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Short Sucks. I'm Dan Cummins, and
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today we are exploring the Keddie
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Cabin Murders. Do you
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live in a quiet little town? Does it
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have a dark, enduring mystery? A
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terrible crime that left the entire community in shock.
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A crime that wasn't supposed to happen in a place
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like this. A dark, brutal
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crime that has never been solved. A
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crime that completely changed the future of your
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community. One that left a terrible stain cast
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a dark shadow that remains to this day.
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The small, unincorporated Northern California
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community of Keddie had
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just such a crime occur over 40 years ago.
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The Keddie Cabin Murders. One
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horrible night that to
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this day is still by far what
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the little community is unfortunately most
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known for. Prior
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to April 11th, 1981, the
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worst Saturday night in the community's history, life
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was simple in the small resort community
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of Keddie. Not even a
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town, Keddie was and still is a
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census designated place in the truly beautiful
1:57
picturesque Plumas County, California. Plumas
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County named for the Spanish Rio de Las
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Pumas, the Feather River which flows through it,
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is located just northwest of Lake Tahoe,
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in between Reno, Nevada and Reading, California,
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at the northern tip of the Sierra Nevada mountain
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range. Prior to gold strikes
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in 1848, bringing in European Americans, small
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decentralized tribes of mountain Maidu people
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lived in the area for centuries,
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subsisting on everything from roots, acorns,
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grasses and seeds, to fish
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and big game like deer and elk. The
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mountain is heavily forested, rugged area has
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always been sparsely populated. As of
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the last census count in 2020, despite
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having over 2500 square miles of land, less
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than 20,000 people live in
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Plumas County. The largest community
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in the entire county is East Quincy, which
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is roughly 2500 people. Keddie
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now only has around 60 people, down
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from close to 100 at the time of the murders.
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A substantial population drop for a place whose
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population has never been very substantial.
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Ever since the murders, Keddie has been slowly slipping
2:59
off the map. Back in
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1981, before the murders, Keddie was a
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popular vacation locale not far from the
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famed Feather River Canyon. Highway 70
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cuts through the bottom of Feather River Canyon,
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which was designated as a scenic byway for
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good reason. The north fork of
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the Feather River dramatically cuts through the Sierra
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Crest, with nearly a mild deep canyon spanning
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from Bald Eagle Peak, at an elevation of
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7,183 feet, to
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the tiny community of Tobin, population
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of only 12 at
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the last census, at 1,992
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feet. Is your community
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even a community when the entire
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population could be comprised of just
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one very large family? The
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beautiful crystal clear Feather River is full
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of huge granite boulders and waterfalls cascading
3:44
around seemingly every corner. It really is
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a beautiful country. The whole area
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seems to cater to people looking for peace and quiet. People
3:52
coming to go camping and fishing, maybe
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zip around on some dirt roads and
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their side-by-sides. People coming to relax in
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the great outdoors, numerous beautiful people. beautiful campgrounds,
4:00
RV parks, and lodges where I bet you
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can find a mean stack of pancakes and
4:04
biscuits and gravy made from scratch, pepper
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the landscape. Mountain lakes full
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of kayaks and stand-up paddle boards abound. There
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are a hundred miles of hiking trails, hundreds
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of miles, excuse me, the overwhelming majority of
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the country or county is protected
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forest land and you're bound to
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run into mountain bikers or picnicers if you show up on
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a sunny day. You'll also likely see a lot
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of wild game. Deer, beavers, maybe some
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black bear, more. Little
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towns once known for mining and logging are
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now known more for art galleries and tourism in
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the county. This is
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a place I would visually associate with
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Columbia and Patagonia jackets, Tiva sandals, fishing
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poles, and yoga mats much
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more than I would ever associate with murder. Teddy
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was once one of the county's many
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popular vacation destinations. Teddy
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had a hotel complete with a bar and
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restaurant, general store, a post office, and a
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boarding house where some Feather River Community College
4:55
students lived, a tiny college catering
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to local rural students. The only college in
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the county is located in a little
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1600 person-ish town of
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Quincy just six miles away from Teddy where
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many from Teddy work, where their kids go to
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school, and playing baseball leagues, and so forth. People
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used to come to Teddy to go horseback riding,
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to pan gold, to stay in a rustic lodge
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or cabin for a weekend with their family. People
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came to relax to get away from their troubles,
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for many troubles. They came to get
5:23
away from the stress of the city, stressors like violent
5:25
crime. Sue Sharp came to
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the area to start a new life. Full
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name, Glenna Susan Sharp, she went
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by Sue. The 34
5:34
year old homemaker moved to the county in July
5:37
of 1979 after separating
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from her husband, a Navy man
5:41
who was allegedly physically abusive, James
5:43
Sharp. They'd been living
5:45
back in North Carolina, although some
5:47
sources say they left Connecticut. Sue's
5:50
brother Don lived in the area and originally she
5:52
moved into a small rented trailer that Don had
5:54
lived in at the Claremont trailer village
5:56
in Quincy. She brought her five kids with her, 15
5:59
year old, and a couple of her friends. old John, went by Johnny,
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14 year old Sheila, 12 year
6:03
old Tina, 10 year old Ricky, and
6:06
5 year old Greg. James
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came out to visit his estranged wife and kids in
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Quincy, sometimes shortly after they arrived, and some
6:12
attempt at a reconciliation, but he only showed
6:14
up once. He left and never returned
6:16
after that one visit. I'm
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sure there's a big story there and it
6:21
probably revolves around James being an asshole and
6:23
a deadbeat dad. In October
6:25
of 1980, Sue and her kids moved into
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cabin number 28 at what
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was called the Keddie Resort. The
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Keddie Resort, long closed now, the
6:34
murders were not good for business at all. It
6:37
was never much of a resort. You
6:39
weren't going to get a mani-pedi there,
6:41
deep tissue massage, you weren't going to
6:44
enjoy crafted cocktails, you know, whipped up
6:46
by some fancy mixologist by the infinity
6:48
pool. This was frequently
6:50
described as being rustic, which I
6:52
find is often a nice way of calling a place a
6:55
shithole. It was a
6:57
bare bones hotel, bar, and restaurant way out in
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the woods with a number of standalone cabins in
7:01
addition to the hotel rooms for either short term
7:03
or long term rental. Most
7:06
people living in the cabin seemed to be local staying there for
7:08
months, not for a few nights. The
7:10
Keddie Resort was charming, but a
7:12
backwoods place, you know, a place you'd take your family
7:14
for a real cheap camping trip if you didn't live
7:16
there, or a place to meet some friends, get drunk
7:18
and camp without having to actually pitch a tent or
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make your own meals. The
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cabin the Sharpe family moved into was
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much larger than their previous trailer and
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had become available when Plumas County
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Sheriff Sylvester Douglas Thomas had
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vacated the property. Remember
7:33
Sheriff Doug's name. That dumb
7:35
shit is a big player in today's story. Despite
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being bigger than the trailer they lived in, cabin
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28 was still small for a family of six.
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It only had two bedrooms for Sue and her
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five kids. So 15 year old
7:47
Johnny Sharpe moved into part of the basement that
7:49
could only be accessed from outside.
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This detail is important because Sue now kept her
7:54
doors unlocked around the clock so
7:56
that Johnny could access the upstairs, which included the
7:58
only bathroom whenever he needed it. The
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way the cabin was set up, Johnny would have to go
8:03
outside of the basement, then back inside the cabin on the
8:05
next floor up. When he left the basement,
8:07
he used the bathroom and vice versa. The
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two younger, sharp boys shared one bedroom upstairs
8:12
and Sue and her daughters, Sheila and Tina,
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all shared the other bedroom. Living
8:17
conditions were cramped, but the
8:19
house was cheap and Sue didn't have much money. She
8:22
just left her husband. She was not getting
8:24
child support. She was the homemaker, was raising
8:26
the kids. She got $250 a month from
8:28
the Navy, food stamps, some extra
8:30
cash from a part-time job of some sort
8:32
at the Quincy Elks Lodge, as
8:35
well as a small stipend from a
8:37
California Education Training Act program. Sue
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participated in a typing class at Feather
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River College as part of said education
8:43
program. Also attending
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that class were Marilyn Smart, who
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went by Loon, that's a
8:50
fun nickname, and Martin
8:53
Smart, who went by Marty. Marty
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and Loon, remember their names,
8:57
the Smart's big players in
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this story. Smart's were the
9:01
Sharp's neighbors who lived in two cabins down, cabin 26, less
9:03
than 100 feet away.
9:06
Marilyn and Marty lived in a cabin with
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Marilyn's sons, Justin and Casey. Though
9:11
things were certainly tight financially, the Sharp kids apparently
9:13
loved living in this little cabin community, running
9:15
around with neighbor kids like the Smart's, having
9:17
sleepover just a couple feet away from their
9:19
own cabin and their mother. It
9:21
was a lot of fun to be had. Johnny
9:23
the oldest child had a friend, Dana Wingate, who was two
9:26
years older than he was, 17 years old. Dana
9:29
lived down the road in Quincy. Dana was off and over
9:32
at the Sharp household. The two
9:34
boys would frequently hitchhike the seven miles to nearby
9:36
Quincy, six, seven miles where they both went to
9:38
school to see what fun could be had in
9:41
the bigger census designated area. And
9:43
that was precisely what they did, several times
9:46
on the day of the murders, Saturday, April
9:48
11th, 1981. The
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Saturday morning of the 11th began like any other, hanging
9:54
out, visiting friends, enjoying time with
9:56
family. Around 1130 a.m.
9:58
Sue Sharp. 14-year-old daughter Sheila
10:00
and 5-year-old son Greg drove from their
10:03
friends, the Meeks House. The
10:05
Meeks will not factor into the story, so don't
10:07
worry about keeping track of the Meeks. You know
10:09
what? Fuck the Meeks. Forget I even
10:11
brought up those no-name dipshits. They
10:14
drove to go pick up Sue's 10-year-old
10:16
Ricky, who was attending baseball tryouts in
10:18
Quincy. And now I'm—there's so
10:20
many kids in this episode. Okay. I was making
10:22
sure I didn't give Ricky's age wrong. I had
10:24
him confused with Greg in my mind for a
10:27
second there. Along the way back, they ran into
10:29
Sue's oldest son, Johnny and his friend Dana, hitchhiking
10:31
at the mouth of the canyon from Quincy to
10:33
Kettie. So Sue picked him up, drove
10:36
everyone back to her house. Two hours
10:38
later, at around 3.30 p.m., Johnny
10:40
and Dana hitchhiked back into Quincy—they did this
10:42
all the time—where they planned to go to
10:44
a party. A woman
10:46
named Donna Williams, also a
10:49
nobody in the story, fucked the Meeks and
10:51
fucked Donna Williams, picked the boys up, gave
10:53
them a ride to the home in Quincy where the party was at. Meanwhile,
10:56
the rest of the Sharpe family was having a lazy afternoon at home.
10:59
Early that evening, Sue made dinner and then did the dishes
11:01
around 8. About a
11:03
half hour later, 14-year-old Sheila, 12-year-old Tina,
11:06
left to watch TV at the Seabolt family's cabin,
11:08
cabin 27, directly next door. The
11:12
Seabolts, also not really big players in
11:14
the story, but they did see something,
11:17
and, you know, some of—one of
11:19
the Sharps kids stayed there. We're
11:23
not going to say fuck them. Parents Paula and
11:25
Pearl Seabolt looked out a front window
11:27
that evening, noticed a green van parked outside
11:29
of cabin 28 at around 9 p.m. They
11:32
would later tell investigators that they didn't recognize this
11:34
green van, which was odd because
11:36
their sexy cabins were all being lived in
11:38
by long-term tenants. Everyone seemed to know
11:40
everyone. Around 9.30, Tina Sharpe
11:42
asked what time it was and, realizing it
11:45
was getting late, went home to find
11:47
her mom lying on the couch in her bathroom
11:49
watching TV. The younger
11:51
boys, Ricky and Greg, were already in their
11:53
room while they were having a—where they
11:55
were having a sleepover with their friend and neighbor,
11:57
12-year-old Justin Smart. Sheila asked her
11:59
mom, so she could spend the night with a C balls
12:01
and she said yes. So. Many sleep
12:03
overs. I. Would make that's right
12:06
Saturday night. Rally. Junior High High School.
12:08
As a are you made more sleep overs on
12:10
Saturday nights? are you know? had them. At
12:12
other people's houses. probably more than I was home on
12:14
Saturday next. Round ten Pm.
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A local man listen and source is only as timothy. Odd
12:20
do have were by his name either optimism
12:22
or left the backdoor bar and Teddy and
12:24
on his way home saw dark coloured boxy
12:27
then. To. Be that Green Bay. Park.
12:29
Cross the bridge by ponder the cabins. Like
12:32
to see bolts he didn't recognize it. Not
12:34
only was this mysterious green van observed in tell you
12:36
that that a small brown car perhaps the dots it.
12:39
Was. Also partner cabin number twenty eight. Like.
12:41
The van numerous witnesses also didn't recognize this
12:43
people. Make in the second mysterious
12:46
vehicle more noticeable was it had a tire the
12:48
like a was on flat. In.
12:50
Our enough about mystery vehicles Almost enough.
12:52
They didn't come up one more time.
12:55
ah but still fuck mystery vehicles but
12:57
the man that see as dotson entire
12:59
me family Donna Williams timothy much shit
13:01
had most of all other further vehicles.
13:04
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13:06
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13:08
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I'm back. It's late at night, Saturday,
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April 11th, 1981, night of the
17:20
Keddie cabin murders at
17:23
the Seabolt's in cabin 27. Sheila
17:26
Sharp goes to sleep around 11
17:28
p.m. Her sister had gone back
17:30
home, just her having a sleepover. Right
17:32
around that same time, a man named Donald Davies,
17:35
also don't care about his name, but drives
17:37
by cabin 28 notices that the front porch
17:39
light was not on, which was unusual because
17:41
Sue typically always kept her front porch light
17:44
on at night when her son Johnny was
17:46
still out and about what she was. Closer
17:49
to midnight. Two people who left
17:51
a little back door bar at the Keddie
17:53
resort Noticed a stranger's car coming
17:55
across the narrow Keddie bridge into the cabin area.
17:57
a resident of the area Carl Sprang, We
18:00
did a small light colored car past slowly
18:02
by number Twenty eight. Around. The same
18:04
time and now we're truly done with the mystery vehicles.
18:07
And at the back door bar that night.
18:10
Loon smart just as mother. Would.
18:12
Later say as she heard a
18:14
overheard something that very strange. To
18:17
the two men were talking and one of them
18:19
said yo both was go. The.
18:21
Other man replied just a minute or so,
18:23
mad. With. Were feel like to kill
18:25
somebody? She. Never said who these
18:28
men were. Which. Is really fucking weird
18:30
because she clearly I just heard
18:32
her husband Marty Smart was also
18:34
at this bar. tiny little bar
18:36
or instead of spaghetti resorts and
18:39
his friend John Bead or bogeyed
18:41
scuse me school by Bow who
18:43
was staying at their place like
18:45
her place that night. Mary.
18:47
Will later say when questioned separately that
18:49
he or Marty season of later say
18:51
were questioned separately. The He Bo first
18:54
met a few weeks earlier at the
18:56
Veterans Administration or hospital with were both
18:58
receiving treatment for Ptsd. Post. Traumatic
19:00
Stress Disorder. Sovereign. Real. Smart
19:03
lame to suffer from Ptsd. It's as a of
19:05
his times us been fought in Vietnam. And
19:08
he said earlier the even of April eleventh
19:10
he his wife loon, and bow all decided
19:12
to go to the back door bar for
19:14
few drinks. He. Did not say
19:16
that she was leaving him which will come up later.
19:19
Marty. Smart also said he worked as a
19:21
chef at the back door book bar. ah
19:23
but was a night off. However,
19:25
he may have gotten fired that night or maven
19:27
fire just before That night is also come up
19:29
with. Like. Conflicting reports or he said.
19:32
On the way to the bar that night the group
19:34
stopped in. en su sharp. As her she
19:36
wanted to join them for drinks. she said no. And
19:38
a lot for the bar. At the bar,
19:40
Marty was in a foul mood and complaint angrily
19:42
to the manager about the music they play. He.
19:45
In Bow. or perhaps he and both loon
19:47
left shortly afterwards. Stories don't light up. maybe
19:49
all three. That maybe none of them to
19:51
be to them. One of them. I'll back
19:53
to Smart Cabin. Where. Loon would say she
19:55
watched some Tv they went to bed. marty
19:58
apparently still angry about the music say
20:00
at one point he called the manager from
20:02
home and complained again and that maybe he
20:04
and Bo went back to the bar for
20:06
some more drinks or maybe he stayed home
20:08
or maybe they killed their neighbors. So
20:11
many conflicting stories. Moving
20:13
away from the smarts now at around 1 30 a.m. fellow
20:16
Keddie resort residence resident Michael
20:18
Plier was awakened by his
20:20
girlfriend Barbara Meyer in
20:23
their cabin which was then just 10 feet
20:25
of the sharp cabin according to several sources.
20:28
Uh listen she whispered he
20:31
did and they both thought they heard muffled
20:33
screaming. It was hard to tell where it was
20:35
coming from after a while it stopped and Michael and Barbara went
20:37
back to sleep and now
20:39
we're on to the following morning the morning
20:41
after the murders. Around
20:43
7 a.m. April 12th 12 year
20:46
old Sheila Sharp awakes awakens
20:48
at the Seabolt's cabin you
20:51
know she's done with her sleepover she returns
20:53
home to her cabin cabin 28 and
20:55
what she would see when she walked in would haunt her for the
20:58
rest of her life. Lying on the
21:00
couch in the living room was her mother Sue who
21:03
had been bludgeoned with a claw hammer her
21:05
bloody body bloody body was
21:08
partially covered by a yellow blanket she was
21:10
still wearing her bathrobe her underwear had been
21:12
removed stuffed into her mouth also
21:15
in her mouth with some balled up medical tape and
21:17
she'd been gagged with the blue bandana as well an
21:20
electrical extension cord was wrapped around her legs
21:22
and ankles and lying on the
21:24
living room floor were the dead bodies of Sheila's
21:26
brother Johnny and his friend Dana they
21:28
too had been murdered and they'd been
21:30
bound with medical tape and electrical cords. The
21:33
whole place looked like a slaughter pen there was blood on
21:35
the walls and blood on the floor. Imagine
21:37
seeing all of that as a 12 year old it
21:40
seemed impossible Sheila had been
21:42
sleeping in the cabin next door less than 20
21:44
feet away and claimed she hadn't heard a thing
21:47
somehow neither had anyone else in the sea
21:49
bolt home in shock she
21:52
ran next door told the sea bolts what she'd seen
21:55
the deputy Hank Clement was the first
21:57
to arrive in the scene and he reported that
21:59
there was blood everywhere. on the walls, the
22:01
bottoms of the victim's shoes, Sue's bare feet,
22:03
the bedding in the girl's bedroom where 12-year-old
22:05
Tina slept, the furniture, the ceiling, the doors
22:07
on the back steps. Speaking
22:10
of Tina Sharp, she was missing.
22:13
The younger boys were not. Shockingly,
22:17
both younger Sharp boys, Ricky and Greg, and
22:19
their friend and neighbor, Justin Smart, were unharmed
22:22
and still asleep in
22:24
a back bedroom in the cabin
22:26
where the murders occurred. They'd apparently slept
22:28
through the murders, which makes no sense
22:30
at all. Lot of
22:32
hard sleepers in this short suck, like
22:35
a preposterous amount. I didn't
22:37
know the Time Suck character, Sleepy Greg, and so many
22:39
family members living in Keddie, California. In
22:42
addition to being bludgeoned with the claw hammer, Ricky
22:44
and Greg's mom, Sue, had been stabbed in the
22:46
chest and slashed across the throat. The
22:48
stab wound passed through her larynx and nicked
22:50
her spine. I say slashed, it
22:52
seemed more like a horizontal slab from what we
22:55
were able to tell. Again, just
22:57
like stabbed across her throat, kind of diagonally
22:59
into her throat, I guess. Also
23:02
on the side of her head was an imprint matching
23:04
the butt of a Daisy 880 Powerline BB pellet rifle.
23:07
How had she been beaten like that? Quietly.
23:11
Her son Johnny's throat had been slashed, and Johnny's
23:13
friend Dana had multiple head injuries from being beaten
23:15
with the claw hammer and he had been strangled
23:17
to death. Making all this
23:19
so much stranger, when you think of how many people
23:21
slept through this shit, it appeared that whoever had done
23:23
this had somewhat taken their time. The
23:26
house's telephone had been taken off the hook, the
23:28
cord cut from the outlets, the drapes had all
23:30
been closed. So what the hell happened? I mean,
23:32
the house was unlocked, so anyone could have just
23:35
walked in. Tina was,
23:37
of course, believed to have been abducted. The FBI
23:39
would oversee the investigation into where she'd been taken.
23:41
Local police initially thought the murders were connected to
23:44
drugs. Sue was a single
23:46
mom struggling to raise five kids. Did
23:48
she maybe venture into dealing out of desperation?
23:51
Or were Johnny and Dana selling drugs? That
23:53
could account for all the trips back and forth to Quincy, where
23:56
their mom and sister dragged into this mess. Deputy
23:59
coroner Douglas McAdie. Callister did not believe illegal
24:01
drugs were involved, nor did he think burglary
24:03
was a factor. But
24:05
if not drugs, if not burglary, why
24:08
were they killed? Why
24:10
the savagery of the killings? How
24:12
had the killers not been detected? Why
24:14
hadn't anyone seen anything? How
24:17
had several nearby people slept through
24:19
this entire massacre? Adding
24:21
to the mystery, when Plumas County Sheriff Sylvester
24:24
Doug Thomas, who not that long
24:26
before had lived in the exact same cabin the
24:28
murders occurred in, called the
24:30
Sacramento Department of Justice, which then sent in
24:32
two special agents from their organized crime unit,
24:36
not from homicide. Along
24:38
with special agents, Krim and Bradley, Spiro
24:40
Vasos, a fingerprint expert, and Bruce Palmer,
24:43
an evidence expert, also arrived from the
24:45
Department of Justice. And
24:47
although a lot of potential evidence was collected and catalogued,
24:50
none of it would lead anywhere. Suspicious.
24:54
These agents were soon joined by two FBI
24:56
agents, Dick Donner and Larry Ott, like
24:59
there's an agent, Dick, in this one, who were handling
25:01
the search for Tina Sharp. They had a couple
25:03
theories. The first was
25:05
that Sue, Johnny, and Dana all knew their
25:07
attackers, and possibly they thought or
25:09
had been told that it was a robbery, and
25:12
that they just stayed quiet and didn't fight being tied
25:14
up, they wouldn't get hurt. And
25:16
then once bound and gagged, they'd been executed.
25:20
Another theory was that Johnny and Dana had
25:22
walked in, seen Sue being attacked
25:24
by some unknown assailant, and were
25:26
then overpowered and killed themselves. But wouldn't that be
25:28
very noisy? At least noisy enough
25:31
to wake up Johnny's little brothers, who were just a
25:33
few feet away, same floor, nearby
25:35
room. And these cabins
25:37
didn't look like they were that well built. I'm
25:39
guessing the walls were not real soundproof.
25:43
The Plumas County Sheriff's Office sent out scent dog teams
25:45
to assist the FBI in looking for Tina Sharp,
25:47
but nothing would turn up. This
25:50
led investigators to deduce that Tina had been driven away
25:52
from the scene of the crime, rather than
25:54
dragged from the cabin down the street where
25:56
her scent would still be apparent. Cue
25:59
intense focus. on those mystery mobiles.
26:02
By the second week after the murders, the
26:04
Feather River Bulletin ran the ominous headline, Tina
26:07
Sharp feared dead. Despite
26:09
the use of Jeeps, scent dogs, and
26:11
an intensive grid search of the area, not
26:13
one trace of Tina was found. Not
26:15
one trace would be found for several years. The
26:18
FBI, who had been prepared to deal with the ransom, soon
26:20
felt there was nothing more they could do. The
26:23
trail had gone cold. Back
26:25
to the murders now. Let's talk about
26:27
12-year-old Justin Smart, Loon Sen, Marty
26:30
Stepson. The boy from two
26:32
cabins over, who had been sleeping in the
26:35
murder cabin that night, told
26:37
authorities he'd had a very
26:39
odd, very specific dream. And
26:42
he had that dream the night of the murders. Check
26:45
this out. I
26:49
am on a passenger boat. Somebody
26:52
got thrown out and there was a fight. He
26:55
had long black hair and his hair
26:57
was combed back. He
26:59
had black glasses with a gold frame
27:02
and dark lenses. He
27:04
had a mustache, jean jacket,
27:07
blue jeans, and wore cowboy boots. He
27:09
had a hammer in his left hand and it had
27:12
a wooden handle. Johnny
27:14
and Dana fought the man. Dana
27:16
was almost drunk. Johnny
27:19
was thrown overboard and then Dana. The
27:22
man ran away. The body was
27:24
lying on the bow. Sue, she
27:26
had black hair and a sheet over her. I
27:29
looked under the sheet and she was slit
27:31
in the chest. Everybody
27:33
gathered around her and wanted to
27:35
go to shore. I
27:38
was down by Sue trying to take care of her. All
27:40
the blood was coming down and I was trying to
27:42
patch her up with a blue and
27:44
white flower rag. I
27:46
threw the rag in the water. That's
27:50
a pretty strange dream. A lot
27:53
of details corresponding to the murder
27:55
that happened a few feet from this kid. Later
27:58
Justin did tell a polygraph. operator,
28:00
not surprisingly, that maybe
28:03
he didn't have a dream. Maybe he actually had
28:05
witnessed the murders. But then
28:07
that testimony differed from his dream description.
28:09
Justin said now that he had heard
28:11
a noise and woken up, which would make sense.
28:14
He said he then went to the bedroom doorway, peeked out into the
28:16
living room. Sue was lying on the
28:18
sofa. Two adult males were standing in the
28:20
middle of the room. One did
28:23
have black hair come back, dark glasses.
28:25
The other one had brown hair, were
28:27
blue jeans and army type boots. Justin
28:30
said that Johnny and Dana then came into the
28:32
front door. And those descriptions, by the way,
28:34
that he just gave will match
28:36
up with Marty and Beau. Johnny
28:40
began arguing with the two men. He said a fight broke
28:42
out. Dana tried to get away, fled to the kitchen,
28:45
but the brown haired man struck him with a
28:47
hammer and Dana fell to the floor. Then
28:49
the two men tied up Johnny and Dana. Justin
28:52
went on to say that young Tina came out of her
28:54
room, dragging a blanket and asking, what's going on? The
28:57
two men then rushed forward, grabbed Tina by the arm, dragged
28:59
her out the back door. Justin claimed
29:01
that Tina was crying out for help. And
29:04
again, how did no one hear that? How
29:06
did that not wake up her two brothers who were sleeping in the same
29:08
room as Justin? Justin told
29:10
a polygraph to the operator that the black haired man was
29:13
the one who cut Sue in the middle of her chest
29:15
with a pocket knife. And investigators
29:17
had found a pocket knife in
29:20
the living room, right, at the crime scene where the
29:22
murders happened, one with the bent blade. That blade
29:24
might have been bent if it struck bone, like
29:26
Justin was saying, and Sue was stabbed in the
29:28
chest with a knife. Based on
29:30
Justin's descriptions of the possible murders, composite
29:32
sketches of the two unknown men were
29:34
produced by Harlan Embree. This is one of
29:37
the weirdest details of the story. Harlan
29:40
was a man from Reno described
29:42
in numerous sources as having, quote, no
29:45
artistic ability and
29:48
no training in forensic sketching. Who
29:50
called this asshole? I've seen his work.
29:53
Yeah, he does not have any artistic ability. I could
29:55
have sketched out a better description than he did. It
29:58
looks so bad, it looks like it's a joke. He
30:00
might as well have drawn some stick figures. Are
30:03
these the men you saw? What
30:06
those are stick figures? And then cue him
30:08
just adding single line smiles, little dots for
30:10
eyes. He draws three strands of hair
30:12
on one stick figure's head, puts a little top hat on
30:14
the other. How about now? Plumas
30:18
County Sheriff Doug Thomas, the guy who used to
30:20
live at the side of the murders he hired,
30:22
Harlan. Sheriff Thomas was
30:24
botching this investigation. It
30:27
has never been explained why with access to
30:29
the Justice Department and Federal Bureau of Investigations
30:31
top forensic artist, Sheriff Thomas would choose to
30:33
use an amateur, a merino,
30:35
who sometimes would volunteer to kind
30:37
of help local police. Years
30:40
later, in 2016, Plumas
30:42
County Special Investigator Mike Gamborg will
30:45
admit that the investigation was a complete shit
30:47
show. He would say, you could take
30:49
someone just coming out of the academy and they'd have done
30:51
a better job. Then
30:53
another interesting piece of evidence coming out
30:55
from another smart, Justin's mother, Marilyn, AKA,
30:57
Lune. Lune told authorities
31:00
now that her husband and Justin's stepdad, Marty
31:02
Smart, hated Johnny Sharp
31:04
with a passion. Lune
31:06
also claimed that Marty had burned some
31:08
item, she said, in their fireplace.
31:11
Not a piece of firewood, I'm guessing. Early
31:13
in the morning of April 12th, so just hours, you
31:15
know, within a few hours of the murders that happened
31:18
just a few feet from his place. Authorities
31:21
would also talk to Marty Smart. Confusingly,
31:23
Marty told them that some tools were stolen from
31:25
him a few weeks before, though he did not
31:27
report that at the time. Tools
31:29
like, I don't know, a claw hammer. Almost
31:32
as if he's now trying to distance himself from one of the
31:34
weapons, definitely using the murders. While
31:36
talking to police about this, Marty actually said that whoever
31:38
took his hammer, they would have been wiser
31:41
to take a hatchet. This
31:43
was especially suspicious because police had not told
31:46
anyone outside of, you know, no one outside
31:48
of investigators knew that anybody had
31:50
been beaten with a hammer. So what
31:52
the fuck? Officers, you looking
31:54
for the guy who used the hammer to
31:56
kill my neighbors, right? Yeah.
31:58
I just want to mention... Now that whatever
32:01
hammer whatever hammer was used to bash them
32:03
with you know that kind of hammer That
32:06
was the one that was stole from me a few weeks ago. Oh
32:08
one more thing. I wouldn't use the hammer I
32:10
would have taken an axe to him a Creepy
32:12
Marty's new friend bow also interviewed by police Bow
32:15
initially told investigators that he and Martin had been at the back
32:17
door bar from 930 to 10 p.m That night
32:20
they change his story that they weren't there from 930 to
32:22
10 said they were there around midnight Why
32:25
do that? Trying to make sure the cops you
32:27
know thought he was at the bar when the murders happened Also
32:30
Marty's buddy bow aka John bubied
32:33
Allegedly had strong ties to organized crime in Chicago
32:36
But for some reason police still felt there was
32:38
not enough evidence to tie Martin and or bow
32:41
to the crimes months now
32:43
passed with no answers After the
32:46
Slain's remaining sharp children Sheila Greg and
32:48
Rick are all sent out of state to live with an
32:50
aunt But because the aunt already had
32:52
several kids the sharp kids were eventually placed
32:54
in foster care first together and
32:56
sadly later apart No
32:58
idea why their dad James did not step
33:01
in to take them probably was
33:03
a piece of shit Sheila waited
33:05
and prayed for Tina to be found and reunited with her
33:07
siblings a dream. She would hold on to for three years
33:10
But then April 11th 1994 three years
33:12
to the day after the kettie cabin murders
33:14
50 miles from Katie in
33:17
the small rural Unincorporated community of feather
33:19
Falls in Butte County, California. A
33:21
man discovers a human skull Near
33:24
the remains detectives also would find a child's
33:26
blanket blue nylon jacket pair of jeans with
33:28
a missing back pocket in
33:30
an empty medical tape dispenser Medical
33:33
tape just like the tape found on the body of her
33:35
brother and mother Initially
33:37
investigators had no idea whose remains these were
33:39
but then Butte County Sheriff's Department received an
33:41
anonymous call the caller said Hello,
33:44
I was watching the news and they were talking about the skull. They
33:46
found at the feather Falls and
33:48
they asked for any help. Uh-huh I
33:51
was wondering if they thought of the murder up in
33:54
kettie up in Blumis County a couple years ago We're
33:56
a 12 year old girl never found Surely
33:59
after that tips remains would be identified as being
34:01
Tina's. This seemed significant. Remarkably,
34:03
the tape of the anonymous tip regarding
34:05
Tina was found sealed in case files
34:07
untouched by the Plumas County Sheriff's Department
34:10
until 2013. When the
34:12
case was reopened, new investigators, Plumas
34:14
Sheriff, Greg Hadwood, and special investigator
34:16
Mike Gamburg were now looking into
34:18
things. Hadwood, in his third
34:20
year of office, had many priorities to contend with
34:22
inside his department and in the county. His department
34:25
was short of funding and he
34:27
was short staffed. Despite that, the unsolved
34:29
murders of a woman, two teenage boys, and a girl
34:31
still haunted him and he wanted to do something about
34:33
it. These were boys he
34:36
went to school with. Hadwood personally knew them
34:38
as a kid. He was also familiar with
34:40
cabin 28 in Kettie. In earlier years, before the Sharps
34:43
had ever moved in, he had spent nights
34:45
there with a friend and his family. Hadwood
34:47
would graduate from California State University Sacramento with
34:50
a degree in criminal justice. He'd
34:52
become a deputy in his hometown in 1988. As
34:55
a deputy, he knew what was and what
34:57
wasn't happening with the case. Although still technically
34:59
open, it was just not a priority. The
35:02
Kettie murders as the case became known had become
35:04
infamous as one of the state's leading unsolved crimes.
35:07
That and his personal connections led Hadwood to
35:09
resurrect the case to provide the resources and
35:12
time needed to solve it, even though he
35:14
was understaffed. That's when
35:16
Hadwood asked Gamburg, a private investigator,
35:18
if he would like to take over the
35:20
investigation. Gamburg also had known the
35:22
two boys. He was their coach in martial
35:24
arts and other activities. Dana
35:27
Wingate had been at Gamburg's house the day before
35:29
he was killed. Gamburg would take
35:31
on the task of diving through boxes and boxes of
35:34
evidence, and he found a couple of strange things. The
35:37
original case history log. Who
35:39
did what and on what date was
35:41
missing? Just gone. All the
35:43
physical evidence was incredibly disorganized and
35:46
a freezer that some evidence had been placed in
35:48
for preservation had gotten turned off. Some
35:50
items were never even entered into evidence to begin with.
35:53
A crucial part of the chain of procedures needed to
35:55
prove a suspect's guilt. Meanwhile, Sheriff
35:57
Thomas, the lead investigator on the Kettie murders,
36:00
He resigned from the investigation just three months in
36:02
to take a new job at the
36:04
Sacramento Department of Justice. His handling
36:06
of the case in retrospect would
36:08
be considered disastrous, at best,
36:11
extremely corrupt, at worst.
36:14
And that investigation was carried out with the assistance
36:16
of the Department of Justice that gave him that
36:18
new job. Some, like Sheila
36:20
Sharp, started wondering if there was a cover-up. In
36:23
his re-investigation, Mike Ganberg found out
36:25
that Marilyn Lune Smart, Marty's wife,
36:28
and Justin's mother, had left her
36:30
husband on the very day
36:32
of the murder discovery. The 12th.
36:34
Kind of a very important detail. She'd
36:37
apparently been having troubles with him for a while, and Sue, her
36:39
friend, had been advising her to leave him. Marty
36:41
was rumored to have been a womanizer, quite
36:43
the ladies' man, and he was supposedly sleeping
36:45
with several women in the area, including his
36:48
neighbor, murder victim, Sue Sharp.
36:51
Remember that Sue was found naked from the waist down, her underwear
36:53
stuffed in her mouth? As far
36:55
as I know, she was never tested for any evidence
36:57
of sexual assault. Why? Did
37:00
Marty and his buddy Beau rape Sue, kill her,
37:02
and her sons who witnessed what they had done,
37:04
then abduct her daughter when she came out of
37:06
her room, and also saw them possibly also raping
37:08
and then murdering her as well? Did
37:10
all that happen because Sue told Lune
37:13
that she should leave her piece of
37:15
shit philandering her husband while also sleeping
37:17
with said husband? Did
37:19
all that happen because Marty, drunk the night of the
37:21
killings, was told by his wife that Lune, you
37:24
know, told by his wife Lune, excuse me,
37:26
that she was done with him, told that Sue Sharp
37:28
had let Lune know that Marty was cheating on her,
37:30
told that by a woman he was sleeping with, and
37:33
then his mysterious buddy Beau, Vietnam vet, reportedly
37:35
connected to organized crime in Chicago, maybe went
37:37
along for the ride, all too happy to
37:39
crack some skulls. And now the
37:41
Department of Justice covers it all up because Beau
37:43
is maybe valuable to them. And
37:45
they give Sheriff Thomas a new job to pay him back for
37:47
helping them cover up murders in Kettie. Let's
37:50
say Marty did do it. He did seem
37:52
to have been a hothead. Lune's aunt,
37:54
Joan Andrews, will remember how Marty had a
37:56
disagreement with his dad once in Phoenix, and
37:59
decided to make a bond with him. and blow his
38:01
old man up because of it. He
38:03
actually went to the store, bought the supplies, needed to
38:05
make the bomb, but then calmed down and
38:07
changed his mind, I guess. Andrews
38:09
also said that while Marty and Loon were living
38:12
with her, she allegedly saw Marty practice throwing a
38:14
hatchet quite a bit, and he kept
38:16
the hatchet in his residence and also tried
38:18
to purchase numerous guns during that time. And
38:21
Andrews also said that Marty, the hot head
38:23
womanizer with PTSD, quote, spent
38:25
a considerable amount of time reading the Bible
38:28
and was fanatical about other people's morals. This
38:31
dude sounds fantastic, a
38:33
very stable, solid piece of work. Then
38:36
Loon would say that Marty tried
38:39
to run her and Justin over once, right, Marty
38:41
her husband, and then in 1980, the
38:43
year before the murders, he had put a knife to
38:45
her throat and threatened to kill her if she left
38:48
him, a knife. He
38:50
sounded guiltier by the second. Some sources
38:53
say that Marty also lost his job as a cook at
38:55
the back door bar either right before the murders or possibly
38:57
even the night of the murders. And perhaps
38:59
the combo of losing his job and feeling like he was about
39:01
to lose his wife, you leave him the next day, you know,
39:03
cause him to crack. Perhaps his wife
39:05
left him the day after the murders because she knew he did it.
39:08
What was burning in their fireplace that morning.
39:11
Now for the most damning evidence pointing to Marty, decades
39:14
after all of this in the original case
39:16
files was a letter. This is so bad. Loon
39:19
had provided Plume's County Sheriff's Department with
39:21
the handwritten letter sent to her,
39:24
sent, you know, handwritten, it's
39:26
signed, I'm sure had his fingerprints all over it. Semba,
39:28
her now estranged husband, Marty, who had
39:30
moved to Klamath Falls, Oregon, and in it at
39:33
one point he wrote, quote, I've
39:35
paid the price of your love. And now
39:37
that I've bought it with four people's lives,
39:40
you tell me we are through great.
39:42
What else do you want? That
39:45
letter was sent less than six months after the murders. How
39:47
the fuck was he not arrested? Some
39:49
would say that Marty was referring to
39:51
his wife and three children whom he had left
39:54
for Marilyn, you know, when she was still his
39:56
girlfriend. Bullshit. Somehow
39:59
that letter was not as a confession, nor
40:01
was it ever followed up on during the original
40:03
investigation. Cover up! That
40:05
is seeming more and more likely. In
40:08
a 2008 documentary about all this, Lune straight
40:10
up said she thought her husband and his friend
40:12
Beau were responsible for the murders. But
40:15
former Sheriff Doug Thomas still held the belief
40:17
that Marty did not commit the murders. As
40:20
proof of this, he pointed out that Marty had successfully
40:22
passed a polygraph test. But come on, we
40:24
know those aren't reliable. And
40:27
Marty and Sheriff Thomas reportedly were
40:29
close friends. Marty
40:31
also, according to some, had been dealing
40:33
weed and hashish in the area, not
40:35
Sue Sharp, as investigators led by Sheriff
40:37
Thomas originally speculated. Making
40:39
Marty look even guilty, in 2016, special
40:42
investigator Mike Gamberge met with a counselor
40:44
at the Reno Veterans Administration. An
40:47
anonymous counselor told him that in May of
40:49
1981, so just a month after the killings,
40:52
Marty Smart literally straight up
40:54
confessed to killing Sue and Tina
40:56
Sharp. He supposedly said, I killed
40:59
the woman and her daughter, but I didn't have anything to
41:01
do with the boys. But
41:03
then when the Department of Justice was alerted to this confession in 1981, they
41:06
completely dismissed it. As hearsay, didn't follow up.
41:10
Cover up! This is all so fishy. Many
41:12
have speculated the Department of Justice overlooked it
41:15
because of Marty's friend, Beau's connections to organized
41:17
crime. There's been rumors that Beau
41:19
was a highly valued snitch working with the Department
41:21
of Justice. And because of his possible value to
41:23
them, you know, him taking part in some murders
41:25
was overlooked. And then Marty also got
41:28
away with the murders because you couldn't arrest and charge
41:30
Marty and then not risk having him rat on Beau.
41:32
And what about the hammer that
41:34
Marty claimed was stolen from him? Gamberge
41:37
actually recovered it from a local pond in 2016.
41:40
His tip came by way of someone who attended a
41:42
wedding in the Keddie area. A woman lost
41:44
a ring. So the man returned with a
41:46
metal detector in an effort to recover it. What
41:48
he discovered was not the ring, but a hammer in
41:51
a dried up pond near the resort entrance. He
41:53
left the hammer, eventually contacted Gamberge. Gamberge
41:56
and the unnamed man went to the pond. By then it
41:58
was full of water, but the water was not But they did manage
42:00
to recover the hammer, and it matched the
42:02
physical description of the one Marty Smart said he had
42:04
lost. The one he almost
42:07
certainly tossed into the pond after using
42:09
it in the murders. The pond
42:11
is not far from the cabins. It would have been a natural
42:13
place to ditch a murder weapon. Someone leaving
42:15
the murder scene could have easily tossed in the murder
42:17
weapon, Gamburg thought. And yet there doesn't
42:19
appear to be any evidence that special agents or anyone
42:21
from the sheriff's office checked the pond. For
42:23
evidence, 1981. Why
42:25
not? To Gamburg, it
42:27
is crystal clear that the DOJ
42:30
and the Thomas Run Sheriff's Department did
42:32
in fact cover up the murders. Gamburg
42:35
alleges that Bowe and Marty fit into a
42:37
larger drug smuggling scheme that also involved the
42:40
federal government. He says that Marty
42:42
was in fact a known drug dealer. Bowe was
42:44
for sure connected to organized crime in Chicago with
42:46
financial interest in drug distribution. This
42:49
would explain why the Sacramento
42:51
DOJ sent two allegedly corrupt
42:53
organized crime special agents instead
42:56
of agents from the homicide department. Also
42:59
explains why Marty Smart and Bowe simply were able
43:01
to leave town right after the murders. John
43:05
Bowe, Bowe Bead, died in Chicago
43:07
in 1988 and it's hard to find out much
43:09
more about him. Marty Smart died in
43:11
2006. Neither man
43:13
ever returned to Keddie after leaving
43:15
within weeks of the murders. Will
43:18
we ever have closure on these killings? Maybe
43:21
not. But there's still a chance that more
43:23
important information will come to light after all these years. Keddie
43:26
police now say that new DNA evidence has
43:28
pointed investigators to other suspects who may have
43:30
had a hand in these murders and are
43:32
still alive. It's my
43:35
belief that there were more than two people who
43:37
were involved in the totality of the crime, the
43:39
disposal of the evidence, and the abduction of the
43:41
little girl, Pluma Sheriff Greg Hagwood
43:43
said. We're convinced that there
43:45
are a handful of people that fit those roles
43:48
who are still alive. So
43:50
was it a cover up? A conspiracy. Who
43:52
was ultimately responsible in the end? Some
43:55
people like Gary Wingate, Dana's father, don't think a
43:57
conspiracy is to blame for the events. just
44:00
too many agencies working on this and
44:02
collectively they just fouled up the investigation.
44:05
He said, nobody has the faintest idea who killed
44:08
my son. So I long ago had
44:10
to let this thing go or it would have
44:12
eaten me alive. I don't think about it. I
44:14
don't go to that ghost town. Gamburg,
44:17
however, is still hopeful that the true perpetrators of
44:19
the kitty cabin murders may come to light. Of
44:22
the living suspects, Gamburg has had this to say, they
44:25
better batten down
44:28
the hatches because we're coming. We're
44:30
continuing with the investigation and we're doing interviews
44:32
and we have several persons of interest. Whether
44:35
or not we ever get any closure on these crimes,
44:37
it's too late to repair the damage that's been done
44:40
to the community of kitty. The once-popular
44:42
resort community has never been able to
44:44
capture the relaxed, easygoing feeling it had
44:46
before the murders over 40 years ago.
44:49
People began to shun the kitty resort
44:51
soon after the killings. Within just a
44:53
year, it was completely empty.
44:56
The owners would put the property up for sale in 1974 for 1.8 million and
44:58
would not get
45:00
a single offer. Over the
45:03
next decade or so, it rotted into a
45:05
refuge for drifters and squatters. The
45:07
county ended up condemning a good portion if not the majority
45:09
of the buildings. In 2004,
45:11
the infamous Cabin 28 was finally
45:13
torn down. Now only
45:15
a depression and a few bits of boards and foundation
45:17
are left as testimonies that had ever existed. The
45:20
resort's owner, Gary Mollis, who did eventually buy the
45:22
place for pennies on the dollar, grew tired of
45:25
kids and ghost hunters breaking into it. Dubbed
45:27
the murder house, it
45:29
had gained quite the reputation for being haunted. Kids
45:32
would break into the condemned building with yellow
45:34
and white paint flaking off, its doors nailed
45:36
shut, most of its windows covered with plywood.
45:39
And then they'd flee off in a hurry,
45:41
reporting that they'd seen murky, shadowy forms, moving
45:43
chairs. Once someone said they
45:45
even saw a pitchfork and the word no carved
45:48
into the kitchen door. An hour later,
45:50
when they returned, the pitchfork was gone, so
45:52
was the carved word. And
45:54
a local 22-year-old, Forrest Jones, said he heard
45:56
moans, doors slamming, and footsteps when the house
45:59
was obviously deserted. This
46:01
cabin 28 now demolished. There isn't
46:03
even really a reason for ghost hunters or true crime
46:05
junkies to come by anymore. And if
46:07
people want to travel to and vacation in the
46:10
still just as beautiful as ever, Plumas County, Teddy
46:13
is far from the only little community in the area. But
46:16
it is the only one where the brutal
46:18
and strange murders, how did no one hear
46:20
anything that night before people
46:22
occurred, three of which were all members of the
46:24
same family? We may never
46:26
know for sure who killed Sue, Johnny,
46:29
Sheila Sharp, and Johnny's
46:31
friend Dana Wingate. Although
46:33
Marty Smart certainly has my vote, he
46:36
and John Boe, Boe bead, what
46:38
we do know for certain is that the unsolved
46:40
kettie cabin murders definitely killed
46:43
the now rundown and haunted
46:45
community of kettie, California.
46:49
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46:51
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