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0:27

Do you believe in the death penalty? As

0:29

listeners of this show, at a certain point, it's hard

0:32

not to believe in it, right? For the vast

0:34

majority of us, we probably have some succulums, maybe a

0:36

lot of former subjects that we would love to see

0:39

wiped off the face of the earth. Or

0:41

former subjects whose deaths we did cheer

0:44

when we heard about their execution. It's

0:46

hard not to cheer when a serial killer

0:48

who has forever altered the lives of many

0:50

people and their families, ended the lives of

0:52

many people, finally gets their due. And

0:55

on another level, the death penalty suits

0:57

a very practical purpose. Not

0:59

just justice for the families, but as

1:01

a means of permanently removing someone who

1:03

is a guaranteed threat to society. Someone

1:06

who has essentially no chance at

1:09

rehabilitation. Someone who can and

1:11

for sure will kill again. In

1:13

a very literal sense, the death penalty might be the

1:15

only way of 100% ensuring that

1:18

these people never run free again.

1:20

That no legal technicality for law

1:22

being changed suddenly allows them.

1:25

Somebody who is supposed to be in prison

1:27

for life with no possibility of parole to

1:29

walk free again. The death

1:31

penalty may be not necessary all the time,

1:34

but many of us feel that when it

1:36

is necessary, it is very necessary.

1:39

And nobody would embody this more

1:41

than Kenneth Allen McDuff. Raised

1:43

in the quaint hamlet of Rosebud, Texas in the middle of

1:46

the 20th century, McDuff should

1:48

have been your classic all-American boy. His

1:50

father, J.A., owned a successful concrete

1:52

and construction company. His mom owned

1:54

a laundromat in a town where

1:57

almost everyone knew everyone. A town that loved going

1:59

to church on Sunday. after barbecuing and having some

2:01

beers on Saturday and after cheering for the high

2:03

school football game on Friday night. But

2:05

of course, Kenneth McDuff would

2:08

be anything but the classic All-American boy. J.A.

2:10

was actually a very absent father, constantly

2:12

preoccupied with his work and many gossip

2:15

that he worked all the time to

2:17

avoid his very domineering wife, Addie,

2:20

a local character known as

2:22

Pistol Packet Mama McDuff. Seriously.

2:25

And Addie might have loved her boy Kenneth too

2:28

much. She would consistently shield

2:30

Kenneth from the consequences of any and all

2:32

of his terrible actions and he

2:34

was terrible so much of the time. Something

2:37

was very, very wrong with Kenneth. Despite

2:40

this kid possibly being born bad, starting

2:42

when he was a young boy, she put it into his mind

2:44

that he was better than other people. That if

2:47

he was accused of something of anything, it

2:49

wasn't because he'd actually done something wrong. No,

2:51

people were just out to get him. But

2:54

they weren't. Kenneth was out to

2:56

get them though. Then in grade

2:58

school, he bullied other kids, started in junior

3:00

high, he crashed cars and motorcycles, started in

3:02

his teens, he got drunk and committed burglary,

3:04

a lot of burglary, which landed him in

3:06

prison at the age of 18 in 1964. And

3:09

Mama didn't seem to mind. She'd stand

3:11

by him, advocate for him, hire him the best attorney

3:14

she could afford and he'd be out on parole the

3:16

very next year. Of course he would be. He

3:18

was Teflon. Nothing could stick to him

3:20

because he was special. As a Mama said,

3:23

and he was special. He was especially deviant

3:25

and wicked. He began to have

3:27

especially sadistic, sexually abusive fantasies as a teen.

3:30

And when he set off on the night of

3:32

August 6, 1966 with the friend Roy Dale Green,

3:34

he was ready to make those fantasies a reality.

3:38

Roy will claim he thought they were just going to pick up

3:40

some girls and in a horrible way, he

3:42

was right. The two

3:44

came upon a pair of cousins,

3:47

15-year-old Mark Dunman and 17-year-old Robert

3:49

Brand, along with Robert's 16-year-old girlfriend,

3:51

Edna Louise Sullivan. McDuff

3:53

would kidnap the three terrified teens before

3:55

coldly and casually murdering Mark and Robert

3:58

and then taking Louise to a remote location. where

4:01

he raped her repeatedly, sexually tortured her,

4:04

and then killed her by pressing the handle of

4:06

a broomstick to her throat so violently it broke

4:08

several bones. McDuff was

4:10

quickly apprehended, tried, he

4:12

was convicted, and he was given the death sentence.

4:15

And that should have been the end of our episode

4:17

about him. He should have been electrocuted. But

4:20

thanks to the passing of some terrible and poorly thought

4:22

out laws in a series of terrible legal decisions, McDuff

4:24

went from having a death sentence to having

4:26

life in prison, to getting out on

4:28

parole after serving just 23 years, and

4:31

then unleashed upon society once again, so

4:33

much unnecessary pain and carnage and death

4:35

would very quickly follow. The wild

4:38

story. So wild it will seem like a Dick

4:40

Bird kind of tale, but it isn't, of

4:42

Kenneth McDuff. On today's true crime,

4:45

serial killer, are you sure you're

4:47

opposed to the death penalty in

4:49

any and all circumstances, addition of

4:51

TimeSuck? This is Michael McDonald and you're

4:53

listening to TimeSuck. You're

4:56

listening to TimeSuck. Happy

5:10

Monday and welcome to the Cult of the Curious. I'm

5:13

Dan Cummins, sir sucks a lot. Neverland

5:15

Ranch, petting zoo superintendent, guy

5:17

who probably should have taken a third molly pill just

5:19

to make last week's episode weirder. Guy who

5:22

definitely should have sang Billie Jean way

5:24

more than he did and you are listening

5:26

to TimeSuck. Hail Nimrod, Hail Lucifita,

5:28

Praise Be to Goodboy Bojangles and Glory

5:30

Be to Triple M. Recording

5:33

this episode before the 400th episode comes

5:35

out, so I have no idea what

5:37

the feedback is yet. But

5:40

I personally I don't think it was as funny as I

5:42

was hoping it would be. I hope I'm wrong. And

5:45

I'm not sure because I was so high, it

5:48

was very hard to understand just what was going on for

5:51

the second half of the episode. I had so many

5:53

intrusive thoughts. It took all my energy to focus on

5:55

my narrative notes. What I wanted

5:57

to do was walk out of the recording, go home, list

5:59

its music. music, cuddled with Lindsay, played

6:01

with the dogs, touched a lot of stuff. After

6:05

the episode, we we did go home,

6:07

laid in the yard, I just felt so in love with

6:10

the world. And then we walked around Coeur d'Alene, spent some

6:12

time at the Blue Shell arcade bar that place is so

6:14

fun, playing some old school video

6:16

games, not caring at all about who

6:18

won or lost, then played

6:20

pool at another bar also didn't care, then

6:23

cuddled up, watch TV, play with the dogs. And

6:25

it was glorious. Thank you

6:27

so much for sticking around for 400 episodes. It

6:29

does mean a lot. And also, if

6:31

you're looking for something extra, for

6:34

some something to give you extra laughs, excuse me, check

6:36

out my buddy Andy Gold's Instagram. I've

6:38

been meaning to promote this for a while. He didn't ask for it,

6:41

but he deserves it. At Andy

6:43

Gold comedy. He

6:45

has, he has people sending him

6:47

embarrassing pictures of themselves from their childhood. And

6:50

then he roasts your photo and it fucking

6:52

kills me. So funny, always makes

6:54

me laugh. Andy has been funny

6:56

for a long long time. And I'm excited to see him

6:58

start to get some long overdue recognition. So I

7:00

hope he keeps blowing up with this at Andy

7:03

Gold comedy. So funny. And

7:05

one more thing, the April Fool's episode this year, just so

7:07

you know, it was a one time thing. I

7:09

just see a lot of comments of I don't know, I was a little

7:11

nervous. He was doing it again. No, not gonna

7:13

fuck with you that hard again. But

7:16

if you do want to hear more of my fiction, check

7:18

out Nightmare Fuel, those episodes on the Scared to Death podcast

7:20

feed. Short horror stories written narrated

7:22

by me. Fans over there are

7:24

loving them so far, blown away.

7:26

If you like horror movies or horror series,

7:29

I bet you'll like these two. And now

7:32

for some true, true horror. Now

7:34

for a topic that brings us back to the realm of serial killers. Unlike

7:37

most of our past serial killer sucks. However,

7:39

in which there's a pretty

7:41

straightforward arc. Killer has a

7:43

horrible childhood. Killer begins playing with the

7:46

idea of assaulting someone. Killer goes on to murder,

7:48

picks up steam, gets sloppy, gets caught.

7:51

The story of Kenneth McDuff, not nearly

7:53

that linear. Instead, Kenneth Allen

7:56

McDuff was quickly caught in a prison for his

7:58

earliest known crimes. A string of burglaries

8:00

that took place when he was 18. He

8:02

was then quickly caught in prison following his first murders, which occurred

8:04

not that long after he got out of prison, which

8:07

included multiple rapes, and he was given the death

8:09

sentence. And damn near everyone

8:11

in his hometown of Rosebud, Texas, knew

8:13

that death row was exactly where McDuff

8:15

belonged. That he was the biggest no

8:18

good piece of shit loser that town had ever seen. Literally

8:20

zero redeeming qualities, like cartoonishly bad. There's

8:23

nothing fucking good about this guy. He

8:25

had long been a bad apple. And anyone with

8:27

half a brain knew that if he was given the chance, he

8:30

would gladly kill again. But then

8:32

to the shock and horror of the people of Rosebud, and

8:35

the families of his victims, he was

8:37

given that chance. And he

8:39

would kill again, and again, and again, and again.

8:42

So how the hell did that happen? Let's

8:44

find out. Not

8:52

much complicated stuff going on in regards to

8:54

today's episode structure. We'll trace Kenneth

8:57

McDuff's growth from a spoiled shitty

8:59

little brat child to a bigger,

9:01

more spoiled, sexually sadistic man child.

9:04

Sexually sadistic. Not

9:07

sure if I said that the first time, and our

9:09

timeline, which we'll thankfully conclude with his death. But

9:11

first, let's talk just a tiny bit about the

9:14

concept of parole in US prisons, since

9:16

parole will factor heavily into the story. How

9:19

do we put away our harshest offenders? And

9:21

how do we choose who to let out? I mentioned

9:24

before that Kenneth McDuff got out of prison after the

9:26

murders of three teenagers after serving just 23 years,

9:29

which leads to the obvious question of, you know, how the fuck did

9:32

that happen? There's a simple answer. Some

9:35

people are fucking stupid. They

9:37

just can't accept that not everyone deserves a

9:39

second chance. That they can't accept that

9:41

not everyone, you know, is redemption

9:44

worthy, that some people are truly fucked,

9:46

rotten to the core and should be

9:48

eliminated. It's a poor understanding of human nature, I

9:50

think. There's also a short

9:52

and literal answer that is not subjective.

9:54

And that's parole. Obviously, the

9:57

concept of parole is not a new one, as most of

9:59

us have probably known. or heard of a

10:01

person who was out on parole after being incarcerated.

10:04

Some of you listening, perhaps out

10:06

on parole. Thanks for the download.

10:08

Stick around. Learn from the mistakes

10:10

of people like today's dirty bird. Never go

10:12

back. When did

10:14

we start paroleing people? The parole system, as we

10:16

know it today in the U.S., started in the early 20th century.

10:20

New York was the first state to adopt a parole system in

10:22

1907, which included indeterminate

10:24

sentences, a release system, post-release

10:26

supervision and criteria for parole

10:28

revocation. By 1942,

10:30

all states and the federal government had adopted

10:32

parole systems. The first parole of

10:34

federal prisoners had begun in 1910 after

10:37

legislation was passed in response to an

10:39

overcrowded federal prison. Overcrowding.

10:42

What a terrible reason to justify releasing violent criminals

10:44

back out onto the streets. But it

10:46

happens every day. It'll happen to Kenneth more

10:49

than once. For a country

10:51

to spend so much on its military, money spent in

10:53

theory to keep us safe from foreign threats, you'd

10:55

think that a lot of money could also be spent on keeping

10:57

us safe from domestic threats. I don't

10:59

know about you, but I don't want to be murdered or

11:02

have some loved one raped and killed by some released

11:04

killer who's an American citizen any more

11:06

than I want to be killed or have those

11:08

I love hurt or killed by someone not from

11:10

America. If the concept

11:12

of parole feels like it should go back before the

11:14

19th century, know that the use

11:16

of pardons essentially worked the same as parole

11:18

before there was parole. Early

11:20

releases, you know, early release. The

11:22

first documented official use of early release from a

11:24

prison in the U.S. occurred in Boston in 1847.

11:28

I thought it'd be earlier, actually. And then in

11:30

the 1870s, the first indeterminate sentencing law was passed

11:32

in the U.S. that allowed prison officials to reduce

11:34

an inmate sentence based on good

11:36

behavior. Before all that,

11:39

prisons in America, you know, emphasized punishment,

11:41

an eye for an eye philosophy. A

11:44

formalized system of parole was implemented in theory

11:46

to reward people who have changed their lives

11:49

and to encourage prisons to provide rehabilitative services.

11:52

Parole was also introduced to relieve governors of

11:54

some of the burden of exercising clemency,

11:56

to reduce excessive sentences, clemency

11:58

being a handing out. out of pardons. Parole

12:02

didn't really become a popular option in the US until

12:04

the 1960s, one of the many ways

12:06

that society was changed under the counter-culture revolution that we've

12:08

talked so much about here on TimeSuck. Sex,

12:11

drugs, and rock and roll. And also,

12:13

prison is bad, man. Why

12:15

can't we just forgive each other and let love rule? In

12:18

the early 1960s, what was later referred to

12:20

as community-based programming, emerged as

12:22

part of a new philosophy of prison reform.

12:25

Under this concept, outside citizen groups

12:27

began to interact with inmates to

12:29

provide services and experiences valuable for

12:32

inmate rehabilitation. Correction facility

12:34

administrators began to look to community leaders

12:36

to promote more programs and help gain

12:38

support for new legislation and larger budgets.

12:41

A greater emphasis was given to religious programming

12:44

as chapels were first given their own space

12:46

and new chapels were constructed so an inmate

12:48

could sit in a distinctively religious

12:50

setting to meditate or speak with

12:52

a chaplain. Visiting and

12:55

correspondence regulations were relaxed as many

12:57

institutions removed the screens, barriers, or

12:59

telephones from visiting areas. The

13:01

role of the correctional officer was

13:03

upgraded to include participation and rehabilitative

13:05

programming and inmate classification plans. The

13:08

1960s also saw a trend towards more indeterminate

13:11

senses as efforts were

13:13

made to relate parole release to the

13:15

attainment of various goals instituted

13:17

by new social programs within prisons. Probation

13:20

and parole case loads were subjected to more

13:22

study and cases were classified

13:24

for intensive or minimum supervision requirements.

13:27

Classification standards were developed to facilitate

13:29

the setting and achievement of goals

13:31

for education, vocational training, and social

13:33

adjustment. Citizen and trade

13:35

advisory groups became aware that institutions needed

13:38

support for work release and study release

13:40

programs. Other correctional programming trends

13:42

were the development of corrections industries and

13:44

the establishment of halfway houses. Parole

13:47

was seen as being, you know, very forward thinking,

13:50

very progressive. Prisoners began

13:52

to work towards more concrete paths towards

13:54

rehabilitation during the sense and successful rehabilitation

13:57

defined by the completion of various programs.

14:00

be recognizable by a parole board.

14:03

However, the ideals of these programs,

14:06

not as successful as progressives

14:08

hoped they would be. Crime

14:10

was ultimately not reduced, thanks

14:12

to rehabilitation. For every parole

14:14

success story, it seemed there were many more

14:16

examples of the recently released getting arrested before

14:18

the parole term was even finished. That

14:21

period of time, post-release, when they are still required

14:23

to meet with the parole officer. We

14:26

now have decades of studies that show that

14:28

the majority of sexually violent prisoners, for example,

14:30

will be arrested again within the first decade of their

14:32

release. In 2019,

14:34

the U.S. Bureau of Justice released a report

14:37

called Recidivism of Sex Offenders Released from State

14:39

Prison, a nine-year follow-up from 2005 to 2014.

14:43

The bureau tracks 20,195 prisoners released in 30 states in 2005

14:46

after serving the sentence for rape

14:50

slash sexual assault. 67 percent

14:53

of these released prisoners would be arrested again

14:55

within nine years. Not necessarily for

14:58

rape, though. However, 7.7 percent

15:00

of these guys were arrested again for rape in

15:02

that first nine years, and

15:04

they were three times as likely

15:06

to other released prisoners to

15:08

be arrested for rape. And that's

15:10

just the ones that got caught. How many

15:12

others got away with the most underreported violent

15:15

crime in the world? Sadly,

15:17

what parole does for the worst of the

15:19

worst is to reward them for figuring out

15:21

how to be sneakier and more manipulative. And

15:23

this is something the U.S. prisons still struggle

15:26

with. The debate rages

15:28

on between hardliners and reformers, conservatives

15:30

and progressives, should prisons be primarily

15:32

rehabilitative or punitive? Also,

15:35

what criminals are even capable

15:37

of being rehabilitated? Can

15:40

someone who rapes and murders ever truly

15:42

be reintroduced into society as someone who

15:44

has been successfully rehabilitated, someone who is

15:46

no more likely than anyone else to rape and kill

15:48

again? I don't think so. I think

15:51

some people are not fit for rehabilitation. I

15:53

am not an optimist when it comes to certain

15:56

aspects of human behavior. I think there

15:58

are some lines you simply cannot cross without are permanently

16:00

and forever altering your psyche, destroying a

16:02

part of your humanity in a way

16:04

that cannot be ever repaired or rebuilt.

16:07

I think some people are truly to the

16:09

very depths of their being lost causes, unable

16:11

to be saved, and moreover, unworthy to be

16:14

saved because of the destruction they've caused. And

16:17

I think it is one of the primary duties of

16:19

a civilized society to identify who those people are and

16:21

to protect the rest of us from being

16:24

harmed by these rotten to the core predators. But

16:27

many disagree with me. I'm very aware that many

16:29

of you disagree with me in this regard. However, I

16:32

think that even if you're one of those people, you

16:34

still might be glad to know

16:36

that Kenneth Allen McDuff was finally

16:38

fucking executed, that the

16:40

decision left the world in a better place,

16:43

much better. Let's find out if I'm

16:45

right by sharing the details of a life that

16:47

should have been cut far shorter than it was in

16:49

today's Time Suck timeline.

16:53

Shrap on those boots, soldier. We're

16:56

marching down a Time Suck

16:58

timeline. When

17:05

Kenneth was born in the mid 1940s, the

17:08

hamlets of Black Land Prairie, Texas, the

17:10

area where he's born, catered to small

17:12

family owned farms. Today, most of

17:14

the land is owned by a handful of large agricultural

17:17

giants, managed by

17:19

people who don't even live in or raise families

17:21

in the area, often don't even live in Texas.

17:24

But in Kenneth's early years, he was right in the

17:26

middle of a post World War II middle-class boom, full

17:28

of folks, living a kind of life that many

17:31

today would like to return to some version of.

17:34

Rosebud's main street teams though, were double the business

17:36

activity it sees today. A

17:38

freshly painted sign, greeted visitors on their way

17:40

in and from out of town, stating simply,

17:43

Rosebud, we call it home. Rosebud

17:46

was according to the Chamber of Commerce at the time, a

17:48

town of good people working together for the betterment of

17:50

their community. Indeed, the Rosebud Chamber

17:52

of Commerce was at the head of this betterment

17:55

effort. They encouraged residents to plant a

17:57

rosebush in every yard. The COC

17:59

along with the Rosebud Bud news gave

18:01

away fresh cuttings to anyone who didn't have a bush

18:03

to start their own for free. The

18:05

COC touted the city of Rosebud has a lot to be

18:07

proud of, but Rosebud is not

18:10

remembered instantly for its excellent hospital, rest

18:12

home, businesses, library, schools and

18:14

friendly people. The name

18:16

and the reputation for having a Rosebush in every yard

18:19

is its main claim to fame. On

18:21

Sundays it seemed like just about everybody went to church, and

18:24

some worshippers, like those attending services at the

18:26

Rosebud Church of Christ, were

18:28

greeted by signs offering good old country wisdom

18:30

like, don't pray for rain if you plan

18:32

on complaining about the mud. Also

18:35

they liked that. That is a

18:37

very, very sweet way of saying, shut

18:39

the fuck up already. For

18:41

sick of listening to your sorry ass bitch about everything. This

18:45

devotion to sound principles seemed at least back then to have paid

18:47

off. One resident would remember that

18:49

only a few people from Rosebud ever went to

18:51

prison, and one of them was for

18:54

stealing two turkeys. That would of

18:56

course change with the arrival of Kenneth Allen

18:58

McDuff. Before jumping into

19:00

his life, I got to say poor Rosebud seems

19:02

to have peaked during his childhood. It

19:05

looks like a town that used to be beautiful. It

19:07

seems that Main Street still has nearly all of the

19:09

old brick buildings it had back in the 1940s and

19:11

50s, but now most of them are vacant.

19:14

And most of those that are not vacant are in very

19:16

bad need of repairs. And that's what

19:18

happens when everyone starts shopping at

19:21

Walmart, Costco, Target, or ordering most of

19:23

their stuff online, places like Amazon, instead

19:25

of supporting local businesses. That's

19:27

what happens when economic forces make it impossible for

19:29

working class families to shop anywhere but at Amazon

19:31

or at the Walmart, Target, and Costco's of the

19:33

world. It's a shame. As

19:36

someone who really loves a vibrant small town Main Street,

19:38

bums me out. And I'm also part of

19:40

the problem. McDuff

19:43

was born March 21, 1946 to John Allen

19:45

J.A. McDuff and his wife Addie, the fifth

19:47

of their six children. He was

19:49

actually born 230 miles north of Rosebud

19:52

in Paris, Texas, along with his twin brother

19:54

Lonzo. Records don't indicate why

19:56

he was born there when his family lived in

19:58

the Blackland Prairie, not far from Rosebud. the time. Shortly

20:01

after his birth, the family moved into town

20:03

setting on the settling on

20:05

the east side of Rosebud in a small apartment. Then

20:08

within a few years, they'd move into a bigger house

20:10

when J.A. started to make more money. That

20:13

first apartment was, yep, pretty depressing. Minimal

20:16

light, barely illuminated and neat, but not

20:18

clean dwelling. The walls were dark, the

20:20

ceilings were low. Still, it was home.

20:23

To support the family, J.A. did

20:25

farm, masonry and concrete work. He'd

20:27

eventually own a successful concrete business during a

20:30

big construction boom that occurred all over Texas

20:32

in the 1960s and 70s. And

20:34

Addie would eventually start her own business, the

20:37

Rosebud laundromat. But a real

20:39

business was her family. She controlled

20:41

everything, including the money, the children

20:43

and her husband J.A. She

20:45

was, uh, oh, she was something. She

20:48

was a fierce matriarch, a little too fierce.

20:51

She became known around town as the Pistol Pack and

20:53

Mama. She allegedly costed

20:56

a school bus driver after the bus

20:58

driver kicked Lonzo, aka Lonnie, off

21:00

for causing disturbances, which I'm

21:02

sure he was guilty of. I'm sure he

21:04

deserved to have his little ass tossed off the bus. But

21:07

that's not how Addie thought. Addie was the

21:09

kind of mom universally despised and dreaded by

21:12

school administrators and educators. Actually, she

21:14

was the kind of mom despised by fucking just about everybody. Even

21:17

other moms exactly like her. She was the kind of

21:19

mom who raised monsters. She became monsters in large

21:21

part because Mama raised them to believe that the

21:23

shit didn't stink. And everything they got

21:25

in trouble for was actually everyone else's fault. She

21:28

made kids think that they were too special, right?

21:30

That the rules did not apply to them because they were

21:32

her babies. They were better than

21:34

everybody else. And if anyone disagreed

21:37

and dared to say something to that effect to

21:39

her children, if anyone dared not to treat her

21:41

kids as if they were better, whoo, they'd

21:43

have her and her fury to deal with. Actually

21:46

reminds me of a matriarch from my hometown. I

21:48

will not name because frankly, I

21:50

don't have to fucking deal with running into her descendants

21:53

when I'm back home. She was part

21:55

of my grandparents' generation. And for the most part,

21:57

the kids that she had and the kids that

21:59

her kids had... Did not grow

22:01

up to be well-liked respected contributing members

22:03

of society They ended up

22:05

in and out of jail and out of jobs mostly

22:08

out of jobs by far People

22:10

somehow not doing shit with their lives,

22:12

but simultaneously carrying an arrogant attitude of

22:14

being above pretty much everybody else

22:18

Interesting combo that I have too

22:20

frequently come across and I was wondering how

22:23

How do you think that you're better than everyone

22:25

else? What exactly are you pointing to is

22:27

evidence of your greatness because no

22:29

one else is seeing it As

22:31

a young boy Kenneth mother's laundromat would serve as a

22:33

location for his transition into a life of crime He

22:36

would steal shit from his mom's customers on the regular

22:39

and then not get in trouble when he got caught just

22:41

truly terrible parenting One

22:43

such unsuspecting customer was Esee Truby

22:46

while doing her laundry as he noticed a young boy playing around

22:48

the washers Apparently while Esee made

22:50

a quick trip to her car Kenneth stole her purse at

22:53

a hundred bucks hidden in a secret compartment That's

22:55

a searching in veins the laundromat and

22:57

a home She confronted Addie who defended Kenneth

23:00

staunchly as she always did But

23:02

as he was the rare person who wouldn't back down and

23:04

Addie eventually promised to find her purse as

23:07

he replied you damn Sure better and the

23:09

money better be there. Ah, she's not afraid of that pistol pack

23:11

of mama It's very got a pistol in her own

23:13

purse. I got two or three As

23:15

he did get her purse back, which I well although she had

23:17

guns somewhere else I guess her purse was stolen and

23:20

the money was there did Kenneth get in

23:22

trouble does not seem so that

23:24

was not Addie's way Most

23:26

other people who dealt with Addie were less

23:28

successful than Esee another Addie McDuff story involved

23:30

the rural electrification Association and

23:33

her displeasure at the amount of time it was taken for a

23:35

power line to be connected to her house On

23:38

one occasion Addie was rumored to

23:40

have gone to the REA office and said something

23:42

to the effect of she wasn't called Pistol pack

23:45

and mama McDuff for nothing wink Basically,

23:48

give my fucking power line for someone get shot

23:52

Seems if Addie was one of the people

23:54

in Rosebud that everybody knew few liked and

23:56

most feared There was no way

23:58

to prove it. But when pets or hogs were turn up dead

24:00

from gunshot wounds, Addie was often blamed.

24:04

As J.A. and Addie's separate businesses became more

24:06

successful, the family could afford to move into

24:08

a much nicer, two-story house on Linden Street,

24:10

almost directly across the street from the family

24:12

laundromat, made for an easy commute for

24:14

Addie. Around this time, Addie

24:16

became an active member of a somewhat rowdy Assembly

24:18

of God church, neighbors around

24:20

the building where the congregation worshiped, always heard

24:23

and sometimes complained about the noise, as

24:25

the celebrants shouted and carried on. Reportedly,

24:28

there was little evidence of a traditional church

24:30

service, like Bible study, teaching or preaching, but

24:33

some of the neighbors would see Addie, a leader

24:35

of sorts, standing before a group completely possessed by

24:37

the spirit, speaking in tongues, only to

24:39

stop, fix her dress, get a little repossessed,

24:41

and then continue. Addie

24:43

seems extra as fuck. I don't think her and I

24:45

would get along too well. After services,

24:47

some of the inhabitants of nearby homes were convinced that

24:50

she would throw items she picked off the street at

24:52

their houses, sometimes hitting their

24:54

windows. They had no

24:56

idea why she did that, other than she was

24:58

just an angry, crazy person. That

25:01

is pretty funny to imagine, right? Just some

25:03

lady, some mom to a big brood of local kids,

25:06

getting done helping lead the congregation on Sunday morning, and then

25:08

as she walks to her car, just stops, you know, grabs

25:10

a few rocks, a few beer bottles off

25:12

the road, out of the gutter, and then just starts fucking

25:14

hucking that shit. Some of the church

25:16

neighbors, fuck you, sinner! Take that

25:18

devil! Suck my tits, heathen! It's

25:22

still bananas. If

25:33

the locals were scared of Addie, they felt

25:35

sorry for J.A. He was a

25:37

quiet dude who worked so much that most people wondered if

25:39

he did anything but work. Also

25:42

was incredibly devoted to Addie and the kids, although

25:44

he seemed a little odd due to

25:47

his lack of a parent interest in socializing with anyone

25:49

outside his family, he did gain a reputation for doing

25:51

quality work, and Rosebud locals hoped that

25:53

would rub off on his sons, and

25:55

it kind of seemed to. As an after-school

25:57

job, Candace made money mowing the lawns of elderly people.

26:00

Rosebud residents who reportedly liked him and thought he

26:02

did great work. He probably did do

26:04

good work. Uh, but was he

26:06

also stealing from them or planning to, uh,

26:09

Kenneth would later bizarrely maintain

26:11

that his success in mowing lawns in

26:14

which he claimed to have made more money than

26:16

many adult males in Rosebud combined

26:18

with the business success earned by Addie and J.A.

26:20

Cause most Rosebud adults to

26:22

resent him and the rest of his family

26:25

as a, as a symbol of upward social mobility.

26:27

They were just so jealous. It

26:30

was then according to Kenneth that jealousy birthed to

26:32

conspiracy to keep the McDuff's down and that's why

26:34

he'd get arrested. Did

26:36

I mention that they weren't rich? Right. They

26:38

weren't, they were doing fine, but they weren't

26:40

suddenly living in some big mansion overlooking the town

26:43

from some hill, occasionally, you know,

26:45

leaving their gated driveway and one of their many

26:47

Bentleys or jaguars to cruise around town and throw

26:49

pennies at the plebes. This

26:51

conspiracy notion makes no sense. I

26:54

especially liked that other townsfolk were out to get him.

26:58

Because he mowed lawns so well. Like,

27:00

like they had a meeting about it. Just, uh, just

27:02

too much good lawn mowing. Hey, who

27:04

else here is plumb angrier than a one legged

27:06

man in the ass kicking contest? I

27:09

got my tail up boy. I

27:11

was sick to death of that McDuff boy mowing

27:13

lawns so damn good. He's making the rest of us look

27:15

like we couldn't hit the floor. If we fell out of

27:18

bed, he'd make me feel as useless

27:20

as two buggies in a one horse town, that

27:22

cocky shit wants to rub it in our faces too. That

27:25

boy could strut sitting down. We need to take him

27:27

down a peg or two. We need

27:29

to take down that whole damn family

27:31

for their lawn mowing, wizardry and laundry

27:33

and concrete riches. But

27:36

be careful around the mother. She's so contrary.

27:38

She floats upstream. She can start a fight at an

27:40

empty house. So let's figure out

27:42

how we're going to do it. How we will destroy the McDuffs.

27:44

There's got to be a way. You

27:47

can't get large unless you boil the hog. Come on now.

27:49

If you lie down with dogs, you get up with fleas. Come on,

27:51

let's go. Let's ruin that family and

27:53

keep them so poor. They won't be able to afford

27:56

a pocket pigeon or a window to throw it out of.

28:00

went on too long. It

28:02

was just fun to toss around some Texas colloquialisms. No

28:05

one outside the McDuff family would later say

28:07

that anyone was trying to take McDuff down. And then when

28:09

it came to Kenneth specifically, he did a pretty good job

28:11

of taking himself down. By the

28:13

time he was in junior high, he already had

28:15

a well-earned reputation for being a rowdy, rambunctious bully

28:18

who became enraged whenever a discipline

28:20

had been confronted. A kid whose parents

28:22

would never back up as teachers or anyone else who got

28:24

after him. Whatever Kenny Boyd

28:27

did was brilliant. And whenever he

28:29

was blamed for something, he was blamed incorrectly.

28:32

The teachers and fellow students would remember him

28:34

laughing maniacally whenever he got a question wrong.

28:36

He seemed to think the very

28:38

notion of himself failing

28:41

was ludicrous. He was

28:43

also a large for his age and would use

28:45

his size to intimidate others. His

28:47

twin brother Lonnie was also a problem at

28:49

school. Lonnie also a bully, a

28:51

bully with multiple speech impediments, which makes being a

28:53

bully a little tougher. Apparently

28:56

he had an attachment. I fucking love

28:58

weird details like this. He had an

29:00

attachment to the nickname, rough, tough Lonnie McDuff.

29:02

That's what he wanted to be known as.

29:04

I am rough, tough Lonnie McDuff. But

29:09

because he had a lisp, when he said it,

29:11

it would come out as I'm rough, tough, Lonnie McDuff.

29:16

I love a bully who can just never deliver

29:18

the tough guy lines he wants because of his

29:20

speech impediments. You are willing to give me a

29:22

wage, say I watch it. I'm willing to

29:24

file it up. Want to whistle? I dare you.

29:26

I dare you to try and whistle me. Fuck you,

29:28

Waju. Makes me

29:30

miss my daughter, Monroe, not being able to say ours correctly when she

29:32

was little. God, I loved her little kid lisp. I

29:35

mean, I'm glad she worked with a speech therapist and she got rid

29:37

of it. You know, because she didn't love it. I get it. But

29:40

it was adorable. And

29:43

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29:45

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us return to the education or lack

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thereof of the Mcduff boys. Okay,

35:18

so Lonnie, Kenny, they entered

35:20

ninth grade high school. The principal of Rosebud

35:23

High School was the legendary DL Mayo at

35:25

this time. He was a

35:27

typical post World War II high school principal, a

35:29

veteran hardened by military training, toughened

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by war, believing in the power of militant

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organization to keep kids on the right track. Students

35:36

and teachers were terrified of him. The

35:39

only way to communicate effectively with him was through

35:41

Kurt military style memos apparently. The

35:43

test squad of Rosebud High School, for example, was

35:45

trained in military fashion because that's what Mr. Mayo

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wanted. He had a vein

35:50

on his forehead that astute teachers would use as

35:52

a barometer. If the vein bulged and got red,

35:54

it's best to stop talking about whatever was working him up. It would

35:57

be a hasty retreat. Even when the vein

35:59

wasn't throbbing omniscient, Honestly, he never smiles. He's

36:03

also the author of the school's student handbook

36:05

and his primary enforcer. His rules

36:07

are pretty simple. Students were

36:09

not to lie or steal or show disrespect

36:11

to teachers or anyone else. They

36:14

would respect school property. They would respect

36:16

other students' property. If something was stolen, Mr.

36:19

Mayo was going to find out who did it and there was going to

36:21

be consequences. Once a student with

36:23

a nice new baseball glove entered Mr. Mayo's office to

36:25

report he had laid it down just long enough to

36:27

have somebody taken. Apparently, the boy

36:30

and his parents had saved for quite some time to

36:32

purchase this glove. They were very proud of it. He

36:34

loved baseball. Mr. Mayo felt bad for the kid

36:36

and was on the case. And guess who took it?

36:39

Who was the bane of Mr. Mayo's existence?

36:41

His least favorite student. Shortly

36:43

after the search began, old Kenneth McDuff entered the

36:45

front office with the glove, now smeared with black

36:47

shoe polish and kind of sarcastically

36:50

announced, Oh, look what I found in the ditch.

36:53

Nobody would remember Mr. Mayo's

36:55

exact reaction in this moment, but

36:57

it really was not a happy one. It

37:00

was rage. Insults were hurled, punishments threatened, bullshit was called

37:02

on Kenny. Everyone would

37:04

remember the reaction of Lonnie, who

37:06

apparently was outraged and thought of his precious,

37:08

can't do wrong twin brother being accused of

37:11

thievery and being disciplined. So

37:13

he made the mistake of pulling a knife

37:15

on the principle of Mr. Mayo. And

37:17

that, uh, that did not work out too well for

37:19

him. This is so great. Principal

37:22

Mayo now literally lifted Lonnie up off

37:24

the floor, carried him out of his

37:26

office and threw him down a

37:28

fucking flight of stairs. Yes. Hail

37:31

Nimrod. That is exactly the kind of child abuse I'm

37:33

in favor of. Your kid

37:36

is fucking dumb enough to pull a knife on

37:38

the principle over some stupid shit like this. As

37:40

far as I'm concerned, throw them down the fucking stairs. Did

37:43

it kill him? Yeah, it could. Are we gonna miss him? Probably

37:46

not. It also really makes them think

37:48

twice about when it's a good idea to pull a knife on someone,

37:50

which is a pretty good life lesson. Actions

37:52

have consequences. Again,

37:55

I'm thinking about the family that McDuff's remind me of

37:57

from Riggins. My hometown. Some of them

37:59

also got into physical altercations with teachers and

38:01

the principal of high school. And

38:04

those altercations consistently did not work out

38:06

well for them. Oh, so

38:08

great. Uh, years later, Canis

38:10

would brag that he had knocked around the principal. That

38:12

was a bunch of bullshit. He didn't do shit to Mr. Mayo,

38:15

who was afraid of him. However, Canis

38:17

Allen McDuff rapidly rising over six feet tall,

38:19

weighing over 250 pounds, uh, just as a

38:21

teen still would continue to torment some of

38:23

the students at Rosebud high school for the

38:25

very short time he remained in high school.

38:28

And, uh, we had to torment, torment locals

38:30

outside of school as well. Every once in

38:33

a while, residents out in the Blackland Prairie would hear

38:35

a loud motorcycle and gunshots. Next

38:37

day, someone would find holes in their mailbox and there

38:39

was no doubt who did it, fucking Kenny, just

38:42

riding around his motorcycle and fucking up

38:44

people's properties, just classic juvenile delinquent. And

38:47

I was a delinquent like that for a while. I'm not going

38:49

to lie. Mayhem, when you don't get caught

38:51

for it, it can be pretty fun. But

38:54

eventually for the most part, you do get caught. You have to pay the piper.

38:56

Uh, due to his size, temperament and crazy gun,

38:59

coat, uh, gun, Tony mom, et cetera. Almost nobody

39:01

would stand up to Kenny. A

39:03

smaller courageous Rosebud freshman named Tommy Sammons would

39:05

stand up to him. No. I

39:08

love the story as well. There's so much I love

39:10

in this episode. Bunch of

39:12

stuff I'm going to hate too. That's just horrifying, but

39:14

some good stories. Uh, one day can it's called Tommy

39:16

a chicken shit. And Tommy decided not to let it

39:18

go. One of the most popular

39:20

boys in this class, Tom, who was athletic, reserved

39:22

and unpretentious. Canada challenged him to

39:24

a fight in a ravine transverse by a bridge near

39:26

the school. Soon, every student knew of

39:28

the big company, you know, the fight coming up. Nearly

39:31

everyone in the school showed up to watch some

39:33

fully expected Tommy to get slaughtered. You

39:35

know, he just wasn't a fighter. They didn't think just a

39:38

good kid at the appointed hour, the

39:40

two boys show up and the fight is on and

39:43

while Tommy was smaller, it was soon apparent that his athletic

39:45

ability and strength was going to carry him through Kenny

39:48

was big and loud, but he was

39:50

neither strong nor fast. Tommy got Kenny

39:52

in the headlock, pound his fucking face with some

39:54

punches. Kenny had to bite Tommy's arm to get

39:56

out of it. And that was about all Kenny could do. Bite

39:59

Tommy's arm. Which. Was not seen as

40:01

a manly most. Student lined up

40:03

along the ravine, leaned over the bridge that were

40:05

cheering for Tommy. They loved seen any get his

40:07

ass kicked. One. Of the boys

40:09

watching Bud Mouse X was so elated by Tommy's

40:11

when he sprinted home to his mom. just the

40:14

tellers. Oh Tommy, just with the snot out of

40:16

him. Soon the

40:18

word spreads throughout Rosewood. That. At

40:20

last that was justice for Macduff.

40:23

And. Now the last straw for tennis. Have

40:25

not yet completed Night Great! He now

40:27

drops out and begins working fulltime pouring

40:30

concrete for death. Nobody.

40:32

Outside of the family was sad to see him we school. Are

40:35

getting himself nice as a happy to go

40:37

he hated farmer. it's a good work in

40:39

general he did a good policies work or

40:41

but afterwards he had access to cars and

40:43

motorcycles which could use to a the black

40:45

man prairie crash him in the signposts and

40:47

stance with reckless abandon. His

40:49

money to buy more cars and motorcycles back when

40:51

they were much much cheaper compared working class wages.

40:54

and they are now. Like.

40:56

Many others the area can. He started drinking

40:58

the age of fifteen an few years later.

41:00

Perhaps fueled by some liquid courage, he started

41:02

to read more serious crimes. Early

41:05

in the spring of Nineteen Sixty Four. And.

41:07

Ten is just turned eighteen. Seen a

41:09

few other local boys began many to see

41:11

a string of robberies over the course of

41:13

several weeks. And late March scene of

41:15

a topless burglarized the place else out of town

41:17

called lot store. Of lay still

41:19

in Falls County like certain. The bolt off the

41:21

front door. It took about five hundred

41:23

bucks and some checks from assess. Early

41:26

the next month in the adjacent mile I'm

41:28

county. Tens. of the same thing

41:30

and three stores taken a such an ammunition and

41:32

to bars ice cream. He. Had a good

41:34

I seem. To a nice cold

41:37

Victories net. After a successful

41:39

heists, Or then was

41:41

yet another accomplice. He burglarized coin changer and

41:43

took about twenty bucks. Leaders.

41:45

Say months he broke into a machine shop and

41:47

your by bill counting. All those places are all

41:49

these places to me or between often Waco. And.

41:52

To the skills! Awesome tools, Then

41:54

the very same night he broke into a seven eleven. couldn't

41:57

open the safe for was able to find and take some

41:59

twenty two caliber bullets He also met

42:01

up with an accomplice to try and bust into

42:03

a boathouse near Temple, less than 25 miles from

42:05

Rosewood, but they couldn't get in and left. Moving

42:08

a few miles north to the little town of Troy, they

42:10

broke into three more businesses there instead. On

42:13

April 17, 1964,

42:15

less than a month after this crime spree began,

42:17

Temple police rounded Kenny and a few of his

42:19

accomplices up. When asked by

42:21

prison officials what rationalization he had for his

42:24

offenses, Kenny replied in a

42:26

rare moment of complete honesty. Stupid.

42:30

Years later when asked directly about why he did it and how he

42:32

could possibly think that he could go away with so many break-ins, he

42:35

would grin, laugh, and say, oh, they were just

42:37

pranks. I was just joking. I was

42:39

joshing. That's an

42:41

interesting way to look at it. I doubt the people

42:44

who had hundreds of dollars in cash and goods stolen from

42:46

them saw that the same way. Oh,

42:48

man. Oh, shit. That's

42:51

when jokesters got in. Okay. All

42:54

right. Some jokesters, they got in. They took all the money

42:56

from the safe. I can't even be mad. I can

42:58

take a joke. They got me. They got me fair

43:00

and square, dead to rights. Good one, fellas. Kenny

43:03

also later complained about how law enforcement officers and

43:06

the court should have been mature enough to

43:08

recognize that he was just an immature kid

43:10

and they shouldn't have been so hard on him. Yeah,

43:13

totally. It's their fault that he got in

43:15

trouble. If you just look at it in the right light, and

43:18

so it begins, the rationalization,

43:20

the victim mentality, the

43:22

refusal to take responsibility for his own poor choices,

43:25

the apathetic attitude works for people every once

43:27

in a while, but not often. For

43:30

most people, it leads to a lifetime of struggle

43:32

and unnecessary failure and frustration. Most

43:35

successful people I know are successful in large part

43:37

because they take responsibility for the mistakes and learn

43:39

from them. They use hard lessons

43:41

from personal failures as a way to improve and

43:43

increase their odds of finding more success going forward.

43:46

I think the single most common denominator amongst

43:48

all the serial killers we have covered is

43:50

having this attitude, blaming everyone else

43:52

for their own fuckups and shortcomings. So,

43:55

you know, don't do that. Also,

43:57

Canis may have done something far worse than Burglutas around this time.

44:00

In the fall of 1964, while awaiting trial for

44:02

all the burglaries, he allegedly would

44:04

tell his bro, Lonnie, Olonzo,

44:07

Ogonzo Lonzo, that he had

44:10

raped a girl, cut her throat, and left her for dead.

44:13

Jesus. Lonnie reportedly replied that Kenneth should just forget about

44:15

it and go to bed. Uh,

44:17

I'm sorry, what? I don't have a

44:19

brother. But if I did, and he

44:21

told me that he did that while I don't know what I would

44:23

say, I sure hope I wouldn't say that.

44:27

What would you do if your sibling told you they did something

44:29

that bad? Right? Try and get some

44:31

evidence so you can turn them in. That would be

44:33

the right thing to do, but wouldn't be easy. Uh,

44:37

January of 1965, Kenneth was found guilty

44:39

of committing a whole bunch of burglaries.

44:42

On January 22nd, he was convicted of eight counts

44:44

of theft or burglary in Bell County. Two

44:46

counts on January 29th in Falls County.

44:49

Four counts on February 3rd in

44:51

Milam County for a total of 14 counts. He

44:54

was technically sentenced to a total

44:57

of 52 years in prison. But since he

44:59

was given a sentence of more than four years, since

45:01

he was not given, excuse me, a sentence of more

45:03

than four years for any of the individual crimes, and

45:05

all his sentences ran concurrently for all

45:08

practical purposes, he was just sentenced to four

45:10

years in prison. And then on

45:12

March 10th, 1965, two weeks before his 19th birthday,

45:15

Kenneth would be delivered to the Ferguson unit of

45:17

the Texas Department of Criminal Justice. And

45:19

he will then be out in less than a year. So

45:22

much for all those sentences. Sentence over 50 years in prison,

45:24

out in less than a year. What was the point? In

45:27

nine months and two weeks, on December 29th,

45:29

1965, Kenneth Allen McDuff is paroled for

45:32

the first time. And just over six months later,

45:34

he will do something a whole lot

45:36

worse than steal some cash and a couple of

45:38

ice cream bars. Like hundreds

45:40

of others. 20 year old

45:42

Kenneth McDuff was heading to a

45:45

fun little event called the Bremond Street Dances

45:47

in July of 1966. Bremond

45:50

is just 20 miles from Rosewood. The

45:52

20 year old future serial killer, maybe already killer, was

45:54

going to meet a friend, Richard Boyd, whom

45:57

he liked because he had an impala and

45:59

was quoting. in with the girls. And

46:02

we've already met a dick in this suck. It

46:05

really is uncanny how many dicks show up in the suck first, isn't

46:07

it? There he would go

46:09

on to meet Richard's friend Roy Dale Green, who

46:11

would go on to work with Kenneth for JA's concrete

46:14

business with his dad. Roy was only

46:16

18, felt excited by the prospect of hanging out

46:18

with older, more established guys. Roy

46:20

was also apparently a pretty kind of like meek

46:23

and tiny little guy. He's hanging out with a

46:25

big tough guy now feeling cool. Both

46:27

Richard and Roy knew Kenny kept a .38 caliber

46:29

pistol in his car. That didn't bother them. Lots

46:32

of people did. Hey, Texas. Lots

46:34

of people didn't do though was brag about killing people.

46:37

Kenny was boasting that night that quote, killing

46:39

a woman is like killing a chicken. They

46:41

both squawk. Okay.

46:44

Roy asked if he'd ever actually killed anyone

46:46

and Kenny said yeah, he had. And then

46:48

he buried them in shallow graves. Man,

46:50

what a cool guy Kenny is. What a fun

46:52

thing for a friend to say. So

46:55

creepy. I would for sure immediately unfriend someone

46:57

for making a serious claim that they did

47:00

that, whether it was true or not. So

47:02

fucked up to just act like you've done that. Really

47:05

shows how damaged your way of thinking is. Oh, I know

47:07

it would have pressed these guys. Me

47:10

talking about killing women. Roy

47:12

claims he didn't believe him. Still though, fuck

47:14

that guy if you've been saying that. But he would also

47:16

later admit to federal agents that he did know that

47:18

Kenny had once enjoyed pinning a girl to

47:21

the floor and squeezing a tube of either

47:23

deep heat or Ben gay into her vagina.

47:26

Not sure if he personally witnessed that or if

47:28

he heard from those who had witnessed that, but

47:31

that is so fucked up. I

47:33

mean, sexual assault, sexual torture. If he did

47:35

witness that Roy is a piece of shit

47:37

for either stopping him or, you know,

47:40

for no longer associated with him after that. For

47:43

choosing to continue to associate with him after that. Excuse me.

47:45

Kenny at such a young age clearly already, you

47:47

know, hates women. Also in

47:50

July after visiting some poor girl named Joanne in

47:52

Hearn, Texas, about 35 miles from Rosebud, these

47:54

guys are walking back to Kenneth's car when

47:56

Richard caught sight of a broken broomstick. Without

47:58

thinking, he picked it up. played around with it

48:00

through the backseat. Broomstick was with

48:03

the jagged edge would stay in Kenny's car for nearly three

48:05

weeks and would lead to Kenny's

48:07

new terrible nickname of the Broomstick Killer.

48:10

Yeah, that crime earns him

48:13

that nickname is particularly brutal. Reading

48:15

the details the first time actually literally made me

48:17

feel sick to myself. Friday,

48:20

August 5th, 1966, Kenny hopped on

48:22

a motorcycle and visited his piece of shit, Brother Lonnie.

48:25

Later that night, Roy headed out to hang out with Kenny and

48:27

Rosebud. That evening, they

48:29

picked up Dick, went to Hearn, where Roy got

48:31

real drunk. As usual, Kenny talked more

48:33

about killing that night. He

48:35

said, I know where people park and

48:37

we can kill them, but they wouldn't

48:39

kill anyone that evening. Next day, though,

48:42

would be a different story. Next

48:44

morning, Kenny and Roy Dale wake up early,

48:46

helped to pour concrete at a construction site

48:48

in Temple. At about noon, they hurry back

48:50

to Rosebud to wash up. Kenny

48:52

decided to go out that night to Fort Worth. It

48:54

was about a two hour drive. It was exciting for

48:56

Roy Greene. He had never been to Fort Worth before.

48:59

The bustling metropolis right next to Dallas, far

49:01

bigger than Rosebud. They were

49:03

anxious to get out and have some fun when

49:06

their Saturday work day ended, sometime between noon and

49:08

1pm. Years later, Texas Ranger

49:10

John Aikok discovered that Roy Dale

49:12

had been Kenny's second choice to

49:14

go to Fort Worth actually. And yes, his

49:17

last name really is Aikok. A-Y-C-O-C-K

49:20

pronounced A-Kok. Mr.

49:24

A-Kok. Just had to

49:26

acknowledge that before continuing. Kenny had

49:28

asked another friend named Nicholas to go with him, but

49:30

Nicholas turned him down. Lucky for Nick. Probably

49:33

didn't matter much to Kenny who accompanied him, like all of his

49:35

burglaries. What would happen on the night of August 6 was not

49:37

about the accomplice. It was about what Kenny wanted to do, what

49:40

his miscreant mind had been thinking on for a while. Roy

49:42

Dale was particularly excited to head out because for

49:45

the past two days, in between his usual murder

49:47

talk, Kenny had bragged about some sex-capades. To

49:50

a kid who was about to enter his senior year of high school, this was

49:52

thrilling. The idea that he might sleep with a

49:54

girl that very night was enough to make his

49:56

blood run hot. As soon

49:58

as he got out for it, they rushed to Rosebud to watch. Roy

50:00

almost certainly beat off, then

50:03

they headed to Fort Worth. On the

50:05

way, they stopped in Waco, bought some beer at a 7-Eleven,

50:07

they drank the brew on the way to Fort Worth, back

50:09

when drinking and driving was still fucking cool, and

50:12

arrived a couple hours later. While in

50:14

Fort Worth, Kenny bought another two

50:16

packs of Schlitz. Oh, fuck yeah, bro. Freaking

50:18

good stuff. Spotted a

50:20

friend named Danny at a place called Helen's Bar. Kenny

50:23

had dated Danny's sister, a young girl named Edith, poor

50:26

Edith. After talking to Danny and finding

50:28

out that Edith was home, he dumped Danny and

50:30

dropped Roy Dale off at the hamburger hut in

50:33

a suburb called Everman. Roy Dale

50:35

waited there until Kenny returned with Edith. While

50:38

Roy Dale drove, Kenny sat in the back seat

50:40

with his date. They rode

50:42

around Everman for about an hour until they brought Edith to

50:44

a relative's house in nearby Forest Hill. She and Kenny talked

50:46

on the front porch of the house and

50:48

took a short walk together around 9.30 p.m. Afterwards,

50:51

Kenny and Roy cruised the streets of Everman, apparently

50:53

Kenny knew the area, and more significantly, the rural

50:55

area to the south. He knew there was a

50:58

high school nearby, and who would be at a high school? My

51:00

high school girls. Located on the

51:02

southern edge of town, the Everman High School campus

51:04

was bordered by farmland. Gravel covered

51:06

the unpaved streets, baseball fields lined the western

51:08

edge of the campus, and even

51:11

though the school was within the Everman city

51:13

limits, the area was nonetheless still isolated. As

51:16

Kenny steered his Dodge Coronet around the campus, he found what

51:18

he was looking for. Near the

51:20

baseball field, he could see a large Park 1955 Fort. At

51:23

the time of night, or at that time of night, he

51:26

probably assumed the inside of the Ford, that inside

51:28

of the Ford, he would find a young couple

51:30

parking, aka making out. After

51:33

carefully surveying the area, Kenny made his approach. He

51:35

placed his car in a field about 150 yards away, and

51:38

from a console between the two front seats of

51:40

his Dodge, he removed a Colt Special Revolver that

51:43

belonged to Lonnie. Roy knew of the

51:45

gun, having looked at it on the way to Fort Worth. Kenny

51:47

then exited the car and told Roy to get

51:50

the stick and follow me. Roy

51:52

grabbed the 3-foot long faded red broomstick from the back

51:54

seat and did as he was told. What

51:56

the fuck, Roy? Guess you really are

51:58

a piece of shit. dark still

52:00

night he followed Kenny slowly toward the Ford he later

52:02

say he thought all of this was just a joke

52:05

bullshit about halfway to

52:07

the car Kenny told Roy to stop again Roy

52:10

did as he was told I'll handle this Kenny

52:12

said when he reached the Ford he didn't

52:14

find a couple making out I said he

52:16

discovered three high school students talking leisurely two

52:19

were cousins Robert Brand and Marcus Dunman

52:22

or Marcus yeah Dunham excuse me the

52:24

third was Robert's girlfriend Edna Louise Sullivan

52:27

and three high school kids minding their own

52:29

fucking business parked at their

52:31

high school where they probably

52:34

felt safe where they should have been safe Edna

52:36

Louise Sullivan her friends and family just called her Louise

52:38

was about to begin her junior year at Everman at

52:40

the end of August so young a popular

52:43

girl she liked basketball and played on Everman's team

52:45

despite the fact she was just 5'2 and

52:48

weighed just 110 pounds pretty small

52:50

for a basketball player she's also

52:52

very pretty everybody said so her shoulder length

52:54

hair was fashioned into a popular style of

52:56

the time parted to the side curled inward

52:58

at the end with her

53:00

family she attended the first Baptist Church in Everman

53:02

where she volunteered to help in the nursery she

53:05

was a good kid sometime in late June

53:07

or early July of 1966 she'd begun dating

53:09

a young boy from Alvarado named Robert

53:14

Brand a handsome young man who loved music

53:16

so much he worked several jobs to save

53:18

up enough to buy guitar and

53:20

with it he started playing with a group of friends

53:22

at teen clubs and parties his

53:24

younger cousin California Marcus Dunham was staying with

53:26

the Brand family that summer in Alvarado Marcus

53:29

and Robert were more like brothers and cousins right

53:32

they played music hunted together August

53:34

6 1966 Marcus had been

53:36

visiting his grandma in Fort Worth at

53:39

about 4 p.m. he decided to hitchhike back to

53:41

Alvarado he made it safely and the boys left

53:43

for Everman that afternoon planning to double

53:45

date with Louise and her friend and neighbor Rhonda where

53:48

Rhonda got sick so the three just went

53:50

out together leaving the Brand house around 7

53:52

p.m. thinking they might try and catch a movie sometime

53:54

during the evening probably all parked at the

53:57

secluded baseball park staring thoughtlessly at the

53:59

sky through the back windshield to Roberts

54:01

1955 Ford. One of

54:03

the three teenagers removed mascara from Louise's purse

54:05

and wrote Louise on the glass. Seven

54:08

wore on to 730

54:10

and then 830 and then 930. And

54:13

they didn't see the man now approaching their car. For

54:16

several minutes Roy Dale stood about 75 yards from

54:18

1955 Ford and watched Kenny

54:20

creep closer and closer to the unsuspecting

54:22

teenagers. Roy then approached the car

54:24

in time to hear Kenny tell Louise and the boys

54:26

to get out or he would shoot them. After

54:29

taking the boys wallets he put all three terrified

54:31

teens into the trunk of the Ford. Kenny

54:34

now wryly observed these boys don't

54:36

have much money when he told Roy

54:38

Dale to get into Roberts Ford. With

54:40

Roy Dale in the passenger seat Kenny drove the

54:43

Ford back to the Dodge and instructed Roy to

54:45

get in and follow him. Throughout the

54:47

evening Roy Dale did as he was told. Never

54:50

thinking to drive away in Kennes Dodge or

54:52

at least never choosing to. Never trying to stop

54:54

Kenny. Never trying to alert authorities or

54:56

anyone else. Kenny

54:58

led Roy south into the countryside near

55:00

the Tarrant and Johnson County line near

55:03

Burleson. They crossed the highway

55:05

probably US 81 and proceeded down some gravel roads

55:07

to a cow pasture. There Kenny

55:09

stopped looked around and pronounced this isn't

55:11

a good place. So they backed out and

55:13

drove to another field. Kenny brought Roy

55:15

and his teenage captive to a tiny

55:17

farm-to-market road numbered FM 1017. Mr.

55:21

and Mrs. Raymond McAllister lived only 400 yards away. Mrs.

55:24

McAllister testified that she saw two vehicles pull

55:26

off the road and into a field at

55:28

about 1035 that night. When

55:30

another car passed by the lights of the first two cars

55:32

were turned off. Kids used the area

55:35

to park and make out on a regular basis on that

55:37

Saturday night. Mrs. McAllister figured that's what

55:39

was going on. Meanwhile on

55:41

the road Kenny opened the trunk of the Ford and

55:43

pulled Louise out by her arm. Without

55:46

saying a word Louise slowly exited the Ford

55:48

as Kennes ordered Roy to place her in the

55:50

trunk of the Dodge. Roy again did as

55:52

he was told. Kenny then looked at

55:54

Roy and said they got a look at me

55:56

I'm gonna have to kill him. We can't have witnesses.

55:58

I don't have to knock him off. Robert

56:01

and Marcus now frantically begged for their lives, saying that

56:03

they would never go to the police, they would never

56:05

tell anybody what happened. Kenny started

56:07

shooting anyway. Robert was struck in

56:09

the ear and in the forehead. Then Kenny

56:11

pointed the gun at Marcus, shot him three

56:14

times, once through the arm as Marcus tried

56:16

to wave off the volleys. As

56:18

if to punish him for defending himself, Kenny grabbed Marcus

56:20

by the hair, placed the gun against his head, and

56:22

fired the last round. Good God,

56:25

Kenneth, what did you do that for? Roy Dale

56:27

asked after the firing finally stopped. I

56:29

had to, came to icey reply. He

56:32

was calm and collected. Incredibly, Kenny got

56:34

more upset at not being able to close the

56:36

trunk when both bodies were loaded into it than

56:39

he got upset about shooting these guys. Instead

56:41

of reaching in and repositioning the bodies, Kenny started the

56:43

car, backed it up to a fence that the open

56:45

trunk would not be visible from the road. At

56:48

Kenny's instructions, Roy now used Marcus's shirt to

56:50

wipe fingerprints off the Ford and

56:52

flattened out some tire tracks left by Kenny's car. During

56:55

this crime scene cleansing, Luis lay helplessly

56:57

trapped in the trunk of the Dodge.

56:59

Fucking terrified, I'm sure. And

57:02

then probably even more scared when the car started to move

57:04

again. Kenny and Roy Dale

57:06

were now headed further south into Johnson County.

57:08

Before reaching a little town of Egan, Kenneth

57:11

turned from FM 917 onto

57:14

an isolated gravel road. The path cut through a

57:17

hayfield of tall grass. After

57:19

stopping, Kenny walked over to the trunk, ordered Luis out.

57:21

She got out of the trunk. Kenny directed her to

57:23

the backseat of his car. He

57:25

went back there with, as Roy sat outside

57:27

on the trunk and at times would watch.

57:30

He watched Luis take off her clothes as

57:32

Kenny commanded, and then he watched as Kenny

57:34

raped her. After he raped her,

57:36

Kenny ordered Roy Dale to get into the car. As

57:39

Roy sat behind the wheel, Kenny now asked him if

57:41

he wanted to have a turn. Roy

57:43

would tell authorities that he did not. And

57:45

when Kenny leaned forward and asked why, Roy

57:47

considered, or reconsidered, wondering if he'd be

57:49

killed if he didn't. That's what he said. Is it

57:52

true? Or just part of a defense strategy?

57:54

Maybe he was thrilled to participate. Right?

57:56

We weren't there. Maybe cheering Kenny on. Maybe he

57:58

was cheering Kenny on. when he did what he did. Whatever

58:01

his motivation, what he did

58:04

do was climb into the backseat and now rape Louise as

58:06

well. After that, Kenny returned to the

58:08

backseat, raped her again. This

58:10

time he also penetrated. This is the part that

58:12

made my fucking stomach. This is fucking brutal.

58:14

If you want to skip ahead 30 seconds. He

58:16

penetrated her with the jagged end of the

58:18

fucking broomstick lying on the floorboard. The

58:21

car was filled with agonizing screams but

58:23

during the entire assault Louise only actually

58:26

said one thing and it's fucking, oh my

58:28

god, it's so sad. She said, stop.

58:30

I think you ripped something. Of

58:32

course, nobody stopped. Man, that

58:35

fucking detail right there. Take away the two murders

58:37

he just committed. Had he not killed those two

58:39

guys but he did kidnap and rape Louise and

58:41

also violated her with a broken broomstick like that,

58:44

he should be fucking killed. If

58:46

I was an executioner, all I would need

58:49

to feel morally righteous in my decision to

58:51

execute that motherfucker would be that detail.

58:54

Oh, I'm sorry, what? He raped her with a broken broomstick

58:56

handle while she screams in pain? Oh yeah, no, happy to

58:58

kill him. I'm actually pissed he isn't already

59:00

dead. Don't even bother to pay me. This one's on the

59:02

house. Reading shit like

59:04

that fills my head with all kinds of Dexter

59:06

vengeance fantasies. I wouldn't want to just kill him.

59:08

I'd want to make him suffer. Tie him up,

59:11

shove that same broken broomstick up his ass until

59:13

it just ruptures his colon, then just keep shoving

59:15

it until it pierces a variety of

59:17

other organs. But not so

59:19

far that he dies quick. Just leave him

59:21

on the ground. Let him die suffer or

59:23

slowly suffer. Why the

59:25

fuck do people like him exist? I can

59:27

do a million serial killer sucks and

59:30

never fully understand. Not really

59:32

why these people are able to do this.

59:35

I get they have no conscience. But

59:37

they'll just feel like fucking human beings done

59:39

nothing to you to do that to them. My

59:42

God. Finally, Kenny told Louise to

59:44

put her clothes back on. Kenny then

59:46

drove Louise and Roy a short distance to yet another

59:48

lonely road covered with white crushed on the other not

59:50

done. He stops the car orders

59:52

Louise to get out sits on the road near the front of

59:54

the car. She has no choice but to do what he wants.

59:57

When she asked what is gonna happen to her Kenny replies

59:59

it He was gonna tie her up. Why

1:00:02

I'm not going anywhere. She says Kennedy then

1:00:04

turns to Roy and asked if he has a belt Roy

1:00:06

hands his belt over but Kenny promptly changed

1:00:09

his mind throws it back into the car

1:00:11

He then grabs that broomstick walks towards Louise

1:00:13

Tells Roy to get the belt as Roy

1:00:16

turns to go back to the car He hears an odd

1:00:18

sound and he had gone over to

1:00:20

Louise sat on her chest and placed the broomstick across

1:00:22

her throat As he pressed against

1:00:24

the white crushed stone. It sounded like air

1:00:27

escaping out of a balloon or air hose

1:00:29

apparently No, no leave her

1:00:31

alone Roy Dale. Roy Dale said or at

1:00:33

least claimed he said It's

1:00:35

got to be done. Can you replied? Can

1:00:37

you press hard enough to break several bones in Louise's

1:00:39

neck and she gas for air sugar for

1:00:41

life her arms and legs Flapped around so much Kenny ordered

1:00:43

Roy to hold the 110 pound girls legs down Want

1:00:47

to get into a fucking time machine go back and kill

1:00:49

both of these fucks human centipede them together

1:00:52

or something When he finally let

1:00:54

go Kenny told him to grab her legs again, and he

1:00:56

did the second time he grabbed his legs However, but you

1:00:58

know, she wasn't struggling because she was already dead Kenny

1:01:01

then said just all casual like

1:01:04

it's like you kill a possum Some

1:01:07

people are so fucked in their heads Roy now ordered

1:01:09

Roy or Kenny now ordered Roy did Roy Dale to

1:01:12

turn the car around Roy did

1:01:14

it as he was told can't continue to

1:01:16

press the broomstick across Louise's neck even though she

1:01:18

is far gone at this point He

1:01:20

just enjoying himself. I guess Then

1:01:22

Kenny grabbed her arms Roy grabbed her legs the

1:01:24

heave you're over a barbed wire fence into a

1:01:26

field with long grass Kenny crossed

1:01:29

the fence choked her again. What the

1:01:31

fuck? Before finally asking Roy

1:01:33

to take her pulse He did

1:01:37

No pulse Kenny double-checks. No pulse That

1:01:40

was when he noticed a German cross necklace around Louise's neck and

1:01:42

he ripped it off and put it in his pocket a

1:01:44

little trinket I guess Kenny

1:01:47

then a little like a trophy Kenny

1:01:49

then looked at the gun notice that he had fired all

1:01:51

of his rounds into Robert and Marcus and he was

1:01:53

frustrated because He wanted to shoot Louise again Or

1:01:56

not again, but you know shoot her just in case They

1:01:59

now dragged her to a club pump oak trees with

1:02:01

ground covered by dense brush and left her there. On

1:02:04

their way back to Roy Dale's house in Marlin,

1:02:06

Kenny and Roy stopped in Hillsboro at a gas

1:02:08

station for some soft drinks. Oh yeah, why not?

1:02:11

Enjoy tasty root beer to refresh yourself. I

1:02:13

forget all tired, violently raping and killing some

1:02:15

high school girl. Over

1:02:18

Kansas soda, Kenneth instructed Roy not to say

1:02:20

anything to anyone. The police would

1:02:22

give them both the electric cherry set. As

1:02:25

they drove south to Marlin, they tossed the empty shells from

1:02:27

the pistol out the window along with that broomstick which would

1:02:29

never be found. Later they stopped

1:02:31

near a road sign and buried Roberts and Marcus as

1:02:33

wallets. After reaching Marlin, they

1:02:35

tried unsuccessfully to flush their bloody underwear

1:02:38

down a gas station toilet. So

1:02:40

fucking disturbing that they both had bloody underwear because

1:02:43

they got that obviously from Louise while they were

1:02:45

raping her. Which was a

1:02:47

magic button. I can push right now and

1:02:49

I would push it if it would

1:02:51

just kill literally everybody who has ever raped

1:02:53

anyone. Be the most fucking satisfying

1:02:55

thing anyone has ever done in history. Just like,

1:02:57

oh yes, just push it. I wonder how shocked

1:02:59

a lot of people would be by the amount

1:03:01

of people who would die if I did that.

1:03:04

Some people would for sure lose most of the men in

1:03:06

their family. How many celebrities would

1:03:08

be dead? How many professional

1:03:10

athletes? How many politicians, actors, CEOs? Tens

1:03:14

of millions of people at

1:03:16

least would drop dead. Hopefully

1:03:18

time-soaked downloads wouldn't take a bigger hit.

1:03:21

That'd be super depressing to find out

1:03:23

like I'm so excited like, God, I'm fucking dead. And

1:03:26

then my downloads go down by like, I don't know, 60, 70 percent. Oh,

1:03:29

what the fuck? Why were they listening? Why

1:03:32

were those people listening? Frustrated by being

1:03:35

able to clean the, or frustrated by not being able to clean the blood

1:03:37

off. Tending through the garments onto

1:03:39

the roof of the gas station. After

1:03:41

reaching Roy Dale's house and two guys spent the night together in

1:03:43

the same bed. Yeah, why not? Have

1:03:45

a little post rape slumber party. Late

1:03:48

that night in Alvarado, Jack Brann returned home

1:03:50

from work at Bell helicopter at 2.15 a.m.

1:03:52

to find his wife pacing the floor in

1:03:54

a frantic state. Their son Robert,

1:03:57

his cousin Marcus had not yet returned home. Mr.

1:04:00

Brand began searching for the boys. He

1:04:02

drove all night but couldn't find anything. It eventually had to

1:04:04

go home and sleep. For a while,

1:04:06

Mr. Brand thought that the boys might have taken off to Little

1:04:08

Rock. For her part, Louise's mother

1:04:10

did not know to be concerned at this point. She

1:04:12

thought all along that Louise was at her friend Rhonda's

1:04:15

house, just a couple of homes down

1:04:17

Marlene Street. Early Sunday

1:04:19

morning, Bill Sanders of Burleson, Texas was driving west

1:04:21

on FM 1017. He intended to

1:04:24

go fishing when he spotted the 1955 Ford

1:04:26

parked against the fence. Thinking

1:04:28

it unusual to see an unattended parked car with the

1:04:30

trunk open, he stopped to check it out and

1:04:33

was the first to see the horrible

1:04:35

scene. Tarrant County Sheriff Lon Evans later said that

1:04:37

it looked like an execution. Immediately,

1:04:40

Sanders went to the McAllister home to

1:04:42

call the authorities. In a

1:04:44

matter of hours, Rhonda's parents informed the brands of what had

1:04:46

happened. They had still yet to find

1:04:48

Louise. Meanwhile, Roy Dale

1:04:50

and Kenny had gotten up, washed up, and went

1:04:52

outside. After finding the shovel in the

1:04:54

cigar box, Kenny tried to place the Colt revolver into

1:04:57

the box but couldn't fit, or wasn't able

1:04:59

to get it to fit. He then ripped out

1:05:01

one side of the box, wrapped it in some rags, buried

1:05:03

it in the gun in a two-foot hole he dug near

1:05:05

Roy's garage. In an effort to conceal the burial, he

1:05:08

carefully placed some leaves over the fresh dirt. Then

1:05:10

he headed to a car wash, where they scrubbed the car clean,

1:05:13

careful to remove Louise's long brown hairs.

1:05:16

Later that day, Sunday, August 7, 1966,

1:05:19

Roy Dale accompanied Kenny to Robertson County to

1:05:21

pick up their friend Joanne. She

1:05:24

and Kenny had a date that night. Yeah, why not just go

1:05:26

on a fucking date? You know, right away. Kenny

1:05:29

then took Roy to Richard Boy's house, and like he

1:05:31

hadn't just done what he did, he went on his

1:05:33

date. Good old compartmentalization.

1:05:35

Put all the evil shit you just did in a

1:05:37

little box in your mind. Just, you know, put that

1:05:39

box in the back. Keep it away from all the

1:05:41

other boxes in your head. Just

1:05:43

continue on like normal. Next

1:05:46

day, Monday, August 8, over 2,000 people assisted in the

1:05:49

search for Louise using helicopters, horses, and

1:05:51

motorcycles. They sifted through woods, tall

1:05:53

grass, and thick brush. Officers with

1:05:55

binoculars flew low in helicopters to see if they

1:05:57

could scope it out, but they couldn't find her. but

1:06:00

then a guide would arrive, someone who knew where

1:06:02

the body was, one of the

1:06:04

rapists, Roy Dale Green. Kenny

1:06:06

had dropped Roy off at Richard Boyd's house about 1130

1:06:08

a.m. on Sunday. Early

1:06:11

that afternoon, Richard and Roy drove to Richard's

1:06:13

girlfriend's house, picked her up for a Sunday

1:06:15

drive. Her name was Shirley and she

1:06:17

and Richard could clearly see something was bothering Roy.

1:06:20

While seated in the back seat, he started to cry.

1:06:23

So maybe he wasn't cheering Kenny on. Still

1:06:26

did what he did, so fuck him. But maybe

1:06:28

he didn't love it like Ken Doggett did. And

1:06:31

when a radio news report broke the story

1:06:33

of the discovery of two murdered boys in

1:06:35

Tarrant County, Roy broke down completely, falling

1:06:37

over in his seat, bursting into tears. Clearly

1:06:40

Richard had to do something, stop the car, took a walk

1:06:42

with Roy. Roy now confessed to what

1:06:45

he and Kenny had done the night before and

1:06:47

Richard Shirley and Roy Dale drove to

1:06:49

Shirley's parents in Bremont. I

1:06:51

wonder how nervous Shirley was to be around him

1:06:54

after hearing what he had done. After

1:06:56

that, they went to Boyd's home where they

1:06:58

called the sheriff of Robertson County, E. Paul

1:07:00

Son Elliott. Son

1:07:03

was like his nickname. He was known by him. Roy

1:07:05

Dale was taken to the nearest justice of the peace

1:07:07

and placed under arrest where he reportedly said, I just

1:07:10

had to tell it. I kept seeing it.

1:07:12

I kept hearing those boys moan. The

1:07:15

boys. Another

1:07:17

what happened to the boys was also super fucked up and I'd

1:07:19

be happy to kill Kenny for what he did to them and

1:07:21

nothing else. But that was what

1:07:24

came to your mind first, not the broomstick assault. Roy

1:07:27

and Sheriff Elliott then went to Marlin and picked up

1:07:29

the sheriff of Falls County, Brady Pamplin. The

1:07:32

two sheriffs and Roy Dale went directly to Roy

1:07:34

Dale's house in Marlin. There Roy Dale took them

1:07:36

to the spot where Kenny buried the cult revolver,

1:07:39

but somebody had already dug a backup. Before

1:07:41

the day was out, Roy was placed in jail in

1:07:44

Robertson County and taken back to Fort Worth where he spent

1:07:46

the night. The first authorities thought

1:07:48

that Roy was the mastermind, not Kenny. Kenny's

1:07:51

criminal record and information from Sheriff Brady

1:07:53

Pamplin in Falls County quickly discounted

1:07:56

Roy Dale as the primary villain. And

1:07:58

so on Monday, August. two massive searches

1:08:01

were taken place simultaneously. One

1:08:03

for Louise in Johnson County and another

1:08:05

for Kenny in Falls and Robertson Counties.

1:08:08

Roy couldn't remember exactly where it had all taken place, but

1:08:10

then someone handed him a napkin and he did manage to

1:08:12

draw a map. Based on the map,

1:08:14

he was then brought out to the Northern

1:08:16

Johnson County, to Northern Johnson County in an

1:08:18

area near Egan, where he pointed out

1:08:20

a fence and then he was taken back to

1:08:22

Tarrant County Jail. A local chief of

1:08:25

police, Homer Barnes, Burleson and several other men

1:08:27

searched the area Roy pointed out. And

1:08:29

they soon found Louise's body, lying face down

1:08:31

beneath a thicket of oak trees, barely visible

1:08:33

in the thick grass. Later

1:08:35

two of her uncles would arrive at the scene, oh

1:08:38

my God, how traumatic, and positively

1:08:40

identify her, those poor bastards. By

1:08:43

the time she was identified, Kenny was already

1:08:45

arrested. Finding Kenny was not too difficult.

1:08:48

Roy knew that Kenny had a date with a girl from Bremon

1:08:50

named Joanne. And on the Sunday

1:08:52

night, just as Kenny and Joanne were getting

1:08:54

back, they were ambushed by sheriffs Pamplin and

1:08:56

Elliot. Kenny immediately threw his car in

1:08:59

reverse, floor of the gas pedal, of course he did. Just

1:09:01

as immediate was the response by the sheriffs. Kenny

1:09:04

Pamplin fired two rounds of buckshot, with 12

1:09:06

gauge shotgun at Kenny's radiator and tires. Elliot

1:09:09

fired his pistol at the same areas. Fucking love

1:09:11

it, and I'm fucking around. Kenny

1:09:14

now launched himself out of the car and to the

1:09:16

M&M cafe on Bremon's main street, where he flagged down

1:09:18

Joanne's brother, told him that somebody was shooting at him.

1:09:21

Meanwhile, Sheriff Brady Pamplin told his son, also

1:09:23

employed by the police department, to park a

1:09:25

couple blocks away, stay out of danger. But

1:09:28

once Larry Pamplin heard the shots, he pulled up, picked

1:09:30

up the two sheriffs, gave chase and caught up to

1:09:32

the boys. Brady Pamplin told them

1:09:34

to stop and get out with their hands up, and

1:09:37

they did. The only question

1:09:39

Kenny had for the officers was whether his

1:09:41

insurance would pay for the bullet holes in

1:09:43

his car or not. What

1:09:45

a dip, hey man, you kind of fucked up

1:09:47

my ride. Is that, you guys gonna pay

1:09:49

for that? You're gonna have to

1:09:52

pay for that. The sheriffs knew that

1:09:54

they had the right guy. Someone so cold

1:09:56

and calculating, he didn't even ask why he was being chased

1:09:58

down by the cops. August

1:10:01

9, 1966, after Kenny McFuck

1:10:03

that guy McDuff was back in jail

1:10:05

for the broomstick murders, the state of Texas had

1:10:07

revoked his parole for the burglaries. He

1:10:09

was jailed on suspicion of multiple things, murder, rape,

1:10:11

destruction of evidence. Joanne had told

1:10:14

police he and Lonnie had done something suspicious behind a

1:10:16

barn. If I take that gun, hit it.

1:10:19

Lonnie would be arrested too for fraudulently and illegally

1:10:21

concealing a weapon used for murder. Yeah,

1:10:23

took the gun. His bond would be set at $10,000, later increased to $20,000, and

1:10:25

he'd be represented by a Waco attorney

1:10:29

named Godfrey Sullivan. Meanwhile,

1:10:31

most Rosebud residents weren't surprised that Kenny

1:10:34

was involved in something so terrible, and

1:10:36

they weren't surprised that the McDuff family was

1:10:38

rushing to support Kenny and Lonnie. They

1:10:41

got the youngest McDuff child, a 12-year-old girl, to

1:10:43

lie and say that Lonnie had been with her at

1:10:45

the movies when he was definitely not

1:10:48

destroying evidence. What

1:10:50

a great couple of parents Kenny and Lonnie

1:10:53

have. When this little sister

1:10:55

was asked directly if she saw Kenny at the home

1:10:57

at all recently, she cried out that she had not,

1:10:59

but said, Kenneth had not done all those things.

1:11:03

Meanwhile in jail, Kenny behaved as he had always done it

1:11:05

in school, saying little except for

1:11:07

profanity, and he never smiled. Every

1:11:10

day he had to appear in court. The grim-faced fuck wore

1:11:12

a dark suit and tie. You can find

1:11:15

pics on the web of him from court. It

1:11:17

truly looks like an evil motherfucker. The

1:11:20

trial began in November of 1966. Kenneth,

1:11:22

sweet, sweet Kenneth, will be

1:11:24

prosecuted by Tarrant County District Attorney Doug Crouch,

1:11:27

a steel-jogged, no-nonsense war hero who had fought in

1:11:29

the South Pacific in World War II. Working

1:11:33

with ADA's Grady Height and Charles, aka

1:11:35

Charlie Butts, he

1:11:38

made it clear that he would seek the death penalty for both

1:11:40

boys, Kenneth McDuff and Roy

1:11:42

Dale Green. And yes, we

1:11:45

have now had a man with the last

1:11:47

name of A.C.O.K. in this story, and

1:11:49

a man with the name of Butts, B-U-T-T-S,

1:11:52

A.C.O.K. and Butts. Are you kidding me?

1:11:56

Thank you, Nimrott. Too bad they

1:11:58

weren't partners at the same law firm. Oh man,

1:12:00

they could have legally had the best law office

1:12:02

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1:12:04

FCC would not be able to stop them. Hey,

1:12:10

are you tired of life bending you over? Started

1:12:12

getting kicked while you're down? How

1:12:14

about, instead of just continuing to take it, you

1:12:16

turn things around and flip the script? It's

1:12:19

high time that you put a cock-a-butt on

1:12:22

the case and start taking what's yours. When

1:12:25

you hire the law officers with a cock-a-butt, you don't

1:12:27

just get some legal advice. You

1:12:29

get some litigation action and satisfaction. So

1:12:31

put a cock-a-butt. And then

1:12:33

in her face, I mean, put a cock-a-butt on the

1:12:36

case. That's why I said both times. You

1:12:38

must hurt me the first time. They

1:12:40

forgot to put up a caution wet floor

1:12:42

sign, and now instead of tasting a double

1:12:45

cheeseburger, you got two slipped discs in sciatica.

1:12:47

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1:12:50

it creates their legal defenses to shoot some

1:12:52

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1:12:55

You got rear end on the freeway, and now they don't want

1:12:57

to make good? Maybe the threat of a cock-a-butt.

1:12:59

We're gonna have to do what they should. When

1:13:01

you hire the law officers with a cock-a-butts, you

1:13:03

don't just get a cock. You don't

1:13:06

just get butts. You get a cock and butts. For

1:13:08

a price of low, it's nuts. We're gonna

1:13:10

stick it to them. We're gonna stick it in them. We're

1:13:13

gonna stick it all over them. And if we have to, we're

1:13:15

gonna go fuck their butts. I mean, we're

1:13:17

gonna go full a cock-a-butt. That's why I said both

1:13:19

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1:13:23

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1:13:25

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1:13:27

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1:13:30

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Thank you for sticking around. And now

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let's go over the details of Kenny's first

1:16:42

murder trial. Kenny's

1:16:46

attorney was Godfrey Sullivan, who we mentioned before.

1:16:49

Can't do much with his name. What a bummer. Judge

1:16:52

Byron Matthews would preside. I was

1:16:55

really hoping for someone named Judge Harry Whitt Puss or

1:16:57

something, but okay. Before this, Judge

1:16:59

Matthews had been one of the best lawyers

1:17:01

in Northern Texas, one of the first inducted

1:17:03

into the Texas Criminal Defense Lawyers Association Hall

1:17:05

of Fame. The jury consisted

1:17:07

of nine men and three women, and there

1:17:09

was the reigning Texas mother of the year,

1:17:11

Addie McDuff. Surrounded by her

1:17:13

daughters and vindicated by the fact that charges against Lonnie

1:17:16

had been dropped for unspecified reasons, she took her seat

1:17:18

in the courtroom and watched every moment of the trial.

1:17:21

Over and over again, Addie whined that Brady

1:17:23

Pamplin and the police department had finally succeeded

1:17:25

in getting Kenny into trouble. Like

1:17:27

this was all a conspiracy against her sweet baby

1:17:29

boy. He's a victim. She

1:17:32

maintained Kenny's innocence by claiming that he was with a young girl

1:17:34

at the time of the murders. According

1:17:36

to Addie, the family wouldn't identify the girl because she

1:17:38

was a nice girl from church. I

1:17:41

hope Addie is burning in hell right now. I don't

1:17:44

even actually believe in hell, but right now I want

1:17:47

hell to be real and I want Addie to

1:17:49

be burning there forever. She knows

1:17:51

damn well there is no such girl. Kenny's

1:17:54

defense amounted to a simple proposition. Roy Dale

1:17:56

Green had committed the broomstick murders and framed

1:17:58

him. The trial was was is you

1:18:00

would expect intense. Featured

1:18:02

the emotional testimony of Mrs. Jack Brand,

1:18:04

Robert's mother, and Mrs. Sullivan, Louise's mother.

1:18:07

Whew. Mrs. Brand

1:18:09

identified the striped shirt that Kenneth and Roy had

1:18:11

used to wife away fingerprints on the Ford and

1:18:13

the roomstick as belonging to Robert. The

1:18:16

trial also featured heartbreaking testimony about the victim's

1:18:18

bodies and the causes of their deaths. Louise's

1:18:21

sexual assaults and murder was described in

1:18:23

excruciating detail to a jury of

1:18:25

a small town people that probably had never so much to seen

1:18:28

a couple share a bed on TV. A

1:18:30

lot of minds blown, a lot of stomachs turned upside down, a lot of

1:18:32

tears. Grady Heights and

1:18:34

Charlie Butts replicated in specific detail the route that

1:18:36

the boys had taken on the night of the

1:18:38

murders. And then they took it a step

1:18:40

further and proved that Kenny had scoped out the area first. Mr.

1:18:43

McAllister, who owned the nearby farmhouse, reported seeing Kenny

1:18:45

there earlier in the summer in a Mustang that

1:18:48

he later totaled. But the

1:18:50

biggest piece of testimony came from someone who had

1:18:52

already shared his side of the story, Roy Dale

1:18:54

Green. In his shaky voice,

1:18:56

he recounted the events of the night, sometimes

1:18:58

dropping down to a barely audible

1:19:00

whisper. But his horrified appearance

1:19:02

actually gave him more credibility with the jury. This

1:19:05

was clearly a kid who was scared out of his gorg

1:19:07

and very ashamed of what he had done. Then

1:19:10

on Saturday, November 13th, 1966, just

1:19:12

from the spectators of the courtroom, thought

1:19:15

the trial could not get any more dramatic, Godfrey

1:19:18

Sullivan announced, if the court please,

1:19:20

the defendant would like to take the stand on his own

1:19:22

behalf. Unknowingly, Kenny was about

1:19:24

to dig his own grave. According

1:19:26

to Kenny, during the broomstick murders, he was

1:19:28

asleep in a burned out

1:19:30

shopping center in

1:19:33

Everman. In direct contradiction to

1:19:35

what the jurors had seen for themselves only

1:19:37

a day or two before, Kenny described Roy

1:19:39

Dale as angry, frustrated, just determined to look

1:19:41

for girls. Kenny said he

1:19:43

left Roy Dale and sat down beside

1:19:45

a wall, or sat down beside a

1:19:47

wall and went to sleep. This

1:19:52

did not sound like the Roy Dale that the jury had heard from just

1:19:54

a few days before. After his testimony,

1:19:56

Charlie Butts, headed

1:19:58

up to cross-examine him. And because

1:20:00

Kenny had admitted his testimony to getting in a

1:20:02

little bit of trouble with the police before, that

1:20:05

opened the door for Charlie to ask him about

1:20:07

this trouble and establish a pattern of law-breaking behavior.

1:20:10

As Kenny detailed his pre-murder crimes, he looked

1:20:12

visibly nervous, cracking his knuckles over and over.

1:20:15

One juror later reported that he looked like he was about to rip

1:20:17

his knuckles off of his hands. Soon

1:20:19

it was time for the final arguments. Doug

1:20:21

Crouch made the closing argument for the prosecution.

1:20:24

And on November 15th, the jury was told

1:20:26

to deliberate. They would deliberate

1:20:28

from between three and four hours. The

1:20:31

state wasn't entirely sure of their victory. After all, they'd failed

1:20:33

to produce a murder weapon in the form of the gun

1:20:35

or the broomstick. But they had a

1:20:37

feeling that the jury would listen to Roy Dale Green. And

1:20:40

when the jury came back, three women had tears

1:20:42

in their eyes. Judge Matthews

1:20:44

read their verdict, guilty. Everyone

1:20:47

reacted to the verdict and the death sentence it carried in

1:20:50

silence. Even mommy,

1:20:52

addy, ass face. Then

1:20:54

a wave of deputies surrounded Kenny and quickly escorted him out

1:20:56

of the courtroom. Everyone besides the McDuff

1:20:58

seemed relieved. Also an attempt for

1:21:00

a retrial by Kenny's defense team quickly failed. An

1:21:03

attempt that was pretty funny. During

1:21:05

deliberations, the bailiff had provided the sequestered jury with a

1:21:07

bottle of booze for a quick snort. This

1:21:11

issue made it to Judge Matthews' bench when

1:21:13

Godfrey Sullivan asked for a new trial on the

1:21:15

basis of the jurors' intoxication. But

1:21:18

Charlie Butts argued that the statute

1:21:20

prohibited intoxication, not an innocent snort,

1:21:22

by tired and lonely jurors. I

1:21:25

like to tell you, Butts. Judge Matthews denied

1:21:27

the motion for a new trial once he was thoroughly

1:21:29

convinced that none of the jurors had gotten intoxicated. More

1:21:32

than 30 years later, with some measure of

1:21:34

glee, Butts would recount the appeals

1:21:36

court referring to the booze as

1:21:38

a bottle of needful. Meanwhile,

1:21:43

Roy Dale Green, represented by his

1:21:45

attorney, Brantley Pringle, pled guilty to

1:21:47

murder without malice in the death of Marcus Dunham and

1:21:50

received a five-year prison sentence. He

1:21:53

pled guilty to murder with malice for

1:21:55

the murder of Luis Sullivan. And

1:21:57

that, you know, kept him from a death sentence.

1:22:00

He sensed a 25 years instead and

1:22:02

also maybe faced the wrath of other prisoners for ratting

1:22:04

out his co-murderer. Roy

1:22:06

would end up serving 13 years before being paroled in 1979.

1:22:10

McDuff was put into the Tarrant County Jail,

1:22:12

pending an automatic appeal to the

1:22:14

Texas Court of Criminal Appeals. On

1:22:16

October 8, 1968, the court affirmed his

1:22:18

conviction and his first date with the

1:22:20

electric chair was set, December 3, 1968. He

1:22:24

should have died before he turned 23. That's

1:22:27

what the initial ruling had decreed. The

1:22:30

higher court ruling cleared the way for his relocation

1:22:32

to state prison and he arrived at the Texas

1:22:34

Department of Corrections, October 9, 1968. At

1:22:37

prison, Kenny served as a building or block tender

1:22:40

type of prison hall monitor who had special privileges to keep

1:22:42

order in their section of the prison. It

1:22:44

is rumored that he was involved in smuggling and using drugs, possibly

1:22:47

with the help of his brother Lonnie, who helped smuggle

1:22:49

the drugs into prison. Sounds about right for

1:22:51

those two. Two IQ tests

1:22:53

were given to Kenny in prison, found a score of 92 the

1:22:56

first time, 84 the second. Had

1:22:58

him at about a seventh grade achievement level. While

1:23:01

waiting to die, he got his GED through the

1:23:03

Wyndham school system. I'm not

1:23:05

sure what the point of that was. Maybe he wanted his

1:23:07

final words to be more grammatically correct or something. He

1:23:10

was supposed to have only a couple months of prison before he met

1:23:12

his death, but as you know, that will not happen. It's

1:23:15

unclear why the first date, December 3, was not

1:23:17

a go. The second pushback would be

1:23:19

the result of a clerical error. A

1:23:22

clerical error that would result in at least six more

1:23:24

dead bodies. In the

1:23:26

charges of the capital murder and rape of Edna

1:23:28

Louise Sullivan, Kenny, through his attorney had filed a

1:23:30

writ for a quick and speedy trial. The

1:23:33

writ would be received by the court in Johnson County June

1:23:35

15, 1970, and was incorrectly treated

1:23:38

as writ of habeas corpus and

1:23:40

then denied. Over seven years later,

1:23:42

September 15, 1977,

1:23:44

McDuff's new attorney, Gary Jackson of Dallas,

1:23:46

Texas, correctly argued that the writ for

1:23:49

a quick and speedy trial should have been granted at the

1:23:51

time. Thus, Kennes had been

1:23:53

denied a constitutional right. And yes,

1:23:55

you were correct, Gary, but also,

1:23:58

why could he just tip your fucking mouth shut? Did

1:24:00

you not know about the broomstick? Jackson's

1:24:03

motion included arguments assuming McDuff's innocence in

1:24:05

the Marcus Dunham conviction. Judge

1:24:08

Byron Croissier's ruling accepted Jackson's argument of

1:24:10

the denial of a speedy trial, but

1:24:12

clearly rejected the notion of Kenneth's innocence.

1:24:15

Still the murder and rape charges against Kenneth were

1:24:17

dismissed March 8, 1978. Duh!

1:24:23

To the horror of those back in Rosebud and the

1:24:25

victim's families, Kenny asserted that he had never been tried

1:24:27

or convicted of doing anything to Louise Sullivan. And

1:24:29

he was technically right since the denial

1:24:31

of his constitutional rights invalidated that particular

1:24:33

conviction, all because of a clerical

1:24:35

error. What a bunch of bullshit in this

1:24:37

context. Now another thing would

1:24:40

make Kenny McDuff an even luckier man. In

1:24:42

1967, a man named William Henry Furman

1:24:44

burglarized a house in Georgia and unwittingly

1:24:46

shot someone behind a closed door. And

1:24:49

for that he was given the death penalty. But

1:24:51

then his case would go all the way to the U.S. Supreme Court

1:24:53

in Furman versus Georgia. And

1:24:55

the court's ruling would be very favorable to

1:24:57

men like Kenneth McDuff. The

1:24:59

five to four decision pretty much reflected

1:25:02

contemporaneous American division over the death penalty

1:25:04

issue. The majority ruled that in

1:25:06

the case of Furman and in the cases of a couple

1:25:08

of other death sentence dudes, the

1:25:10

imposition and carrying out of the death

1:25:13

penalty constituted cruel and unusual punishment and

1:25:15

unequal protection in violation of the 8th

1:25:17

and 14th amendments. Okay?

1:25:20

I mean the guy did kill somebody.

1:25:23

Somebody in their home, somebody Furman was robbing for fuck's

1:25:25

sake. Also after Furman gets

1:25:27

out of prison, he goes back to burglarizing

1:25:29

homes and

1:25:32

eventually goes back to prison for another long stretch. So that's a

1:25:34

good thing he was released. Good thing his life was spared. The

1:25:37

8th amendment limits the criminal justice system's ability to

1:25:39

punish people who have been accused or convicted of

1:25:41

a crime, the whole cruel and unusual

1:25:44

punishment amendment. The 14th

1:25:46

amendment is more varied among other provisions. It states

1:25:48

that no state can deprive a person of life,

1:25:50

liberty or property without due process of law. Justices

1:25:53

Brennan and Marshall, both lifelong opponents of the death

1:25:55

penalty, argued that the death

1:25:58

penalty constituted cruel and unusual punishment. Brennan

1:26:01

asserted that it did not comport with

1:26:03

human dignity. Marshall argued that

1:26:05

it was impermissible because it

1:26:07

was morally unacceptable and excessive.

1:26:11

Is it excessive? It's

1:26:13

a pretty subjective word, so it's unacceptable.

1:26:17

Justices Douglas, Stewart, and White argued that

1:26:19

the infrequency of executions were

1:26:21

evidence of unequal application. Basically

1:26:24

argued that if we're going to apply the death penalty

1:26:26

to different situations, and then sometimes those death

1:26:28

penalties are carried out and sometimes they are not, how

1:26:30

can we say the death penalty is truly justified?

1:26:34

I mean it's an interesting argument. Justice

1:26:36

Potter Stewart compared it to being struck by lightning. Both

1:26:38

were cruel and unusual because so much

1:26:41

was left up to chance. Ah!

1:26:44

Except people getting struck by lightning aren't almost always

1:26:47

rapists and murderers. And

1:26:49

Justice Brennan, the most eloquent and outspoken opponent of

1:26:51

capital punishment, wrote, when a country

1:26:53

of over 200 million people inflicts an unusually

1:26:55

severe punishment, no more than 50 times a

1:26:58

year, the inference is strong

1:27:00

that the punishment is not being regularly

1:27:02

and fairly applied. I

1:27:04

mean that is an interesting legal argument.

1:27:08

Strange, but okay. Oddly enough, these

1:27:10

arguments suggested the death penalty could be made

1:27:12

more equitable by increasing its use, but

1:27:16

the direct implication was that giving juries

1:27:18

near unlimited discretion over sentences was unconstitutional.

1:27:21

A major ruling in favor of those opposed to the death

1:27:23

penalty. But it wasn't all a

1:27:25

party for anti-death penalty folks through the firm

1:27:27

and ruling the Supreme Court showed states how to make

1:27:29

death penalty laws constitutional and

1:27:32

almost every state would rush to

1:27:34

pass laws assuring a more equal

1:27:36

application, making executions far more, not

1:27:39

less common, in the United States. The

1:27:41

ruling was a result of a very complicated legal

1:27:43

battle over one of our most basic societal tools,

1:27:45

to be able to dispose of the monsters in

1:27:47

our midst or to not dispose of

1:27:50

them, but instead place them in a cage where they

1:27:52

might not get out and many would

1:27:54

get out because of this ruling. The

1:27:56

nearly 600 men and women on death rows throughout the country,

1:27:59

including a hundred and in Texas, magically now

1:28:01

had their sentences commuted to life in

1:28:03

prison. And many of them,

1:28:05

thanks to other laws in various states that

1:28:07

did not currently allow life without the possibility

1:28:09

of parole, would be eligible for parole in

1:28:11

a surprisingly short time, including Kenneth

1:28:13

Allen McDuff. This

1:28:16

psychos first parole hearing was on April 4th, 1976.

1:28:20

Right? He's not even

1:28:22

in prison for 10 years. That's

1:28:24

crazy. His next one, February

1:28:27

18th, 1977, then November 16th, 1977, my God. Luckily,

1:28:32

those did not result in his

1:28:34

release. But that's crazy. On

1:28:37

January 11th, 1979, parole board

1:28:39

member and obvious fucking idiot, Edward

1:28:41

Johnson, cast the first favorable

1:28:43

vote for Kenneth's parole. Other

1:28:46

two members, however, voted no. The

1:28:48

second board member to vote for approval was another idiot,

1:28:50

Helen Capitka, January 2nd, 1980. Again,

1:28:54

this was a lone yes vote and Kenneth was forced to stay in prison

1:28:56

for the time being. The two lone yes

1:28:59

votes must have been frustrating because in

1:29:01

his next parole hearing in 1981, during

1:29:03

an interview with board member, Glenn Heckman,

1:29:05

McDuff said, I don't know how to put this, but

1:29:08

if you give me out on parole, I guarantee you'll find $10,000

1:29:10

in the glove compartment of your car. Stun

1:29:14

Heckman simply continued with the interview, but McDuff did not let

1:29:16

up. What I said

1:29:18

earlier, I meant you'll have $10,000 in

1:29:20

the glove compartment of your car before I leave. You

1:29:22

can get me out. You're the vote I need, he said. A

1:29:26

few minutes later, Heckman reported the bribery directly

1:29:28

to local prosecutors, resulting in

1:29:30

McDuff's conviction for bribery, August 6th,

1:29:33

1982, which added another two years to a sense or

1:29:35

would have, but it ran concurrently. So

1:29:38

essentially he literally was not punished at all for

1:29:41

openly bribing or trying to bribe a parole board

1:29:43

member. Our justice

1:29:45

system is ran so nonsensical far

1:29:48

too often. This fucking concurrent bullshit.

1:29:51

Kenny is still in prison, but for how long? In

1:29:53

1982, he's still only 36 years old. Now

1:29:56

he gets another lucky break. Around the same

1:29:58

time as Furman versus George and many people. prisoners had begun

1:30:00

to make complaints about stuff like overcrowding, poor

1:30:03

medical care, and the use of building

1:30:05

tenders as guards of other inmates. Building

1:30:07

tenders, which Kenneth was one, kept control of

1:30:09

their areas and thus got preferential treatment from

1:30:11

guards. One inmate, a guy

1:30:13

named David Ruiz, who was serving 25 years for

1:30:15

armed robbery, took his complaint to the courts. The

1:30:18

Ruiz case went before U.S. District Judge

1:30:20

William Wayne Justice of Tyler, Texas. Dude

1:30:24

was literally Judge Justice, his last

1:30:26

name was Justice, like a

1:30:28

second time as a character. Thus

1:30:30

began the longest and most expensive trial in the history

1:30:32

of Texas. So let's get to the end. Judge

1:30:35

Justice's ruling concluded that the system

1:30:37

violated inmate rights through crowding, poor

1:30:39

medical care, using inmates

1:30:41

as guards, brutality by professional

1:30:44

guards, and unconstitutional grievance and

1:30:46

discipline procedures. He

1:30:49

ordered a complete overhaul of the prison system and

1:30:51

set up federal monitors to assure compliance. In

1:30:54

1987, Judge Justice ruled

1:30:56

that occupancy above 95 percent

1:30:58

capacity, or about 48,400 inmates,

1:31:01

was a violation of prisoners' human rights. That's for all

1:31:03

of Texas, that number. As

1:31:05

a result, county jails became filled with backlogged

1:31:07

state prisoners awaiting transfer to prisons that had

1:31:09

no space. In some areas,

1:31:12

county jails became so crowded that 10 cities

1:31:14

of prisoners were discussed. This

1:31:16

coincided with the time of reduced spending and the

1:31:18

Reagan-led campaign against big governments. So where was the

1:31:21

money going to come from to overhaul these prisons?

1:31:24

Nowhere. The prisons were basically shit

1:31:26

out of luck. As the backlog of

1:31:28

felons clogged county jails and the populace reacted

1:31:30

in horror to the notion of criminal tent

1:31:32

cities surrounded by chain link fences near neighborhoods,

1:31:35

public officials had only one tool left

1:31:37

to ease overcrowding and regain control of

1:31:39

the prisons from both the inmates and

1:31:41

the government. More parole.

1:31:44

Put pressure on parole boards to release as

1:31:46

many prisoners as possible. Awesome. It

1:31:49

seemed to a lot of politicians like a good

1:31:51

option considering that parole hearings seldom if ever generated

1:31:53

public interest in an age-long trial before, you know,

1:31:56

social media and watchdog groups. Parole

1:31:58

boards could quietly release offenders avoid

1:32:00

criticism or accountability and

1:32:02

were thus able to turn their attention to

1:32:04

the funding and regulation snafu without having to

1:32:06

increase taxes. The detective Department of

1:32:09

Corrections instructed the parole board to

1:32:11

release a hundred and fifty

1:32:13

prisoners a day at

1:32:16

least 700 prisoners a week and

1:32:18

at least three thousand a month or thirty six thousand

1:32:20

a year. That was a mandate. They wanted nearly 75%

1:32:24

of the incarcerated population released in the

1:32:26

near future and this mandate

1:32:28

created a fucking crazy thing called parole and absentia

1:32:30

or PIA which meant that an inmate while housed

1:32:32

in a county jail could get parole from a

1:32:34

state prison without ever having spent a day in

1:32:37

the prison. What the fuck? This

1:32:39

actually happened not that long ago. So

1:32:42

to recap an unelected federal judge seizes

1:32:45

a prison system and places the rights of

1:32:47

prisoners over the safety of the public then

1:32:49

the state not wanting to increase taxes responds

1:32:51

with a resounding lack of political courage. Fuck

1:32:53

yeah bro and because of all

1:32:55

this the people of Texas will wake up one day

1:32:57

to find out that felons will soon be arriving into

1:32:59

their communities in droves. A lot of

1:33:01

them rapists and murderers. Now

1:33:04

let's reconnect with Kenneth McDuffigan. In

1:33:06

1982 and 1983 his parole attempts had been

1:33:09

denied unanimously. March 19th

1:33:11

1984 board members sued Cunningham

1:33:13

cast a favorable vote and Kenny

1:33:15

is back on the road to parole. She'd

1:33:17

vote for him twice more. She sounds like a brain surgeon. In 1984

1:33:19

and 1985 but she was the only one. She's very

1:33:23

wise. Also in 1985 twin

1:33:25

brother Lonnie was arrested and charged with theft of more

1:33:27

than $750 and later

1:33:30

with possession of methamphetamine. Oh

1:33:32

yes meth! Of course

1:33:34

Lonnie's on meth. If I

1:33:37

had to pick one drug for he or any other

1:33:39

member of the McDuff family to abuse it would for

1:33:41

sure be meth followed closely by crack. Then

1:33:44

on January 5th 1986 after a dispute

1:33:46

between Lonnie, Lonnie's girlfriend Michelle, his friend

1:33:48

and co-worker Larry and Larry's wife Doris.

1:33:51

Larry shoots Lonnie at Larry's

1:33:53

house in Rogers Texas. Lonnie

1:34:00

allegedly made a pass at Doris. That

1:34:03

sounds like some shit Lonnie would do. He

1:34:05

and Kenny, they started to remind me

1:34:08

as this went on, of like an

1:34:10

evil upside down world version of Bo

1:34:12

and Luke Duke from the Duke's the

1:34:14

Hazard. Just

1:34:21

a good old boys, always

1:34:25

making some harm, things

1:34:29

a lot to their maul, they've been

1:34:31

trouble with law since the day they

1:34:33

was born. Healing

1:34:36

high school girls, hitting

1:34:39

other man's wives, or

1:34:41

on them. Never

1:34:44

doing nothing for the world, nothing

1:34:46

good, not wanting their lives. Fucking

1:34:50

shit up, only

1:34:53

way they know how. Doing

1:34:57

so much evil way more than

1:34:59

the law will allow.

1:35:03

Just a shithead boys, it does fit right.

1:35:06

Anyway, dipshit Lonnie gets shot.

1:35:08

First shot enters his head through his upper

1:35:10

lip, explore, exploding in his mouth and destroying

1:35:13

his upper teeth on the left side. Second

1:35:15

shot passes through his left temple and out of his

1:35:17

right and he is very dead. Lonnie

1:35:21

dies instantly in the apartment's narrow

1:35:23

hallway, the only person Kenny McDuff ever

1:35:26

cared about and I gotta say, fucking

1:35:28

love it. Love it! Good shot, Larry!

1:35:30

Go there! I don't give

1:35:32

a fuck that happened to him. Remember

1:35:34

when he hit the gun that his bro used in

1:35:36

a triple homicide that included an incredibly violent broomstick rape?

1:35:39

Lonnie was a piece of shit. Only

1:35:41

good thing he ever did was get thrown down a flight of stairs, as

1:35:44

he came by his principal, which made for a

1:35:47

good story. Back to Kenny. In

1:35:50

1986, the three-member panel had unanimously denied

1:35:52

him freedom, but then January

1:35:56

7, 1988, board members Ken Castor and Chris Mealy,

1:35:58

idiots, vote in favor, of Kennedy's

1:36:00

parole. He now appeared to be headed

1:36:02

for freedom until the wave

1:36:05

of letters of protest. For many officials in

1:36:07

Falls County arrives and his approval is revoked.

1:36:10

Okay, which is four months later. The

1:36:12

board reviewed the case again. Ken Kasner, the

1:36:14

only affirmative vote this time. I

1:36:17

wanted to shit on Ken again here but then

1:36:19

I read his obituary. He died in Waco in 2009

1:36:21

to age 79 and actually seemed

1:36:23

like a great guy. Who just tried, maybe too

1:36:25

hard at times, to see the good in people. To

1:36:27

see everyone is worthy of redemption. He

1:36:29

had a big heart. A little bigger than

1:36:32

his brain. That's okay. Meanwhile, political pressure

1:36:34

from Judge Justice's rulings was mounting. In

1:36:37

1988, 28,000, 90 of 49,126 requests,

1:36:42

57% for paroles were approved. In 1989, 34,536

1:36:45

of 61,221 requests, 56% are

1:36:53

approved. And then in 1990, 79% will be approved. 56,442 of 71,074. Basically,

1:37:02

8 out of 10 get approved. Nearly

1:37:04

everyone was being released after only an

1:37:07

initial review. Also, a prisoner could

1:37:09

conceivably get credit for serving a full year in just

1:37:11

22 days with the laws the way they were

1:37:13

then. A lot of fun. In

1:37:16

the midst of this, on September

1:37:18

1st, 1989, Kenny McDuff makes his

1:37:20

15th request for parole. The three-member

1:37:22

panel reviewing the case consisted of

1:37:24

Cora Mosley, Dr. James Granberry, an

1:37:26

orthodontist, and Chris Mealy, the

1:37:28

village idiot. No, he

1:37:30

was not the village idiot. He was actually one of the only

1:37:32

people in history to be born with just a brain stem. Not

1:37:35

a brain, but somehow survive into adulthood. Inspirational,

1:37:38

you know, in a sense. However, literally

1:37:40

not having a brain, his career choices

1:37:42

were limited to only parole board member. I don't

1:37:46

know what he did, but what kind of brain

1:37:48

he had. Mommy, Mommy, why make you bother

1:37:50

mommy? So mama, mommy makes it much weirder.

1:37:52

Mommy Addie, Mama

1:37:54

Addie McDuff had secured another

1:37:57

lawyer for Kenny. She still hadn't given up on

1:37:59

her precious murdering ring. This

1:38:01

lawyer's name was Bill Habern and Bill was ready to

1:38:03

rock and roll. He

1:38:06

employed a parole consultant named Helen Capica who

1:38:08

had voted on at least four of McDuff's

1:38:10

parole requests and Helen would contact Cora Mosley,

1:38:13

pointing out some improprieties which occurred during the

1:38:15

trial. After it discovered

1:38:17

that James Granberry was the friend of McDuff's

1:38:19

former lawyer, Gary Jackson, he abstained and was

1:38:21

replaced by another board member named Henry Keene.

1:38:24

Oh, also Gary Jackson was in the process of securing

1:38:26

the film and TV rights to the McDuff story because

1:38:29

of course he was. No conflict

1:38:31

of interest there. His wife Gloria

1:38:33

Jackson also insisted on extraordinary artistic

1:38:36

control over the project, including

1:38:38

retention of music rights and the selection

1:38:40

of music for the soundtrack, the selection

1:38:42

of creative talent and a veto to assure

1:38:44

fidelity to the objective, whatever that means. Back

1:38:47

to the parole. Officially on September 1st, 1989,

1:38:50

Cora Mosley and Chris Mealy vote to

1:38:52

approve the parole. Henry Keene

1:38:55

votes to deny. Community

1:38:57

decisions would then be reexamined by

1:38:59

a new three-member panel consisting of bizarrely

1:39:01

Chris Mealy and

1:39:04

Henry Keene. What?

1:39:07

We got to have these votes looked at by a

1:39:09

new committee and then the people who just voted just

1:39:11

like moved to a different desk and sit down and

1:39:13

say, yeah, no, it looks good to us. So

1:39:16

two out of three of the first people are now on

1:39:18

the second panel and they keep their vote

1:39:20

the same. And then Dr. James

1:39:23

Granberry, who only two weeks earlier had abstained from voting

1:39:25

on their request. Now votes.

1:39:27

Okay. Interesting. Later, people would

1:39:29

think that Addie McDuff paid off one or more

1:39:32

of these parole board members. Granberry

1:39:35

cast the deciding vote. September 14th, 1989,

1:39:37

slightly less than 23 years after being

1:39:39

convicted of the broomstick murders, Kenneth

1:39:42

Allen McDuff has been granted parole.

1:39:45

On September 24th, he's transferred to the Michael unit

1:39:47

for processing out of the prison system. By

1:39:50

October 5th, McDuff's parole certificate had been issued.

1:39:53

And on October 11th, 1989,

1:39:55

this sadistic soulless, 43 year

1:39:57

old motherfucker walks free. Immediately,

1:40:00

people in Rosebud are worried. Oh

1:40:03

yeah, I imagine there was a quick spike in gun and ammo

1:40:05

sales. It would make sense. People