A visit to Dave's family in upstate New York gets Bob and Abdon a history lesson on Joe Beef, Joby for short. That was Dave's nickname growing up in rural Madrid and it stuck with his family through his litany of careers. Even through late 1997 when Dave inks his first official contract to become a spy -- affording him the opportunity to finally focus on the danger in militant republican circles. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices