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the disappearance of ala

4:17

brim in mid december

4:19

two thousand twenty month

4:21

old ala disappeared from

4:24

city of waterville me where

4:26

she was staying with her father imma

4:29

was last seen by her family when she

4:31

was put to bed the next morning

4:34

the toddler was gone the search

4:36

for ala became the largest criminal

4:38

investigation and maine has really

4:41

gives it wasn't long after

4:43

she disappeared that the focus

4:46

turn to her fall

4:47

why wouldn't he was last person said to

4:50

have seen a lot

4:52

but there was nothing initially

4:54

directly linking him to her disappear

4:57

and there's more time taxed

4:59

any momentum the investigation

5:02

had seen to lose traction

5:04

it was mother initiated legal

5:07

proceedings against the missing girls

5:09

father's claiming that he caused

5:11

ales that the even this

5:13

failed to elicit any further

5:15

information from the father leading

5:18

to his child's whereabouts the

5:20

remains missing to this day that's

5:22

why the authorities formal announcement

5:25

did she has died her mother

5:27

hope the one day she can find out what

5:29

happened to her daughter in that

5:31

the person or persons responsible

5:33

will be brought to justice

5:35

this is lot for this to be the largest criminal

5:38

investigation the me the i think

5:40

any time you do a case

5:43

then it turns out that it

5:45

was the biggest investigation in that

5:47

state obviously

5:49

it's is it's a big case that

5:51

means not huge state by

5:54

the you also have to factor in

5:57

that this was a twenty months

5:59

the china okay

6:01

everybody is going

6:04

to comment

6:05

right police are going to put all

6:08

their efforts into finding

6:11

this palmer because though

6:14

in some cases that we do gives we're

6:16

talking about someone

6:18

with say sixteen seventeen

6:21

or even eighteen or older

6:23

were please or ten on the firm's

6:26

did they your runaway

6:28

did they leave voluntarily

6:30

or did something bad happened to

6:32

the

6:33

when you're dealing with as twenty month

6:36

old child that factors

6:38

taken out the equation the

6:40

twenty month old child doesn't

6:42

say hates i'm going to run away

6:45

as just not how work so you

6:47

have to i think start

6:49

with the supposition

6:52

that something bad you

6:56

about reynolds was born on april

6:58

fourth two thousand and ten to

7:00

her parents trista reynolds and

7:02

justin dipietro the

7:04

interested became pregnant it was

7:07

a surprise for the cat it

7:09

was reported that just and wanted

7:11

to put the baby up for adoption

7:13

after it was born but trista

7:15

refuse the time of ales

7:17

birth the parents' relationship

7:20

had broken down in trista

7:22

lived in portland maine first

7:24

there was a lowes primary caregiver

7:27

but i knew that it was important

7:29

for her daughter the have time with justin

7:31

first the notice that when ala returned

7:33

from spending time with her father she

7:36

sometimes had bumps and bruises which

7:39

justin explained away by saying

7:41

a what had accidentally injured herself

7:44

the kids tend to do and

7:47

that is a true state any one

7:49

it's had a you know a small child

7:52

crawling around learning

7:54

to walk there are falls

7:56

there are you know falling

7:59

into table

8:00

the you get brom timbers yeah

8:02

unless you're gonna some type

8:04

of home suit

8:07

on them right yeah it is

8:09

bound to happen i mean you can go through the whole

8:12

brigham a role of

8:14

you're putting foam around the edges

8:16

of the table you can do all

8:18

that it's not gonna stop

8:20

kids from

8:22

falling down and and getting bumps

8:24

and bruises now i'm not saying that's what

8:26

happened in the scale under saying that it does

8:28

happen

8:29

in april two thousand and eleven

8:32

truth the gave birth to a baby boy though

8:35

first was doing your best riders single

8:37

mom the

8:39

had some difficulties see

8:41

struggled with addiction though

8:44

wanting to do the best thing for herself

8:46

and children

8:47

the voluntarily entered rehab

8:49

for a ten day stay in

8:51

october two thousand here's

8:54

the arranged for ala to go stay

8:56

with krista sister but

8:58

she later told through friday or the

9:01

johnson and his mother phoebe had

9:03

manipulated a department of health

9:05

and human services case worker into

9:08

placing ala with them instead

9:11

while first i was receiving three though

9:14

in october two thousand eleven the main

9:16

department of human services decided

9:19

place ala with her father and his

9:21

home on violet avenue

9:23

as temporary custody mess his

9:26

mother phoebe the sister

9:28

lisa and leashes

9:30

baby girl who would

9:32

have been a was cousin also lived

9:35

the home in early december

9:37

ala broke her left off resulting

9:40

in the need for a soft care nothing

9:42

told medical staff that she

9:45

sustained the injury after

9:47

he tripped on some steps in the rain

9:49

and so over while carrying

9:52

his daughter and groceries at same

9:54

time that could happen the

9:56

could they could have i

9:58

think you the is one the things

10:01

that we're going be asking in this

10:03

case what could happen

10:05

versus what really did happen

10:08

those are often very big questions

10:11

they are know in cases

10:13

like this sometimes those what might

10:15

have been something innocent

10:18

son doesn't look so innocent anymore

10:20

or later turns out to actually

10:22

be something sinister exactly

10:25

this has said that after she

10:27

returned home from reader he

10:29

lived with her father but she

10:32

constantly try to make contact

10:34

with just to talk to their dog

10:37

she said that put up a roadblock

10:39

that every turn and first the didn't

10:41

see or speak to a lot after leaving

10:44

reason by december fifteen

10:46

two thousand eleven first

10:48

it was frustrate and she

10:50

filed for sole custody

10:52

avail the night of december

10:55

sixteen you down the web

10:57

and justin put able to bed

10:59

around eight pm according

11:01

to the bangor daily news

11:03

just in later told police his daughter

11:06

was wearing green polka dot one

11:08

z pajamas with

11:10

daddy's princess written across different

11:13

when just woke up the next more the

11:15

daughter was gone the reported

11:18

her missing at eight fifty eight

11:20

telling the nine one one dispatcher

11:23

there's no way she could have crawled

11:25

out of her crib the out

11:27

of house this is parent's worst

11:29

nightmare put your child bed

11:32

the way wake up next morning

11:34

your child's gone where do you even

11:36

start whether you start by calling

11:39

the police which is why justin

11:41

did the main state

11:43

police the main warden service

11:46

and waterville police all got

11:48

to work trying to locate

11:50

a or she disappeared during

11:52

the winter this was december the middle

11:54

of december and if

11:57

she had somehow managed

11:59

to the outside she

12:02

wouldn't have survived for long the

12:04

in bitter temperatures justin

12:06

told investigators that the night before the

12:09

went to bed in his bedroom in the base

12:11

which was on different level of the house

12:14

as a was bedroom queen

12:17

he didn't hear anything unusual during

12:19

the night that would have given

12:21

him cause for concern he

12:23

told police he had no idea where

12:25

ala was but added

12:27

he didn't think that she

12:30

could have wandered out the house

12:32

for one he was sure that she

12:34

had been abducted there was no sign

12:36

forced entry to the home so

12:39

if somebody did break the

12:41

ip you're on the part of police

12:44

they found it hard to believe

12:46

that no one inside

12:49

house would have heard something the

12:51

was reported that your justin's

12:53

house was fairly small wasn't

12:55

a huge house yes

12:57

you would think that if someone came in that

13:00

his mom his sister himself would

13:02

have heard somebody walking around

13:05

go back to you know him

13:07

saying that very unlikely

13:10

that she wandered out house

13:12

why would believe that too

13:14

you wouldn't think that a twenty

13:16

month old baby who

13:19

was sleeping in crib right good

13:23

get out of the crib the

13:25

and then

13:26

get out the house i've seen babies

13:28

crawl over cribs and fallout

13:31

them and and do some things like that

13:33

but then you've gotta make your way to the front

13:35

door the even if the doors

13:37

not law gotta get

13:39

up and turn the handles imho somehow

13:41

so it does seem

13:44

very unlikely to me as

13:46

odd as odd as episode of boss baby know

13:49

no not at all johnson

13:51

suggested to the police that they look

13:53

into trust his whereabouts sad

13:55

day now seated live

13:57

in water i had passed

14:00

through the city on her way from portland

14:03

to messiah sport and eastern

14:05

main

14:06

though trust the went through

14:08

waterville and because of this

14:10

the police questioned her for two hours

14:13

about her missing daughter gives

14:15

had to look this up on the map the

14:18

about three and half hours from

14:20

portland to messiah sports

14:22

but it does look like the route

14:25

at least on the map that i looked

14:27

at the directions the route

14:30

hey chew through water bill

14:32

so it doesn't seem

14:34

to me as though she went out of her way

14:37

to go through waterville it's kind of kind

14:39

of natural path that she

14:41

would have taken at least the

14:44

directions that i looked

14:45

According to the news website, centralmaine.com,

14:48

Waterville Police and firefighters

14:51

took to the air as

14:54

well as on foot to search the neighborhood,

14:56

Detective from Waterville,

14:58

PD and mainstay.

15:01

police searched the the peterborough

15:04

home please drain the

15:06

massa lonski street for

15:08

any trace of ala they didn't

15:10

find anything they also serves the

15:12

woods near this dipietro

15:14

homes and the

15:16

trash bands around the city the

15:19

the doing everything right the

15:20

making every effort they can to try

15:22

to locator what sounds like

15:24

sound like they are but imagine

15:27

as a police officer

15:29

you're diving into trash

15:31

bin looking for this

15:33

girl what's going to your mind

15:36

that you could possibly

15:39

fine yeah the

15:41

dead twenty month old child

15:44

every time you got something up your open the

15:46

you'll see child on read

15:48

trash bag or something i don't know because

15:50

you don't want to find that child in the trash

15:53

it's not going to be good and rose the

15:55

gears we talked about trista

15:58

filing for soccer the

16:00

you know that then had to run

16:03

through the minds of

16:05

the authorities did just

16:07

know about this

16:10

the for a would disappear if

16:12

you did how upset was a break well

16:14

they later found out that he

16:16

didn't about trust his plans

16:19

until after a will disappear

16:22

what they did discover though was that

16:24

while ala was living with just he

16:27

took out a life insurance policy

16:29

on his daughter on december

16:31

nineteen we see vehicles

16:33

belong to just dance and

16:35

his girlfriend courtney rabbits

16:38

seem little

16:39

strange to take out a life insurance policy

16:42

on such young child mean i

16:44

know that the it all stuff

16:46

in mail these idea when

16:48

i had my two kids from one

16:50

of those companies that tried get you

16:52

to take out life insurance on your

16:54

kids but i never did the just can't

16:56

imagine

16:57

needing to do that's why i think

16:59

the only reason that you

17:01

would

17:02

this is probably what most companies

17:05

play up is who

17:07

pay for ariel

17:09

expense we

17:12

don't have any information on how

17:14

much the policy was or

17:16

the reasons for you

17:18

know is it being taken out

17:20

according to cbs news dot com

17:22

on december twentieth justin

17:25

released a

17:26

the red i'd like to thank everyone

17:28

involved for their continued support

17:31

in trying to find our daughter i

17:33

have no idea what happened ala

17:36

or who was responsible

17:38

i will not make accusations or

17:40

insinuations towards anymore until

17:43

the police have been able to prove who's

17:45

responsible for this i have shared

17:47

every piece of information possible

17:50

with the police contrary

17:52

to some statements floating around i

17:54

have communicated with a was mother

17:57

over the last couple of weeks it

17:59

is always been intention to have

18:01

a shared parenting arrangement

18:03

with ales mother and i will continue

18:06

to work towards that when ala

18:08

is returned us my family

18:10

and friends will continue to do everything

18:13

we can to assist in this investigation

18:16

and to get a look back home

18:18

though i think the one thing that

18:20

you can take away from that state the

18:24

obviously gibbs he was very

18:27

hardness

18:28

the fact that there was a

18:30

lotta stuff going around maybe

18:33

some of it put out by

18:36

chris the he had not

18:38

been communicative right

18:40

though he was trying to address that

18:42

and he was saying no that's not

18:45

true whether is not that's

18:47

different story on december twenty

18:49

first around one hundred people attended

18:51

a candlelight vigil for ala

18:54

and local church the next

18:56

day according to cbs

18:58

boston police cadaver dogs

19:00

searched and area in the woods near

19:03

the local airports they place

19:05

crime scene tape around the dipietro

19:07

home feeling it off

19:09

to be searched the twenty

19:11

six police announced

19:14

they felt ala had been taken

19:16

from the dipietro home this

19:18

was the first time the they

19:21

publicly said they didn't believe

19:23

she left the house have her

19:25

own accord maybe gibbs

19:27

it's been such a long time since

19:29

my kids were that little my

19:31

natural saw that

19:35

twenty month old just wouldn't

19:37

leave the house or be able to leave

19:40

their house on on their own

19:42

i could be wrong about that and mean the

19:45

there's obviously have a reason why the police

19:47

felt that she could have done

19:50

maybe i'm just for getting what a

19:52

twenty month old son sexually

19:55

they do on their own yeah mean

19:57

it's are for me recall mean i

19:59

just remember when the twenty my board

20:01

heck i was in sixth grade that point yeah

20:04

we i knew were on the a gymnastics

20:06

team so that doesn't really

20:09

help us know in this regard

20:12

the

20:12

police announced a thirty thousand dollar

20:14

reward for information leading

20:16

to ala return the next day

20:19

then you would think gibbs that such

20:21

a the reward being

20:24

offered early on in

20:27

case would yield some valuable

20:29

information in that is a large amount yeah

20:32

based on other

20:33

as we covered in the united states

20:35

and united states exactly that large

20:37

amount

20:38

in australia which we would say

20:40

wow that's that's pretty low a

20:42

we will have compared to many of

20:44

the rewards that we've talked

20:46

about an australian cases and

20:49

it did result in

20:51

about twelve hundred tips coming

20:53

in unfortunately as

20:55

we often see with rewards

20:58

the majority of the tips didn't

21:01

really lead any saying it

21:03

was reported in a number of outlets

21:05

that many of these tips

21:07

came in from mediums and

21:09

clairvoyance i do think you have

21:11

that in a lot of cases the

21:14

lot of people that clean

21:16

the have those abilities are going

21:18

to come forward and try to offer their

21:20

services reading the bottom

21:22

line is a really was no meaningful

21:25

information they came in

21:27

as result the

21:29

the reward being offered the

21:31

nbc today show did story

21:33

on how justin and

21:36

his brother lance work to produce

21:38

t shirts baden's and flyers

21:41

to help raise awareness around

21:43

a lose disappearance despite

21:45

these efforts just and didn't actually

21:48

speak publicly about

21:50

a lowes disappears into

21:52

almost three weeks after the case

21:55

initially made headlines the

21:57

other thing that came out was that he

21:59

was they're really cooperating with

22:01

the police according to the

22:03

bangor daily news the

22:06

about this is odd behavior they claim

22:08

that her ex boyfriend was withholding

22:10

information about what really

22:12

happened day christmas

22:14

two thousand eleven came and went

22:16

without any new developments the

22:19

be refer the family yeah i

22:21

am we have talked about that before it's

22:24

gonna be ross everyday that

22:27

there you have child missing

22:29

loved one missing you don't know what's

22:31

happened to them the day

22:34

windows the exams

22:36

roll around birthdays christmas

22:40

holiday stuff like that they

22:43

get maybe even a little bit tough

22:45

that her the

22:48

i've never been through it so i i can't

22:50

speak to and i can only imagine

22:53

how would seal that it must be christmas

22:56

then we don't have our dog what

22:59

do you have to think about you know

23:01

parade the you hit only

23:05

one christmas yeah that's how young

23:07

she was according to

23:09

central maine dot com the

23:11

year before a special ornament

23:14

belonging to ala had hung

23:16

on the christmas trees it was a

23:18

baby teddy bear saying baby's

23:20

first christmas and was adorned

23:22

with three pink lights that's

23:25

an amazing time the baby's first

23:27

christmas right the one thing

23:29

that no family thinks about the

23:31

a unless you have child with very

23:33

serious illness is that

23:36

this baby's not going to see

23:39

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23:41

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27:22

as the on december

27:24

thirtieth the main state police

27:26

major crimes unit took over the investigation

27:30

along with massachusetts detectives

27:32

who continued searching

27:34

the dipietro so

27:37

you don't want take a minute and step obviously

27:40

they're focusing on since

27:44

they're searching it extensively so

27:46

it is the last place that

27:49

ala was known to

27:51

have been you can kind

27:53

of see as we go to the story

27:56

the sheer the ah okay

27:59

we have to find this the girl she wandered

28:02

out of the house who

28:05

suspicion following

28:07

on yeah

28:09

mapping that's pretty easy to see

28:12

as we move along yes then

28:15

on top of that to have trista coming

28:17

out telling newspaper

28:19

he knows more been

28:21

what he's headset if

28:23

he's not talking alive the not because

28:25

you what doesn't help to case

28:28

it also it

28:29

doesn't help really the perception

28:31

of that person in

28:33

the in the eyes of the minds

28:35

of many people looking at

28:37

it from the outside and as true that

28:40

could be that person's just shy they don't

28:42

want to give up a public speech sure

28:44

they don't want sit down with report

28:46

let's face it some of those

28:48

actions rightly

28:50

or wrongly the negatively

28:53

affect other people's opinion in

28:56

january two thousand and twelve police

28:58

searched a half mile stretch

29:00

of the i see center back

29:02

river between a damn and brits

29:05

that found nothing

29:07

that's a month just in interest

29:10

both to polygraph test

29:12

central maine dot com reported

29:14

that trista wasnt able to

29:16

complete her polygraph due to

29:19

the medical condition and

29:21

justin's results weren't

29:24

made pub according to the

29:26

bangor daily news a month after

29:28

a was disappearance a second

29:30

candlelight vigil was held and waterville

29:33

on january seventeen kristin

29:35

just in both attend that

29:38

it was reported that justin

29:40

was the first to leave the event the

29:43

any refused to make any comments to

29:45

the media yeah i don't want

29:47

to me who much out the spray

29:49

we know that every one

29:51

deals with dress

29:53

differently situations differently

29:56

like said some people don't like to talk

29:59

to the media right they have trouble

30:01

with public speaking maybe

30:03

this guy was just very private

30:06

person the

30:08

referred the deal with anguish

30:10

he was going through here by

30:13

himself

30:14

away from the public that maybe felt

30:16

shown up there for the time he did was what

30:18

he needed to do this show support his

30:20

daughter and in laughter

30:23

the much time said okay time for me to go why

30:26

you know how that looks in

30:28

a good it does he doesn't make

30:30

you look good the

30:33

gear first couldn't understand

30:35

why he would do that obviously

30:38

he was going through the same the

30:40

after he works there's a when

30:42

i'm gonna be more unified in

30:44

your efforts to where

30:46

does your daughter yeah i believe that's

30:48

what she thought the use pattern

30:51

right the things that justin

30:54

did the way that he can have handled

30:57

doesn't prove that he did anything wrong in

31:00

the eyes of the population doesn't make

31:02

him look right

31:04

is going make people scratch their heads maybe

31:07

even more than that maybe you

31:09

know make them be little suspicious

31:11

in late january

31:14

nbc news reported that police

31:16

announced that blood sound

31:18

on the property belong to a lot also

31:21

announced a new theory saying

31:24

that they now down ala

31:26

was abducted from the home that

31:29

justin's version of events the

31:32

didn't pass what they labeled

31:34

as the straight face test

31:37

oh yeah yeah you know we're trending

31:39

through this case i said it the

31:41

doesn't look good he doesn't look good

31:43

now police are really coming out

31:46

and they're casting a

31:48

good deal of suspicion on

31:51

just

31:52

in with this information and now

31:54

he was acting the visual

31:57

said it's just not looking good way

32:00

the law

32:01

in february trista told cbs

32:03

boston she was considering legal

32:06

action against the

32:08

hs the claim that

32:10

the agency failed the conduct the required

32:12

background checks on

32:14

all the adults in the dipietro

32:17

home or conduct regular

32:19

welfare visits to check on a

32:21

on march eleven justin

32:24

spoke with the morning sun

32:26

and he said that he believed

32:28

ala had been kidnapped despite

32:31

this theory having been

32:33

discounted by this point but the state

32:35

police on march twenty fourth

32:37

police held a press the asking

32:39

residents of greater kinda back county

32:42

the search their homes and yards

32:44

for signs of a lot police

32:46

also stated that communication

32:49

between the two pete rose and

32:51

investigators had basically

32:53

stuff

32:54

but according to central maine dot com

32:57

dot question family claimed this was because

32:59

the police refused to answer

33:01

their question you know when you

33:03

as twenty month old

33:06

the the last thing that you'd wanna

33:08

do is halt communication

33:11

the the authority you do yet

33:13

you now i think what they're saying

33:16

is it was a one way

33:18

street

33:19

they had questions that they were

33:21

asking police wouldn't answer they

33:23

made decision that you know what

33:26

we're not going to answer questions when

33:28

i'm with you if your goal

33:30

is to find your daughter which

33:32

should be your only goal right then

33:36

i would they the last

33:38

thing you would want to do is to

33:41

put up a barrier between

33:43

yourself and the agencies

33:45

who are out there trying to find

33:47

her find out what happened to her the

33:50

on ala second birthday about

33:52

one hundred people the tended her

33:54

public birthday party in

33:56

portland monument squares many

33:58

of those in attendance we're a loose

34:00

family or close friends of

34:02

the family there were a

34:05

lot of people from the commute it

34:07

showed up strangers

34:10

we had no ties to ala

34:12

or her family and see

34:14

most people you this

34:17

as the poor for

34:19

trista therein poor and land

34:22

she lives in portland according

34:24

to the charlie project in

34:26

april two thousand twelve four months

34:29

after a was disappearance police

34:31

found what they called unspecified

34:34

items of interest in the kinda back

34:36

river the items were

34:38

recovered about mile from

34:40

the dipietro home on

34:42

may eighth these drained

34:44

a damn diversion channel and

34:46

waterville looking for evidence

34:48

some identified items were recovered

34:51

and send for testing but proved

34:53

to be unrelated to the case

34:55

you know good thing here's police are still

34:57

working still looking that

35:00

giving up searching rivers

35:02

and streams the not to find

35:04

something yeah i think the tough

35:07

part than

35:08

we do see this and many unsolved

35:10

cases rights when police

35:12

say unspecified items

35:14

of interest okay we

35:17

don't know what those are and

35:19

that's tough for everyone

35:21

you know it is true crime

35:24

aficionados we want know

35:26

as many sachs's as we

35:28

can get re our minds

35:30

around but as you said

35:32

many times in some of these

35:34

unsolved cases the please don't put out

35:36

everything then there's good reason

35:38

for that the following month

35:40

main say police held up least

35:43

the time we have some news to share with

35:45

the public which they hoped

35:48

would invigorates the investigation

35:51

the news wasn't good id

35:53

the police announced that they believed

35:55

ala was no longer alive

35:58

they also reiterated that the

36:00

didn't believe she'd been of done according

36:03

to the trolley project is had since

36:05

come out that's just and was

36:07

in his home alone on the night in question

36:10

the girlfriend courtney roberts his

36:12

sister lisa and

36:14

bear young children had also been in

36:16

house at the time that ala

36:19

disappear after just and

36:21

had put a lot of the we

36:23

should check on her nice around ten

36:25

pm in saw that

36:27

she was asleep police it interview

36:29

just then elise and courtney

36:32

on december eighteen just

36:34

after ala disappeared

36:36

what another shot in detail was announced

36:39

that the press conference police

36:41

stated that in addition to a

36:43

strong smell of bleach substantial

36:46

amount of ales blood had

36:48

been discovered throughout the dipietro

36:51

it was found on her slippers

36:53

a doll in her bedroom on the first

36:55

floor in near justin's

36:57

bed which was in the basement the

37:00

blood in the basement also had

37:02

traces of vomit and so why greece's

37:05

avails blood were also found on her

37:07

car seat and justin's car law

37:10

enforcement didn't reveal the quantity

37:12

of blood found at time according

37:14

to the bangor daily news invest

37:17

years wouldn't say much about the discovery

37:19

aside from the quantity

37:22

of blood being more than small

37:24

cut would produce c b

37:26

s thirteen and w g

37:28

m e news later reported

37:30

that forensic technicians behind

37:32

the scenes had actually identified

37:35

the equivalent of more than

37:37

cupful have real as

37:39

blood according to cbs boston

37:41

police announced the reward offer would

37:44

end on june third that

37:46

is a bombshell bombshell police

37:49

have known as for quite

37:51

a while the is it

37:53

probably how you

37:56

why they were so focused

37:58

on the dipietro home

38:01

very early on now this

38:03

is being announced public is

38:05

his hearing about this we've already

38:07

talked about the public sentiment

38:10

it couldn't have been real good

38:13

the hordes just

38:15

and maybe even some of his

38:17

family members the speculation

38:20

the the

38:21

on that something bad

38:23

happened in that house will now

38:25

use find out there was blood

38:27

all over oh

38:30

yeah

38:30

in or smell bleach which is

38:32

typically used to cleaner they're

38:34

just adds to the

38:36

suspicion right and i'm

38:38

sure to a lot of people gibbs's revelation

38:42

that cord me and elisa had been

38:44

in the house when a with disappeared

38:46

this most likely raise suspicions

38:49

about them what do they

38:51

know what had they not

38:53

told police according

38:55

to the charlie project courtney

38:57

and her child slept in the basement

38:59

bedroom with justin on

39:01

the night in question the sister

39:03

lisa and her child what

39:06

on the first floor closer to

39:08

ales bedroom lisa told

39:10

police ale as blood would have been present

39:12

in the property you to

39:15

ala vomiting in response

39:17

to severe lactose intolerant

39:20

the you know a toddler vomiting blood

39:22

the serious medical issue i

39:24

would think that would be

39:26

something where you would

39:29

get immediate medical

39:31

attention now i get

39:34

kids toddlers they

39:36

throw up all time when he

39:38

started vomiting blood that

39:40

is much different that's

39:43

no different than than you are off

39:46

my get a stomach saying

39:48

and it causes me to vomit okay

39:50

not too worried the there's

39:52

bunch blood in it

39:54

my worry level goes up big time as

39:56

your after the yorkshire according

39:59

to the in your daily news

40:01

the route may and july of

40:03

two thousand and twelve trista

40:05

organized a four mile walk in

40:07

waterville called the eyes

40:09

open war in another

40:11

one importance on july six

40:15

justin's brother lamps was found

40:17

guilty of an assault committed

40:19

the previous february according

40:21

to the morning sun the altar

40:23

case in occurred when the

40:25

father of elisa dipietro

40:27

so which was justin's

40:30

nice was said to have made comments

40:32

about ales disappear which

40:35

apparently lance didn't take kindly

40:37

to the makes wonder what these comments

40:39

would have been too make someone

40:41

get into a fight yeah absolutely

40:44

i mean you can only imagine that the

40:46

possibly were inflammatory

40:49

to elicit that type of response

40:52

on july seventeenth investigators

40:55

the undertook another search of kinda back

40:57

river and up to the

40:59

hydro kinda back day

41:01

they they didn't find anything of interest

41:04

three months later in october

41:06

two thousand twelve construction workers

41:09

who were repairing a bridge

41:11

over the mesereau on skis

41:13

stream artificially lowered

41:15

the water and state

41:17

police detectives used an opportunity

41:20

to dredge the stream again looking

41:23

for any sign of ala according

41:25

to the bangor daily news they came up empty

41:28

him

41:28

donna given up though no they're not giving up

41:31

go back to you know what you said

41:33

before which is really

41:35

putting a lot of effort into

41:37

the same we mentioned it

41:39

brian this is the biggest criminal

41:42

investigation in the history

41:44

of maine there is one of the largest

41:46

searches for missing child

41:48

that states history as well

41:51

two months later investigators

41:53

conducted to searches and southern

41:55

new hampshire just before

41:57

the one year anniversary of

42:00

the disappearance law enforcement

42:02

announced they weren't quitting in their search

42:04

for the young girl despite

42:06

the fact that then sound anything

42:09

the help them in their investigate

42:12

there has to be deflate the year

42:14

we said you're putting a lot of effort

42:16

a lot of resources into it the

42:19

to not come up with really

42:21

anything now you've

42:23

got some the thing that

42:25

happened inside the

42:27

peter home the don't know what to make

42:30

a bomb the mother seems

42:32

to be concerning high as

42:34

it relates to finding

42:37

a finding out exactly

42:39

what happened to her they really

42:41

didn't have any now according

42:43

to the bangor daily news on december

42:45

fourteen two thousand two police

42:48

announced at press conference that

42:50

communication between themselves

42:53

and the dipietro family had

42:55

improve in and to me this

42:57

is an interesting announced they

42:59

they announce that is broken

43:01

down the dipietro family

43:04

really wasn't cooperating

43:06

then it came out that they

43:08

found what was some very concerning

43:11

things are inside the house

43:13

now they have press conferences says

43:15

okay the communication has

43:17

improved this is great as

43:19

would you want that's great but what's gonna

43:21

come out of that's the big

43:23

question okay it's improved

43:26

how's it going to help on one

43:28

year anniversary a was disappearance

43:30

around twenty people with candles

43:32

insane christmas carols out

43:35

ron of the home where she was

43:37

last seen over six months

43:39

later on july twenty six

43:41

two thousand thirteen justin

43:43

pleaded not guilty who

43:46

domestic violence assault the

43:48

and courtney had broken up by this

43:50

point but he was charged with

43:52

grabbing and pushing her during an

43:54

argue that september trista

43:57

step father just hansen started

43:59

the british the asking the

44:01

attorney general to bring charges

44:03

against justin over ales

44:05

disappearance on september

44:07

tenth just was arrested in south

44:10

portland for possessing

44:12

alcohol which was violation

44:14

his bail conditions then on

44:16

september twenty six first

44:19

the publicly confronted just when

44:21

he attended court in portland

44:23

on the assault matt there's the told

44:25

media outlets that she wanted

44:27

to use justin's appearance to raise

44:30

awareness of the fact that there

44:32

were still no charges against any

44:34

one in ales case

44:36

seems like a couple rough months for just and

44:38

thats what i was thinking the other

44:40

thing that

44:42

crossed my mind gibbs is

44:44

he and courtney broker courtney

44:47

was there inside the house

44:50

the night that ala disappeared

44:52

he's charged with domestic

44:55

violence assault against her you

44:58

would think that would be the

45:00

time if she knew anything

45:03

the bow what it happened

45:05

if he had done something the

45:07

heard a you're right that be the time

45:10

for her to come forward somehow

45:13

was involved and

45:15

whatever she said would implicate her

45:17

as well yeah i think that's a

45:19

good point on

45:22

october twenty third hibs from

45:24

the public led to another search

45:26

spicy police in the woods

45:28

off hussey hill road and oakland

45:31

the area had repeatedly been

45:33

mentioned by tipsters calling it

45:35

well unfortunately nothing of value

45:38

was recovered that's interesting

45:40

the fact is you have a large number of

45:42

people calling in with

45:44

tips about a very specific

45:47

location wonder why yeah

45:49

wonderful was psychic surges locals

45:52

then they search it and nothing

45:54

spot in november two thousand and

45:56

fourteen the statute

45:58

of limitations some

46:00

charges which could be applied

46:02

dales case was about to

46:04

expire trista was devastated

46:07

that no one had been charged with

46:09

child endangerment she told

46:11

central maine dot com that in

46:13

her view the austin elisa

46:16

and feed should be put

46:18

in jail three and a half years

46:20

after ales disappearance there

46:22

was sudden hope that her

46:24

remains had been located on

46:27

june twenty fifth two thousand and fifteen

46:29

the on identified body of toddlers

46:32

was found in plastic bag on

46:34

the shore of dear i'll in

46:36

massachusetts authorities

46:38

estimated the little girl who became

46:41

known as baby death then

46:43

between three and five years

46:45

old at the time she died ala

46:47

was only twenty months old at the time

46:50

of her disappearance the baby

46:52

though was a lot that

46:54

meant that he had to

46:56

have been hell for

46:59

a period of time before she

47:01

was killed the it

47:03

was eventually eliminate though as

47:05

being the young girl who'd been

47:07

found washed up on the islands

47:10

in september two thousand and fifteen the

47:12

tiny victim was identified as

47:14

two and half year old bell above

47:17

those

47:17

mother richelle and her boyfriend

47:20

michael mccarthy were arrested even

47:22

though bellows autopsy couldn't confirm

47:24

the cause of death he was evidence

47:27

that the toddler had been murdered

47:29

siobhan pleaded guilty to

47:31

being an accessory after the fact

47:34

michael mccarthy was convicted of second

47:36

degree murder and since

47:38

to life in prison with

47:40

the possibility of parole radek

47:42

sad mean was

47:45

ala which are day the

47:47

family had to be happy that wasn't yeah

47:49

but i think about getting that new

47:52

if it if you're the family you

47:55

hear that the cobbler

47:57

has been found it the could be

47:59

a that emotion what's

48:02

a feeling it has to be read

48:05

or me i don't even know are keen match

48:08

it didn't find out that it's not her

48:10

maybe some release my he says

48:13

but the same time another

48:15

toddler was murdered tragic

48:18

what a terrible way to dispose of body no

48:20

one has been formally named as

48:22

suspect and ales case here

48:25

we talked about it gives a lot of the

48:27

attention has been directed

48:30

towards certain individuals

48:32

however there's no physical evidence

48:34

at this stage for detectives to charge

48:37

anymore and go back to

48:39

what was found inside the home quite

48:42

bit blood the couple blood

48:44

is that's lot guess what i'm

48:47

from a towel why did someone says

48:50

yes she was bombing blood that

48:52

night and okay

48:54

we tried to clean some of it up do

48:57

you have enough to bring charge

49:00

the

49:00

you can things that some

49:02

of these people are involved very

49:04

all day long what did the end

49:06

of the day

49:08

this is what's frustrating and many unsolved

49:10

cases it's all about

49:13

getting a charge to stick

49:15

sure in putting things

49:17

in front of jury that would

49:20

get beyond that reasonable

49:22

doubt and and whatever legal

49:24

hurdles there

49:26

maybe she did have blood on rom

49:28

it maybe they did try to clean it up then

49:31

sure sure they've taken to to the hospital i

49:33

think so but maybe they thought you know what you

49:36

don't bomb and anymore put her back to bed

49:38

things will be good the wake up the next

49:40

morning as he's gone that's what they're saying

49:42

happened please weaver

49:45

the probably that the why

49:47

i think if you look online

49:50

as we often due to can see

49:52

which way the wind is blowing at least

49:54

prom the side of

49:57

the public sentiment there's

49:59

a the suspicion yeah that

50:01

is cast on just

50:04

then and and you know some members

50:06

of his family there's there's just no way around

50:08

the anybody can go out there and in

50:11

search this case you're gonna see some

50:13

very very negative comments the

50:16

guitar to say that it was a stranger abduction

50:19

without a small the had three

50:21

adults in the house the

50:24

the top theory know for century exactly

50:27

early on police considered whether

50:29

ales disappearance somehow resulted

50:31

from an axe there are things

50:33

you can look at that two different

50:36

way if ala made

50:38

it answer in somehow

50:41

you died from let's say an

50:43

accident what you would

50:45

expect to find her

50:47

body relatively quick yeah

50:50

expresses way that the research

50:52

that area in the other hand

50:55

if she fell victim to an accident

50:57

inside the home while

50:59

adults were present the

51:01

natural only be explained by

51:04

cover yeah maybe they

51:06

got nerve that

51:08

know what to do the cared

51:11

in two things in their own

51:13

hands did something with her body

51:15

to hide it again we're not saying

51:18

that's what happened but there's

51:20

really only two ways

51:22

from my perspective that

51:24

the accident angle can

51:26

be explained then i think the first

51:28

one's pretty tough because again

51:32

she's probably not gonna go very far

51:35

in her body you would say would

51:37

have been sent at least by now

51:39

but most likely fairly

51:41

quickly in the investigation yeah

51:44

we talked about the fact the truth the was

51:46

in rehab the time but

51:48

we also know that she filed

51:50

for sole custody the day before

51:53

they would disappear there

51:55

are some people online the

51:57

ebb that have floated the theory

52:00

that truth the could have arranged

52:02

for her daughter to be a dog the

52:05

taken somewhere until she finished

52:07

rehab i do yeah

52:09

this one's tough theory because

52:11

first all there's nothing to substantiate

52:15

right is just theory that keep

52:17

afloat and people float lot theories

52:20

in these unsolved cases

52:23

i think to buy into this you

52:25

would have to believe that

52:28

he then got her daughter back

52:31

it has been able to somehow cider

52:33

all these years from the public

52:37

from near the authorities it

52:39

just doesn't seem to hold water hertha

52:42

later told true crime daily than

52:44

police informed her ala had

52:46

been rolled up in a blank and

52:48

put in tote bag he

52:50

maintains her beliefs the just has

52:53

knowledge of what happened ala he

52:55

said at this point at

52:57

time we're recording this episode

53:00

there's been no charges against

53:02

justin or anyone else

53:05

in ales disappearance

53:07

ferguson's part he continues

53:09

to maintain his enough then

53:11

denied any involvement in his daughter's

53:13

disappearance order he

53:15

also maintains that

53:17

you will was in abducted by a stranger

53:19

but instead by someone known

53:21

her though

53:23

he has never publicly

53:26

named he thinks is

53:28

responsible the one thing that's

53:30

known gibbs's that law

53:32

enforcement as well as trust

53:35

publicly stated that justin

53:37

hasn't been entirely honest about

53:39

what he knows about that we

53:42

don't know what that is that he

53:44

didn't have been honest about

53:47

it's one thing for trusted come out

53:49

say that think it's another

53:51

thing entirely for law

53:53

enforcement to make that same

53:55

serious that to me

53:58

mean something now they're not

54:01

going to share everything

54:03

they know or everything

54:06

that leads them to believe that

54:08

but it definitely mean some according

54:10

to nbc ten boston

54:13

ala was declared legally dead by

54:15

the state of maine in september

54:17

two thousand seventeen this

54:19

was in response to request

54:22

made by trista the already

54:25

stated they believed ala had dust

54:27

around the same time that she

54:29

was reported missing according

54:31

to the morning sentinel the

54:34

had moved across the country to california

54:37

by the time that ala was

54:39

legally declared dead when

54:42

he was served copy of the court document

54:44

and his new address he denied

54:47

being the person listed on the paper

54:49

working question are you serious

54:51

thing to do it is i understand

54:54

wanting to move where do you

54:56

had something to do with this or not there

54:59

is a part me that understands

55:02

maybe not wanting to continue

55:04

to live in that area the

55:07

memories the the

55:09

anguish that maybe things would would

55:11

bring up you hear that all the time an

55:14

unsolved cases know you also hear

55:16

the flipside people don't want it ever

55:19

because they they think you're gonna get

55:21

phone call or they think that person's gonna

55:23

walk back through the door why

55:27

to deny your the person

55:29

you are that is certain is

55:31

strange

55:32

i get i get why my want to move specially

55:34

with some negativity in

55:36

his direction right from the public the

55:39

would

55:40

you deny that years your name him

55:42

maybe that is why he denied

55:44

because he just doesn't want people

55:46

to know where he is he

55:48

doesn't want that the grass who

55:51

knows

55:52

according to the associated press

55:55

on december seventeenth two thousand

55:57

eighty first the filed wrongful

55:59

death the lawsuit against justin

56:02

the alleged that he caused

56:04

their daughter's death through intention

56:06

all wrong for actions subjecting

56:09

her to free death

56:11

pain frites terror

56:13

and physical injury

56:15

justin responded claiming that

56:18

a was blood was found in the house because

56:21

she had previously been ill we

56:23

mentioned gibbs a cop full of

56:25

blood let a lot to

56:27

lose yeah i i think

56:29

in a grown adult to lot to lose

56:32

i think it's definitely lot

56:34

to lose they're getting sick

56:37

now

56:38

the me that would be more

56:40

like may maybe

56:43

sustaining an injury a

56:46

serious card or know

56:49

something like that could you

56:51

vomit a cop full of blood maybe

56:53

i don't know seems like lot if

56:55

you do is we headed off to the hospital again

56:58

i do go back to that as well

57:01

the very least as kind

57:03

bad parenting i think yeah

57:05

that so as part of soon

57:07

first was seeking unspecified

57:09

monetary damages see

57:11

claim the primary motivation

57:14

behind soon the find

57:16

out what happened to a lawyer and bring

57:18

her body home the truth the

57:20

was unable to get the lawsuit

57:23

served because by

57:25

this point no one could find just

57:28

it was reported that he'd gone

57:30

underground the to publicly

57:32

appealed the justin

57:34

fire inside edition saying i

57:37

promise you wherever you are one

57:39

day you will have to face then

57:42

tell me the truth what really happened

57:44

to ala you can't hide

57:46

from this forever

57:48

according to w m t w

57:50

news it wasnt until may two

57:52

thousand nineteen the justine

57:54

surfaced and responded

57:57

denying any responsible there

57:59

you know sound like a broken record

58:01

but you does any

58:03

of this stuff prove that he

58:05

did anything wrong no besides

58:08

maybe not being great parent

58:10

that night raid if she was

58:12

vomiting that amount blood the

58:15

prove that he heard her

58:17

that he killed her nuts

58:19

but in the court of public opinion

58:21

it's almost everything this guy has

58:24

done the made the public

58:26

against him right i think

58:28

you could say that the big a

58:30

lot of people have asked the question is

58:34

justin voiding

58:36

the press because

58:39

he just wants the you know handle things

58:41

privately

58:42

or is it something else is easy

58:44

concealing something that

58:47

he doesn't wanna be asked about he doesn't

58:49

want the authorities to find out about

58:52

why people have that question there and

58:54

because the lack of communication

58:56

from them the are going have those questions

59:00

according to fox twenty three news

59:02

in february two thousand twenty two

59:04

first applied to court to

59:06

expand the scope of her loss

59:09

yeah justin this was off the

59:11

back of a forensic report reviewing

59:14

the initial police investigation

59:17

reports and photographs held by the office

59:19

of the main attorney general the

59:22

main state police indicated that

59:24

he was bloodstains amount

59:27

location an appearance

59:29

throughout the dipietro home

59:31

suggested that her blood

59:33

hands simply spilled from an injury

59:36

it had been attempted to be cleaned up

59:39

hertha alleged that justin cbn

59:41

elisa were involved in the clean

59:43

up and then hid ale his body

59:45

and an unknown location then

59:48

we talked about to bleach we talked about

59:51

the fact that

59:52

why people have suggested that

59:55

there was a cleaner

59:57

according to central maine that thumps

59:59

if updated suit is approved

1:00:02

justin cbn elisa

1:00:04

will all say several counts of wrongful

1:00:06

death conscious pain

1:00:08

and suffering and wrong for

1:00:10

interference with the body of a deceased

1:00:13

person cb will face account

1:00:15

of premises liability

1:00:18

in just and was also face of town

1:00:20

of breach of parents duty

1:00:22

of care to a minor child the

1:00:24

lot charges it's lot of charges

1:00:28

yeah i don't know if yeah

1:00:30

that's gonna go through the

1:00:32

civil proceedings have been affected

1:00:34

by the delays you

1:00:36

to near the pandemic the

1:00:39

the time or recording this here's

1:00:41

the sued has not yet been heard court

1:00:44

to honor her daughter and remind

1:00:46

the community ala isn't forgotten

1:00:49

truth keeps a pink port side in

1:00:51

every night in december

1:00:53

every year the month a the went missing

1:00:56

the light shines twenty four hours that

1:00:59

at the time of a was disappearance

1:01:01

he was to foot nine inches

1:01:04

tall the wait thirty

1:01:06

pounds gifts the

1:01:08

yeah blonde hair and blue eyes

1:01:11

if you have any information

1:01:13

on the disappearance of ala using

1:01:15

contact the national center

1:01:17

for missing and exploited children

1:01:20

at one eight hundred the laws

1:01:22

the main state police had two

1:01:24

zero seven six two four

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seven zero seven six

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or the waterville police department

1:01:32

at two zero seven seven

1:01:34

two five five five

1:01:36

one

1:01:37

can also leave an anonymous tip

1:01:39

at the mainstay police website

1:01:42

that w w w dot

1:01:44

main dot gov slash

1:01:46

dps last msp so

1:01:49

gibbs as we wrap up this case

1:01:51

it is a very sad the

1:01:53

real time you're dealing with child

1:01:56

in this one we're dealing with a twenty

1:01:58

months the the the

1:02:01

one thing that then i will say this

1:02:04

there's no way for us to know conclusively

1:02:08

what happened to ula

1:02:11

reynolds the know also

1:02:13

say there's no doubt my

1:02:15

mind based on

1:02:18

the public cinema the

1:02:20

majority of people believe

1:02:22

that

1:02:23

justin either had something

1:02:25

to do with or know more

1:02:28

than where he is told police i'm not

1:02:30

saying that i'm saying that

1:02:33

that is clear rom

1:02:35

what you see posted on

1:02:39

we're in and moan forsman his said that

1:02:41

so i don't think it's stretch mean

1:02:43

when you get case only three things could happen right

1:02:46

the he got up fraud

1:02:48

walked out of place by herself someone

1:02:51

came in hooker or

1:02:53

something happen in that home that night that

1:02:56

we're not completely made aware

1:02:58

of here i would say that yeah

1:03:01

i would probably lean towards

1:03:04

some a did take her stranger

1:03:06

abduction right and we have

1:03:08

seen that before in cases

1:03:11

where

1:03:12

you're a family was really

1:03:14

look that as being responsible

1:03:17

and it later turned out that somebody

1:03:19

actually did hum inside

1:03:21

that house then

1:03:24

take chance it could happen it can

1:03:26

happen there's no doubt about us i see what

1:03:28

really make this

1:03:30

case so much different

1:03:33

in many of the other cases like

1:03:35

that is this blood

1:03:37

sure this cop for

1:03:39

is what you described as a

1:03:41

cop full of ales blood throughout

1:03:44

the house and the

1:03:46

explanation by the people

1:03:48

in their house that it was all

1:03:50

due to her the hundred

1:03:53

i can't get past that because

1:03:56

i know every parent listening

1:03:59

the the same thing if my son

1:04:01

or daughter matter how old

1:04:04

they were yeah boumediene

1:04:07

a cup full of blood be

1:04:09

calling nine one one because

1:04:12

now would be so scared

1:04:15

the see that much blood

1:04:18

coming out of your child the only

1:04:20

real warming then i can't imagine

1:04:22

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1:04:25

the action getting kid today the

1:04:27

hospital the end

1:04:30

the to me that's the one saying

1:04:32

that really sticks with me about

1:04:35

this case doesn't mean they're guilty

1:04:37

of the disappearance doesn't

1:04:40

look good i don't think looks good

1:04:42

ending

1:04:43

but that's it for our episode on

1:04:45

the disappearance of a low reynolds

1:04:47

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