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363 of the True Crime All the

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And then we go back into the vault. This

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week we selected Cassandra Rupert.

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Thanks Rupert. We also had

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a great PayPal donation on

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behalf of Theo

2:31

and Christopher the

2:33

Greek boys. Yeah. So how about that?

2:36

A little Greek you know. I used

2:38

to go to Greece now then and

2:40

do some carving

2:44

out the marble sculpture.

2:47

Do they carve marble or

2:49

do they chisel it? Well let

2:52

us know. Sometimes I have to chisel sometimes

2:54

I carve you know. Depends

2:56

on which bits and pieces you were working

2:58

on. Yeah you know I mean I'd be

3:00

careful with that Zeus. I know I know

3:02

you did a lot of a lot of

3:05

nudes. But yeah. We

3:07

have an episode out right now

3:10

on True Crime All the Time

3:12

where we're talking about this guy

3:14

Steven Allwine and this is

3:16

a fascinating case. It's got a lot.

3:19

Murder for hire but we're

3:21

on the dark web. We are. We're

3:23

talking about Bitcoin and scamming

3:26

people and murder. I

3:28

had to get special permission from you

3:30

know who to even do

3:32

any research you know because technically I'm

3:34

not allowed to be on the dark

3:36

web anymore. Right. And you did

3:38

seem to have a lot of knowledge of

3:41

it. Which scared me a

3:43

little bit. Alright buddy are you

3:45

ready to get into this episode of

3:47

True Crime All the Time Unsolved. I'm

3:49

ready. We're talking about the disappearance of

3:51

Rebecca Coriam. Rebecca

3:53

Coriam was a 24 year old

3:56

British citizen who worked on a Disney

3:58

cruise ship. She disappeared. appeared

4:00

from the ship in March 2011. Company

4:04

officials theorized that she

4:06

was swept overboard by a powerful way.

4:09

However, Rebecca's family and

4:11

private investigators suspect that

4:13

she was harmed in some way.

4:16

So we have competing theories or a

4:18

number of theories here. It's

4:20

not surprising to me that, you know,

4:22

when you look at officials

4:25

of Disney, they may have

4:27

one theory of what

4:29

happened that is a little

4:32

more accidental, and the family

4:34

is not sure about that because we also

4:36

have some video, and we're gonna talk about

4:38

that as we go through the episode. You

4:41

know what scares me about

4:43

all that is that whole open water,

4:46

you know, that if you do get swept

4:48

out or you do fall, whatever happens, you

4:50

see that boat just kinda going away and

4:54

you're still just floating out there, that

4:57

deep open water. And nobody's looking

5:00

for you because they don't know that

5:02

you've gone overboard or something has happened

5:05

to you. It's a

5:07

scary thought to be out in the

5:09

middle of the ocean by

5:11

yourself, especially at night, and you feel something

5:13

touching your feet. Be like, hey,

5:15

hey, well, we've all seen Johns. Oh yeah.

5:18

Rebecca was originally from Chester,

5:20

a city in England. The

5:23

Guardian reported that Rebecca earned

5:25

a sports science degree from

5:27

Exeter University. She earned

5:30

a degree in youth studies

5:32

from Liverpool Hope University. Rebecca

5:34

was known for being an active person.

5:37

According to the LA Times, she

5:39

competed in triathlons in her free

5:41

time while studying in

5:43

Exeter, she got into surfing, and

5:46

she was also a member of

5:48

her university basketball team. That's really

5:50

pretty athletic. Yeah, so it sounds

5:52

like she was very

5:54

athletic. You know, when you talk

5:56

about people doing triathlons,

5:59

in the air, air free time, right? That's

6:02

a concept that is just

6:04

hard for me to grasp. You

6:07

know, it was for me too. And until that, uh,

6:09

2007 year when I was able to accomplish

6:13

that, you know, if it

6:15

was kind of the same year you did

6:17

the tour de France, it was, and it

6:19

was also because I, you know, I was

6:21

thought I just didn't have time. So I

6:23

was so busy getting that third PhD. Yeah.

6:25

But, um, it all worked out. I

6:28

just can't see putting

6:31

my body through something that

6:33

grueling for fun. Now

6:36

I know people do it. They love it, man. And

6:39

I'm sure it's a high. I've

6:41

just never experienced it. And

6:43

I'm pretty sure that I never will. You

6:46

know, and you're the type of person that if

6:48

you chose to do it, you

6:51

would go all out for it. I

6:54

go all out in pretty much everything I

6:56

do. Yeah. I just choose carefully

6:58

what I actually tried to do.

7:00

And a lot of times it involves swimming in the

7:02

ocean and we know how you feel about the ocean.

7:05

Yes. I'm out. Yeah. In

7:07

June, 2010, Rebecca was

7:10

interviewed for a position with Disney

7:12

cruise line. She was selected

7:14

out of hundreds of applicants. Now

7:17

I've been on a number of cruises. Sure.

7:19

I've never been on a Disney

7:21

cruise. I would think they would

7:24

be pretty exciting. Yeah. This makes

7:26

it sound as though they

7:28

have a pretty tough

7:30

screening process. You

7:33

know, she was selected out of hundreds

7:35

of applicants, maybe a

7:37

little tough, maybe to get a job on a,

7:40

on the Disney cruise line. I don't know. We think you

7:42

would need a certain type of personality,

7:44

like energetic and got to

7:47

be good with kids. Oh, absolutely.

7:49

I mean, this is not the

7:52

adult party all night

7:55

cruise. There's going to be a lot of

7:57

kids on a Disney cruise for sure. We're

7:59

back. work does the youth activities

8:02

coordinator she loved her job and

8:04

she enjoyed the travel opportunities that

8:06

came with it she was well

8:08

liked by the staff. End

8:10

form close relationships with some of

8:13

her coworkers if you're gonna be on

8:15

a cruise ship. Probably good thing to do you

8:17

know get along with everybody and have some

8:20

good relationships. Why i think

8:22

it's probably an atmosphere where you

8:24

you can form some pretty close

8:26

friendships you're gonna be with these

8:29

people. Day in day

8:31

out for an extended period of time one

8:34

friend told the guardian she was the

8:36

most amazing little burst of energy you

8:39

were completely drawn to. She loved

8:41

life bouncing around all the time

8:43

she was one of my best friends but

8:46

it could get a bit much you

8:48

come in from a heavy night. She'd

8:51

be zapping around everywhere playing

8:53

tricks on you she's very

8:55

mischievous. One of those over

8:58

energized persons yeah anything we've

9:00

all known people like that

9:03

in a situation where you

9:06

should be completely zapped from the

9:08

day they're still going like

9:11

the energizer bunny. That could

9:13

get on some people's nerves you

9:15

can yeah. Rebecca travel

9:17

to florida for four months of training

9:20

after she finished training she spent

9:22

four months working on cruises to

9:24

and from the bahama. She

9:27

then returned to britain for a two

9:29

month break and we were talking

9:31

about it on patreon but i did go

9:33

on a cruise this past christmas with the

9:36

family it was a lot of fun. I

9:38

was talking to the head

9:40

waiter the guy who. You

9:43

came to the table every night right

9:46

and he was kind of explaining his

9:48

schedule it was a pretty

9:50

grueling schedule it was you know

9:52

every day. Seven to

9:55

seven or whatever it was i forget

9:57

exactly but then he got like two

9:59

to three months. So

10:02

for those nine months or whatever it was, he was go,

10:04

go, go all the time. Sometimes

10:07

I think it could be a fun job for a young person.

10:10

Yeah. I don't know if I could do

10:12

seven days a week for nine months straight.

10:14

If that's what it is. I'd love

10:17

to have three months off, but I think

10:19

I'd, I'd need more than three months if

10:21

I did nine months with no time off. Yeah.

10:25

Maybe like a month on month off month on.

10:27

My dog Rebecca's next assignment

10:30

was on the Disney wonder

10:32

a ship based in Los

10:34

Angeles. According to the

10:36

guardian crew members on the wonder

10:38

sleep in windowless cabins below sea

10:40

level, they're contracted to work

10:43

seven days a week for

10:45

four, six and eight months

10:47

stretches followed by a few months off.

10:50

So that does kind of follow what,

10:52

what this guy was telling me. Now

10:55

this says four, six and eight. He was

10:57

more into the eight or nine. It sounded

11:00

like I feel like cabin fever

11:02

would come into play here. No,

11:04

having no window whatsoever. It

11:08

could, it could be a little

11:10

rough. Former staff member Kim

11:12

button who wrote a blog about

11:14

working on the Disney wonder wrote

11:16

that employees had staff meetings at

11:18

2 AM, which basically

11:20

was the only time people weren't working.

11:23

She also wrote that the crew pool

11:25

is one of the few places where

11:28

staff can hang out with each other

11:30

without worrying about behaving improperly in front

11:32

of guests. That's the one place

11:34

that could be. Not in Disney

11:37

like themselves or not have to

11:39

put on cause let's face it.

11:42

Some people are naturally bubbly, but

11:44

I feel like if you're working

11:46

at Disney, either at the

11:49

park or on, on the ship,

11:51

you got to put on a bubble. Oh, I

11:54

think so. Yeah. You, you, you got to

11:56

go over the top. I'm sure that's what they

11:58

expect. Hi, kid. I

12:01

don't know how many people walk

12:03

around just every day, every minute

12:05

of the day like that. Right.

12:08

The wonder is registered in the

12:10

Bahamas for tax purposes according to

12:12

the Guardian. And that's something you've

12:15

been saying for years. I mean, you register a lot

12:17

of your stuff in the Bahamas.

12:20

Absolutely. For tax purposes. I'm

12:22

sure you're happy with me disclosing

12:25

that to the IRS. I

12:27

cannot make any more comments about it. The

12:30

BBC described it as the

12:32

flags of convenience system where

12:34

ships are registered in offshore

12:36

nations. If crimes are committed

12:38

on board, it is up

12:40

to the country of registration to

12:42

investigate. This policy applies

12:44

to most countries around the world.

12:47

However, in the United States, the

12:49

FBI investigates crimes at sea involving

12:52

US citizens, no matter where

12:54

a ship is registered. Citizens

12:57

have called for an end to this system in

12:59

the UK. I like that the US

13:01

does that. And I can

13:03

understand why they would want to put

13:05

an end to it in the UK

13:07

as well. I don't know if

13:09

they have or not yet, but if

13:12

you're a citizen, I think

13:15

you would prefer to

13:17

have your government or

13:19

some enforcement agency

13:21

within your country

13:24

investigate as opposed to, I'm

13:27

not saying anything bad about the

13:29

Bahamian police or anything like that,

13:31

but I don't know. I just

13:33

think you'd want someone from your own country

13:35

to investigate the crime. I'm just thinking the

13:37

FBI is probably just going to have a

13:39

little bit more skill set. Oh,

13:42

absolutely. Rebecca appeared to be

13:44

happy with her job because she

13:46

signed a third contract for a

13:48

Vancouver to Alaska route after

13:51

she finished her assignment on the wonder.

13:53

That'd be a pretty cool cruise. Yeah,

13:55

that is one that's on my bucket

13:57

list is to take a cruise. Um,

14:00

up through Alaska, but I

14:02

do think this is important

14:04

to note, right? Signing

14:07

a third contract to

14:09

me does send

14:11

a message that she was pretty happy with

14:14

what she was doing. Cause if not, you

14:16

don't have to sign on, you can walk

14:19

away after the contract is up, but she

14:21

didn't do that. Yeah. Sounds like she was

14:23

happy and felt safe. During

14:26

her break, she planned to spend time with

14:28

her older sister. And visit Disney

14:30

in Paris. She was going to

14:33

see her parents for Easter. Sadly,

14:35

Rebecca would never get to do any

14:37

of these things because she disappeared from

14:39

the cruise ship. According to

14:41

the BBC, Rebecca was one of 18

14:44

people who went missing from cruise ships

14:46

in 2011. I

14:48

think that's a big number. Well, it

14:51

does sound like a big number. What

14:54

we don't have is the number

14:56

of passengers who

14:59

took a cruise in 2011. My

15:03

assumption is that number is really

15:05

big. Yeah. So percentage wise, it

15:08

may not be that big, but just to say 18

15:11

people disappeared, that does sound

15:13

like a large number. I

15:15

think by and large cruise ships

15:17

are generally considered safe environments, but

15:19

crimes do happen. We've covered

15:22

some before. We've seen a lot

15:25

over the years. I think when you have that many

15:28

people in one space, there's always going to

15:30

be potential for some type of crime. And

15:32

my other thought is, you know, on a

15:34

lot of these cruise ships, there's quite a

15:36

bit of alcohol. Oh yeah. You

15:39

know, a lot of people drinking, drinking

15:41

heavily, and obviously

15:43

alcohol can lead to

15:45

some altercations and

15:48

wrong doing. Cruise

15:50

ships don't hire police officers, but

15:53

they do hire security personnel. BBC

15:56

reported that this could lead to

15:58

potential conflicts of interest because. because they're

16:01

employed by the cruise line. Yeah,

16:03

so their interest is to protect

16:05

the cruise line. The Department of

16:07

Transportation releases data about crime

16:10

on cruise ships in 2023. There

16:13

were 131 reported sexual assaults, rapes

16:17

on cruise ships. This was

16:19

an increase from 89 reported in 2022. I

16:25

feel like that's a low number. So 18 people

16:27

went missing in 2011, 89

16:32

reported sexual assaults in 2022. Yeah,

16:36

yeah, you would think there would actually be

16:38

more reports than that. Now, that's

16:41

not to say that that's how many

16:43

occurred. Yeah, because it's probably self-reporting,

16:46

right? Yeah. In

16:48

November, 2023, Florida Today reported that since 2000, 386

16:53

passengers have gone overboard from

16:56

cruises and ferries. At the

16:59

time of Rebecca's disappearance in 2011, there

17:02

were 171 disappearances across

17:05

all cruise lines since

17:07

2000. Rebecca Coriam

17:09

was the first person to go

17:11

missing on a Disney cruise. Yeah,

17:14

I guess if you take in consideration, I

17:16

noticed that I thought that was a alarming

17:18

number, and I still do, but if

17:20

you take in consideration how many

17:22

people go on cruises since

17:24

2000, it

17:27

does feel like cruises are relatively

17:29

safe. Yeah, no, I think

17:31

so. Would you

17:33

think that maybe a Disney

17:36

cruise would be safer

17:38

than possibly some of

17:40

the other lines? Yeah, I think you would

17:43

feel that way. And again, I said

17:45

I've never been on a Disney cruise. My

17:47

thought is though, a lot of kids, a

17:49

lot of parents with kids, maybe a little

17:51

less partying, less young

17:53

adults, just their two party

17:55

maybe, was my thought. The

17:58

Liverpool Echo reported that... Rebecca left

18:00

the ship during an assignment to

18:03

attend a family funeral. She

18:05

confided in some close friends

18:07

that She feared being

18:09

raped or sexually assaulted on board

18:12

her friends told her parents about Rebecca's

18:14

statement after she disappeared Okay,

18:17

well, okay, that's alarming. Yeah,

18:19

it's very concerning You

18:22

know and we're gonna talk about it, but you

18:24

know, obviously her parents are going to be informed

18:26

at a certain point That

18:29

their daughter has disappeared

18:32

and then later on they're going

18:34

to be told by some of

18:36

her friends about the statement and

18:38

my thought is you know, those statements

18:40

are going to Have

18:43

a large bearing, you know on their

18:46

thought process Rebecca was

18:48

on board when the Disney Wonder

18:50

left port in Los Angeles in

18:52

March 2011

18:54

at this time the wonder

18:56

took weekly cruises from Los

18:58

Angeles to Puerto Vallarta and

19:01

Cabo San Lucas in Mexico.

19:04

Sounds like a nice cruise. Yeah. Yeah, I've

19:06

never actually been to either one of those places Porto

19:10

well, Arrata easy for you to say

19:12

I flew in there and there was a guy going Deplane,

19:15

the plane How much did you

19:17

have the drink on the on the flight in? It's

19:21

been the flight into here There

19:23

were over 3,000 passengers on the

19:26

ship and you know, that sounds

19:28

like a pretty good number But

19:31

the ship I was just on

19:33

in December Had like

19:35

8,000 that's a lot of people on a

19:37

boat. The elevator Had

19:40

like 19 floors Wow.

19:42

It was massive and it's not even one of

19:44

the new ones This

19:46

was a Royal Caribbean ship. I think one

19:48

of the new ones is over 10,000 passengers Wait,

19:53

you told me you wanted to go on this cruise

19:55

with your family just to have more alone time That's

19:57

why you couldn't take me and nothing

19:59

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Although she was busy with work,

22:22

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22:24

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22:26

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22:28

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22:34

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captured by a security camera at

22:41

5.45 a.m. on March 22. She was in the crew area

22:43

using one of the ship's

22:47

phones. Rebecca dialed an

22:49

onboard number, according to the

22:51

LA Times. She appeared upset

22:53

and at one point held her head in

22:55

her hand. At one point

22:58

a male coworker walked up to her and

23:00

asked if everything was all right. Rebecca

23:02

said, yeah, fine, and hung up the phone.

23:05

Rebecca's father, Michael Correa, spoke to the

23:07

Guardian about the security footage saying, you

23:10

see this young boy walk up to her

23:12

and ask her if she's all right. She

23:15

said, yeah, fine. Then she put the phone

23:17

down. She turned around. She had

23:19

her hands in her back pockets, which she

23:21

always did. Then she put her

23:23

hands to her head like this, pushing her

23:25

hair back. And then she walked off.

23:28

Rebecca's friends and family would

23:30

later say the security footage

23:33

suggests she was sexually assaulted and

23:36

in a state of distress. Her

23:38

parents theorized that she was

23:40

possibly thrown overboard after

23:42

she was assaulted. The footage,

23:45

though, blurry shows her back

23:47

in oversized clothes, possibly men's

23:49

clothing. According to the

23:51

Liverpool Echo, her family thinks this

23:53

is a sign that she threw

23:55

on any available clothing to escape

23:57

the cabin after she was arrested.

24:00

was assaulted. I needed a lot to

24:02

read into this. You could go a lot

24:04

of different directions, but to me, I

24:06

mean, it does sound like there was something

24:08

that had to be bothering

24:10

her to go to the

24:12

phone and dial somebody, right?

24:15

Was she dialing security? Was

24:17

she trying to get a hold of one of her friends

24:19

that was working in some department on the

24:21

ship? Maybe she was just

24:24

so stressed out of whatever

24:26

event just happened. That's why

24:28

she's putting her hands to

24:30

her face, her head. I don't

24:33

know. But I think you can

24:35

see why her family would come

24:37

to this possible theory.

24:40

Why is she wearing these oversized

24:42

clothing that possibly is

24:45

men's clothing? She appears

24:47

to be in distress. Well, obviously

24:50

you would be in distress

24:53

if you were sexually assaulted and had to throw on

24:55

whatever clothes you could find to get the hell out

24:58

of there. Hey, you're not going to waste time trying

25:00

to find what you had on. You're just going to

25:02

grab something and go. Rebecca

25:04

didn't show up for her shift at

25:06

9 a.m. The crew searched

25:08

the ship and called the Mexican Coast

25:11

Guard later that morning. The Coast

25:13

Guard searched the water near the ship but

25:15

didn't find her. A Disney

25:17

official contacted Rebecca's parents on the

25:19

evening of March 22nd to tell

25:21

them that Rebecca missed her shift

25:24

and could not be located. We

25:26

talk a lot about receiving

25:29

these types of calls. This

25:32

is a little different scenario. Number

25:34

one, you're a long

25:36

ways away from where your

25:38

daughter is. They

25:40

don't know exactly where she is, but wherever

25:43

she is, you're a long way away. And

25:45

so that helpless feeling has

25:48

to be even more intense than

25:50

most I would think. You can't even

25:52

get in your car and go do

25:54

a search. You can't do anything. I

25:57

mean, your stomach's going to be Tossed and then turned

25:59

on already. But in the think about. If. They

26:01

couldn't find her on the ship. Is. She

26:03

really in the water? Why be? it

26:05

is much different right? If you think

26:08

about somebody not showing up for work.

26:11

In the town where they live worth,

26:13

there's a lot of places. That.

26:15

That person could be. In.

26:18

and around town. There's

26:20

only so many places you can be on a

26:22

cruise. And. I'm sure they were

26:24

putting it out over the loudspeaker and

26:26

over. My. Korea. I'm sad

26:29

that they were told the investigation

26:31

is ongoing. And. They called for

26:33

up. To us. And

26:35

Mexican navy vessels searched international waters

26:37

where the wonder had been sailing

26:40

but did not find your back.

26:42

Three. Days later, Superintendent Poll Roll,

26:45

a detective from the Royal

26:47

Bahamas Police Force where the

26:49

wonders registered, flew to the

26:51

ship to conduct an investigation.

26:54

Is on board. Investigation lasted a day

26:56

and a half. My. Guinea

26:58

and Korean flew to Los Angeles

27:00

on March twenty six, two thousand

27:02

and Eleven to meet with Disney

27:04

officials and go on board. They

27:06

spoke to Superintendent Paul Role at

27:08

the Hotel. He. Gave them a

27:10

short briefing but didn't have answers due

27:12

to a lack of avid. As.

27:15

Reported by The Guardian. They asked him

27:17

as he was going back on board.

27:19

He. Responded know I'm going back

27:21

to the Bahamas. Disappointment.

27:25

On the part of the parents? Yeah,

27:27

absolutely. They. Were allowed on

27:29

board after the passengers disembark.

27:32

Disney. Officials showed the

27:34

Koreans the cctv footage

27:36

of Rebecca. The. Also, talk

27:38

to the woman she was speaking with on the

27:40

phone. The. Woman said Rebecca

27:42

was upset at first. But.

27:45

Quickly calm down. At. The

27:47

end of their conversation, she said she

27:49

was going to her tap. And

27:51

apparently she didn't provide many details.

27:54

and the koreans didn't push

27:56

her francis they felt awful

27:58

because there was several Disney officials

28:01

in the room during

28:03

their conversation. See to

28:05

me, that's a big piece of the

28:08

puzzle. What was said on the phone? Oh,

28:11

absolutely. What did Rebecca say to this

28:13

woman on the phone? I think it's

28:15

huge. The quoriums thought

28:17

that they would have more opportunities

28:19

to ask questions, but they feel

28:22

that they have not been able to

28:24

do so. And my thought is

28:26

that maybe they were thinking they'd

28:28

get a chance to talk to this woman

28:31

without Disney officials present

28:34

and that she would possibly be more

28:37

open without them there. They

28:40

were taken to the fifth deck crew

28:42

pool. The captain told them that

28:44

a pair of flip flops were found by

28:46

the pool that may have belonged

28:48

to Rebecca, but no one was certain. Just

28:51

wondering why the detective

28:54

didn't kind of walk them through this. It

28:56

sounds to me like he

28:59

was done. You know, he'd spend a

29:01

day and a half. He had checked things

29:03

out and he said, you know, I didn't

29:06

find anything. I'm going back to the Bahamas. But

29:08

this also was the citizen of the

29:11

Bahamas who had gone missing. And

29:13

I'm not putting, you know, this guy

29:15

down or saying anything bad against him.

29:18

I'm just saying, you know, what sense

29:20

of urgency was there? Or

29:22

was it just that there was nothing

29:24

to go on? Oh, it could have been

29:26

that too, right? I'm wondering what

29:29

the girl that she talked to on the

29:31

phone told him. Assuming he

29:33

interviewed her. That's the thing, right? We don't,

29:36

we don't know what his investigation involved.

29:39

Officials proposed the theory that Rebecca

29:41

was swept overboard in the pool

29:43

area by a way. The

29:45

quoriums noticed a high steel wall behind

29:48

the railings, which caused them to have

29:50

doubts about this theory. Additionally, a weather

29:53

analysis showed that the ocean was calm

29:55

at the time of Rebecca's disappearance.

29:58

And I think there would be some. type of

30:01

evidence to support that. You know, like there was

30:03

other people, 3,000 people on the boat. Did

30:07

no other crew member, did no

30:09

other passenger see

30:11

this rogue wave? Yeah, it's a good point.

30:14

When Rebecca's parents were taken to her

30:16

cabin to collect her belongings, they noticed

30:18

a pair of flip-flops placed neatly on

30:21

top of Rebecca's suitcase inside

30:24

her wardrobe. The flip-flops

30:26

were not collected for any type

30:28

of forensic examination, but it

30:30

was said that they were a size and a half

30:32

too small for Rebecca. Her

30:35

friends never saw her wearing them. They

30:37

had a name and cabin number written

30:39

on the side. That was not

30:41

Rebecca's. It was normal for crew

30:43

members to ride on their shoes so they

30:46

didn't lose them. Okay, that

30:48

seems pretty mysterious. Yeah.

30:51

Mike and Anne also noticed that

30:53

a pair of Rebecca shorts were

30:55

ripped, which led them to believe

30:57

she was in some type of

30:59

violent struggle. Now there is

31:01

a lot of speculation here. Yes.

31:03

But I understand how that could

31:06

happen or why that would happen on the

31:08

part of the parents. They're not

31:10

buying this rogue wave theory and

31:13

you see a pair of your daughter's shorts

31:16

ripped. You have this thought

31:18

that potentially she was sexually

31:20

assaulted. You can see where all this is

31:22

going in their mind. Yeah, I mean, I

31:25

think you can also come up with

31:27

some other reasons why the shorts could be ripped, but yeah,

31:29

absolutely. If that's where

31:31

you're thinking, then that plays into that. Mike

31:34

and Anne told the BBC they asked for

31:37

a copy of the CCTV footage and were

31:39

told no. They did not get

31:41

to ask the crew any questions. According

31:43

to articles by the LA

31:46

Times and Cruz Law News,

31:48

Disney claimed to have no

31:50

footage of Rebecca going overboard

31:52

and they declined to disclose

31:54

the number of security cameras

31:56

or their locations for security

31:58

reasons. And It's the one in the. The

32:00

questions that I had was

32:02

your how much of one

32:04

of these big cruise ships.

32:06

Is. In some type of

32:09

blind spot where there is

32:11

no security. Camera. Watching.

32:14

There was a technology that we have.

32:17

You. Would think. Most. Of

32:19

the ship bound side of people's

32:21

personal rooms and stuff like that.

32:24

Would. Be. Video. Maybe.

32:27

These cruise ships don't want to

32:29

disclose. How many cameras? Guess maybe

32:31

we. Would. Be shocked to see how

32:33

low the number is. There could be. My.

32:36

Guinea and also looked around the

32:39

dock in Los Angels and spoke

32:41

to a worker. The worker said

32:43

he remembered seeing where back a

32:45

loading her luggage and Rebecca allegedly

32:47

said you never song. Per.

32:50

The Bbc. Less interesting,

32:52

Ways. True. It

32:54

seems to take things and a

32:57

much different direction. But. Then you're

32:59

thinking. Then. What? See

33:01

decide to leave the cruise. In

33:04

Go On. The. Run. And.

33:06

Not and former parents. Boy.

33:08

In, you'd also have to answer the

33:11

question. Of. How

33:13

she got off the cruise ship.

33:16

In. Our. When. They.

33:18

Were searching for her. The.

33:20

Tickets be very hard to get pass

33:22

all the. People. On.

33:25

The cruise ship. And security and

33:27

any cameras that happen to

33:29

be around. And see just

33:32

spotted by this one worker. Say.

33:34

It does seem strange. The. Bahamian

33:37

Police had concluded there inquiry

33:39

by March twenty nine. Superintendent.

33:42

Paul Roll. From. The Role

33:44

Bahamas Police Force issued the

33:46

following statement published by Bbc.

33:49

With. Respect to the investigation

33:51

into the disappearance of Miss

33:53

Rebecca Koreans from the Disney

33:55

Wonder. Crucial. the royal

33:58

bahamas police has concluded its

34:00

investigation on board the vessel

34:03

at the present time. There is no

34:05

evidence to suggest foul play. The

34:07

case remains open and under

34:10

active investigation. And I'll be

34:12

honest with you, that statement doesn't surprise me

34:14

at all. Now we don't know,

34:16

like I said, how

34:18

good his investigation was. You

34:22

could understand that he came away with

34:24

it with no evidence. Look,

34:26

if you don't have anything that's going

34:28

to lead you to believe it's foul play,

34:31

any evidence, what else can you say? You

34:33

just have to say that it's going to remain open and

34:36

under active investigation. But

34:38

how active is that investigation going

34:40

to be? Probably not that

34:43

active. How active can it be?

34:45

Because again, we're not talking

34:47

about a local police

34:49

force in a town. We're

34:52

talking about a police force in

34:54

a different country. With a potential

34:57

crime scene that happened

34:59

on a ship that moves around all

35:02

over the place. That's putting 3000 people

35:04

on it every week. Yes. You

35:06

know, so that's the crime scene. It's being

35:09

contaminated week in

35:11

week out. Yeah, it's a

35:13

very different situation than most

35:15

cases. In early May, 2011, Rebecca's

35:19

bank sent her parents an email

35:21

informing them that someone tried to

35:23

gain access to one of her

35:25

accounts on April 19th. I

35:28

think if you're her parents, what do you think? You

35:30

know, is this her and she

35:32

really is out there alive,

35:35

trying to get some money? If

35:37

so, why wouldn't she be able to access

35:39

her accounts? Right. Or is this

35:42

somebody just trying to hack

35:44

into her account, something that we all experience

35:46

all the time, or is it somebody that

35:48

harmed her? The website

35:50

international cruise victims reported that

35:53

Rebecca's card was not found

35:55

among her belongings in her

35:57

cabin. Mike Corium told a

35:59

British. newspaper, the fact that her

36:01

credit card's been used could only mean

36:04

someone has stolen it or she stole

36:06

a lot. So I mean, I

36:08

think that right there tells you where his thinking

36:10

was. Months later in

36:13

September 2011, one of

36:15

Rebecca's uncles said the password to

36:17

her Facebook account had been changed.

36:20

No one knows who changed it. These

36:22

are very mysterious things that are happening.

36:24

Yeah. I mean, if it was her

36:27

and she didn't want to be found, why

36:29

would she change that? Why wouldn't she just like, you

36:32

know, let the count do whatever

36:34

it's going to do when it's inactive? Just leave

36:36

it alone. Yeah. But also,

36:39

why would somebody

36:41

else want to change it? Let's

36:43

say someone who had hurt

36:46

her or had something to do with

36:48

her disappearance. What would be

36:50

the motivation for them to want

36:52

to change her Facebook

36:55

password other than wanting

36:57

to make people think she was still

36:59

alive and possibly the

37:02

same thing with using her card?

37:04

Sure. It gets them thinking that,

37:06

like you said, she's still alive doing

37:09

her own thing and it had nothing to

37:11

do with her being on the cruise. In

37:14

October 2011, Guardian

37:16

journalist John Ronson booked a trip

37:18

on the Disney Wonder to try

37:21

to get information about Rebecca's disappearance.

37:24

Multiple crew members spoke to him

37:26

on the condition of anonymity. When

37:29

Ronson spoke to a waiter and asked

37:31

about the disappearance of Rebecca Correa, the

37:33

man said, I don't know

37:35

anything about it. It didn't happen. You

37:38

know that's the answer I have to get.

37:41

And that's a very strange statement

37:44

that would lead one to believe

37:46

that there was a lot of

37:48

pressure put on by

37:51

the corporation not to

37:53

talk about this incident. Yeah,

37:56

there could have been an unofficial

37:59

official. Communication on

38:01

what to say if asked and what

38:03

not to say and what not to say. Ronson

38:06

came to the conclusion that rebekah

38:08

fell from the deck for jogging

38:10

track because every other

38:12

possible occasion had railings that were

38:14

too high. We talked

38:16

about it right rebekah was known

38:19

for enjoying exercise and she was

38:21

a frequent jogger ronson theorize

38:23

that after she got off the phone she went

38:25

for a jog and fell. He

38:28

noticed four cctv cameras

38:30

on deck four ronson

38:32

talk to a crew member working on deck

38:34

four and asked if the girl who went

38:36

missing in march fell from that deck he

38:39

said no she went from deck five.

38:42

When ronson pointed out that there was

38:44

no outside space on deck five the

38:46

crew member said go to

38:48

deck ten walk to the front

38:50

of the ship and look down you'll see

38:52

the crew swimming pool that's where

38:54

she went from the starboard side.

38:57

When he asked how the crew member knew

38:59

this demand responded i was on the ship

39:01

that day everyone knows the

39:03

worker mentioned that they found

39:05

rebekah slipper. Ronson saw

39:08

the crew swimming pool from deck ten

39:10

there is no ocean view because the

39:13

railings are behind the steel wall that

39:15

goes above head height and i

39:17

think that can it goes back to the quarium

39:20

thinking how could she

39:22

have just gone overboard from here very

39:25

difficult. When ronson spoke to

39:27

the same crew member from deck four

39:30

he was told that crew members only

39:32

sleeping shower in their cab they spend

39:34

their free time in the mess hall

39:36

or by the crew pool. I

39:38

think that goes back to your point you know

39:41

how much time do you really

39:43

want to spend in the small room

39:45

with no window in a much when

39:48

ronson spoke to more crew members. He

39:50

received the same response that were back

39:53

a jump from the front of deck

39:55

five after crew pool one crew

39:57

member said disney knows

39:59

exactly. What happens that phone call

40:01

she had it was taped everything

40:04

here is tape. There's CCTV

40:06

everywhere. Disney has

40:08

the tape. That's a pretty

40:11

big allegation to make. Well, it

40:13

really is pointing

40:15

to some type of coverup.

40:18

Now we have no idea if this crew member

40:21

knows what they're talking about or if they're

40:23

correct or anything like that. But if they

40:25

are and all

40:27

phone calls are taped and

40:29

there was CCTV footage, then what else

40:32

could you think? But that, you know,

40:34

something happened that the organization

40:37

didn't want to get out because

40:39

it would tarnish their

40:42

reputation or, you know, something like

40:44

that. Yeah, definitely wouldn't be good for

40:46

him. This crew member introduced

40:48

Ronson to one of Rebecca's close

40:50

friends on board. Rebecca's friend

40:52

said he didn't know. What

40:55

was in the security tape, but he knew

40:57

she was having a fight with her partner.

40:59

He described her back as

41:01

a lovely girl with underlying

41:03

sadness. Another crew member

41:06

told Ronson that suicide wasn't the

41:08

only possibility and it's possible Rebecca

41:10

went overboard because of the wind.

41:13

He said, I was on

41:15

the ship that day. It was a rocky day.

41:18

So there is a discrepancy here,

41:21

uh, just what the conditions were, right?

41:23

This person is saying it was

41:25

windy. It was choppy. It

41:27

was rocky. And you know,

41:30

other sources are saying that

41:33

the weather from that day wasn't, wasn't bad

41:35

at all. Yeah. Unless you have video

41:37

evidence of what the weather was like, it's going to

41:39

be difficult to prove. But wouldn't you

41:41

have that on a video somewhere?

41:44

You would think that's, that's

41:46

the part that, that

41:48

I struggle with in this case

41:50

so far is that just

41:53

exactly what video did

41:55

they have. And like you said, what exactly

41:58

was. about in the

42:01

phone call. Yeah, I think the cruise

42:03

line probably had some video of what the weather

42:05

was like that day and I would think out

42:07

of the 3,000 people on board

42:10

that a few of those would have had some

42:13

video of the weather that day. Ronson

42:16

called Disney and received the

42:18

following statement from a spokesperson,

42:20

if you talk to crew members

42:22

you know Rebecca's disappearance has been

42:24

difficult and heartbreaking for everyone. The

42:27

police in the Bahamas were also

42:29

telling us the investigation is still

42:31

ongoing. They have not shared a

42:33

timeline with us either. Again,

42:35

I don't know how much

42:39

of an investigation the

42:41

police in the Bahamas could be doing later

42:44

on. It's a

42:46

different cruise. Yeah, I don't know what

42:48

their incentive would be at this point. They

42:50

didn't really come away from their last investigation

42:52

with anything that was going to require

42:55

them to go back for another look. After

42:57

Ronson left the ship, a woman

43:00

identified as Melissa, a

43:02

fake name used by the Guardian, called

43:04

him and said she last saw Rebecca

43:06

at 11 p.m. the night before she

43:08

went missing. They had just finished

43:11

work and were chatting in a

43:13

secret corridor. Rebecca asked her

43:15

if she was going to the bar.

43:17

Melissa said yes, but she never went.

43:19

This was the last time she saw

43:21

Rebecca. When asked about

43:23

an alleged fight between Rebecca and

43:25

her partner, Melissa said that

43:28

ship absolutely ceased with rumors.

43:30

Yes, she was in a

43:32

relationship and there were problems

43:35

and it was upsetting her. It was

43:37

a very, very intense relationship.

43:39

It was great and then it was awful.

43:42

They were both fiery, passionate

43:44

personality. However, Melissa noted that

43:47

from what she had heard, Rebecca

43:49

was on the phone with a mutual

43:51

friend and not the girl she

43:53

was in a relationship with. Melissa

43:56

mentioned that after Rebecca disappeared,

43:59

Disney officials conducted a small

44:01

ceremony and put flowers on the wall

44:03

next to the crew pool, they

44:05

didn't answer questions about why

44:08

they put the flowers there. Melissa

44:10

alleged Disney swears they've

44:12

told us everything they know, which is

44:14

that they don't know anything. But

44:16

most of us think bullshit. Someone

44:19

must know something. Someone's

44:21

covering something up. And

44:23

these are interesting takes

44:25

by different people. And he

44:27

had the one guy who said, you

44:30

know, that's what I have to say. That

44:32

kind of hinted at, you know, something

44:35

along the lines of, well, I know

44:37

something, but this is what I have

44:39

to say. I have to tow the

44:41

company line. And now

44:43

you have Melissa saying they're covering

44:46

something up. Obviously the

44:48

family feels that way. Melissa

44:51

did acknowledge that Rebecca was a risk

44:53

taker. She speculated that Rebecca

44:55

went to the pool to be alone and

44:58

had no intention of harming herself.

45:01

She might've climbed on the wall and sat on

45:03

the ledge for the view and

45:05

then accidentally fell. Well, especially if the

45:07

seas were rough that night. Yeah,

45:10

I get it. You know, you you're

45:12

sitting on this ledge. Things

45:14

get a little rocky, accidentally

45:16

fall off. No one knows.

45:18

Melissa then added security on that

45:20

ship is ultra tight. You

45:23

can't get on or off without your

45:25

ID card down by the crew

45:27

pool. There's HR offices,

45:29

the crew gym, the crew

45:31

office that deals with passports,

45:33

money documentation. And

45:35

they're saying there's no CCTV

45:37

cameras. That seems a little

45:40

unlikely. Yeah, it does

45:42

to me too. It also to

45:44

me kind of really

45:46

makes the allegation

45:49

that Rebecca got

45:51

off in LA, loaded up

45:53

her car and told the guy you never saw

45:55

me. And Melissa saying you can't

45:57

get on or off without ID. Everybody

46:00

who's been on a cruise knows

46:02

that that's the biggest pain of a

46:04

cruise. Right. Is getting on and off.

46:07

The embarking and debarking. Hey, how about

46:09

that? Yeah. Good words.

46:12

I mean, you got a fingerprint

46:14

scan, show your ID,

46:17

give a left kidney, go

46:19

through a metal detector,

46:22

take an MRI before they let you

46:24

back on. In the anal probe. Now,

46:27

I wasn't on that cruise. You

46:29

must've signed up for a different one. But

46:32

Melissa is really big on the CCTV

46:34

camera and basically saying

46:37

she's having a hard time believing that,

46:40

you know, not a single camera with

46:43

all the cameras on that ship

46:45

captured something. And I find it hard to believe

46:47

too. I really find it hard to believe

46:49

that there was nothing down there

46:51

where the crew pool was and the

46:53

HR office and

46:56

where they process money and

46:58

documents and passports. I

47:00

would think that would be a prime area for

47:02

a camera if not many

47:05

cameras. She continued saying

47:08

if it was 6am and they were doing

47:10

their job and watching the front, someone

47:13

must have seen her go over. Or if

47:15

they didn't, they're covering up why

47:17

they did. At a meeting

47:19

of the House of Commons on November 1st,

47:21

2011, MP

47:24

Steven Mosley said Disney was

47:26

more interested in getting the ship back

47:28

to sea than in the case

47:30

of a missing crew member. He said

47:32

it was appalling that only one

47:34

officer from the Bahamas was called

47:37

to investigate. And I

47:39

can understand what he's saying. And I think

47:41

if you're the family, you would

47:43

be very upset by that. One

47:45

person who has nothing to do with

47:48

the country you live in, the country

47:50

where your daughter is

47:52

a citizen, comes

47:55

to the ship, investigates, and then

47:58

goes back to the Bahamas. But is

48:00

that Disney's fault if they

48:03

called the acting authorities

48:05

and the authorities choose to only send one

48:08

investigator. No I'm not saying that

48:10

part is Disney's fault because I do think

48:12

that's what they were supposed to

48:14

do now if they

48:16

had more evidence if they had camera

48:19

footage if they had anything like that

48:21

and they didn't disclose it then obviously

48:23

that would be their fault. The

48:25

core and said they did not

48:28

receive a final report and little

48:30

evidence was disclosed to them they

48:32

want said that the Cheshire police

48:34

did speak with the Bahamian authorities

48:37

but the British police did not

48:39

do their own investigation because of

48:41

a lack of jurisdiction. The

48:44

Cheshire police received an interim

48:46

report which was totally and

48:48

utterly unsatisfactory in their words

48:50

and they were told not to disclose the

48:53

contents to the family. I don't

48:55

know why they can't disclose what was in the file.

48:57

Oh I took it as they could but there

49:00

was no reason to because

49:02

the report was so

49:04

bad that it would only. Infuriate

49:07

the family that's the way I

49:09

took it I could be wrong one

49:12

day before the anniversary of

49:14

Rebecca's disappearance her father

49:16

received an email from a woman who

49:18

said she was eighty five percent sure.

49:21

She saw Rebecca with a dark haired

49:23

man and then the previous August the

49:26

woman claim she saw the family's website

49:28

and it triggered her memory. 85

49:31

percent but if you're hoping for something a five

49:34

percent probably a lot it is but I

49:37

think you know also in these cases

49:39

there are a lot of sightings. Can

49:42

we talk about them quite a

49:44

bit in unsolved cases a lot

49:47

of them are checked out a lot of them are proven

49:49

not to be true. I

49:51

think for the most part it's not

49:54

you know out of malice on anyone's

49:56

part or anything like that they

49:58

just think that. They saw

50:01

someone and they could be mistake.

50:03

I mean, if it was her and

50:05

she's doing this to her family,

50:08

it's a really terrible thing to do. Well,

50:10

yeah, it would be a terrible thing to do. I

50:12

think what we'd have to

50:14

go back to is why would

50:17

she need to do that? There

50:19

was nothing in the

50:21

research about problems with

50:23

her family that would make

50:25

you think she would need to or

50:28

want to cut off all

50:30

communication with them disappear.

50:33

I didn't get that at all. Rebecca's

50:35

uncle said it was upsetting to think

50:38

she could be out there after all

50:40

that time had passed, but he did

50:42

note her passport was among her belongings

50:45

on the ship. Yeah, so she

50:47

wouldn't need that to travel. I mean, could

50:49

you get a fake passport?

50:52

Yeah, but how hard is that going to be?

50:55

In March 2014, it was reported that

50:57

Mike and Anne Coriam plan to sue

50:59

Disney for $75,000, 45,000 pounds. The

51:05

Coriams alleged that Disney failed in its

51:07

duty of care. The family

51:09

alleged that Disney acted negligently

51:12

by waiting over four hours

51:14

to alert the U.S. Coast

51:16

Guard more than five hours

51:18

to contact the Mexican Navy

51:20

and almost seven hours to

51:22

call the Bahamian police. They

51:24

alleged that Disney had inadequate

51:26

security to monitor crew members

51:28

and passengers and inadequate surveillance

51:30

for a person falling overboard.

51:33

A Disney Cruise Line spokeswoman

51:35

said per BBC, this incident has

51:37

been investigated by the authorities.

51:40

The claims are without merit, as

51:42

we will demonstrate in court. In

51:44

April 2016, it was reported that Disney

51:47

settled with the Coriam family out of

51:49

court at some point in 2015, and

51:53

I thought that actually that amount

51:55

was pretty low. Yeah, it is. Especially

51:58

for a company like that. like Disney,

52:01

$75,000 to them

52:04

is like a penny falling

52:06

out of your pocket. Yeah. Not even.

52:09

Why would they want to fight that

52:11

in court and go through

52:13

the discovery process

52:15

and possibly have to

52:19

turn over things that they may not want to

52:21

turn over? Yeah. And just to go

52:23

through that process alone, they're probably going to spend

52:26

way more than $75,000. In

52:28

legal fees. Yeah. So

52:31

yeah, that kind of struck

52:33

me when they said we're going to demonstrate

52:35

that in court. I mean, as

52:37

you and I have seen many times, even

52:40

companies that believe they're on the right

52:43

side of a lawsuit

52:45

will settle just because it's

52:48

cheaper, easier in their

52:50

best interest. And how will it look to the

52:52

public? Yeah. I think Disney, as

52:55

much as any other company in the world

52:57

does not want bad press. No, there's

52:59

something to be said about your reputation

53:02

and protecting it. In November, 2015,

53:05

Chester MP Chris Matheson confirmed

53:07

that his team

53:09

believed there was criminal activity

53:12

behind Rebecca's disappearance. And

53:14

this is pretty interesting. We've kind of hinted

53:16

at it a little bit, but this is

53:18

the first time that an

53:21

official is coming out and

53:24

actually saying they believe

53:26

there was some type of criminal activity.

53:29

Bill Anderson, a private investigator

53:31

hired by the family, spoke

53:33

to the Liverpool echo about

53:35

the flip flops found on the ship. He

53:38

said, we've obtained photos of

53:40

flip flops given to Rebecca's parents,

53:42

which we are a hundred percent

53:44

sure don't belong to her. We've

53:47

been told staff would allow them to

53:49

write their name and cabin number on

53:51

them to prevent getting lost. As

53:54

everyone can see, it's not

53:56

Rebecca's signature and definitely not her

53:58

cabin number. Mike and Anne

54:01

were given flip flops belonging to

54:03

a completely different person. That

54:05

throws Disney's theory that those flip flops

54:07

were found on Deck 5 near

54:10

to where they say she fell off into

54:13

major doubt. In 2016, it

54:15

was reported that UK officials

54:17

planned to visit LA and

54:19

the Bahamas to pursue an

54:22

independent investigation. That

54:24

year, private detectives drafted a

54:27

list of potential murder suspects

54:29

in 2017. The media

54:32

reported on a copy of

54:34

the Bahamian Police Investigators' notes

54:36

after he interviewed Rebecca's girlfriend

54:39

and a male crew member. The

54:41

notes were sent by the UK's Foreign

54:43

and Commonwealth Office to Mike and Anne

54:46

Correa. The notes stated, per the

54:48

mirror, American woman in

54:50

relationship with Rebecca left

54:53

to get more beer, came back

54:55

and Rebecca and male crew

54:57

member, who was in a

54:59

relationship with the American woman, chatting.

55:02

She came back and all three went

55:04

to male crew member's room. Male

55:06

crew member had sex with both. American

55:09

woman left the room again to get beer,

55:12

came back and Rebecca and male crew

55:14

member had sex. So this

55:16

is a kind of a shocking revelation.

55:19

This is pretty critical information. It

55:22

also helps explain why she might

55:24

have been seen wearing men's clothes

55:26

or what were thought to be men's

55:28

clothes. But this investigator

55:31

is saying, Rebecca and this woman

55:34

were in a relationship. This

55:37

man and this

55:39

woman were in a relationship

55:41

and all three of them had

55:43

sex together that night together

55:46

and apart. The detective

55:48

noted that the male crew

55:50

member had a very nonchalant

55:52

attitude during questioning. He

55:55

was laughing and joking and even

55:57

had to be given a warning. a

56:00

red flag for me. I get

56:02

it, there are people who just don't

56:04

take anything seriously. But

56:08

if you're being questioned about

56:10

a missing person, I

56:12

just don't see where you're laughing and

56:14

joking about any

56:17

of the answers that you're giving or

56:19

at any point during the interview. Yeah,

56:21

it's a time to be very serious. It

56:23

just seems like behavior that doesn't fit

56:26

the situation. The Coriems and

56:28

private investigator Bill Anderson said they

56:30

believe something happened to Rebecca because

56:33

she wouldn't agree to an open

56:35

relationship with the crew members. In

56:38

2017, Rebecca's former girlfriend

56:41

Tracy Medley broke her silence

56:43

and theorized Rebecca jumped to her

56:45

death. Tracy told The Sun

56:48

UK that Rebecca had talked

56:50

about suicide before. Tracy

56:52

said Rebecca was in turmoil because

56:54

she was raped as a teenager.

56:57

She also claimed that Rebecca

57:00

used cocaine. There is

57:02

a lot going on here.

57:04

And this is the

57:07

woman who you wanted to hear from.

57:10

You wanted to know what

57:12

she had to say about that night.

57:15

And what did she say? Her theory was

57:17

that Rebecca jumped to her

57:19

death. She claimed that she had

57:21

been raped, but she also said that she

57:24

used cocaine. And she may or

57:26

she may not have not. I don't know,

57:28

but that could make her act a little

57:30

different. Yeah, it also seems like a strange

57:33

thing to throw into an interview, I guess.

57:35

Well, since her body has never been found,

57:38

obviously they have no idea what was in her system.

57:41

Tracy said, I have nothing to hide. My

57:44

silence was never an admission of

57:46

guilt. My silence was to protect

57:48

the image of a friend. I've

57:50

spent six years reading bullshit claims

57:52

from Rebecca's family that she was

57:54

a fun loving, never sad athlete

57:56

with no issues and a love

57:58

for life. her disappearance to

58:01

them could not possibly be due

58:03

to suicide. Someone needed to

58:05

be blamed for this. Unfortunately, they

58:07

saw that opportunity with me. Rebecca

58:10

felt like a misfit. She felt that

58:12

her family was ashamed that she was

58:14

a lesbian. She once mentioned

58:17

how her sister was embarrassed of the

58:19

new friend she started to hang out

58:21

with. And unfortunately, we have this in many

58:23

cases. People don't

58:26

see situations the

58:29

same way. The

58:31

family sees Rebecca

58:33

one way. But Tracy

58:35

is painting a very different

58:37

picture of

58:39

Rebecca and how she was

58:42

feeling. And people can be like

58:44

that. They can be this one person

58:47

and portray this as how they

58:49

are with their family. But when they're with their

58:51

friends or their lover, they

58:53

can be somebody different, somebody else. So

58:56

both Tracy and the family could

58:58

be correct in that scenario.

59:00

Yeah. But it's also possible

59:03

that Rebecca could have been

59:05

more open with Tracy than

59:07

she felt comfortable being

59:09

open with her family. We

59:11

just don't know. I think

59:13

this is also, you know, assuming

59:15

Tracy is telling the truth. You

59:18

always have to have that

59:20

disclaimer with anyone

59:23

who's talking about, you know, someone or

59:25

something having to do with the case.

59:28

Tracy said she met Rebecca in 2010 while

59:32

working on a cruise ship. They attended

59:34

the same party. They flirted with

59:36

each other the whole night and

59:38

were inseparable after that. Soon

59:41

after they started their romantic

59:43

relationship, Tracy found out Rebecca

59:45

used cocaine. She

59:48

went through Rebecca's phone and saw

59:50

a text where she asked someone if

59:52

they had more cocaine because she needed

59:54

some. Rebecca was angry with

59:56

her for going through her phone. So

59:58

if you believe Tracy, you go back to the phone. Rebecca was a

1:00:00

cocaine user. Yes. We don't know

1:00:03

how much, but back

1:00:05

to your point, is it

1:00:07

possible that she was using that night?

1:00:10

We have no idea, but you have to keep that

1:00:12

in play. Tracy asks Rebecca

1:00:14

what kind of rush cocaine gave

1:00:16

her. Rebecca said she thought it

1:00:18

had damaged her, so she didn't use it

1:00:20

as often as she used to. Tracy

1:00:23

admitted that Rebecca was frustrated by

1:00:25

her lack of commitment. Tracy

1:00:28

had a boyfriend named Devin Hyde, who

1:00:30

was a bar man on the ship. He

1:00:32

was on shore leave when she

1:00:34

met Rebecca. When Devin returned

1:00:36

to the ship, he and Tracy

1:00:39

continued their relationship. Rebecca

1:00:41

was devastated. Rebecca was

1:00:43

upset with Tracy the night before she

1:00:45

went missing. She drank alcohol

1:00:47

that night. Tracy tried

1:00:49

to walk her back to her

1:00:51

room and Rebecca screamed, cried, hit

1:00:54

herself in the face and

1:00:56

banged her head. Against the steel walls of

1:00:58

the ship, it took four people to

1:01:00

calm her down and she was carried

1:01:02

to Tracy's room. Rebecca woke Tracy

1:01:05

up and said she felt like

1:01:07

a failure because she wasn't brave

1:01:09

enough to jump off the ship.

1:01:11

Tracy told her the fact that she

1:01:13

didn't go through it proved she had

1:01:15

something to live for. I mean,

1:01:18

you know, this is really painting a much

1:01:21

different picture. Yeah. Of

1:01:24

what Rebecca Coriam was

1:01:26

going through. Then I think the

1:01:29

picture her family had in their

1:01:31

minds of her at the time. And

1:01:34

it's very sad. If this is true, it's

1:01:36

very sad. On the evening

1:01:39

of March 20th, Rebecca drank with Tracy

1:01:41

and Devin and they had

1:01:43

a threesome in Devin's room, which

1:01:45

Tracy claimed was initiated by Rebecca.

1:01:48

At one point, Tracy was dozing

1:01:50

off and Rebecca said they

1:01:52

should leave Devin's room. She

1:01:54

asked Tracy to go for a walk with her and

1:01:56

Tracy said, no, Rebecca wanted to put

1:01:58

some clothes on before. she left, so

1:02:00

Tracy asked Devin to give her something to

1:02:03

wear. And this kind

1:02:05

of leads us back to what

1:02:07

we've been talking about. Rebecca

1:02:09

being captured on CCTV wearing

1:02:12

what looked like baggy men's

1:02:14

clothing. Tracy said she left

1:02:16

the door unlocked so Rebecca could come

1:02:18

back into the room. She

1:02:20

realized something was wrong when she

1:02:23

woke up and realized Rebecca never

1:02:25

returned. Tracy told the son.

1:02:27

People thought there was something sinister going

1:02:29

on, but I never left that room.

1:02:32

I have a wonderful husband and

1:02:34

a beautiful child, but people have this

1:02:36

perception of me that just isn't true.

1:02:39

I just want to clear my name. I

1:02:41

have nothing to hide. I never

1:02:43

did anything to physically harm Rebecca.

1:02:46

My gut tells me she jumped

1:02:48

only because there were previous attempts.

1:02:51

Michael Coriam told the son that he

1:02:53

couldn't come on Tracy's

1:02:55

claim. And I think for

1:02:57

the Coriam family, some of

1:02:59

this had to be very tough to

1:03:01

hear. And my assumption is

1:03:03

they probably didn't believe a

1:03:06

lot of. Yeah, I don't know if you'd

1:03:08

ever want to believe that, right? That your

1:03:10

daughter was hurting like that and

1:03:12

your daughter couldn't be

1:03:15

the person she wanted to be when she

1:03:17

was around you based off of what Tracy

1:03:20

was saying. It'd be hard to handle that. And

1:03:23

maybe it's just because they didn't

1:03:25

know. They never saw. She

1:03:27

didn't disclose some

1:03:29

of these issues to them. I don't

1:03:31

know. I don't know what all was

1:03:33

going on. And again, a lot of

1:03:36

this hinges on the

1:03:39

truthfulness of the statements made by

1:03:41

Tracy. Yeah. Could she be

1:03:43

saying what she's saying just to

1:03:45

cover herself? Something up. Yeah. I

1:03:48

think that's a possibility that you

1:03:50

have to look at. You

1:03:52

can't completely discount it. You know, as

1:03:54

we wrap this one up, Rebecca Coriam

1:03:57

disappeared 13 years ago. conclusion

1:04:00

seems to be that she

1:04:02

was swept overboard by a weight. On

1:04:05

deck 5, her family and

1:04:08

private investigators fear there was criminal

1:04:10

activity. Behind her disappearance, there doesn't

1:04:12

seem to be any conclusive proof

1:04:15

to support this. The

1:04:17

exact cause of Rebecca's disappearance

1:04:19

remains a mystery. And

1:04:21

I don't know how they'll ever get to the

1:04:24

bottom of it. If there really

1:04:26

is nothing that captured

1:04:30

what happened to her on tape,

1:04:32

unless somebody comes out and makes some

1:04:34

kind of confession. I

1:04:37

will say this, I do have

1:04:39

trouble with the rogue wave theory. Just

1:04:42

based on what

1:04:44

everybody was saying about the

1:04:46

really, really high walls behind

1:04:48

that crew pool, that

1:04:50

part is a little hard

1:04:53

to go with. So

1:04:55

what are the most

1:04:57

likely theories that she jumped

1:04:59

overboard, which her family absolutely

1:05:01

does not believe, Tracy

1:05:04

believes that's what happened. If

1:05:06

you believe Tracy, when she says

1:05:08

that Rebecca was suicidal,

1:05:11

had even talked about jumping

1:05:13

overboard before, was also drunk.

1:05:17

And then the other thing that

1:05:19

you have to look at is something

1:05:21

criminal happening. And

1:05:24

whether that had something

1:05:26

to do with Tracy and Devin, the

1:05:30

kind of triangle that was going on

1:05:32

there or someone else. Could

1:05:35

have been somebody else. Completely

1:05:37

unrelated to them or another

1:05:41

crew member, maybe even a passenger that

1:05:43

hasn't been brought up

1:05:45

in the investigation. I think

1:05:47

all you can do is speculate, right? That's all

1:05:49

you can do in a case like this. I

1:05:51

mean, it is tragic, no matter how

1:05:54

it went down, but that's it for

1:05:56

our episode on Rebecca Coriam. We've got

1:05:58

some voicemails, Gibbs. Do you want to check those

1:06:00

out? Let's hear them. Take the last train

1:06:03

to Clarksville and I'll meet you at

1:06:05

the station. You can't beat it by

1:06:07

a poor study because I

1:06:09

made your reservation. Don't miss it

1:06:12

all. Oh, no, no, no. Oh,

1:06:15

no, no, no. And

1:06:17

I don't know if I'm ever

1:06:19

coming home. Also, I

1:06:21

can't believe you've said Clarksville this many times

1:06:24

and no one has broken into song. And TV

1:06:26

hasn't mentioned that time he was in

1:06:28

that boy band. He was that teenage

1:06:30

heartthrob. I remember being

1:06:33

picked. He was the spitting image of Mickey

1:06:35

Dolan's, the only musically talented guy in

1:06:37

the group. Yeah, I'm only

1:06:39

like 40 minutes in, so maybe

1:06:41

there's still some singing. Yeah. Be

1:06:44

safe and keep your own time taken. Love

1:06:46

it. A little serenading. Yeah. But she's right.

1:06:49

We probably forgot to talk about a few

1:06:51

things. I didn't make the connection with Clarksville,

1:06:53

to be honest with you. I

1:06:55

was just there. Where are you? At the train station.

1:06:58

At 4.30? Mm-hmm. OK. Waiting.

1:07:02

I'm still waiting for the rest

1:07:04

of my boy band. Hey,

1:07:07

Mike and Gibby. This is Josh

1:07:10

from Hebron, Ohio,

1:07:12

just east of Columbus. Thought

1:07:15

I had a call. I've got

1:07:17

all the way caught up on regular

1:07:20

T-cat. Working

1:07:22

my way through, getting finished up

1:07:25

on true crime all the

1:07:27

time, Unsolved. Love

1:07:30

the show, guys. Keep up the good

1:07:32

work. I've got one down around my

1:07:34

area, maybe she does look into. It

1:07:37

is, I know there is a

1:07:39

man already known as the 22

1:07:41

caliber killer, but these guys

1:07:43

are known as the 22 caliber killers.

1:07:46

They're from down here around New

1:07:48

York, Ohio. Gary

1:07:51

and Thaddeus Lewinden. It'll

1:07:55

be kind of interesting to see what you guys can find

1:07:58

on it. I'm

1:08:00

totally T cat. Love

1:08:03

you guys and

1:08:05

keep up the good work and keep her own

1:08:07

time ticking. Bye. And I'm

1:08:09

team gimme. What? Did

1:08:12

you hear that? Yeah, I didn't. Yeah.

1:08:16

Appreciate the voicemail. We've actually had

1:08:18

a couple of people

1:08:20

suggest the 22 caliber killers. Yeah. Case.

1:08:22

And I don't know why we haven't

1:08:24

done it. I just, I gotta, is

1:08:26

you lazy? I'm lazy, man. I gotta

1:08:28

get on it. But we

1:08:30

appreciate the voicemail. So that is

1:08:32

it buddy for another episode of true crime

1:08:34

all the time unsolved. So for Mike and

1:08:36

Gibby, stay safe and keep your own time

1:08:39

ticking. Oh,

1:09:09

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