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Joe Biden will be debating in

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a CNN hosted debate. And

0:24

already many people are saying CNN is afraid.

0:27

One of my favorite headlines coming out of the AP is

0:29

that can Joe Biden perform

0:31

and can Donald Trump be

0:33

boring? And I'm like, wow,

0:36

that's a headline. They

0:38

expect Joe Biden to fail and

0:41

they expect Donald Trump to entertain.

0:44

I think that is a reasonable assessment. But

0:47

now we've got questions about whether or not

0:49

Joe Biden will be hyped up on

0:51

goofballs as we all

0:53

suspect. And there is

0:55

some speculation that he's on uppers. And

0:58

I think that's a fair assessment. I

1:00

mean, when even the AP is saying, can this guy really

1:02

perform? Well, they got to be giving

1:04

him something, right? Well, here

1:06

we go, my friends. The story this morning

1:08

happened this morning. CNN

1:11

cuts off interview with

1:13

Trump press secretary for

1:15

trashing debate moderator. I

1:18

take issue with that headline. I

1:20

don't believe that it was trashing the debate

1:22

moderator. It was pointing out that Jake

1:25

Tapper, who's going to be at my the

1:27

presumption is he's moderating has

1:29

compared Trump to Hitler on

1:32

many occasions. Now, now, how do you expect

1:34

of a fair debate if that's the case?

1:37

Now, look, if someone asked me to moderate a Trump

1:39

Biden debate, I think it's fair for me to be

1:41

like, why? I think Joe Biden's brain don't work. And

1:43

I've insulted him. You got to get somebody who's like

1:45

not in the spotlight, who's just kind

1:47

of like, yeah, you know, let's try and be fair about

1:50

this. I think it's reasonable to say if I'm biased and

1:52

I don't like Joe Biden, I don't moderate a debate. But

1:54

here we go. Wait to see this video.

1:57

This is actually hilarious. CNN cuts off interview with Trump

1:59

press secretary for trasher trashing debate

2:01

moderator. This

2:03

is Cassie hunt, abruptly ending

2:05

a live interview with Trump's press

2:07

secretary Caroline Levitt on Monday. And

2:09

for the spokesperson questioned a moderator

2:12

in the upcoming debate, haunted asked Levitt what to

2:14

expect from Joe Biden out of the

2:16

first live televised presidential debate of 2024 scheduled June 27.

2:18

This one's going

2:21

to be fun. We're doing a watch

2:23

party commentary and laugh riot here at

2:25

Tim cast YRL. In

2:28

reply, Levitt said, Well, first of

2:30

all, it takes someone five minutes to Google

2:32

Jake Tapper, Donald Trump to see

2:34

that Jake Tapper has consistently and hunt

2:36

interrupts. So I'm going

2:38

to stop this interview. If you continue

2:40

to attack my colleagues attack,

2:43

that's that's pathetic. That's really sad.

2:45

CNN is so desperate. When

2:48

Levitt responded, I am stating facts your

2:50

colleagues have stated in the past hunt

2:52

cut her off and ended the interview.

2:55

Hunt later posted an ex about the exchange

2:57

saying you come on my show, you respect

2:59

my colleagues period. I love it. Well,

3:01

I have the video for you and we got the responses. Jack

3:04

Pissovic tweeted this out. This is the clip from the

3:06

show breaking CNN

3:08

host at Cassie cuts off

3:10

Trump spokesman. Caroline,

3:13

this is Caroline Levitt. The

3:15

second she brings up Jake Tapper spending

3:18

years comparing Trump to Hitler. This

3:20

is a preview of how CNN will act during

3:22

the debate. Oh boy.

3:24

44 seconds for your enjoyment. It's

3:27

to take someone five minutes to Google Jake

3:29

Tapper, Donald Trump to see that Jake Tapper

3:31

has consistently stopped this interview. If you're going

3:33

to keep the President Trump to Adolf Hilter,

3:35

ma'am, I'm going to stop this interview. If

3:37

you continue to attack my colleagues, I would

3:39

like to talk about Joe Biden and Donald

3:41

Trump who you work for. Yes. If you

3:43

are here to speak on his behalf, I

3:45

will have this conversation. I

3:48

am stating facts that your colleagues have stated in the past.

3:50

Now, Caroline, thank you very much for your time. You are

3:52

welcome to

3:55

come back at any point. She is welcome to

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11:20

thing. I'm not one of those guys who's going to run

11:22

up to somebody and be like, you know, try and shake

11:24

everybody's hand and beg. But the amount

11:26

of people that want to meet this man. He

11:29

walks in the room and like a

11:31

magnet. Everybody is just being sucked

11:33

over to him and he and he knows

11:35

it. That's who he is. And they all want

11:37

to talk to him. Here's the weirdest thing.

11:41

What can Trump do for you? This is

11:43

the honest question I have about this gravitas.

11:47

For what reason do you want

11:49

Trump to know that like you

11:51

bought a new car or that

11:53

you're working on a new project? Like what do you think

11:56

is going to happen? I mean, it's an honest

11:58

question. When the people rush up to him. And

12:00

they're like I just want to let you know I'm a big

12:02

fan. I work in you know Water

12:05

desalination and this plant it's like great

12:08

That's awesome. Thank you. It's like they just

12:10

want Trump to know they need him to know

12:12

that they're working on something Because

12:15

there's something there. I don't get it. I did me I

12:17

don't get it, but I guess

12:19

people really just are drawn to this man He

12:23

cannot be boring. I mean

12:25

he could he could try to be boring but

12:27

I kind of feel like if Trump went on the

12:29

debate stage and just stood there and made a face

12:32

people would be laughing like You

12:34

I don't know does it here we go here. We go a this

12:37

what the AP has to say Rarely

12:39

if ever has one candidate in a presidential debate

12:41

had so much material to use against the other

12:43

oh my Republican Donald Trump

12:46

has been convicted of 34 felony counts with

12:48

serious charges and three other indictments still still

12:50

pending as President Trump nominated three of

12:52

the justices who voted to overturn Roe v. Wade Creating

12:55

a backlash even in conservative blood states

12:57

and his sweeping second-term plans include promises

12:59

of retribution against political enemies in both

13:01

parties Certainly sounds

13:03

exciting Yet the big question

13:05

for President Joe Biden fairly or not is

13:07

whether he has the physical and mental capacity

13:09

at 81 years old to press The case

13:11

against Trump perhaps nothing matters

13:13

more than the level of energy and

13:16

strength the Democratic incumbent projects on stage

13:19

Both men have glaring flaws that present their opponent

13:21

with tremendous opportunity and risk They'll

13:23

face a huge national audience that will include many people

13:26

Tuning into their 2020 rematch for the first

13:28

time and who won't see another debate until

13:30

September magnifying each success

13:32

or mistake I Gotta

13:35

say I gotta say this Thursday 8 p.m.

13:38

Is gonna be wild It's

13:41

gonna be absolutely wild would be fun. We're gonna

13:43

have to make the popcorn and I

13:46

believe we'll be joined by Alex Stein primetime live

13:48

on on Tim cast IRL at least that's who

13:50

we have slated so far And

13:53

the rest of the Tim cast crew to watch and

13:55

comment on the debate between

13:57

Donald Trump and Joe Biden certainly

13:59

will be fun. Biden and

14:01

Trump will face off 9 p.m. for 90

14:03

minutes inside a CNN studio

14:05

in Atlanta. Oh, boy. Can

14:08

Biden perform? I'm going to

14:10

go ahead and say no, but I always, this

14:12

is like the eighth time I've shouted out this meme. Somebody

14:15

tweeted when they, okay, so

14:17

CNN tweeted out, we

14:19

are going to see, they said, debate

14:22

Thursday 27th. Someone responded

14:24

with, we are about to see the

14:27

Manhattan project of psychoactive stimulants. And it's

14:29

just like, yes, whatever

14:31

the government's been cooking up to keep

14:33

this guy functioning, he's going to be

14:35

hepped up on goofballs. Biden's

14:39

seeming low bar for success has been

14:41

created in part by

14:43

the 78 year old Trump and his Republican allies, whoever

14:46

letlessly mocked the Democratic presidents for

14:49

apparent stumbles connected to his age for

14:51

years. Trump's allies have questioned

14:53

whether Biden can even stay awake and stand

14:55

up for the entire 90 minutes. Democrats

14:58

are hopeful that Biden can bring

15:00

the same energy he did in the State of the

15:02

Union address earlier in the year. But

15:04

a face off on live television against an

15:06

opponent who delights in verbal combat is very

15:08

different from a scripted speech before Congress. Biden's

15:11

team is aware that he cannot afford to have a bad

15:13

night with the nation watching. This is why they're gonna be

15:15

cutting off Trump's mic. Those

15:17

are the rules. They're gonna cut

15:20

his mic off. How much

15:22

do you want to bet they won't do the same thing

15:24

to Joe Biden? This whole thing

15:26

is designed to be rigged against

15:28

Trump. CNN, you

15:30

know, maybe this, I

15:33

don't think CNN will be fair, but maybe this with

15:35

CNN's ratings in absolute gutter.

15:37

You see people like Chris

15:39

Cuomo desperately trying to redeem

15:41

themselves in, you know,

15:44

external space outside of CNN, going on Patrick

15:46

Bette, David and things like that, talking with

15:48

Dave Rubin. CNN

15:50

may be so desperate they may be thinking, if we

15:52

give Trump a fair shot at this, we might actually

15:54

get some audience back. And it's too bad because

15:57

they could. But now with this Cassie Hunt

15:59

thing. She should have

16:01

let Carolyn Levitt say that Tapper called

16:03

Trump Hitler. And then

16:06

she could have been like, well, I

16:09

guess people have their opinions. We'll see if Jake can do a

16:11

fair job. We'll press him to try. That's

16:14

the appropriate response. No one's falling for this. And

16:16

here's the thing. They don't want their audience to

16:19

see someone point out that they will

16:21

not do a good job with this

16:23

debate, that they have been biased, and

16:25

that there's reason to suspect this will

16:27

be illegitimate. And I

16:30

think we can all agree that is

16:32

very likely. That is very likely

16:34

going to be the case. It's seen and will not be fair. But

16:37

the next big question outside of whether or

16:39

not Joe Biden's brain works is can Trump

16:41

be boring? They say having

16:44

already locked up his base, Trump has

16:46

an opportunity with persuadable swing voters and

16:48

moderates who fueled Biden's victory four years

16:50

ago and now express concerns about both

16:53

candidates. But to win

16:55

over the so-called double haters, Trump

16:57

cannot simply lean into the red

17:00

meat talking points, personal insults and

17:02

conspiracy theories that typically dominate his

17:04

public appearances. Instead

17:06

of more talk of retribution or

17:09

lies about the U.S. election system,

17:11

he'll need to offer an optimistic vision

17:13

for the future and a clear

17:16

contrast with Biden on traditional kitchen

17:18

table issues like health care and

17:20

education. He was widely

17:22

panned for his outburst in the first

17:24

2020 debate with Biden, badgering the then-democratic

17:27

nominee and repeatedly interrupting him. Their

17:29

second debate took a milder tone

17:31

and focused on the

17:33

sharply different governing visions. In

17:36

short, Trump needs to be somewhat boring

17:38

on Thursday night. Can he

17:40

stay disciplined? Some allies are hopeful.

17:43

History may suggest otherwise. Navigating

17:46

the criminal records, oh boy, Trump's

17:48

extraordinary legal baggage creates opportunity and

17:50

risk for both candidates on stage.

17:53

Biden's campaign has signaled an increasing

17:55

willingness to lean into Trump's criminal

17:57

record in recent days. Aside

18:00

from a few jabs, Biden himself

18:02

has largely distanced himself from

18:04

Trump's prosecutions to avoid the

18:06

appearance of political interference. Trump

18:10

has been alleging for years without evidence that Biden

18:12

is responsible for prosecuting and won't make it easy

18:14

for the president to toe that line. Recent

18:17

polling shows that about half of U.S. adults

18:19

approve of Trump's New York conviction. And

18:22

if voters don't think the specific convictions

18:24

are troublesome, Trump's attempt to conceal an

18:26

alleged affair with a porn actress is

18:28

hardly bumper sticker material. Meanwhile,

18:31

Biden is aware that Trump may go

18:33

after his son, Hunter, as the then-president

18:37

did on the debate stage four years ago. Hunter

18:39

Biden was recently convicted on three felony charges relating

18:41

to the purchase of a gun while

18:43

allegedly being addicted to drugs. Trump

18:46

has also raised questions about Hunter

18:48

Biden's foreign business dealings when his

18:50

father was vice president. Muted

18:53

mics and moderators, oh boy. This

18:56

is often the case. The moderators and the ground rules will

18:58

shape the debate's outcome, blah, blah, blah. We get it. We

19:01

get it. Biden and Trump will debate at a

19:03

CNN studio in Atlanta with no audience. There

19:05

will be no opening statements. Each candidate's

19:07

microphone will be muted except that it's his turn to

19:09

speak. This is not even a debate. This

19:12

is why Tim Kest IRL does not do

19:14

video conferencing. Because you

19:17

do video conferencing, it's hard to rebut

19:19

and have a hard conversation. So

19:22

if someone's talking and they say,

19:24

you want other people to be able to interrupt.

19:26

And a lot of people are like, don't interrupt,

19:28

don't interrupt. This is the entire point. Conversations

19:32

don't work very well when it's

19:34

a two-second delay over a Skype or

19:36

a Zoom and someone says, here's

19:38

my opinion with a pause and the person says,

19:40

okay, well now here's my opinion. And there's a

19:43

pause. It's like, dude, what you want

19:45

is for someone to say something. They

19:47

make their point and then someone goes, yeah, but hold

19:49

on, hold on. And then someone else jumps in like

19:51

that. I know it might

19:53

sound like a cacophony sometimes, but

19:56

that actually is the raw of the conversation

19:58

that you want to see. It's

20:00

true. That's why a lot of

20:02

people don't like the, you know, you can

20:05

do Zoom and Skype, but it's hard because

20:07

there's that slight delay. IRL

20:09

is always better in real life. With

20:12

them cutting off the mics, I don't see it, I

20:16

don't see it being as entertaining or as like an

20:18

actual debate. I just don't see it. But

20:21

we'll see, we'll see. Rep. Ronny Jackson

20:23

echoing Trump cast doubt on Biden's upcoming

20:25

debate performance. Jackson, Republican

20:27

from Texas, who was Trump's White House physician

20:30

until 2018, baselessly suggested

20:32

that Biden might use performance-enhancing drugs.

20:34

I love NBC because they're so

20:37

full of it. Baselessly.

20:41

I'm going to let that one stew for a minute.

20:43

Come on. Even Democrats know

20:45

this dude's not functioning that well. Okay, let's not

20:47

play these games, right? Biden

20:50

likely will be using performance-enhancing drugs. That's

20:52

just it. Come on.

20:54

Well, let's take a look. There is

20:56

still this question. This is from Trib Live. S.E.

21:00

Cupp says, Biden replacement theory factor fever dream. This is

21:02

from a few days ago, it's from Friday. And

21:06

she mentions, Democrats are still

21:08

stuck in denial and bargaining. They're

21:10

offering up speculative, baseless, and in some

21:12

cases, delusional hypotheticals to soothe their anxious

21:14

minds. Talk

21:17

of replacing Biden with someone like Michigan Governor Gretchen

21:19

Whitmer or California Governor Gavin

21:22

Newsom started way back in 2022. I

21:24

don't know what happened. I don't know what happens. I

21:27

don't know that they replaced Joe Biden. But a

21:29

lot of people think this is it. This

21:32

is the moment that they're going to have to... It's

21:35

make or break. If Biden can't get the

21:37

job done on stage, he's done. He

21:40

will be replaced. Interestingly,

21:43

we've got this, the latest polls. RCP

21:45

still has Trump up 0.9, so he's

21:48

improved by 0.1. And

21:50

then we have this from 538, actually

21:52

showing Biden taking the lead with zero

21:54

points. 0.3 up. So

21:57

hard to know for sure. I don't know that I trust 538.

22:00

There are some polls they don't use that

22:02

RCP does, but in their

22:04

simulation of what we can expect to happen,

22:08

who is favored to win the 2024 presidential election, well, it

22:10

goes back and forth. But

22:12

right now they're saying there's

22:14

one tie. One, there's, oh,

22:16

there's three instances, three instances where there's a

22:18

tie. Biden wins 50, Trump wins 49. I

22:22

don't know if you can trust 538, but

22:24

we will see. In

22:26

the meantime, if this is

22:29

how CNN approaches this, that

22:31

they're going to be shutting off microphones because they

22:33

don't want people to hear the truth, that their

22:35

network has accused Trump of being like, at

22:38

the very least, of being a modern Hitler,

22:42

we will see. We will see. How

22:44

many of you are actually confident? I

22:47

wonder. All right, but we'll see. Next segment's

22:49

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877-646-534. Again,

24:00

that's 877-646-5347. The

24:10

fight that has just kicked off,

24:12

the Ten Commandments in Schools. Well

24:14

Donald Trump is endorsing the idea

24:17

of putting the Ten Commandments in schools and

24:19

many other places. The ACLU has

24:21

already leveled a legal challenge against

24:24

the Louisiana law requiring the commandments go

24:26

up in all publicly funded classrooms. Ladies

24:29

and gentlemen, welcome to the Cold

24:31

Civil War. The culture war, as many

24:33

of us call it, here's

24:35

the question. Should the

24:37

left be allowed to put up images

24:39

from the Progress Pride flag or images

24:41

of the Progress Pride flag, which is

24:43

an ideological symbol, not just

24:46

some, we love everyone's

24:48

statement, it is an ideological symbol

24:50

with stripes and colors that represent

24:52

certain behaviors and morals. Is

24:55

that any different from the Ten Commandments? Well

24:58

my friends, here's the issue. The

25:00

left would argue, the ACLU would

25:03

argue, it is viewpoint discrimination to

25:05

ban the Pride flag. And

25:08

to put the Ten Commandments in

25:10

the schools is also discrimination. Well,

25:12

to be fair, requiring it in

25:14

the schools perhaps may be discriminatory because

25:16

they don't require anything else. But

25:19

this is the issue you get with men on the left who

25:21

would argue outright, you

25:24

cannot put the Ten Commandments in schools and

25:26

they will put Pride flags in schools. Why?

25:29

Because morals over principles. Now,

25:32

one way of putting it, but I think the

25:34

real issue is that there's underlying principles that we

25:36

don't actually consider

25:39

when we're discussing what our morals are and

25:41

our morals are informed by our principles. A

25:45

lot of what we see on the left will

25:47

be the implication that you are

25:49

not adhering to your stated principles

25:51

of freedom, but when you

25:53

challenge them, yet they

25:56

certainly don't. We know this. They

25:59

say free speech for me. but not for thee, and

26:01

now here we are. Now I'm not super concerned

26:03

with Donald Trump saying there should be 10 commandments in

26:05

schools. That's his opinion, he's allowed to have it, and

26:08

so be it, but where does this bring us? Brian

26:12

Krasenstein with the philosophical debate. Now

26:15

Krasenstein is, I wouldn't call

26:17

him the smartest guy in the world, Brian,

26:19

if you're listening, but

26:21

I would say he's a sophist, and

26:24

he's the kind of guy who would endorse or oppose a

26:27

candidate if offered the right amount of money. I'd

26:30

be willing to bet that if you went to the

26:32

Krasines and offered him a million dollars, they'd be MAGA

26:34

personalities in two seconds. Brian

26:36

tweeted this, hey everyone, I've got great

26:38

news. We will be pushing

26:41

for the five pillars of Islam to be

26:43

posted in every single classroom across America. I'm

26:46

so excited because I know that my conservative friends

26:48

will be for this. How excited

26:50

are you about the initiative, MAGA? This is

26:52

great, right? I'm just gonna come

26:54

right out and say it. A

26:57

sophist degenerate trying

26:59

to play upon my morals and principles

27:01

means literally nothing to me. Your

27:05

booze mean nothing, I've seen what makes you

27:07

cheer. That's quite literally it. Your

27:10

point is garbage, but

27:14

I would say this. Many

27:16

on the left, many liberals, many low

27:18

order thinkers, first order thinkers, they're

27:21

gonna go, ha, see, you know, you want the

27:23

Ten Commandments in the schools, but you know, you

27:25

don't want the pillars of Islam because you're a

27:27

hypocrite and if you want this, then why not

27:29

that? And it's like Christians

27:31

want Christian stuff in schools. Next question.

27:34

Like on the surface, it's really, really

27:36

simple, right? People who

27:38

follow the Ten Commandments do not want the pillars of

27:40

Islam in school. Thank you and

27:42

have a nice day. There's no question

27:44

of principles. There's no question of

27:47

hypocrisy. There's a question of the

27:49

moral foundation of an individual in

27:51

pursuing what they desire. So

27:53

if their moral foundations are in the Ten Commandments

27:55

and not the pillars of Islam, then they will

27:57

advocate for at a legal level every step of

27:59

the way. the Ten Commandments and not the Palace

28:02

of Islam. Brian, I hope that helps. But let's

28:04

do this. I'd like to

28:06

dive into a deeper conversation, people

28:08

like Brian don't quite understand, between morals

28:11

and principles, how principles inform morals

28:13

and what your principles actually are.

28:17

And this is where it gets really interesting because people

28:19

don't actually understand. Maybe a

28:21

deep conversation or podcast could help them

28:23

realize, but a lot of people get this

28:26

wrong. Brian,

28:28

Sarah Fields responds to Brian saying, first

28:31

of all, they understand the point you're attempting to make. I really do.

28:34

I do think that religion, I do not think that

28:36

religion belongs in public schools. And if anyone wants to

28:38

ask me why I'm an open book, however, comparing Islam

28:40

to the Christian faith is ludicrous. Biblical

28:42

teachings spread love and truth. Islam teaches to

28:44

remove the heads of those who oppose them.

28:46

Well, I would say that Islam

28:48

as a religion, I

28:51

don't agree with that. Maybe the Hadith

28:54

and the practices culturally do, they do.

28:58

Brian responds, both religions teach love. Both

29:01

religions also push for horrible punishment on

29:03

those who don't follow the religion if you read

29:05

the Bible or Quran. And

29:08

Sarah Fields says, I have read both and you do not know

29:10

what you are talking about. I

29:12

will defer to Sarah in that regard, but I will say this.

29:16

Brian Krasenstein, wanting the

29:18

pillars of Islam in schools, all right. Let's

29:21

talk about morals, principles, and I'll start with a

29:23

really simple one. A question that shows

29:25

you the moral divergence of the left and the right. Should

29:29

the government intervene to

29:32

prevent medical malpractice against

29:35

a child? That's

29:37

the question. And you've heard me ask this question before,

29:39

so for those that are fans of the show, you already know where this

29:41

is going. I

29:44

will elaborate. If a doctor

29:46

prescribes a treatment to a

29:48

child and the parents

29:50

object to that prescription and say, you

29:52

cannot do this, should

29:55

the government be allowed to intervene

29:58

and prevent the pain? from blocking

30:00

that treatment. Here

30:03

we go. Let's say the

30:05

child has cancer. Really, really

30:08

safe to remove cancer. There's

30:10

a tumor grown on them, and the

30:12

doctors like this thing can be removed

30:15

right now. You

30:17

give us a couple hours, safe

30:19

procedure to remove this tumor if

30:22

you don't. And it

30:24

metastasizes, it spreads, it

30:26

could become deadly,

30:29

fatal, malignant. Okay.

30:32

The parents say, no, we don't want none of

30:34

your modern medical mumbo jumbo. You're lying to us,

30:36

and we don't know what this is all about.

30:38

So we hear object. And

30:40

the doctor's like, look, he's got a tumor on the side of

30:42

his neck. We can show you the

30:45

extras, we can show you the proof. If we remove it

30:47

now, he's good for life. It could

30:49

be done very easily. And they're like, no, we object. Let's

30:53

just say, for the sake of argument, it

30:56

is a fact. The child has a 100% mortality

30:59

rate in the next six months unless this

31:01

tumor is removed. And

31:03

it can be removed safely and easily with no risk,

31:05

zero risk. But the parents refuse.

31:09

Should the state intervene

31:12

and say the child is getting the treatment to

31:15

save its life? It's

31:17

a tough question, right? Some people might not agree. Some

31:19

people say, no, the parents ultimately decide because

31:22

that's a principle of government non-intervention.

31:25

Most reasonable people, most

31:27

people I say being reasonable would say, yeah,

31:30

if some hippy dippy parents are like, let's put

31:32

it this way. They put their kid in a

31:34

vegan diet and the

31:36

kid is dying. And the doctor says, you

31:38

cannot eat soy and nothing but soy, you

31:40

will die. Should

31:43

the government intervene to feed that child? Vegan

31:46

diet, give the kid a steak. A

31:49

lot of people would say, yes, the state should intervene. I'm

31:51

of the opinion, the state should intervene. I am not a

31:53

big L libertarian. I

31:55

believe that community exists for a reason. And

31:57

if there are psychopath parents who are going to

31:59

harm them. their kids, the state should intervene. The

32:02

next question. You say yes.

32:05

Now, here's the problem. The principle

32:08

is government non-intervention and the rights of parents, right?

32:10

Let's talk about the morals there. There's

32:13

no easy answer on the principle of

32:15

should the government intervene because what if the

32:17

child says, I'm depressed and the doctor says, then

32:20

the only prescription is a sex change operation. No,

32:23

then the state should not intervene, but hold on. They're

32:26

the same thing. Doctors prescribing

32:28

what they say will save the life of a

32:31

child. Now you say, but Tim, that's absurd. Cutting

32:33

the kid's balls off isn't going to save his

32:35

life. That's a weird surgery.

32:37

There's nothing. Agreed. But

32:39

the doctor disagrees. And that's the point. If

32:42

the parents disagree with the doctor, when is

32:44

it acceptable and when is it not for

32:46

the state to intervene? The underlying principle here

32:48

actually is the betterment of the child. However,

32:51

the betterment of the child is formed

32:53

by our morals and the things we

32:55

believe to be true. Thus,

32:59

we come to morals versus principles, something

33:01

Brian Krasenstein does not understand. That

33:04

is to say, if you came to

33:06

someone and said, should there,

33:08

should religious texts be allowed in schools? The

33:11

question is not yes or no. The

33:13

question is not it's free speech or not.

33:15

The question is which religion? Because

33:19

our principles can only inform

33:21

so far. If

33:23

our principle is children must be

33:25

protected from predators,

33:29

from harm, and

33:31

should be given information that benefits them.

33:34

The principle is the betterment of children. Then

33:37

a Christian is going to believe the Ten Commandments will benefit

33:39

them and Muslims will believe the five

33:41

pillars of Islam will benefit them and both will probably

33:44

disagree on each other based on

33:46

what they believe in their opinions to

33:48

be true. So

33:50

the underlying principle is simply I want

33:52

children to have the right information and

33:55

moral framework. What's the right moral framework?

33:58

Christians will say the Ten Commandments. Muslims would say the

34:00

pillars of Islam, or maybe the

34:02

Hadith or whatever, I'm not a Muslim, not

34:05

a Christian either. And thus, when

34:07

a Christian says we want the Ten Commandments in schools, what

34:10

they're literally saying at the principle level is,

34:13

children should be informed on what is right and

34:15

wrong. That's it. That's

34:17

simple. So when Krasnstein

34:20

says, then you want the pillars of

34:22

Islam in school, don't you? No. We

34:25

want kids to be taught right and wrong. And

34:27

Christians will say Islam is wrong and Christianity is right,

34:29

that's it. And you'll disagree. That's

34:33

it. Ultimately, here's the

34:35

point. Pride flags in

34:38

schools, the legal issue. The

34:40

ACLU has taken the position that banning

34:42

the pride flag alone would be a

34:44

form of viewpoint or content discrimination prohibited

34:47

by such decisions as US v. Grayson,

34:49

in 1983, and Reed v. Towne of

34:51

Gilbert. Here's your opportunity. Conservatives

34:56

should actually file amicus

34:58

briefs in support of

35:00

the ACLU right here. And

35:02

here's your game plan. Your

35:05

legal firm, your activist

35:07

group, you file

35:09

an amicus brief in support of the ACLU

35:12

arguing that the Ten Commandments should

35:14

not be banned from schools nor the Bible

35:16

for the same reason that it would be

35:18

viewpoint discrimination. That would

35:20

mean teachers would be allowed at

35:22

their discretion to put the Ten Commandments and

35:25

give out Bibles in the class. The

35:27

ACLU would vomit all over themselves at

35:29

the thought. Likely,

35:31

it would create a really, it

35:34

would be an interesting problem for them in their argument. The

35:37

ACLU does not want the Ten Commandments in school, but they

35:39

do want pride flags in school. You

35:41

can't have it both ways. That's your game.

35:43

That's Ryan Krasenstein's game. So

35:45

you simply say, no, we agree. Pride

35:47

flags should be allowed in schools. And

35:49

then we're gonna put the Ten Commandments and Bibles in

35:51

schools. Then we're gonna get a bunch of teachers hired

35:53

and these schools will be Christian. That's

35:56

the game you play. That's the game they

35:58

wanna play. It's the game. they're quite literally

36:00

playing. I see

36:02

things like this. We're trying to make a

36:04

point about, if you want the 10 commandments, then we get the pillars

36:06

of Islam. No. They

36:09

put up that Satanist thing in that city

36:11

hall or whatever where that guy smashed it. This

36:15

is not, it's an

36:17

unwillingness on the part of the

36:19

left or an incapability to understand

36:22

underlying principles. And they are

36:24

rudimentary. What informs our

36:26

morals? Keep kids safe. Not

36:28

a complicated one, but what someone thinks will

36:30

keep a kid safe is different from somebody

36:32

else. And that's it. So

36:36

if a Christian wants the 10

36:38

commandments, it's unsurprising. They view it

36:41

as moral foundational good that

36:43

helps make kids safe. And

36:46

they view other things like pride flags and

36:48

Islamists not. Though to be

36:50

fair, Brian, a lot of conservatives

36:53

would probably prefer Islam to pride flags.

36:56

Not that they'd mostly prefer either. But I

36:58

hope you get the point. I'll leave it there. Next

37:00

segment is coming up at 8 p.m. over at

37:02

youtube.com/TimKestIRL. Thanks for hanging out, and we'll see you

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a while the number one issue in

38:09

this country among voters was immigration Immigration

38:12

still is a top issue. It's currently number two.

38:14

Why while we're seeing a lot of crime and

38:17

It's not all immigration. It's illegal immigrants

38:19

who are illegally entering the country surprisingly,

38:22

they don't have a lot of They

38:25

don't care much for our laws So

38:28

in a lot of cities we've seen many stories popping up

38:30

in the press of well You had Lake

38:32

and Riley lost her life after

38:34

a man was attempting to force himself

38:36

on her And I

38:38

guess she fought back the media actually

38:42

well, well man It

38:45

seems like because I want to be careful here

38:48

They're almost critical of the victims

38:51

and that's what we're seeing now with

38:53

msnbc once again

38:56

msnbc panel erupts after

38:59

heritage president blast crime committed

39:01

by illegal migrants We

39:03

don't use that term Listen

39:07

you come to the United States legally. I

39:09

have respect for this You know Donald Trump got a lot

39:11

of flack when he said he wanted to give green cards

39:13

to college graduates. Trump is correct Everybody

39:16

immediately assumes the worst possible thing and

39:18

this is the problem with that narrative

39:21

Trump says we want to give green cards to

39:23

college grads It doesn't make sense that they come

39:25

here go to our schools. We kick them out

39:28

and they become billionaires in their countries Trump

39:30

is correct. You see most

39:33

people immediately assumed the worst Some

39:36

communists showing up from Honduras getting

39:38

a scholarship and then getting a

39:40

green card Well, that's if

39:42

that's how you want to interpret it. The real

39:44

answer is point made by Trump

39:47

Simple proposition. What are the parameters? Well,

39:49

I say I agree if

39:51

the parameters are Reforming

39:54

the college system first and foremost getting rid

39:56

of the predatory loan system getting rid of

39:58

all the Marxist garbage Then,

40:01

vetting process, how many green cards are we

40:03

actually allotting every year to college grads? It

40:07

should be between 100 and 1,000 maybe because what we

40:09

want, industrialist billionaire opportunity.

40:11

We want to brain drain

40:13

other countries. Why? So

40:15

that we are number one around the world and then

40:17

we can maintain that beautiful, beautiful

40:20

status as the top economy on the planet without

40:22

using guns and bombs. Quite

40:24

simple, right? But it is

40:26

complicated and there's no guarantee it could be pulled

40:28

off very easily. So that

40:30

idea I have no problem with but the media, you

40:32

look at this story and I got to get dark

40:34

with it because it's the reality. The

40:36

story here, you're asking what is it about? Post-millennial,

40:41

this is tough to read. We

40:43

don't use the term illegal. MSNBC

40:46

punted interrupts panel on 12-year-old

40:48

girl brutally murdered by

40:51

illegal migrants to correct

40:53

language. They're undocumented

40:55

individuals. Seriously? Here

40:57

you go. What do you tell the

40:59

parents of those people, those young girls who were killed?

41:02

This is a preponderance of these

41:04

people by goal or meal. What is

41:06

the difference between an illegal immigrant who

41:09

unfortunately engages in that activity?

41:12

We don't like that. I want to be clear.

41:14

We don't use the term illegal. It's undocumented individuals

41:16

versus anyone else who commits the same thing. I

41:25

mean, it's so... I can

41:27

answer this one. It's really, really easy.

41:29

All right. Here we go.

41:31

What's the difference between an illegal alien who committed a crime

41:34

and anyone else who committed the crime? We

41:36

are trying to prevent crime. Thank

41:38

you. Have a nice day. So I'll put

41:40

it this way. If you come to

41:42

me and say, what's the difference between someone who

41:44

robs a bank and then murders the bank teller

41:46

versus somebody who just commits a murder? It's like,

41:48

well, if we have good security

41:50

on the bank and

41:52

we prevent the people from entering with the

41:54

weapons in the first place, you

41:57

reduce the probability that people will

41:59

be killed. and a botched bank

42:01

robbery. Next question. If someone

42:03

is willing to break our

42:06

laws to enter this country, we

42:10

prevent that, okay, and we

42:12

say port of entry, it

42:14

is a really simple algorithm. It's

42:17

absolutely remarkable. If

42:20

you create a path, it's almost

42:22

like when you ban guns, only

42:24

outlaws have guns. I don't know

42:26

that Democrats are capable of this

42:28

multi-level ordered thinking. What happens

42:30

beyond the first, but I'll keep it simple for

42:33

you. If you, I

42:35

don't know, leave your door open, bugs

42:38

will get in. Then you will have to

42:40

use bug spray, right? Like that's, oh, you

42:42

close your door and then there's no bugs

42:44

and you don't use bug spray. And

42:46

they say, but what's the difference between the fly that

42:48

got in your room when the door was open and

42:50

the fly that didn't? Well, the

42:52

fly that somehow manages to get in is still a problem.

42:54

We have to deal with that and it is bad, but

42:58

it is the simple process by

43:00

which we prevent them from getting

43:02

it in the first place. Okay. You know

43:04

what? I really love this because this is

43:06

pure Democrat thought process, right? They

43:09

say, you know, we tell young

43:11

women not to walk down dark alleys late

43:13

at night or be careful about using the

43:15

ATM late at night. No, we should tell

43:17

men not to rape. We

43:20

already do that. We punish it.

43:22

We have a TV show on, what is it? NBC has been

43:24

on for like 40 years. I'm exaggerating

43:26

specifically about how bad it is to rape

43:28

law and order SVU, by the way, for

43:30

those that didn't get that one. And

43:33

yet there are still bad guys who do it. So,

43:36

well, of course we recognize it's the

43:38

murderers who are the problem. We

43:40

are trying to keep out people who are willing

43:42

to commit the crime in the first place. And

43:45

the people who are trying to enter the

43:47

country legally are substantially less

43:50

likely to murder a 12 year

43:52

old than those who would enter

43:54

the country illegally. Now,

43:57

when these people are coming to the United States. And

44:00

they're coming from Venezuela, many

44:03

of them from El Salvador, especially with

44:05

the amazing, amazing transformation under

44:07

President Bukele. He's done an amazing job. But

44:09

of course, these criminals are terrified, so they

44:11

flee. They flee. Well,

44:13

these criminals aren't going to go to the U.S. border, knock on the

44:15

door and say, please let me in legally. I'll

44:17

fill up my forms and wait a few years. They're

44:20

going to come in illegally. And

44:22

so many of the people that we see, and not

44:24

all, I don't even know if it's a majority, who

44:26

are crossing illegally, are criminals. Now, I will

44:28

say this. Hold on. I'm saying

44:30

criminals before they cross. Anyone

44:32

who crosses that border commits a crime. That's a

44:34

fact. It is illegal to do this in the

44:36

United States. Anyone who

44:38

is willing to commit a crime, there's

44:41

going to be a higher preponderance,

44:43

there's going to be a higher probability that

44:46

those people will commit crimes later on. I'm not saying all

44:48

of them will be murders. It

44:50

could very well just be trespassing. But

44:53

the people who are willing to abide by the law are clearly,

44:55

clearly by the algorithm created. The

44:59

New York Post. MSNBC host

45:01

chaffed at how to refer to

45:03

migrants who enter the country illegally

45:05

and commit crimes during a testy

45:07

exchange. The liberal networks host

45:09

were eager to grill Roberts about

45:11

Heritage Project 2025, an initiative

45:14

intended to outline an agenda for former President

45:17

Trump should he win the second term. It

45:19

has become something of a boogeyman among progressives.

45:22

I'm specifically interested as it relates, Dr. Roberts, to

45:24

the deportation of immigrants in this country, just understanding

45:26

sort of how it is going to work. MSNBC

45:29

anchor Alicia Menendez, the daughter of Bob Menendez,

45:31

began. Well, one thing I will add, too,

45:34

is the president of the

45:36

Heritage Foundation says they're illegal aliens. That

45:38

is a legal term, and it is

45:40

a fact statement. You can be like, we don't

45:42

use the term illegal here. It's in

45:44

the law books. It's just the

45:46

term. Shut up. They're doing

45:48

this because they're trying to lie, cheat and steal.

45:52

When you talk about folks on the interior, how

45:55

you see a future administration utilizing the National Guard,

45:57

ICE, police forces, deport something like

45:59

11. million people. Roberts

46:01

said the first objective is to close the

46:03

border followed by the biggest mass deportation system

46:05

ever in the history of America. Here's

46:07

what I here's what I absolutely love. So

46:10

there's that show evil on CBS and Paramount

46:12

Plus. I've mentioned it on Tim Castor IRL

46:14

because they have this scene where

46:18

the mom it's so it's like frozen

46:20

on a show. Three

46:22

people, there's a priest,

46:24

a woman and a tech guy and

46:27

they're investigating possession and other weird, you

46:29

know, demonic things. They work for the

46:31

church. They work for the Catholic church.

46:34

It's very woke show and it's kind of hilarious. And

46:36

despite the fact that it's being very Catholic. So

46:39

anyway, the mom has four daughters, and

46:41

she's like, I'm going to make a list

46:44

of commandments for for my daughters, the 10

46:46

mom commandments. And the first one is thou

46:48

shalt not lie to mom and she's like,

46:50

don't lie to me. And

46:52

then the one girl is like, can we lie to

46:54

other people? And she goes, no. And

46:56

then the one girl, one, one of the girls

46:58

goes, what if we're hiding Jews in the basement,

47:00

like with Hitler or immigrants with like Trump and

47:03

the mom's like, okay, those are great

47:05

points, but we'll talk about that later.

47:07

And it's like hiding immigrants in your

47:09

basement, like Trump. Jesus,

47:12

people are nuts. But

47:14

you know it. You know, that's what they're

47:16

going to do. Let me,

47:18

let me break this down because that's the narrative

47:20

they're trying to build. But I can tell you

47:22

the difference. First,

47:25

I will say this, Donald

47:27

Trump better be very, very careful.

47:29

It is already thin ice for

47:32

moderate types like me when

47:35

dealing with something like mass deportations.

47:37

It's going to be difficult. There

47:39

may be shootouts, seriously, from

47:41

criminal gang members and cartels and

47:44

things like that. I need

47:46

to know. That's why I asked Trump this

47:48

personally, when it comes to this operation,

47:50

it is going to be done as

47:54

humanely and through

47:56

the appropriate legal processes, properly

47:59

as possible. And there will

48:01

be no mistreatment.

48:04

Now I say mistreatment, assuming someone's a criminal

48:06

with a gun who's like a cartel member,

48:09

well that's a wider berth than say, it's

48:12

some woman who came here 15 years ago, she's here illegally

48:14

and she's got her kids. This person

48:16

should be gently placed in the back of

48:18

a police car and

48:21

driven to a deportation center or however

48:23

they handle it. And then we

48:25

send them back to their homes

48:28

and it should be comfortable, it should. And

48:31

it's a challenge too because you've had people say on Tim

48:33

Guest IRL, maybe we should just pay them a thousand dollars

48:35

to leave and I'm like, why? They'll come back and then

48:37

they'll keep doing it. It's a perverse incentive, you don't wanna

48:39

do that. But I tell you

48:41

this, the difference my friends, for

48:43

the people who are trying to come here illegally in violation of

48:46

our laws, this is the big meme. AOC

48:50

called Detention Center set up by Barack Obama,

48:53

concentration camps. Someone

48:55

made a comic where a bunch of

48:57

Jews were rushing to get into

49:01

one of these concentration camps. And

49:03

it's like, and then the

49:06

Nazi guy was like, hey you, you get out of here,

49:08

don't come in here. The difference is Germany

49:10

was a country with citizens, citizens

49:13

who lived there, who

49:15

owned businesses. Hitler

49:17

comes to power and blames a

49:20

religious ethnic minority for their problems.

49:22

And then they go around smashing things,

49:24

loading them up into train cars and

49:27

things like this to send them to

49:29

work camps and death camps, killing

49:32

them. What

49:34

we have now in the United States is

49:36

people breaking our laws to enter the country

49:39

and us saying, please go home and

49:41

don't break our laws. Very

49:44

different. But that's why I say it

49:46

is thin ice, it's a difficult position and

49:48

there will be very little tolerance for failure

49:50

in this regard. That is to say, the

49:53

first that's gonna happen when Trump gets elected,

49:55

assuming he does, and he

49:57

begins this mass deportation project, Project 2025. The

50:01

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50:03

and make it look like, try

50:05

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51:05

Pool. That

51:12

means Trump's already on thin ice. This

51:15

has to be done so properly and

51:17

perfectly that while people are

51:19

going to be sad, the videos show

51:21

people comfortably being brought back to

51:23

where their homes are and then

51:25

they can apply legally. That

51:28

being said, I do believe Joe Biden's gonna

51:30

try and do mass amnesty before that happens,

51:32

so don't be surprised. But take a look

51:34

at this. This is the nature of politics where things

51:37

are going. Politico says immigration fears

51:39

are pushing centrists to the right

51:42

in the US and Europe. As

51:44

elections loom in the US and UK

51:46

and France, the fraught politics of migration

51:49

are a key issue animating voters on

51:51

both sides of the Atlantic. Well

51:54

yeah, look man, we

51:57

have a 12 year old murdered. There

51:59

was a A woman who went out for a

52:01

run and an illegal immigrant criminal who

52:03

was a known criminal with a criminal

52:05

past tried to rape her.

52:08

That's the presumption from the media reports. He tried to drag

52:10

her off to rape her and she

52:12

fought back so he smashed her head, killing

52:15

her. No

52:18

one wants that. And it is not an excuse to

52:20

say what's the difference between this murder and any other

52:22

murder. You

52:24

get to jail, right? And you put all the murderers in it.

52:27

To start letting them out into one area, don't

52:29

be surprised if murder goes up. And

52:32

the issue with illegal immigration is, on

52:36

the surface, yeah, it doesn't matter.

52:39

Murderers are murderers. They're all bad. Lock

52:41

them up. But hold on. Hold

52:43

on there a minute. If

52:45

somebody who lives in my house and has lived

52:47

there for a long time, and we know them,

52:49

decides to, I don't know, steal my cookie jar

52:51

in the middle of the night, I'd be shocked.

52:54

I'd say, I can't believe it. Jim

52:56

stole my cookies. Jim, how long have

52:58

you lived here? Wow. I

53:01

don't know how this could have happened. Thought Jim was a

53:03

good guy. Now

53:05

here's the alternate scenario. I leave the door open and the middle

53:07

of the night a guy I don't know comes in, steals my

53:09

cookie jar, and I go, oh, some guy I

53:11

don't even know stole my, how could this have happened? What, you

53:13

left your door open? Opportunist

53:15

criminals are gonna come in. How

53:18

are we in this scenario? So this, of course, is

53:20

leading people to be like, yeah,

53:22

I'm gonna go ahead and say, no. I'm

53:27

gonna go ahead and say, we don't want that. And

53:29

now the right is winning across the board. This could be the

53:31

issue that actually drives

53:34

Donald Trump to victory, that pushes

53:36

Joe Biden up. You

53:38

take a look at this from Gallup, something I like to reference quite a bit. Non-economic

53:41

problems. 75%

53:44

of people cite this, okay? When

53:47

you have, and this is as of May 24th. Now the numbers

53:49

don't add up evenly. I don't know

53:51

what they're, how they're at doing this

53:53

math. Non-economic problems, 36%, right?

53:58

The economy in general as a single issue. is number

54:00

17%. When

54:02

you ask people, 17% say it's

54:04

the most important problem. Government

54:06

and poor leadership, number one.

54:10

It was immigration before that at 27%. And

54:13

then 28 before that, we're going back

54:16

to February, immigration has dominated.

54:18

Well, thanks to Joe Biden's, let's

54:21

just call it in

54:23

capabilities, immigration's

54:25

taking a backseat. People

54:28

are more concerned about Joe Biden's brain failing at this

54:30

point. But it doesn't mean they don't

54:32

care about immigration. Just because the number has gone down,

54:34

doesn't mean that people don't care about it. They care

54:36

about it as much as they always did. But now

54:38

they're really worried about Joe Biden's brain being broken. This

54:41

is where we're at. Immigration is

54:43

the second issue as of right now.

54:46

And it was the top issue for four

54:48

months. Before that, it was tied. Before

54:51

that, this is amazing. Even going back

54:53

to November, immigration was still

54:55

number two with Joe Biden's

54:57

brain being broken at number one. Immigration

55:00

briefly took number one. This

55:02

is a problem for Democrats they're not going to win

55:05

on. And going on MSNBC and say, we don't say

55:07

illegal. Doesn't mean anything.

55:09

You're saying nothing. Well,

55:11

here we are. Now Trump of course

55:13

has rightly pissed people off. Rightly,

55:17

maybe the wrong people. Take a look at this, I love

55:19

this from the New Republic, lefty publication. Trump's

55:22

surprising promise to immigrants quickly retracted

55:24

by campaign. No, it wasn't, you're

55:26

lying, but sure. Donald

55:29

Trump made a shocking pledge to help international

55:31

students only for his campaign to immediately add

55:34

some caveats. That was always the

55:36

case. Here, what are the

55:38

caveats, okay? Because

55:40

they don't really mention it. But the

55:42

New York Times says that Trump

55:44

offered green cards to college grads.

55:46

But hours after Mr. Trump's remarks

55:48

aired, his campaign prescriptor, Carolyn Levitt,

55:50

walked back the former president's comments,

55:52

saying in a statement that there

55:55

would be an aggressive vetting process,

55:57

exclude all communists, radical Islamists, Hamas

55:59

supporters, America haters. and public charges

56:01

and that the policy would apply only to the most

56:04

skilled graduates who can make significant contributions to America and

56:07

That was always the case Nowhere

56:10

did Donald Trump say I want

56:12

to give green cards to Every

56:15

single one all of them. He

56:17

didn't do that. Okay? All

56:20

of these Trump supporters like shout out even Laura loomer

56:22

who is Trump's there's there's no one who supports Trump

56:25

more than loomer and Even she

56:27

was like Trump. This is not a good

56:29

policy I respect it that Laura loomer has

56:31

criticized people for criticizing Trump saying now's not

56:34

the time Trump needs to win Trump says

56:36

this she goes wait a minute bad

56:39

policy now I respect that

56:41

the immediate backlash happened because people were

56:43

like if you don't specify we assume

56:45

the worst me I Never

56:49

never assumed Build

56:51

the wall Trump was

56:53

like I'm gonna give all

56:55

of these people green cards. I think

56:58

this We have war.

57:01

I don't like it. It's bad. We

57:03

need alternatives to war How can we

57:05

maintain our status as the dominant global

57:07

economy? We have an advantage power

57:09

attracts power the more money you

57:12

have the more money you invest the more money you

57:14

make everybody gets it Well right now We

57:16

are on top and we may be about

57:19

to lose it, but here's the advantage Everybody

57:21

wants to be here. So how

57:23

do we take advantage of that? Smartest

57:26

people in the world in their

57:28

various countries. They want to come

57:30

here, too So what do we

57:32

do? We should be offering

57:34

tax Incentives to

57:37

foreign millionaires and billionaires. I

57:39

mean imagine you're a Chinese millionaire and

57:42

Like what's that guy? Whoa, I can't remember that guy's

57:44

name who? Disappeared or

57:46

whatever We say I tell

57:48

you what you come here and we will give

57:50

you ten years at a lower tax rate To

57:53

bring your money and invest in America That'd

57:56

be great Colleges we

57:59

tell this young guy Let's say he's from

58:01

China. We got to be careful because China's a

58:03

Communist Party. I get it. But there are

58:05

good people who want to get out of China because of this.

58:08

Let's say they're from South Korea, you

58:11

know, ally of ours. We got military bases and troops over

58:13

there. They're smart. They're

58:16

hardworking. They're inventing things. You

58:18

can tell. They score really high on tests.

58:21

First thing, these colleges got to be totally reformed.

58:23

Nothing else matters before that. Got

58:25

to fix the schools. Got to fix the loan system. Let's

58:28

say we weed out the garbage. We seize

58:30

the endowments, whatever it may be. Let's

58:33

say it's only specific fields. Okay?

58:36

So we got this dude from India, high

58:38

IQ, super smart guy, and he's like,

58:41

I want to study, you know, I don't

58:44

know, mechanical engineering or computer

58:47

sciences. So we say, okay,

58:50

he comes. He pays. Let's

58:52

say in the course of his four years in college,

58:54

this dude has shown himself to be exemplary. He's

58:57

working on a startup already with some buddies. This

59:00

is where we go, okay, this dude, if

59:02

he goes back to India and he

59:04

takes all of this knowledge and these

59:07

resources there, he will build up their

59:09

economy. Then we have to compete with

59:11

them. So long

59:13

as we vet these people for Islamists, Hamas supporters,

59:15

and all the stuff they've pointed out reforming

59:17

the colleges, we want to

59:20

brain drain other countries. If

59:23

everybody wants to be here and

59:25

we bring in, let's say the number is 10,000, 10,000 per

59:29

year, that's it, of the highest skilled cream

59:31

of the crop people. They

59:33

start their companies here. Everyone

59:36

else in the world is begging us for access.

59:39

We don't need bombs. We don't need missiles. They

59:42

will simply need to buy from us because

59:44

we got it. That,

59:47

in my opinion, is the dream. Because

59:49

right now, the Democrat vision is blow

59:51

them up and

59:53

steal their oil and that'll maintain our economy.

59:55

That won't work. Trump knows it. Trump's

59:58

plan here is we've got to. to

1:00:00

drain the brains of these nations, take

1:00:03

their most valuable assets, build

1:00:05

the technology in America, and then

1:00:07

everyone will beg us forever. I

1:00:11

love it. I want America to be

1:00:13

on top. I don't think

1:00:15

the Democrat, uni-party platform that live like liberal economic

1:00:17

order of military base everywhere is gonna sustain that.

1:00:20

No, we do it through trade, good

1:00:23

deals. We bring in some

1:00:25

guy, he goes to school, he invents a new

1:00:27

product, and he keeps it here. And

1:00:30

then what happens? We control it, that

1:00:32

dude becomes a wealthy American, he employs Americans, that's

1:00:34

the plan. And then in

1:00:36

India, they say, we

1:00:39

would like to buy some of this invention from you, America, and

1:00:41

we say, what do you have to offer? That

1:00:43

makes our economy stronger. It means

1:00:46

the American people will live better, and you need only

1:00:48

one thing, to

1:00:50

represent the shining city on the hill. You

1:00:53

need only be the place to be, and

1:00:56

nothing else. I

1:00:58

think it's a good idea. But

1:01:00

it's gotta be done right, not gonna be easy. In the meantime,

1:01:03

you can sit back, as people are freaking out over this crime,

1:01:05

and thank MSNBC for making the problem worse, and

1:01:07

for helping Trump get elected. We'll see if he

1:01:09

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1:01:47

bloody riot outside of

1:01:49

an LA synagogue. The

1:01:51

videos are crazy. Far leftists are

1:01:53

very mad, of course they are mad. Many

1:01:55

of these people are outright pro-Hamas. They're playing

1:01:57

politics and lying to you, and they say.

1:04:00

during their house of worship and brutally

1:04:02

beat multiple Israel supporters outside

1:04:04

the synagogue. At least one

1:04:06

was left bloodied video footage shows. Violent

1:04:09

clashes occurred outside the Adas Torah synagogue in

1:04:11

Los Angeles around 1.40 pm. Pro-Palestinian

1:04:15

demonstrators surrounded the house of

1:04:17

worship and called for a bloody revolution. Jews

1:04:19

formed a line in front of

1:04:22

the synagogue to protect it, and

1:04:24

the LAPD was forced to deploy

1:04:26

crowd control munitions to deter unruly

1:04:28

ceasefire agitators. There

1:04:31

is just a beautiful bit

1:04:33

of irony in someone screaming,

1:04:35

ceasefire while mercilessly beating other

1:04:38

people. But

1:04:41

can't say I'm not surprised. Look, look, look,

1:04:43

look. If you don't talk about

1:04:45

foreign policy, Israel's military actions, Palestine,

1:04:47

etc., the death of civilians and what

1:04:50

this conflict means and how it should

1:04:52

be solved, it's tough, and

1:04:55

I don't got good answers for you. I can

1:04:57

only tell you that the people in the United

1:04:59

States do not represent either of those groups. It's

1:05:02

the weirdest thing, okay? Some

1:05:04

dude in L.A. who

1:05:06

lives in L.A. and is Jewish and

1:05:09

is waving an Israeli flag is

1:05:11

not, typically, dictating

1:05:14

military policy. The

1:05:16

far left is screaming pro-Hamas stuff

1:05:19

is not working with and

1:05:21

dictating Hamas military strategy. It

1:05:24

is so weird to me to see these people on the other side of

1:05:26

the planet screaming and beating each other,

1:05:29

representing their respective ideologies. Now, don't

1:05:31

get me wrong, as

1:05:34

it is to be expected, the Israel

1:05:36

side, they're not typically the ones that

1:05:38

go around smashing and beating people. And

1:05:40

so here you have it. It's

1:05:43

going to be the far leftists. Multiple

1:05:46

brawls broke out between the groups

1:05:48

as the pro-Palestinian mob prevented Jews

1:05:50

from entering the synagogue. At

1:05:53

least one pro-Israel supporter was beaten by the

1:05:55

pro-Palestinian mob. He was pummeled to the ground

1:05:57

outside the synagogue and was left bloodied. called

1:08:00

the violence abhorrent, adding that blocking

1:08:02

access to a place of worship is unacceptable.

1:08:05

I want to be clear that L.A.

1:08:07

will not be a harbor for anti-Semitism

1:08:09

and violence. Those responsible for either will

1:08:12

be found and held accountable, she said.

1:08:15

President Biden also took issue with the protest

1:08:17

tactics, intimidating Jewish congregants as

1:08:19

dangerous, unconscionable, anti-Semitic, and un-American, we

1:08:21

did read this. Pro-Palestinian

1:08:24

activists began gathering in front of

1:08:26

the synagogue in Pico, Pico, Pico

1:08:28

Boulevard. L.A. police

1:08:30

officer, Tony Im said they

1:08:33

were quickly met with counter demonstrators, many of

1:08:35

them carrying Israeli flags. Why?

1:08:37

Why are

1:08:40

you going to a synagogue? Like, what are you, what

1:08:42

are you doing? Well, look, I just got

1:08:44

it. I just got to say, man, I think most of

1:08:46

these activists, purely anti-Semitic,

1:08:49

they hate Jews. That's it. I

1:08:52

am not saying once again, I could already hear the

1:08:54

America First people saying like, Israel is doing this. Yeah,

1:08:57

don't care. I'm talking about the far leftists specifically

1:08:59

who hate Jews. Okay. I'm not talking about the

1:09:01

liberals who are critical of Israel as they're allowed

1:09:03

to be, or the America First groupers who are

1:09:05

critical of Israel as they're allowed to be. And

1:09:08

in fact, I think these people should be critical

1:09:10

of Israel. I think we should all be critical,

1:09:12

very much so of Israel. They should not be

1:09:14

getting out of money. Long

1:09:16

story, long story, but it's a foreign policy

1:09:18

question. I am saying there are far leftists

1:09:20

in this country, and there are people on

1:09:22

the right as well, who outright

1:09:25

hate Jews. And that is why they're

1:09:27

doing this. And they will use the

1:09:29

mask of Middle Eastern conflict to cover

1:09:32

up the fact that they just hate

1:09:34

Jews. Jewish derangement

1:09:36

syndrome. Don't get me wrong. There's also Israel derangement

1:09:38

syndrome, because I'll give you my opinion on the

1:09:41

foreign policy. No

1:09:43

media reports of injuries, though there was a video

1:09:45

showing someone seriously injured. Well, I shouldn't say seriously,

1:09:47

but someone was injured because serious

1:09:50

implies like going to the hospital and stuff. Video

1:09:53

appeared to show two propalsion demonstrators taken from

1:09:55

an SUV and detained. Rabbi

1:09:57

Herzl Iluinin told... Come

1:12:00

on, come on man. The

1:12:02

Atlantic, new 9-11 evidence points to

1:12:05

deep Saudi complicity. Two decades

1:12:07

of US policy appear to be rooted in

1:12:09

a mistaken understanding of—and let's do this, lawsuit.

1:12:13

Let's pull up the lawsuit. Let's

1:12:16

see, let's see. Breaking

1:12:19

down the 9-11 family's lawsuit,

1:12:21

focus on Saudi's student who may have been

1:12:24

a spy. Like there's a lot going

1:12:26

on here, okay? There's a lot. I'm

1:12:28

not literally trying to come down on Saudi Arabia, I'm trying to

1:12:30

make a point. The US is beholden

1:12:32

to many different countries on foreign policy, so pay

1:12:34

attention to it. That being said,

1:12:36

don't go in front of churches and mosques and synagogues

1:12:38

and attacks, but of course it's just the far left.

1:12:41

Next segment's coming up at 6pm on this channel, thanks for

1:12:43

hanging out, and I'll see you all then.