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on top of everyday discounts. At
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the far end of town, where
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the back roads wind past the little
1:25
diners and campgrounds closed for the season.
1:28
Into the woods we go. I
1:32
feel like it's just starting to be spring.
1:35
I can feel it. Thank God. Just
1:38
when you think you've missed it, turn
1:40
left into an unmarked driveway, past
1:43
the fences and the no trespassing signs.
1:47
Alright, ah, another chain link fence.
1:51
And a much more
1:54
secure padlock. And
1:57
you'll finally arrive. Add
2:01
a huge empty gravel lot. It's
2:05
definitely nothing living
2:07
inside that area. An
2:10
old quarry long out of use. A
2:15
lot of gravel. Birds
2:20
too. But
2:22
look carefully at the dusty ground. You
2:26
might just see the rocks that transported
2:28
chucks into the past. Just
2:31
thinking about time. Like
2:33
geologists think about time in millions of
2:35
years, hundreds of millions of years, by
2:38
looking in the sedimentary rocks. All
2:41
this stuff is big scale. Only
2:44
astronomers think in a
2:46
much bigger scale. I
2:48
love this. They're
2:51
not the oldest rocks in the world
2:53
at all, but they are mighty old.
2:56
Mighty old. We're
3:01
walking across this quarry floor, and
3:06
my eye just unconsciously picked
3:08
up on an odd pattern in
3:10
the quarry floor. It looks like a shallow
3:13
little gutter that kind of meandered
3:16
back and forth a little bit while it went out
3:18
mostly in one direction. It's
3:20
like, what is that? We
3:24
started looking around and followed them,
3:26
and three of these all
3:29
met at one place, along
3:31
with eight more
3:34
of these gutter things that
3:36
had gotten wider as we walked
3:38
towards where they met. It
3:42
didn't take too long before
3:44
we realized, all of us
3:47
individually realized, wow. That
3:51
is where it's restud, 385 million years ago.
3:56
Holy shit. Unbelievable.
4:02
So this was one tree. Are
4:05
You saying that This. Is literally to
4:08
treat like the the star
4:10
formations are like the basis
4:12
of these two trees. The
4:15
impressions of the roots well
4:18
preserved, Like the like.
4:20
the footprints amongst. yeah it'd be like
4:22
footprints, but impressions of the roots are
4:24
they were in the ground. Pelvic
4:27
that telus. Seen.
4:30
It I am not I mean litter. I
4:32
think it looks like the tree and that
4:34
the on the other side of the fan
4:36
three sized tree sized. We
4:38
could stand. Where a free
4:40
stood. Three. Hundred and
4:42
eighty five million years ago and
4:45
sci fi. The impressions of the
4:47
Roots were all we have is
4:49
freeze in. This for us stood.
4:53
It looks so magical is
4:55
it says he I still
4:57
hard to wrap your head
4:59
around especially when that. Anna
5:02
when you're looking at what it is now. I
5:05
mean. So.
5:08
Many individual lives
5:10
have lived on
5:12
this planet. Everything
5:16
dies. Left behind
5:18
something but most of
5:20
everything to case is
5:22
broken down dissolved. It's
5:27
all about first life.
5:30
And a lot of time. Such
5:35
an awesome awesome awesome thing
5:37
to imagine Force. From
5:40
that long ago. The
6:02
back. Way way.
6:04
Back when these trees
6:06
stood, tall forests like
6:08
this one exploded across
6:10
the planet. Radically
6:13
transforming. The earth beneath
6:15
their roots. The air rippling through
6:18
their leave. He
6:20
can see the aftermath of this
6:22
explosion in the world all around
6:25
us. But nowhere more
6:27
clearly attendees go to sleep.
6:29
The prince. Este into the
6:31
dusty grounds. I
6:34
married is hop in. This is
6:36
unexplainable. So
6:45
this is Paleontology collection at the New
6:47
York State Museum. We're
6:52
watching through a room that looks like
6:54
so warehouse at the end of freighters
6:57
the last at. The
6:59
fafsa selection as the lots of
7:02
stuff sitting in the aisles. Tables
7:04
carts are full of. Lisa.
7:06
Mahdi cares for hundreds of
7:09
thousands. Of fossils here in. Her
7:11
job as the state Palaeontologist.
7:14
Lisa and geologists like. Chuck
7:16
for Stratton piece together fragments
7:18
of an ancient past that
7:20
they can't ever studied directly.
7:23
whenever. I'm working with the fossils. I'm picturing
7:25
where they lived. And. Place and
7:27
how they lived and is like
7:29
not just thinking about. Iraq
7:32
and his character, not just thinking
7:34
about. The fossils and what
7:36
they tell me. Is. Is a
7:38
mystery novel. It's lead censor novel. It's A.
7:40
it's a puzzle, words everything all and one.
7:43
We don't have the answers which is what
7:45
makes it fun. Our
7:49
story starts in a time
7:51
before trees about. Four hundred and
7:53
twenty million years ago. At
7:56
the beginning of the. Devonian period.
8:00
The continent's were been stabbed in
8:02
the Southern Hemisphere. And no
8:04
land. They carried what has
8:06
been unrecognizable. There really
8:08
wasn't much of anything on land
8:11
at all. If. There is
8:13
nothing lived on land. It's
8:15
successor tiny plants and the
8:17
ancestors is like insects. They.
8:20
Were very few signs a
8:22
slice. Of them
8:24
Weird. This is
8:26
sophie to So what to
8:28
the possibly be Fine. The
8:31
animal turns out it's a
8:33
fungus. Whoa! This is a fungus.
8:35
Oh, Anyhow, it until. This
8:39
was a landscape of the here in. Rock
8:41
and gravel. Buffeted,
8:43
By. Wins and rains. The.
8:46
Loneliest alien planet.
8:49
But. Underwater was a different
8:51
worlds. So
8:56
much flies in the oceans.
8:58
The Devonian is known as
9:00
the age as this is
9:02
because they were so many
9:04
times assists All of the
9:06
major groups of fish were
9:08
alive during the Devonian period.
9:10
There were solid. Says that
9:13
looks like doing. Worms crossed
9:15
with horseshoe crabs they were
9:17
plateau terms since pleaded and
9:19
armor with season Siberian Tiger
9:22
fangs sack spread to the
9:24
oceans of this time as
9:26
well as lobes censuses with
9:29
only little limbs. And.
9:32
The abundance of nice in the ocean, Was
9:34
just beginning to make it's way onto
9:36
the land. Plant
9:40
started to evolve from algae to be able
9:42
to survive in a wet a viral met
9:44
the out of the water. At. The
9:47
beginning of the Devonian your tallest plants.
9:49
Were only about the reached between your thumb
9:52
as the end of your family and of
9:54
your index finger. Him for five
9:56
may six inches. And
9:58
sprint some moons. A foothold.
10:01
They started evolving faster. And
10:03
faster. by thirty five million
10:05
years later, we're talking about
10:07
the Cairo core. Everything
10:10
It evolve through stages of of
10:12
simple little plans to things that
10:15
we tend to become more complex
10:17
began to. Grow
10:19
into shrubbery size plants and then
10:22
by the middle of the devonian
10:24
your head truth. He
10:26
had freeze. Big.
10:30
Forces of New York where
10:33
underwater and the Appalachian Mountains
10:35
were just forming and they
10:37
were skewed weary tall mountains.
10:39
And is scale mountains perhaps out there
10:42
in New England? And in
10:44
the tropical floodplains. Between the mountains
10:46
and the see the key
10:49
quarry forest flourished with the
10:51
streams is trees broccoli headed
10:53
palm like trees draping every
10:56
green ancestors club mass fungi
10:58
a this up for a
11:00
telephone pole and also smaller.
11:04
Little things like liverworts literal word searches
11:06
cool v don't know what one is
11:08
just like went up to see little
11:11
leaflet like things. So
11:13
and now. Has these rich
11:15
habitats full of resources
11:17
and seltzer. Like
11:19
an empty house ready to be a
11:21
home. And so
11:24
the first loeb since this is
11:26
a false. Little skinny legs and
11:28
crawled up from the water into
11:30
the forest. Peace.
11:35
Where our ancestors the first
11:37
burner rests on land. The
11:40
beginning of other and sapiens also
11:42
birds, the dinosaurs and I. and
11:48
that's about where we are here in
11:50
new york we had everything vertebrates invertebrates
11:52
some plants on land at the site
12:06
So this is one of
12:08
the first full forests on
12:10
the planet Earth. Unbelievable.
12:14
Totally. That
12:16
is crazy. What
12:21
do you think is so, um,
12:23
en- I don't want to say
12:25
the word enchanting. I'm not sure if that's right, but just
12:27
like enthralling about
12:30
the KRO site. Why do you think it,
12:32
it like sparked so many people's
12:34
imaginations? It's
12:38
the oldest perspective. It's
12:41
the oldest sense we have of
12:45
first forests where you can actually
12:47
look out across the
12:49
forest floor and see where
12:52
all these trees stood. But
12:55
this is a big perspective. It's
12:59
really the Devonian period when
13:01
life first really colonized
13:03
the land to a large scale.
13:07
It was that Devonian period. The
13:13
tropical flood lanes of upstate New York
13:15
were a perfect place for these forests
13:18
to take root. Nonsoons
13:21
rolled off the towering Appalachian
13:23
Mountains, drowning the marshes
13:25
and swamplands under epic floods.
13:28
It was wet, but also it was
13:30
warm. Ideal for plants starting to
13:32
figure out how to live on land. And
13:36
then the explosion. And
13:40
it's actually literally called the
13:42
Devonian plant explosion. Life
13:44
had found a new home on the land and
13:47
there was no stopping it. It
13:49
raced across the barren, rocky
13:52
world, an explosion of biodiversity,
13:54
transforming the world from gray
13:56
and blue to green and
13:58
blue into a planet. that
14:00
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story a slice exploding on
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the land. Is also
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the story of Slice Dying.
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And. The oceans. By.
17:26
The end of the Devonian. Once
17:28
seeming sees were now
17:30
a graveyard. The carnage.
17:33
Of one of the biggest mass
17:35
extinctions in the history. Of the planet.
17:38
And extinction as violent as
17:40
the one that killed the
17:42
dinosaurs. Nearly three
17:44
quarters of the species
17:46
on Earth died in
17:48
this slowly unfolding catastrophe.
17:51
And the oceans suffered worst
17:54
of all. Horses littered the
17:56
sea. Floor. The
17:58
age of fishes. Was oh. It
18:03
takes a certain degree of imagination to
18:05
see that things are different in the
18:07
past. And the deeper
18:09
back to go into earth's history.
18:12
The. More bizarre they are and the more
18:14
for and they are to what you're
18:16
familiar with. Geologists Thomas
18:18
and Cel Studies. Ancient
18:20
Apocalypse as. By. Effectively
18:23
delved into all of the math think
18:25
that, events and earth history. Our.
18:28
Planet as nurtured life from.
18:31
Billions of years, it's been
18:33
a remarkably stable place to
18:35
the lands. and try as.
18:37
And. In that long history. There
18:40
have only been five times when
18:42
the world was flung into. Such
18:44
chaos that a majority of the
18:46
species on Earth were wiped out
18:48
before they had a chance to
18:51
adapt. And for that to happen,
18:53
there has to be some kind of trigger. Some.
18:55
Head. External figure that
18:58
upsets the system. And.
19:00
Thomas thinks that is this mass
19:02
extinction in the oceans list triggered
19:05
by the trees. The.
19:10
Devonian plants explosion seems the
19:13
face of our planet. But.
19:15
It also tends to sow the planet
19:17
where. How the air,
19:20
soil, and the water all
19:22
interacted. Fees. First
19:24
Forests said what for us
19:26
still do today. They pulled
19:28
carbon dioxide from the atmosphere
19:30
and released oxygen. But.
19:32
This scale of photosynthesis
19:34
with something totally new.
19:37
Trees. Basically, we're really made
19:40
the atmosphere. Dropping.
19:42
Carbon dioxide levels by maybe as
19:44
much as ninety percent. And.
19:46
Doubling the oxygen. And
19:49
as the big increase that brings
19:51
us up close to modern oxygen
19:53
level. This giant
19:55
screen is one of just
19:57
a few times living beings
19:59
and. Raptor, The atmosphere
20:01
so dramatically. These
20:04
first forests. Up ended the
20:06
climate and plunged the earth
20:08
into an ice age that
20:10
envelops the world for tens
20:12
of millions of years. But.
20:17
An ice age alone. Doesn't
20:19
necessarily lead to mass extinction.
20:22
There. Was a second punch coming for the age
20:24
of this is. A wave of
20:26
death. Spreading. Out some the
20:28
land. The
20:33
real of these first
20:35
forests dug into the
20:37
earth, breaking up rocks
20:39
and releasing mineral. The
20:42
trees than died. He composed.
20:44
And formed new layers of carbon
20:46
rich soil. As
20:50
the forests grew so did the
20:53
soil which made it easier for
20:55
younger plants to take root and
20:57
help those force for up which
20:59
then led to even more soil.
21:02
And or the have a positive feedback
21:04
there. But. Eventually the nutrients are
21:06
going to week out into the ground
21:09
water system for the forced out of
21:11
the foil into the ground water. The
21:13
ground water runs into a local river
21:16
basin somewhere. The river theories in Israel
21:18
says of Ios. Soils
21:23
don't just how plants grow
21:25
on land, they also help
21:27
plants throw in the water
21:30
and so as these trees
21:32
flourished and help to fertilize
21:34
huge boost of algae. With.
21:37
Devastating. Consequences for the seen.
21:40
As those massive algal bloom
21:42
died and dictated that rob
21:45
the waters of dissolved oxygen.
21:48
Without dissolved. Oxygen in
21:50
the water. Marine life couldn't
21:52
breathe. It's huge. Dad Zones
21:54
spread across the world's oceans.
21:57
Enveloping, vibrant, Coral.
22:00
These communities. In As Sappy
22:02
with Cloud of Death. Suffocating
22:04
the age of fishes And
22:07
that's effectively what I think
22:09
happened during the late Devonian.
22:20
For. The asteroid that killed the
22:22
dinosaurs. There is clear direct
22:24
evidence a giant impact crater
22:26
in the Gulf of Mexico.
22:29
And a layer of extraterrestrial
22:31
dust slung across the globe.
22:34
It's very testable, but the Devonian
22:36
players are different because you're looking
22:38
because the evidence, That and. You.
22:41
See big changes in
22:43
climate and environmental conditions
22:45
but it's has. Simply.
22:48
Say those are due to the influence
22:50
were plus they could be due to
22:52
other frigates. So. Did
22:54
trees pulled the trigger on this
22:57
mass extinction? Or. Did
22:59
they set the world up to? they put
23:01
it in front of the done and set
23:04
the stage for some other trigger. Like
23:06
a volcanic eruption, Thomas's
23:09
determined to find out. For.
23:12
What's really needed A better record of the
23:14
evolution of where players themselves. But if you
23:16
find a powerful one place that doesn't necessarily
23:19
tell you anything about with going on in
23:21
another place. So. For
23:23
some kind of global pattern, you
23:25
literally have to go out and
23:27
analyze the sages and dozens or
23:29
maybe hundreds of different locations in
23:32
order to be confident you're looking
23:34
at a global fact. There
23:37
are countless fossil forests around the world's.
23:39
like the one here and came out.
23:42
That could shed more light on
23:44
the Devonian plant explosion. But
23:47
they're. Buried under earth
23:49
and rocks. Still waiting
23:52
to be discover. it. So
24:08
there is a time before forests
24:10
and then the world was never
24:12
the same again. Sinden.
24:14
Same stuff. As good. As
24:24
I walk across the quarry
24:26
floor, the distance to the
24:28
past seems permeable. I
24:32
can retrieve the steps of my. And
24:34
Sabean ancestors imagine them
24:36
scampering from tree to
24:38
tree. This. Forest was their
24:41
first home on lance the beginning
24:43
of slice as we know it,
24:45
the reason. I'm is in here. Millions
24:48
of years later, That
24:51
light. Curve to
24:53
mine says ancient route seem
24:55
like etchings in a stone
24:57
shrine monument commemorating these trees.
25:00
These heroes that silver Spring
25:02
Spring air I'm breathing oxygen.
25:08
There's also a darkness here around
25:10
the edges. A
25:12
somber memorial to a mass extinction
25:14
like killed the majority of life
25:16
on earth. A tombstone
25:19
to the Aids Assists is. Marking
25:21
of violent revolution that overturned
25:24
the planet. Says
25:28
a double edged sword. Have. To
25:30
think about like. Allies
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finding new homes to
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be as explosives as
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violent as an asteroid.
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But. The past seals closest. When I
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think about the present, We
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are now the life transforming
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Earth's climate and ecosystems. We're
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releasing carbon. In the air
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that these first trees. Their descendants
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buried in the ground. So
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long ago. We
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are on the brink of the sixth
26:08
mass extinction in the history of the
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planet. May be the
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