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there are people in england who
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will defend your right to walk on
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scenic and historic trails even
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if they cross practice dates for
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these and
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using it for 12 days, a year for grouse
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shooting from
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a mass to a weld
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sign foot pad will get you ready to hit
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the trails from cornwall to hadrian's
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wall, you
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can let your imagination run wild
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when you're outside sometimes a
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great be your guide when you followed
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their steps across britain peter
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, choose the works at charles dickens's
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wilkie to sue him a different
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side of england scotland england wales
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the book was way of learning more about these
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authors as well as the person that the
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person at make time for t as
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the afternoon winds down sandwiches
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hope we can be trusted
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clean another to pastries so
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finish
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run your boots for the our hair
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we're hiking the crossing travel
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with weeks
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we'll work on some calories hiking around
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england before settling in for pastries
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n t on today's travel with peter
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, was disappointed by the brexit
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vote so he decided to take another
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look at england and wales by exploring
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it through the eyes of a dozen great british
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authors peter explains how
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riders can be our tour guide in
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just a bit and will get schooled
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in the fine points of afternoon tea
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thyme inland inland at age
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seven seven three three three seven four
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to five or by email one
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since the public's right to access open
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spaces in england and wales was reestablished
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by a mass trespass up kinder
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scout in the peak district not
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far from far today
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the ramblers ethic expects walkers
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to follow a countryside code of good
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manners on any of britain's
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extensive marked trails and put joining
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us with tips for enjoying a good english
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hike or
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the guide lorraine dineen and deborah
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haber welcome and curious
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and give deborah you're from
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x more which is where's export
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exactly
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or x more is southwest of bristol
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in the south west of england it's north
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of dot more
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in north of cornwall then can i wasn't home
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okay
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and if you woke up on to the top of x
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more you can look north and you can
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see over the bristol channel and you can see courtesan
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wales
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and you probably get a lot of good hikes within
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know short distance of your yeah then
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absolutely yes i have yes on many
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of them criss cross over some of the major long
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distance
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how and lorraine you
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live in the cotswolds
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i live in the cotswolds yes my
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house
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about two hundred yards from the cotswolds
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way it goes right past our houses said
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probably hard for you not to enjoy hello
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yeah get a good chance good son
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has gotten i've gone to the controls for years
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and i'm always working on my guidebook and a
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few years ago i decided
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that running around looking protests in restaurants take
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three hours and into i walk out doesn't
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live in a don't get up early stage little later there's
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long nights in the summer
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and get out off the road you see a different
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cotswolds from off the road
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the only do and the footpath very
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easy to find as you probably found because
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particularly somewhere like the well which is quite
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a popular area
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there are always find posts that tell you where
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the public footpath so and those little
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yellow
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heroes will guide you across the fields
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i love the first that i love the mix
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of culture and history and walking and it's also
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easy and when you're old then you
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can hop in a bus or take a taxi back where you started
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you can indeed there are lots of public
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transport surround the cotswolds now
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which pick you up and drop you off and of course
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they're always pub says you need a taxi you can
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stop in a pub get yourself half a pint
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and and call a taxi codex
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a scepter have a pint or media by
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maybe upon devereaux
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young young dollar over the world and
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england this is something about england that celebrates
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walking what is it about england that
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is special for long distance walks
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in this
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cultural hiking
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i think over the long distance walks
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hum of which can take you take as
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long as you like that you can take a week to
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week but you can see such
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a variety of different lands
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the mean a short very
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short distance i think that's
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and there's the spirit of england
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that we can walk anywhere we have
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the right to walk in fact tell me but
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the mass trespass this is of a fascinating
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sort of thing about england taking heritage
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yes these were workers who
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trespassed on the truth it doesn't she has learned
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he was in using it for twelve days a year for
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grouse shooting
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he put up a fence and he said this is my
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private problems
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my private property as
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and the workers in the new industrial areas
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of manchester wanted access to
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that land that you could ever she wouldn't give
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it so they publicized
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a big whoop the great
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trespass the bus trespass nikita
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to justice because are trespassing on the
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dukes land and
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the police were out the game keepers were out
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but they got to the top
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shouldn't to the workers when the workers
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one and lorraine this exercise
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of the rights to walk you got to be respectful
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but you can't walk from a to be yeah
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the country the much trespass
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and the start of the nineteen thirties on kinda
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scouts was the formation of the
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ramblers association
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there we go because the ramblers is like
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a it's a huge club of people that want to
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take care yet rails end defend the rights
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to was absolutely
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i think there about a hundred and forty thousand
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miles
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of public footpath in england and wales
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they reckon there's about ten
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thousand miles of last foot
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paths that they're still trying
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to reinstate
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so the ramblers club is helping
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spirit that absolutely yes
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deborah haber in lives in the high marlins
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have x more in south west england west
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england dineen lives close to the cotswold
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way national trail they're getting us
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ready to enjoy a nice long rambo and
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english countryside right now one travel with
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rick steves you can find contact
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information
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where i guess each week on our website
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www ricksteves dot com slash radio
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one of the the top trails would you say
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lorraine in in england and
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the pennine way which is about two hundred
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and sixty miles i suppose it starts
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down and the peak district where the trees
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that was and it tricks north
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to the scottish border along the pennines
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which are the backbone of england okay
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so the biggest mountains and england vs
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on sort of yes the pin own way the
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pennine way another one this the
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hadrian's wall wart that's only about
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seventy miles a to knock that off in less
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than a week so two thousand years ago the
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the the romans they took over as far
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as a sense to the north of england before
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gotland and they decided to build a wall to seal
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off the empire say too much that wall
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survives i mean it's ruined by the to get a medic
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ancient site yet seventy miles long
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yes it's but some smart guys from coast to
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coast from newcastle in the east to
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the west coast and to be all alone
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with the wind and the sheep and
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that wall going across the craigie
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countryside it looks that the landscape is just
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ripped out of the geometry or to see can
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let your imagination run wild when you're out
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there sometime soon the he didn't
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hotel basically seattle
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is it that far as it yeah this romans idea
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you can walk on the wall if you want to you can
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touch the wall you can your with the wall
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the hallway basically i love that
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deborah what's another great walk we want to consider
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when we're thinking about britain and hiking
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well could i live in the southwest of england's
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i'm going save southwest coastal policy
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in that the when it goes round cornwall as it
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is yes i was exploring cornwall and i
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kept coming upon the what is it
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called this the south we're sort of us council tax
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and kids as well signposted variables and
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it is if you're like whole dark
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you know the dramatic sad and poldrack you
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are all alone with paul dark images
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yes it is such a beautiful
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beautiful coastline the whole way around
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and not just cornwall that the north somerset
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coast slight or the north devon coastline
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the cornish coastline the south devon coastline
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spectacularly beautiful coastline the
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north coast
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the of from a sat on the coastal path has
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the highest see cliffs in the country
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the more just tumbles straight
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down into the coast and to walk
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that path with the high seas
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listening than on one side you've got
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dear and sheep on the other
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roaming around wiles and
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then you come down with the sun setting
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in front of you want to the west
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his supply
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we're talking about taking in england were joined by
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to english guides who love hiking
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deborah haber and and moraine dineen
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or phone numbers eight seven seven three three three seven
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four to five you can email us at
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radio at rick steves dot com indeed
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is on the line from denver and colorado
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d thanks for your call
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for having me on i
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am excited about the possibility of hiking
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in england and i wasn't sure if the
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areas that you've mentioned are ones
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that are similar to other places
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where there's like a hutch system and
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he can hide some place to place and stay overnight
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pretty easily or accommodations
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can be found along the height
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you know the if you're thinking about those wonderful
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mountain refugees in the alps of answer
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linda and france england just
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doesn't have mountains like that england's mountains
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are like little hills and there's villages scattered
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everywhere so you don't really need those desolate
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mountain such
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what you do come across villages every so
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often and and so on let's hear from our
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guides lorraine what about accommodations
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when you're on a multi day hike
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the multi day hike
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there's a wide variety there are bed and
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breakfasts there are pubs that do rooms
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there are hotels and of course these days is air
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b m b rooms and and there are also
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companies that will take your luggage on
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to the next stop i love
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that it's because i like to have my
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gear but i don't like the carry it on the elite the here
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and we can look into those companies i hear nothing
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but good things about him and that great
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a dazzling convenience of they line up
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the be in bees the charming little guest houses
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have a beautiful hearty breakfast we are underway
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in bags waiting for the next by absolutely
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yeah that i'm strength or
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well known for those companies just
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google i'm you'll find latitudes, do
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you think's for your call? good luck on your long-distance hiking,
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england and
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plan in chapel hill, north carolina is emailed
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us and glenn rights i did a couple of
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long-distance walks a few years ago i did
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the warden's way in the cotswolds in
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cleveland way along the coast
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the climbed up mount snowdon and
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i did a day on hadrian's wall
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i'd like to do a long walk that would pass
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careful ruins interesting historic
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sites or find a cycle route
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relatively traffic free i'd rather
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not have to rent a car to get around to be
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got any suggestions
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though glynis them quite a bit of hiking and he
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wants a long walk featuring castle
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ruins and historic site
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why valley the why valley walk
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what you make and deborah oh yes
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it's beautiful and in the south of where
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the beautiful it's it's also sort
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of
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bordering between england and wales okay
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because it's a number of hikes along the english and welsh
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plan isn't there yeah and the border moved
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a lot so
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why man it because it's a border the
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had lots of castles go to defend
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the border so something
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the why valley walk is beautiful
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and you'll find lots of castles with these be wells
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castles to defend against the english or it
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english castles to keep the welsh indigenous
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people down both place
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because over the centuries as the border move
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it have the welsh building
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kidney english out and vice versa
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so and sometimes you've got the same castle
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and one generation it's invasion
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another generation it's welsh
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did he traveled ricksteves we've been
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dreaming about hiking in england and mixing
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and all that history and culture we've been
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joined by our guides and fellow hikers
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deborah hebron and fluorine dineen
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deborah and lorraine let's just finished with with
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a favorite moment you beachhead enjoying
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the countryside and the culture of england
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what a particularly magic
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moment that you've had that you can kind of paint a picture
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of fall when you romney's walks it's
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it's the people you meet when i did
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the why varney work i remember meeting
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and american girl as
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walking it on her own i was
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walking
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with my friend and we hooked up
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we spent three days together and
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we've been in touch with her ever since it's
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just magical meeting
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people on these walks you know i gotta say
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the english speakers are just so convivial
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and as does the etiquette almost of talking
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with each other and sharing information and and
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having a beer together in the pub yes and
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of an american end the beer and plenty of opportunities
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there deborah what some a magic inset
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you have for this wonderful dimension
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of england
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i think it is what i mentioned earlier
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actually it is walking westwood's
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and watching the sunset
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and the different light the light
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through the day
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you know this is a very important tip because the
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sunset might be nine o'clock
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it might be late in the day i literally the very high latitude
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and to walk into the sunset
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the shadows are beautiful the colors or warm
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the crowds are gone you and
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you're surrounded by
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england england nature
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labour and lauren think so much i felt like
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i was with you on those trails and there's a lifetime
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of hiking to behead and enjoyed
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british author accompany you are
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the ones he , us
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who inspired have to for the next
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time travel with sixty and
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later and source we invite you to join us for
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t type in london
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hello i'm joanna lumley i'm
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from london and it's absolutely fabulous
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to be here traveling with ritzy a
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tough tough my friends less direct
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well fitting and would be drawn to annex our eyes
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this ring and
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, from patsy i think i'm rick
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your son's have sex sex
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saudis to school
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britain is a land a free riders
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with the brits literary tradition and
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so much of that great rating is set
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on the road these writers are for
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a surprisingly vivid time tunnel experience
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to know the england of centuries past
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at , pier fans wanted to see themselves
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twenty first century been and comparing
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country in the culture memorialized
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that's great writers through the ages ages
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these literary great even recognize
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britain today peter explores
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the book that diaries and journal
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of important british authors from over the
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centuries as he headed out to survey
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england's green to pleasant land
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his book his called footnote called
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journey around britain a journey company
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a great writers and peter joined us
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now from the studios said the bbc
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in london peter thanks for joining us
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as an absolute pleasure you know you really
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can't know your country or or
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any country without actually traveling through
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it
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would you say england's literary greats recognize
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that and and traveled to make their
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writing more vivid and and
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more insightful certainly some them
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does i mean some them never moved to tools
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that summer like dickens was an obsessive
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travel and not just walking around london
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every night but also getting on trains whenever
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he couldn't gain all over the land
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save yes some were very consciously
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traveling to try and make more of their writing
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so tell us
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in your challenge when you set out to write
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footnotes
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how did you travel and what was your goal
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well my dear was i wanted to find
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a new web looking at britain because
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we've seen so many changes recent in
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my davis is i could get a selection
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of great writers some the not very well known
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some much better now all
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of whom have traveled at some point in
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britain and i want to steep
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for myself and then diaries my writing
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and everything it's about their
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trip and then i kind of step i spit like
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stepping out of a train or plane and in new
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land and i thought i thought it might help
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me see britain more clearly if i did that william
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you mentioned charles dickens i mean everybody
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wants to better understand victorian london
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and
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and what better way to do that
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than to read charles dickens accounts
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of
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definitely and his accounts of his train journeys
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so the idea behind my my
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book was that i would take twelve authors
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that was six men and six women all
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who'd made the eastern isn't the earliest
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was eleven eighty eight for the michael gerald
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of wales the latest was
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nineteen eighty three barrel bainbridge
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who smoke to way around england then
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i wanted to make all the journeys join up
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to be like a kind of baton in a relay race
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or snowballs sweating as it rolls that
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we would go from the first altered to the next would
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never would never leave them as well so
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be continuous loop around britain and
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you'd be jumping from century to century and
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in an interview with sign away yes
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and as it works in the and very well as
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with the one i started with was urban
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could enid blyton her dancing has by one
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and in the states but she was by far our
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biggest selling children's author from
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the nineteen twenties to the nineteen sixties
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absolutely enormous seats right seven
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hundred and fifty books very
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very influential on us now
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her idea of what britain is was
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very influential on his old case villages
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and friendly bobby's and
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like mistrust of strangers sellers nineteen
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fifties idea of england which still
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often permeates our view of ourselves
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okay but that was that's relatively recent
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what about this dimension the author from the
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twelfth century what kind of
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insights from the twelfth century a eight
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hundred years of could be helpful
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for understanding england today
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well it's he writes very specifically
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this is michael gerald of wales he was traveling
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around wales and eleven eighty eight trying to drum up
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support for the third crusade recruiting
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welsh arches oh yeah and he
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had some really precise nature writing
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and what's fascinating is the the
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lions he describes so
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different to the one we know it was the land was full
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of wolves and beavers which we don't have
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in britain anymore and that hasn't
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by strains views on beat as he believes say
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castrated themselves without being hunted
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how my cause he thought we were to syria that
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reason so his is slightly
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fantastical his journey that made it more
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even more exciting to follow him do that is
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eight hundred years ago net same
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as what he right resonates today and
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then yes dickens's the most
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remarkable they are that some of the authors
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tend that more the months because they made seventy jones
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said dickens then the book twice
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the seem that emerged was i
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was start with child and an end with deaths
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and the last journeys dickens's
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final journey in a coffin from his home
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in kent into the centre of london
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where he was buried in westminster abbey wow
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this is quite a puzzle you put together a you've
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got the map in your book that shows said
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the route and and the different authors that
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become like the tour guide that's
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right edit and the great thing about
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doing it this way as you can read their writings nuke
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look additive train window in
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the same way that they would have done and seen the same
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scenery passing by yes of course
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neither pylons and carson different
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things but it's still out there will what's an
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example of stuff peter about like you're
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writing on the train the train sitting right next
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to his charles dickens and he's looking over
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your shoulder and he's pointing his in look at that
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then he writes about it would something
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charles dickens from the what
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did mid eighteen hundreds would have instructed
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us you're riding the train across the english
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countryside because charles dickens
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have so much energy and such vivid
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imagination his description
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of a change areas like nothing else that
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use experience because half
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a see the change and he'll be dancing where they've on in
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the carriage and be striking up songs and put
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blank bets and he was absolute
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indefatigable salem the
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book was way of learning more about these authors
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as well as the person that that scene what
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about samuel peeps i mean he was the great
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famous direst to have contributed
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hugely to our understanding of society
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in london back but in the sixteen hundreds yes
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he didn't sad and have room for paid sick
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of eyes a nightmare trying to choose
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my twelve authors some of them were my
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favorite so i just put in and others
19:59
i knew
19:59
have pete and yet cause ended
20:02
up with that
20:03
the list is so long i mean i would have loved to have
20:05
included dad jane austen the nina
20:07
do a seventy extraordinary iconic
20:09
authors five just couldn't include this
20:12
is traveled ricksteves or guest is peter finds
20:15
his taking us on taking journey around britain in
20:17
the company of some of the greatest writers
20:19
it's all in his book footnotes peters
20:22
aims to explore today's britain by
20:24
seeing it through the lens from the past
20:26
is found in the words of britain's great
20:29
writers peters also written about
20:31
his travels in greece to search for
20:33
meaning from greek myths and legends
20:35
and to dissonance that book is called
20:37
thing of beauty post frequently
20:40
on twitter at p fines
20:42
and that's built f k e n
20:45
n e s you know one author
20:47
i'd love to walk with would be any
20:49
the great poets the romantic poet
20:51
william wordsworth i can just picture him with
20:54
his rucksack in his notebook hiking
20:56
across cumbrian the lake district yes
20:58
he was you get one for persons
21:00
what with coleridge to who is
21:02
an obsessive walker he would walk fit
21:05
for hours and days at a time tossing
21:07
out his poems it as he went spurts again
21:10
have no room for them out of they appear
21:12
in the book and little sort of bits and pieces
21:15
but not didn't get whole chapters themselves
21:17
a followed them johnson and boswell
21:20
if you know them around scotland
21:22
the summit first dictionary
21:24
in the eighteenth century it
21:27
was fascinating following them because he became upset
21:29
is ray irascible man he became
21:31
obsessed with have he trees that were in
21:33
scotland
21:34
that is true that is something that people talk about all
21:36
the time now and and nephews re wilding
21:39
ah efforts in scotland but
21:41
and if you type of the historical rider you're
21:44
dealing with a time when landlords
21:46
were english and the people were
21:48
scottish and some
21:50
of the landlords actually thought the people were more
21:52
trouble than having sheep's they would just tennis
21:54
swap out the people for the sheep and make
21:57
money off as com and i mean there's that whole political
21:59
over
21:59
really did that come through very much in
22:02
your studies it did if you look at the
22:04
land and precisely for that reason
22:06
you can see desert is villages in scotland
22:08
still in the middle avast states that
22:10
are still only given over to grass shooting
22:12
all deer hunting whatever though
22:15
this is still there the politics is still them
22:17
he found the wilds of sky particularly
22:20
enthralled i did our
22:22
some very moved by the wilds
22:24
of skies such sir well
22:27
, a wild wouldn't blame place
22:29
am with very few trees is samuel johnson
22:31
can't say not it's really
22:33
moving when you guys ams bridge over that
22:35
an avid he johnson was got there by
22:38
boat but even say that was say
22:40
that as i've gotten i was looking for genuine
22:42
wildness and you can find it
22:44
in sky as well as some very good whiskey
22:47
and wales has similar wilds in the north
22:49
the around snowden national park
22:51
the deer your literary characters
22:53
help you better appreciate snowden and
22:56
in the the natural wonders of north wales
22:58
yes on my great loop around britain
23:00
after gerald wales he handed me
23:02
of the anglo irish right has could
23:05
some a villain ross to women
23:07
and i went up snowden mountain itself
23:09
with them which that done in i think about
23:11
the enlightened a three or something
23:13
they will victorian edwardian ladies
23:15
who'd gone up in full skirts and hats and
23:18
dump smoked the top are
23:20
in those days was nothing at the top of the a
23:22
very small hotel was as
23:24
hadn't been called hotel because it was falling
23:27
down was nabbed as a railway to the toughest
23:29
node yes again you look at it through
23:31
their eyes and you see what
23:33
was then the most extraordinary
23:35
the empty place that is now
23:37
the they're accused of people climbing snowden
23:40
have a different experience different experience
23:43
peter alumnus notion of traveling around britain
23:45
kind of oblivious to the central you're bouncing all through
23:47
the centuries as as you do when your side see
23:49
around england and what you've done is assembled
23:52
a series of great minds
23:55
great lovers of culture and nature
23:57
and heritage who write about so beautifully
24:00
they're your guides and they're passing the baton
24:02
from one guide to the next who
24:04
is your favorite guide puts literary
24:06
am great
24:08
then if you know wilkie collins i got very bogs
24:10
down with him in a very good way
24:13
he was a contemporary of dickens slightly younger
24:15
than dickens take him under dickens's wing
24:18
and as a young man his father
24:20
wants to be a lawyer but
24:22
his father died and so he threw that up
24:24
images and became and writer and
24:26
he went right como
24:28
the for the was a railway and como
24:30
says called rambles beyond railways
24:32
he he wrote this but when he was very young man
24:35
and i got very stuck with him i read to the
24:37
first three chapters of spend with lily collins
24:39
because he's so into seen it describes
24:42
everything he sees
24:43
in such exquisite detail oldest
24:46
little cove some corners villages
24:48
am but what kind of detail peter because
24:50
when you see those coves i can almost imagine
24:53
the tilt shirts are running and in
24:55
this is when there's a one day opportunity to harvest
24:58
all these these big herring
25:00
and they blow the foreign and everybody runs
25:02
down drops at the dune invents and they gluttony
25:04
dragon buckets of cultures
25:07
i mean there's just these ways that we
25:09
can get into the past that we
25:11
don't have an opportunity to experience today
25:13
but we can learn about it and we can go to those places
25:16
would such an example of something
25:18
vivid from for example cornwall
25:20
with wilkie collins
25:22
the about that is very diverse he describes
25:24
as as you've just described the fish
25:26
coming in and the horns blaring a live as
25:28
entire village rushing to the front and
25:30
dry he'll these fish in a
25:32
working through the night with torchlight as is
25:35
beautiful descriptions of that the also
25:37
describes the is one finger to the pub by
25:39
this happened but he he went
25:41
the small in and he was part of the he
25:43
witnessed a smallpox party
25:45
were adopted come over down from london
25:47
much was a big deal in a state carrying
25:49
a small amount of smallpox matter
25:51
as he called it was use injecting
25:53
all debate is within all the women of the area
25:55
was turn up with a baby and have the baby inoculate
25:58
his which had a lot of
25:59
with them but weeping i'd say today
26:02
fascinating we're ,
26:04
around britain with utter peter fights
26:06
right now and travel with mixing mixing
26:09
followed the trail twelve great british
26:12
to bring today's britain into focus to
26:14
the ends of the past as these authors
26:16
provide his book is called footnotes
26:19
attorney well written in the company of great
26:21
of peters also the author
26:23
of hope and as and source
26:25
the ancient with some do force of britain
26:28
is minus title is a thing abuse
26:30
travels thing mythical and modern greece
26:33
which a reviewer for the guardian called a
26:35
sun drenched him to greece will
26:37
share a conversation about that in an upcoming
26:40
edition of travel with xd
26:42
what about bass bass is so famous
26:44
for it's decadence and that sort of high
26:47
society escape from london back and george
26:49
and days
26:50
the i bought his the and the other slightly
26:52
rush pass pass in bristol because there's
26:54
been so long com what i had keller move on that
26:56
i did drop into path briefly because
26:59
at that stage shows following a woman called
27:01
celia finds to roads
27:03
around britain ah britain sixteen
27:05
in sixteen sixteen
27:07
the on horseback accompanied by to
27:09
servants and that cessna was very rare and
27:12
strange thing for women to do in those days
27:14
and she kept her very detailed diarrheas
27:17
floating in the boss at past
27:19
led some he had this com the luminous
27:22
bathing suit
27:23
and she was slightly sneering about saw the local
27:26
women who weren't wearing quite enough
27:28
there's so many dimensions of english society
27:30
that you can get by traveling not only round geographically
27:33
but around through the centuries
27:35
there's this concept of the shifting
27:37
baseline syndrome can explain
27:39
to us with that is the as a sort of
27:41
conservationists turmeric came up
27:43
from reason when they were studying fish
27:46
numbers couple of decades
27:48
ago and trying to work out why
27:50
was that we didn't feel that the that fuel efficiency
27:53
of lead as lead was that sense in the air that
27:55
there is but i'm shifting baseline very
27:57
hard to six what six what
27:59
normality is which is why i was soon
28:02
seem to go around with these different writers and
28:04
see what they described so when wilkie
28:06
collins described the millions of pilchards
28:09
that almost throwing themselves onto the shore
28:11
and como a obviously we don't have
28:13
that not the pictures of garneau they
28:15
they've come back slightly since say
28:17
shifting based night as is what it means it's
28:19
it's very hard to know what normal is it's
28:22
true to its the challenge to see things
28:24
in the context of the time yes
28:26
and what are the normal numbers of wildflowers
28:29
to find in the matter is oh yeah a
28:31
given that we know the sandwich pesticide around
28:33
what what is normal we we've kind of forget
28:35
so quick because it's where humans we adapt so
28:38
rapidly to the new normal
28:40
it has traveled rick steves we're talking about peter
28:42
find in his book is footnotes and
28:45
journey round britain in the company
28:47
of great writer peter ,
28:49
really had a fence that that you enjoyed
28:51
your travels and that your focus on the literary
28:54
a great thing that dimension enhance
28:56
the travel experience in fact he wrote in the book that you had
28:58
a lot of fun you saw some incredible sights
29:00
and you drink in some amazing pumps
29:03
pumps wrap up our our discussion with a
29:05
chance for you to you , a pint
29:07
with with one of these writers who would you
29:10
have a pint with and what was that experience
29:12
be
29:13
it's a very hard one to choose who are
29:15
most items time as i think charles dickens
29:17
would have to fit into his fun and the great
29:19
thing is a cause london is dotted
29:21
with pubs were dickens drank
29:23
himself and wrote about vividly and many
29:26
of his characters appeared so always
29:28
oliver twist characters you can see the
29:30
pub snapped his anything gun train can them
29:32
and you can sit by roaring log foreign
29:34
imagine dickens as he disowned raise
29:36
a glass to him
29:38
such this when you were saying
29:40
that in the fire and raising a glass and
29:42
you know the edged glass on the windows
29:44
and in the well worn furniture
29:46
in the creaky old hardwood floors
29:49
and in the clientele today that
29:51
are you gotta do is swap out their wardrobe and
29:53
in their from the victorian times
29:56
there's some opportunities that we are there
29:58
there is one thing we've done well
29:59
this well the british i think it's the pub they're
30:02
still absolutely vibrant place is despite
30:04
the last two years and absolutely
30:07
this pubs which were drunk and not only
30:09
by dickens but though many others of the authors
30:11
in my in my book and you
30:13
can go raise a glass them all i would recommend
30:16
a cat on my next vacation i'd like
30:18
to go to a i've i've got a number of great
30:20
pubs i in london in small towns and
30:23
i'd like to read one book that would enhance my
30:25
travels in britain with this dimension
30:27
of going back into time with the help of the literary great
30:29
which when book would you recommend i
30:32
used to enhance my travels and
30:34
oh goodness what a difficult question other
30:36
than a year bomb footnotes
30:40
you told by samuel pizzas
30:42
dari which of course is three
30:44
hundred years old and more buddies
30:46
and so to this day you read
30:49
those little snippets what life was like
30:51
in london and as times and
30:53
he was an enthusiastic pub sister and
30:56
it really comes roaring back to life's
30:58
i would go for samuel pizzas diary there
31:00
you go peter find thanks so
31:02
much for joining us you got me all excited to go back
31:04
to england and do with a little more focus on
31:06
earth and a literary heritage and thanks
31:09
for writing footnotes a journey around
31:11
britain in the company of great writers
31:13
thanks again pier
31:14
thank you
31:19
after all that walking around britain wouldn't
31:21
you say it's time for a nice cuppa tea
31:24
london based tour guide brit months they'll
31:26
accompanies us into the traditions of
31:28
he time in english that's next time
31:30
travel with rick steves
31:33
after a busy day of hiking in the british
31:35
countryside or when you're seeing the sights
31:37
of london by three or four o'clock
31:40
he could probably use a little break the
31:42
british zip come up with an ideal way
31:44
to put an elegant pause in the day with
31:46
afternoon tea lonsdale
31:48
is a blue bad certified tour guide
31:51
in london caesar companion for
31:53
t right now and travel with rick steves
31:55
and the help us clueless americans know
31:58
americans little more about what to expect
31:59
and what's expected of us
32:02
bread thanks for joining us oh it's
32:04
a pleasure know brit you've spent years
32:07
taking americans around london as
32:09
london as guide i find people are very
32:11
interested in these teeth
32:13
what can we learn about teased understand
32:15
that part of english culture
32:18
afternoon tea for english people
32:20
is just such an automatic ritual
32:22
that so we never really think too much about
32:24
it we think that afternoon tea
32:26
really staff said one of the
32:28
people given credit for it is the touch
32:30
her santa maria
32:32
the with this has to have pets and spice
32:34
and he found the
32:35
between
32:36
and between didn't have a little too far
32:39
and says she got some sandwiches
32:41
taken impulsive peace after her
32:43
and it's thought that she was the person who
32:45
really started is awful the various other
32:48
claimants sir are there if
32:50
you read about it but it's just
32:52
a wonderful little ceremony and it's evolved
32:54
over the years and it's become something
32:56
that said you just tend to
32:58
enjoy to make peace process of yourself
33:01
over in it's nice to treat yourself to an
33:03
afternoon tea and it's so delicious
33:05
but i do warn you that it bypasses
33:08
the elementary canal and settles immediately
33:10
on
33:10
hit some success you can call
33:12
this victorian than could newest nineteenth century
33:15
yes i think i'm in t of course has been arranged
33:17
for for much longer than that's really
33:20
but sir it's salt but the real
33:22
afternoon tea as we know it today probably
33:24
evolved doing that
33:26
in and originally would be for people with a lot
33:28
of time on their hands as opposed to the working class
33:30
well i would imagine so although i think lots
33:33
of people did like to try and new node
33:35
say that they took tea sets and they but
33:37
nowadays i think everybody really into
33:39
is a good afternoon tea but it's still not that
33:42
people have a limited budget because if you go
33:44
for really posh often in t it somewhere
33:46
like the nine am head
33:47
the great it will a landmark
33:49
or portland the me
33:50
since you're going to have not much change
33:53
left from about forty pounds
33:54
have a lot of money last
33:56
time i was in london i learned that you can split
33:58
a t except as and
33:59
because you have to people want to order and sixty
34:02
dollar t split and
34:03
even i did it the world say
34:05
as him to number and we would teach very
34:07
nice it own allowed to do that and
34:10
if he were to go to somewhere like
34:12
the minute
34:13
red line him that would be frowned whole mm
34:16
well i'm not sure i think you could probably
34:18
get around it
34:19
you could probably order a cup of tea one person
34:21
in the and whole
34:22
i should imagine you could because it's
34:24
very very filling and you get know
34:25
the lot of food soviet so best
34:27
both up
34:28
that needed that so lovely
34:31
hybrid dot is a little confusion among
34:33
a traveler's between the terminology here but
34:35
cream t afternoon tea height
34:37
he would have the differences there
34:39
well if cream t and afternoon
34:41
tea tend to be a fairly similar sort
34:43
of thing where they in my view high
34:45
t tends to be something like
34:47
an early t that you would give and children
34:50
perhaps and they came in from school something with
34:52
a little more substance to that way my aunt something
34:54
cool wells were fatal you might have them
34:56
in is that wonderful thing that we said beans
34:58
on has to this was something like that is this
35:01
of thing that i would get to my children if they came
35:03
in and often and couldn't wait for dinner
35:05
what a high tea is more of a meal then
35:08
there's a lot of visitors
35:10
refer to afternoon
35:12
tea as high tea and
35:14
i guess we don't really correct them anymore
35:16
not the we really mine
35:17
okay but that's very good to know because
35:20
i think what we're thinking about is the
35:22
afternoon tea and that's with all the ritual
35:24
and that's where you'd go to the fancy t romanov
35:27
in a fancy hotel or something like this
35:29
the key is really an d sort thing that you'll be
35:31
served will be sensitive sandwiches
35:33
a dainty sandwiches with the crust cut
35:35
up the bread and cucumber sandwiches
35:38
sometimes sex and then you will have egg
35:40
and crafts sandwiches then you'll have
35:42
scones and great debate
35:44
about whether you pronounce it's com os
35:47
current the majority of people
35:49
pronounce his own that put the number pronounce
35:51
his cabinet it varies but this is i can
35:53
little take often with
35:56
in obs he'll terminate so raises
35:58
it depends a certain of very different
36:00
ways but generally that's how they are and
36:02
you happening house and put strawberry
36:05
jam when he to side and then great
36:07
big spoonful of
36:09
cream clotted cream
36:11
oh i think it's probably
36:14
a minimum of sixty five percent
36:16
sat which at to you in
36:18
the us would probably qualify as butter
36:21
it's very very rich
36:23
then it's quite delicious you just getting
36:25
me all excited your breath assess the how really
36:28
i gotta admit snow when i like what i like this is
36:30
beautiful scones or scotland's i
36:32
slice them very thinly so that
36:35
so can have almost like have loaf of bread and and i
36:37
can put the clotted cream in the in cream jam
36:39
on each little thin layers that kosher
36:41
well i'm your neighbor it depends i think you can
36:43
do pretty much what you want but and the way
36:46
and i tend to do it has cut them in half and then
36:48
put the strawberry jam and then there's dollop of cream
36:50
on the middle and i keep to have separate
36:53
i'm and eat them just like that you sort
36:55
of eat them in one half and then of course you've got to
36:57
leave some room for pastries
37:00
and cakes which will follow so it's
37:02
not something that's to be hurried that's
37:04
an elegant aspect to it and you're expected
37:06
to take your time over it if i went
37:08
for afternoon tea at three o'clock i certainly
37:11
wouldn't expect to leave much before
37:13
about five one five thirty
37:15
and i probably would [unk]
37:16
nice evening either i bet
37:18
not sought help us invasion this you get this
37:21
three tiered silver tray don't
37:23
you you do they often is
37:25
presented night that take us through that from the
37:27
bottom to the time
37:29
the button a often you will have to eat
37:31
sandwiches and everything to sandwiches
37:33
says you imagine a slice of bread cut into
37:35
probably about six segments sometimes
37:37
have been trying
37:38
the without the crust
37:39
or without across yes across the i
37:42
remember reading somewhere of somebody
37:44
saying you didn't slice off the crust
37:46
wasn't crust wasn't you give to the poor subtle
37:48
was very snobby but you caitlyn
37:51
and you make them as delicate and dainty as
37:53
possible and then on the next tear up
37:55
you've got scones and then on the final
37:57
two you've got a tiny little cakes
37:59
oh hey , i'm speaking
38:02
with britain lonsdale and brit is blue badge
38:04
guide she sent me for years in london as i work
38:06
on my guidebook there and will have brought [unk] contact
38:08
information on our website at the radio corner
38:11
rick steves dot com or phone number is eight
38:13
seven seven three three three seven four
38:15
to five and charles on the phone in portland
38:17
oregon cheryl thanks for your call great
38:21
i'm outgoing with a common for
38:23
afternoon tea replace them once you recommend
38:25
which is the dorchester hotel i've
38:28
been there twice afternoon tea and really
38:30
enjoyed it graces gray ambience
38:33
in a very relaxing atmosphere
38:35
the dorchester
38:36
absolutely lovely and i would agree
38:38
completely as a marvelous hotel
38:41
and it as a very good afternoon tea
38:43
sure when you are having the t did you have the
38:45
at the three tiered silver setting
38:48
yeah well actually they brought a platter
38:50
sandwiches which you could select from
38:52
i'm and that was my downfall
38:55
be too many of those but then later on a broad
38:57
three tiered with the stones and
39:00
a couple of other items with the clotted
39:02
cream and the jam and then later
39:05
they brought a platter desserts which
39:06
ah good
39:09
the you wouldn't do you do that sometimes
39:11
as year were you surrounded by
39:13
what seemed like in own up to the
39:16
aristocratic english people are was it
39:18
something that a tourist could feel comfortable
39:21
i would only say a tourist a so
39:23
comfortable in it they do have a dress code
39:26
bad if you have flags and
39:28
a nice shirt or you know nice coat or
39:30
something like that you would happily sit right in
39:32
and i never felt all uncomfortable
39:35
all uncomfortable it was stuff he says the staff
39:37
at the hotel the would create just
39:39
need the whole experience
39:41
the one thing i learned when i was having my t is
39:43
that the actual selection of he is important
39:45
to brit what can you tell us about the
39:48
variety of tease you might be able to choose from
39:50
there's a huge variety but the most important
39:52
thing to remember i think is that we always have it with milk
39:55
sometimes i've noticed when have gone with groups
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of people or individuals they
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don't expect to have milk in their t but
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most of us will have milk automatically
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and i know that you don't have a
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sorts of peace that will be said for often and
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he will be things like don't see link it
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lots of us me particularly like
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a t called oh gray apparently
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the queen very fond of laps thanks to show
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but you can have anything really for afternoon
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tea and you certainly won't have fun of
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fruit teeth or anything like that it'll always
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be india know i turn the t
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that sort of thing will be served and i
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think something like darjeeling is his their lights
40:33
as pleasant t austin places
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do their own afternoon tea blends
40:37
things that they feel a suitable certainly
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at the end of it your throat so much that you
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will almost undoubtedly have undoubtedly
40:43
have is caffeine and sugar
40:45
rush
40:47
so cheryl on unix is to land and body or
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t plans
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i'm i would have we go back to the dorchester
40:52
it was in i thought about trying different
40:55
places such experience there was so great
40:58
is his ego with what you know and says oh the joy
41:00
was things was things certainly go there again
41:01
that good share from portland thanks to the com
41:04
thank you
41:05
and diana in that
41:07
the paid emails us and she writes
41:09
when in london i had high tea
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at rounds hotel at the ritz and
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that the stafford hotel they're all great
41:16
and fairly pricey
41:17
what are some of the less traditional places that serve
41:19
fine afternoon tease britta
41:21
you know about the high tea at browns hotel
41:24
at the ritz at the stafford
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yes i do actually and i've been
41:28
to all of them and in fact
41:30
is you look at my sicker you can tell that
41:32
to fit it into a nightmare as
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something of a great enjoyed or of often
41:36
in t but some unity vary
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tremendously in terms of the full to the ambient
41:41
so atmosphere you want because some places
41:43
will have music sometimes i'll have
41:45
a plan a pair sometimes i'll have a little chamber
41:47
orchestra so you can go very grand
41:50
and time or you can go very
41:52
low key and an awful lot of little places
41:54
will do afternoon tea and so
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it really rather depends what sort
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of experience you you can go
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into many cafes in london based
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simple little cafes and they will give you a scone
42:05
with jam and cream cheaper
42:08
places perhaps and perfectly
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nice just behind kensington palace you have
42:12
the orange tree and they will do and afternoon
42:14
tea where you can just tarzan chance
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com and cream and a cup of
42:19
tea and the to be much less expensive
42:21
than unit the big forty pounds layouts
42:23
has something a little more glamorous the
42:26
sort of places or else you could go at
42:28
you know into any little hotel and and
42:30
not have to face the full monty
42:32
as we say into a just
42:34
have a storm and cream unit has plenty
42:37
of places where you could find this
42:38
so i suppose you can talk to the people in your
42:40
hotel you can look at your guidebook or if
42:43
you hire a private guide guides will all have experiences
42:45
like you for the place to go
42:47
forty depending on your budget and and
42:49
how glamorous you want to go this is travel
42:51
with or exceeds we're talking about afternoon tea
42:54
the ritual of a fancy break in
42:56
the afternoon with britain lonsdale is a blue bad
42:58
guy inland she joins
43:00
us from the travel with rick steves show archive
43:04
basically the teaser in the afternoon
43:06
what what is the typical time for t way
43:08
user me what we would think would
43:10
be about three o'clock having said
43:13
that such as the popularity of often
43:15
in t you will find a lot of places
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well i hesitate to say cashing in on it
43:20
because obviously they're meeting a demand that
43:22
you will find places that will stop doing
43:24
it very early for example or it's
43:26
hotel they serve it from a net and
43:28
thirty in the morning senate one thirty
43:30
than at three thirty minutes
43:32
and i said he and then at seven thirty they have
43:34
various settings so that
43:36
sir you know really clutter loss of afternoon
43:39
tea but some the london hotel
43:41
that recently won an award for that ruston
43:43
in t they serve it between
43:45
two and six is almost always
43:48
best to have a reservation however because
43:50
said you get popular it's the sort of
43:52
place where you would take somebody to celebrate
43:54
something unit will refund got visitors in
43:56
town i had some indian friends in
43:58
town and took them to form
43:59
the nuisances
44:00
while ago and they absolutely lost
44:03
it although they were wearing jeans
44:05
that faith sort of course was terribly sustainable
44:07
and we had to be tucked away in the corner
44:09
because there is quite a strict dress code
44:12
and genes whilst to then
44:14
would have seemed the height of sasson out
44:16
to the people in fort mason says
44:18
in a not the correct dress so
44:21
you may get in with casual dress but you're likely
44:23
to be tucked away in a corner clap sub
44:25
play here less time you were enjoying
44:27
a t with one of your friends in london or
44:30
was at a full pie you you recognized
44:32
from americans that were there in the room for
44:34
what what is something you would warn us about
44:36
what i would say would be go with the flow
44:39
and go with the experience don't
44:41
go to afternoon tea and sex oh no i don't
44:43
drink tea has ,
44:45
a you that if you haven't or a
44:48
decided that you're going to have a cup of tea try
44:50
it with milk in it and just see
44:52
the way you do it what one of the things that is so
44:54
incredibly endearing i signed about
44:57
and last the american people i go around
44:59
to it is sweet say they
45:01
asked how is the right way to do it
45:03
and what should i be doing it like this should i
45:05
be doing it like that and i find that completely
45:08
completely and it makes me sick since my heart
45:11
because there really isn't to complete
45:13
the right way oh you will get some very stuffy
45:15
english people say oh no no
45:17
cancer store in a building as
45:20
you must do you scum this way but at
45:22
least i don't think it really matters as long as
45:24
you love the experience and unit
45:26
to slap hop dance
45:27
yeah probably make a point to take your time
45:29
you don't want to russia t
45:31
definitely not in any way you can't
45:33
because it is don't even have eaten it
45:35
all madly you'll you'll be so full
45:37
view you just won't be able to manage the rest
45:39
of it says
45:40
very very gently a question
45:43
about the kids self which the thought between loose
45:45
t and t that comes in the bag
45:47
well i don't think he missed
45:49
his a really good afternoon tea places
45:51
you will find team tea bags you'll
45:53
find loose tea and that's
45:55
really perceived as being the classiest way
45:57
to serve it and you will get a
45:59
strainer the in a single strain
46:02
it and she'll cop that sometimes comes as a
46:04
bit it's a surprise to people cause i knew is
46:06
doing that
46:07
i'm rick steves this is travel with rick steves we're
46:09
talking with friends lonsdale who's and
46:11
blue bad guy in london for it let's close
46:13
it off by just taking us to
46:15
your favorite place for afternoon
46:17
tea in london and paint a little pitcher
46:19
well when my favorite places and it's
46:21
certainly not in this climate place is full and
46:23
the masons epic story on piccadilly
46:26
and when you go in at street level there's lots
46:28
of lovely cheese sale and it's
46:31
just really beautiful inside of
46:33
guy upstairs today tilts restaurant
46:35
on the fourth floor which they now for often
46:37
into
46:38
and lovely comfortable sizes
46:41
so comfortable that i went there with my children
46:43
months while back and on that my boys and asleep
46:46
that's how comfortable it was and as
46:48
a man playing
46:48
the pier in a painless popular tune
46:51
a request it's all very
46:53
refined and very sort of some peaceful
46:56
your up above the roar of the traffic
46:58
and yourself so nicely
47:01
proper napkins not paper napkins
47:03
or anything like that lovely little strain
47:06
of for the list is t that sir brought
47:08
here lucky key part
47:10
of course everything is so nicely
47:12
done the devil is always in the detail
47:14
and for me
47:15
the tenant full in the nation
47:16
a perfect and
47:18
richard i'm
47:22
a pretty and the chocolate cream and the little
47:24
pastries just so delicious
47:27
that's my favorite
47:28
lunch don't hang you tuck this makes me
47:30
want to raise my pinky and heaven
47:33
time and porno amazing there's some great
47:35
place like that stacey so my lover jade
47:38
okay that time were led into plaza it's
47:40
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47:43
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47:51
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47:53
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47:56
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48:02
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48:09
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48:11
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48:28
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48:31
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48:38
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48:42
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48:45
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48:47
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48:51
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48:53
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48:55
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48:59
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49:02
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