9:51

if i'm wrong the same room to room just spillane

9:53

seed for nothing for nothing for no

9:55

good purpose analogy

9:58

the lasers them lasers the didn't

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make any people at all and then we all have people

10:03

that real a table and worry

10:05

that up because while we all looked more wrecked

10:07

than we do yet yet but mainly because barry seal

10:09

with the data three i might

10:11

original might live with

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his dad

10:14

why you are possibly sick he probably was

10:16

do that so many how many are

10:18

as johnson and he was short straw movie had

10:20

couple of mired as the the copa the silver

10:23

talking about we children got bit shortly after

10:25

he death as well the that came looking as

10:27

they do be careful as am

10:29

but to annual youre youre still treading the boards

10:31

doing comedy as well as you can you had

10:33

to i i feel a fantastically

10:36

successful

10:37

anti anti corvid comedy

10:40

career a yeah yeah the you

10:42

you circumvented them

10:44

circumvented it's probably the says make illegal

10:46

you as skirted the

10:49

the orders of good ahead and decency

10:51

by going people's houses and doing gigs into for

10:53

come back gardens which i toss and i said on the

10:55

so many times with the

10:58

most genius comedy entrepreneurial

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move

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of the all of the vulgar latin a

11:03

like that will go genius and not desperate

11:07

for , just had to dig oliver

11:09

from their theories and commandment consumes

11:11

of things not yet we all have gone

11:13

have kids so i mean songs mean desperate enough

11:15

as i said yes yes sober did a

11:18

name is myself and danny broad my earlier like

11:21

like sometimes even as arzamas memories are some

11:23

of with other pals what did car parks

11:25

with the blocks of flats with back yards and

11:27

yards three parties not whatever silly barry

11:29

seal be to how we were gonna

11:31

put around like when you were the checkpoints

11:33

worse because we have ways ways

11:36

app that was our like guess that was that like

11:38

cia oh that's where all the airports

11:40

that is a lie down the road blocks the i like

11:42

we're looking at ways like okay with the drugs were

11:44

in florida i flew over how many jokes

11:46

he's also the yet yet we're hiding

11:48

them occupied odds are good and under

11:50

the undercarriage the car switch

11:54

alternate the bottom of your you're not a microphone

11:56

deadly diseases compartment in boot for earlier

11:59

tables

12:00

yeah i love of brought here tell joke

12:02

into the for the and keep on

12:04

, up your mess as like he told his are great and

12:06

later it yet yet no i

12:08

thought was like such a good idea

12:10

you is executed so so well you had

12:12

it a comedy tv special pullen birds

12:15

a media as like fantastic

12:17

stop and then you into cited like teaching

12:19

kids in schools were like workshops

12:21

and comedy yeah man beautiful thing

12:23

man or and like that when we're talking on the phone

12:26

and always like phone and cracking up emotionally

12:28

code that was one the best things ever like a two

12:30

kids are find troubled like the find

12:33

it tough like i find it trouble talking

12:35

able to the kind of talks but

12:36

they'd couldn't even talk to the like the appears such

12:39

and then give a microphone ago

12:41

the total of some the you enjoyed still some

12:43

the yeah normally like a rupture and i

12:45

go up at all my and the teachers

12:47

what the back the jaws drop your i've never heard

12:49

this kid told before and like

12:51

fourteen fifteen years of age and was our

12:54

might some the best of and hilarious

12:56

do something so magical about being given

12:58

the platform

13:00

without fear of recrimination are

13:02

ferris in all of a

13:04

blowback anybody think making

13:06

you stand on your point like that you can just have

13:09

the freedom able

13:11

to just speak your mind and laser

13:14

turn it into a conversation where you can learn adapted

13:16

just

13:17

no empathize and switches

13:20

of route but i think the best thing

13:22

for most ideas the

13:25

lead to have sunlight and if it's bad

13:27

idea the sunlight disinfect that's

13:30

good idea it can right

13:32

now potter people's lives

13:34

i think that a speaker of

13:36

i would probably the most important thing

13:38

the humans can be doing now yeah be

13:40

a bad or good on an oil out of percent lot

13:42

bad stuff

13:43

the fighting is worse like pushing that stuff

13:45

down be it like you know hate speech whatever

13:47

for concerts our if it's

13:49

like i feel bad about me says are

13:52

maybe i think these things you the inner voice

13:55

enhance your bala guess i wouldn't you

13:57

may leave our city and you're saying all

13:59

stuff to yourself

14:00

you say that lives among us know enough about the case

14:02

because this

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yeah and it fucking kill that she dead

14:06

surgery or your yeah i think that all the time it's

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just

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we're not alone yeah i find

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a lotta people and the lot of young people

14:13

say mediums and meme as in this is not as

14:16

is do shillings this is it and it's looking

14:18

like this and i'm like and

14:20

that is amazing it was my head

14:22

like cholesterol the

14:24

beautiful

14:26

the know that like the bullshit and

14:28

the dick jokes and all the focus either way to be gonna

14:30

win on show

14:31

the able get out he was like an appetizer

14:33

identify with that feeling of you going into schools

14:36

interact directly with the kids in vienna here's

14:39

the fuck and platform

14:41

the your so yeah and then just as we

14:43

know because having kids all kids really want

14:45

decide or spicy to parents as they want be

14:47

heard he has some a mama mama data data

14:49

done and let live and then they'll say something like a

14:51

broken record to repay the golan train

14:53

a different i think mama mama yeah mama

14:55

mama mama mama mama da da da da

14:57

da da da da da da you

15:00

, know the new zealand that's is

15:02

is the that that many toilet paper

15:05

like lot of your runners a flight my

15:07

boss lot of for like that's

15:09

of for instinct and that reminder like when

15:11

we were that age we were doing the same but able

15:13

to wants to be heard really torn apart

15:16

we just want be heard and then if

15:18

the don't than that there might be it and anything going

15:20

on my be

15:22

maybe holding something back as don't think though

15:25

understand because because on different above

15:27

above beyond but few other things

15:29

that think to different site lad it can go

15:31

on like the like it's a the entertaining

15:33

or people go i yeah i get exactly where the

15:35

person's going from in lot of people are are pretty

15:37

much the same yeah the sun

15:40

is going to be heard good with side of the show

15:42

them that i met some pretty for can dive stuff

15:44

instead of would have lightness a bit of against

15:46

we just want be heard that's what people do cocaine wet

15:48

noodle or that yeah not bazooka like because

15:51

they just want be heard and nobody wants the elites

15:53

okay that makes it makes talk

15:55

and not listen it's fantastic as the published

15:57

making is is probably better than at giving cocaine

15:59

to still that's why i'm and that's

16:02

where going with all that's good to for good version

16:04

of the guy i've heard of this if

16:06

you take one thing from this is

16:08

, a word is better

16:10

than cocaine yeah okay cause

16:12

damage somebody poets they'd be they'd these

16:15

women like just track

16:18

on the mark diet track out the crack the

16:20

lists of yes oh this

16:22

absorbs the barry seal boys without

16:25

further ado the

16:27

secretary

16:28

you know animals look very field before we started

16:30

as like to post the put the listener

16:32

in the same places we

16:35

moved on the research over the last oil

16:37

like i was up to five o'clock this morning

16:39

the one deep into for can like a you know

16:41

murders suicides arkansas

16:45

as we get later on we all know who is can

16:47

you who's responsible for legit but

16:49

i could you give you had your hard like barry seal

16:51

mallory started recording for the shows romney

16:53

there's there's probably like lot people like i'd i'd

16:55

seen the tom cruise movie i good movie

16:57

under

16:59

other than reading into it for the podcast

17:01

here you realize that movie was one

17:03

was it was a movie based on true events

17:05

and based on true events his own broad

17:08

umbrella yeah the

17:10

they

17:10

are buried based on true story

17:12

to have based in bold looks like it's loosely

17:16

affiliated with something that maybe might happened

17:18

based on true story the may may not have happened to

17:20

barry seal are anywhere around

17:22

but the more that i got into barry seal

17:24

for the podcast i realized

17:28

it's it's like when you go for a while then

17:30

you turn radical like holy shit i am nowhere near

17:32

the house and wondered yeah

17:34

i'm far away that was what

17:36

was with by dealt with the researchers

17:38

podcast i like holy shit the

17:40

feel as far in the distance here there's

17:43

so much stuff between as

17:46

people searching for information the

17:48

to bury feel was it and there's

17:50

so much like green

17:52

lush feel hidden information

17:54

between here and there was lot of his of

17:56

and then and then these lads showed

17:58

up and then and then or before

18:01

before adding in the movie happened

18:04

yeah wave other movies and stuff had already

18:06

happened last thing the falcon melted

18:08

my far as and and and unlike you know

18:10

you know it's like the gold rates that

18:12

the subjects you know you're going with okay barry seal flew

18:15

planes copy of cocaine here

18:17

and there

18:18

they will story employees as soon as

18:21

i , at it and then you turn radical like

18:23

ah attack and then the government

18:25

nearly collapsed yeah that

18:28

three times a of yes yeah i

18:30

too had i'd seen the movie think that's where

18:32

i got to know the name of bears the i heard

18:34

you know heard of him before but him get a cat he was

18:36

that god so that was the base parts

18:38

but also can be just quickly say about

18:41

how our i mean costing

18:43

tom cruise costing mean the seal family

18:45

must have been absolutely no license it's like

18:47

fighting in fact to find the opposite is true

18:49

but mean but mean wonder is is the movie

18:51

yet you know a propaganda cover

18:54

up like it that's all the stuff comes out

18:56

of us

18:57

hillary clinton and because a guy

18:59

with the clinton's old small but with the will be

19:01

whole episode don't get your focus declared

19:04

the your flaps was just vs on clinton's

19:06

been outside barry seal wasn't a handsome man

19:08

sure but was and tom cruise

19:10

well again is tom cruise got to make this movie

19:12

and haunted down this movie to make us

19:14

the rune about the time that

19:16

hillary clinton lost the election

19:19

ah and potentially

19:22

this movie could have been like a let's

19:24

get a story of their that completely

19:26

vs over exonerates any kind of

19:30

really a sinner information across

19:32

over with like bill be in there the

19:35

governor of arkansas and atlanta barry seal

19:37

was getting away with sorkin

19:40

murder year in arkansas

19:42

to buy like all these paintings to to distance

19:44

themselves from story itself

19:47

he thought like american made

19:49

from twenty seventeen may possibly

19:52

could have been like a beautifully made propaganda

19:54

piece

19:55

the timing amendment and then but

19:58

i like sad movie son the

20:00

demand it has been inaugurated

20:02

anywhere did for them i said you know i

20:04

think this tom cruise guy he runs in every movie he's

20:06

great aladdin yeah and it's quite funny

20:08

because having having tom cruise hey

20:10

barry field that's a bit like move that trump and

20:13

having ryan gosling as the mayans

20:15

a set aside for looks was hundred years if

20:17

it's available to the movie a very very

20:19

tom cruise part

20:21

, the movie with his rod his his

20:23

missus who's bombed in film lawyer in

20:25

that was flying the plane death and

20:27

yeah oh yeah the for years mean

20:30

when you see photos of are so how could see

20:32

even fit between him and the like

20:34

the joystick the plane will the plane

20:37

lie two boys and i explained in

20:39

order for gonna come back to me and this

20:42

is underscored and twitter of like what

20:45

they called barry when he was gone and columbia

20:48

when gordo el dorado ah

20:52

that way receivership as thought he caught it

20:54

but barry record of iraq up to

20:56

the colombian to be like the aim would chatters

20:59

is a a al gore though

21:01

he's the gringo always delivers the

21:03

i want sell good i mean daughter and

21:06

means that the fat

21:09

guy

21:09

in front of

21:12

, night us that guy

21:14

and in nigeria and yeah no no home

21:17

yeah north my name is where look like this is

21:19

my actual name yeah yeah i'm quite awesome

21:21

gordon not the spanish owes

21:23

them something like that and are you so you

21:25

know it by can weeks back into detente linux

21:28

feel spanish accents oodles of these was in

21:30

ames gordo and they're like like

21:33

was while you'll ever know yard not ah

21:35

i was like and var though in my spent

21:37

alone a cs and i

21:39

cannot coca cola like this is joke

21:42

and about but then obviously been obese are you couldn't

21:44

hide and which are they call them

21:46

as gordo aylesbury and right there was

21:48

this huge man am i get sense of how you

21:50

write somebody in a plane in sky

21:53

it's

21:53

like trying to write someone the ticket and to our yeah

21:55

assistant like i was just it is doable

21:57

but not comfortable yet like it was that tom cruise

22:00

they've gone look at the bang someone's area

22:02

and like

22:03

even today said that barry loved the ladies

22:05

were like let's do with his wife now that

22:07

all ties with are probably just like he even

22:09

an intercept american scrubbers though

22:11

probably it'll feel drawn about

22:14

the player has blown is malcolm

22:16

neil young ones where folk and to the that undermines

22:18

somewhere an economic as the

22:21

one thing that i did pick up threads is

22:23

holding and and and

22:25

if you've never heard our sealer and like that

22:27

is a southern gentleman oh yea from

22:29

the exam yeah baton rouge an old

22:31

is kind of thing so evident watched

22:33

or listen to everybody says like plants

22:35

from the golden get a

22:38

, and added and to hear that gone as like

22:40

the price of the bridges went up dorothy

22:42

severe severe ff

22:44

ff to

22:47

have good both those the peggy will

22:49

be in a swimmer and yes

22:51

i am

22:53

barry seal it tom cruise

22:55

is depiction of bases accents didn't

22:58

really room like i was afraid of that was gonna remove

23:00

me my defensively edit

23:03

the the suspension my disbelief in

23:05

movie it didn't it all was like yet

23:07

is where he's brilliant way better than is irish accents

23:10

or any other than any other day is

23:12

why mountain time levels of taro

23:14

aso the but i am yeah that

23:16

the the louisiana kinda takes the thing

23:18

at it with it's real cleaner

23:20

if we can i respect and like it like a like a

23:22

riyadh is really pardon the expression

23:24

older sense had been crack yeah like

23:27

many many biblical

23:30

would you take your cygnus field of kind i

23:32

guess they just had a cat that as head on

23:35

a , se that are you going to

23:37

drink your fleet he would know hand

23:39

hand simply for our children self

23:41

children or , day when

23:45

all a or know yet what

23:47

of be yet guests yoga accept them

23:50

as sec one couple of to taliban

23:53

but i'm yeah like barry seal i

23:55

found in my ye

23:57

investigations into stuff like claimed the

23:59

clan the into you're

24:01

watching narco stuff like that

24:04

he showed up his character show up in

24:06

indianapolis and netflix show her don't if

24:08

he goes watch that he played illness i

24:10

don't remember the name of actor

24:12

the only in like two episodes and he shows and is bit

24:14

part such but that had

24:16

a wall a bigger like influence

24:18

in cartel then let's on

24:20

in the show in or am

24:22

i watched american made movies

24:25

where the seventeen they like dismal vulgar has to have

24:27

an episode done on for crack for

24:29

for the last year that i

24:31

also heard of him in them the

24:34

research into gary webb who will also have his own

24:36

episodes and the

24:38

webinar perhaps okay the

24:41

gary webb i am he

24:43

was assassinated by the as the a

24:45

because was doing an investigative

24:47

journalism into the the

24:49

importation cocaine or to us which is a

24:51

an ancillary story after like

24:53

barry seal with the man was making a whip

24:55

am webinars the looks webinars

24:59

it's , pretty good as your leyland

25:01

for to people if my home like they're like a

25:03

webinar no no no he's nice was do than that

25:05

was his role like the so i went outward

25:07

clearing out very but of yep so me less

25:09

committed suicide and like was twenty four a

25:11

oh twenty two dozen dozen whatever was

25:14

and i yawned still meet me

25:16

how yeah yeah sometimes or back

25:18

and had twice whatever worst case and was there was a

25:20

boss am

25:22

the all these little ancillary stories

25:24

the calm before and after bases interwoven

25:27

at will even talked with the jfk assassination

25:30

at the end of this yeah all whites

25:32

if we did an episode with an

25:35

amazon adam park amazon the

25:37

war on drugs long and ever ago

25:40

we talked about am a

25:42

little bit about barry in dash

25:44

where at richard nixon

25:46

created the the a leisurely to

25:49

at enron reagan created the war on drugs

25:51

and nineteen eighty two ten years later and

25:54

you know nancy be like if somebody off

25:56

as use some really great trails is gonna

25:58

make feel real good clean dry

26:00

the cheap clean for

26:02

nice high with kind of you know like

26:04

and sputnik and sparkly finished

26:06

to say know there's your ira

26:09

you're not sell it to me

26:11

this you say no campaign and then like the likes

26:13

of freeway riki ross and

26:15

these guys who are basically like to crack

26:17

lords who

26:20

wrinkled cocaine into the an

26:22

urban area in on us and affordable

26:24

for everybody exactly i created

26:27

a guy like a gang culture

26:30

was gang warfare people fight not retire from selling

26:33

crack like a fun saw his mother

26:36

a exactly take little bit of the

26:38

recipe it's like folk emerge delia smith

26:40

the summer it's suspects a little bit

26:42

of baking powder to permit to

26:44

gently sold in your cocaine

26:46

like was this kind of transit sunrise

26:52

, would go ahead ahead

26:54

what is there like such

26:56

as fuck and web and gary web

26:59

of lies to cease am

27:02

the and cocaine is at the center without

27:04

a even we talked in there might

27:06

luther king episodes and the malcolm

27:08

x episode about them the thirteenth

27:10

amendment to the american constitution was

27:13

basically legalized slavery in the prison

27:15

industrial complex where

27:17

l bunch of fortune five hundred companies make at

27:20

like predominantly black man in

27:22

american jails which had the highest incarceration

27:24

rates in the world at work for

27:26

like fifteen cents an hour a tiger

27:29

to make a mitten and like million dollars

27:31

worth of products of these companies and

27:34

at all these guys in jail

27:36

on these like three strikes the

27:39

rules are on the zero tolerance

27:41

and the crack cocaine

27:43

that

27:44

like but minimum mandatory sensors because

27:46

the reagan's war on drugs whereas powder

27:48

cocaine which is

27:49

usually reserved for the

27:51

at the upper echelons the rich

27:53

people where's crack was like cheaper drove

27:56

for for for lower income people to

27:58

chicago cracking mandatory mandatory citizens

28:00

of like a so all and as

28:02

all mixed together on as very very

28:05

center of us the kind of a sweaty

28:08

the the heavy breathing

28:10

at mass is is is

28:12

elderberry been sealed it seems

28:14

like a fork and crazy dory

28:17

and like the soil of tequila history

28:19

a lot to train contextualize history into conspiracy

28:22

because can toggle evoke a flat are eating toddler

28:24

shit that may or may not be real on

28:26

conspiracy show and take earlier bollocks and

28:28

argument the black uber saturn you

28:30

know what can the

28:31

to they mention lizard peter file

28:33

aliens drink and children's blows widowed

28:36

ernie real proof allow

28:38

the conjecture lot of supposition

28:40

this is actual sexual historical

28:42

evidence with documents pictures

28:45

names dates payslips

28:47

for game flight logs you

28:49

know a photographs that

28:52

quote from president really have

28:55

tangible shit and

28:57

and and and to make it all the sweet are riddled

28:59

with unreliable liars oh

29:02

yeah so on leaving letter

29:04

nice little sort of layer of yeah because

29:06

could be real or not around and say exactly

29:08

and so many people involved so many huge

29:11

players and names and mansion on rag and

29:13

the am swallowed those like the freeway

29:15

ricky roth in crack epidemic to bloods and crips

29:17

analyst offices on them so gary webb is it's own

29:20

pablo escobar the song and

29:22

building up one on the clintons and pizza

29:24

gay which will also include like arkansas

29:26

and the early careers of

29:29

bill and hillary which were basically get and rapists

29:31

off and legalizing cocaine and us

29:34

with took a distillery her ah

29:36

fuck and hillary clinton man is that is

29:41

like i don't hear lot people but it just

29:43

see for green card marathon when serums

29:46

like demand the she uses in if

29:48

she has become the present like what kind world building

29:50

the now didn't handle

29:52

i last saw that ourselves article my future

29:55

episodes barry seal the

29:56

used to be epicenter of an awful lot stuff like what

29:58

was most is so these when it's why the those

30:01

was frightening event the

30:03

do that he could

30:05

are we we go straight into well it wasn't really

30:07

big questions

30:09

that all one else tell this to jerry last night like to like

30:11

that like just to sit just to to clear

30:13

my mind up little bit or our

30:15

chat is the two big ones both

30:17

obviously based from america why

30:20

american president the bow the base

30:22

don't want their citizens

30:25

enjoying themselves on drugs and

30:28

the completely different but sort of related why

30:30

do americans hate communists so much

30:33

there's , things that keep coming up that i kind

30:35

of my head around and i have my own series

30:37

but like through chatting and it seems that two

30:39

completely different things but very soon

30:42

links them boasts a

30:44

elect to political philosophy

30:48

in mobilize yes

30:50

i like and and a lot of comes down to that's

30:52

a nice god yeah but if if these two things

30:55

weren't an issue than we might

30:57

not have have of this winter episode

30:59

on marijuana we found out about the classifications

31:01

the schedule and system for drugs

31:03

in america is absolutely bonkers that

31:05

you have like magic mushrooms marijuana they're

31:08

like the are are you at least used to

31:10

be the

31:11

shed will one droves is like the worst of worst

31:13

the worst command of the schedule to lsd

31:16

is actually more the

31:19

more dangerous and like

31:22

higher illegality than cocaine

31:25

good what's good for writing songs the i

31:27

mean that way i just had a

31:29

look that within day where are the cast great interest in

31:31

like macaca is good for thing about songs with

31:33

the not knowing it and now as

31:35

a healthy yet , have their

31:37

i always do yo yo yo that you know we

31:39

should do at a time

31:42

learn piano for they allow rebel guitar for nineteen

31:44

years blame i wanna let me out the

31:46

am i honestly

31:48

wouldn't we get into lot but i of but find the fight

31:50

the bar he is so

31:52

folded into everything here is the flower

31:54

that in everyone at man i mean

31:57

you're looking at the story and than be a one page

31:59

have pablo escobar

32:00

the next stage got build let nearly goddamn

32:02

barry seal you are the for them forest gump

32:04

of cocaine only guy

32:07

gary my pride very sad is

32:09

firestorm of cocaine you

32:11

don't even have to say gee i'm in it he was in nantes

32:13

team at the friday i envy

32:15

you know cocaine i'm pretty certain to be

32:17

either run like for can call them out at

32:19

all remember in i remember being

32:21

in colombia is the old guy's

32:23

head by most dices i must

32:25

say you tell me you rune

32:27

little difference in both

32:31

times my momma said momma said fly anyway

32:34

they did i lived it one day i

32:36

just started fly

32:38

i didn't stop for former

32:40

his mama's imo

32:44

with a laugh was like street corner

32:46

cocaine and ever know which

32:48

gonna get a

32:53

bully as the forest is to shows up every

32:55

fucking were across like three

32:57

decades

32:59

in the last in the middle of the heaviest

33:01

pirates

33:02

the whole cocaine and

33:05

you know d a cia operation

33:07

like decrypt that they called enterprise which is

33:09

what one another title is absorbed by seal in

33:11

cia and price everywhere

33:13

i have center of all of a you would wonder then

33:16

after his death when talk but all of this stuff in detail

33:19

after his death how people can

33:21

dose

33:23

there is still doubt about him being the cia

33:25

operative there is still doubt about being

33:27

involved at such a level ah

33:29

it's almost downplayed like he's some kind

33:31

of country bumpkin who fell into

33:34

fries with mad success and was kinda teased

33:36

along by i do know one of the one

33:39

that the fuck and gleason brother what was down donald

33:41

live in where who who play the as

33:43

the age and that was kind of an amalgam have

33:45

lot of different people that will all name by name

33:48

here at a lot of from people that was

33:50

kind of not manipulate barry but

33:52

least facilitate them a aside

33:54

letter agencies went and

33:56

on leave and

33:58

played this character the

34:01

a representation of the the

34:04

system that was utilizing barry for its

34:06

own in that's right and them

34:09

a fellow tom cruise is barry seal was being

34:11

the little

34:13

bit been enjoying the ride and then when it all got

34:15

too much he was just like i got rid of i'm like

34:18

not known as real suffer said in that movie

34:20

which find a little bit upset

34:23

the none of the actual conspiratorial

34:26

pet like it was all very much like he buried

34:29

sell it like is like blow that

34:31

way that this guy and his could get bigger

34:33

and bigger and bigger is like and we got of all this

34:35

money and it's in suitcases what i gonna do barrier

34:37

in the garden i can't you know he can't

34:39

beat system and as always is allegory of like

34:42

yeah no matter how successfully get in there will be

34:44

to system gadget we'll get it you

34:46

know on the and and clean enough because

34:48

i think barry was part

34:50

of the system

34:51

the soon it didn't need any more like a windows

34:53

update it just for gun control

34:55

out and elise and in saw the new fucking

34:58

operators and attention oh

35:00

bugger

35:04

right

35:07

left getting to us barry

35:09

the you're older berryman seal

35:12

esquire this man

35:14

there he said the forest gump of cocaine that so

35:16

beautiful the looming on the phone

35:18

means for

35:21

your elderberry muncie or berries was friends

35:24

with an exceptional young man

35:25

with many many talents he came

35:27

from fairly conservative a button down

35:29

home environment we found been in the kkk

35:33

i mean can't you

35:35

know that he can't say fairer than that was

35:38

the time the fifties

35:40

marijana louisiana

35:42

immediately been on the board and county council

35:44

exactly your it's peer pressure lord

35:46

no right to that's a long time ago mean

35:49

know as as would mention of kids now

35:51

and you know i can't

35:53

our seats of filthy and we cycle

35:55

and vanished and all that like they must have just really good

35:58

laundry detergent back then you would

36:00

wonder i guess it's some nuclear shit like some

36:02

some it

36:04

bleach it with some serious stuff dont

36:06

even cleanliness was the thing think was just

36:08

the hiding of the identity like in dublin

36:10

everyones got really what runners in town you like

36:12

had he keep clan ,

36:15

think as well now with going to

36:17

were only to sentences internet ultimately already

36:19

a on tangent so so

36:21

, dossier

36:23

the sociological remember

36:25

it links the

36:26

in colleges are like that the sociological

36:29

am differences across the years

36:32

between like and things that super clean

36:35

are things that are deemed to be

36:37

a rich family

36:39

are rich feeling and then like poverty feeling

36:42

the like people

36:44

who tend to not be very

36:46

wealthy often dress in more

36:49

expensive regalia try to keep of saw

36:51

a you have lads who i'm going pot to piss and

36:54

the have no the gold chains and super super white

36:56

runners it almost seems like a social

36:58

degradation for someone to dirty runners as

37:00

it sacrifice some as that are telling

37:03

ya bro my runners like he keep his or

37:05

his it's because of two hundred dollars

37:07

whatever they're like if

37:08

you're right which is still win money

37:10

on them and anacondas billionaire just

37:12

wears like black t shirt and like black khakis

37:15

and sandals the arab a

37:17

polo neck and doesn't give fuck just

37:19

like genes that he shirts they don't get the don't care

37:21

what they look like

37:23

because it's not like an outward display of

37:25

wealth whereas like the show he off he

37:27

kind stuff then if you haggle my to

37:29

like victorian times

37:31

the be wise to be pale they

37:34

would like dob themselves and others powder

37:36

all stuff under faces in order to make

37:39

it look like their skin was waiter because

37:41

the how brown skin was deemed to be poverty

37:43

issue or poverty adjacent

37:46

older at work in the field as or i work and feels

37:48

the sun is banned telling us gain your become and

37:50

hand if you're always it meant that you

37:52

didn't have to do any work so maybe the white runners

37:54

means that you were like rich

37:56

enough to own their owners but it didn't have

37:59

you had them you when didn't have to work the

38:01

maybe were like it was a display well that

38:04

white runners because

38:06

omega money off goes on that like for can walk

38:08

in and and i'll do my job like he will respect

38:11

me enough not to step away runners like it's a

38:13

display of

38:15

weldon social hierarchies like that yes

38:17

his own really obvious observation is that certain

38:20

know the have that right could be buying on what

38:22

i want to know the various he'll die or

38:24

anybody the kkk the

38:26

bulletin it think enjoying don't

38:28

i don't know but does not look for by

38:31

any means what is it is it like any

38:33

other father with it's eight inches

38:35

to the family that you know as wave internet remember

38:37

susan komen rent more nice it

38:39

is a is can't you know tomorrow clan nice

38:41

clan mess the i'm dropping out every

38:43

time every time come on account

38:45

the weekend got here

38:50

yeah i think i think it was like sources it

38:52

look we we we we did whole episode on kkk

38:55

and the stuff came in waves aside

38:57

and in the eighteen sixties i had resurgence in

38:59

nineteen twenties and that resurgence in the nineteen

39:01

fifties tard waved kkk the

39:03

nineteen twenties the world pulled in by a the said

39:06

propaganda movie pocket

39:09

the name and

39:11

that

39:11

of a part a nations a sudden with dude

39:13

black dublin's gonna run were loaded was like

39:16

opener rap and my yeah was like all

39:18

blackouts careful know because the were gotten

39:20

their autonomy to were getting clean when it's independence

39:22

and the fifties or to survive on my god every

39:25

time was a reminder that have a nice and birth

39:27

of nation and then american made

39:29

is the most recent movie doesn't

39:31

ah birth of an asian american made

39:33

it might be my because the clinton

39:35

that that that all of that i'm

39:38

sad the king's home from a long line of course

39:41

it , a commodity that i've

39:43

been saw i've been

39:45

of kkk activity agatha missouri

39:48

alabama louisiana like all of those kinda

39:51

the next day it goes both that's all kkk

39:54

heavy

39:56

what it all came at a time when

39:58

and the the for black

40:00

people were on the rise there was like the

40:02

counter right

40:04

this what they're saying today like on that user

40:06

back and barbara bar because people over the

40:08

rights as like that everything is everything

40:10

else can we the

40:13

haven't barry's that be a kkk

40:15

man

40:16

meant that he was probably nobody wants

40:18

be like your parents he was probably growing up in

40:20

a very conservative household where

40:24

the white community very homogenous

40:27

the upbringing which as

40:29

we find out later on probably propelled

40:31

barry into the

40:33

like trauma related adult

40:35

behaviors risk seeking behavior

40:38

ordering i call

40:41

is and drug abuse like

40:44

risky situation seeking

40:46

risky situation stuff like that we we've all

40:48

been there by still me we look for risk

40:51

because it's like oh i bet it is a

40:53

bitter rebellion and you even

40:55

pushing back against studies like you know

40:58

very although the as

41:00

his honor the be back here

41:02

before midnight bar

41:04

tell you we go and i'm you go get woman like

41:06

this kinda stuff know that he what he would it

41:09

has dollars

41:10

mean think the kkk your client you're not going

41:12

be easy going now

41:14

europe about that yet we get us some chips

41:16

on his shoulder way didn't even egypt's

41:19

the kid off or just look around and see her

41:21

shoulder yes yes really bad perform

41:24

not not for nothing well like you know although

41:26

tom cruise had already been in a movie called this

41:28

has probably the only reason when the didn't use risky

41:30

business of america

41:32

, much better title or but as i got

41:35

a risky business have already been in a cocktail

41:37

of drugs as a a

41:39

on a nice it impossible at the first for

41:42

them or if

41:44

his average the possible my third

41:46

wicket the colombian his answer america

41:50

where are these drugs time while there are

41:52

, way i don't don't

41:55

know about your yeah

41:58

this excited to and everything and everything can think of it

42:00

oblivion or like live live

42:02

day or piece of like online already

42:04

read it yet as i am

42:07

saying , first couple minutes of the film they already

42:09

portrayed barriers a seeker a was like driving

42:11

t w airplanes plants that

42:13

driving fly in and in or like like

42:16

bar and like they really had a gun or a lonesome

42:18

but really his life for so conservative

42:20

that he was die in forbid a strange

42:22

right he was the oldest three kids

42:25

and he had and responsibility

42:27

in the family he was sent

42:29

to work quite early he did

42:31

really well in school is super smart and

42:34

was even reported by some that

42:36

he had a photographic memory

42:38

that he was able to actually read

42:41

upside down so he would go into

42:43

meetings and stuff in school and these

42:45

every just of upside down with and

42:47

look down at the desk when some thought into later

42:49

on in meetings he was ever see like manifests

42:52

when was gone should put like a different

42:54

offices for piracy like what planes

42:56

flying aware that the serial numbers of

42:58

flights planes times all the stuff

43:00

that the just like plan

43:04

there go off and we have all that shit said he remembered

43:06

he never had the right i him down

43:09

john gottman as like a run the numbers mean

43:11

that wind up and down right a

43:14

father had it all in the kiln all the heads

43:16

never had twitch a pen to paper knew

43:19

exactly where money was all the stuff

43:21

that fantastically smart man the

43:24

on barry love the idea of becoming pilot

43:27

i don't know but you guys the border

43:29

pilot a pilbara

43:32

pilot

43:32

they're

43:35

smart man and they do it for fun

43:37

i don't know anybody that

43:39

like

43:40

personally or or anecdotally i

43:42

don't know anybody who's like jaegers might not be pilot's

43:44

license final one day and easy super

43:47

smart my haven't told

43:49

him twenty years but like he was you're

43:51

in college was like i can called weekend the

43:53

plane

43:55

flying got got clan mean when

43:57

they get was it was it was the the flame

43:59

that he the before he got his license

44:02

lot of films lot scientists are

44:04

my thoughts on march showing

44:07

navigation so quick calculation

44:09

my calculations all it's kind of trigonometry

44:11

and on the fence is soccer melts wearing a or

44:13

ones that are you on issues i couldn't

44:16

be bothered with me hall whether they're just be that yeah just

44:18

sit the passer see broke my me a very advanced

44:20

and on flame is on we am in similar to the

44:22

an aside at my uncle rich

44:25

run out a gave john travolta of

44:27

the flying lessons to i am

44:29

with apologies to fly the

44:34

no i would imagine a review of

44:36

flies in those times new

44:38

at least of barry seal because as

44:40

would go on through this

44:42

the network was big is network was he'll

44:44

message my uncle richie rich in the northeast

44:47

of really good egos you get

44:49

and australia and woodbury in

44:51

arkansas as well they claim would

44:53

probably be like

44:55

even for a path i mean i'd been a political

44:58

i'm going dinner like so it's such a as

45:00

spread out area that if you to

45:02

get from this and to this time that

45:04

to play for four hour long been a little

45:06

play my yeah my dad was

45:08

release when engine seconds if

45:10

not domain of get up there like so he'd

45:12

have to fly over his the parts that he did

45:14

from perth the kalgoorlie and and outcome

45:16

of them sometimes his before say it applies of the

45:18

two seats right so meme brother would go

45:20

up the monotony we are areas i'm a database

45:22

from the plug on yeah my neither well those parts

45:26

the door and then they just land anyway exhibiting

45:28

flat right as as a year

45:30

and oil is like an airport

45:32

so everything so they have and they fly

45:35

know the big road they'll have planes a guy ran

45:38

from his mistakes so much sure but i fly over

45:40

looked down and eight they they have marking

45:42

so they time from a

45:44

car or any vehicle going from this point

45:46

to that point it was quicker than his time

45:49

the dating and knight rider down

45:51

to some tag on cops this goes flat

45:54

this

45:55

is flat out down in alabama so

45:57

they even use why the yeah you're right

45:59

like like every

46:01

second house out the law of flying losses

46:03

little a zoom and ran an airplane a mean that

46:05

was you said earlier go to like what really kind jumped

46:07

out

46:08

the new readers the way they talk about

46:10

air traffic like we'd talk about

46:12

get nervous yeah that food and that

46:14

i got it all it's don't even drive car i can

46:16

thrive guy like i don't have drive on

46:19

that i probably should learn and the live

46:21

the country

46:22

they get in my mind common in it was like oh he's the

46:24

biggest smuggler of frozen as i was he get

46:26

past dogs the air perfect set it

46:29

up for later it's like to virus could be that

46:31

because i don't have any good millipede as far

46:33

as as we get it's it's leary like thrown in the

46:35

back of lauren am going to flight and in nicaragua

46:37

i am and flight and i love your other posts

46:39

are endless different mean i don't understand like

46:43

that doesn't really you don't really have to understand that to

46:45

get the sense of the episode or whenever i wasn't

46:47

looking into it but like having a license

46:49

to fly the weather the legalities

46:52

of in in and out of our

46:54

country if you own your own plane like

46:57

i just went over to the you care to do some laser

46:59

was in the illegal true the whole

47:01

they partaking in the i got keys the artist

47:03

and all kinds of the not vaccinated

47:06

i was going to shit and going over

47:08

could write one or two gigs become biker

47:10

like a nurse couple of days

47:12

like you know and the pcr testifying

47:15

book new flights the stuff like that on

47:18

the way home i would manchester airport

47:20

not one person checked my passport and subordinate

47:23

final boarding pass and

47:25

could gone have

47:26

cute up and got under any for company

47:28

assembly line is no joke that

47:30

was all american flights only those all european

47:32

internet internet place that

47:35

like so lax and little

47:38

i wonder is

47:39

the commercial airline

47:42

smuggling business doing much better now

47:44

that colvin is going on like no one suspected anybody

47:46

staff is an all time low yeah like it

47:48

just seems so weird and that's what think when i'm thinking

47:50

like smuggling drugs right like it's

47:52

like some content has a fucking lord

47:55

of walnuts and inside walnuts is the bags

47:57

heroin or whatever like i'm just

47:59

important

48:00

the open from the my friends

48:02

a lot of beloved of on the

48:04

crack more been like for can not into declares

48:06

like that area home and or

48:09

and partner by myself i had no feet

48:11

a for family dinner by five hundred i'll see

48:13

some from the airport and need to run of

48:15

it's and they'll say live in about come on my

48:17

eyes why must suck and why more than two

48:19

hundred grams here darling now

48:21

my to my feet are lobbying for my country

48:24

like i know here you go to the zarganar

48:27

like where's all the no worries no drama and i have

48:29

the right animal that lawyer for am i that's

48:31

got god and then we're going put a delicious

48:33

delicious noodles and probably eight looking

48:35

on it's one pm

48:37

tv amaze me looking quite suspicious

48:40

or sorry might come over here would

48:42

do top i i didn't

48:44

like new by way you find exactly the opposite

48:46

of and are spoken like like a litter

48:48

of puppies as ,

48:50

as a bother me i didn't have to look like

48:52

a fork and bananas when

48:54

you see sure like that which like that again probably

48:57

propaganda that palmer into

48:59

people like you'll never get past the airport security

49:02

eleven you're just smart own even try

49:04

here's all the way of the people who tried to that nineteen

49:06

seasons of people try and and will always

49:08

get yeah he was there's like feather on

49:11

that fucking dealer inside of a a

49:13

pillow that not ratified you'd never

49:16

get it into australia new zealand his early furthermore

49:19

this organic material right we'll have to digress

49:22

help a lot of how do you have eyes

49:24

on the to a gym right yeah

49:26

it's funny that whole time like at

49:28

very end as just go above the way if you hire

49:30

private plane you have to go to any that yeah i

49:33

forgot about again on and as often

49:36

applies when have your own for can fly if

49:38

your view on blueberry seals over here the fuck

49:40

and just east of cocaine my seen it was sitting

49:42

at the end it's all the way okay

49:44

other okay other berry in it for them during

49:46

their columbia income by delivery

49:49

a lot of them from the opiates bananas

49:51

know him even one gateway get at a

49:53

turkey would black tar heroin strapped to

49:55

his body and like spasms white because it shows

49:57

on his clothes and buried and have

50:00

they are you gonna he got room for ten

50:02

more kilos you're in for hundred market

50:03

i fear yeah more less

50:05

yet were right there buffalo you have the past as he's

50:07

playing tell him get it wrong or forget is one of

50:09

heart of material like i couldn't

50:12

understand how that's possible

50:14

and then the same time as soon i figured those

50:16

are restore the weather's like i have for

50:18

the obvious there's

50:20

so many people do anything about like human

50:22

trafficking is massive problem

50:24

the course of the massive problem the

50:26

references just wrap wrap up kids brooklyn

50:29

clingfilm they give me oxygen

50:31

tank

50:32

for can put him a box and fail at sea

50:34

one party for a looper go back to

50:36

the gates of lame wherever they want

50:38

and no one's gonna be taken out and like it just

50:40

feels the new orders lad common

50:42

in an independent spot checking the

50:44

airports are they use the sixty seventies and

50:46

eighties this is like the wild

50:48

west regulations were putting yes

50:51

now i wonder would be still lacks

50:53

or is there still operations going on

50:56

the be able to get chosen as the country they

50:58

will cocaine overdose

51:00

the owner and saw here are getting

51:02

very positive if if if if if if people to

51:04

a toy here

51:05

people are very popular nashville and you know a

51:07

lot of or universities or exists is

51:09

people boy

51:11

una market demands to yet to

51:13

look like if if if if cocaine wasn't any good

51:16

it'd

51:16

be no need for you know if those drugs

51:19

and the weapons and stuff that in if was that

51:21

that'd be no demand yeah so it'd be it'd

51:23

it'd be still flying to a commercial

51:25

airline that's what we're saying that the relevant that louis

51:27

ck be the most of the the fucking

51:30

children like the there's a demand their

51:32

forests of the business keeps on going like that you

51:34

might want to be ryan's modern one elaborate

51:36

when you're talking , before the monkey

51:38

shoot shoot are talking about louisville

51:40

louis ck areas of

51:43

agreement the louisiana comedy based were really

51:45

lets you know contact between falls but yeah

51:48

they know the risks like

51:50

so and to do it anyway cocaine

51:52

you're going to jail forever like you're

51:54

forever if you're caught with that much unless

51:56

you're barry seal right so young

51:58

barry he loved the idea of

52:00

the pilot super smart dude you soccer switched

52:02

on in you want crack was he got his pilot's

52:04

license at fifteen that we don't know about flying

52:06

around and

52:08

you know single engine planes in australia

52:10

got gonna say might ah

52:13

, you fly you know what the descendants

52:15

had to do and i'm electric scooters you

52:17

have your little plants am which

52:20

he got when got it still in high school so obviously

52:22

he was a nice a very determined

52:24

at a you know fourth race and

52:26

dedicated young lad

52:27

get fifteen will get a pilot's license or

52:29

fifteen was still smoking spunk

52:32

and into socks and vulcan train take you

52:34

know that you glimpse of a teddy at lunchtime

52:36

and the

52:38

we'll sneak in spoken i have anything

52:40

i got forklift less

52:42

oh wow

52:45

, i know i'm a couple years behind bars

52:47

here where the he could fly drugs with a good

52:49

forklift amount of five point

52:51

zero zero know somebody around

52:53

hundred kilos of cocaine by yourself or adult

52:56

thinks thinks movie

52:58

at best for best last

53:00

couple of very good heavy lifter

53:02

to dairy reprise bonuses and

53:04

with kids are kids tv

53:07

him on a medium motors carried

53:12

mccraw fire with her and ran

53:14

his of ran eye on earth as good

53:16

an of is the it's a weird thing

53:18

though that thousand a weird and i

53:20

was an entrepreneur young men in the iowa's

53:22

of appointment soccer brothers

53:24

you're doing a little busy play music might

53:26

want to do and i like book but

53:29

to go get a pilot places maybe it's just in

53:31

louisiana that's what it it is today i

53:33

was of hours of our on our way i still

53:35

can't a lot has to have fathomable assisting he

53:37

had his them his soon pilots license

53:40

and he was fascinated was with fly

53:42

and bury would love hang around hang baton rouge downtown

53:44

airports i talked to pilots

53:46

and train the optimum flowing into him with a friend friendly

53:48

fly boy who was willing to take them

53:50

into the passenger seat and give them a going to stick help

53:53

at sixteen he got qualified for his

53:55

commercial pilot's license and he was able

53:57

to then fly helicopters so it's sixteen

54:00

was like you know he couldn't buy during

54:02

that could play amount of work and helicopter gonna

54:05

do the awful ah i'm gonna have

54:07

to get skins to like

54:09

, the your be licensed the you can drive car

54:11

and model but yeah help is federal

54:14

hello it doesn't say that it could drive guy

54:16

is that just landed shopper in the drive cinema

54:19

cinema not that that assessment you're gonna be

54:21

as efficient as it is it is just

54:23

services hover above the film know

54:25

and you know you job

54:28

yes absolutely hundred degree movie

54:30

doesn't regret assists i'll

54:33

where i condemn free most condemn to to

54:38

to or of vog boxes out of

54:40

necessity for very

54:42

slight instructor from those days at eg

54:44

deferred said that barry was wild

54:47

and didn't have enough sense to be afraid while

54:49

getting to be said about zone dumb didn't have

54:51

enough sense to be afraid so he was torn

54:53

dumb torn them well as i

54:55

don't have it was dominating it was like was

54:58

just wild clinton who had no fear

55:00

i guess mean is that from home life

55:03

by know not know how his father was

55:06

within the clan gordo i know but whenever

55:09

your family would you go on that doesn't necessarily

55:12

mean that was mean bad person know too

55:14

well

55:15

two white people obviously yeah what it what

55:17

like like maybe he was a loving father

55:20

who was an emotionally available but just

55:22

used like the were seats and and says heritage

55:24

on and said when borrowing with the lads interstate

55:26

every for our exactly mean like

55:28

not the fund raiser

55:30

roof right well

55:33

let's just say that was e bay isn't

55:35

that just because it was the clan those two things music's

55:37

list for a very fine people on both sides

55:39

god i'm not saying that phone

55:41

santa what would like with

55:43

the be them the the it was emotionally

55:45

abused oh is this thing

55:47

where we're trying to figure out why buried in things

55:49

he did he just americans

55:51

it is like risk i mean hey you know what i

55:53

know plenty about years with no clan

55:56

affiliations yet lovely lovely home

55:58

life grandparents some some the

56:00

was just got that while i feel

56:02

as though i had it when i was younger but

56:04

at same time as a little bit sudden stop me from

56:06

as an internationally traffic and fourteen nicer

56:09

little base the

56:11

offered said barry how that he was while

56:13

he also said he that one of em

56:16

that my gear he was descended from

56:18

as a seagull

56:20

that he was so comfortable in sky he must have

56:22

been a seagull must have been one of

56:24

his ancestors and i say goal is white

56:28

out our clan mellow blackbirds as

56:30

blackbirds particular it's am

56:32

for yatra he didn't have this sense be afraid

56:35

said stuff or it's he said barry was talkative

56:37

and seen the seen the had something to prove

56:39

maybe to compensate for his height because

56:41

was only five foot eight

56:43

within movie got right yes a

56:47

, thompson bomber apple boxes the whole

56:49

time and his act when other people say doesn't

56:51

feel dumb in usa i mean

56:54

i know i'm fast normal the cameras are gonna make

56:56

me on fast this is like emily times

56:58

by tom cruise been smallest five year like five

57:00

years

57:01

yeah but you're here as another tree on top this is

57:03

true too but like others in the way people to go on

57:05

and it's where tom cruise for nine

57:08

man you want can't get over that there's lot

57:10

of folk an amd instagram adds little

57:12

ticked together so fucked up there like hey

57:14

you five foot eleven and all birds on

57:16

tinder will focus is still have six foot on your

57:18

profile put these lists in your shoes

57:20

and be able say that your six foot on

57:22

the is real is really really is a girl going

57:25

say naughty if you're like one inch awful

57:27

pick that the front of your high

57:29

profile tent and let anything and i'm

57:31

still here there's also

57:33

let you see they as far as what i

57:35

can see and dating profile as you can

57:37

still you can still discriminate and it's okay

57:40

and hi and

57:41

ginger the two things that they'll

57:43

be like now i'm not sure of oman

57:45

swords into the but if you say i'm like an athletics

57:48

roof snuff alness

57:50

now though

57:52

it's the game is barry's

57:55

prerogative something to prove

57:57

maybe this is thing of likely love me daddy plea

57:59

love me probably maybe was deal

58:01

distant kind of of a father

58:03

the a game plan for your name dunno

58:05

i dunno the map okay barry had sky sign

58:07

business at seventeen imagine skywriting

58:09

and then the

58:10

you fly a plane have like a a

58:13

big ribbon where it's like sale at kohl's

58:15

would fit you know this and in a lot to marry me

58:17

susan yes exactly are

58:20

, the clintons the heads

58:22

of international of peter

58:24

violent or leave courthouse hogan live without

58:26

very long at the longer but but will

58:28

will deliver colleagues deliver sounds

58:32

a metastasis vs elio

58:35

electronics around house swap it for car

58:38

ah yes go sign business at seventeen

58:40

says megan the to known that the dog

58:43

and a fly a the and

58:45

recreationally fly helicopters all

58:48

around atone for gas and was

58:50

reported fly a helicopter solo

58:53

over

58:53

a l a few louisiana viewers to the

58:56

out football matches that they had

58:58

to and baseball matter that they had to actually like stop

59:00

the games

59:01

barry was like both in their electricity

59:04

, do this or that that

59:06

other visited with that you could borrow the balls

59:08

yet much where have you want to guard but he was gonna

59:10

like an air an residency

59:12

like was going on a berry like ah

59:15

assembly you play the helicopter riffle how much

59:17

i wanted the commentary on this year ago

59:19

israel the ball to see through that i'd

59:21

love to old why are owed where is green

59:23

and only and voted barry seal

59:26

is sort seal an assassin

59:29

to say the influence did the be

59:31

kicks move kick in it's like it's

59:33

good if goods to deter if doesn't

59:36

blow up the utter

59:38

condensate of who can rig the game right such

59:40

as a dean the college day i don't know

59:44

enough and of hamblin have missed

59:47

the for early blues only john belushi

59:49

flown to have go to come up with

59:53

the one i do fifty years the borrowed

59:55

plan from a local university chemistry

59:57

professor then crashes

1:00:00

promptly in a field the ,

1:00:02

reported engine trouble as the cause but

1:00:04

offered said barry was showing off and

1:00:06

he caught the engine mid slightly guilty when you're

1:00:08

driving country rosie turn off the lights in a go

1:00:11

at it and am gonna get he was doing that but

1:00:13

like hundreds of feet the sky when an airplane

1:00:16

with his friends and as and trying to show off right

1:00:18

so he called it off and was doing the oh

1:00:22

like the bed

1:00:23

oh word class in her have

1:00:25

, sense of moral

1:00:28

and tried to stay to the begin that wouldn't start that

1:00:31

was able to like slaughter down

1:00:33

then he at roughly a land

1:00:35

of this in field he then took off again

1:00:37

i prefer in the engines but what

1:00:39

had done in the air had fox the engine

1:00:42

and he took off again he got about a hundred fifty

1:00:45

feet the air and the engine seized

1:00:47

cut out again but wasn't high enough

1:00:49

be able to get the floor to be had from before

1:00:52

and he crashed at roughly and soybean

1:00:54

fields where the plane was absolutely

1:00:56

totals and that's where i know send from

1:00:59

be squashed allow up rape of difference this the

1:01:01

this barry

1:01:04

had to have his jaw wired shows for

1:01:06

over month after this accident and had

1:01:08

five permanent false teeth install

1:01:10

the these head because was such bad crash

1:01:13

the plane got totalled he barely survive

1:01:15

like is fucked up heads my stop right

1:01:17

and inmates or mates were all or underground

1:01:20

looking on the be like oliver barry do anything

1:01:22

right

1:01:23

though his father then sued the

1:01:25

professor for over hundred thousand dollars

1:01:28

because barry with minor and a professor shouldn't

1:01:30

have given them the plan and first place

1:01:32

and wanted compensation for the that the

1:01:34

last season broken bones

1:01:36

the barry also up the ante on this claim

1:01:38

for a loss reputation

1:01:40

the navy is or an unfavorable

1:01:43

publicity in his community

1:01:45

of aviators right the

1:01:47

who couldn't go through that because serving the

1:01:50

seal family lawyer at doubted

1:01:52

witness testimony when wrestling what happened one

1:01:54

actually happen and they had the on the gods wheelbarrows

1:01:56

flights and there's a he won't

1:01:58

fly no more and

1:02:00

it landed into golf wiggins land again

1:02:02

and he won't fly the morning christ

1:02:04

the

1:02:05

with me like was something wrong with the engine that was

1:02:07

engine trouble with the plans for the also

1:02:09

claimed that somebody had fielded

1:02:11

up the day before with non aviation fuel

1:02:13

to that i mean of the bad every day

1:02:15

but that's way that that's a good we

1:02:17

are useless because it was yet

1:02:20

who was a a full of gas

1:02:22

be in take an f the engine season

1:02:24

has a and lawyers like really

1:02:26

like yeah ah so

1:02:28

you there was a sealed our there but

1:02:31

ah the heard

1:02:33

yeah we can't go to court the ship my your fucking

1:02:35

your lunatic like so got thrown out

1:02:38

would imagine like the audacity

1:02:40

the hubris the focus though

1:02:43

the balls of the seal family berries

1:02:45

he was gone

1:02:46

the crash plant near limitless months

1:02:48

later luggage the hits says

1:02:50

like is a lot of on go routes for the

1:02:52

seat of your heads and own can see your face the

1:02:55

have where you can make communism for i

1:02:57

set myself face buried him on

1:02:59

the stairmaster question is

1:03:01

, happened happened

1:03:04

an awesome an mr murphy

1:03:06

some the university that's what

1:03:09

the question is how we the mess and

1:03:11

we you mess and bury snow was a muffin

1:03:13

somebody put the room fuel in a quiz like

1:03:15

worth of from shit the the fuck and eighty seventeen

1:03:18

year olds gonna tell andrea i get out trouble a

1:03:20

crash and of won't leave the up and

1:03:22

a dialect took it all the way it know maybe

1:03:24

also maybe the dow was

1:03:26

you know what of khan has money

1:03:28

for come from

1:03:30

we threw him yet i can see above a the

1:03:32

we have to play for the plane or he exactly

1:03:34

which way is gonna be so that

1:03:36

adds up still bamboozle that those

1:03:39

sorry had a relationship with his university

1:03:41

professor to the point where the a professor was just

1:03:43

like our the plane that yeah gone

1:03:45

just bring back with these linux

1:03:47

the

1:03:48

get a real dog bread marty mcfly relationship

1:03:50

know as as they get a more and of

1:03:52

you want does it even level this is the level

1:03:54

of either respect and

1:03:57

consideration

1:04:01

that barry seal had because of his expertise

1:04:03

because of his intelligence says of his charm

1:04:06

and because of character people

1:04:08

have renown people of respect

1:04:10

the community had respect for him

1:04:13

the enough to be able to like and his

1:04:15

reputation as an aviator was those

1:04:18

the lead want to bury plane that seemingly

1:04:20

iguana one let have a few needs is air

1:04:22

time he unless the little folk of later

1:04:25

of know again in eighteen again maybe if

1:04:27

like australia where everyone has blander flying from

1:04:29

in

1:04:30

it from for about the mail get home

1:04:32

to them by comes by across it was like a broad

1:04:34

you didn't tell me to lean on blind spot he says

1:04:36

he has a man

1:04:39

, about

1:04:42

it for like this for like thing like like

1:04:44

bit and he was all respective or think that

1:04:46

carries on into his into his later life like to

1:04:48

eat from a supremely like and seventeen

1:04:51

the

1:04:51

and seventeen most logical contaminants

1:04:53

awesome trying to see related

1:04:55

this has slain playing the lines hundreds of

1:04:57

thousands of dollars worth equipment is a potent

1:04:59

up the air and not for not and god

1:05:02

not getting punished for as miss given them

1:05:04

wrong doings sylvia like

1:05:06

blank check like this is the only

1:05:08

, firing a pattern later was going

1:05:10

fall very comfortably into it's it's

1:05:12

it's it's just that little for later on since

1:05:14

the kind of as a scumbag round of

1:05:16

a lawyer up to find him by him that grew

1:05:19

up with so the kid case against that the

1:05:21

professor was shown at ninety sixty no sixty don't i

1:05:23

couldn't find out about what president

1:05:25

of the countersuit bush sure

1:05:27

he got his money for play and and

1:05:30

the game very very well respected

1:05:32

from a very young age so he enlisted

1:05:34

in the louisiana national guard august nineteen

1:05:36

sixty one the the he

1:05:38

he signed up for six years

1:05:41

and only the first six months of which

1:05:43

he served in active duty

1:05:46

we come to this later on

1:05:49

this is period of time is actually the military

1:05:52

but qualifies the us army airborne school

1:05:55

never completed special forces training

1:05:57

officially and then went on the server

1:05:59

remaining five and half there's an engineer battalion

1:06:01

where he was a phone operator now

1:06:04

operator or just

1:06:06

like this how can i direct your call

1:06:09

this is call plot hole please call or

1:06:11

like this is the

1:06:13

dory this is the cover story i believe

1:06:17

and from what i've researched i believe that he's like how

1:06:20

can we make it so that

1:06:22

we can forge were

1:06:24

barry seal gonna be at all time

1:06:27

the an awful lot of on the just like not

1:06:29

let him it's

1:06:31

been the only one answered the phone the

1:06:34

say hello this is barry see if they didn't

1:06:36

have actually be buried they could we

1:06:38

want have cover story for lad

1:06:40

we can haven't been out the bows and answer

1:06:42

he somewhere else so we have the full can hold

1:06:45

him in a put him in an officer said that that's

1:06:47

where he's gone beyond the focus on the of his on

1:06:49

the paycheck he was here every day everyday

1:06:51

sign inside out all the stuff well

1:06:54

the tides and on the sun and the wider eleven

1:06:56

here are the ones boy like spoiler

1:06:58

alerts put like barry was off

1:07:00

to another city ordinances and i

1:07:03

mean like not for nothingness like okay we got

1:07:05

this guy signed up for us isn't he isn't

1:07:07

pylas he can trim the whiskers

1:07:09

off your head by playing over his antony

1:07:11

can do what we got from my includes

1:07:14

animal for their focus on phone exchanger

1:07:16

there are so i'm little bit

1:07:18

till it's only for a genius the photographic

1:07:20

memory who's well respected by his elders

1:07:22

and his peers at best pile and snowden

1:07:25

height of the other behind phone it doesn't

1:07:27

make no goddamn sense though

1:07:30

yeah

1:07:31

did they let us at story is under speculation

1:07:34

that he was a iphone jockey because some

1:07:36

people say and found on the internet corroborative

1:07:38

evidence that barry did affect complete his greenbrier

1:07:40

training and his unit before

1:07:42

special forces reorganizing and

1:07:44

eighty seventy one that the military

1:07:47

the us government reorganize clock the qualifications

1:07:50

and calibration someone special forces was

1:07:52

the barry trained

1:07:55

under what was part of the greenbrier program as

1:07:57

louisiana national guardsmen so

1:07:59

technically was trained as a greenbrier and could

1:08:01

have held the green beret

1:08:04

monitor monica

1:08:06

lewinsky he would have had to

1:08:08

complete certain programs to become an active

1:08:10

greenbrier to serve in field but

1:08:12

by all accounts he was trained

1:08:14

to the highest level

1:08:16

and the louisiana national guard and

1:08:18

us army airborne

1:08:20

the knowing that he would wanted all at trial he

1:08:22

wouldn't wanna know what will i think was super smart

1:08:24

and he was able to no

1:08:27

to parse all that information he was

1:08:29

face the time was young he was

1:08:32

obviously driven into time and because he had his flight

1:08:34

pilot's license known as the love simon

1:08:38

donkey and all that stuff so this is like this

1:08:40

is fucking green

1:08:42

for catholic he fuck a lotta shit though

1:08:46

he was rumored this time who

1:08:49

actually served said the been on phones actually

1:08:51

served in vietnam

1:08:54

under secret flight program couldn't

1:08:57

find the pacific information

1:09:00

under operation on

1:09:03

door an operation the

1:09:05

old and either which

1:09:08

i will do to my like i said for sailing mission

1:09:10

see her yes operation golden

1:09:12

eagles abrasion would pigeons had

1:09:14

not been as good as old as nato operation

1:09:17

what better way to try to stage

1:09:19

a coup

1:09:20

hey i

1:09:23

, point it's but but

1:09:26

he , awards this time in the military

1:09:28

between ninety sixty one and nineteen sixty seven included

1:09:31

expert rifle badge

1:09:33

expert carbine badge and parachute his

1:09:35

bags which is like an old scout

1:09:37

for guns it's by scuds was

1:09:39

in my eyes rights but it seems

1:09:41

like the perfect cover for a

1:09:43

lad who would be slain and and that they will have a

1:09:45

lead a plane in and out of vietnam

1:09:47

plane in and out of and

1:09:49

south america airplane than that of the

1:09:52

areas where one there and go in

1:09:54

more time

1:09:56

but the us where embroiled said stays

1:09:58

in novel other shenanigans the whole job was

1:10:00

going on there so like

1:10:03

why wouldn't get best play that began to fly

1:10:05

low and slow over a bunch of for could forest

1:10:07

and through hilly areas that's very difficult

1:10:09

traverse in an airplane

1:10:11

like why would get best man for the job if he

1:10:13

if he was going to find if he was in fact

1:10:16

just on the phones that whole time

1:10:18

i was very per user barry seal idea

1:10:21

i feel so his honor utilization of utilization

1:10:23

skill that the two years after sign

1:10:25

of the army by rejoins t w

1:10:28

way as flight engineer and was quickly from

1:10:30

was first officer and then to captain

1:10:32

they can the youngest captain and t w is

1:10:34

history the remainder youngest command

1:10:36

pilot and boeing seven or seven sleep barry

1:10:40

soccer for adventure and for some time working

1:10:42

on t w a felt the

1:10:43

poll to make a few dockets

1:10:45

on the sides

1:10:47

the was arrested for the first time as

1:10:49

we say on july first nineteen seventies use this

1:10:51

is the part first public

1:10:53

the rest of barry for a

1:10:55

for doing smugly stuff as

1:10:58

over top mid summer nineteen seventy two along with seven

1:11:00

others the were in

1:11:02

the employ of t w to

1:11:04

smuggle explosives out of the united

1:11:07

states

1:11:08

the play the field was slain had fourteen

1:11:10

thousand pounds of explosives honest

1:11:12

though we're destined for cuba through and de castro

1:11:15

forces in mexico

1:11:17

now who's to say where on why barry

1:11:19

had lot of explosives on plane like that the

1:11:21

does smell or something that the cia with a

1:11:23

high going on

1:11:24

in the

1:11:27

mid to late seventies trying to get

1:11:29

rid of castro the

1:11:31

cold war was other tight am

1:11:35

very recently only had bay of pigs the

1:11:37

the cuban missile crisis

1:11:40

and the looming threat communism

1:11:42

as well as

1:11:43

and almost era irreversible

1:11:46

economic downturns the abolition

1:11:48

of their woods agreement

1:11:51

and the removal of the u s dollar

1:11:53

from the gold standard like all

1:11:55

is nixon escalate airfare

1:11:58

glenn the war in vietnam turner police action

1:12:00

to have all at war like that

1:12:02

full grown more millions

1:12:05

or billions of dollars the and invested

1:12:07

in companies like bell

1:12:09

helicopters and stuff like that where are all the stocks

1:12:11

is woven the monuments loomed goldwyn

1:12:14

down on america became

1:12:16

america like of a war industry nation

1:12:19

this time the course

1:12:22

don't live like barry going be

1:12:25

usually the sounds like something the see

1:12:27

a will be like into

1:12:28

time explosives into toot with somehow like

1:12:31

how you just like your working as come a

1:12:33

commercial pilot and then all of sudden like

1:12:35

a where you goin my way

1:12:37

more dossier doesnt sound like

1:12:39

how can you be like tw as like at

1:12:41

welcome to tw way were flying

1:12:44

that a from baton rouge to

1:12:46

a austin texas weather outside

1:12:48

is thirteen degrees if you check under your seat you

1:12:50

find a some a semtex

1:12:52

a plastic explosives a

1:12:55

if you want to deploy that you just pull just

1:12:57

pull stream make sure you set up the explosives

1:12:59

for yourself first before you take care of

1:13:01

your children the

1:13:04

game capture is seventy

1:13:06

eight outdated a letter what

1:13:08

the fuck is going on from that yeah i'm flying

1:13:10

the closest to mexicans your own good idea

1:13:12

when you say like he got a bit of side hustle area

1:13:14

as a taste adventure he got site has

1:13:16

like a side hustle is not fourteen

1:13:19

thousand pounds see fourteen thousand

1:13:21

pounds sizes and a side hustle

1:13:23

is by and

1:13:24

fidget spinners for cents on which

1:13:26

dot com on selling them for to year old and them

1:13:28

are drop drop ship and plastic

1:13:30

is losses on amazon up a this

1:13:32

this is in the movie gerry into

1:13:35

movie the

1:13:37

says that it's cuban cigars

1:13:39

and that don't leave and was over was

1:13:41

i received

1:13:44

hey barry see you're smuggling cigars

1:13:46

these a roof a modified cigars and base

1:13:49

like the i

1:13:51

you and it's like all i've been smoking cigars

1:13:53

of my all my

1:13:55

the ronnie you know for dream

1:13:57

flight experience fly him sit

1:13:59

around the imam again with ah but if you miss like

1:14:02

the not about being in the army already

1:14:04

it was just like barry seal and all of a sudden he

1:14:06

was fucking t w a pilot the

1:14:09

end he was smoking on the cigars not

1:14:11

explore for the and hugo early

1:14:13

for that castro cubans like

1:14:16

the movie really gloss over that bit like that's

1:14:18

in international as be nice dawn

1:14:20

undoubtedly by the cia

1:14:23

larissa personality and from from the

1:14:25

movie from dust from the every point view smuggling

1:14:28

cuban cigars into the united states

1:14:31

like a reasonable thing for pilot

1:14:33

to do to make few quid on soviet that

1:14:35

you could pick up and worse and a contacts in

1:14:37

bar with your while of hang and right exactly

1:14:40

noises like what i messed up with new player you

1:14:42

flew back from cuba i am really get two

1:14:44

hundred and two guys the

1:14:45

guys could be hundred fifty two hundred dollars

1:14:47

pop might roll on the toys of

1:14:50

cuban virgins as they are

1:14:52

bootlegging again like you do you mean about as as

1:14:54

medicine year and and your internet here pretty

1:14:57

often flannery

1:14:59

mine me we are all is for confirm

1:15:02

tax yeah

1:15:04

she's like the guys no no thanks

1:15:07

, got some thoughts about communism

1:15:10

as well as need to get this to a few people

1:15:12

where needs to be it doesn't happen you need yeah

1:15:14

you need minutes it's military opera that's the

1:15:16

military off the and like he was sounds like since

1:15:18

he was in the military he just never

1:15:20

got out it like it was meant as military cia

1:15:22

and now it's like like if you're just reading

1:15:24

it all yeah i think do for it was

1:15:26

definitely got out of all that to

1:15:28

do to get a commercial like

1:15:31

you know to work in commercial airlines just to

1:15:33

get back into it

1:15:34

vpn the as your sees body

1:15:36

a and dear listener look again

1:15:39

they offered the they

1:15:41

train and instructor for a

1:15:43

one the hammered aca i

1:15:47

don't know if you know the cheeses ladder

1:15:50

, to fly with similar neverland ah

1:15:53

i don't i just feel like just right

1:15:55

this very second i've been put on list sit

1:15:58

my mouth and i let my live in south

1:16:00

right now i feel like to see i picked up

1:16:02

on us and are like you know roger

1:16:04

like operate of the other don't and

1:16:06

put them on them list attitude i'm already

1:16:08

on earth an eye out on others

1:16:10

as well i'm this i'm this the mad

1:16:12

one and i and i won't go into a deep are we going

1:16:14

to have some other time somewhere so maybe

1:16:16

on the the revisits of nine eleven mohammed

1:16:19

atta when he flew

1:16:21

the plane

1:16:23

a into the they'd say he was learn

1:16:25

had to fly in on as the he was ship

1:16:27

in ship in he was a saudi

1:16:29

arabian based in pakistan

1:16:32

the and with

1:16:33

apparently at taliban forces

1:16:36

in afghanistan really

1:16:39

with said your name in and nineteen of this

1:16:42

exactly the seventeen as lighting hijackers were saudi

1:16:44

arabian so anally annie whereas

1:16:46

that make sense you know nine eleven headlines

1:16:48

for them in saudi arabia attacks united

1:16:50

states however how

1:16:52

that i was smuggling in heroin into country

1:16:55

then flying an empty and out the plan

1:16:58

and in practice the fly into the empty plain the

1:17:01

fly in a landing obviously mohammed

1:17:05

atta only was terrible the

1:17:08

or one the worst

1:17:10

these documentaries like hitler

1:17:12

insane face and face loose

1:17:15

change documentaries about nine eleven

1:17:17

the have like their flight instructor since the for

1:17:19

for mohammed atta san i was the worst

1:17:21

pilot ever he was okay was terrible cons he

1:17:23

couldn't take all couldn't land

1:17:27

it's assessment everybody the oldest

1:17:29

strengthens my barry seal forrest gump

1:17:31

cocaine yet the oil cocaine

1:17:33

made of average them everyday

1:17:35

everything right so forty

1:17:38

pounds of explosives in canada mexico

1:17:41

at smells like to see a to me boys so

1:17:43

this incident the people of back on when the try to

1:17:45

find first inkling of barry been above the cia

1:17:48

as talking about it it

1:17:50

was first public incident there's

1:17:52

rumors of of line of vietnam and do not have faced

1:17:54

of what like this is the first time barry

1:17:57

popped up on the radar in public

1:17:59

records in

1:18:00

your arrest records a police report

1:18:02

said court documents suspense crackers and

1:18:05

as said in the movie that was the guys

1:18:07

was smuggling

1:18:09

try to calm down little bit it was easier to get over

1:18:11

in the narrative the night handy

1:18:13

like kind of adventure movie or actually move

1:18:15

it in the first five minutes the film yeah yeah i'm

1:18:17

sure jumps a guy i was totally

1:18:20

understandable would like exposed

1:18:22

to see a military either

1:18:24

of covert black operations in operations

1:18:26

south america and cuba in the first

1:18:28

five minutes of are like are happy go lucky tom cruise

1:18:31

action movie in technicolor a get it's

1:18:33

bit it's bit it's of attack right so

1:18:35

am barry

1:18:38

was arrested for the stuff

1:18:41

put on a bond fifty thousand dollar

1:18:43

bond which he then was mysteriously ever

1:18:45

skip out on with a recrimination paid

1:18:47

fifty gay and it just went flying around and

1:18:49

to give fuck they just was to stay pause

1:18:51

and just plain in parole officer not offensive

1:18:53

this incident of him get arrested

1:18:56

was the catalyst for him being fired from his either you

1:18:58

were gone full time and public into

1:19:00

the espionage is so this is like by

1:19:02

fuck it lost the job

1:19:04

i'm not pilot no more i can't say

1:19:06

oil flow of t w a it's like right

1:19:09

will make me own company which ended up in

1:19:11

subsidiary of the see a publicly like

1:19:13

for that's real sad truth like his company

1:19:16

that was in in charge of and all

1:19:18

your company's only made in baton rouge and

1:19:20

then later on and mena arkansas they

1:19:22

all ended up showing up as

1:19:24

being

1:19:25

financial subsidiaries of a parent

1:19:27

company that was one hundred percent guaranteed

1:19:30

the

1:19:30

be a shell company fondling

1:19:32

and laundering and for some time

1:19:35

you can try some is evidence of

1:19:38

first time he popped up on the radar of cia

1:19:40

direct yes is like yep could only

1:19:42

after his death at the time and still

1:19:45

there will still speculated it's still

1:19:47

not one hundred percent that he was apparently

1:19:49

though because they're trying to for can obviously

1:19:51

covered as he hope it but is using

1:19:54

still say you were a years as an

1:19:56

idling there like

1:19:58

all them technical and the see i like

1:20:01

a

1:20:02

you know just like straight in say like

1:20:04

not knowing only one who they are no connection

1:20:07

thousand and , get a

1:20:09

subsidiary business my my and

1:20:12

got the contact with you though you for you

1:20:14

love watching the ramones player like them

1:20:17

do differently bentley smokers the arab never

1:20:20

see your really good see i like your

1:20:22

style on sign my record label his legacy

1:20:24

my record watson berry being laid

1:20:26

down to the core the existing so

1:20:29

you see forty thousand pounds a the

1:20:31

lot away barry how

1:20:33

can become work for me like i'm not they

1:20:36

portray that were don't leave was like oh my god

1:20:38

you going to guys how are you with explosives

1:20:41

like it's falcon but that is whitey

1:20:43

from in little airport is disease can a lot

1:20:45

or costa coffee yes and a dozen or a half

1:20:47

of the to see a them come up and locking your door

1:20:49

and go so community doing really well

1:20:51

yourself fairplay at would like to

1:20:54

i dunno

1:20:55

join our organization

1:20:58

now know that that's that's does i will smith

1:21:00

got hired and men in black yes yes

1:21:02

assess assess assess ,

1:21:04

know a rundown an ailing too much

1:21:06

more he says he in years and this bring him

1:21:08

in and you can you could run real fast

1:21:10

person's smart people stupid lena

1:21:12

morgan tommy lee jones that on banks in north

1:21:15

yeah he had to sunrise to decide decide

1:21:18

you find that not a are you manifest

1:21:20

this to think that your organs for gonna see

1:21:22

gonna shill that

1:21:25

that at one point alex jones got

1:21:27

all our own joe rogan got all amir

1:21:31

and generally you love your family been alive

1:21:34

so if you want that they remain the

1:21:36

case this like don't

1:21:38

be san stuff about this this this this

1:21:40

this okay

1:21:42

the everybody thought like yet boys been compromised

1:21:45

they call you know not like shit like malik

1:21:47

that in the story or selling the alternative narrative

1:21:50

but you the even in the refusal

1:21:52

to engage in that material

1:21:54

the use that your obfuscate know from the public view

1:21:57

some people like are garda want our this or

1:21:59

he doesn't believe in lord

1:22:01

conspiracy people like the castle can

1:22:03

bite on every hocus dangled in front the emperor's

1:22:05

the late or go out whatever you i would

1:22:08

go on with it or but changed my mind stuff

1:22:10

unless it's not a religion waiters a dog

1:22:12

when they those and you have to adhere to

1:22:14

that dog my or else you're like a sailor and

1:22:17

are you know a smoker african and

1:22:19

access can only buy their opinion on what

1:22:21

was seen and heard and and experience

1:22:23

of course our go more you know

1:22:25

the more you know you don't know and i don't

1:22:27

want anyone my own anyone listen of this gone like

1:22:29

i'll hang on air and prices really

1:22:31

lean into the cia here he was not give a rat's ass

1:22:33

about his family give

1:22:37

, fuck about not being

1:22:39

taught were just for the web sites on website says pot

1:22:41

like pot my research we went looking for podcast

1:22:44

on podcast podcast like all of this

1:22:46

stuff is out there does not a secret thing we're not

1:22:48

we're not expose and i think that hasn't already

1:22:50

been said like we are nick now gophers looking

1:22:52

up stuff on light were making so positions were making

1:22:54

claims and put the pieces together love with

1:22:57

from my past knowledge of blubber bad

1:22:59

laugh there's none

1:23:01

been held back from me and like the geffen

1:23:03

in the suppositions in there the

1:23:06

it this is the information they

1:23:08

say that like there's live

1:23:10

like joe you gotta

1:23:12

knock they can hear you on

1:23:14

the phone cameras that down

1:23:16

also you want to get politicians are you

1:23:18

asking her questions and we're gonna pay

1:23:20

you have alimony in the you want to behave yourself

1:23:22

and it

1:23:23

is all these kind like imperatives

1:23:25

and incentives

1:23:27

like a carrot and stick

1:23:29

to be like okay you got too big

1:23:32

at some point you get big enough for someone who's going

1:23:34

to knock on your door and say okay you've responsibility

1:23:36

to the public goods even

1:23:38

certain way you feel like would

1:23:40

control of like

1:23:42

pop stars and for can you know

1:23:45

and years he was people and certain

1:23:47

people who are like very very influential

1:23:50

that they will probably get phone call the will

1:23:52

probably get some kind single experiencing

1:23:54

so let us know the

1:23:56

lava control within the council

1:23:58

culture at the moment the cancel

1:24:00

cause you're kind of i think flicker

1:24:03

like an apparent hope so for the last few years

1:24:05

and eventually sizzler people get fed up of have been

1:24:07

told that are allowed to think nothing for sanity

1:24:10

there is self censorship

1:24:13

the one on whether you like public discourse

1:24:15

at the moment especially over corona

1:24:17

wires know the fenced off or people are nearly afraid

1:24:19

talk about it people losing jobs over

1:24:21

this case the people using this certain

1:24:23

financial and social incentives

1:24:26

to not engage in certain the discourse

1:24:28

analysis gangster the think

1:24:30

at time that this stuff was happening

1:24:33

the very early days in this black ops espionage

1:24:35

media control know into where are

1:24:37

you tube doesn't there's no independent media

1:24:40

there's no self created media where

1:24:42

you could start a channel say whatever

1:24:44

mad shit you want and

1:24:46

think if think was cia that

1:24:49

i'd be like brilliance bring on the fuck

1:24:51

and mad conspiracy to murder

1:24:53

conspiracy country confined to

1:24:55

load the market with unconscionable

1:24:58

bullshit that's

1:24:59

completely unprovable have lot of

1:25:01

people believe in that and then we have appointed aim as

1:25:03

like gobs to for can swallow on

1:25:05

e l shows it's like using

1:25:08

more smoke to cover smoke

1:25:09

there's

1:25:12

i'm doing true historical point the point there like

1:25:14

this the fact is the fact is a fight here's what i

1:25:16

feel but don't forget these facts the

1:25:19

kind barry seal was doing all this stuff i

1:25:21

would imagine it wasn't

1:25:23

uncommon

1:25:25

someone who was like successful say and the drug

1:25:27

trade or something like that to have somebody to

1:25:29

the a give yet a

1:25:31

knock on the door be like so clear and

1:25:33

were watching from two months and we know what to cure

1:25:36

hi into drugs at the door

1:25:38

so you have to action and go

1:25:40

to jail forever

1:25:42

our a turn into informant

1:25:44

keep doing what you do it and we put

1:25:46

your know on the payroll but we'll let you

1:25:48

keep the money into making your drugs in

1:25:50

order for us to watch you will

1:25:52

help you succeed and get better connections

1:25:54

gets deeper into the environment that you're in

1:25:57

a deeper deeper like ozark or whatever and

1:25:59

then event the

1:26:01

when you find the big boys will come in

1:26:03

sweep everybody out of it and then we put into witness

1:26:05

protection or something or let you get shot whenever i don't

1:26:07

give fuck

1:26:08

that's how it used to go i think now

1:26:10

there's a lot more of this like

1:26:12

self organization and self censorship

1:26:15

at words societal

1:26:17

factors that keep people behaving

1:26:19

in a certain way

1:26:20

for fear of am slick social recrimination

1:26:23

as well as crime shit like that but i

1:26:25

don't think there's the same

1:26:28

level of independent acquisition what

1:26:31

the cia will come up with knock on your door and go like

1:26:33

the come here at your greatest fly in and

1:26:35

you're not afraid of deal drugs and here a bit risky

1:26:38

doing the work for the cia like definitely here nah

1:26:40

probably harder find face of company like

1:26:43

know ronald mcdonald used to a dude at mcdonalds

1:26:45

yes yeah yeah i never even if you're

1:26:47

conscious yeah they ronald

1:26:49

mcdonald to be at your birthday party when you a kid

1:26:51

but now it's hot like mcdonald's is that know it's

1:26:54

just hard to pinpoint like get the get

1:26:56

the on one facetime value like

1:26:58

i could go on like mcdonald's or let's see i

1:27:00

you know it's harder to you sound like

1:27:02

info at any company won't

1:27:05

get you anywhere anymore you know time is

1:27:07

yeah who like you say they don't just going to

1:27:09

knock around see lot they used to

1:27:11

you wanted accident commit suicide that though yeah

1:27:15

whoops more about that way also present

1:27:17

frozen bag of his blood take me phones

1:27:19

an exam because it's much more approachable

1:27:21

and tangible you

1:27:23

know companies your we all have not going to a all of rock

1:27:26

home as , not gonna get can't

1:27:29

get enough of these looking chicken nugget i'll get a twenty

1:27:31

packet of yeah he's on your

1:27:34

the skins man and half in law the nuggets over

1:27:36

here on the roll up a

1:27:38

movie like the founder let's say

1:27:40

what's that yeah my thirty eight male going in

1:27:43

that match up many taken over the perfect

1:27:45

example of how like

1:27:47

corporatization the

1:27:49

neoliberal as capitalist structures

1:27:52

then take over really good idea

1:27:54

the

1:27:55

homogenize as a national a that into

1:27:57

like a behemoth car

1:28:00

ration that are actually has no soul

1:28:02

but as started from the seeds or something

1:28:04

really wholesome and really good

1:28:06

then ends up extrapolate surf into such

1:28:08

a large organization that becomes

1:28:11

like it's own entity

1:28:14

that on

1:28:16

destroy about the also

1:28:18

on

1:28:19

on growable or unchangeable the he can put

1:28:21

us all into with it's so big but also you can't kill

1:28:23

it like it like giant the

1:28:25

human something like that were like my to

1:28:27

keep him in the went right is the two lads are make

1:28:29

a radical bourbons super popular let

1:28:31

like nationalizing

1:28:33

he went all these places and he could your

1:28:36

people into full can like buying into the whole

1:28:38

situation which is like these old see a guy is

1:28:40

not going in guy who was information on

1:28:42

used turn the after while

1:28:45

that

1:28:46

became self sustaining an ecosystem

1:28:49

the cia are rare

1:28:51

de ayer an essay now what is

1:28:55

that was made and in the late eighties river

1:28:57

as came from or where says special

1:29:00

services up like that like all these

1:29:03

information and intel agencies

1:29:05

are are kind of like the to

1:29:07

stay in and and compartmentalized

1:29:09

to a fault where you don't know

1:29:12

what the other group is doing

1:29:14

and will find this later on like even into the eighties

1:29:16

when the f b i did the a us

1:29:18

customs the a t s and cia

1:29:21

were often clashed with children such a way

1:29:23

the

1:29:24

meter wanted and could take any action on barry

1:29:26

which give barry carte blanche to pretty much do

1:29:28

what he want with impunity

1:29:30

that all it i'm new to the was doing illegal stuff but

1:29:32

for fear of seven on the other ones toes as is

1:29:35

the way everybody left him an

1:29:37

arm's length which left barry african

1:29:39

enough room to you'll fly in between

1:29:41

them out it's real divorced parents situation

1:29:43

isn't only when i'm running daddy's has

1:29:45

you let me this when our mom is i see that

1:29:47

we do that here i will answer do whatever the fuck you

1:29:49

want

1:29:50

the we get near perfect i

1:29:52

haven't heard today there's like a floater

1:29:54

further donald five he has yet

1:29:57

so so this would do

1:29:59

the growing the it the

1:30:01

unfettered growth of this intel

1:30:03

agency and how how this

1:30:06

organization was the sixties which is like we

1:30:08

have some information about you mister see

1:30:10

a to

1:30:12

like we already know like you already know

1:30:14

you're being watched so when you're doing this stuff

1:30:18

the

1:30:18

mean antibody com seer like yeah okay as

1:30:20

aren't like you know it becomes a self sustaining

1:30:22

volume

1:30:24

mm any idea school over soon

1:30:26

canceled a business analyst

1:30:28

who committed suicide again of his

1:30:31

soul odds that this can happen

1:30:34

and get to social level of that it's like

1:30:37

the almost toppled the united states

1:30:39

by see his actions he was involved in so

1:30:41

many things that his trade was threaded

1:30:43

through so many really

1:30:45

deep and high powered transactions

1:30:49

that you're like how did that i wasn't allowed to

1:30:51

happen voted to see let that get

1:30:53

away from them

1:30:55

yeah and gary where i'm from parliament

1:30:58

to the suburbs stir up another

1:31:00

country enter into a war the web

1:31:02

and eleven the main point

1:31:04

of trying make all at waffle is there's

1:31:06

no way the

1:31:08

norway the organization

1:31:11

like to see a at that time in

1:31:13

the you know early seventies

1:31:15

late sixties the able to walk

1:31:17

up green the

1:31:19

man like barry seal ago come here

1:31:21

we see you do that he does would you like to would

1:31:23

you like to join us and did work for us

1:31:26

i'm awful girl had been groomed yeah

1:31:29

through the army you don't just walk into

1:31:31

see a like a grid lock stock and ocean's eleven

1:31:34

account and to get tank that's what like

1:31:36

can't infiltrate focus seemingly

1:31:38

forgiveness easy to the pirated yeah

1:31:40

not like what's this hobbies at watching

1:31:42

movies grace yet yet which movies

1:31:44

though going out with friends who isn't it

1:31:46

is more like twenty years previously those

1:31:48

cia agent at a game of football

1:31:51

just as little carbon helicopter game

1:31:53

both an unprecedented salicylic

1:31:55

see let's do that i live out of our lives

1:31:57

are you know that go there are they going to live

1:31:59

like duffers

1:32:00

who again train hammer data and

1:32:02

who trained by sealed like to go into guys

1:32:04

like him got see if there's any lads around the have

1:32:06

any exceptional talents gives shit

1:32:09

keep an eye like football go go into full

1:32:11

can africa yeah i just watching lives running

1:32:13

down efforts like yeah know there's one guy

1:32:15

that five false teeth and the busted up job

1:32:17

at private money solid for

1:32:20

guy could read of the them photographic memory ah

1:32:22

says we go to like to tassie yeah you

1:32:24

guys wouldn't you guys wouldn't be interested that graphic

1:32:27

memory outstanding poisonous

1:32:29

one more question can speak the it

1:32:31

made made traffic or

1:32:34

at least to convince at least be vaccines i

1:32:36

don't know about that

1:32:37

they i do have a me that went to see

1:32:39

it does not racist because of so accurate as we

1:32:41

we do that as it onto the place love

1:32:43

the if al gore for what we don't want as any

1:32:45

crazy bastard slamming shut his assailant

1:32:47

de gaulle level that is hop family man

1:32:50

the like doing crazy shit fishery as

1:32:52

a family were at least three kids

1:32:54

yeah kids yeah of renewal of different like it

1:32:56

dot promise yen the idea because

1:32:58

it until one because he did the two houses that

1:33:00

the cracks and so yeah bury

1:33:02

a if is involved in and

1:33:04

out much as am full time the

1:33:06

sb knows best

1:33:08

and then at this point he was arrested by costumes

1:33:10

which may have been outside the federal jurisdiction

1:33:12

the cia that

1:33:14

with the explosives or whatever for the ship

1:33:16

though the horses decision to couldn't hide any longer

1:33:19

without the public people knew about the

1:33:21

people involved this explosive scam but we're also

1:33:23

gone running and they were even linked to the gambino

1:33:25

crime family which is republic at the time

1:33:28

the mafia doing they're wonderful work

1:33:30

in their a new yorker at

1:33:33

time removing to las vegas

1:33:35

as know of vegas

1:33:37

them my fucking casino

1:33:40

the other what happens in vegas stays

1:33:42

in the area that i never

1:33:44

knew that the gambino crime family were

1:33:46

like a real thing i was a thought gambino was

1:33:49

i just i heard on the simpsons or something yeah

1:33:51

the gambino family ownership another read book before

1:33:53

families in the that we have a whole episode on their the italian

1:33:55

mafia his superior love

1:33:58

coming over as immigrants in the twenties from italy

1:34:00

and they're

1:34:02

just basically like to run the numbers doing

1:34:04

all that stuff a plane and yet but i've played

1:34:06

new york up with sections are we just do our business

1:34:08

like we're back on it is our campaign was like

1:34:10

when you're talking about some an air strike i a murphy

1:34:12

yet he that put it put the gambino

1:34:14

crime family like the head of the get a in

1:34:16

already was this fucking their donnie brasco

1:34:19

you know your head

1:34:20

read funny and black sony and all of these guys

1:34:22

are there are real people like it's all

1:34:24

the game can be no the use

1:34:27

of monte verde know there's like five families

1:34:29

and their that the someone the sopranos

1:34:32

as one its ab yeah so

1:34:34

began been offering family was linked it to bury

1:34:36

undergone running up so this was this

1:34:38

was books did a big boss for us

1:34:40

customs the conspiracy were fourteen thousand

1:34:42

pounds the explosives what

1:34:46

day they

1:34:48

caught him and then berries like a

1:34:51

cop drama forget it i let me go make this

1:34:53

go away

1:34:54

cousins are like ah it's a

1:34:56

big both colourful kind

1:34:58

only the can we keep me

1:35:00

want to live not were doing a job yeah and

1:35:03

there is already got out that was arrested for the

1:35:05

couldn't like puts you back in horse some

1:35:07

one the customs agents arrested barry was called

1:35:09

dick gustafson the heat transfer

1:35:12

laser to da in baton rouge offered

1:35:14

his case was completed possibly because

1:35:16

of a promotion because his discretion of the

1:35:18

us customs agent possibly

1:35:20

the first are inclined to the d a been able

1:35:22

to use barry for their own him so came

1:35:24

out of the da's radar to be like life

1:35:27

the

1:35:28

south america moon smells like

1:35:30

drugs to me the

1:35:32

trial barry and his cohorts in this gonna

1:35:34

next closest moving kiss and fact barry

1:35:36

basically got away with it

1:35:38

spawns public record rumor a berry

1:35:40

being in league with the see a from the

1:35:42

outset i'm having this fabled immunity

1:35:45

to the boston so much about a

1:35:47

and his ability to be able to acquire

1:35:49