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listening to Trump's Trials. I'm Scott Detrow. And

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now here's Juana Summers. That's

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how much Judge Juan Marchon fined

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former President Trump for violating a

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gag order that prohibited him from

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speaking out about potential witnesses and

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others. Meanwhile, testimony continued in Trump's

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Hush Money trial and jurors heard

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from four witnesses. Joining us now

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to tell us about all of

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this is NPR politics reporter Jimena

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Bustillo, who has been covering the

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trial for us. Hi

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there. Hey there. So Jimena, before we get

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into the witnesses and what happened today, $9,000, it just doesn't seem

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like a whole lot for Trump, who we

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know was a real estate mogul before he

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became president, does it? That's

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right. And Judge Juan Marchon

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said as much in his order, noting that,

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quote, criminal contempt is punishable by A... Fine not

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exceeding one thousand dollars by jail not

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exceeding thirty days or by both in

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the discretion of the courts and most

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on also warned Trump that the court

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won't quote tolerate more violations and that

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if necessary and appropriate he will consider

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jail time as a necessary punishment. Now

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it is worth pointing out that this

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would be unprecedented. No current or former

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president has been found guilty of anything

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let alone sales by were also in

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very unprecedented times Because this is the

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first criminal trial against the sitting or

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former presidents, one. More thing, there's another

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gag order hearing on Thursday to discuss

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what prosecutors are saying or further violations

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by Trump of the order against him

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and his men are what else to

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disorder have to say? Well, Trump was

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ordered to pay those nine thousand dollars

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for nine violating posts by Friday May

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third and and will move the seven

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offending posts from to social accounts and

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to post from his campaign website by

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to fifteen pm today which he did

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okay. On to what happened in court

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today. Jurors also heard from several witnesses

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what were the big. Take Away. So

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we first heard from Gary Pharaoh he's

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a former banker for First Republic. Think

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the Bank or Michael Cohen open the

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accounts that would facilitate the payments made

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this for me. Daniels and adult film

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stars And Care and Mcdougall, a Playboy

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model for Rap Aveiro testimony at Trump's

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Boyer Todd Blanche continued laying the groundwork

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for what will likely be arguments aimed

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at discrediting Cohen. In testimony, Pharaoh said

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that Cohen was difficult to work with

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an that the Bank wouldn't have opened

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the accounts of. They knew what they

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would have ultimately been used for the

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dearth quickly. Heard from two more witnesses

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also Robert Browning, a C Span executive

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and Philip Thompson of Esquire Deposition Solution.

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Both of these witness were on for

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a very short time and was there

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to verify videos and transcripts. This is

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the first time the jury heard Trump's

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of voice in the courtrooms, clips of

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him at rallies and a press conference

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from Twenty Sixteen and Twenty Seventeen played

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in which comes denied allegations about him

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for women and calling Cohen a talented

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lawyer. Some and I understand what we

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also heard today from Chief David Send,

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another key witness. What do you have

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to say? Davidson was formerly a lawyer

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for both the Stormy Daniels and Caring

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Mcdougall. In testimony he detailed how he

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negotiated with do goals and Daniels payments.

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They both alleged affair with Trump and

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the jury saw text messages between Davidson

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and leadership at American Media Inc, which

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published a National Esquire and email with

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Cohen. Now last week jurors heard from

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David Pecker, who ran a Am I

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an At if We remember. Packer describes

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how his editors would report back stories

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that they heard about Trump's and would

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report that to call and and. In

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some instances like this one would negotiate pm

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it to tell the story Davidson words with

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an editor a A My and Cohen directly

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davis and also testified that he knew am

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I was buying the stories to not run

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them and that would benefit the Trump campaign

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efforts even if he didn't know about a

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specific the oh that was being made between

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the other men. Trump also watch this testimony

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and are turned to Trump in the legal

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teams as it was happening and this was

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the first day that a member of the

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Trump family his son Eric was in the

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room. last thing him and I know trial.

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Tomorrow proceedings will resume on Thursday. what

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should we expect them or Davidson's not

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done so his testimony will pick up

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after the hearing on those legit gag

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order by leases and purists Him and

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