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3:03

Hello,

3:03

everyone, and welcome to episode

3:05

two eighty three of the True Crime all the

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3:10

with me as always is my a partner in true

3:12

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3:14

I'm doing good. How about yourself? I'm doing

3:17

very very well. You and I have

3:19

so much out right now. We

3:21

put out a Patreon episode, Saturday

3:23

Night, on Mark Becker.

3:26

You know, this was a a young man

3:28

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3:31

when he murdered his former high school

3:33

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3:35

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3:37

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3:39

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3:42

I think this was episode forty nine.

3:44

Yeah. So we've got quite a bit

3:46

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3:48

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3:50

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3:52

Montgomery. And this is a case that

3:54

I have had down on

3:56

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3:58

I've wanted to do it for a long time. It's

4:00

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4:03

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4:05

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4:08

There's

4:08

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4:09

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4:12

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4:15

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4:15

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4:17

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6:02

Exactly. Alright, buddy.

6:03

Are you ready to get into this episode

6:05

of True Crime all the time, console? I'm

6:07

ready. We

6:08

are talking about the disappearance of

6:10

Diane August.

6:12

Diane Louise August. Went missing

6:14

on April tenth nineteen ninety

6:16

eight. She was last seen at a

6:18

few different locations in Hudson,

6:21

Florida. In the days after

6:23

Diane went missing, a strange

6:25

and concerning piece of evidence was

6:27

found in the location where

6:29

she was last seen. twenty

6:31

four years later, the disappearance of

6:33

Diane AUGget leaves investigators

6:36

with many more questions than answers.

6:38

Diane Louise AUGgett was born on

6:40

February twenty first nineteen fifty

6:42

eight. She was forty years old when

6:44

she went missing Dan

6:46

used several aliases or

6:48

nicknames, including Ginnie

6:51

l, August,

6:52

Diana Laura, August, Diane

6:55

Young,

6:55

Denise, Jackie, Madonna,

6:59

and Diana. Yeah. It's a lot of

7:01

aliases. Yeah. It's a lot

7:03

of different names to use

7:05

there's only one other person that I know of

7:07

that has that many names

7:09

that they use on a regular basis and

7:11

that's you. you're referring to

7:14

me or Rex right now? Rex,

7:16

you and the subset

7:19

of names that

7:20

that you use.

7:22

But the one thing I never could figure

7:24

out, it really wasn't in the research,

7:27

was why Diane

7:28

used all these different names. So

7:30

that's kind of a mystery. At

7:32

one point, Diane was married with

7:34

three children. She had two

7:36

daughters and a son. According

7:39

to Diane's mother, Mildred Young,

7:41

Diane was a stay at home mom. in

7:43

the seventies and early eighties,

7:46

Diane was married to a man named

7:48

Frederick AUGget, who ran an

7:50

assisted living facility in

7:53

Landa Lakes, Florida.

7:54

In Landa Lakes. And then where the butter's from?

7:57

That's what the box says. I don't think

7:59

they make it in

7:59

Florida. I don't think they make a lot of butter

8:02

in Florida. Probably not. Probably not.

8:04

Yeah. I think that's more of a, like,

8:06

a Wisconsin thing. Yeah.

8:08

The Tampa Bay Times wrote about Diane.

8:10

She had once been a meticulous woman

8:13

whose life centered on

8:15

her three children. Well,

8:17

that could be said about a lot of moms. Yeah. I was

8:19

thinking the exact same thing. you know,

8:20

a lot of moms

8:23

and dads for that matter. You know,

8:25

their

8:25

lives center

8:28

around their children once

8:30

they have them. Yeah. You know, I was

8:32

the same way. Before I had kids,

8:35

my wife and I we

8:37

so much freedom. Oh my

8:38

god. We could do whatever we wanted to

8:41

separately or together.

8:43

And then it was, you know, like,

8:45

once the first child comes

8:47

along. Everything

8:49

centers around that child. Yeah.

8:51

And

8:51

then the second one comes along. And then

8:53

there's even more. to take care

8:56

of. And it just kinda

8:58

becomes the routine

9:00

of making sure they have

9:02

everything they need. Okay.

9:04

Maybe I don't get new clothes

9:06

because the

9:06

kids are growing out of there so fast

9:09

that the money has to

9:11

go

9:11

there. Right? They're the priority.

9:13

They are. They they really are.

9:16

Diane's sister, Denise Young, told

9:18

the Tampa Bay Times, She had

9:20

hundred dollar pocketbooks. She

9:22

was pretty. There could be a thousand

9:24

people in the room, and you'd

9:26

only notice her. Mildred

9:29

told news outlets that Diane could

9:31

be a little too trusting of

9:33

others.

9:33

She also said that she

9:36

liked men with money. You

9:37

know, it's easy to be true

9:40

trusting of others. Yeah. Because

9:42

you think about that and it's

9:44

like you want to

9:46

trust people. because you

9:48

want all people to be good.

9:50

Yeah. The

9:50

problem is we know

9:52

not everybody is. There

9:54

are some bad apples

9:57

There are people out there doing bad

9:59

things. In

9:59

the late eighties, Diane was

10:02

diagnosed with manic

10:04

depression. now called

10:06

bipolar disorder. She took

10:08

her medications sporadically to

10:10

help manage her symptoms, Well

10:12

taken sporadically, not

10:14

always the best way to take that type of

10:16

medication. I

10:17

don't think it's ever, the best way

10:19

to to take that type of medication. you and

10:21

I actually talked about this quite a

10:23

bit on the Patreon episode

10:25

that

10:25

came out on Saturday because,

10:28

you know, in that episode, the

10:30

individual was

10:32

prescribed a number of different

10:34

medications, but wouldn't take

10:36

them sometimes for months.

10:38

Right? If you're not taking them, they can't do the job

10:40

that they're been prescribed for.

10:42

In nineteen eighty eight, Diane lost

10:44

custody of her three children. PROSECUTORS

10:47

CHARGED HER WITH CHILD ABUSE

10:49

BUT SHE WAS EVENTUALLY ACQUITTED

10:51

AFTER HER QUITTLE, THE STATE

10:53

DEPARTMENT OF CHILDREN AND FAMILY. made

10:55

additional allegations against

10:57

her and Diane's children were

10:59

removed from her custody. But

11:01

here again, you know,

11:03

all the sources that we looked

11:05

at, the research that we did, none

11:07

of it really went into detail.

11:10

about these allegations that

11:12

were made against Diane. So

11:14

we can't really elaborate on them

11:16

because we didn't find it. But as

11:18

a mom that loved your kids

11:21

to no longer have those kids in your

11:23

custody, that's gonna

11:24

have an impact on you. Yeah. It's

11:25

gonna have a huge impact on you, and you just

11:28

would love to know what

11:30

these allegations were.

11:32

Denise Young told the Tampa Bay times,

11:34

the crocs of her whole mental health

11:37

issue was losing the

11:39

children. She put pictures of

11:41

them on her refrigerator, and

11:43

she would look at them and stand there and

11:45

just cry and cry. You know, I

11:47

think if you no longer had your

11:49

kids in your life? You'd probably

11:51

cry too. Right? I know it would be very

11:53

upsetting to me if I lost my kids.

11:56

Dude, I can't even imagine it.

11:58

Someone forcibly

11:59

removing my

12:02

children. Yeah. I

12:03

don't even know how I would handle it.

12:06

Diane and her husband divorced in

12:08

nineteen ninety one. After

12:09

the divorce, Diane's life

12:12

began a rapid downward

12:14

spiral. She was arrested

12:16

several times for petty crimes

12:18

and also involuntarily

12:21

committed under Florida's Bakers

12:23

Act. The University of Florida

12:25

Health defines the Baker Act

12:27

as a Florida law

12:29

that enables families and loved

12:31

ones. to provide emergency, mental

12:33

health services, and temporary

12:36

detention for people who

12:38

are impaired because of their mental

12:40

illness, and who are unable

12:42

to determine their treatment needs.

12:44

Under the Baker Act, a family

12:46

member, a friend, judge,

12:48

officer or doctor can decide if

12:51

a person needs an involuntary

12:54

exam or commitment to

12:56

an institution. It was reported

12:58

that Diane was taken into custody at

13:00

least thirty two times under

13:02

the Baker Act. That's a lot.

13:04

That's a lot of either

13:06

friends or somebody in

13:08

the medical field or family members

13:11

suggesting that you need

13:13

to

13:13

be looked at. Yeah,

13:14

I mean, I don't think there was

13:16

any secret. Diane struggled with

13:19

mental health issues. She

13:21

wasn't taking her medication regularly.

13:23

And that was definitely true at the time of

13:25

her disappearance. She

13:27

also struggled with drug and alcohol

13:30

addiction. Just a few weeks before

13:32

Diane went missing. She received

13:34

treatment at a mental health facility in

13:36

Florida. Diane's family

13:38

believes She shouldn't have been

13:40

released from this facility

13:43

because she needed institutionalized care.

13:46

So as we talk about

13:48

Diane's disappearance, sources

13:51

differ

13:51

on dates

13:54

for the timeline. And this

13:55

is something that you and I run into

13:58

on a fairly regular

13:59

basis. Yeah. You know,

14:01

you can look at five or

14:03

ten different papers. and they

14:05

will report different

14:08

dates. And it's kind of

14:10

hard to decipher

14:12

what's correct normally

14:14

what we do is we

14:16

find

14:17

the most common dates used

14:20

for a specific event and we

14:22

go with that. Right? So it

14:24

may be that four papers used

14:27

this date, two papers

14:29

used another one, and another

14:31

paper used even a different date gonna

14:33

go with the one that was used

14:35

most often. So

14:36

Diane Algett was last seen

14:39

leaving her house around eleven

14:41

AM on April tenth. nineteen

14:43

ninety eight, she

14:44

did not have her medication with

14:46

her

14:46

when she left her house.

14:48

Sources differ on if I

14:51

Ian lived in Odessa or

14:53

Hudson, Florida. The Tampa Bay

14:55

Times reported that Diane

14:57

stayed with her sister

14:59

in Hudson, But based on a number of

15:01

different sources, it seems like Diane

15:03

may have had a house in Odessa

15:05

as well. So that could

15:07

help explain the discrepancy.

15:09

AND INFORMATION. DIAN'S

15:11

SISTER LEFT HOME FOR A DOCTORS

15:13

APPOINTMENT AND SHE WAS NOT

15:15

THERE WHEN DIAN LEFT

15:17

WHEN SHE RETURNED. Diane

15:19

was gone and she

15:21

never came home that day. So I

15:23

think as a sister, that would

15:25

be concerning. Especially

15:27

knowing the

15:29

information that we've talked about.

15:32

Right? The number of times that

15:34

she had

15:34

been committed under the Baker

15:36

Act

15:37

knowing that she didn't

15:39

have her medication with her.

15:42

No. All

15:42

of that would be extremely concerned.

15:45

Diane

15:45

was seen at two restaurants before

15:47

she went missing. A bartender at

15:49

the Haloff Tavern saw

15:51

her on April tenth. Mildred

15:53

Young said that the bartender

15:55

stopped serving Diane because

15:58

she

15:58

was walking in circles. Will that be

16:00

a good reason to stop serving somebody?

16:03

Well, and

16:04

let's talk about the

16:06

medication. We said she took it sporadically,

16:09

but

16:09

we all so know that mixing

16:12

certain types of medication with

16:14

alcohol can

16:15

really intensify its

16:17

effect. Diane's last

16:19

confirmed location was in Hudson,

16:21

Florida,

16:22

located on US nineteen, and

16:24

US nineteen is important. It's

16:26

a central location in Diane's

16:29

case. Diane was lassing

16:31

wearing a white tank top, blue

16:33

shorts and white sneakers.

16:35

She had her nails painted a

16:37

reddish coral color. On

16:39

April fifteenth nineteen ninety

16:41

eight, less than a week after Diane's

16:43

family reported her miss saying,

16:46

Diane's mother Mildred received the

16:48

phone call from Diane. No one

16:50

answered the phone so the call went

16:52

to voicemail. when

16:54

Mildred listened to the message, she

16:56

heard Diane say, help

16:58

help let me out. She

17:01

said she heard a scuffling sound

17:03

as if someone took the phone

17:05

from Diane. And then

17:07

Diane responded, hey, give

17:09

me that. and then the call

17:11

suddenly ended. The caller

17:13

ID indicated that the call came

17:15

from a business called

17:16

Starlight.

17:17

Imagine you

17:18

come home, little

17:20

message lights on, you play it, and you hear

17:22

that message. Your daughter's been

17:24

missing now for almost weak.

17:27

I mean, I think your heart would be pounding

17:29

out of your chest as you hear that

17:31

message. Trying

17:31

to understand what is going on.

17:33

Now

17:33

on the one hand, I think you'd be elated. That

17:36

at

17:36

the very least,

17:37

you know she's a lot. But to

17:40

your point, You gotta go into

17:42

scramble mode. Almost detective mode

17:44

trying to figure out what

17:46

this message means. These

17:48

little snippets. Yeah. help

17:51

help let me out. Okay? That

17:53

doesn't sound good. No. And

17:55

then if someone takes the phone away

17:58

and Diane says, hey, give

17:59

me that And then all

18:01

of a sudden, the call is, oh, you don't have much

18:03

to go on, but you'd be wracking

18:05

your brain, trying to figure out,

18:08

k, what does this mean? And

18:10

then once you find out that it

18:12

came from Starlight, well, what the

18:14

heck is Starlight? Yeah. Now, of course,

18:16

Diane's family tried to call the

18:19

number back but no one

18:21

answered. And we

18:21

didn't find anything in the research

18:23

where either Diane's family

18:26

or the police for that matter

18:28

ever figured out what the starlight

18:31

was or where it was actually located.

18:33

On the day that Diane

18:34

called her family, A

18:36

waitress at the end on the gulf and Hudson

18:39

claimed she saw Diane eating lunch at

18:41

the restaurant. And then the very

18:43

next day, On April

18:45

sixteenth nineteen ninety

18:47

eight, a severed finger

18:48

was found near the intersection

18:51

of US nineteen and New

18:53

York Avenue, in Hudson,

18:54

Florida. A local

18:56

man's girlfriend actually saw the

18:58

finger on the night of the

19:00

fifteenth while she walked to work.

19:03

along US nineteen. She was

19:05

concerned by what she saw,

19:07

but she thought it was a fake

19:10

finger. And we have heard this so many

19:12

times over the years and

19:14

episodes. A lot of

19:16

times, it's somebody who sees

19:18

a body and believes

19:20

that it must be

19:21

a mannequin. Right?

19:23

Because III

19:23

think naturally your brain

19:26

just doesn't wanna go

19:28

to Oh, well, sure. That's that's a dead

19:30

body. Or that's a

19:32

severed finger. You don't wanna believe that.

19:34

No. It it must be a mannequin. It

19:37

must be a fake finger.

19:38

Now I think some of our

19:39

listeners today probably would

19:41

think otherwise

19:42

now. Well, I I think

19:44

with the proliferation of true

19:46

crime, podcasts,

19:47

the shows --

19:49

Yeah. -- the documentaries, everything

19:52

that we've learned. We're

19:55

all now quasi forensic

19:57

experts and we're hunting and we're trying

19:59

to solve cases, I

20:02

think today Yeah.

20:04

A lot of people's minds probably

20:06

go the other way. Exactly.

20:08

That probably is a dead body. Yeah. Or

20:10

that probably is a severed finger.

20:12

and

20:12

they get over there, like, oh, it's just a mannequin. Or it's

20:14

a Burlabs act, it's somebody throughout the

20:16

window or or whatever. But III

20:19

wanna talk about this woman

20:22

walking to work, sees this on the

20:24

ground. Thanks. Okay.

20:26

Somebody's

20:26

throwing a fake finger on the ground.

20:28

I'm

20:28

not even gonna check that out. Right?

20:30

because

20:30

I don't believe it's real. I'm gonna keep

20:33

walking. I gotta get to work. But

20:35

she must have told her boyfriend about

20:37

it

20:37

after work. because he

20:38

went to the spot the next day to look

20:40

for this finger. And when he

20:42

found it, he called the Pascoe

20:45

County Sheriff's Office. According

20:47

to the dough network,

20:49

a

20:49

second finger was observed by

20:52

someone,

20:52

but the

20:53

police only found one at the scene.

20:55

and it was said that the finger had been

20:58

severed above the knuckle. Fingerprints

21:00

were taken and the

21:03

finger was identified as belonging to

21:05

Diane August. We mentioned

21:07

it. Right? Diane was wearing coral

21:09

nail polish when she went

21:11

missing and this finger that was

21:13

found on the ground had coral

21:15

nail polish. So we got

21:17

her on tape this weird message.

21:19

Right? Let me out. Sounds like something

21:22

really bad happened. We just don't know when the

21:24

finger was severed.

21:26

Yeah. I think your first inclination is to think that

21:28

it most likely happened after

21:30

the phone call sometime

21:32

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21:34

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After this discovery, Mildred Young

25:44

spoke with the Tampa Bay Times and told

25:46

them that Diane had a

25:49

habit of trusting strangers. Mildred

25:51

believes that Diane was kidnapped

25:53

and said she is in trouble.

25:55

Big trouble. They're probably

25:58

torturing her I'm hoping that she's

25:59

still alive and that they haven't

26:02

killed her yet. Well, they

26:04

cut her finger off at the knuckle.

26:06

It sounds like torture to me. But

26:08

to what end? Yeah. You know, that that's the first

26:10

thought that goes through my mind

26:13

is, why are you

26:14

torturing someone who

26:17

doesn't

26:17

really seem to have a lot.

26:19

She wasn't rich at

26:21

this point in her life. Did she

26:23

have some kind of valuable information

26:26

that someone was trying to, you know, get

26:28

from her. Obviously, it wasn't

26:30

a ransom situation.

26:33

where someone would off a digit

26:36

and send it as proof

26:38

that

26:38

if you

26:39

don't pay up And

26:41

obviously, there was no ransom demand either. But I'm

26:43

just trying to run through a bunch of different

26:46

scenarios. I'm not really sure what

26:49

the reasoning would be. Maybe with

26:51

somebody just being cruel. Well, that's

26:53

true. And I don't think you can

26:55

discount factor. You and

26:57

I on TCAD have profiled a lot of

26:59

people who did things

27:01

that were

27:01

very sadistic just

27:03

for

27:03

the mere I

27:05

don't wanna say fun of it, but just

27:07

to be

27:07

cruel. Yeah. There was no

27:09

other motive behind it for

27:11

their

27:11

own enjoyment. So

27:14

detectives considered two possibilities

27:17

upfront. One

27:17

was foul play, and the other

27:19

was that Diane was in some

27:21

type of an accident and

27:24

lost her finger. On April

27:25

seventeenth, the police searched the area

27:28

where the finger was found They

27:30

didn't find Diane, and they really didn't find any

27:33

additional evidence. So it's just

27:34

like the thinker. And that

27:37

was it. over the weekend

27:39

after Diane's finger was

27:41

found, the police received thirty

27:43

eight calls. Most of these

27:45

were from people who thought they saw

27:47

Diane in different

27:49

locations. The police investigated

27:51

the calls, but they didn't

27:52

find her. one

27:54

day later, a bag of neatly

27:56

folded clothes belonging

27:58

to Diane was found

28:00

in the freezer. of a convenient

28:03

store in Odessa, Florida.

28:05

On April eighteenth, totally

28:07

convenient store manager, Patricia,

28:10

Splendorio found a bag of clothes

28:12

in the store's outdoor freezer.

28:14

Right away, she recognized

28:16

them as Diane August's

28:19

clothes. Because apparently,

28:21

Diane was a frequent customer

28:23

of this convenience store. So you're just

28:25

going about your normal day at

28:27

the convenience store and go out to the outdoor freezer and

28:30

boom, right there, a bag

28:32

full closing your outdoor freezer.

28:34

And then to

28:35

make the connection, to

28:37

Diane August because she was

28:39

a frequent customer. That's kind

28:41

of amazing. Really, when you think about

28:44

it, But why put

28:46

the clothes in that freezer? Yeah.

28:48

It's a great question because you know

28:50

they're going to be found. So I think

28:52

you have to look at it along

28:54

those lines. if this was

28:56

somebody who

28:57

did something to Diane.

28:59

Naturally, you would

29:02

assume they would want to

29:04

discard those clothes in

29:06

an area where no one would find

29:08

them, maybe even burn them. But

29:10

that's

29:10

not what we're talking about here.

29:12

you

29:12

know those clothes are gonna be found and they're gonna be found

29:14

very quickly. Yeah. So I think that's

29:16

something that we have to at

29:19

least keep in the back of our mines

29:21

as we go through this, Patricia called

29:24

Diane's sister, Deborah

29:26

Cronin, who also

29:27

identified the clothes as

29:30

Diane's. And

29:31

Deborah knew because she had given

29:34

Diane some of these clothes. Kevin

29:36

Doll, a sheriff spokesman, told the

29:38

Tampa Bay Times that

29:40

Some

29:40

of the juveniles who hung out with Diane at

29:42

her home in Odessa might have

29:44

put

29:44

the clothes there. These same

29:46

juveniles were suspected of looting

29:49

Diane's home after her

29:51

disappearance. But here's the

29:52

thing, police have come out and said they don't know

29:55

if the clothes were planted at

29:57

the store before or

29:59

after, Diane went

29:59

missing. miss Patricia told

30:01

the police that the last time she

30:03

checked the freezer was three

30:05

weeks before she found the clothes.

30:08

That's a long time checking that freezer. Yeah.

30:10

And I guess I was wrong when

30:12

I said that you know they're gonna

30:14

be found quickly I'm

30:16

assuming if you've got a freezer that that's outside,

30:19

it's gonna be checked on a daily

30:21

basis. You would think? In this case,

30:22

that's not how

30:24

it went.

30:25

That same day, the police received

30:27

a tip. That some of Diane's

30:29

things were stolen from her house

30:32

in Odessa, They allegedly

30:34

allowed people to have parties at

30:36

her Odessa House before

30:38

she went missing,

30:40

which

30:40

could explain how so many people knew where

30:42

she lived and were able to get into

30:44

her house. And to me, this

30:46

goes back to you

30:48

know, a comment that

30:51

Diane's mother, Mildred, made to

30:53

the paper, that

30:54

she was very very trusting of

30:58

people. Yeah. And

30:58

so,

30:59

maybe she did. Let people in and out

31:02

of the house. Let

31:03

them have access. Maybe

31:05

she put the clothes there.

31:06

Could be? Maybe

31:07

she cut off her own finger. At

31:10

this point, it's a mystery. Yeah.

31:12

On April thirtieth, the

31:14

police announced that they found a witness

31:16

who reported seeing Diane on US nineteen

31:19

near where her finger was

31:21

found on April eleventh. The

31:23

witness saw her walking north near New York

31:26

Avenue between three and four

31:28

PM. So

31:29

this witness saw her

31:30

four days before the finger was

31:33

found. and four

31:33

days before the phone call was made.

31:36

Now, I don't know what to

31:36

make of that information other

31:39

than Obviously,

31:41

she was alive on April

31:43

eleventh, but we already

31:45

knew that

31:46

because she made the

31:48

phone call. John Powers, a Sheriff's

31:50

Office spokesman, said that

31:52

the information was important because

31:55

it added another day of

31:57

information to their time line. Power's

31:59

told

31:59

depressed. I wouldn't classify it as a

32:02

quantum leap by any means, but

32:04

every little bit helps. So I

32:06

guess

32:06

I get that. you

32:08

now know where she was on April

32:11

eleventh. And any bit of

32:13

information is is good. I get

32:15

that part. but it's definitely not

32:17

a quantum leap. No.

32:19

Not at

32:19

all. Unfortunately,

32:20

Diane's case went cold

32:23

after this. The sheriff's office had

32:25

spoken with over a hundred people and

32:27

they'd followed up on a number of

32:29

leads, but no one

32:31

reported seeing her to the police.

32:33

again.

32:33

And she

32:34

never made another phone call.

32:36

The police

32:36

and Diane's family worried that she

32:38

was dead as the months

32:41

passed. would

32:42

be two more years before there was

32:44

an update in Diane's case.

32:46

And again,

32:47

something you and I have talked about.

32:49

You have to have hope in

32:51

a disappearance case. But

32:54

as the months go on

32:55

and you have no new

32:58

information, You

32:58

don't hear from your loved one.

33:01

There's

33:01

no one reaching out to say,

33:03

oh, yes. I saw her

33:06

here. Right? I think it would be

33:08

very tough for

33:10

your mind not to go to

33:12

that place that we've

33:14

got

33:14

to expect the worst. because

33:16

we're talking months and months now with no contact. Yeah.

33:19

And you know

33:19

that when when she calls

33:22

and leaves this frantic voice

33:24

mail, there's

33:25

a finger bound on the side of the

33:26

road, outside of that. And

33:28

when you know she doesn't have her medication and

33:31

you're not hearing from any hospitals where she's

33:33

been admitted,

33:34

made it he

33:35

had to be concerned. The authorities

33:37

investigated a tip in October

33:39

two thousand, but it turned out to

33:41

be a dead end.

33:44

Mildred thinks that Diane

33:46

knew the person that abducted

33:48

her. She also fears the

33:50

worst possible outcome

33:52

that someone killed Diane

33:54

and

33:54

cut up per body. Well,

33:56

that would be a

33:57

worse outcome. That's worst possible

33:59

scenario. In

34:00

November two thousand the

34:03

Saint Petersburg Times ran a

34:05

story on Diane's disappearance just one

34:07

day later. A bag of personal

34:09

items was found at a

34:11

circle k convenience store in Pasco,

34:14

Florida. On November twenty fifth two

34:16

thousand, a woman named

34:18

Terry Wilson entered the

34:20

Circle k convenience store in

34:22

Pasco, Florida to buy

34:23

cigarettes in a soda. She found

34:25

a clear plastic bag

34:27

on top of the lottery counter.

34:30

She took the bag

34:31

to her car. And when she looked

34:33

at it, she

34:34

she saw die saw Diane. written on

34:37

it in black marker. The bag

34:38

contained eyeliner, perfume,

34:41

lipstick and toothpaste.

34:44

Terry Wilson was the girlfriend

34:46

of Diane August brother. Diane

34:48

had been missing for two

34:51

years at this point Terry

34:53

Wilson took the bag to

34:55

Mildred Young. Mildred was devastated,

34:58

but held out hope that the

35:00

bag didn't belong

35:02

to Diane. pretty strange that Terry found this bag at a convenience

35:04

store just laying on top of a cat owner.

35:06

This

35:07

far after Diane

35:09

yeah been

35:09

missing. Well, strange in

35:10

in the fact that she's

35:13

Diane's brother's girlfriend. Yeah. Not

35:15

just a random Just

35:18

the fact that that bags there seems strange. Well,

35:20

that's true. Then you had the fact that she's

35:22

the one that finds it. the

35:25

ads It's unbelievable.

35:26

This

35:27

Circle K is located near

35:30

Veeva Villas, a neighborhood

35:32

that Diane used to visit fairly often.

35:35

Three months before Diane went

35:37

missing around January nineteen

35:39

ninety eight. Diane was picked up

35:41

by police officers who found her wandering

35:43

near Veeva villas. They returned her to

35:46

her mother's house. Mildred

35:48

Young

35:48

said that the

35:50

items found in the bag seemed like things that

35:53

Diane would have owned. Diane was

35:55

given the tube

35:56

of similar

35:58

looking toothpaste when she was

35:59

released from a psychiatric

36:02

hospital not long before

36:04

her disappearance. but

36:06

investigators have not been able to confirm if

36:08

the items really belonged to Diane

36:10

or not. Less than a year later,

36:13

A man connected to Diane's case was

36:16

arrested for murder. The

36:18

Coral Sands motel, where Diane was

36:20

last seen, was

36:22

managed by Gary Robert Evers and his girlfriend

36:24

Rose Casper. In two thousand

36:26

one, Evers

36:27

was charged with

36:28

murder. after

36:31

shooting and killing a man during an argument. He is

36:33

considered a suspect in

36:36

Diane's disappearance. but

36:38

was never charged with anything. At

36:40

four AM,

36:40

on Wednesday, June twenty seventh

36:43

two thousand one, two armed

36:45

men wearing ski masks entered

36:47

the office of the Coral Sands

36:50

Motel. Rose Casper, the

36:52

manager shouted to her boyfriend. He's got

36:54

a mask. The two men

36:56

began beating Rose. Gary

36:58

Robert Evers, the co manager, came

37:00

out of the backroom, and the two

37:03

men fled. And then just before midnight, on June

37:05

twenty eight, Evers confronted the man

37:07

he believed was involved in the

37:10

attack. Twenty six year old

37:12

Todd Camrys. Todd's

37:14

family

37:14

last saw him at nine PM on

37:16

the twenty eighth. A driver had

37:18

run out of gas on US nineteen.

37:21

cameras

37:21

rode his bike to his parents'

37:24

house to borrow

37:24

their gas can. Then rode

37:26

to the local seven eleven to

37:28

buy gas and help the driver out.

37:31

At the time, cameras was

37:33

on probation for a

37:35

burglary conviction.

37:36

After eleven PM, Evers

37:38

invited cameras into the motel office,

37:40

which was basically a mobile home

37:42

that he and Rose lived in

37:45

Evers asked cameras if he was one

37:47

of the men who

37:48

attacked Rose. He then pulled

37:50

out his gun and

37:51

shot cameras

37:54

multiple times. emptying his nine millimeter

37:56

handgun. Everest put a new magazine

37:58

into the gun

37:59

and fired until it

38:02

was empty. That would be

38:04

extreme. I would use the word

38:06

overkill. Todd cameras had a

38:08

criminal record for

38:10

burglary, battery, battery

38:11

on a law enforcement officer selling

38:13

in possession of marijuana,

38:16

trespassing, aggravated

38:18

and burglary of an automobile. So not an upstanding

38:20

citizen. Now he's got a pretty

38:22

lengthy rap shade. He was last

38:24

charged with burglary in

38:27

February two thousand. But although

38:29

Todd Cammers had a troubled

38:31

life, his family told papers that

38:33

he had a daughter and

38:35

a long term girlfriend whom he loved very much, and that he went

38:37

out of his way to help others. He

38:39

did ride his

38:41

bike to get gas

38:43

for somebody who ran out of gas. It sounds like he

38:45

was trying to do the right thing. At at least in

38:47

that instance, according to

38:49

tampa bay dot

38:51

com, Gary Evers had no

38:53

official criminal record. Many

38:54

people considered him to be a pretty

38:57

nice guy, but it did seem as though

38:59

he had a violent temper. In

39:01

October nineteen ninety nine, sheriff's

39:03

deputies responded to a report

39:06

of aggravated assault at the

39:08

Coral Sands Motel A man reported that

39:10

he went to the motel to look for

39:12

a woman. He met at a strip club.

39:14

When he asked

39:15

Evers about this

39:18

Evers

39:18

pointed two guns at him and said, How

39:20

dare you

39:20

mess around with another man's

39:23

woman? No charges charges

39:25

were filed were filed. Maybe

39:26

he did have a little temper.

39:28

And maybe he had a habit of very quickly pulling out

39:30

guns

39:30

on people on

39:33

June twenty ninth. Gary Evers was

39:35

charged with first degree murder. The police did not confirm

39:37

if

39:37

cameras was one of the men involved

39:40

in the

39:42

attack. And

39:42

so I wanna go back and touch on

39:45

this Todd camera. The one thing that really stuck

39:47

out to me was

39:50

that if he was in

39:52

fact involved in this attack

39:54

at the Coral Sands motel, why

39:56

in the world would

39:59

he accept

39:59

an invite from

40:00

Gary Evers. Exactly. You know it's not gonna

40:02

be good.

40:03

At the place where he

40:05

had allegedly committed this

40:08

violent act.

40:10

Yeah. what good is going to come from whatever

40:12

this meeting is going to be. That just

40:14

did not make sense to me at all.

40:16

Now, I don't know what

40:20

the premise of the invite was. I

40:22

don't know what was said, but

40:24

you'd have to be a real

40:26

sweet talker. to get me

40:28

to enter that trailer

40:30

knowing that I had

40:32

done something really bad

40:34

at that location. would there's

40:36

no reason for me to go into that trailer.

40:38

I'm not going. No. And and

40:40

and so I'm really stupefied.

40:42

stupefied by that

40:45

whole situation, it makes me think

40:47

that Todd Cameron's was

40:50

probably not

40:52

involved. in the assault. I have no idea why ever

40:54

thought he was, what

40:56

evidence he had, but what's

40:58

not in doubt is that

41:02

he

41:02

shot this man to death and used two full magazines

41:04

to do it. Yeah. He

41:06

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41:07

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41:07

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41:08

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45:33

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45:36

the disappearance of Diane

45:38

August. After his arrest,

45:40

the police

45:41

called Diane's sister, Deborah Cronin,

45:43

and told her that he

45:45

had been arrested. So

45:46

we know that Diane was last seen at the Coral Sands Motel.

45:48

Where Gary Evers and Rose

45:50

Casper had been manager since

45:53

nineteen ninety seven, The hotel

45:55

was located on US

45:58

nineteen. I couldn't actually figure out

46:00

if it's still there. It didn't come up in

46:02

my searches. but that's where

46:04

Diane was seen walking and where

46:06

her finger was found. Her finger

46:08

was found just one block from

46:10

the motel. According to Mildred Young and Deborah

46:12

Cronin, the first detective who worked the

46:14

case, informed

46:16

Deborah

46:16

deborah that

46:18

Evers was a suspect, and Diane was last

46:20

seen at the Coral Sands motel.

46:23

According to

46:24

the Tampa Bay time,

46:26

after Evers was charged, Deborah asked to

46:28

detect it if there was anything in his

46:30

home that linked him to Diane.

46:33

and the

46:33

detective told her she might have to look

46:36

at some items from the

46:38

home. The problem is

46:39

we never could find anything

46:41

that came from it.

46:43

And that's most likely

46:46

because this case is

46:47

unsolved. Yeah. On July

46:49

twelve

46:49

two thousand one, Evers

46:51

was indicted for the murder of Todd

46:54

Kamers. Todd Kamers

46:55

family was adamant that he was not

46:57

one of the men who

46:59

attacked Rose Casper. On

47:00

September twenty eighth two thousand one, Todd's family

47:03

received confirmation that he wasn't

47:05

involved. The sheriff's office

47:07

charged Edwin Humphrey, with

47:10

the assault and attempted robbery and implicated

47:13

a second man. The sheriff's

47:15

office spokesman declined to

47:18

comment. on if cameras was officially cleared as a

47:20

suspect, but said that the investigation

47:22

was complete. Edwin

47:24

Humphrey was already in jail.

47:27

for car jacking, kidnapping, and

47:29

armed robbery. On June

47:31

twenty fifth,

47:32

Humphrey and three other accomplices,

47:34

kidnapped, beat, and robbed a cab driver.

47:36

Humphrey was then charged for

47:39

attacking Rose Casper. He was

47:41

charged with armed burglary, attempted

47:44

armed robbery, conspiracy to commit robbery and

47:46

aggravated battery. Some real winners

47:48

here. Yeah. We

47:48

got a lot of bad people here.

47:51

An eighteen year old man named Robert Hay,

47:53

helped plan and participated in

47:56

the attempted robbery

47:58

and assault but Robert Hay would never be charged

48:00

because he was found dead on July

48:02

fourth two thousand one

48:04

on the side

48:05

of a road. The

48:07

police believe that hay was killed on June twenty ninth or thirtieth.

48:09

Hay was also wanted for

48:11

the same car jacking incident

48:13

on June twenty fifth.

48:16

According

48:16

to police, Hayon Humphrey, entered the motel office

48:19

wearing masks and armed with

48:21

a shotgun and pellet gun.

48:24

they

48:24

demanded money and threatened Rose Casper, humphrey,

48:26

hitter in the face with the gun.

48:28

So it sounds like they can't

48:31

come out and conclusively say it,

48:34

but police don't believe that

48:36

Todd Cameron's was involved

48:38

in this. His family doesn't believe he was involved in

48:40

this, and that makes total

48:42

sense to me. Let's go back to what we

48:44

just talked about. Yeah. If he

48:46

was involved.

48:48

Why in the world would he step

48:51

foot inside the trailer with Evers? That

48:53

just doesn't make

48:56

sense. And I think sometimes

48:58

you have to look at some of

49:00

these cases from that angle. What

49:02

makes sense? What doesn't make sense?

49:05

can we conclusively rule out

49:07

everything using that? No. Does

49:09

it

49:09

work more often

49:12

than not? I would say

49:14

yeah. Yeah. common

49:14

sense. On March twenty second two thousand and

49:16

two, Edwin Humphrey was sentenced to

49:19

life plus fifteen years for

49:21

the attempted robbery and battery

49:24

of Rose Casper. Rose

49:26

spoke in a prepared statement and

49:28

said that she managed to take

49:30

Humphrey's gun and

49:32

chuted him But since it was a pellet gun, he

49:34

survived. Humphrey received a life sentence

49:36

because he was a repeat

49:38

offender. This is a it's a

49:40

pretty hefty sentence,

49:42

life plus fifteen years, but, you

49:44

know, being a repeat offender, you know?

49:46

Well, and it's good to see.

49:49

you can argue whether the sentence is

49:51

fair or not. What I would

49:53

say is that too many

49:55

times we've seen

49:58

where somebody's previous eight thousand

50:00

convictions didn't seem to be factored

50:02

in in what they've

50:04

done now. Yeah. And they get a

50:06

slap on

50:08

the wrist. This was no slap on the wrist. That's judge did the right

50:10

thing. And apparently on his way out of

50:11

the courtroom, Humphrey told the

50:14

judge thanks for the life

50:16

sentence, asshole. Humphrey

50:18

also faced a

50:19

death penalty for the murder of

50:21

Robert Hay, but he eventually pleaded

50:23

guilty and received another

50:26

life sentence. So you

50:28

said a bunch of bad guys.

50:30

Obviously, this humphrey dude,

50:32

he was into some bad stuff. Yeah.

50:35

Gary Robert Evers was

50:37

convicted of murdering Todd Camvers. On

50:39

April twenty eight, two thousand

50:41

four, Evers was sentenced to

50:43

life without parole. He testified that he invited

50:45

Todd into the motel trailer. He

50:48

thought cameras ran

50:50

the neighborhood. and

50:52

would

50:52

have information about who attacked

50:54

Rose. They talked for three

50:56

hours. According to Avers, and

50:59

cameras drank heavily from a bottle

51:01

of vodka. Evers

51:02

testified that he knew Todd

51:04

wasn't involved in the robbery but

51:07

cameras threatened him and said that another robbery would

51:09

not happen if he was

51:10

allowed to live at the motel. Ever's

51:14

defense argued that he thought Todd Cameron was

51:16

reaching into his pocket to get

51:18

a gun, so he's shot

51:22

him first. In total, Todd Cameron was shot

51:24

eleven times. While he sat at the

51:26

kitchen table inside

51:28

the

51:28

trailer, It turned

51:31

out Todd had no weapons on him at all. He was also

51:33

extremely drunk when he died. His

51:35

blood alcohol content

51:38

level was

51:39

point three five. So you add all this evidence up

51:41

and it really discredited

51:43

the self defense

51:46

theory. and it led

51:48

to Everest conviction.

51:49

Well, I

51:50

mean, eleven times. How many times

51:52

you have to shoot somebody? Well,

51:53

I guess it depends on

51:56

the situation what I will say is times

51:58

makes it really tough to

52:00

argue self defense for

52:03

sure sure. when

52:04

it turns out that a guy has no

52:06

weapon, he's so drunk that

52:08

I doubt he could have

52:12

stood up. there's just no way to mount the

52:14

defense against that type of evidence. At the point

52:16

you drop your magazine and pop another

52:18

magazine in, he's still not moving white.

52:20

Keep

52:22

shooting. But

52:22

I wanna hear what you think about this ever's

52:24

testimony that, you know, he

52:26

just invited Todd in because he

52:30

thought he

52:30

would have information. And then it turned into

52:32

a a self defense scenario where

52:34

he thought Todd was gonna pull a

52:38

gun I'm not buying it, not at all. I think he

52:40

invited Todd because he

52:42

thought

52:43

Todd assaulted Rose and he

52:45

planned to kill

52:46

planned to kill him him. Yeah.

52:48

But,

52:48

of course, he doesn't wanna get on the stand and say that.

52:50

No. Gary Robert Evers

52:52

was never charged with anything in

52:54

relation to Diane's case and

52:57

he never confessed that he

52:59

was involved. Evers is

53:01

now deceased. He most likely passed

53:03

away on May first

53:05

two thousand twelve that's the date that is listed

53:07

as his date out custody

53:10

in the Florida Department

53:13

of Corrections Records. but

53:15

he was the only confirmed suspect in

53:18

Diane's disappearance. And my

53:20

fear gives is that, you

53:22

know, unless someone comes forward,

53:25

with

53:25

what they know, Diane's case

53:28

will remain open, but

53:30

it will remain cold -- Yeah. --

53:32

without any

53:34

new leads. Diane

53:34

August would be sixty four years old.

53:36

If she were alive today,

53:38

crimestoppers of Tampa Bay

53:41

is currently offering a three thousand dollar

53:43

reward. For information, you can submit

53:46

a tip online or

53:48

call one eight hundred 873

53:50

tips. You can also

53:52

contact sergeant Hatcher,

53:55

detective

53:55

Koenig,

53:56

or detective Harris. at the

53:59

Pascoe County Sheriff's Office.

53:59

So as we wrap up

54:01

this case gives, I mean, it's

54:03

a very confusing ones, a

54:05

little bit baffling. I

54:07

don't think saying doubt that Diane

54:10

AUGget had some issues. She

54:12

had some things going on in

54:14

her life. She might have trusted the wrong people. She might

54:16

have. She was definitely

54:18

battling some some mental

54:20

health issues.

54:22

It

54:23

sounds like she was not taking her medication --

54:25

Yeah. -- regularly. And maybe that had something

54:27

to

54:27

do with making

54:30

some bad decision that that ultimately, you

54:33

know, led to what happened to

54:35

her. We don't even

54:38

know that She's dead.

54:40

We don't. But it's

54:41

hard to believe, sadly,

54:44

that that she would be alive after all

54:46

these years. It

54:47

sounds to me as though, you know,

54:49

she had a family support system

54:51

who really cared about her. They

54:53

were trying to help her We

54:55

just don't really know what happened to her

54:57

that day. I think, you

54:58

know, you you think about the mystery of

55:01

the phone call and obviously

55:03

the the very very strange. Yeah. Those are the two things

55:05

that that kinda really jump out in this

55:08

case. The problem is it's hard

55:10

to put them

55:12

into context. cause because

55:14

we don't have any in the information that

55:16

would go around them or with them.

55:18

Right? And you

55:19

kinda need that. You you kinda need

55:21

that to make sense of the phone

55:23

call. Help let me out. Give me that. Okay? You

55:25

you can

55:26

make some

55:27

assumptions -- Right. -- that she was

55:29

being held against her will

55:32

But if that was the case, how is she

55:34

talking on the telephone? Why would somebody

55:35

allow her to talk on the

55:38

telephone? Or

55:40

did

55:40

she get to it? Someone realized that and then

55:43

yanked it out of her hand, and that's where

55:45

the, hey, gimme that

55:48

comes from. Maybe the, hey,

55:50

give me that is, give me my finger

55:52

back. I I don't know, man. I I

55:54

just don't know there's there's

55:56

too much missing. Yeah.

55:58

Sadly, that happens quite a bit

55:59

in the unsolved

56:00

cases. But that said for our

56:03

case on the disappearance of

56:06

Diane Hogan, We

56:07

got some voice mails give you and check those out.

56:09

Let's hear them. Hello. My

56:09

name is Tammy. I was just

56:12

calling. I'm I've

56:15

been listening to the unsolved episodes just

56:17

finished with the

56:20

McClung episode. the

56:22

episode you guys

56:24

were talking about the name

56:26

of a brother of Nimrod.

56:30

I found it interesting that I

56:32

have actually met two people with

56:35

the first names

56:38

of Dorpus for

56:40

their birth name.

56:42

And that

56:43

is another name that

56:46

has negative connotations

56:48

to it. and just makes me wonder

56:50

how parents can

56:50

do that to a child. Just

56:53

wanted to let

56:56

you know Keep

56:58

your head on the swivel,

57:00

and keep your enzymes sticking.

57:02

Bye. Now I

57:04

can honestly say I've never met anyone named Dorkus.

57:06

I don't know, Nemrod. But

57:08

she

57:08

knows two people

57:10

named Dorkus?

57:12

Yeah.

57:13

hear called me, memorize. I just I

57:15

just passed over it, like it didn't

57:17

happen. podcast is

57:18

amazing and helping me

57:20

get through today from six. I'm

57:23

on here with my cat

57:26

pancakes. Yeah. You and saving Private

57:28

Ryan have been getting me through today. He's been a

57:30

bit rough, but Thank you. You all

57:32

have a good day, and keep your own time, Becky.

57:34

Wow.

57:34

Sick and takes the time

57:37

to call in. Yeah. Now

57:38

I appreciate it. The podcast will get you through some

57:40

stuff. But so we'll save him private, Ryan.

57:42

It's a great movie, and obviously pancakes.

57:46

And pancakes, That's right. That's a cool name for a cat. It is. I it.

57:48

Hey, Mike and Gidi. It's

57:49

Tiffany from Florida, and I'm

57:51

just calling because I'm gonna have

57:53

a lot of time in the

57:56

next couple of days to listen to the

57:58

podcast because the hurricane is

57:59

headed right for me. So I'm just, like, driving

58:02

around town, trying to find water

58:04

because it's like COVID all over again, people taking all the

58:06

water and toilet paper. But I'm

58:08

excited to relisten to

58:10

alopecia and finish unsolved. I'm

58:12

looking forward

58:14

to it. just wanted to call in and say, oh, go

58:16

hurricane. So

58:16

I should have mentioned it upfront,

58:18

Gibbs, but, you know, it

58:20

did kinda hit me. We're doing a case in Florida.

58:24

Yeah. Obviously, there's a lot of people in Florida

58:26

that are in the path of

58:28

some pretty dangerous weather

58:29

for sure. partner

58:32

on criminology,

58:32

Moore, had to evacuate already.

58:35

We had to tape record early

58:37

in the in the week. So we

58:39

hope everybody stay safe. down

58:41

there. But I will say

58:42

and I thought this was really

58:45

nice of you, is that

58:47

Gibby has offered

58:48

who house to anybody

58:50

that has to relocate from Florida.

58:52

And I will give his address out

58:54

at the end of this episode. Oh,

58:57

yeah. Yeah. But I'm that type of guy. I thought that was very nice

58:59

of you to offer it up. You don't have a huge

59:02

place, but I mean, a whole family.

59:04

It may be wall to wall sleeping

59:06

bags, but What a fun time?

59:08

Put a family a family in every room.

59:10

Yeah. Maybe two families per room. I don't

59:12

know. You don't have that many rooms

59:14

at all.

59:16

But, you know, all joking aside. Everybody

59:18

stay safe. Follow the

59:20

instructions. You know, if they tell you

59:23

to get out, get out. Exactly. because

59:26

just be careful. It could get really bad. It

59:28

could get really bad. You and I are taking pretty early.

59:30

So by the time this comes out,

59:34

Yeah. The storm could be much worse. One

59:36

thing I learned about a hurricane is when you're

59:38

driving, make sure you put your top up. You

59:40

know, you're convertible. Don't leave

59:42

it down. because you will get inside your car. That's

59:44

good advice too. Yeah. I'm sure that's what most

59:46

people are worried about in the path

59:48

of a hurricane. Like a little tidbits. Is

59:50

they're convertible?

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