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Everybody's favorite good podcast. About

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Hey friends Elisa here in thank

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you for joining us for today's

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tale of marital misadventure. Would.

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You got Force Elisa! This one's one of

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my favorites. were pulling a terrific story out

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of are higher tier. Patriotic Volt.

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I did this bonus divorce

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in the summertime of last

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year. What's the story in

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Babe Ruth? Baseball Legend and

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the mysterious death. Of. His

0:47

wife Helen. Who. Wasn't living

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with babe. She was living with her

0:51

lover, not her husband. Poor Helen dies

0:53

in a fire and nineteen twenty nine.

0:55

It's. A mystery. It's very trashy.

0:57

It has some true crime. Really,

1:00

really twisty. this one in. Inman

1:02

does stop in two td

1:04

Hq to help in his.

1:07

Executive. Producing thing he is a

1:09

helper. this one's a little looser. Than

1:11

you normally hear on the main feed. But the

1:13

story has everything. I. Don't want to reveal too

1:15

much year. But I have so many questions I

1:18

think you're really really really gonna like it.

1:21

A leash. I think it's time to batter

1:23

up and go. Go Go. All

1:37

right Lisa is bonus. Divorce is

1:39

high end here on he all

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the patriarch on I love it

1:43

Hey everybody. Welcome. To.

1:45

My bonus: Divorce. For.

1:48

June. Which. Is changed about

1:50

nine times. I've got about nine other. Bonus divorces

1:52

but I gotta. Hot lunch on

1:54

something that a story I'd

1:56

never heard. Before It's got it. I

1:58

mean, A. Lot of. Story: The have a little.

2:00

Bit of knowledge yeah have one shock

2:03

to me hundred popped out of nowhere.

2:05

the On: oh by the time that

2:07

Babe Ruth may be killed his wife

2:09

Why? it takes me out of the

2:11

ball game. Wow. I I

2:13

don't know of others know. This is the

2:15

most amazing story that I've never heard. Maybe

2:18

I haven't heard this either. I am pulling.

2:20

This. Information. From

2:22

a number of sites, but I'm

2:25

mainly using read through simba.com. There's.

2:27

A Will. There's a lot of articles about

2:29

this have gone to the New York Times,

2:31

but I think this is a really good

2:34

job with something it up. Okay, okay so

2:36

welcome. To. The almost

2:38

not trashy Divorce. Of

2:40

Babe Ruth. And his

2:42

wife Helen. To see

2:44

the face. Was. A little bit. a

2:47

true crime in a very mysterious fire. Oh

2:49

wow, are you ready? Or yeah. Now I'm

2:51

wondering if maybe they should know named that

2:53

candy bar after the guy. Know a guy

2:55

that I've got a lot of questions. I've

2:57

got a lot of questions about this or

2:59

I bring us. bring us or to the

3:01

ballgame. Elisa of. Three. Months after,

3:04

Babe Ruth powered the Yankees to

3:06

the World Series sweep of the

3:08

Cardinals. They've. Experienced

3:10

assessing personal loss and.

3:13

Became. Invest in Scandal.

3:15

With. The death of his wife. This.

3:18

Happens: January Eleventh, Nineteen

3:20

Twenty mean. That. Babe

3:22

Ruth's wife Helen Ruth. Was.

3:25

Killed in a house fire

3:27

in Watertown, Massachusetts near Boston.

3:30

That seems tragic. Where they where, they solid.

3:33

Know Okay, hundred percent now.

3:35

Let me give you a little bit about Helen. Helen

3:37

Ruth was residing in a house

3:39

with a dentist. Whose. Name

3:42

was Edward Tinder. And.

3:44

Helen and Babe it had been

3:46

separated. But. No Divorced.

3:50

And. all the neighbors in watertown

3:52

new helen as mrs tinder

3:54

the dentist wise oh god

3:56

they didn't know that she

3:58

was babe ruth's wise Do

4:00

you want me to open the door? Sure. Inman

4:03

says he loves baseball and wants

4:05

to hear all about this trashy

4:07

summertime story. Come on in slugger.

4:10

Come on slugger. Here we go. Come

4:12

on. Yep. Come

4:14

on. Come help me E.P. Yep. Come

4:17

on. You demanded. I

4:20

bring the fire you guys. We acquiesced. Come on.

4:22

Well we're waiting for Inman to not delay the

4:24

story any longer. Don't forget Salon this weekend. Come

4:27

out and hang out with us on June 25th

4:29

at 3.30. Now

4:32

Inman is molesting Stacey's face

4:34

a little bit. Okay. Back

4:36

to the story. Thank you Inman for helping. You're

4:39

welcome. So the neighbors know Helen as

4:41

dentist-wise Mrs. Kinder. So this is

4:43

her new, this is not a

4:45

roommate situation. This is, she has

4:48

moved on. Okay. Oh, Helen

4:50

has moved on with Eddie. Helen

4:52

and Eddie. She's not only the neighbors though

4:54

that think Helen is Eddie's wife. Edward's

4:57

family thinks that Helen is Edward's

5:00

wife too. But

5:02

Helen and Eddie are not married. Okay.

5:05

That's the sub. Helen

5:08

not married to Eddie, still married to Babe

5:10

was alone in the house when the fire

5:12

started. And although authorities

5:14

determined the fire and Helen's death

5:16

were accidental.

5:20

This tragedy creates suspicion and

5:23

reveals stunning secrets about Babe

5:25

and his wife. Exactly.

5:29

So let's talk about Young Love and how

5:31

Babe and Helen get together. Okay. Babe makes

5:33

his major league debut. It's so weird for

5:35

me to say Babe because it's always Paley.

5:38

It's never Ruth. Babe Ruth, sorry. Babe

5:41

Ruth. Babe Paley makes

5:43

her major league baseball

5:45

debut. No. Another

5:47

Babe. There's more than one Babe, believe it

5:50

or not. So Babe Ruth makes

5:52

his major league debut as a pitcher

5:54

for the Red Sox in July 1914.

5:57

Oh wow. Okay. So

5:59

he's he's. mature in the film. Oh yeah, okay.

6:01

Old enough to know better than to kill

6:03

your wife after you've had a

6:06

meeting with your lawyers the few weeks.

6:08

It's shady. Okay, so Babe at this

6:10

time 1914,

6:12

he rents a room in Boston because

6:14

he's playing for the Red Sox, which is great,

6:17

and Babe will frequently take his meals at

6:20

a luncheonette around the corner. Two

6:22

dollar a week for the room.

6:24

Another two dollars a week for

6:27

the food. Blue plate specials,

6:29

right? So he goes in, this

6:31

luncheonette, those were the days, and

6:33

Helen Woodford, sweet Helen,

6:35

was a waitress there at the

6:37

luncheonette and she and Babe connect,

6:40

and this begins their love story.

6:43

Three months later on October

6:46

17th, 1914, Babe, now

6:49

being an experienced man of 19, and Helen

6:51

at the age of 16 were married by

6:56

Reverend Thomas S. Dolan in

6:58

St. Paul's Catholic Church in

7:01

Ellicott City, Maryland, near

7:03

where Babe had attended boarding school.

7:06

Babe and Helen, young newlyweds, get

7:08

an apartment in Boston's Back Bay

7:11

neighborhood. What, four dollars a week?

7:13

Probably, you can't afford Back Bay

7:15

right now. No. They

7:17

lived there until 1919. They

7:20

lived there for five years on the Back Bay,

7:22

presumably happy. And

7:25

then Babe, you know, making a little bit more than

7:27

two bucks a week, buys a 16 room

7:29

house in Sudbury, Massachusetts. This

7:32

is all according to the Boston Globe. Low, low price

7:34

of 18,000 dollars. Right.

7:38

So December 1919, the

7:41

Red Sox sell Babe's contract

7:43

to the Yankees. OK,

7:46

Babe and Helen will live in

7:48

an eight room hotel suite in

7:50

Manhattan during the baseball seasons, but

7:53

return to their Sudbury, Massachusetts

7:55

estate in the wintertime. Sure.

7:57

Fantastic. along

8:00

to September 1922, Babe and Helen

8:03

surprise the whole Yankee baseball team

8:06

when they bring a 15-month-old girl named Dorothy to the

8:08

Polo Grounds and introduce Dorothy as the daughter of

8:22

Helen and Babe. But

8:24

the Boston Globe reports that

8:27

not even his closest friend on the

8:29

team had suspected Ruth was a father.

8:33

A little curious. That is a little

8:35

weird. So they stole a baby. Dorothy

8:37

was raised to believe that Helen

8:39

was her biological mother, but

8:42

that is not true. Years later,

8:44

it was learned that Babe Ruth and Helen adopted Dorothy

8:46

in 1921. In

8:49

a book that she wrote, Dorothy revealed that

8:51

she discovered at age 59. In

8:55

1980, that her biological

8:57

mother was a lady named

8:59

Juanita Jennings, a woman

9:02

who had an affair with Babe Ruth in

9:04

1920. As

9:09

a young girl, little Dorothy

9:12

knows Juanita Jennings' aunt Nita.

9:14

She's a family friend. Wow,

9:16

that's awkward. Little

9:18

bit awkward. Okay, so we're caught up. We're

9:21

gonna kick you back out, dude. This

9:23

is not what we're doing today. You

9:25

can be on the table or outside. You pick. So

9:28

that's a little shady. So

9:31

Helen has a baby that isn't

9:33

hers. Aunt Nita's hanging around Babe

9:35

playing for the Yankees. Babe's girlfriend.

9:39

Okay. Okay. Shady. We think of

9:41

Babe Ruth as like this

9:43

big hero. Maybe.

9:46

I don't know. Hero of baseball. Legend

9:48

of baseball. He was apparently pretty trashy.

9:50

Just wait until 1923. In

9:54

1923, Babe is gonna meet Claire. Claire

9:58

Hodgson. Now, oh, Claire. Claire

10:00

Young Claire actually I should say is

10:02

a daughter of an attorney from Georgia

10:05

who did legal work for Ty Cobb and

10:08

Claire and her daughter Julia

10:11

moved to New York after

10:14

Claire's husband dies in 1921

10:16

and Claire will launch a career

10:18

as a model and a Broadway

10:21

chorus line performer. Okay. Babe

10:23

also becomes a frequent

10:25

visitor to Claire's Manhattan apartment. Interesting.

10:27

This is the New York Daily

10:30

News report. Probably just friends. Probably

10:33

friends. By August 25,

10:36

August 1925, Helen

10:38

and Dorothy, Helen, wife, babe's

10:40

real wife and Dorothy, daughter

10:43

of the greatest origins. Helen

10:45

and Dorothy go to live full time

10:47

at the house in Sudbury and babe

10:49

remains in New York year round. Claire.

10:52

Yes. Okay. By 1927, Helen

10:56

moves in to the Waterton house

10:58

of dentist Edward Kinder. Now

11:01

let me tell you about Edward and Helen

11:03

because Eddie and Helen are the real love

11:06

story here. They'd known each other since childhood

11:08

and their families lived in the same South

11:10

Boston neighborhood and Edward was

11:12

a World War I veteran, graduated

11:14

from Tufts Dental School in 1924

11:17

and established a practice in

11:19

Boston. It sounds like

11:21

maybe, right? Edward went to war,

11:24

Helen working at the luncheonette, meets

11:27

babe, maybe Eddie's never going to come back

11:29

for more. Maybe I should take my

11:31

chances because I'm 16 and I'm going

11:33

to be an old maid if I don't. I'm

11:36

not sure what Helen was thinking. Plus I'm sure a 19 year

11:39

old baseball player is athletic and

11:41

hot and exciting and all that.

11:43

Okay. You're the hero

11:45

of the Red Sox? Fantastic. Okay.

11:48

But it's really Helen and Eddie who

11:50

are the real big love story here.

11:52

So neighbors say Helen

11:54

was known to them as Mrs. Kinder and

11:56

she goes by Dorothy Kinder and

11:59

Eddie's brother, William. said that

12:01

Kinder Family was thoroughly under the

12:03

impression that Edward and Helen got

12:05

married in Montreal in 1927. Wow,

12:08

yeah. Boyfriend

12:10

in Canada. Well, boyfriend husband

12:13

in Canada. The following year, 1928,

12:15

the Watertown City Directory listed

12:18

Kinder Edward and Helen M.

12:20

Dentist. So on all

12:24

viewable surfaces, Edward and Helen are

12:26

married, living in Watertown. She's the

12:29

wife of a dentist. There's

12:31

some Babe Ruth erasure happening here.

12:34

So during this

12:36

separation from his wife, Babe

12:38

and his career is actually on fire.

12:41

He hits a record 60 home runs for the

12:43

Yankees in 1927 and bats a 625 against the Cardinals in the 1928

12:46

World Series. Those

12:53

are good stats. So drop and Helen

12:55

hasn't like diminished Babe's game at all,

12:57

apparently. Picking up Claire. Okay, so

12:59

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Friday night, January 11th, 1929,

16:46

Eddie has a

16:49

fun night planned at the boxing matches at

16:51

the Boston Garden. And

16:53

seven-year-old Dorothy is at Catholic

16:55

Boarding School in Wesley, Massachusetts.

16:58

So, Helen, all right, free night.

17:01

Eddie's down at the games. I'm

17:03

going to settle in into my Waterton

17:05

house. I'm going to take some sleeping

17:08

pills and turn on the radio

17:10

and fall asleep in

17:12

the second floor bedroom. Cool.

17:16

Got everybody out of the house having a

17:18

little Helen time, having a little me time. But

17:22

at 10 p.m., a passerby

17:24

sees smoke seeping from the

17:26

windows, and firefighters arrive, and

17:28

flames by this time, by the

17:30

time the firefighters get there, the

17:32

flames had reached the second story.

17:34

And Helen, sadly, is found dead

17:36

on the bedroom floor because

17:39

of the sleeping pills, according

17:41

to the first on scene. Sure. Helen

17:44

just didn't wake up by the smoke and

17:46

flames until it was too late. This is

17:49

what the New York Daily News reports. Helen's

17:52

body is taken to a hospital

17:54

and then to the undertakers. And

17:56

Edward is paged at Boston Garden.

18:00

Can you imagine Edward

18:02

Kinder comes to the phone, Edward Kinder,

18:04

right? Terrible. And

18:07

Edward here gets on the telephone. He's

18:09

told that a woman died in a

18:11

fire in his house. The detective finds

18:13

him. We got a dead

18:15

woman in your house, man. You know

18:17

who this is. And Edward tells medical

18:20

examiner George West, she's my wife. Her

18:22

name is Helen Kinder. George

18:24

West, the medical examiner, does an

18:27

autopsy. But his examination was

18:29

a little limited because,

18:31

duh, duh, duh, the

18:33

corpse had already been embalmed by

18:36

undertakers. Hmm. Yeah.

18:40

So in his report, in West's report

18:42

to the district attorney, his name is

18:44

Robert Bushnell, George West

18:46

determined that there was no indication of

18:48

violence and the condition of the body

18:51

was consistent with a theory of death

18:53

from suffocation in a fire. This is

18:55

what the Boston Globe reports. The

18:58

state fire inspector also files

19:01

his report. And the

19:03

fire inspector's like, yeah, this

19:05

fire was caused by overloaded electrical

19:07

wires and there were traces of

19:10

amateur repair work where the

19:12

wires had been fixed but not

19:14

soldered. We need

19:16

some tarrant towered around here. Yeah,

19:19

right. Because of the way the work was

19:21

done, this leaves a chance for a short

19:23

circuit and fire. So fire

19:26

examiner's like, hmm, shoddy electrical

19:28

work. The medical

19:31

examiner's like, hmm, I didn't see

19:33

any evidence of trauma like this story

19:35

sort of checks out. So

19:37

the district attorney, Robert Bushnell, concludes

19:40

that there's no evidence of

19:42

anything criminal here and

19:44

Helen's body is released to her

19:46

husband, Edward, for

19:48

burial. And based on

19:50

Edward's remarks, the medical

19:53

examiner prepares the death certificate

19:55

identifying the deceased as Helen

19:58

Kinder, wife of Edward. Edward

20:01

is going to spend the weekend in seclusion

20:03

at the home of his parents in South

20:05

Boston, and Edward, for

20:07

his wife Helen, arranges to have

20:09

her buried Sunday, January 13th in

20:13

the Kinder family plot

20:15

at St. Joseph's Cemetery

20:17

in West Roxbury, Massachusetts.

20:20

We come to a little part called mistaken

20:22

identity. So

20:25

in reading newspaper accounts of the fire,

20:28

Helen's relatives recognize

20:30

published pictures of

20:33

the victim Helen. And

20:35

they're like, hey, who's this

20:37

Edward Kinder dude? That's Helen

20:40

Ruth. Yeah, wife of baseball

20:42

superstar, babe. That's Helen's family. Helen's

20:44

married to Babe Ruth. So they,

20:46

Helen's family, gets on the

20:49

phone, calls the police, and

20:51

the police are like, whoa, what

20:53

the hell's going on around here?

20:55

So the police put a halt

20:57

to Helen's burial plans. This is

20:59

New York Daily News reports this.

21:02

So Babe Ruth gets a little contact

21:05

in New York, and

21:07

Babe Ruth arrives in Boston on

21:09

train January 13th, the day

21:11

Helen was supposed to be buried. Babe

21:14

will tell reporters, my wife and

21:16

I have not lived together for the last

21:18

three years. During that time, I have seldom

21:20

met her. I have done all

21:22

that I can do to comply with her

21:24

wishes. Her death is a great shock to

21:26

me. Okay. It

21:30

gets shady. Are you ready? This

21:32

story is just so tricky, y'all. The

21:35

next day, Monday, January 14th,

21:37

Edward Kinder, along with

21:39

his attorney, arrive at the

21:41

Watertown Police Station. And

21:44

he was questioned by a group

21:46

led by police chief John Millmore.

21:50

Edward tells the police that, yeah, you

21:52

found us out. Me and Helen weren't

21:54

married. And Edward then claims

21:56

he never tried to convey to anyone Helen

21:58

was his wife. When

22:00

asked about telling the medical examiner

22:02

the victim was Helen Kinder, Edward

22:04

denied making that statement and later

22:06

says he doesn't remember. The

22:09

police probably are like, dude, you

22:11

lost your affair.

22:14

You lost your mistress. You told your neighbors,

22:16

okay, we get it. Nobody

22:18

thinks Edward's explanations are fishy. Like, that

22:20

all makes sense. Like, no, we weren't

22:22

married, but what would the neighbors say?

22:25

So we just pretended to be married.

22:27

Because she's still like, she

22:29

can't marry him. It would be big amiss

22:31

if she did. So like, we're, but

22:33

babe's out of the picture. But this is true

22:35

love. They've been separated for three years. And did

22:37

I mention that I was in love with Helen

22:39

before I went to war? My wife and

22:42

all but name, yeah. Okay.

22:44

So the police are satisfied. However,

22:47

Helen's mom and

22:49

sisters and brothers are

22:51

demanding a more thorough investigation

22:54

because they are suspicious of

22:56

both, dah dah, Babe

22:59

Ruth and Edward Kinder, but

23:01

for different reasons. Do you feel like you're

23:03

on Dateline? A little bit. Okay. She

23:06

had a smile that lit up a room. For Helen. So,

23:11

motive for murder. So

23:13

Nora Woodford, Nora's Helen's

23:15

sister, and Nora goes to the police

23:17

and is like, listen, you guys. I

23:20

accompanied Helen to a meeting with

23:22

Babe Ruth on December 10th, 1928.

23:26

A mere 31 days

23:29

before the suspicious fire. We

23:31

went to that meeting, Helen and I

23:33

did. Nora says at Yankee headquarters. And

23:37

Nora says, Babe Ruth asked

23:39

Helen for a divorce so

23:41

Babe could marry Claire Hodgson.

23:44

Helen's like, cool, Babe. I'm

23:46

happy to do that. I would like $100,000.

23:50

And Babe is like, hell no. I'm

23:52

not giving you $100,000 and stormed out

23:54

of the room. Did

23:58

I mention a month later, Helen's baby? dead.

24:02

So meanwhile, on the

24:04

Edwards side, federal narcotics

24:06

agents are

24:09

looking into reports that Edward

24:12

supplied Helen with opium, according

24:15

to the New York Daily News.

24:18

Helen has a brother, his name is

24:20

Thomas Woodford, and Tommy is

24:22

a former Boston policeman. And

24:26

Tommy has been around

24:28

the precinct a few times, and

24:31

Tommy suggests that Helen was drugged

24:34

with opium, and the

24:36

house was deliberately set on fire.

24:39

Uh oh, what to do?

24:41

Yeah. All right, so the district

24:43

attorney, Robert Bushnell, is

24:45

like, crap, I guess I

24:48

better resolve this. So Bushnell

24:50

orders the second autopsy and

24:52

brings in an expert pathologist,

24:55

Constance Brennan. I'm

24:57

just kidding, not bones. His name

24:59

is George McGrath, and

25:01

a team from Harvard. From

25:03

Harvard. Harvard. Harvard. Okay. There's

25:07

a lot going on in this. Isn't this like just

25:09

incredible? Okay, so meanwhile, Babe

25:11

Ruth meets reporters in his suite at

25:13

the Hotel Brunswick in Boston. The Boston

25:16

Globe reports it this way. It's very

25:18

dramatic. With red rimmed

25:20

eyes and a quivering chin,

25:23

Babe Ruth spoke in trembling tones

25:25

about the grief he felt. According

25:28

to the Boston Globe, Babe, his

25:31

great chest rose and fell. He

25:33

gulped audibly and his eyes filled

25:35

as he dabbed at them with

25:37

his big hands. Yeah, sure. For

25:39

fully five minutes, he struggled for

25:41

control of his feelings and emotions.

25:44

Was Claire in the bathroom, dude? Come

25:47

on. All right, so

25:49

January 16th, I guess the Robert Bushnell

25:51

investigation lasts another day and a half.

25:53

He's not going real far. January

25:56

16th, The results of the

25:58

second autopsy from the Capitol. People and

26:00

Harvard and the Path. I'll adjust. Confirmed.

26:03

That helens Dad was by suffocation

26:05

from a fire and there were

26:07

no signs of. Foul play. Also.

26:11

The narcotics agents come up empty

26:13

and their search for opium at

26:16

Edwards Dental Office. And. They

26:18

can't find any evidence that Helen

26:20

was prescribed. Opiates, In

26:23

addition, this guy named Alice Dennis.

26:25

Ellison, Dennis. Is. The

26:28

State Electrical Examiner. And.

26:30

He confirms the fire started in

26:32

a partition on the first floor

26:34

near wall. Were sceptical. Alice

26:36

Dennis said the original wiring

26:39

in the house was excellent,

26:41

but additional wiring installed later

26:43

was of a faulty and

26:46

amorous sort. Placing: To

26:48

greet a load on the circuit wires

26:50

and receptacle. At this point a

26:53

stay at a. Week later. Bury.

26:55

It Barry Allen Bury the story were

26:57

done with this. It's too much. Will.

27:00

It seems like all the original findings had. Been

27:02

confirmed by additional investigation,

27:04

right? perhaps? So the

27:07

District Attorney declares the investigations

27:09

closed and releases helens poor

27:11

bodies. Been through nine autopsies

27:13

now. Back. To

27:15

Helen family. There. Is

27:18

a seven minute funeral

27:20

service seven minutes. Held.

27:23

At the home of Helens Mother,

27:25

this is January seventeenth. There.

27:28

Is a burial at Old

27:30

Calvary Catholics Cemetery in Dorchester,

27:33

Massachusetts and Bathers present. At.

27:35

The service and the burial. At.

27:38

He doesn't come to either. Which

27:41

would have been awkward. Agreed between

27:44

Husband and the communities are yeah.

27:46

Bay. Bring player. Ah

27:48

well on know that I'm gonna. I

27:51

mean he doesn't but it's bad. Babe

27:53

goes and really. Puts

27:56

on a show, The. new

27:58

york daily news were at

28:00

the cemetery, quote, tears streamed

28:02

down Babe's tanned cheeks as

28:05

he saw the body of his wife

28:07

lowered to its grave, unmindful

28:10

of the snow which fell

28:12

from a gray sky. The

28:14

Babe, hat clutched in his

28:17

huge hand, stood among his

28:19

wife's relatives sobbing. They're

28:22

real big on hand size in

28:25

this era. Don't tell Donald Trump. Okay.

28:29

After the funeral, Babe returns back to

28:32

New York City with his

28:34

daughter Dorothy three months later,

28:36

three months later, April 17th, 1929. Guess

28:40

who gets married? Is it Babe Ruth?

28:43

Oh, Ma'sl. Ma'sl, Ma'sl. Yeah. The

28:46

next day, the Yankees open

28:48

their season at home against the Red

28:50

Sox and at Babe's first at bat,

28:52

he hits a home run. The

28:55

New York Times reports. As he

28:57

rounded second base, he ducked his cap with

29:00

a great flourish in the direction

29:02

of a box behind third base where huddled

29:05

in fur sat his bride of two

29:07

days, the former Mrs.

29:09

Claire Hodgson. Babe

29:12

and Claire remain married until his

29:14

death in 1948. It

29:17

all sounds fishy to me. Is

29:20

that the extent of what we have? That's the

29:22

extent of the story. I just never heard that

29:24

Babe Ruth had been questioned. We

29:27

hear about Babe Ruth, the baseball legend.

29:29

Right. He was so awesome,

29:31

but maybe. Maybe he just

29:33

saved himself $100,000. Maybe

29:36

Edward was getting tired of Helen too. I

29:38

don't know. There's a mystery

29:40

there. Also, really

29:42

important lesson, don't do electrical work yourself

29:45

unless you're trained to do electrical work.

29:48

I cannot stress this enough. Especially in the 1920s.

29:52

Should you find yourself in possession of

29:54

a time machine? Be

29:57

very careful. and

30:00

the old wiring dates from sometimes that

30:02

period. But it is weird. The thing

30:05

that's weird to me is that the

30:07

original wiring of the home is rock

30:09

solid. So who... I have

30:12

so many more questions. Well, the description

30:14

was that it was at a partition

30:16

which makes me think that a large

30:18

home may have been divided into several

30:20

smaller apartments. Not sure.

30:23

I think it's a single family home. It's

30:26

very odd to me. I don't

30:28

know if I'd let this go. I see

30:30

why Helen's family, her mom, her brother, her

30:32

sister, were all very suspicious. I

30:35

can imagine that was frustrating. Oh, yeah. Like,

30:38

my sister just shouldn't end up in a fire dead

30:41

from... Mm-hmm.

30:44

Yeah. But because she's in

30:46

bomb, there's no way to do, like,

30:49

real toxicology. And I'm sure

30:51

toxicology back then was not, like,

30:54

super advanced, so... Well, better

30:56

than just not doing anything.

30:58

Agreed. Anyway, there's a

31:00

little true crime bend on

31:03

a pretty trashy story that I'd never heard

31:05

before. I wanted to share that with y'all.

31:07

Did y'all know that story? Well, and I'm

31:09

sure the Yankees organization put what pressure they

31:11

could to make that stop. Well,

31:14

and now Babe's married again, so we have a

31:17

cute new wife, and it's all fine, so

31:19

let's, you know... Go, go, go. Let's all

31:21

forget. Yeah, take me out to the ballgame.

31:23

Mm-hmm. Don't remember that first wife

31:25

who was living in sin with a drugged-up

31:27

dentist. Y'all! When

31:30

people say, like, it didn't used

31:32

to be trashy in the past,

31:35

psh, wrong. Wrong! So trashy. So

31:38

I hope I did not discourage you

31:40

about the legend of Babe Ruth who

31:42

was slung up in all this scandal

31:44

that just mysteriously went away after a

31:46

week, and nobody mentioned

31:49

Helen again. Except

31:51

for Dorothy, who finds out Helen isn't

31:53

her mom in 1980. What

31:57

a trash bag. What a story. All

31:59

right. Well, that's

32:02

a good bonus divorce there. It's

32:04

so different than what I had planned, but the more

32:07

I found out about this, I'm like, y'all,

32:10

you need to know this story. That's

32:12

a lot. Yeah. Whoa. Anyway.

32:16

Whoo, friends. Babe Ruth. Maybe

32:18

a murderer. Maybe a murderer. Maybe

32:21

a great baseball player. Why can't he be

32:23

both? There's shady things.

32:25

Like again, if I was

32:27

Helen's family, I would have so

32:29

many questions. For sure. Not

32:32

enough investigation has been done, but that's

32:34

why we're here to investigate.

32:38

Y'all, thank you for tuning in. Y'all are

32:40

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32:42

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32:50

have a great weekend. Summer

32:53

time, we're in cancer season now. Summer

32:56

time, summer equinox happening.

32:59

We're recording this a little

33:02

early. Summer equinox happened

33:04

yesterday. Friends, Wednesday, June 21st.

33:07

We are at summer equinox time. Tomorrow.

33:10

Correct, but this is coming out on Thursday.

33:12

So we're in a... Ah, wow. Okay, yeah.

33:15

We're in a time warp. Yes. Happy

33:17

solstice. Happy solstice. Not equinox.

33:21

Oh, sorry. Solstice. Happy

33:23

summer solstice or winter solstice for you.

33:26

That's it. Down under. I'm

33:28

so glad you always know what I

33:30

mean. Happy summer solstice, friends. We're

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