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1:37

Kayla and Leah each week as they discuss

1:39

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1:41

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1:48

justice for all. Alright, let's get

1:50

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1:51

Begin. You are listening

1:53

to one nation undercrime, a historical

1:56

chronological true crime podcast.

1:58

Each week, we go through our nation's history and

2:01

discuss one case from each year

2:03

starting in eighteen

2:04

hundred. I'm Kayla, and I'm Leah.

2:09

This

2:09

is I mean, it it starts with another sigh

2:11

this week. I

2:12

was gonna say, what's up with a sigh of

2:14

man? I mean, I said my

2:15

'The, and

2:16

then you side while here.

2:18

Why are you upset with me? Why don't you

2:20

like me? So I brought you here

2:22

today to discuss your future sure with

2:24

POC. Just like Cool.

2:27

Uncool. I've done your performance review.

2:30

And and it's fabulous.

2:32

So that's our view. Right at the

2:35

top, I'm gonna go ahead and let everybody know.

2:38

This

2:39

is not Leah's last day. It's not his

2:41

last name. However,

2:43

let's just get that over with. There will

2:45

be some themes in

2:48

this episode that you may

2:50

not feel comfortable

2:53

with listening

2:55

with children

2:57

under a certain age.

2:58

Oh, little ears. Little ears.

3:00

If this is a conversation you would

3:02

like to have with them, by all

3:06

do you? I don't care. However,

3:10

just FYI,

3:12

once we get into the story, there

3:16

will be heavy conversations

3:21

that some people may not be

3:23

ready to have. I

3:25

need to know more about what kind of

3:27

heavy conversations. Let's talk about

3:29

sex today. Let's talk

3:31

about you and me. Let's

3:34

talk about. I'll add all that.

3:36

I'll anyway.

3:41

So That

3:43

is a main theme of the

3:45

wheat weird

3:46

Weird. Sandy. We are not

3:49

taking a deep dive really. We did discuss

3:51

terminology around sex

3:53

work before. We will discuss

3:56

like brothels and such

3:58

in this episode. And our

4:00

case does take place in

4:02

a brothels so there it's

4:04

unavoidable

4:05

conversation. That's it. It needs

4:07

to be had. So if

4:09

that's not some just I just want people

4:12

to know in case

4:13

they get yourself in this situation that you

4:15

have to have a conversation that you're not -- Exactly. --

4:17

have. So anyways,

4:21

Let's let's we'll just we we

4:23

gotta

4:23

go. Alright. To in that pitch perfect.

4:26

I know. I know. You're welcome. About

4:28

that soundtrack. I love

4:30

it. I love it. Love it. Love

4:32

it. Alright.

4:35

I totally have a toner for him.

4:38

Our sources for this

4:41

week, we have, and this is gonna

4:43

tell you exactly who our cases about

4:45

the Helen Hewitt murder.

4:47

Violence, gender,

4:49

and sexual latitiousness in

4:52

antebellum America. Well,

4:53

there you go. Mhmm. It was

4:56

very good. It was very, very in-depth.

5:00

And the woman who

5:02

wrote it believe it's Patty

5:04

Klein. Anyway, she did a fantastic job. And

5:06

then my NSA

5:09

agent's favorite, 'The

5:11

by Gas Light. So,

5:13

we're gonna get to our events in eighteen thirty

5:15

six, January fifth.

5:18

Davy Crockett arrived in

5:20

Nacogdoches Texas

5:22

to help with the Texas revolution. Mhmm.

5:26

February fifth, Henry Row

5:28

Campbell built the first 440A

5:31

steam locomotive type that will

5:33

soon become the most common on all

5:35

railroads of the United States.

5:38

February twenty third. The

5:40

battle of the Alamo began and the

5:42

Alamo was under attack for thirteen

5:45

days until March sixth. Fifteen

5:48

hundred to three thousand Mexican

5:51

soldiers under general Santa

5:53

Ana killed a hundred and eighty

5:55

two to two hundred and fifty

5:57

seven, the number is not quite known.

6:00

Texans, including Sorry.

6:05

William Travis, Jim Bowie,

6:08

and Davy Crockett. I was gonna say

6:11

new new bowie was in

6:11

there. He's got a mean 'The, though. We know

6:14

that after the next week's episode.

6:15

Special after Stonewalden hit him

6:18

with a cane.

6:20

February twenty fifth, Samuel

6:23

Colt patented the first

6:25

multi shot revolving cylinder

6:27

breathing. I know that's gonna be a

6:29

duh. Which enabled

6:31

the firearm to be fired

6:34

multiple times without reloading.

6:36

'The manufactured the first thirty four

6:39

caliber pistol on March fifth

6:41

of that year, and it was specifically

6:43

named the Texas model.

6:46

Jewett interesting 'The model.

6:48

March second, the Republic of Texas declared

6:51

independence from Mexico and

6:53

'The. 'The twenty no.

6:56

March sixteenth. Next one's the next

6:58

one's the twenty seventh. 'The sixteenth,

7:00

the constitution of the Republic of Texas

7:02

was approved and legalized

7:04

slavery?

7:06

Because

7:06

why not legalized? Yep. After

7:08

we Yeah. We've already gotten a move. Exactly.

7:10

Oh, okay. Yeah. Okay.

7:13

Anyways, March twenty

7:16

seventh. Now we're two twenty. The first

7:18

Mormon temple was dedicated in

7:20

Kirkland, Ohio. April

7:22

twentieth, the territory of Wisconsin

7:25

was created 'The fourth,

7:28

the ancient order

7:30

of hibernians away.

7:34

Yeah. It's an Irish Catholic

7:36

fraternal organization. And

7:39

it was founded in New York City. Okay,

7:42

'The. And Jewett

7:45

Arkansas officially became the

7:47

twenty fifth state in the United

7:49

States. Kath why done? Welcome 'The. Welcome.

7:52

July first, President Andrew

7:54

Jackson announced to congress a

7:56

request by James

7:59

Smithson of a

8:01

hundred thousand gold sovereigns.

8:04

Which was to found the Smithsonian

8:07

institution in Washington,

8:09

easy.

8:10

Very, very good institution. That's

8:12

one place I'm okay with bones going. July

8:17

eleventh, president Andrew Jackson

8:19

issues the special I

8:22

don't know how to say especially circular.

8:24

He was not assassinated. No.

8:27

And it was an executive order which

8:29

required payment for government

8:32

land to be specifically done in

8:34

gold and silver? 'The,

8:36

you can't just give me a check and or

8:38

an IOU that means you got to

8:40

give me the 'The, honey. 1836

8:44

began the failure of land speculation

8:46

economy that would lead to the panic of eighteen

8:48

thirty

8:48

seven? Oh, yeah. Well, that

8:51

1836 good. July

8:54

thirteenth. What's

8:56

'The Friday? I don't

8:57

know. The first

9:02

US patent, number one,

9:05

was done for locomotive

9:08

wheels after nine

9:10

thousand nine hundred and fifty seven

9:12

'The

9:12

pets. They

9:15

officially started named like, numbering

9:17

the patent. So this

9:17

was

9:18

number one, but there were nine thousand nine hundred

9:20

and fifty seven patents

9:21

issued for this. How did they

9:24

keep track of them.

9:24

And I guess that's why they decided to do that.

9:27

I don't know. It was just

9:28

funny. What kind of diapers were wearing the

9:30

show before that?

9:32

Okay. 'The. Seriously.

9:35

I 'The, I don't drink. I guess

9:37

I have this piece of paper.

9:40

That's it. I didn't use it alphabetical.

9:42

Had it -- Oh, no. No. -- stars.

9:45

July thirtieth, the first English

9:47

language newspaper was published

9:49

in Hawaii. Oh, they eat.

9:51

'The first, I've never been there. I wanna

9:53

go. I've never I've never been there. I don't know if I

9:55

have a big desire to go, but Like at

9:57

1836. Alright. My friend is still living there.

10:00

I don't know. Her mom still does.

10:03

September first, 'The. Sorry.

10:06

Nursesa 'The arrived

10:09

to snuff 'The mom's

10:11

name, Nursesa. Mhmm.

10:14

She arrived

10:15

in Wallowwala,

10:18

Washington. That's

10:19

a tough thing. I know. Say it again. Wallowwala,

10:21

Washington. And

10:23

she was one of the first

10:26

white Why they had to put

10:27

this? I don't

10:28

know. But

10:28

she was apparently one of the first white women

10:30

to settle west of the rock key mountains.

10:33

So That

10:34

was a big deal to get to get I

10:36

mean, there's not. Somebody out there.

10:38

September twenty fifth Sam

10:41

Houston was elected as president of the

10:43

Republic of Texas. I wonder where

10:45

Houston comes from. Mhmm.

10:47

September ninth, this?

10:49

Okay. This

10:52

was a bear to figure out how to explain.

10:56

Ralph 'The Emerson published his

10:58

influential essay nature

11:01

in the United States outlining

11:03

his beliefs in

11:06

transcendentalism. 'The you

11:09

know what transcendentalism

11:12

is? Oh,

11:16

there we go.

11:18

I was thinking of George Stratton

11:20

lyrics. So

11:23

ahead. Transcendentalism, 'The,

11:26

is a philosophy that

11:29

spirituality cannot be

11:31

achieved through reason and rationalism,

11:33

but through self reflection and

11:35

intuition. Essentially,

11:38

transcendentists believes spirituality

11:40

isn't something you can explain. It's

11:43

something that you feel. Some

11:45

beliefs are that

11:47

humans are all inherently good.

11:49

Society and its institutions such as

11:51

organized religion and politics are

11:53

corrupt and humans strive to be

11:55

independent and self reliant. Spirit spirituality

11:58

should come from the self and not an

12:00

organized religion. Insight

12:02

and experience are more important

12:04

than logic and nature is beautiful,

12:06

and it should be appreciated, and

12:08

it should not be altered by

12:10

humans. Essentially, were

12:15

saying he was a tree hacker. It

12:18

was it it it let me tell you

12:20

guys, it was not easy to figure

12:22

out how to explain what this was

12:24

because nowhere

12:26

did it have any, like,

12:29

good explanation. Like,

12:31

the explanation was --

12:32

Yeah. -- terrible. And I couldn't figure out

12:35

what it was meaning. So anyways, I had to

12:37

sort through it. That's essentially what it

12:39

means. Well, the only the only reference that

12:41

I had was

12:43

George Straits, all my

12:45

exes live in Texas. And

12:47

the the line by transcendental

12:49

meditation, I go there each now.

12:50

Yeah. And

12:51

so they only think 'The think of, you know,

12:53

it's 'The, meditation Oh,

12:55

so that 'The mean that

12:57

'The by spiritual because they believed in

12:59

feeling in spiritual Exactly. So I mean,

13:01

inside of that, 'The was like meditation, you

13:04

know, that's that's the only thing that I could think

13:06

of. So

13:07

there's just Thank you, Georgerade. Mhmm.

13:10

October twelfth eighteen.

13:12

Can't give 'The much on that. 'The mean,

13:16

George

13:16

Streit's awesome. I mean, there's that. Yes.

13:19

Okay. October

13:21

twelfth, eighteen inches of snow

13:23

fell in Bridgewater, New York.

13:25

October fifteenth, Alexander

13:28

Twilight. Became

13:30

the first. It

13:34

says specifically African

13:36

American. So that's what I went with.

13:38

Okay. He became the

13:40

first African American elected

13:42

to public office in

13:44

the Vermont House of

13:45

Representatives. Okay. 'The was

13:48

Alexander Twilight, and I just like that.

13:50

I

13:50

think I just like that

13:51

name. I wish we had some

13:53

snow

13:53

here. On October

13:55

twenty fourth. I'm gonna be traveling to 'The, by

13:58

the way. True. I will

14:01

be

14:01

True. No. I will have Arty

14:03

been to Maryland last

14:06

week. It's

14:07

too much to think right now. I

14:08

know. Right. But, yes, you will be going

14:11

to the place where snow is. Hopefully, there

14:13

will be snow. Okay. September

14:15

twenty fourth of the American patent

14:17

for a phosphorus friction

14:20

match was filed

14:22

I

14:25

know, was filed

14:27

by alonzo Dwight

14:29

Phillips of 'The, Massachusetts, so

14:31

essentially matches. Here we

14:34

go. Yeah. December fourth, the whig

14:36

party held its first national convention in

14:38

Harrisburg, Pennsylvania. 'The

14:41

seventh. Martin Van Buren

14:43

was elected as the eighth president

14:45

of the United States. 'The

14:49

fourteenth, the

14:53

Toledo War, Unofficially

14:55

ended. Which was a result of a

14:57

boundary dispute between Ohio and

14:59

Michigan. The resolution

15:01

was passed. And

15:03

the resolution was called the frostbitten

15:06

convention.

15:09

Yeah. So there was a

15:12

war Between

15:14

Tuesday?

15:14

Yes.

15:14

It was AAA boundary

15:17

dispute between

15:19

Michigan

15:19

-- And it was a full on war. -- the Toledo

15:21

War. Interesting.

15:24

So, yes, we had a US patent

15:26

office, but on December fifteenth, it burned

15:28

down. So that one

15:30

So who cares if it was numbered? Oh gosh.

15:35

December twentieth, a sudden

15:37

freeze killed many travelers

15:40

in Illinois. December

15:42

twenty third, the Georgia Female

15:45

College, now known as

15:47

Wesleyan College -- Okay. -- was

15:49

chartered in 'The, Georgia

15:51

as the first college

15:54

for women in the United States.

15:56

Nice. Gotta love it. Undated

16:00

events in eighteen thirty

16:01

six, we have the American Tempress

16:04

Union, which was established.

16:06

We all know what these these are.

16:08

The first Mc Duffy readers

16:11

were published. Yes.

16:14

And there's for those who don't know, it's like little reader.

16:16

Like a lot of homeschool

16:18

parents still use them today, but a

16:20

lot of A lot of

16:22

kids will have them in the roads. Anyways, I

16:24

remember McAfee readers. Let's you learn to

16:26

read from. And

16:29

the first gosh.

16:31

This is another one. Okay. The

16:33

first printed literature in

16:38

Asrian Neo 'The

16:41

-- Yep. -- was published

16:43

by Justin Perkins, who was an American

16:45

Presbyterian 'The Missionary. Our births

16:50

in eighteen thirty six, January

16:52

tenth, we have Charles Ingalls. He

16:54

was settler and father

16:56

of Laura Ingalls' father.

16:59

Oh, did you love those books? No.

17:01

They were okay. Oh,

17:02

he was a

17:02

capricorn. Wait a minute. Hold

17:05

the finger. Fine. It just wasn't

17:08

my cup of tea. But, I mean, I read all of them.

17:10

They were good. But, I mean, like, I wouldn't

17:12

go back and read them. Oh, you

17:14

'The me say is sad. Like, that's

17:16

my job on this earth. Oh.

17:18

Have you not figured that out?

17:20

Oh, okay. Sorry.

17:21

That's not kind.

17:24

I had one of the teachers

17:27

that

17:27

It's not It's also not surprising that

17:29

that would be your favorite

17:30

It's not it's not my favorite

17:32

one

17:32

those, but I I did. I loved those books.

17:35

One of the the teachers that taught

17:37

with mom, she called me

17:38

half pint. And I have been

17:41

told I'm more than one

17:43

person that I remind them of

17:45

Melissa

17:45

Gilbert.

17:49

Especially from when she was

17:51

on little house

17:53

on the

17:54

prairie. So Does it

17:55

really surprise you though that I would not

17:58

like something that's 'The known to be

18:00

inherently, like,

18:02

little girl -- Yeah. -- loved her

18:03

day. Yeah. And I mean, it's like

18:05

my hero. Like

18:07

and I

18:07

am, you know, my daddy's my

18:10

'The still, and I'm

18:11

forty two years old. I mean, I'm dead

18:14

inside. So You are not

18:16

dead. Maybe. But I

18:18

mean, I'm I will say, I

18:20

mean, Laura and her

18:22

paw, you know, she the

18:24

worst thing in the world was

18:26

disappointing her dad. And

18:28

still at forty two years old, that is one

18:30

of the worst things for me is for my

18:32

daddy to be disappointed with

18:33

me. And, you know, it 'The that

18:36

easier.

18:39

What? Not having one.

18:42

You're so bad,

18:45

Kayla. You know I'm dark. So I

18:47

mean No. For

18:49

those who haven't caught up on all

18:51

the episodes, my dad died when I was really young,

18:53

it's fine. I I joke about to my feelings, but -- 'The. --

18:56

she has very dark

18:56

humor. So I

18:59

was afraid that's what you

19:00

were gonna say. Because

19:02

I was with a little Green'.

19:04

Oh. I was so afraid it's what you're gonna

19:06

say.

19:06

And I mean, really, like I mean, like,

19:08

this that like, the

19:10

sigh, like, there's a sigh that

19:12

Daddy does and, like, the well,

19:15

baby. And I'm, like, sorry.

19:18

And I'm forty two years

19:20

old. I'm a grown 'The.

19:23

But y'all can't.

19:26

Anyways, look. 'The

19:28

just saying I mean, I'm a

19:30

grown woman and, like, I can still make

19:32

my decisions and

19:33

all, but I really want my 'The

19:35

to be proud of seeing Not shocking. 'The shocking.

19:38

So

19:39

yeah. Anyway You have the books.

19:41

Love love love love.

19:45

They were good books. I just they're okay. Anyways,

19:47

I would love

19:47

to go see, like, the museum

19:50

and stuff and everything. See,

19:51

I'm good. Let's look at

19:54

it. I mean,

19:56

I still love you. I mean, I

19:57

still love you too. But I'd rather I'd rather go

19:59

to Zac Bagins home and 'The and

20:02

Do

20:02

you even cover there and give you a big hug? No.

20:05

Then stop talking about that.

20:07

'The. Jamie like I said,

20:09

Charles Andrews, he has a

20:11

capricorn. Anyways,

20:14

February ninth, Franklin

20:16

Benjamin Gowen. He was the

20:18

president of the Philadelphia

20:21

and reading railroad, do you know how hard it

20:23

was for me to type reading

20:26

railroad instead of

20:28

reading rainbow, reading

20:30

me. It took I I was, like,

20:32

it in my mind, it was not

20:34

it was not

20:37

I can go

20:38

to my Just Are you

20:39

done? I was

20:40

just being your background. I was being your

20:42

background as you were talking. Can I not be

20:44

your background music?

20:46

No. Lea.

20:47

Leah's two glasses deep at this point,

20:50

guys. Should you find me? This is

20:51

her. You ain't got to go tailing all

20:53

my business. Alright. I mean,

20:54

in your background music, I have a

20:57

beautiful voice. I just might say

20:59

angelic. Some some

21:01

probably would. Okay.

21:03

Can you take it? February

21:06

ninth Franklin Benjamin Gowen. He

21:08

was the president of the Philadelphia

21:11

and reading railroad, and

21:13

he has identified with

21:15

the undercover infiltration of

21:18

the Mollie Maguire's mine

21:21

workers. The saloon keepers

21:23

and low level local political figures,

21:26

he arranged and

21:28

tried for multiple acts

21:30

of violence. These these

21:32

groups. Yes.

21:34

This is so confusing. All

21:36

of these people were

21:40

tried for multiple acts of violence,

21:42

including murders and attempted murders

21:44

of coal, mine

21:45

operators, 'The and workers, and

21:48

peace officers. he was

21:50

actually murdered.

21:51

Yeah.

21:51

So he is going to be the

21:54

case. Dang. Dang. He

21:56

was an

21:57

Aquarius. February

21:58

twenty fourth, we have Winslow

22:01

Homer.

22:01

He was an American 'The- I know. --

22:03

he was an American painter and printmaker,

22:05

and he was one of the foremost

22:07

painters in the nineteenth

22:08

century, and he is a major figure

22:11

in American art. Did

22:12

his paints make him go a little nuts

22:15

too? I don't know, but that

22:17

ties back to that show. I've been watching. Anyways, he has a pisces.

22:20

May 'The, Jason Gould

22:22

was an American Railroad magnet and

22:25

financial that you

22:27

later who is generally it

22:29

it looks like spectator when I went to read it.

22:31

I wonder why you drew that. And I was like,

22:33

oh, that's that's You

22:36

laid He is generally identified

22:38

as one of the Robert

22:41

Barron's. 1836 that

22:43

was apparently a derogatory term

22:46

applied to those who had a

22:48

certain amount of wealth.

22:50

It was, anyways, his

22:53

show how

22:53

they got

22:54

there well. Yeah. Mhmm. His

22:56

show, like, the carpetbangers, maybe, like,

22:58

after the civil war Maybe so. I think

23:00

I don't Probably. His

23:03

Sharp and often unscrupulous business

23:05

practices made him one of the wealthiest men

23:07

of the late nineteenth century. Gold was

23:09

an unpopular figure during his

23:11

life and Green' vein's controversial to

23:14

this

23:14

day. He's a

23:15

Gemini. Sounds like the right

23:18

guy?

23:18

I mean solid. August sixteenth,

23:21

John Pierce was an American professor

23:23

of chemistry and inventor

23:25

who participated in the development

23:27

of the telephone. He's Leo.

23:30

August twenty fifth, Brett

23:34

Hart was an American

23:36

short story writer and poet best

23:38

remembered for short fiction, featuring

23:42

minors, gamblers, and other

23:44

romantic figures of the

23:46

California Goldrush era. 'The.

23:50

Like me.

23:52

And November

23:55

eight. She's looking at

23:57

me with that look, guys. 'The.

23:59

Who everyone will

24:02

know simply by his name alone?

24:05

Whose name is

24:09

everywhere,

24:11

especially if you were in a certain

24:13

section.

24:16

Of the store. Milton

24:19

Bradley. He is

24:21

an American business magnate

24:23

'The pioneer and 'The barrier.

24:26

He is the one who launched the

24:28

board game industry. Oh,

24:31

he's a 'The. Is he

24:34

responsible for Monopoly? I

24:37

know Monopoly was a

24:39

Milton

24:39

Bradley.

24:39

I don't know if he's responsible for it. The

24:42

first 'The that

24:43

they made was kind of, like,

24:46

checkers, but not really. Okay. Checkers is

24:48

something I

24:48

hate 'The with a passion.

24:50

For those

24:51

who are weird like

24:54

me,

24:54

I don't

24:55

think it's Milton Bradley that makes a Wiki board I

24:57

don't remember who it is, but don't think that it's in. Think that's Parker

24:59

Brothers. 'The it's Parker Brothers.

25:03

But 'The, our

25:05

deaths in eighteen thirty six, January

25:07

thirtieth Betsy Ross. Oh.

25:09

I put flag maker maybe.

25:13

Yeah. Perhaps. Who knows? March

25:15

sixteenth is supposed to -- Yeah.

25:18

-- allegedly. March

25:21

sixteenth, Nathaniel. I gotta

25:24

say this very clearly.

25:28

Bowditch. Oh, yes.

25:30

Good job on the day. Yes.

25:32

He was a mathematician and

25:34

credited as the founder of

25:37

marine navigation. Oh, interesting.

25:39

Mhmm. June twenty eight, James

25:41

Madison, the fourth president of the United

25:43

States

25:43

died, and September fourteenth.

25:47

Aaron

25:47

Burke, the third vice president

25:50

of the United States who did not die

25:51

in a duel. And

25:53

murder of Alexander Hamilton, you will never

25:55

convince me otherwise. Oh,

25:57

man. You did kill him?

25:59

You did. Anyways

26:00

How how Who would try to convince you

26:03

otherwise? I've just one that shot him 'The making

26:05

sure everyone's wearing. So now we're getting into our case

26:08

for this week, and you will

26:10

kind of see the direction that our case

26:12

is going. So on April tenth of eighteen

26:14

thirty six,

26:16

Helen Hewett was found in her bed

26:18

brutally murdered 'The a man who

26:20

was a frequent visitor of

26:22

hers named Richard P. Robinson

26:26

immediately became the main suspect.

26:28

The murder trial following the investigation

26:30

is known as one of the first set

26:33

scandals to receive a detailed

26:35

press reporting with the most

26:37

notable being the New York

26:38

Herald. Oh, and

26:40

we discussed. Last week. That's big news.

26:43

Our case this week takes place in New York City,

26:45

and we have covered it a couple of times

26:47

in different

26:48

cases. So we were taking a different

26:50

route for this portion of the episode

26:52

this week. Quick

26:53

question. Mhmm.

26:54

Do we think that the New York Aderold

26:56

covered it in order to gain notoriety because

26:59

it was a new

26:59

paper. We'll see I

27:02

don't think so. Okay. There's

27:04

something

27:04

'The come up. I was just

27:06

curious. Get back to the hey. Yeah. We'll get

27:08

back to them. Okay. Because a lot of people see

27:10

that the title of this episode is called

27:12

The Girl and Green'. AKA

27:14

Helen In the newspapers, they

27:18

started they they were calling her

27:20

the girl and Green will get to

27:22

y. Okay. So

27:24

but that was a name that the newspapers gave

27:26

her. Well, I mean, you have to have a a

27:28

catchy -- Yeah. -- title, someone

27:31

that is is 'The. Anyways so

27:33

Back in episode twenty five

27:36

titled The Sheriff's 'The, we discussed

27:38

terminology and why the term

27:40

prostitute has been

27:42

changed to sex worker. We went into that

27:44

extensively. You will see in this

27:46

case that sex work is a major theme and

27:48

arguably the cause

27:50

of the murder. So

27:53

we are going to go into a

27:55

brief discussion of kind of what

27:57

what the world of

27:59

sex work was like at

28:01

this

28:01

time. We're not going into, like, incredible deep detail,

28:04

but we're gonna talk about kinda how

28:06

kinda what was going on.

28:09

How popular was this? And a

28:11

couple of interesting things

28:14

that I didn't know and you'll be

28:16

shocked by. It's

28:18

fun facts, if you will.

28:21

Maybe. Fun

28:24

facts about

28:25

murder. About Anyways About sex

28:28

work. Yeah. And work. So

28:32

Even better. So

28:34

we're not only gonna get into the legality of

28:36

it, but also the types and locations.

28:38

In the nineteenth century, it was known

28:40

that a parlor house brothel,

28:43

catered to an upper class

28:45

client's health while a

28:47

body house had a

28:49

lower class client health. There

28:52

were also concert saloons where men

28:54

could eat, listen to live music,

28:56

watch a fight, or they could be catered

28:58

to by a lovely woman in one of

29:00

the upstairs

29:01

rooms. We've

29:01

seen Manhattan at all. I know. Right?

29:04

One stop shop. In Lower

29:06

Manhattan alone, just

29:09

Lower Manhattan, there were

29:11

over two hundred brothels.

29:15

Two hundred. And, yes, sex

29:17

work was illegal under the

29:19

Green' laws. But seeing as the police and city

29:21

officials were also some of the 'The.

29:24

1836 they were also bribed

29:26

by the brothel owners. Enforcement

29:29

was limited. The

29:32

argument was that regulating

29:34

sex work would be in opposition

29:36

to the public good. Alright.

29:39

Then the gold rush began. And from the

29:42

eighteen forties to nineteen hundred, the

29:44

mining towns attracted gambling

29:46

saloons and brothels.

29:50

The lauret coordinates.

29:53

Loret. This cracks me

29:55

up. I

29:57

So, it's the laret ordinance of eighteen

29:59

fifty seven, and it

30:02

prohibited sex work from being

30:04

offered

30:05

on the first floor

30:07

of buildings in New Orleans. Just the first floor

30:09

-- Oh, just

30:09

-- which was interesting because when I'd mentioned

30:12

that to my boyfriend, he was like, yeah.

30:14

That's why a lot of them

30:16

when you go,

30:17

like, to areas like that where that's

30:19

kind of like a prominent thing.

30:22

Like,

30:23

I don't think that her 'The

30:25

anymore. But in areas like that

30:27

where there's multiple floors, he said, yeah, that's why it's

30:29

on the second floor a lot of times. Why you have

30:31

to go upstairs? Oh, yeah.

30:33

So I was like,

30:36

alright.

30:36

Well, hey, how

30:37

do you know that, sir? Well, he was saying that it made

30:40

a lot of sense. Based off of that because he was

30:42

like, well, that makes perfect sense. That's why,

30:44

you know, you see those in different

30:46

places and they're on the second

30:48

floor. I was like, actually,

30:50

that makes sense. Are there you

30:53

good? So,

30:54

you know, Let's see.

30:56

The more you know. Yes.

30:59

But even with increasing regulations,

31:01

sex work continued to gain 'The.

31:05

And in eighteen fifty

31:08

It is estimated, it circulated

31:11

six point three

31:15

million

31:16

'The- Oh. -- dollars.

31:18

-- which was more then

31:22

the shipping and brewing

31:25

industry combined.

31:28

Whoa. Yeah. Then

31:30

during the Civil War,

31:32

army officers encouraged the

31:34

presence of sex workers to keep

31:37

morale

31:37

high. Well, yeah, the truth. Hello, hookers.

31:39

That's that's where the term hookers came

31:41

from. Right.

31:42

So because of the US because of

31:44

this US military commander, brigadier

31:46

general Robert s Granger

31:49

legalized sex work in Nashville,

31:51

Tennessee to

31:53

try and curb

31:56

venereal disease among

31:58

union soldiers. Nice.

32:00

It actually worked.

32:04

And the VD, which

32:06

is neural disease, if anybody doesn't

32:08

the VD rate fell. Some

32:10

people don't know, just saying. Okay. The nice

32:12

if not good I know. I can't

32:14

I can't say it every single time. So

32:17

anyways, The rate fell from around forty

32:20

four zero percent to

32:22

four percent. Nice. Due

32:25

to the legalization all sex

32:27

workers had to register to

32:29

work and they had

32:32

regular health checks by a board certified physician

32:34

every two weeks. The cost to

32:36

actually register was

32:38

five dollars and each check was

32:40

fifty cents. So they had

32:42

to actually be checked, and that's why this all was, you know,

32:45

happening. At the same time, Pennsylvania Avenue

32:47

in Washington DC had

32:49

been reduced to, quote, a

32:51

slum 'The was

32:53

called murder bay due to the

32:55

extensive criminal activity. THERE

32:58

WERE A TON OF SEX WORKERS IN THE AREA BECAUSE

33:00

THEY WERE THERE TO SERVE THE NEED OF

33:02

GENERAL Joseph HOKERS ARMY

33:04

OF THE

33:04

POTOMENT. WE DISCUSSED Well, I

33:07

this and where the term Hooker came

33:09

from in our episode of

33:10

the past due date. Beforehand too.

33:14

The area changed its name to the part.

33:16

The area changed its name to

33:18

the Hooker division and

33:20

the two blocks between Pennsylvania Avenue and Missouri

33:23

Avenue was known as Marvel Alley

33:25

due to the expensive brothels

33:27

that took up residence there. Nice.

33:31

In eighteen seventy three, Anthony Comstock

33:33

created the New York Society

33:35

for the suppression of vice.

33:39

This was an institution dedicated

33:41

to supervising the morality of

33:43

the

33:43

public. Okay.

33:46

How'd that go

33:47

for you? Just saying. Comstock

33:52

successfully influenced the United States

33:54

Congress to pass the Comstock

33:56

Law. Which made the

33:58

delivery of obscene, 'The, or

34:01

lasmicious material. And

34:04

any information 'The birth

34:08

control

34:09

illegal. Illegal.

34:11

Illegal. So you could not have any you

34:14

could not deliver any obscene material, but you

34:16

also couldn't give out any information on birth

34:18

control. It was legal. So

34:20

thanks for

34:22

that. won't

34:25

start. In eighteen seventy five, Congress passed the page act

34:27

of eighteen seventy five that made

34:29

it illegal to

34:32

transport women into

34:34

the United States to be used

34:36

as sex workers. In

34:38

eighteen eighty one, the birdcage theater

34:41

opened in Tombstone, Arizona. 'The, this

34:44

was an interesting one.

34:46

1836 included

34:49

a brothel in the basement 'The

34:52

fourteen crib

34:55

like structures suspended

34:58

from the ceiling called cages, which is how it got

35:01

its name. Oh my 'The

35:04

men such as

35:06

doc holiday, Batt

35:09

Masterson, Diamond Jim Brady, and George

35:11

Hurst frequented the

35:14

birdcage. I'm

35:16

Yihuckleberry. Green' eighteen

35:18

ninety, the term 'The light

35:20

district was first recorded in the

35:23

United States in a in

35:25

a paper from Sandusky, Ohio,

35:28

actually. For those not aware,

35:30

another name for the 'The light district

35:32

is the pleasure district This

35:35

is where, generally, a

35:37

wide variety of adult

35:39

entertainment is available

35:42

The name actually comes from the red lights that

35:44

were used as signs for a

35:47

brothel. The title for

35:49

longest running brothel in the United

35:52

States. Is it in

35:53

Montana?

35:54

It's in Montana. Yes. 'The

36:00

belonged to the Dumont's

36:02

brothers, and it was called the Dumont's brothel

36:04

in Butte,

36:05

Montana.

36:06

Yeah. It was

36:07

open from eighteen ninety

36:12

to nineteen

36:13

Eighty two.

36:14

Do you know why I need that?

36:17

Why?

36:19

Because my senior Everyone is

36:22

curious.

36:23

I know. My senior year. Mhmm. I went

36:25

on a mission trip to

36:27

Butte, Montana. Well, apparently

36:31

turned into a museum. I'm a little disappointed you didn't

36:33

go. Anyway Well,

36:34

I mean, I was kinda on a -- It's fine.

36:36

-- girls, national trip. So

36:39

not

36:39

a place that we would have

36:42

gone. I mean, I would have. When

36:44

when it closed, it

36:47

was described as quote, a

36:50

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36:53

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So given kind

39:08

of some of the laws

39:10

that were I'm gonna have to bring us down for

39:12

just a few minutes and there's a

39:16

reason there's a complete reason for it. Because I cannot discuss this.

39:18

We did talk about the page act of

39:20

eighteen seventy five that made it 'The.

39:23

To transport women into the nation for the use

39:25

of sex work. I cannot bring that

39:27

up without discussing something

39:30

extremely important that is extremely

39:32

important to me and should be extremely

39:34

important to everyone honestly.

39:36

I want to shed light on it.

39:38

It's a major issue in the United States. And

39:40

around the world, and that is sex trafficking. Yes.

39:43

Sexual trafficking for those not aware is

39:45

a form of human 'The, which

39:48

involves reproductive slavery

39:50

or commercial sexual exploitation

39:52

and is despicable. It also

39:54

includes the transportation of persons

39:56

by means of coercion, deception, and

40:00

or force into exploitive

40:02

and slavery like conditions. It's

40:04

commonly associated with organized crime

40:07

as

40:07

well.

40:07

despicable. It has been

40:09

estimated that two thirds of

40:12

trafficking victims in the

40:14

United States are US

40:16

citizens. Most

40:18

victims who are born outside of the

40:20

United States do come into the United

40:22

States legally on various visas.

40:24

But many times once the women are brought in with a visa, it's taken from

40:27

them and they're forced into sex work.

40:29

The state department estimates

40:31

that between fifteen thousand

40:35

and fifty thousand women and

40:37

girls are trafficked each year in

40:39

the United States. So

40:42

Insane is so angry. I want like I said, I

40:44

like I like to shed light on we,

40:46

you know, we both do. We like to shed light on

40:48

social issues that are a major problem that

40:51

do you need more attention and do you

40:53

need to be discussed? And with this being said, if

40:56

this is ever a situation that

40:58

you are in, does it these

41:01

are just red flags to look

41:03

out for. If you

41:05

see someone and you believe that they

41:07

might be in a position where

41:09

they are being. Sexually

41:12

trafficked. And these are just kind of different things

41:14

that, you know, you can see and kind

41:16

of be like, okay, this is an

41:18

issue. You know, this

41:20

yes. What I'm thinking could

41:22

be true. If the person seems overly fearful,

41:24

submissive, tense, or 'The. If

41:28

the person is deferring to another before

41:30

giving any information. If the

41:32

person has physical injuries or

41:34

branding such as name attached 'The

41:37

on their face or chest,

41:40

tattoos about money or

41:42

sex, or any

41:43

inappropriate, you know, phrases. That's not

41:45

just to say that it's combined with a lot of other things as well,

41:47

just to say. Clothing is inappropriately

41:50

sexual

41:50

or inappropriate for the weather.

41:54

I didn't think about that, but inappropriate for the weather. Mhmm.

41:56

That's that's a really sticks

41:58

blending their body. Yeah. That that 1II

42:01

didn't ever think of, but

42:04

that's Yes. It's

42:05

only five degrees outside, and they're and they're

42:07

still wearing basically nothing.

42:10

Nothing. Yeah.

42:11

If a 'The is unaccompanied at night

42:14

or falters in giving any

42:16

explanation of who they are with and what they are

42:18

doing, that's a possibility

42:20

as well. If their identification documents held

42:22

by another person. If

42:24

the person works long or excessive

42:26

hours or is always available,

42:30

on demand. If they were overly sexual for their age

42:33

or the situation, if they have if

42:35

they have multiple phones or multiple

42:37

social media accounts

42:40

across different platforms. That's also kind of like a a red

42:43

flag. Signs of unusual wealth

42:45

without explanation, you

42:48

drew issues phones without any known forms of income.

42:50

That can also be

42:52

a way of doing that.

42:54

And if a person lives

42:58

in a quote massage business --

42:59

Mhmm. -- or if they are

43:02

not

43:02

free to come and go as they 'The.

43:06

And typically, it's not a quote massage business. Typically, the

43:08

way they get around it is they just call it

43:10

a spa. You cannot say massage, which

43:14

I learned this from the Jensen and Kohl's podcast

43:17

murder 'The. And something else

43:19

that I'm about to bring up was also something that

43:21

I I read with 'The. But 'The

43:29

they say massage

43:32

in the name. You legally have to have

43:34

a massage therapist 'The. Okay.

43:36

And so they have to

43:39

have it. Mhmm. If the

43:42

word spa is specifically

43:44

the only thing in --

43:46

'The. -- that is how it can can be,

43:48

you know You can work around this.

43:50

So so, anyways, just to be just

43:52

to be on the lookout of

43:53

that, there

43:55

was a shooting

43:58

in the last year that

44:00

was in Georgia that targeted several places

44:02

such as that, that it

44:06

was assumed I

44:08

I don't know for sure if it was said,

44:10

but it was assumed that it was kind

44:12

of an operation similar to that. So if you

44:14

believe you have seen or know anyone involved, call the

44:17

National Human TRAFFICKING 'The at

44:19

18883737888,

44:24

or you can text

44:26

the word help or

44:30

To 233722.

44:34

However, if you believe that the person or

44:36

persons are

44:38

in immediate danger, you need to immediately call nine eleven and let them know of the

44:40

situation 'The it is very

44:42

easy for someone who is trafficking

44:44

someone else to take them

44:46

and they will not be recognized

44:48

again. They can change their hair color. They

44:50

can do a lot of different things.

44:52

It's very you know, they

44:54

can get them to another

44:55

location very, very quickly. And you can lose who they

44:57

are. I mean, you know, it's it's it's just

44:59

something else. Color this is something if

45:01

you travel

45:02

a lot, this is something

45:04

that

45:04

everybody needs to do

45:08

right now. Like, right now. There is an

45:10

app

45:11

on I

45:13

think it's pretty much in every app

45:15

store now, but it's called traffic,

45:19

like, traffic spelled normally with

45:21

a k at the end, and

45:23

then Cam, CAM.

45:25

So it's called traffic cam. 'The

45:28

the description that was actually on

45:30

the app set it best.

45:32

So I'm just gonna

45:34

read what it Traffic cam

45:36

enables you to help combat sex trafficking by

45:39

uploading photos of hotel rooms

45:41

you stay in when

45:44

you travel. Traffickers regularly post photographs of their victims

45:46

posed in hotel rooms for online

45:48

advertisement. These photographs are

45:50

evidence that can

45:52

be used to find and

45:54

prosecute the perpetrators of

45:56

these crimes. In order to

45:58

use these photos, however,

46:00

investigators must be able

46:02

to determine where the photos were taken. The

46:04

purpose of traffic cam is to create a

46:06

database of hotel room

46:08

images that an

46:10

investigator can efficiently

46:12

search in order to find

46:14

other images that were taken in

46:17

the same location or an image

46:19

that is a part of an

46:21

investigation. Which I never thought of. Mhmm.

46:23

But it's this app and you literally all you do is

46:25

you go in your hotel room, you have to do it in the

46:27

app. You just go in your hotel room, and you do,

46:29

like, one what your hotel room looks

46:32

like. And then it asks you, you know, what

46:34

hotel this is, and so you put in what

46:36

hotel it is. And that

46:38

information is uploaded to a database

46:40

just to say, like, this is this hotel room,

46:42

this is what this looks like. And then they I think they

46:44

have somebody who kinda like catalogs it

46:46

and breaks sit down and it's, like,

46:48

what's in the room, what looks because, you know, someone say, like, that's a very specific

46:52

wallpaper. Right? What

46:54

hotel would that have been at? What city are we in? Okay. Well,

46:56

we know there's only one of these hotels in this

46:58

city, so this person had to have been here. So

47:00

we need to go so they

47:03

and they've actually been pretty successful and and

47:05

it's been very helpful for a

47:07

lot of for a lot of investigations. So if

47:09

you are someone who does travel a lot, please download

47:12

that app. And go in there. And

47:14

all you do is just go in your hotel 'The, you do

47:16

a quick little picture

47:18

photo sweep of the room,

47:20

upload it, and you're done. Like, that's all you have

47:22

to do. And you could I mean,

47:24

it truly could save someone's

47:25

life. So 'The awesome to be a part of that?

47:28

I mean,

47:30

And at the

47:31

same time, how sad it is that we have to have something like

47:33

that. Oh, you know, it 'The it's

47:35

it's despicable. I mean,

47:38

I can't say that enough. There's not a word --

47:39

No. -- strong

47:41

-- Exactly. -- too. -- but I

47:43

could adequately describe how I feel about it. I

47:45

just

47:45

exactly. It

47:47

it's like It's slavery. It is slavery. Oh, it is. And

47:50

it's it's

47:50

I just I

47:51

don't understand. It is fresh

47:55

it's frustrating. It's angering it

47:58

is for a lot of people who don't know,

48:00

you know, y'all do know that we are in Alabama and

48:02

there's an interstate

48:04

that goes from Birmingham to Atlanta. It's called I

48:06

twenty. And it is known as one of

48:08

the 1836 heavily

48:12

used used

48:14

ways to get someone because Atlanta has an international

48:16

airport. It's the easiest way to

48:18

get someone out of the country. So I twenty, they

48:20

say for a lot of like

48:23

'The there, like, be safe, if you

48:25

stop anywhere. Just be aware, like, keep your

48:27

head on this 'The, men

48:29

'The. 'The and

48:32

and you know, anyone can be sex trafficked if they are,

48:34

you know, vulnerable

48:36

enough. So it's not just women even

48:38

though it is women more likely.

48:41

Mhmm. Yeah. Primarily. But but, you know, we do

48:44

understand men and boys can

48:46

also have that happen to them as well. So

48:48

it's just to

48:50

say, like, keep your head on a

48:52

syllable. Make sure, you know, just be aware of your surroundings. I

48:55

'The, but had

48:57

to just throw that in there. We haven't come

48:59

across anything kind of close to that. And

49:02

typically, like we did in our episode where

49:04

we discussed suicide, and I put all the

49:06

information in there. Am gonna put all of

49:08

this information in the show notes. So like

49:10

I said, just scroll up in the information, the

49:12

telephone number, the text message

49:14

number, and the name of the app will be

49:16

in the show notes. So if if you see anything

49:18

anything like that, you know, one of the best

49:20

things that I've heard is if you see something,

49:22

say something. 'The

49:24

better to be safe than sorry.

49:26

You count me all wild,

49:27

definitely angry. So 1836 you see something,

49:29

say something. But

49:32

Our case today revolves around

49:34

Helen who was actually born,

49:38

dorkus Doyle.

49:41

Dorkus is actually a viable character.

49:44

Dorkus. But

49:44

bless it. And it's yeah. We had two

49:46

groups. And on one of my mission trips,

49:50

It was dorkus in

49:51

Dora, and I was in DoraCus, and I was like, so we're all

49:53

dorks. Okay. Thanks. DoraCus. Mhmm. She was

49:56

born in

49:58

Temple 'The. Her family was in the

50:00

working class and her dad was

50:02

allegedly a raging

50:03

alcoholic. Ugh. Her

50:05

mother died when she was young and at

50:07

the age of twelve when her father remarried, she was

50:09

sent out to service, not in the way that you're

50:11

thinking. Yeah. But in in other

50:13

words, I'm the new woman of the house, and I'm

50:15

gonna need you to -- Yeah.

50:18

-- get out. So she was sent

50:20

as a servant to the home of one of the chief justices of the 1836

50:23

supreme judicial court.

50:26

All of this, of course, with an agreement that she could leave when

50:28

she was eighteen. Supposedly, the family

50:31

she went to serve raised her as

50:33

more of a child

50:35

than you know, as a

50:38

servant.

50:38

However -- Yeah. --

50:41

it's also alleged that the

50:43

judge, he was serving slept with her at the age of

50:45

sixteen or seventeen. Nice. The

50:48

details of this deduction are not

50:50

clear,

50:51

but the act appeared

50:54

to be consensual. When

50:58

the story became public, the judge

51:00

had to do something.

51:01

And though She

51:03

was only seventeen. She was set

51:04

free, and they said she was eighteen

51:07

to end her service so

51:09

she could leave. Bye. This

51:14

freed the judge from having to take any

51:17

action against anything, and it allowed

51:19

her to go away on own. So Helen

51:21

immediately took off and moved Portland. I'm calling her Helen

51:23

because everywhere calls her Helen -- Mhmm.

51:25

-- like, even though

51:28

That was not her birth name. Everywhere calls her Helen,

51:30

and it's just much easier for

51:31

me. And that's what she preferred to

51:33

be 'The, apparently.

51:36

'The not?

51:37

She's Both. Both.

51:40

Okay. Pito?

51:42

Yeah. Helen Hewitt is

51:44

the name she went by when she got to

51:46

New York City and she started working

51:49

for Rosina Townsend. At an upscale brothel. Oh, this

51:51

is where just kidding. I skipped one. She made

51:53

her way to Boston and then ended in New

51:56

York, and that's why I said her name

51:58

changed in

52:00

each City -- Oh. -- which is why I mentioned that that was her birth

52:02

name. And then by the time she got to New

52:04

York City, her name was Helen Hewitt.

52:06

'The she

52:09

was changing it every time she moved. Oh, so unsure

52:11

of why, but she

52:14

did. Well, she didn't like the first 'The, so

52:16

she changed shit. I mean, you

52:18

know, laugh on the run. I mean,

52:20

I'd probably change mine if there were that too. But

52:22

anyways,

52:22

I mean

52:23

So she started working for Rosina

52:25

Townsend and an upscale broth

52:27

It said that she was more

52:29

of a curtissen

52:31

than a common sex worker. So

52:34

she was more of like an

52:36

escort. Okay.

52:36

Which she was a fun time girl. I mean anyways, her

52:40

clients included

52:41

successful lawyers, merchants,

52:44

and politicians who

52:46

view their relationships with her almost as

52:48

romances, with rendezvous and

52:51

exchanges of gifts and

52:54

letters. But her favorite client was a

52:56

man who went by the name of Frank Rivers.

52:58

'The, of course, wasn't

53:02

his name. 'The, but

53:04

Helen called him pretty frank due

53:06

to his strikingly good looks. His

53:10

name was actually Richard

53:12

P Robinson. 1836 he was an

53:14

eighteen year old clerk at a

53:16

local dry goods store. The

53:18

two started corresponding even

53:20

when he wasn't there

53:22

for services. But Richard

53:24

hated her profession and soon Helen

53:26

began to threaten to humiliate

53:28

him by telling others that he had been

53:30

seeing

53:30

her. Three days before the murder, Helen sent him a letter trying

53:32

to reconcile. However,

53:34

she closed the

53:37

letter by saying quote, You

53:40

have known how I loved. Do not.

53:44

Oh, do not provoke

53:46

the experiment of seeing

53:49

how I can hate.

53:51

Oh. I

53:53

mean, girl. She just threw

53:55

that Nolan down.

53:58

Do not provoke

53:59

the experiment of seeing

54:02

how I can hate. She said

54:04

'The am

54:04

not the one. Is, like,

54:06

that's a line right

54:09

there. I'm playing. That is I

54:11

said what I said and I said what I

54:13

said. So don't ask what I said. 'The

54:15

mean That is She's

54:19

'The me. However,

54:20

Richard was a bit

54:23

brave. And he responded in his letter

54:25

saying, quote, you are never

54:27

so foolish as when you threaten

54:29

me. Keep quiet until I come

54:31

on Saturday night. And then

54:34

we will see if we cannot be better

54:36

friends here

54:38

after.

54:39

He said that

54:41

In the early mornings of Sunday, April tenth

54:43

eighteen thirty six, Rosina Townsend.

54:46

As I said before, she was the

54:48

brothel

54:48

owner. Was awoken by someone banging on her door.

54:50

Through the door, she

54:51

heard a man's voice asking to be let out of the

54:54

front door because it

54:56

was locked. This is

54:58

all 'The. It all ties

55:00

back. So,

55:04

Rosina yell back, get your

55:06

woman to let you out.

55:08

Mhmm. There were nine women who lived in

55:10

the house 'The one of the house

55:12

rules that was that

55:14

after midnight, the front door would be

55:16

locked. And this lock

55:18

was a lock from the inside and outside,

55:20

so you had to have a key to

55:22

get out Gotcha. And everybody

55:24

that lived there had a key? No. There

55:26

was only one key. Oh. So

55:30

So like I said, the rule was that if

55:33

anybody needed to get out, then they would need to

55:35

be escorted to the door specifically.

55:39

It wasn't uncommon for some men to spend

55:41

the night, but if they ever decided

55:43

to leave, they wouldn't ever

55:46

need Rosina

55:48

because one of the women would let them out. Right? So

55:50

they wouldn't go home to wake her up.

55:52

This was odd because

55:54

after the banging on her door,

55:58

none of the women living there ever slipped into Rosina's

56:00

room to get the key.

56:06

So Rosina fell back

56:08

asleep and she was

56:10

entertaining a male visitor of her

56:12

own who apparently never awoke to any of

56:14

the commotion. Alright.

56:16

She was woken just like a man. I mean, you

56:18

know, she was woken again around three

56:21

AM. Alright. To someone

56:23

knocking on the outside the

56:25

main door, so the front

56:26

door. Insinuating that it's still locked.

56:30

Right.

56:31

K. It was a regular customer who was

56:34

serviced by Elizabeth Salters.

56:36

Rosina let the man in and

56:39

he slinked upstairs to Elizabeth's room and

56:42

Rosina's lantern no longer saw

56:44

him. But as

56:45

all of

56:47

this occurred, She noticed something wasn't quite right. There was a

56:50

globe lantern sitting on a

56:52

marble topped table

56:54

in the parlor and it was

56:58

lit. This was odd because the lantern had

57:00

a twin and they

57:02

both belonged to another

57:04

room on the second floor.

57:08

She walked towards the lane and saw the door to the garden slightly

57:10

opened. The back garden

57:12

had a continuous fence

57:16

around it. That was around eight to twelve

57:18

feet high. Just a little

57:20

thin. Rosina also

57:22

had picket installed

57:24

at the top to avoid any intruders. A

57:26

few years earlier, Rosina had three

57:28

men climb over the fence and barge

57:30

into the house yelling at everyone. Looking

57:33

to start a fight. So

57:36

she put

57:36

that up there to ensure that no one would

57:38

come over them. Right.

57:40

But no one was

57:41

out in the

57:43

garden. She went to

57:44

her room again and sat down, but she grew

57:46

concerned about the lantern. So

57:48

she

57:48

went back to the door, she shut,

57:50

and 'The it, before she headed upstairs to the

57:53

second floor. She checked Maria

57:55

Stevens. It

57:58

was locked. AS IT SHOULD HAVE

58:00

BEEN, MARIA HAD AN OVERNIGHT GUESS AND

58:02

ALWAYS LOCKED HER DOOR IN THESE

58:04

INSTANCES AND HER DOOR SHOULD

58:06

BE LOCKED. Bruzzino

58:08

went

58:08

to the back bedroom on the other side and

58:10

checked the door. It was

58:13

unlocked. She pushed the door

58:15

open and smoke came pouring out of the room.

58:17

Uh-oh. She ran to Caroline Stewart's room, which was

58:20

on the front corner of the house and

58:22

yelled fire.

58:24

Needless to say it wasn't long until the entire house was

58:26

awake. Help arrived. And in

58:28

the meantime, Caroline and Rosina ran

58:30

into Helen's room to try and

58:33

her her guest. But what

58:36

they saw sent them running

58:38

back out

58:40

in horror. She did.

58:42

Yeah. But

58:43

it gets worse

58:44

out here. The bed was

58:47

smoldering from the fire. And

58:50

Helen was dead. Her

58:53

green dress had

58:55

burned off of

58:58

her and half of her body was charred to

59:00

the point that it did not resemble

59:03

skin. Oh, yeah. There were

59:06

three gash marks on her head

59:08

and the bed was reduced to a

59:10

pool of blood beneath

59:12

her. It was clear that Helen

59:14

was murdered in her companion

59:16

who joined her that night

59:18

was nowhere to be

59:20

found. No. Once the authorities were

59:22

there and they were putting out

59:24

the fire, One noticed a handkerchief under Helen's pillow with a

59:26

man's name on it and he put it in his

59:28

pocket. The police checked

59:30

the backyard. Which

59:32

seemed the likely escape route since

59:34

the front door was locked. Nearby

59:37

the fence was

59:40

a hatchet. And on the other side, lay a long

59:42

cloak. The coroner's inquest

59:44

was made and it was discovered that the murder

59:46

likely happened after midnight. Helen

59:49

had been struck three times on the

59:52

head, likely with a

59:54

hatchet. And

59:56

based on the position of her body in the

59:58

bench, she was not expecting it. No signs of a struggle

1:00:00

were noted, and when Helen had been knocked out,

1:00:02

the murder set the mattress on fire

1:00:06

and left. Police

1:00:08

questioned Rosina Townsend. She recounted

1:00:10

the previous night's events. Helen

1:00:12

had asked her not to

1:00:15

admit one of the men who was a Saturday regular, that another

1:00:17

client would visit her instead.

1:00:19

When the man arrived, he

1:00:21

covered his face. With

1:00:25

a cloak. Oh, the cloak that was found outside.

1:00:27

But Rosina recognized him as one of

1:00:29

Helen's longtime clients.

1:00:33

Richard P. Robinson.

1:00:36

Earlier that morning, police found

1:00:38

Richard asleep in his home. They arrested

1:00:40

him and rushed him to the scene. Which

1:00:43

was common at this time. Right. Officers were, quote, amazed

1:00:45

to note his composure

1:00:48

and impressivity. Upon

1:00:50

his viewing of Helen's body, later

1:00:52

on Richard said to a neighbor, quote,

1:00:54

do you think I would blast my

1:00:58

brilliant prospects by so ridiculous and

1:00:59

act? I have a young man of

1:01:00

only nineteen years of age as of

1:01:03

yesterday with most brilliant

1:01:06

prospects. 1836, So

1:01:09

remember how this is one of the first

1:01:10

sex scandals to receive detailed press

1:01:12

reporting? Oh dear.

1:01:15

Well, This is

1:01:18

the type of reporting that came to be known

1:01:20

as sensational journalism.

1:01:22

Mhmm. The Penny Press had

1:01:25

just started in the murder of Helen made for great entertainment for people to buy

1:01:27

a paper to follow along. Reporters

1:01:30

noted the

1:01:32

scraps of green dress that Helen had on her body as she was

1:01:34

brought out, and this is how she received her

1:01:36

nickname as the girl in green.

1:01:41

Any and all tiny bit of information

1:01:43

regarding Helen Richard or the murder was

1:01:45

published and often the

1:01:48

information wasn't

1:01:50

very reliable. Yeah. As competing newspapers were trying

1:01:52

to get their news out first

1:01:54

for more

1:01:56

salacious sales. Moreover,

1:01:58

the reporters were picking

1:02:01

sides. They were either sympathizing

1:02:03

with Helen and

1:02:05

hating Richard, or they were attacking Helen as a seductress who

1:02:08

deserved her fate. K?

1:02:10

The New York Herald, which

1:02:13

we discussed last week, which was edited by

1:02:15

James Gordon Bennett Senior,

1:02:18

provided the most complete

1:02:20

coverage of the sensational 'The. Even

1:02:24

though it was extremely biased.

1:02:26

Almost from the beginning

1:02:28

and throughout the trial,

1:02:30

Bennett insists did that Richard was the innocent

1:02:33

victim of a vicious conspiracy

1:02:36

launched by the

1:02:38

police, and Helena's madam

1:02:40

Rosina Townsend. He

1:02:42

also emphasized the sensational nature

1:02:44

of the story and worked to exploit

1:02:47

the

1:02:47

sexual, violent details of Helen's

1:02:50

death. Then remember

1:02:52

I told you the New York

1:02:53

sun would come back.

1:02:55

'The the New York sun's readers tend

1:02:57

to come from a working class. Mhmm.

1:03:00

So they argued that Richard

1:03:02

was guilty and that he was

1:03:04

able to use money in the influence of

1:03:06

wealthy relatives and his employer to buy

1:03:08

himself in a quiddle.

1:03:10

This theory continued to gain traction

1:03:12

for many years after

1:03:14

many years. Some

1:03:16

historians even credited Bennett

1:03:18

with the first journalistic interview

1:03:21

which was of Rosina Townsend. Other

1:03:24

historians argue that Bennett

1:03:26

never actually talked to Rosina at

1:03:28

all and that his reported

1:03:30

interview with Rosanna was all

1:03:32

a hoax. Oh. This

1:03:35

case became National News

1:03:37

and for the first Time,

1:03:39

reporters from other cities came to

1:03:41

cover a New York

1:03:43

City murder trial. Most

1:03:46

notably, the trial was largely responsible for

1:03:48

these changes in approach to sex

1:03:51

and scandal coverage by American

1:03:54

journalist nationwide. Prior to

1:03:56

this case, the coverage of

1:03:58

these topics by major

1:04:00

newspapers was

1:04:02

practically nonexistent. 1836 movement

1:04:04

started in the city with

1:04:07

young men who sympathized

1:04:10

with Richard. Anyways

1:04:14

-- sympathized with him. -- they said

1:04:16

that men should not be subject to

1:04:18

threats from sex workers. They spreads

1:04:20

their support by wearing black cloaks

1:04:23

similar to the one worn

1:04:25

by Richard. I just put in

1:04:27

parentheses real classy guys.

1:04:30

In protest of their

1:04:34

protest, the

1:04:36

women 'The to

1:04:38

see Helen's killer punished

1:04:41

war oh, dear. I

1:04:43

forgot this word was in here. They

1:04:48

wore white

1:04:52

beaver caps trimmed

1:04:59

with black cream. Totally forgot that

1:05:01

word is in here.

1:05:04

I wonder if you have any muff

1:05:07

'The wonder

1:05:07

how many grown ups for the half. I'm

1:05:10

wondering I'm wondering if this white

1:05:12

beaver fur came from a

1:05:14

bipedal

1:05:15

tailless beaver. Because we could

1:05:18

be on to something of what happened to our

1:05:20

friend. I just wanna know if they had

1:05:21

matching muffs. That's all

1:05:22

I wanna know. You know they

1:05:24

1836. You know

1:05:27

what they did? See

1:05:34

episode one, guys, if you don't know

1:05:36

in more than one way. Moving on.

1:05:43

Gosh. The trial began

1:05:46

on June second of eighteen thirty

1:05:48

six. And evidence against

1:05:50

Richard was circumstantial and

1:05:53

had the easy ability to be countered by the

1:05:55

defense. Okay.

1:05:56

So, wait,

1:05:58

they wore black

1:06:02

Before the trial?

1:06:03

Yeah. I wore black capes in support

1:06:06

of Richard -- Yes. --

1:06:08

saying that that they

1:06:10

should not be privy to the

1:06:12

threats of sex

1:06:12

workers. Mhmm. In support of Richard?

1:06:14

Yes. Of Richard. Yeah. 'The

1:06:18

he wore. Yes, before the trial,

1:06:19

allegedly. Okay. Continue. Yes.

1:06:23

And I'm

1:06:24

just throwing that out there. Gosh.

1:06:28

And

1:06:28

the women wore white beaver hats

1:06:31

'The matching muffs for the

1:06:34

woman who was a

1:06:35

high

1:06:36

paid escort. I mean, this I I

1:06:38

can't. Anyways So,

1:06:43

like I said, All the

1:06:45

evidence was circumstantial and had the easy

1:06:48

ability to be countered by the defense. The

1:06:50

prosecution was not

1:06:52

allowed to enter Richard's diary into

1:06:55

evidence. But they were

1:06:57

only allowed one

1:07:00

letter from the volume of

1:07:02

incriminating correspondence between Richard

1:07:04

and Helen. That's crap. That's

1:07:06

crap. After days of

1:07:08

testimony from several 'The, including

1:07:10

Rosina Townsend,

1:07:13

the judge gave the

1:07:16

jury their instructions.

1:07:19

Were they as most of them were

1:07:22

the not guilty verdict because I like the guy, as

1:07:23

most of the

1:07:25

witnesses were other sex

1:07:28

workers, The

1:07:29

judge ordered the jury

1:07:32

to disregard their testimony

1:07:35

because they

1:07:37

were on trustworthy because they

1:07:39

were -- Yep. --

1:07:42

non non what?

1:07:45

They were classless citizen. In his

1:07:47

yes. Yeah. Uh-huh. And I put in parentheses. People

1:07:50

are garbage.

1:07:54

You know? The jury deliberated for a mere thirty

1:07:58

minutes, thirty

1:08:00

three zero. Richard

1:08:02

Robinson received a verdict of Not

1:08:05

guilty. You guessed

1:08:06

it. Richard's supporters

1:08:10

could be

1:08:12

heard cheering outside of the courtroom

1:08:14

when the verdict was read. Interestingly,

1:08:16

after leaving

1:08:20

the courtroom, A friend

1:08:22

of Richards was seen giving an to one

1:08:27

of the jurors. Jurty.

1:08:29

I found Well,

1:08:31

whether or not Richard killed

1:08:33

Helen is still

1:08:35

not completely known. 'The most

1:08:39

'The speculate, of course, that he 'The

1:08:41

just saying by law. Although most people

1:08:43

speculate, of course, that he did.

1:08:45

The personal letters between Helen and Richard became public

1:08:47

after the trial.

1:08:49

Mhmm. And

1:08:52

they under cut

1:08:54

some of his claims and showed him to be capable of vicious and

1:08:59

deviant. Sexual behavior. Shocking.

1:09:02

The public turned against him, including some who

1:09:05

had been

1:09:08

his supporters cheering for him

1:09:10

on the day of

1:09:13

his verdict. Weirdly. Weirdly enough.

1:09:15

Right after the trial,

1:09:18

He moved

1:09:20

to

1:09:20

Texas. What? He left

1:09:23

town. Two years

1:09:24

after the

1:09:26

murder. He died of

1:09:28

a fever. Oh, was

1:09:30

it related to the day?

1:09:33

I

1:09:34

don't think so. Mhmm. Just me. around

1:09:37

him

1:09:40

when he died, said that on

1:09:42

his deathbed, he only

1:09:47

kept repeating one thing.

1:09:50

I did it.

1:09:50

I'm a crook. It was her name, Helen

1:09:55

Hewitt. Mhmm. And that is the

1:09:57

story of the girl in green. AKA

1:10:00

Helen

1:10:01

Green', who never

1:10:03

received any justice.

1:10:05

And the man who killed

1:10:07

her. Oh, gosh. That was a low down, riding down, dirty, 'The

1:10:13

mean, what

1:10:14

else can we say? I I mean, I could

1:10:15

say a few things, but With

1:10:17

'The. I

1:10:20

mean, anyways.

1:10:24

So that ain't cool. You're not

1:10:26

gonna find a bipedal tailless

1:10:28

beaver on our website,

1:10:30

but she could. Not that kind. And

1:10:34

it's my

1:10:39

drag name. Anyhow. That

1:10:42

that would caught me by surprise. I mean,

1:10:44

you know what?

1:10:47

Don't Google that.

1:10:49

We do not. When

1:10:51

we when we do have merch, we're gonna have to. I know. We're gonna have mups. I 'The. I

1:10:54

have to. Oh, gosh.

1:10:58

Please let it be

1:11:00

a shirt that just says I love a

1:11:02

good 'The. And then it's a photo

1:11:04

of of, like, an

1:11:07

actual hand warmer muff. Or sweatshirts.

1:11:09

Oh, and and they and your hands go Yaga

1:11:11

rip off

1:11:11

it. Yes.

1:11:16

Yep. Yes.

1:11:16

We got it.

1:11:18

Alright. So the brainstorming session No one.

1:11:20

No

1:11:21

bipedal tailless beavers

1:11:23

on our website. But you

1:11:26

can go find it at one nation

1:11:28

under crime dot com. Do not Google, tailless,

1:11:30

bipedal beaver. I don't know what you'll

1:11:32

find. So we are one

1:11:34

nation under

1:11:35

crime, anywhere and everywhere. Just go find us. I give up. Thank you.

1:11:37

And that's just keep cropping

1:11:39

up on us.

1:11:42

Oh, that was bad. That was bad. Alright.

1:11:44

We we gotta go. Edit

1:11:46

it now. That was insane. Leak.

1:11:50

Gonna leave us a five star

1:11:52

view and drop something in about a

1:11:54

beaver or a month to be like,

1:11:57

don't. We've had enough If

1:11:59

you I if you care to. up to you. No. So

1:12:05

Thank you guys. Take your time,

1:12:07

Tracy. You're listening to this week's episode of One Nation 'The

1:12:12

Crime. We're sorry.

1:12:14

We will see you here. Same time. Different

1:12:20

time. Different 'The

1:12:22

next week. We're gonna go