0:34

while the other those things where the guys

0:37

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0:39

going door for a cup of tea and find

0:41

a new does everybody in the house is what

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i thought of years ago online made some videos

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he was you was you probably one of the earliest

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resounding the earliest like viral facebook

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the characters can hi i started

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and then just moved into comedy eventually started a podcast

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the sort of

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half acre material on the people and

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as turn into a fucking juggernaut

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yeah and the only nights i'm starting to sort of tic

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on guests and stuff like the auto we've got a core group

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of like comedians that it would have one just to have the crock

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my stable of comedians that come

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that the the white kids you

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know are underway have developed as but i did

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, an island like last year for nigeria me a

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shudder my imam

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general landry how my news stories are sit

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at the people send em yeah like kind

5:28

of viral content and it's very much

5:30

like

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for i mean dolphins recently fans may

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not want a political content on his one of my sir

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hello and that i

5:37

listen to it all the time because it's like

5:39

the only thing for they watched that i'm not

5:44

what would you say like reconstitute and into content

5:46

in my mind i got to wait the way i'm

5:48

as like a yeah i'm just old bothered

5:50

, rebels will i mean i am disorder

5:52

shows me going to things or yeah i'm watching like

5:55

that new apis your severance you know with an

5:57

adam scott rise and that and diverse he just

5:59

the advocated know he goes to work in this office

6:02

and that they put a sock an implant into his brain

6:04

as like some secret see a job like governments

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in old and when you go of the elevator

6:09

to go with your office the brain

6:11

implants separates your personality

6:13

your personality all the memories from work and

6:15

all the memories from home are completely separate

6:18

of hamlets liquor i'm

6:20

like an echo on aren't as brilliant as brilliant as brilliant

6:23

but at the back my mind and like logging everything

6:25

mk ultra cia operation on

6:27

his book and i'm i'm going like okay long the content

6:30

look at all descriptions of book and still

6:32

you know

6:33

my memories and all the details

6:35

so that like if someone comes off during the show to they

6:37

can go off it's like an hour show the king and

6:39

this happens in also every fuck a movie i

6:41

watch every yeah but i'm able to this the your show

6:44

and it's just for it like it's freedom

6:46

it's all not medically recently

6:48

watched like watched like a whore or like a documentary like

6:50

this guy be talking about you

6:52

know when in in you need to watch like some cartoons vigorously

6:55

i just ate something capella army or so

6:57

years is like is like funny

7:00

if it does not the is like nonstop crack

7:03

i find i get really serious and them like so

7:05

listen to me with your feelings in a hurry athena

7:07

with of the political and cultural

7:09

marxism leadership ob gyn am

7:13

you have to switch go crack when

7:15

you're talking about all the current events

7:17

the not the focus

7:19

the easy way he gonna end up bringing

7:21

the asus i am just complement near

7:24

craft because it's really

7:26

really good fun of a

7:28

parker and racial or not that dodgers

7:30

com from trying the source material to

7:32

talk about onstage yeah because you wouldn't want

7:35

the really the right in

7:37

the sort of anything political you want that

7:39

sort of i'm skimming the surface for jokes

7:41

on a level about

7:43

the know and

7:44

that's kinda how high did and it is not

7:46

is a very am entertain and and you

7:48

have a child as well and you do a show

7:51

with your good lady wife maureen also

7:53

yes he'll jump on every once in awhile to keep

7:55

me in line gray crack and a really good community

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that only scientists would love for there

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8:33

man is on the most funniest me the scenery life as

8:35

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comedian

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8:41

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8:44

him a flat out around the clock that

8:46

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8:48

podcast ham pulled

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9:02

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9:04

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9:07

how to be fair the girls are be turned into

9:09

speakers over and right and i'm like

9:11

a store that horse or and the shows well

9:13

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9:16

courage is more than anything yeah i

9:18

have a very special skills i can't

9:20

even sort of good i not the was a joke that

9:24

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9:26

kids are you for a voice box hello

9:29

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9:31

enough looking a whole at your brilliant should vogel

9:35

chris was yeah i watched a documentary you're

9:38

in the hotel as nice as a hard lancaster i

9:40

drove dine from my house three hour drive time

9:42

and lovely drive know where to start

9:45

i ever spoken by and the country

9:47

magical mentor tyrone yes and

9:49

old are you sort of have in your mind as serial

9:51

killers and you're like i'll just hold it pays for

9:54

ours on m p look at a stop at a

9:56

ditch somewhere it will just work good as new electric

9:58

light for forty miles many direction

9:59

for grab a guy got dine and

10:02

the watchdog their a documentary hotel

10:06

the airports on you know just to get older or

10:08

spooky music yeah

10:09

it's a little bit a half a little

10:12

bit life on info on a little

10:14

bit heavy on

10:16

an emotional manipulative music

10:18

and misspells text messages

10:21

yeah gotta twenty five percent of it is

10:24

the commission and

10:25

that the dead air wife's at

10:27

text messages that she was writing to him

10:29

welcome to me misspelled it was all

10:32

it was almost like a he knew they were gonna used for a

10:34

documentary does that i always will always watch

10:36

these documentaries like even on you can yea

10:38

one you're like this guy knew he was gonna be grits you

10:40

know it's a bit like dancing i'm going to what do you think i'm regardless

10:42

of all the time this letter

10:45

gonna need something to show and court with folks

10:47

that are loaded is or things like someone's gonna read

10:49

this or if i'm going to use

10:51

this for graphics on a documentary let me

10:53

really just lay their side play

10:55

, play what was annoying will have have

10:58

the to legacy be until

11:00

eight and was you don't was make like really

11:02

stupid spelling mistakes and spelling got to trust and

11:05

the least and word and and right began and like put

11:08

a fork and more how we want to scream and head

11:10

of hollyoaks new again or how

11:12

somebody read as cause you're reading the whole documentary

11:15

and then you're so i know the wasn't supposed to be like a narrator

11:18

what you're reading and argument three and then you're watching

11:21

predominately it was that the security

11:23

cam footage yeah that was all got for

11:25

freedom of information act requests from

11:27

the police so you had them

11:30

body cam from the cops are

11:32

you had

11:33

facebook videos that were made

11:36

by cnn herself which

11:39

way too much access to some of life

11:41

when you see the things you talk to my room i saw

11:43

him and hardware that as long as a so

11:45

much

11:46

for sharing gonna

11:48

then add was like drone footage

11:50

of the the size

11:52

that the police are going to investigate local for stuff

11:55

like as oddities and and nobody was married

11:57

so there's no context com until i found

12:00

that may that make sense it was very much

12:02

like the tried

12:04

to reveal itself lettuce

12:06

or your villa says naturally

12:08

and in doing so left out so much context

12:11

so much nuance and a

12:13

lot of information that we're going to talk about today it is i'm

12:15

in and was that it was a long run

12:17

up to a very suddenly and i feel

12:19

like build a build a build a build up and yeah i did

12:21

killer in july and it was very like you

12:23

know

12:24

when i like it it's like a cork

12:26

wang

12:27

a killer honestly like relic like two

12:29

hours a fallen and any at one

12:31

drop and a kind of a funny feeling and have to

12:33

go right well i'm against that it and and and

12:36

, sleep with your zoom and

12:38

true african black and white tunnel like

12:40

longhorn man do it when you're close

12:42

early likes me juri a burst

12:44

of like only like wasn't going on was watching this argument

12:46

as well for at someone drop

12:48

philomena do it you know get away from a family for

12:50

the night gotta squeeze it all in got

12:53

to get it all done done it's bit, like a special

12:55

thing would like some candles and now

12:57

i just did i'm not like to do it at a sticker mcdonald's

13:00

so you know how you a secret eating

13:02

and then links in a murder rolling

13:04

up a fancy hotel, dubai and fucking

13:06

to that's what they call

13:08

waltzing matilda you know

13:10

of a while for mattel used to be waltzing

13:12

matilda is the bushmen

13:14

that would go out and to be wasting your family or be

13:16

were from a sexual partner the

13:19

used to get like a little bit amass a little bit

13:21

somewhere they put it into their bed

13:23

role

13:24

and ended like get their bed role in that they've

13:26

fucked or bad role

13:28

like ah like some kind of a will not no

13:30

wonder people fuck shape flashlight with of

13:32

the thing to get wall and they get moss and the make it

13:34

west and the he's going to fire in a bullet in the bed role

13:37

than the focus and in the way but i'll oh that's

13:39

called waltzing matilda cause it looks like you're dancing

13:41

with the girl when you're looking from behind

13:44

mattoon

13:46

vivica the go and it's an original

13:48

flashlight

13:49

there is an israeli that will be the

13:51

bushmen used to do it again this time

13:54

turn at the center

13:55

everyday as go back legal legal

13:58

and ranking and for me

13:59

in one or one from the

14:01

all the different ways should allow [unk] chocolate

14:04

yeah yeah

14:07

, like b you you know if we're going to stealing

14:09

or bathrobes anymore you're like kind of right

14:11

now have to be be

14:14

to stupid is in a ribbon i mean everybody is about

14:16

much you know is hop hollywood they made problem yeah

14:19

you need to be the grab play like i like them big and

14:23

hold on to what a what

14:25

did you think what chris wasn't and preliminary like

14:27

the original out and about this before we went there to put your

14:29

mind and down to the your the mind of the audience

14:31

that doesn't know the story yes i remember i'm

14:33

my wife's sister sending

14:35

me like audible watching a documentary last night was

14:38

not you know i liked that sorta thing i like true crime

14:40

i like those sort of things like the album

14:42

was just a bit too

14:44

real does your wife sister her kids

14:47

your wife have kids yeah the

14:50

your kids

14:51

finding all the kids watching this

14:54

probably going to poker your ass

14:56

graham yeah yeah to the you know you just

14:58

you cannot a velocity the guy just fucking psychopathic

15:00

can't wrap your head around it

15:03

was scenario would you get yourself

15:05

and we would be able to do that's or damage to his

15:07

eyes

15:08

that we don't want my i don't want in

15:10

which the silly there's no but it seems to be a recurrent

15:13

theme and this was busy days there there

15:15

the

15:16

the group of people that exists in the world

15:19

the theme to thing

15:21

they actually and violently damage children

15:23

a pastime slash hobbies less

15:26

sexual proclivities and

15:28

the huge go hard to people

15:30

i can understand how door and

15:32

roving mobs in the streets

15:35

pack and people and date with machetes year and it's

15:37

ugly compute we talked about this briefly before but

15:39

like am it's confusing when you like a comedian

15:41

or something and you're just you're like maybe make maybe joke

15:44

you know why can't they even joke

15:46

about this when they are you get mad at the people

15:48

doing

15:50

as you do

15:51

me talking about it you know it's like

15:53

are lame alleged v defies the been councils

15:56

less than comedians yet organ about like

15:58

jimmy savile or josef fritzl and

15:59

you're right about yeah why aren't there like militia

16:02

groups go on a range of taken them i know you've got

16:04

those like beta five hundred type folks yes

16:07

the run up and people but yeah mm

16:09

me is there isn't the more

16:11

while and version of a i

16:13

do understand that your if prudence

16:15

and their rule of law and

16:18

the system of justice

16:20

would mean that like all it would take for

16:22

you to need to to get somebody murdered

16:25

would be to have like even a semi legitimate

16:27

claim of the i sort of a damage against

16:29

someone you're like

16:31

i don't like i can't he caught me off and traffic i know

16:33

where you live your life a little

16:35

timmy little buy a bag of my undies if you

16:37

for can say that the enough charlie murphy

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toaster dick yeah

16:41

them are because my dick and in the next thing january

16:44

isn't in for can take away from

16:46

the chinese the government hires unsettled filing

16:49

that like and south america barrier or

16:51

but a bit dig a hole and bury up to your

16:53

and of the or neck and focused on that your head

16:55

like head doing

16:56

most countries in africa in an era when

16:58

you cheat on your husband were here when your wife looks

17:01

at someone years here i am

17:03

yes was just very

17:05

while a toy love a complex then

17:08

discuss he actually did something terrible

17:10

to his kids and thought he would get

17:12

away with us i remember watching this when it came out

17:14

first and as like all that's gone on the list

17:18

i couldn't do with because came out of the time like

17:21

we were

17:22

for baby

17:23

and as like you know

17:26

i probably should have done this before had a good

17:28

because of research and in

17:30

, few days as

17:33

i'm livid i'm live with somebody

17:35

like we somebody like we were dot like a daughter

17:37

downstairs a matter for ago

17:39

they were friendly baby

17:41

there you like

17:42

annoying and let not in the journalists

17:45

and maybe the db a bit annoying elect in afghanistan

17:49

mike ehrlich ignore any for an hour to air

17:52

aware that like technically like neglect or whatever

17:54

but it just like a

17:56

guy really sounds to now mangy even mangy little

17:58

best

18:00

the can't understand their believe

18:03

the man a grown man

18:05

really okay

18:08

her like a small child even if they

18:10

are annoying and their windy like i have ah cultures

18:12

i know i have accidentally hurt my child

18:15

the guilt and i nearly for like

18:17

there was one day like a wasp landed on his shoulder

18:20

something and i nearly

18:22

killed myself

18:23

and him by accident going over table

18:26

to like

18:26

on shit off his shoulder let you know you're like i

18:29

can even

18:31

the with the fact that the thing might hurt you i will

18:33

fucking destroy the high strung out get

18:35

out there was burgled say the back of my mind

18:37

at all times whenever we're

18:39

in the kitchen to she's a free romer

18:41

fianna hands knees or underclassmen

18:44

in my mind every time i move

18:46

my feet are a chair and i'm sitting here

18:49

they will check all around me every

18:51

single time without fail it's not like a habit

18:53

i have to learn

18:54

the phrase and

18:55

for using the look around the globe fowler

18:57

safe place to don't hurry up and

19:00

the child three yet don't crush her tiny

19:02

bones in their lovely hands remember

19:06

as , that was probably be who that it was

19:08

as if a southern iris tv

19:11

ad campaign of across narrows that's

19:13

the green grass code don't crush

19:15

your child's figure out a the earliest

19:18

there's loaded tiny bones and

19:20

their bones and a falcon freaking out

19:23

and going to like

19:24

good to hear back the going

19:26

to just like

19:27

mashable yeah for sure little tiny

19:30

or any fees honored if you're living like

19:32

of i've i've don't it with like a

19:34

rock harris and the sound of iraq like

19:37

the only imagine

19:41

the near tacoma details like danny

19:43

how me like and er folk a her and to get like

19:46

a cautionary moink every single time

19:49

i'm with an authentic i care about my kids

19:51

weren't any males public that's what i'm thinking

19:53

and it's muscle cars able to like

19:56

kid widows i mean it's

19:58

up seemingly annie

19:59

no guilt or remorse there

20:02

it will it is just the unthinkable

20:05

it's like height of freaky a normal person

20:08

out imagine what it would take to do that

20:10

african child is disgusting

20:12

like or going to thrive only thirty let's get like

20:14

even today yeah papa to the car come back

20:16

and your eyes open the door very gingerly

20:19

is gingerly always have the door i'd like i've learned if

20:21

i was a single due to private have kept adorable

20:24

the common dorothea and that the a baby

20:26

would have been flat across the and sure enough she was that she

20:28

was behind the door and i was a dental dental

20:30

critical moment zaftig for an exam

20:33

and i am yes

20:35

or like it mean for anybody to haven't harder you

20:37

probably heard of the case you probably heard of

20:39

the documentary

20:41

yeah for terrible story

20:44

was i was eating poorly cold by the doc

20:46

to be honest

20:47

what did your the people the usage or

20:49

your way sister saw it and she was was

20:52

shown best least he

20:54

basically just at all it was a bit too

20:56

i think the with the the cops body

20:58

cam footage and stuff like that it was very

21:01

sort of weirdly real

21:04

oh yeah and she was like that was one where i was

21:06

just in eatery talk about all these crazy

21:08

serial killers and if you know

21:11

in the murders and they're all like hyper

21:13

violent and it's eight you do it does

21:15

all just kind of blend together but

21:17

it is also from the sixty seventy

21:19

exactly is it online exactly and like

21:21

you know they play the cool music and it seems go with the

21:24

vietnam war footage they're like mama looks awfully

21:26

you know harper hurt like

21:29

hell skip for you know to me or that i'm

21:31

black i'm least photo that's been like

21:33

edited and away were like that the elements

21:35

of it move and let them cool pbs and

21:37

ken burns way forty graphics

21:40

and because that's all they have they have had one

21:42

could picture of this motherfucker from jail and

21:44

everything else was done

21:46

before they digital photography before cctv

21:49

before the all the have as like people's stories

21:51

this is don and twenty any the course of and the

21:53

modern a murder with modern day attack and

21:56

he went mad currently with as you korean thing

21:58

you see hawija think and ball

21:59

the go on there is no sign try

22:02

there is no like

22:03

if know what you see a movie

22:05

that it's a guy filming i'd the windows

22:08

on some just goes and

22:11

ago

22:11

this is beside his house where you

22:14

know

22:15

the gray overcast day kind

22:17

of boring owes getting

22:18

shield i ,

22:20

a reddit thread of two girls that were clean

22:23

it escape and the

22:25

the eastern coast of ukraine

22:27

or anything border of ukraine

22:29

trying to get into poland

22:31

then

22:34

photo blogs their whole journey and

22:36

and it was like to have stay in the shade and

22:38

the cooking book of eli something illegal

22:41

the road there is like are in the shadow

22:43

and are like taking the pictures like patreon two

22:45

percent trying to find a charger

22:48

yesterday this is like success we got there after five

22:50

days of of incursion the

22:53

finally got there and i'm like cool brilliant safe

22:55

good

22:56

the also like jesus man much

22:59

like

23:00

the bustling it like previously in

23:02

north vietnam in the sixties

23:04

and they're like at the of blogging

23:07

the fight off as their children's skin

23:09

is the on and off and sheets after

23:11

back yeah because they got me a pound

23:13

underwear litter their jungle village

23:16

are yeah you know like a they're

23:18

, i am i tried to get out to

23:21

be a mom be man who i am who

23:23

i here in there and mcmahon on there

23:25

but bank and their i'm the

23:27

ice i'm really tired because i'm had to carry

23:30

my own leg for the last forty mile

23:32

yeah len you would even to where you were going to have her

23:34

own leg over their shoulder twenty chemical

23:36

nice how to get to a hospital

23:39

it to put get the tobacco like

23:42

it it was a and under the covers

23:44

of the does have a vietnam was like annie leibovitz

23:46

take a photograph or they had like the

23:48

news addict

23:51

like you said the soundtrack with their consuming and acts

23:53

and creedence clearwater diversions

23:55

have always liked but the lads

23:57

you only get the full metal jacket it like a

23:59

i'm like the coverage of dash

24:02

he

24:04

the whole of america's perception about what war

24:06

was oh yeah for sure from then on

24:08

he has like oh shit these other

24:11

the different from start to finish this is not a hero's journey

24:13

to see out like a heroic endeavor

24:16

the when you see something like a murderer

24:19

actually tantalize in real time

24:22

not just like

24:23

your mind hundred i can dramatize version

24:25

of somehow plan for around and very

24:28

quiet and just kind of the

24:30

affleck what you know like sickeningly silent

24:33

and the guy years has gonna the phone and you're just

24:35

like no one no one in this room have taken a breath

24:37

and like fucking ninety seconds will be talk

24:39

about when it when he was when he went over to the neighbor says

24:41

and of a cylinder see on tv like sketchy

24:44

fidgety

24:46

waves are weird just

24:48

the wrong vibe the have you know they're

24:50

like i can we can be commended the neighbors the yeah

24:52

c'mon

24:53

the show on cctv footage amount just on his

24:55

phone like he had a own you know it it was like

24:57

it let him and the the house for the get posts be owners

24:59

of the acyclic or i'll be on the phone

25:02

their luggage or looks to be gone in two days

25:04

when you know users so detached

25:06

he just didn't give a shit like i think

25:08

you would either be way over the top

25:11

hanukkah and or you would be absolutely shot

25:13

time with panic somewhat even

25:15

even know you're fucking second the him in a way

25:17

where is she you know you would be so scrambled

25:20

or

25:22

you would need like sedated and again

25:24

elements of the kids were diagnosed kids are method

25:26

where are they very weird we talk with

25:28

all the details of new m atlanta

25:32

before we start the show and sent

25:34

everybody feel it's borders pattern

25:36

that com pleasure was basically is the

25:39

place to be i mean they're all

25:41

of yeah yeah this has a oh

25:43

yeah

25:43

damn

25:46

got lot of extra content behind the scenes

25:48

stuff out free episodes

25:52

lives and back in a day apps of

25:54

love

25:55

live shows exclusive

25:58

content a nobody else gets

25:59

i counted up between public and private

26:02

stuff to but thirteen hundred hours of content

26:04

online tcg has and

26:07

if you put that i was i was hours

26:09

a week

26:11

that's twelve and a half years or to contests

26:13

there's some strange number three of my

26:15

a madman we're only going to buy the ears

26:18

of , and a half a two hour a week podcast

26:21

for the love of stuff just doesn't come on every week

26:23

and then we we've not a bit like

26:25

the regularity of have applied catholic suitable

26:28

that regular should be like a dan carlin like

26:30

it shows up and it shows up it's hard to know

26:32

and am

26:33

i find it difficult to switch between like

26:36

presenter producer editor promoter

26:39

the person yeah like if

26:41

if you have to swap those role is a weird hide

26:43

person was left to the affair the

26:45

end of that list the other yeah

26:49

, get very mixed messages on idina this

26:51

is griot this gets me through my day to like at

26:53

you said this was gonna be up to seven and yeah i'm

26:56

waiting where are you juggle your

26:58

your for your five minutes late makes a good luck in

27:00

like your of a puts a stranger from

27:02

arizona or what i will say as with

27:04

say as you do people want

27:06

the river

27:08

they want to work for them they want the

27:10

this version of the three had to

27:13

if good

27:14

contrasting film clip it will

27:18

hire minorities hire minorities as a lot of work goes

27:20

into

27:21

making it look so easy

27:23

make it sound so easy that another conditioning

27:25

say but like you're one of the guys

27:28

that

27:29

make it look easy but i know demand

27:31

work that you do

27:33

the make what you i got a research those

27:35

decks of you have a gun or i'm

27:37

fan of not even like the researchers

27:39

not you know

27:41

the craft of and we talked about this under under

27:43

saw cast as well to craft a comedy to craft

27:45

a mate like no one what you're gonna say is gonna

27:48

smite you're an agreement

27:50

a practices demented claims that you didn't

27:52

didn't work the amount of being onstage

27:54

like like trying these things in front

27:56

of people didn't like demand a man

27:58

hours

28:00

in certain and think him and you know practice and

28:02

taken an alien for the you're reading news

28:04

reports you're watching movies

28:05

in your turn into their contents

28:08

i'm doing the same and it's nice

28:10

the easy thing it's almost like given over

28:13

a party your life the your

28:15

i'm and in a theme so natural

28:19

people are like was it's easy if you just make more

28:21

like

28:22

i'm giving you my life as and yeah

28:24

if there was like a team of he had gordo should

28:26

be flying

28:27

yeah but we'd all be focused

28:29

really shitty been crushed under threat amsterdam's

28:32

, flush with the air smells since

28:34

hes can a sour commit to that

28:37

sap to someone just open a pack of

28:39

homelessness homelessness

28:41

are the that's how most delicious well

28:43

as well as my like common into the house where they to

28:45

stay on about hum a pocket of home with a lot

28:47

and a before the thing i area at it with

28:50

the the ham sometimes use oh yeah

28:52

which our patrons have all the stuff and

28:55

much more to more as lovingly

28:57

crafted and as lovingly to you

28:59

the lobby the lobby supporters are page

29:02

and to be honest i couldn't do all that out yet even there for

29:04

years and healthy be there for me as the freest

29:06

com

29:07

if you want to engage with the community

29:10

even yesterday

29:13

the get his message from discard

29:15

that they're change the terms of service

29:17

if you misbehave off the platform

29:19

they'll be able to kick you off discards that or something

29:22

a weird chinese

29:24

social credit score shit going on and i spent

29:27

i think since june twenty seventeen

29:29

trying to proselytize discard

29:31

and promoter here on the podcast to get you

29:33

guys to jump on

29:35

the be able to talk like off the platforms like

29:37

twitter and facebook and all these other shit we

29:39

can't even say a swear word before twitter goes are

29:41

you sure you want to use that word and you're like

29:43

you fuck and passive aggressive patronize

29:46

and com the like you sure

29:48

you want to use that word so i

29:50

am we had a place to we were able to chat

29:52

and know we can't hang out there no more

29:54

were like a bunch of skaters getting ticked off at a

29:56

church steps and the

29:59

court have made of

29:59

clear that if you misbehave off

30:02

the platform you're not welcome on the platforms

30:04

i deleted the tcg server

30:08

you want to get onto the community after we have

30:11

move to it's called gilded it's a

30:13

an identical discord clone all the same

30:15

channels all the same crack on

30:17

hopefully all the same people so it's about four thousand people

30:19

and discard hopefully you'll all here this

30:21

and migrate over the links for both

30:23

of those are no description below along with

30:26

the link a magic link with all the other social

30:28

skills are all change in the video for kicked off

30:30

of emil tweet which fucked

30:32

up a lot of stuff am

30:34

now on you tube anymore because obviously

30:36

for obvious reasons and

30:38

that all the social media that we are on the changes

30:40

all the time i don't have he com and olives that's

30:43

just to let notifications they're both as

30:45

discard and patch and as i wanted

30:48

to know because it's change in man

30:50

the

30:51

the landscape of conspiracy theory is getting

30:53

pretty volatile and i probably was

30:55

somewhat immune because i wasn't an

30:58

extreme right wing fuckin

31:00

the right and the cat don't

31:02

lot of a carnivore yeah like about like wasn't doing

31:04

math doing target was the in like middle of

31:06

the road and apparently middle road is now extremely

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rice some and to be long before go to

31:11

was just posting i'd the us

31:13

be stick with it episode on cassette

31:15

tapes yeah

31:16

vulcan crazy man what's going on

31:18

and am i'm not best

31:21

pleased but i make in the most of what can

31:23

and another community wanted

31:25

follow arm

31:26

the join in undergone support

31:28

because you guys are awesome so gilded

31:31

patron

31:32

the a toppling lincoln

31:35

bio

31:36

super duper magically to have all the rest of the stuff in

31:38

the the killed in the newest episodes anywhere

31:40

on social media and where you can watch other videos which

31:42

gives unchanged

31:47

now let's

31:50

, into this chris was good

31:54

henri of at

31:56

the

31:57

there are next door so in

31:59

august twentieth

31:59

shannon watts that's right you heard

32:02

me sing them that shannon

32:04

the name shannon ah

32:07

it's like up in caddyshack when they're

32:10

chevy chase his partner the balls the

32:12

only sooner isn't something and

32:14

fourteen commodity one

32:17

woman

32:18

before

32:19

the actually shannon and it just didn't

32:22

i didn't have the he paused

32:24

like nine balls narrowed of even look employees given

32:26

sex tips too young boy

32:28

skype only could hear

32:30

when it uses shenzhen and a silicon

32:33

here cnn like like know

32:35

man you're unaware an appearance called a shannon

32:37

and i'm like is this like a girl with call like a lane

32:40

and oh yeah of e l a or yeah

32:42

nice you change the i to a way to be special

32:44

look at our school or you know there's like two guys with the same

32:46

surname among them was on it and albums

32:49

a nap

32:50

the to see him

32:52

fuck that i can we be switch about here

32:54

yeah pick one time they

32:56

admission and was

32:58

was reported missing from her home in

33:00

frederick colorado and that led to a gruesome

33:03

offenses discovery the shocked the world

33:05

when they watched it unfold on the netflix documentary

33:07

that we mentioned earlier on it and the netflix documentary

33:10

the another way into like a american

33:12

murder the finally next door

33:14

where it was revealed a father and husband

33:16

what had murdered

33:18

his wife and children and try to play dumb to the police

33:20

as the investigator her disappearance

33:22

a new documentary coming this year

33:24

called suburban nightmare on the same story

33:27

with a bit of extra detail a ,

33:29

is going to delve deeper into the story on this episode

33:31

we are going to discuss the details of the case

33:33

that were left out of that netflix doc on

33:36

the the fuck and strengthen your pubic

33:38

calling calling fucked up what happened

33:41

i'm

33:42

yeah

33:43

romero don't have to talk about decline of

33:45

mine had to be to do this shit

33:48

why it was left

33:51

the her family decline ago he is everything

33:53

okay and then also loads of stuff

33:56

like one a very hard to

33:58

tie with dust off my

33:59

the

33:59

victim blaming

34:01

there is a whole other side of the discussion

34:04

not didn't anyone deserves to be murdered but there's

34:07

a whole oversight to a discussion like this the

34:10

have to take in all the elements and a super

34:12

hard my not true crime show

34:15

to nice be a victim glamour

34:18

when you're trying to discuss all aspects that was like

34:20

just a hold of taught in your head not

34:23

even to believe them but just to discuss them

34:25

is somehow abhorrent to some people

34:27

to for like you can't even say that i'm i'm like you

34:30

can but you don't have to believe it's true i

34:32

don't have to take it as fact a don't have to the

34:34

don't think that's what it is

34:36

what even just go through maybe this

34:39

is the reason or what i sort

34:41

of

34:42

starboard on of heard this before with like

34:45

regular people's relationships that

34:47

i've known

34:48

these sort of people almost find

34:50

each other yes you know he you'll have a me at

34:52

your like why does this guy keep going out with the same

34:55

type of girl over and over again

34:56

they find each other than that you know it seems

34:59

like the relationship with

35:00

you know when they're sort of issue and always watch

35:02

out messages of it seems weird

35:04

it's just rare not high couple talk to each other

35:07

very like formal almost like they're yes

35:10

in have to trust or an argument is ah yes

35:12

honey that's all good love you babe magnet

35:14

talk like and very false from

35:17

both from both an outsider the

35:20

fact that was

35:21

for me when her about her her life

35:23

was being broadcast on october dunno but

35:26

, are are over share and stuff like that seems

35:29

weirdly manufactured or where the

35:31

artificial and the artificial behavior was very

35:33

duplicitous and suspicious from the outset

35:35

yeah definitely is a couple of things

35:38

got i mean i think like

35:39

obviously

35:40

we have a toxic masculinity there's there's a bit

35:42

of a only like a weakness going

35:44

on with him where you couldn't just

35:46

you know man up and kind of deal

35:49

with it you know like the even police said that websites

35:51

get a divorce and you know but at that usc

35:53

when you know even though say stuff like man up now anymore

35:55

well you know them and oxycontin problem but

35:58

it was just was thing like that

35:59

the hugest

36:01

on a command a mistake sorry you had

36:03

two kids

36:04

that work and i was and mean is not the want to live how

36:07

to control alt delete situation way to so can

36:09

drag your family to recycle bin is

36:11

another sort of psychopath tendency though to be

36:13

like i can't actually just admit

36:15

that i'm

36:17

in the wrong and and sorry

36:19

and i'd love to move on investment account yeah

36:22

and and someone take half your money

36:24

we have with and left so should

36:27

i am was not ready for years of age and by

36:29

all accounts with accounts well liked and acorn

36:31

typical american his wife

36:33

i mean

36:34

the can't do we have really her facebook page

36:37

the your life on social media

36:39

like if i may be so bold as to speak

36:41

ill of the dead

36:42

he will be of an overseer if i'm honest

36:45

especially for the time the two thousand

36:47

and eighteen but she's doing that since two thousand

36:49

and twelve yet that

36:51

quite

36:53

the norm ny yeah people are very

36:55

over share quite a bit of fact that

36:58

forget it has it online is like a more you share

37:00

of your life about are nearly but even

37:02

on your body yeah sure your life and europe

37:04

and your your and colonel or even

37:07

if he to go back of really i do they want

37:09

that's a lot dot sort of open like he

37:12

was always there like stories he was talking

37:14

to the camera vlogs yeah

37:16

it's any old sheppard she could come up with

37:19

dramatizing , life possibly

37:22

that manufacturing content

37:24

she was a housewife

37:26

we're in

37:27

like minor financial difficulty share

37:30

to very young kids the lot of

37:32

that stuff was like there's our new

37:34

house we just move city here's my new

37:36

job as he also worked for like a multi level

37:38

marketing company which is

37:40

like excel in the dream of dream

37:43

this product has changed my life

37:45

i feel so fresh and so clean

37:48

you , my my the house

37:50

was buying and though they would i like i worked my ass

37:52

off and built my first time not like this castle

37:55

behind your yeah but it was it like a timber

37:57

frame and the us all american

37:59

the area is a timber frame and

38:02

shell wit like stolen clad another front

38:04

of us and she like work really hard

38:06

on the telly exactly how much they cost later on

38:09

what like am

38:11

it was just a in the boom as well like

38:13

seat belts before the boom like

38:15

when the ship was gone big and then obviously

38:17

when did the negative equity like some shit was gone

38:19

and behind the scenes none of that was taught to been under documentary

38:22

it was just like look at these two people in

38:24

the at these to be by

38:27

in an idyllic american neighborhood

38:30

of a sudden the man's neck and

38:32

has like ah

38:33

the man i like

38:36

the moon will long time

38:39

and like

38:41

we're given lot of stuff going on

38:43

here era relational malays

38:47

they say would go on on these people were

38:49

not just like happy ,

38:51

for can soak in each other's and that was i haven't

38:53

spoken in a long lingering

38:55

branches lingering lingering in in with a stone

38:57

stream and into the sky late of as a lot of like my

38:59

life is doomed he shouts

39:01

gone on for year hide in

39:03

that as forever yes know enough to and

39:06

you know using chris was

39:08

abhorrent and terrible behavior

39:12

the to sell it as if he's just like a man

39:14

who snapped yeah at once

39:16

the subtext an hour for me either says at

39:19

any point

39:21

the of was straight white males wearing

39:24

long term relationships with kids and mortgages

39:26

knowledge is

39:27

the might just

39:29

the map just kill our wives and

39:32

children

39:33

this the fuck some be the new skirt

39:36

the going to subtext when i watches that

39:38

was was

39:40

the feeling from the don't like from the document harry

39:42

and point of view that was like this man

39:44

our nowhere for the selfish

39:46

reasons and matches bird yeah was

39:49

spoken to knock wood

39:51

brand new post

39:52

that was like a bit of a gore

39:55

these just like okay and he just snapped

39:58

and kill his wife and children and children

39:59

there were brutal horrible way

40:03

that could happen to anybody at any time fear fear

40:05

for their music scary music that music

40:07

linked but a meet you scared night because i watch that sort

40:10

of thing in your mind does would obviously go with

40:12

hop and

40:13

the me

40:15

or i would get the point where i would

40:17

at what will take me to get there are you only think it was because

40:19

ever true crime podcast i watch it garlic

40:22

for can dogs they're all dogs yeah

40:24

but it it it is weird thing to watch angles the

40:26

like your santa the sort of fingerprint

40:28

across yes is like this is just a regular

40:31

guy that snob and in a makes you think like

40:33

shit what would it be for me where would i

40:35

have to go before i would you know killed

40:37

two children you know the

40:39

bachelor the decent thing to they would just be

40:42

disappear and the night and they're like what around the

40:44

crescent like knows like has i

40:46

will be the decent thing they prefer mm

40:48

and eighties and is used a while

40:50

for cigarettes and never come back exact

40:52

it out and kill in the kids and job and i'm a position

40:55

or like what will the patrice o'neill with

40:58

malibu than room is like killer

41:00

or something i can relate what was

41:02

what we were you gonna let you lead in my time you think

41:04

about killing him and

41:06

the like everybody has everybody has it's like you're annoyed murder

41:09

to say that like you think about as even in

41:11

the slightest like the flicker how

41:13

to do it and it's like smother you just met with joker

41:15

is to establish yoda is that you stab

41:17

of glad that like this like for

41:20

universal thought that someone would have especially when

41:22

there's so much true crime content as are so much like

41:25

snapped women who killed the claire

41:27

watches that they can i can

41:29

see her like like

41:31

visibly enjoying as when she was eyeing

41:33

my up across the room kind of going like

41:36

i could do that it's almost you know like

41:38

when it was a you know we're if we're watching like a bill

41:40

burst bachelor louis heat seekers by similar

41:43

yeah man in man sunday i hope to be

41:46

of brave and successful and like it'll

41:48

have it'll

41:49

that guy like she's was a snap

41:51

woman who killed think it's go

41:54

at like one of the days it'll just

41:56

in the fleecing seen everything

41:58

more him more him like

41:59

i could totally get away with

42:02

she's probably just like i'm a guy like what would

42:04

go round has now

42:06

it's a , with a new interferes

42:08

through the spot spot head of my

42:10

lord and ,

42:14

, the phone so i would i actually rent

42:16

a jc be to move this motherfucker

42:19

as i killed him in our kitchen they

42:21

chop them up like a wheel and them up so she

42:23

market what a select a a deafening how

42:25

to kill him down stays with of the kill monsters and never

42:27

given them from the second floor like it would

42:29

have to be like posted to

42:32

the initial other kick me off a cliff or

42:34

, like that if you ever get a regular to

42:36

go to the same cause i like i just make sure

42:39

you include footwear i can say

42:41

like only sleep they slipped his own of old runners

42:43

for they knew i would kill him

42:44

interpreting it would have to be something like

42:47

an incident like a fear confident that would kill them

42:49

the wouldn't kill me

42:51

the some sort of impact djelic on

42:53

do the belt and then pulled we'll were me

42:55

but you know me being like a large study

42:57

man

42:58

i would survive i've been in car crashes

43:01

you know

43:02

nearly with her winfrey it's

43:05

a very m

43:06

covert way and a liquid

43:09

the underwear like

43:11

women

43:12

and to die by suicide

43:14

more gentler ways the man and often

43:16

the attempts are done by women but it's not completed

43:19

whereas men complete suicide an awful as

43:21

a like a we got you again

43:23

girls enough sluggish

43:26

, the airbus the suicide

43:28

that of ams that

43:31

they you know what women tend to do

43:33

with like overdoses or of yeah slugger

43:35

isn't a bad like a drama kind of is so that the

43:37

can be found or as well or were like blow

43:39

to head off with attack on our like jump

43:42

like was idiotic when a rope tied to the rafters

43:44

and then you come in and he's hanging in the land and yeah

43:47

am

43:48

if there's a a huge thing over the last

43:50

ten years of fellows driver hundred fifty

43:52

miles an hour into a wall or a poll

43:55

the like over my drive and in some

43:57

do when like a

43:58

ayrton senna

43:59

avoided a vulcan road because

44:02

, like iodine a car crash he didn't die by

44:04

suicide so life insurance pays i was and on

44:06

a plane crash crash are just like had

44:08

enough is one last ride

44:10

not soil car

44:12

and i'm i'm on her way to look

44:14

of or romeo

44:17

from suffocated foods is the use

44:19

of the oreo move this didn't have a gun jason

44:22

mraz edge sword

44:25

, this year it it

44:28

that taste is he

44:31

now you know it's

44:33

just them

44:35

it just makes no fucking sense that

44:38

the documentary to say he just snapped

44:41

to me

44:43

who just snaps the false and that

44:45

fake that fake news i think a snob

44:47

is the that's sort of psychopath

44:49

tendency to be like

44:51

oh i just it a my mind was made

44:53

yeah whatever whatever get to that point break

44:55

the guys like well whether i want to turn out of

44:58

town but that's the thing that happens with suicide

45:00

as well that people would yellow jersey has given

45:02

away at her stuff listed right not single

45:04

bite people meet people for the last time doing

45:06

like people always either in the best form

45:09

better cinnamon in years that atlanta next know

45:11

their debt because of measured the mastermind of for

45:13

five days before the want to do with under gore and live in

45:15

last moments and that no matter what and

45:17

bank and you're done

45:19

like

45:20

it could be a temporary psychosis

45:22

oh he went through both he's painted as this

45:25

a psychopath into documentary

45:27

deleting is a

45:29

on fair representation other just

45:31

him but of like men in that situation

45:34

where you're like woody snap and kill so it was obviously

45:36

a thing that he decided to do overnight there's

45:38

no discussion of

45:40

like the creeping malays like

45:43

look

45:44

not a fan in a murder i had hussein

45:47

the only

45:49

in the world in a world

45:52

with all the shit going on especially i'm last

45:54

like flavor

45:56

maybe eight years

45:59

the off of

45:59

there to be

46:01

the person

46:02

especially for lot harder to be amount

46:06

it wasn't super easy for like the eighty

46:08

or ninety years before that or maybe three or four years before

46:10

that what is an awful lot of a

46:13

social pressure nail

46:15

fellow to behave in a certain way there's

46:17

a lot a change

46:18

is also coming from the

46:21

economic downturn there's an awful lot of

46:23

financial pressure and the things that was

46:26

quintessentially have been am mail

46:28

responsibility like the income like

46:31

paying the mortgage make sure to bills appear like all of

46:33

that stuff like all the doors

46:35

mail responsibilities have all gone up wilde

46:38

the the social

46:40

related know said the social

46:44

there's a reward for that status

46:46

of calm down

46:47

yeah so the expectations from and still to provide

46:50

are at justify justify in some

46:52

places hire like make his pocket

46:54

third feminine let let let

46:56

their but also object

46:58

gave him for his masculine

47:00

as he by germany that for and

47:03

you know from what i gather in a documentary there was a

47:05

lot of like you know she

47:07

would just go online and be like i

47:10

told him to do this and a sock dot up

47:12

again the like pedal hague likely to lead

47:14

our the lesson and you're like use put not online

47:17

against broadcaster the room that you know that your

47:19

husband is as fuck and useless com basically

47:22

and he's out like work and fifty or sixty

47:24

hours a week on oil rigs and i'll i'll do analyzed

47:26

have a a a red

47:28

making like six grand a month doing this

47:30

oil job and , was a medical

47:33

assistant make and ninety hundred dollars a month

47:35

i like sweaty hot

47:37

and what is it

47:39

man for a big fuck off house that

47:41

you live in colorado driving into the desert

47:43

for an hour every night a good work in in like

47:46

what i'm again this conversation

47:48

this like

47:50

the circumvented from the actual

47:52

murder and actual you know you're

47:54

like aliases the people in the gays das

47:57

treatments

47:58

over a long period of time

47:59

that when somebody finally comes along

48:02

like hey i really fancy at know he told

48:04

that did this mistrust of he had he told

48:07

her a bunch of lies he told he was already

48:09

at the divorce he told us the unlike that on him

48:11

born in san is like

48:13

there's a desert

48:15

the purposeful

48:17

the censorship of the information against

48:20

a murderer

48:21

situations the porsche the

48:23

bed the environment , put

48:25

him in the mindset to do this it just didn't happen

48:28

overnight and it never does there's

48:30

always a to and an all these shows it's always a come

48:32

from and child or some for the psychopathy or something

48:35

that grow like no one born a marginal

48:37

children were i got got know

48:39

you might start in a place where if post foreign

48:41

of you would get there an idea

48:43

know and i think it just from watching a documentary

48:46

say like

48:47

he looked like he was and not sort a position

48:49

where he had a lot of these like

48:51

the

48:53

amd feelings were you like this is a for

48:55

the gone away i was is a lifetime commitment with

48:57

her there's a lifetime came with a heist the

48:59

kids ceased dennis weird

49:01

fuckin you know oh and everyone our business

49:04

type shit talking shit so i have

49:06

to perform

49:07

you know like you can just as you can sort of like

49:10

shit on my reputation to everybody

49:12

and i have to the set unlike performed perfectly

49:15

or else i'm just as useless

49:17

we will

49:19

american the mindset of a dude who's

49:21

not like he hadn't been

49:23

molested or interfered with as a young child

49:26

he hadn't been

49:27

this like terribly abusive household

49:29

where murder or death or even

49:31

like dehumanization true like

49:33

alcoholism or drug abuse or any

49:36

kind of like

49:37

hooper heavy young psychological

49:39

damage was done that would allow

49:42

him to dehumanize somebody enough to to do

49:44

what he did to kill them in that way

49:46

it was relatively normal guy

49:49

the only option

49:51

the he was life with instead of like a divorce

49:54

and the financial ramifications of all about

49:56

stuff

49:57

the the die

49:58

you choose to

49:59

the dice on getting caught for a triple murder

50:03

the kill his wife and kids to offer

50:05

the new be the skirt

50:06

what pushes a man to

50:09

, and do that is what times as fuck and

50:11

weird is nester it is always

50:13

trying related like you know i am trying to relate

50:15

to them at my own we both really insensitive

50:17

commonly are trying to say like hey hey

50:20

know she got murders you muslim and for can caucus visit

50:22

to like doesn't want i'm sam i'm trying to trying

50:25

to left that pause

50:27

live

50:28

the goal like one

50:31

porsche mad

50:32

never had murder on the menu

50:34

yeah i to go into dash i

50:36

think it's just like

50:38

the ultimately

50:40

you probably couldn't see another way i'd really

50:42

people say that run it with a descent turning

50:45

order way out on a lock on so tragic

50:47

the only one person losing their life he just did

50:50

like a reverse suicide on a family

50:52

yeah he did like man and black like to yeah

50:54

can i bring this beers tall guy on that you know i've

50:56

i've tried to think that we both have young kids

50:59

you know

51:01

i always think like are what if something went horribly

51:03

wrong here in this marriage

51:05

like i could even fuck it like it has to live in the guards

51:07

i'd have to be

51:09

close

51:10

you know yeah further for my son

51:12

even though it may be hugely uncomfortable to

51:15

be near like your like your your

51:17

ex wife or whatever but you're like he could

51:19

you know this point you like it was so fucking

51:22

it's so involved with everything in the caden

51:24

or lives in everything like even if we massively

51:26

fail i

51:27

you know i would just you take it on the channel

51:30

be like rebel we have the fucking just still get through this is

51:32

that and you're like i'm not moving away i'm going to fucking drive

51:34

from florida get a old as fuck and they were there are

51:36

thirty your hair or helped your know that similar

51:38

to that he says yeah it but like yes

51:41

it's so it's so extreme

51:43

so so extra to think about

51:45

it that way like would push you that

51:48

like a practice social pressure all the prices

51:50

are just go instead of

51:52

the divorce her take a half and join costly

51:54

into blaber like people on online

51:57

as reading all of these at a newspaper

51:59

articles always

51:59

they play i target and in all like to read a post

52:02

on the either forget animal he's a monster

52:05

he didn't care but his kids he's his own

52:07

feeling all those lists but obviously just loads

52:09

of videos i'm loving the kids being course but

52:11

that's where five and three and he spent all

52:13

of those years and all that time be in their parents

52:15

and work and hired everyday to bring

52:17

home money to have them

52:19

let them have a lot of week man know if

52:22

that's not a monster movie is a good whole jordan

52:24

peterson thing that that's not a monster would that

52:27

are not a monster the guise of fog and beaten

52:30

don't like broken wake guy

52:32

he fucking

52:33

there was a total psychopath or

52:35

didn't see another way

52:37

and that's what he had do like

52:39

you know like a real fucking monster would be like

52:41

you deal with it and you get a better job

52:43

and you provide better and you fucking one up to it

52:45

and saw and you try and improve on

52:47

i will be like monster be of you hear this guy that

52:49

that is obsolete weakness

52:52

when i'm not big at the end of the tether like to be

52:54

like yeah but in the last choice like

52:56

that the no option left kill

52:58

everybody like control out believes that again

53:01

what do you think about that thing as and about like the

53:03

pressures of my we don't want were too long as the

53:05

how to make it into the children wants bullet what

53:07

do you think of it doesn't go santa bush

53:10

the project a man well it is area

53:12

and it's you know there there was a rising

53:15

popular recently intellect normalization

53:18

of like talking about mental health and the toxic

53:20

masculinity analysts here there's

53:22

stuff a man should be taught the show their emotions

53:24

when the younger and baba

53:27

it's it's all well and good it

53:30

is definitely hard

53:32

have any weakness or show any weakness in

53:35

front of like yours

53:37

spice i think as think as

53:39

fire toxic my masculinity yeah it's

53:41

not attractive at all

53:43

having dipping their telling this is yet to get which

53:45

which are feminine side and you have to you have

53:47

to come closer to the middle you can be so

53:49

my thing can be for separate you can't be so desperate

53:52

and on emotionally have to be more men

53:54

have to be more feminine that i think in

53:56

do when of that

53:58

in a in that scene

53:59

the seen as a weakness in the

54:02

masculine mind

54:04

that i feel as to talk the path because we're forced

54:06

to

54:07

organ

54:09

mattress forced to go against like our

54:11

on

54:14

natural compulsions to compete

54:16

in to that's all bullshit

54:19

the to compete that that part of

54:21

it that you know like

54:23

i should yeah give everybody a model a lot

54:25

sort of get mad the medal shit like everyone's

54:28

around and boswell i don't think everyone's eagle

54:30

i don't think everyone should guess

54:31

the get like the same treatment or get him a winning

54:33

medals like winners are winners and if you're not a winner

54:36

today and to be winner

54:38

the cuban try and if everyone's a winner never find your

54:40

own winning sport

54:42

whatever it is a make up a sport

54:44

the couple

54:47

the road but really for glass

54:49

be be aware as happy that are also gunmen of

54:51

sport budget mitten you know maybe the toxic

54:54

masculinity issue that needs dealt with

54:56

and has been shot of lately with murders

55:00

of women in the street in broad

55:02

daylight from fucking reason

55:04

guys need to like could it be if that

55:06

guy had have made his bed and thought

55:08

about the lobster like

55:10

, would have a sub the murdered someone the memories

55:12

myburgh in early may be didn't know in ireland and and

55:15

as a town in the middle of cult or the more it

55:17

was a woman called actually murphy a believer

55:19

name was as she was running and of like how

55:21

forney them before sundown and

55:23

the guy just came up on a bike in some dot bike and

55:26

and attacked her subject bits and killer

55:28

a then ran off yeah a a

55:31

it was choked or stub have choked her to that actually

55:33

don't think children that and then and

55:35

then ran off on a they ended

55:37

up finding them and it was like was crazy story

55:41

that kind of like rattled of media caters

55:43

for

55:45

a day maybe a week

55:47

there and own always us what it really is like is

55:49

on the news anymore it was never any follow up it's

55:51

just another story

55:53

bullet was like the biggest thing to happen in the whole country

55:55

when it happened a few weeks ago yeah and that was kind

55:57

like

55:58

not be known about it no laws

56:01

to changed it's just like everyone

56:03

felt the that i'm and the emotion and

56:05

into the harder it's hard to like

56:09

holy that sort of completely

56:11

crazy sporadic attack canada

56:13

you will it was a man and that's a whole issue

56:15

as well yeah but you

56:17

did i was aware you can't broadcast

56:20

to the wider male population

56:22

that

56:23

like you know all of you are potentially

56:26

rapists and murderers how dare you

56:28

be

56:29

like enough in some people's minds

56:31

at least

56:32

and actually from the mainstream media's messaging

56:35

every man as a potential murderer

56:37

slash rapist flash attacker and at the

56:39

at the very least slash subjugate

56:42

her first act

56:44

companies couldn't complicit hint of

56:46

the patriarchy like cooperate

56:48

or of oppression and at that out

56:51

a very base level like even long standing

56:53

still every single man benefited

56:55

some was from just being a man

56:57

which is already like an original sin

56:59

like a crime of

57:01

the being

57:02

and i think that's a really shit way of

57:05

categories and everybody and

57:07

i did a bit material recently where i am

57:10

shortly after that attack and i brought it up once

57:12

and saying you bring it up on the edge or like it there

57:14

there have been women killed in a talk recently

57:17

like

57:18

and you're like

57:20

when i'm going to delve into here is the fact that at

57:22

that at the time my wife said you know

57:25

such a backhanded compliment your like were

57:27

lucky that we have a big man

57:31

walk in abide with us or in the house with us

57:33

or whatever you

57:35

know it is sort of like a privilege

57:37

to be a bag and sheikh at the another joke

57:39

is that she just keeps elaborate like elaborate big ugly

57:42

fuck and wide box wine of a man that no

57:45

one's really got north ave it rip you know remainder

57:47

we feel safe when i got like by the time the

57:49

murder of a fucking you know finish

57:51

like salmon all the different paths here flashes

57:53

be so tired of he loved no energy left to stab

57:55

the women and children in the house yes but it is not

57:57

saying of like you know it's know

58:00

it's toxic

58:01

the you know it going man or fucking killers and until

58:03

you fucking need wonder

58:05

stand aside un the gop your

58:07

lowboy enough tic have been lit to

58:09

like i said the expectations are

58:11

still just as high honor percent that be

58:13

economy of masculinity is

58:16

tanking

58:17

you know that the the expectations

58:20

the value of a man

58:22

is still very high expectations very high

58:24

the the outpost is still very high

58:27

what like

58:28

the market value and

58:30

eleven reputation is very very low

58:32

it's like ads remember when tommy hilfiger

58:35

used to be the fuck and most awesome

58:37

like genes jumpers all of us have

58:39

super expensive and until all

58:41

the african

58:42

you know for just say lower socio

58:45

economic class david robin and shit

58:47

south africa and will wash and lanes and

58:49

in day where where and i'm in the streets and true and it was

58:51

like of on up for them to spend two

58:53

hundred quinoa tommy hilfiger number when doesn't

58:57

you know the junkie down the street where in the same

58:59

jumper at as the family like affleck

59:01

runners as know he lays jagger

59:03

that north a sag of canadian goose and

59:06

which eagles and they're going to scan they can

59:08

eating i target tell your and a scenario

59:11

where you need a jacket and it's fucking

59:13

freezing here and nothing else does the job

59:16

it's almost like you gotta you gotta do y'all

59:18

i'm the sort of traditional

59:20

the know

59:21

masculine shit

59:23

secretly it's like a concealed carry of

59:26

like mask it's like it's

59:28

, assists literally like fuckin superman you got

59:30

a suburban like i'm just a normal

59:32

guy until we need to fog and like ribbed

59:34

as soon as i think that's the jujitsu

59:36

the ultimate because i've done a better jujitsu it's

59:39

the ultimate fuckin you know it's better to

59:41

that not made it here you know

59:44

the needed not have it and you look around

59:46

and years like is full of fucking comic book nerd

59:48

that would or straggly to death and it's a great way

59:51

to be and strings enough the

59:53

nice community you get some

59:55

vault yeah because they don't fuck

59:57

around cause they could all of you know at

59:59

any

59:59

and choke you to death

1:00:01

and they're all talking about fucking comics

1:00:03

and like they are as painless logan dungeons dragons

1:00:06

late january the camorra and you're like me

1:00:08

vulcan if hyper expand the me elbows

1:00:10

yeah exactly it's the same with is

1:00:12

the same mentality i presume a concealed carry

1:00:15

like if you're gone and takes us you

1:00:17

know that like you're not going to full grown as they're pushing

1:00:19

some caught the by on seiser no

1:00:21

problem go ahead

1:00:23

but i come on the back in like but

1:00:25

, you if it if you have a a and

1:00:28

inflated sense of cell somewhere

1:00:30

i get your act of hyper masculine

1:00:32

homer or and then the next thing

1:00:34

some comic book nerd comes in he just like

1:00:37

it's your claim on lies that always you're short

1:00:39

me at his can often a night club or something

1:00:41

else

1:00:42

that the other toxified of a dentist the

1:00:44

toxic locating toxic masculinity is been

1:00:46

like taken over put on people

1:00:49

like the chris weitz as like the the

1:00:51

oh the the the lads who cool voice

1:00:54

in a shippers after to poll bar

1:00:57

you know that the fellow who's like actor hard

1:00:59

to his wife and talk a shit and pushing around the plasma

1:01:01

like sure that socks

1:01:03

lord of other parts of it other toxic

1:01:05

that are really quiet

1:01:07

an insidious and under the under

1:01:09

the table real toxic bit over days

1:01:13

they sort of got to the bottom of the guys

1:01:15

don't talk to each other open

1:01:17

you know a guy should meet maybe it maybe it looks way to

1:01:19

go to your bicycle i really do feel good

1:01:22

when you should be able to set up your me at any kind of deal

1:01:24

with it i mean shannon here is literally

1:01:27

you know just woken up a sammy was

1:01:30

tackling harm it yeah this guy will fuck

1:01:32

man fucking useless piece of shit just since

1:01:34

like an inept shall get ready for bet you know it's i guess

1:01:36

that's how much she was share him after watching me

1:01:38

guess is not look i'm out the coat

1:01:40

which is also very like you know

1:01:42

very over sherry but not even a wish a very

1:01:44

like presumptions you know like that is so

1:01:47

i thought get hot a shower for those motherfuckers

1:01:49

and of a spell will bind make everybody

1:01:53

, how can how

1:01:55

other and as fuck and birch is

1:01:57

get much smarter their do forgive

1:01:59

me

1:01:59

preferably chemical people sleep

1:02:02

early ah jesus christ but it's just

1:02:04

it's just a it boggles my mind how

1:02:06

can go from like

1:02:09

painted the picture painted of a man

1:02:11

a lovely wife and two beautiful children

1:02:14

the has a jobs what more could you want

1:02:16

then all of a sudden he just killed

1:02:18

them to figure out well and like that's

1:02:20

not the whole entering

1:02:22

it is because he killed his family that that

1:02:24

so extreme it was held a lancer live

1:02:26

in a frail anyway in the pre murder situation

1:02:29

who have no intention of murder no intention of violence

1:02:31

at all

1:02:32

after

1:02:35

the to live that life without murdering

1:02:37

your wife and children the have all those

1:02:39

feelings and keep all those thoughts i'm

1:02:41

not be able to get the how many people are living like that

1:02:43

lots

1:02:44

hawking lords do not have windows

1:02:46

of that you're in the day

1:02:48

don't just live like obviously

1:02:50

like you know it comes in waves there

1:02:52

might be sometimes you like super busy enough some the

1:02:54

doing your time with your family and

1:02:56

you forget forgot the do something and it's all

1:02:58

happening and you go

1:03:00

did you to be fucking an apartment by myself

1:03:03

first let's agony think that and then you like now but

1:03:05

it is much better more or

1:03:07

yeah i like i'm a i'm an

1:03:10

advocate studio in a locked door and medicinal

1:03:13

purposes of soundproof lot

1:03:15

about the same

1:03:18

thing think date know but the statistic things

1:03:20

like how many people live in that life which is not

1:03:22

even contemplate murdered like opponents

1:03:24

are still rogan coated every liquid were live in a

1:03:26

were think we're live think a blast like like you were taught entertainers

1:03:29

like we don't have what we got wouldn't fuck and miners

1:03:31

are oil refiners like we're not you know you

1:03:33

have to drive an hour out into the desert out get the already hub

1:03:36

facility of of hub total

1:03:38

ruin on as if i compile got every

1:03:40

bastard and episode is like

1:03:42

who ever said i called most men live

1:03:44

lives of quiet desperation care a

1:03:46

lot of people are to and ninety eighty

1:03:49

five the said they do in a day is day

1:03:52

they have to do you know you all have no

1:03:54

eighty five percent nationally go every like an obligation

1:03:56

i have to do his job centres you they have to do

1:03:58

at it i

1:03:59

i stay or but my time and will

1:04:02

you do me murder reading and

1:04:04

then i might get like thirty nine i'd honey

1:04:06

forty minutes of a computer game while everybody else

1:04:08

in the house is asleep is like to between two and three

1:04:10

am

1:04:11

they forgo sleep

1:04:13

the be able to have that trying to do the thing on interrupted

1:04:15

the they wanted to myself and of the

1:04:17

like you're paying for somewhere new

1:04:20

we move on our ipad

1:04:23

the conversation they would have for another hour and we

1:04:25

take all this if we had a time when we had inclination

1:04:27

i i don't have the education

1:04:30

the have any more of of to to mean anything

1:04:32

to anybody and i know

1:04:34

for a fact

1:04:36

there are people out there to the business or last twenty

1:04:38

minutes gone

1:04:39

those want to focus on making excuses for

1:04:41

a murderer are

1:04:43

those motherfuckers or quinsey beaches

1:04:45

are

1:04:47

wonderful today know about masculinity

1:04:49

slash femininity slash you

1:04:51

know gender politics less that

1:04:53

little bit the the don't lie to talk

1:04:55

about a quarter gentle sciences but with

1:04:58

but this is the think we're to students in rome

1:05:00

have a talk with that level of knowledge that we

1:05:02

have yeah which is like i would think i'm

1:05:04

a buffer little bit above the average bear let's be

1:05:06

honest we bread and watch a lot of stuff on

1:05:09

a three

1:05:10

there were talking about a dude who

1:05:13

the border to have snapped when

1:05:15

i'm telling you and i will tell

1:05:17

you have to show was on p didn't just slap

1:05:19

this is a long time kalanders lot of shit the lead up

1:05:21

to this i don't like am

1:05:24

the want to call a propaganda but the blanket

1:05:27

media media

1:05:29

landscape that all men are

1:05:32

potentially

1:05:33

the murders violent rapists and murderers

1:05:36

yeah just went to happen

1:05:38

vulcan bullshit

1:05:40

we abhor that thought there's

1:05:43

a lotta people are like yeah

1:05:46

the me wrong like i am proven

1:05:48

wrong everyday when i don't rape and murder

1:05:50

people will upset everyday improving your

1:05:52

own you know you can have whatever pen you want them whatever

1:05:54

we just sat there for the last like twenty minutes

1:05:57

in reality we snapback to legalize

1:06:00

you be awful family lovely hi it's it's

1:06:02

it's all back to normal

1:06:04

you're a nice guy i think that i'm a nice guy

1:06:06

surround myself with lovely people

1:06:10

it's ground

1:06:11

matter with the thing

1:06:14

then yeah i said the my wife and me the way advice

1:06:16

not really work a night and really get in shape

1:06:19

that way w

1:06:21

, particular shall be bonus for night he

1:06:24

sep shall be boehner skinner box or to

1:06:26

i'm going to are like i see where

1:06:28

i was watching the was like magic mike isn't my taxes

1:06:30

that are the kind of body

1:06:32

i i don't attract of her like atlanta

1:06:35

that way zeppelin reason to the various

1:06:37

as if you say you're done some days are over

1:06:39

here as even with and kemalist that

1:06:41

the have the so look at baffling

1:06:44

and whether and whether with you learn how to me moink attack

1:06:47

i do think that you were possibly ,

1:06:50

what one of the best examples i know in real life of

1:06:53

a quote unquote

1:06:54

hard working man

1:06:56

like you don't want the and up break and blocks do not

1:06:58

like lay and pipe well not not

1:07:00

when you're not like if if if

1:07:02

if if if you're , my wife

1:07:06

you're not like sitting on a scaffolding

1:07:09

their full can learn roof tiles

1:07:11

in roof tiles at like that

1:07:13

what like you're a folk a hard worker

1:07:17

there's not toxic about you

1:07:19

what like people can listen to the things he is and

1:07:21

the dosage make and the flanks en route

1:07:23

and i just think it's not on like it did that

1:07:25

did to chatter we to be than i would to show people coming

1:07:27

and got the same thing like are you guys are fuckin

1:07:30

yeah your attitude towards women have these

1:07:33

are , marshals little the government would

1:07:35

we should be allowed to have those conversations have

1:07:37

those opinions and gold

1:07:39

the only what is it any wonder like

1:07:41

other but in reality my whole fucking life as well

1:07:44

my wife my yeah my

1:07:46

sister she might you know she is

1:07:49

of three sister in law's if we live very

1:07:51

close them other like it's and it's

1:07:53

only when you're older

1:07:55

the woman here

1:07:56

the all curtain

1:07:58

yeah martin

1:08:01

hard as fan side we met to murder

1:08:03

your fucking family overs but just like

1:08:05

the not the worst like open for amateurs block

1:08:08

you know what i guess things but like in reality it's

1:08:10

like that's what it is for think about demanding your life of

1:08:12

your home in the center the thing with them and in your life from go

1:08:14

like comerica can it is only way that they

1:08:16

can like engage you in a conversation about

1:08:19

it's like to be man lately

1:08:21

like like i know i'm going through some shit

1:08:23

the you want recently

1:08:24

sure i'm sure everybody who's listen to

1:08:27

his at the moment especially with the last two years

1:08:29

behind us is going to some shit the

1:08:31

provider be as it

1:08:33

are you know a her household stabilizer like

1:08:36

very hard to have ahead and

1:08:39

speaking of the miles gonna make have taken unless like to be

1:08:41

woman but any as man

1:08:43

the the man

1:08:44

the look remover

1:08:47

the human i'm like to i feel

1:08:49

over share on social media

1:08:51

than am

1:08:52

do the space of that

1:08:54

facebook video became very popular to doesn't

1:08:56

twelve thirteen fourteen people started getting

1:08:59

better and better mobile devices like i

1:09:01

phones i pods and people consume content

1:09:04

like

1:09:05

but also with the we

1:09:07

cameras get better in the phones people were created that content

1:09:10

a lot the advent of instagram

1:09:12

not as and then like people side

1:09:14

of you to am a huge who became less

1:09:16

of a

1:09:17

a big production as it was in like

1:09:19

two thousand and eight nine ten eleven two

1:09:21

thousand and twelve of those new i phones the

1:09:23

attorney i phone earlier certain you're on you tube and

1:09:25

he had you to challenge kids on opening up for

1:09:28

can toys and shit like that it became easy

1:09:30

to broadcast yourself and then

1:09:32

facebook lies then one

1:09:34

of the greatest inventions of all humanity and also wanted

1:09:37

was great bands like

1:09:38

they were going live on hi guys i'm alive just

1:09:41

want a cilia i'm just making some bones here's the recipe

1:09:43

and just people shouting wix

1:09:46

spewing bullshit into the void that

1:09:49

button sofa it's like a four thousand

1:09:51

people filament the same concert

1:09:54

on a mobile phone

1:09:56

who is that for no one is everyone watches

1:09:59

the you are never going away

1:09:59

that again and i mean it isn't any the people

1:10:02

weren't they

1:10:03

it's not a good know quality for them to enjoys

1:10:05

and anyway why filament why not

1:10:07

just like enjoy yourself out as they were thousand people

1:10:10

the honest life as a social anxiety

1:10:12

for this bananas bananas and it's action

1:10:14

on was definitely like a prime example

1:10:16

of that am generational a

1:10:19

social social media

1:10:21

tornado the took everybody

1:10:23

up and

1:10:25

he had a multi level with muslim

1:10:27

american like issue facing business

1:10:29

and a lot of these people made a place where themselves

1:10:31

online using facebook and instagram

1:10:34

a instead of like a proper website it was kind

1:10:36

of almost a

1:10:37

any of your cheaper ways that of making

1:10:40

your own domain and making your own kind

1:10:43

squarespace b blah blah blah blah

1:10:45

this and two thousand and twelve and thirteen and fourteen people

1:10:47

have those businesses and you just have your page on facebook

1:10:49

and people follow you

1:10:51

facebook is really the and

1:10:53

am to nine shared everything from her life

1:10:55

from like lengthy testimonials about suffering

1:10:58

from lupus and all other

1:10:59

procedures and the side effects all

1:11:01

at lupus awareness she had a group online

1:11:04

add to the in her kids milestones as the grew

1:11:06

up you've taken pictures of them like in

1:11:09

the bat in his teens and die burn

1:11:11

the little bit kind of over sherry like idol

1:11:13

if i put pictures of my what his lip a child

1:11:15

lupus is over an awful immune

1:11:17

to do we have a does it go by the same

1:11:19

name and this parliament i don't they

1:11:23

don't i'd have i think it is your lupus yeah well it's

1:11:25

own never heard of anybody with lupus of is

1:11:27

what does the glandular fever some it's

1:11:29

an autoimmune disease the feels like a slew

1:11:31

of could be like glandular fever you are like

1:11:33

not knowing monolith glandular fever to

1:11:36

call it mano a mano at

1:11:38

lucas has lucas different thing and that it's

1:11:40

not immune disease affects the lymph nodes and

1:11:42

that affects the

1:11:45

the screen and your your your

1:11:48

your blows basically you feel like you have the flu your

1:11:50

run down tire has like outlet

1:11:52

when he

1:11:56

added up to ever to have to lupus

1:11:58

oh so the apparently it's them

1:11:59

like pretty debilitating like eating

1:12:02

a the indian about of us and just focus to

1:12:04

get a the bad kind of i can die as aids

1:12:07

oh he had zero yeah they they probably

1:12:09

going to other the elder elders

1:12:12

of none of the sugar and others are the

1:12:14

same great scabs

1:12:16

so yes he shared

1:12:18

all the kids like milestones and all that you know

1:12:20

the first steps in her first thing

1:12:22

and songs and record i'm gonna sing a song

1:12:24

for daddy the such as for daddy it's

1:12:27

for every for can count on facebook any like

1:12:29

ah

1:12:31

what will you would you like take pictures

1:12:33

of of your kid like do in like stuff

1:12:35

and put an online and in and twenty years when he's

1:12:37

like

1:12:38

and tractors and you look for

1:12:40

your kind of taken his autonomous republic

1:12:43

i wouldn't put up and you my daughter because

1:12:45

like when she thirties like want to suck

1:12:47

for their that were you put video see how funneling

1:12:50

for that was a celebrity there recently that

1:12:52

was like am you know like don't put anything obama

1:12:54

children because anything don't have their permission that isn't

1:12:56

their as lot of people as and i was like yeah makes

1:12:59

sense like put up little bits here

1:13:01

and there but i don't wanna like

1:13:04

where share with the kid if someone like particularly

1:13:06

kids have grown up is one picture

1:13:08

whatever by and want to be set narrow

1:13:10

like and from i for like

1:13:12

five minutes plan with a child

1:13:15

the night and and that kind of what's your name is bill and she

1:13:17

was a the documents you

1:13:19

see if you different examples of it where she was

1:13:21

them making tracing sounds for

1:13:23

daddy she's making

1:13:25

they were making cakes and that she was like get them declined

1:13:27

to perform as you would for you know

1:13:29

that give you a hug i get over the over the over

1:13:31

to call the have like your face times of cranny

1:13:34

and granddad of stuff like that we're like say

1:13:36

hi to vinyl exactly is it's the sort of like

1:13:38

private videos that you

1:13:41

we do not all day long and like a family i

1:13:43

was op group or look at the baby they're like a big that

1:13:45

we do that all day she just wanted i'd everyone

1:13:48

everybody and am

1:13:51

the even so much like was one of

1:13:53

i think for can hell man it's gosh

1:13:55

the man is online like agenda

1:13:58

reveal parties

1:13:59

or

1:13:59

a gender reveals are

1:14:02

a pregnancy announcements are proposal

1:14:06

so embryo the oh gather

1:14:09

wanna marry you and

1:14:11

, a fuck i'm bruno my or song and had like flash

1:14:14

mobs and schiller people proposal like

1:14:16

remember clearly said one of our son

1:14:20

ever

1:14:21

the some public like that to me

1:14:23

for can pull your screwed him off

1:14:26

like a paper towel in a public bathroom like how

1:14:28

dare don't ever

1:14:30

headed by or something they want to shared

1:14:32

want to make spectacle of us because other people

1:14:34

are watches doesn't make it anymore specialty you i

1:14:36

dunno i

1:14:38

don't think so not at all the people you know there's a

1:14:40

lot of like

1:14:42

people will be thinking of that element of

1:14:44

it before they even go for like they're twenty weeks com

1:14:46

or something are we gonna tell the world can

1:14:48

you fucking shell out for two seconds they make

1:14:50

sure this baby like baby like your past

1:14:52

twelve weeks at surely you're telling your

1:14:54

husband before twelve weeks

1:14:56

the going to like i know be accepted thing

1:14:59

you don't tell anyone for the first trimester just in case

1:15:01

that happens when you have to do a whole that

1:15:03

you know miscarriage , live

1:15:06

gone like like middle class

1:15:08

clown class like if feel

1:15:10

like what the fuck howdy howdy up spin

1:15:12

that if you're after telling like when i don't have

1:15:14

enough your followers that shoot the to

1:15:17

like oh my god he came inside me last

1:15:19

my fingers crossed anywhere in like over the gonna

1:15:21

bet when just shredded cheese or go and like oops i did

1:15:23

it again and he still is still for contributing

1:15:25

your leg or whatever and in a world where you know

1:15:27

gender is so you know

1:15:29

fluid disappearing by the second he

1:15:32

still it emmy there should be you know pink

1:15:34

blue and then have some other fucking silver

1:15:36

in the middle of the later gonna be as gonna be surprise

1:15:40

motherfucker transracial

1:15:43

theatrical it's fraud species

1:15:45

twelve o'clock you motherfucker follow up

1:15:48

a fuss about fuss and

1:15:50

it's

1:15:51

and you could all be saved

1:15:53

you know

1:15:54

the gotta go nuts in the guy doing that sort of

1:15:57

you know diana

1:15:59

even for college like forgive

1:16:02

liberal go back to work you put like the city

1:16:04

here to member that i think the

1:16:06

impairment on your show that because the california

1:16:08

wildfires because of a tender of feel better

1:16:11

have you ever heard a couple of stories like i'm like how to

1:16:14

them for your workers that went out to be like up slicker

1:16:17

yeah a pink upping

1:16:18

what what you gotta think flesh torture

1:16:20

as a slayer nine or something

1:16:23

like that the pink flair got started like shot

1:16:25

in the in the of dollars vs

1:16:27

don't damage from california wife i like

1:16:30

stop them to stop like nobody

1:16:32

to you're asking everybody covance agenda

1:16:34

reveal tidy you basically go on like

1:16:37

we saw three white lines on on

1:16:39

the on the scam liquid s when you saw

1:16:41

your kids like

1:16:42

little little balls on the scan viewed

1:16:45

as a yes i will go on a yeah i'm i'm raskin

1:16:47

the scan allergist

1:16:49

the the vulcans contact the

1:16:51

jelly in the the

1:16:53

the jelly dispenser woman fit am

1:16:56

that

1:16:57

the water like a sure she's

1:16:59

like yeah no it's a girl the straight lines

1:17:02

i like he sure does not little bollixed is not little

1:17:04

is , way to throw their knowledge but instead of the

1:17:06

guys guys devices

1:17:09

another the say that lives in a fan of

1:17:11

overlooks i like i wanted a boy i was because i can't

1:17:13

i find a very hard to relate my emotions

1:17:15

and of like are known as girl and after learned

1:17:18

to work my most

1:17:19

or sam

1:17:20

these guys have no emotion oh well i didn't

1:17:23

at a time through various reasons but

1:17:25

like air

1:17:26

no when that it was a girl

1:17:29

we didn't hell are close family even

1:17:31

for i think that elect

1:17:33

thirty two weeks later

1:17:35

the going to the baby was any by me than sale

1:17:37

against on the garden said yes a baby yes

1:17:40

but we didn't want to let the general because you

1:17:42

know that's a private thing and he's more focus

1:17:44

at like twenty weeks are gonna

1:17:46

yes like we just get the fuck

1:17:48

an amniocentesis and then we just spent an

1:17:50

eighty dollars on a balloon that's gonna explode

1:17:53

like blue confetti or

1:17:56

put our a blue even worked with when you

1:17:58

get the gender of the doctor any go into the bill

1:17:59

shop and you don't have you done even

1:18:02

tell me just giving a balloon we find as and then you bring a

1:18:04

blue home

1:18:05

and then you learn how to the un amigo blue

1:18:07

cool a killer bullshit a you know

1:18:09

i've heard a story where like a couple went in and a friend

1:18:12

with her

1:18:13

the nurse would like

1:18:15

and he ran off

1:18:17

to the fucking kick shopper whatever

1:18:20

by the the get the appropriate colored

1:18:23

the it doesn't do

1:18:25

the whole business in their gender of the building than this

1:18:27

year they're doing the cake pops okay

1:18:30

personnel take a bite and like a normal

1:18:33

normal and it's almost like almost blue

1:18:35

and like know as know as like or whatever

1:18:38

the trying to figure it like which which

1:18:40

one it is there was one where at

1:18:43

the had a balloon and somebody

1:18:45

some

1:18:46

the little the younger child was already

1:18:48

a born says maybe three years of age and

1:18:50

the mortar was pregnant again and that the three

1:18:52

year old toddler came up and was like poland

1:18:54

that the mask art and the my went around to smack

1:18:56

or as as he let go of the balloon the costs eighty

1:18:58

dollars that was bigger than the focus

1:19:01

small tickets handle that

1:19:03

, to smack into three year old in front of the whole family

1:19:05

got we usually have an agenda of

1:19:07

this that and a balloon like flows

1:19:09

off into the sky elect what y y

1:19:12

y y y

1:19:14

u the one that one is that the for

1:19:16

can york the you turn on the upon the

1:19:18

confetti kind of yeah and are surely children

1:19:20

to balls as you these other interfaces

1:19:23

yeah

1:19:24

the internet plate and that you just can't you just

1:19:26

want the attention for whatever for this

1:19:28

was chenin was doing this yes before it

1:19:30

was cool

1:19:32

he would do and gender reveal he was doing one

1:19:34

of the video

1:19:35

particularly irked me

1:19:38

they're am she did the eu plate

1:19:40

is again two hundred lingered on and

1:19:42

she has a camera secretly recorded

1:19:45

coming into the kitchen

1:19:47

embark from work just back from where where they

1:19:49

as she handed them a pregnancy test and just

1:19:52

with and unfair

1:19:54

and recorded like possibly one of the most

1:19:56

intimate moments the couple

1:19:58

could have yeah

1:19:59

like was going to cry he realized camera

1:20:02

was on i'm like totally takes

1:20:04

away from the authenticity the moment cause

1:20:06

the grounds if he wanted to cry if he wanted hat

1:20:08

like i have and it was all recorded

1:20:11

probably would like livestream

1:20:13

they don't offer was at live streamed the tag

1:20:15

on the reaction is

1:20:17

over the top a tuesday like fake

1:20:20

like wheat we i tried to like film one

1:20:22

time we got them

1:20:23

the after our web and public gotten more and parents

1:20:26

with the help of a lot and we it

1:20:28

was com up to their anniversary and

1:20:29

recreated their honeymoon

1:20:32

we got them tickets the like paris

1:20:35

the optimal

1:20:36

no paid for everything basically flights to tell

1:20:38

a lot shit am i was a little up we

1:20:40

elect not like incendiary devices the back ancestry

1:20:43

buckler blu b into reality as you cod

1:20:45

or landscape know what i just that

1:20:47

give it to demonise maximizing this gabi grip

1:20:50

and the reality as they go what is it

1:20:53

like target and

1:20:56

, not the big for they don't throw it in the air

1:20:58

are trying trying say i'm pretty sure

1:21:00

the same thing happen with when where and how to me like

1:21:02

a pregnancy test i think she just she

1:21:04

city like the leg

1:21:07

have been so much that , was

1:21:09

like oh if they go to that one and i might have

1:21:11

you know wasn't like a fucking eruption of

1:21:13

yeah three four hundred a crime i'm

1:21:15

sure sure less over calls because they're all

1:21:18

of them look over them two lines

1:21:19

yeah i heard and is as they

1:21:21

say that from those a better fit a pregnancy test

1:21:24

of your know i'm , bricklayer give give

1:21:26

the princes that we return to to

1:21:28

harm other about is unclear on the make some sort

1:21:30

of a spectacle i have maybe seven

1:21:33

or eight

1:21:34

that of like pounds our brains the test in

1:21:36

a brown paper bag

1:21:38

she handed to her mother

1:21:39

they just like were different reactions

1:21:42

never works as a never works as

1:21:44

a mile from my

1:21:45

the recyclers over there were

1:21:49

the open for plastic stuff is what look again

1:21:51

and supple one of the most and only getting over my

1:21:53

wins like to sit on much piss bag

1:21:56

appears as appears bag of pithy plastic all of them

1:21:58

usa and

1:21:59

the only way to watch them to that was the book and i

1:22:02

are the pregnancy often triggered a little gotta

1:22:04

give the percentage of like you're

1:22:06

handling

1:22:07

you're handling this but yeah know

1:22:09

that the interaction wasn't exactly what they expected

1:22:11

at all it was like something a convoluted thing

1:22:14

but that's open across that message on

1:22:16

the not original yeah no american

1:22:19

beautiful ice solid family

1:22:21

him and let me live in the drain it's all

1:22:23

fucking bodies virtue signalling you

1:22:25

know before became a fucking

1:22:27

the for a fad of as yeah

1:22:30

it's , who will obviously was a facade because

1:22:32

they weren't a happy home because they're seventy

1:22:34

five percent them ends up dead poet's

1:22:37

the one that were married for six years

1:22:40

they had two young girls bella and for left on

1:22:42

the sci fi

1:22:43

at a time of her death shanahan was pregnant

1:22:46

with a boy who they're going to name legal

1:22:49

they mentioned that in the courtyard

1:22:51

in the in the sentencing death yeah

1:22:53

you gotta be gotta

1:22:55

the legal termination a liar years for

1:22:57

out there and , life sentence

1:22:59

effort for to early seventies your race

1:23:01

in colorado colorado bella was five

1:23:04

and cc was three know she was led to turn vice

1:23:06

maybe she's four or five i couldn't find exactly

1:23:08

per birthdays unfortunately at

1:23:10

a a been away with kept was am

1:23:13

but they're five and three and they were heavily

1:23:15

featured on ocean and social media posts they

1:23:18

were both from at north carolina originally

1:23:21

chris anderson carolina originally had moved colorado's

1:23:23

mean you're chris a job which is an operator and a petroleum

1:23:25

company called anadarko petroleum

1:23:28

and as shannon used to work as

1:23:30

as a used as a

1:23:32

medical center and then out

1:23:35

she was

1:23:36

the to move to colorado and she changed

1:23:38

it out to be kind of a stay at home mom but she also

1:23:40

worked in a multilevel marketing company called thrive

1:23:44

a which is

1:23:46

ot like the overacting com is called level

1:23:48

or level

1:23:49

which is skincare nutrition brand and

1:23:51

they used to do like vitamins and they'd stick these

1:23:54

patches like is wellness patches and stuff to

1:23:56

yeah and there's even reports of

1:23:58

chris like leather on sand like my

1:23:59

written and we were the factor of the time and was like

1:24:02

not drink and nine cups of coffee i

1:24:04

just felt like on age and i crazy all

1:24:06

the time like on on surprised

1:24:09

that's some internet

1:24:11

you know flu

1:24:13

they didn't do what they did with columbine which is

1:24:15

like all those guys were taken like ssr eyes

1:24:17

or prozac and that that that made

1:24:19

them you know murderous of sound like how

1:24:22

did in order to the thrive patches weren't

1:24:24

the thing that like tip them over the a hits and

1:24:26

like thrived and went into business because anyone the

1:24:28

water patches had like a murderous thoughts or

1:24:30

something like that you know

1:24:31

i'm like a not saying

1:24:33

that they do like defamation suit protection allegedly

1:24:36

but i'm just saying it's amazing with the per

1:24:38

the the prevalence of the popular popularity

1:24:40

around this case that something didn't like

1:24:43

you know he's writing letters to somebody from prison saying like

1:24:45

mandel tray patches like he's looking for any excuse

1:24:47

to get away with a man's will try patches and

1:24:49

maybe just ever since those patches

1:24:51

on me a lot of my mind

1:24:54

the talent tell us about

1:24:56

her friends and in the documentary it was really

1:24:58

her friend a nicole that's

1:25:01

kind of alerted the cops

1:25:03

who the to the to the tragedy on the morning

1:25:05

am by fan that she was mason but it's

1:25:07

a whole kind of a tale right it is your so

1:25:10

uncertain of august two thousand eighteen after

1:25:12

returning from sex week trip to visit the

1:25:14

inlaws in north carolina and then

1:25:16

on a weekend business trip that with a girl pals

1:25:18

from the company girl pals girl

1:25:21

towels should i came home

1:25:23

at around two in the morning at dropped off

1:25:25

by her best the nicole lock infinity

1:25:27

am

1:25:28

and they're not answering your phone and

1:25:30

messing a doctor's appointment for fifteen

1:25:33

week pregnancy check up you see she will be

1:25:35

all over that i would imagine so yeah

1:25:37

and filament a little says the guy really went for

1:25:39

seven weeks if you know she was came

1:25:42

get a as mustard action i was

1:25:44

suspected to be missing by her nearest and dearest

1:25:46

in the documentary another collection

1:25:49

the recollection of the footage from online sources

1:25:52

you can hear nicole calling the police

1:25:54

oh increase in college and parents trying

1:25:57

to get information necessary to search the

1:25:59

house women done

1:25:59

yeah she was like on

1:26:02

speakerphone two touchdowns mom

1:26:04

and dad and mom is like i give you permission

1:26:06

to go and search their house and up as like a

1:26:09

cool your jets i have to get the

1:26:11

homeowners mentioned like stop yeah and

1:26:13

yeah muslim like it i'm not going into the house

1:26:16

if only his integrity

1:26:18

a woods have expanded are people

1:26:20

in say admitting the minneapolis minnesota

1:26:23

we might have all those protests that he

1:26:27

was super was super

1:26:29

is super integrity club so

1:26:31

that a year you know he to

1:26:33

hear about that yeah you have a derived from somebody then

1:26:36

reality they really do you have they'd really

1:26:38

do just stand there and go like i can go in

1:26:40

this got a little don't yes warrantless slur

1:26:42

words a certain sections easier whatever

1:26:44

the current yeah it's all these rules that the don't

1:26:46

nobody was like on this maybe

1:26:49

the families like them i just burst and by the topic

1:26:53

, but i gave the

1:26:55

rules are he couldn't go in with at the homeowners permission

1:26:57

because the enough to because a lawsuit and as others

1:27:00

the rear wheel and presumably as she was in the

1:27:02

house and possibly lying unconscious somewhere

1:27:05

there was talk of like diabetes and energy

1:27:08

past i wish in a coma stuff like via or

1:27:10

the lupus other never get like she had migraines

1:27:12

is used to go unconscious from from crazy

1:27:14

migraines are so i mean smash assumption

1:27:17

to think for shirts not answering phones you know

1:27:19

answer is not answer the door bell could

1:27:21

she be inside another friend is worried

1:27:23

on the phone to chris poop poop training

1:27:26

him he wouldn't as he's at work are i didn't

1:27:28

or slash plate and buddy

1:27:30

them

1:27:32

bringing her parents are has gone to she might be in trouble

1:27:34

just barged into the has or ever do you know the code

1:27:36

for the door like that's on the first few minutes of the

1:27:38

film

1:27:40

i don't moment

1:27:43

the natural reaction like imagine if you went

1:27:45

to go

1:27:46

ring moreno that he wouldn't

1:27:48

want anyone

1:27:49

the ring okay like issue supposed to be there yeah

1:27:52

what would you do you ring or sissy in ring in

1:27:54

order to people who would you go check of

1:27:57

course a natural reaction

1:27:59

what happened next

1:27:59

the creepy at , seen

1:28:02

slush heard heard they

1:28:04

cannot enter the property without permission of the homeowner

1:28:06

which we did say and even secret

1:28:09

thrive and jog up to the cop

1:28:11

and through i to paul for an owl handshake he did

1:28:13

do that very casual and it's and

1:28:15

bit like

1:28:16

a suspicious of that because

1:28:18

my reaction would be

1:28:20

the fuck is a compromise yeah

1:28:23

what did you hear what's up how me right

1:28:25

now yeah tell me as on get out of the carts

1:28:27

am very friendly overeager

1:28:32

doesn't seem at all worried about the possibility of as

1:28:34

missing wife and children

1:28:35

the search the house with nicole and co

1:28:37

and shown on is nowhere to be thing

1:28:39

however her phone wedding ring

1:28:41

and clothes are still present and the children on a fever

1:28:44

blind keys are missing along with center very

1:28:46

weird who became it with the wedding was

1:28:49

and he looked at it like him

1:28:51

at the innermost like

1:28:53

the after go like him as she

1:28:55

left me is this a symbol of divorce

1:28:58

the cranium it was like he was planted off like this

1:29:00

mean she's divorcing me

1:29:04

are you left or your eyes leaking

1:29:06

are these

1:29:07

what you humans called tears

1:29:09

like a real spoken

1:29:11

dramatized and alarm

1:29:13

bells are ringing for her friends immediately

1:29:17

and presumably for the place on the neighbors

1:29:19

to notice that iran seen immediately be

1:29:21

like the system musician and

1:29:23

like commando the works the slave in the morning

1:29:25

that know to lot in the afternoon i got the whole day

1:29:28

nearly for him yeah so

1:29:31

winston and phone is still there as he conducted

1:29:33

all her business owner phone

1:29:36

and she was very public over share so

1:29:38

wherever she when she was posting the system

1:29:40

it's a very strange to leave it behind very

1:29:43

strange i mean your heart sinks when you think you think

1:29:45

you've lost your phone you , drive back they

1:29:47

are to get your phone and by by

1:29:49

came from people are all of my pornhub

1:29:51

book my god

1:29:53

yeah i have watched for years

1:29:56

times down in both slow movement

1:29:59

the

1:29:59

right give for people like nicole chris

1:30:02

i when chris reacted so strangely to

1:30:04

the news he was com and demeanor

1:30:07

and fidgety and on edge physically thought

1:30:09

the i felt like his voice was very like overly

1:30:12

com

1:30:13

considering the situation like is like

1:30:16

the witness we have your

1:30:18

kids listen yeah

1:30:19

i mean your wedding the his weathering yeah yeah yeah

1:30:22

like if it was me i believe what

1:30:24

you fuck amiss i'm actually met liquid a book she beat like

1:30:26

i'd beat freaking are you be so he

1:30:28

was super com and like killer like killer

1:30:30

control and his voice

1:30:32

these emotional reaction but his body

1:30:34

was like

1:30:35

do no

1:30:36

you can then and as well but the

1:30:38

neighbor sort of

1:30:40

that he he nor his like it big i never said

1:30:42

as the guys super quiet which

1:30:45

horseback to like

1:30:46

the relationship between shown on on him word

1:30:49

she probably does all the fog and talk

1:30:51

and in this guy told him to date as and he's used

1:30:53

as a kind of just you know brought

1:30:55

in the background can ahead i almost

1:30:57

given up that's about

1:30:59

green to me you know am

1:31:01

playing dumb fed

1:31:03

into the persona that he had betrayed as her husband

1:31:05

for so long and family

1:31:08

we're all about him

1:31:10

the a member door at a wedding the wedding

1:31:12

food is like the sun and

1:31:14

brew check and i had to pronounce as a rush

1:31:17

around a polish can sign up broods

1:31:19

yak said boy ck am

1:31:23

we're like the completion of anthem a

1:31:25

filming the brother was crying crying and that

1:31:27

the wedding gone are you so brilliant isn't chris

1:31:29

great i saw lovelies she will users

1:31:31

and but by the same token like apparently

1:31:34

already been in long term relationships less

1:31:36

i think already married that ,

1:31:38

it's third you know fell

1:31:40

apart and her family were like yeah

1:31:42

she's like yeah work

1:31:44

chris

1:31:46

there he's gonna he's gonna be good

1:31:48

for with the over over

1:31:50

overacting message all you got from us she's got a

1:31:52

good guy the yeah the she's got a good guy who's going

1:31:55

to mind are impatient st anne's on

1:31:57

and her own admission

1:31:59

he wasn't easy

1:32:01

beware

1:32:02

he was trouble

1:32:04

but psychologically and medically

1:32:06

the sheet and when she makris she was

1:32:08

at the lowest point of her life she

1:32:10

said and she said well as he's

1:32:12

gonna love me when i'm at my lowest

1:32:14

it's only a pill from here to he he

1:32:16

had speech he gave him a when the when the

1:32:18

everything he could expect from her like the call

1:32:20

and ask be in the medical treatments and feel

1:32:22

like shit

1:32:24

sure now if you're on tinder on your you

1:32:26

know you're you're offered a colonoscopy straight away your

1:32:28

like class takes a licking weeks to get in there

1:32:30

usually live

1:32:32

, and or colonoscopy on facebook trying

1:32:35

to the camera

1:32:36

here's the liars and have by law the room

1:32:38

and i get shot obama for same

1:32:40

can't sell

1:32:44

a mile about mile about could say it's a guys

1:32:51

the end up different senses so like her

1:32:54

family were very much like to thanks for taking take

1:32:56

our oh yeah our hands i feel you

1:32:58

get cats that the that know oh yeah thank

1:33:01

christ will have the daily as he felt a little bit

1:33:03

like that similar a perfect match during the wedding

1:33:05

speeches exaggerate we did we see not abbott

1:33:07

the premeditation of the death of his children is

1:33:09

chilling and letters to

1:33:13

sharon tate shearling kids learning

1:33:15

channel he said that someday

1:33:17

when i was putting them to bed

1:33:19

after having a day and the toy store the park

1:33:22

they watch cartoons and when's your birthday party

1:33:24

i knew it was the last time i was going to

1:33:26

be talking my babies and cold

1:33:30

i knew what was going to happen

1:33:32

the day before and i did nothing

1:33:35

to stop

1:33:36

so jelly and in prison

1:33:38

letters to this woman and we talked with her shearling kill

1:33:41

later on m he

1:33:43

writes all this kind of like his his his pen pal

1:33:45

from version treated one of his his neck

1:33:47

or sanders and where

1:33:50

he is basically like going through the

1:33:52

nuances of of his thought process

1:33:54

starts garlic in mind on to whether interview

1:33:57

an ad campaign is like

1:33:58

i cannot

1:33:59

my mother she had and

1:34:02

fucked her neck whole like of can stop

1:34:04

the find that like i'm why did you do that

1:34:06

he said

1:34:08

to me like you like