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As you know by now, as
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probably everyone knows by now this
1:07
coming Monday, April eighth, millions of
1:09
people in North America are going
1:11
to experience a solar Eclipse. At
1:14
the first instance when they're more moves
1:16
in front of this fantasy, this little
1:19
little tiny black spot on the sun
1:21
and the crescent starts to increase. This
1:24
is astronomer and eclipse chaser Sharia A
1:26
Ball. and during that time
1:28
the temperature starts to drop and
1:30
the you feel the the surrounding
1:33
background is getting daimler like a
1:35
huge cloud is coming and front
1:37
of the sun. No
1:39
matter where you are in North
1:42
America on Monday, you'll probably get
1:44
to see something like this: the
1:46
moon covering at least a section
1:48
of the sun. a partial solar
1:50
eclipse. But if you're in exactly
1:52
the right place this narrow path
1:54
that runs up from Mexico to
1:56
Indianapolis to Montreal, the moon is
1:58
going to line up directly. in front
2:00
of the sun. And Shadia says
2:02
this is a completely different experience.
2:05
When it happens, it's like there's
2:07
a sound of wish. When
2:15
this happens, if you're in this narrow
2:17
path, what's called the path of totality,
2:20
it almost feels like nighttime in the middle of the
2:22
day. And at just
2:24
that instant when the moon completely
2:26
blocks the sun, then you will
2:29
see these majestic rays appearing
2:31
everywhere. At
2:34
this point, you can stare directly at
2:36
a fully blotted out sun. It
2:38
just feels like magic. It feels
2:41
like out of
2:43
this world. It feels supernatural.
2:45
It's just like it hits you in
2:47
every part of your body. It's not just
2:49
visually. You just feel like something
2:51
is surrounding you, something
2:54
is taking you to a
2:56
place you've never been before. The
2:59
totality is short. It only
3:01
lasts anywhere from a few seconds to a
3:04
few minutes. And eclipses
3:06
seem to happen almost randomly all
3:08
over the place. So
3:10
Shadia has to chase them. For
3:14
almost 30 years, Shadia and her team have
3:16
been hunting eclipses all over the world, wherever
3:18
they can find them. We've been to
3:20
Mongolia. We've been to Antarctica. We've been
3:23
to Libya. We've been to the Dakota,
3:25
France, Poland, Asia, Vietnam, the Arctic, Northern
3:27
Norway, the Shadia
4:00
first got interested in eclipses as a way
4:02
to study a particular part of the Sun,
4:05
the corona. The corona is the atmosphere
4:08
of the Sun. And it's
4:10
actually a very, very hot atmosphere,
4:12
like over a million degrees. At
4:15
this temperature, the super hot gas that makes
4:18
up the Sun gets even hotter, so
4:20
hot that it actually breaks down. It's
4:22
like when you put a pot of water
4:25
on the stove and you boil it, it
4:27
evaporates, and then you have vapor. Well here
4:30
in the corona, you're not
4:32
just producing vapor, you're producing
4:34
individual particles called
4:36
free electrons. So sometimes
4:39
it's streaming away happily, and then
4:41
sometimes you have what
4:43
we call a storm or an explosion at
4:45
the Sun. Solar
4:50
storms send tons of electromagnetic radiation
4:52
streaming away from the Sun. And
4:55
this radiation often ends up hitting Earth. Sometimes
4:58
it can lead to beautiful phenomena like the Northern
5:00
Lights, but it can also
5:03
cause massive problems. Because
5:05
they carry very large currents,
5:07
they can short-circuit satellites. So
5:10
you basically disrupt electricity, you disrupt
5:13
telephone services, so it can be
5:15
pretty major. There was the Carrington
5:17
event in 1859. People
5:19
used the telegraph at the time, and
5:22
they noticed that the needles of
5:24
the compasses started to move erratically.
5:27
And they just couldn't use the
5:29
telegraph anymore. There was the New
5:31
York Railroad storm of 1921. Mr.
5:34
Carlton, president of the Western Union
5:36
Telegraph Company, announces that the damage done
5:39
by the Aurora Borealis on Saturday evening
5:41
may necessitate the lifting of some of
5:43
the transatlantic cables for repairs. In
5:46
1989, a solar storm knocked out the power in
5:49
Quebec. Only this morning, six
5:51
million people across Quebec woke up
5:53
to darkness and disbelief. The
5:55
entire province hit by a power failure.
6:00
solar storm took down almost an entire
6:02
fleet of satellites. And now
6:04
they either are going to or already
6:06
have re-entered Earth's atmosphere. But
6:12
despite how much damage solar storms can do
6:14
on Earth, scientists are still
6:17
struggling to predict them. And that's
6:19
because they don't understand so much about how
6:21
the corona works. Including
6:24
a really basic sounding question. Why
6:26
is the corona hot? That might
6:29
sound kind of obvious, right? Like the sun
6:31
is hot, the corona is part of the
6:33
sun, also hot. But
6:36
there's another key piece of the puzzle here. Space
6:39
is cold, and the corona is
6:41
huge. It extends five
6:43
million miles into deep freezing
6:45
space. What's weird is
6:47
it's very hot temperature compared to the
6:49
surface of the sun. You
6:51
would think the temperature would drop with distance,
6:54
but it doesn't. Charias started
6:56
trying to figure out what makes the corona
6:58
so hot by simulating it. I was doing
7:01
models of the corona, trying to
7:04
figure out what processes heat
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the corona. And I
7:08
realized that the temperature was
7:10
a critical piece of information I
7:13
needed to have. The
7:15
best way to get these temperature measurements is
7:17
by taking special photos of the corona. But
7:20
the only time you can actually see the corona is
7:22
when the rest of the sun is covered up. Because
7:25
the corona is a million times fainter
7:27
than the very bright sun. Otherwise
7:30
you won't see the corona. So in
7:32
1995, Shadia went to India to
7:34
catch her first total solar eclipse.
7:37
It was 42 seconds long, but
7:40
it was probably the most spectacular one I
7:42
saw. When
7:46
the moon has totally blocked the bright
7:48
surface of the sun, you
7:51
see these structures
7:53
that look like rays,
7:55
rays upon rays, just expanding
7:58
from the sun. We
8:00
really feel the sky, these
8:02
kind of what we call streamers extending
8:05
all the way to infinity visually.
8:08
These rays upon rays were the
8:10
corona itself. The sun
8:12
was covered and Shadia was finally able
8:14
to see the halo of light that
8:16
surrounded it. But she had
8:18
to move quickly. We literally had 42 seconds,
8:21
so I couldn't spend too much time
8:23
looking around or anything. We had to
8:25
really pay attention to operating
8:28
the cameras that we had. She
8:30
took a picture. So I thought, okay,
8:32
one measurement and that's it. But
8:34
after 42 seconds, the sun started peeking
8:36
out from behind the moon. The
8:38
world filled up with light again. And
8:41
Shadia realized pretty quickly that just
8:43
one measurement from one solar eclipse
8:46
wasn't going to be enough. She needed
8:48
to start chasing eclipses all
8:50
over the world to get the data she needed. But
8:56
why do we even need an eclipse to study
8:58
this? Can't we do this artificially, like put something
9:00
up to block out most of the sun and
9:03
see the corona? Well, because it
9:05
doesn't do as good a job as a natural
9:07
eclipse. Why doesn't it do as good of a job?
9:10
It's a very small blocker, whereas the
9:12
moon is huge. So it dims the
9:15
light to the point where the sky
9:17
is like nighttime. Ah, okay.
9:19
So if I were to say, let's say I
9:21
go outside and I want to study the corona.
9:23
So I hold up a quarter in front of
9:25
the sun and I can block the
9:27
sun and maybe just see the corona. But
9:30
because it's so close to my eye, everything
9:32
will be filled up with sunlight. Yes. So
9:35
within eclipse, you get everything. You get the
9:37
very intricate structures very, very
9:40
close to the sun and you get
9:42
everything that's streaming away as you look further
9:44
away. So you see this continuous
9:47
transition from the surface outwards that
9:49
you don't get with any other
9:51
instruments at the moment. When
9:54
you are actually looking at the eclipse, what is
9:56
the instrument you're using? Our
9:59
optical system. are like very
10:01
small telescopes. But the key element
10:03
is something we call a spectrometer, which
10:05
is like a prism when you let
10:08
the light go through a prism and
10:10
it splits the colors. And so we
10:12
capture these different colors. And
10:14
each color corresponds to a different
10:16
temperature in the corona. So
10:19
is what you're doing, is it fair to say
10:21
you're creating like a temperature map of the sun
10:23
or of the corona? Of the corona, yes, exactly.
10:26
And that map is gonna help make
10:28
these models of how the corona works
10:30
more accurate? Yes, exactly. Are
10:32
we close at all to being able to use
10:35
some of these models to be like, okay, this
10:38
is when this will happen, we gotta prepare the
10:40
satellites? Not yet. Okay.
10:43
We have some clues, we know what's causing
10:45
them, but we can't predict when
10:47
they will happen. And that's one
10:50
of the things we're trying to gather some
10:53
more information from our eclipse observations.
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Are we any closer than we were 30 years ago? Yes, yeah,
11:04
but we still don't have
11:06
a reliable answer. How
11:11
close are we to predicting? Are these measurements helping
11:13
these predictions? Yes, but like any scientific
11:16
research, you
11:18
discover something and then you discover
11:21
that there's a lot more to discover. So
11:24
that isn't something where
11:26
you say full stop, I've
11:29
finished, just keeps
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on going. This is
11:33
the beauty of scientific research is you'll never
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do. This
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Monday, Shadi is heading out to record her 20th
11:43
eclipse. But
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for all her technical equipment and expertise and
11:48
experience, she still has to deal
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eclipse observations or chasing eclipses?
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The weather. We
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lost 40% of our observations
15:46
to clouds. Wow, 40%. So
15:51
out of, you said that out of how many eclipses? 20,
15:54
for example, this would be my 20th. We
15:57
lost 40%. We
15:59
lost... eight. Yeah, that sounds
16:01
extremely, I don't know. I
16:03
imagine that's got to be really disappointing. Well,
16:05
it's heartbreaking. Yes. Because
16:08
so many times what happens
16:10
during just a little
16:12
bit before totality, the temperature
16:14
drops and you have atmospheric
16:17
conditions that happen suddenly.
16:19
So once in South Africa, it
16:23
was perfectly crystal clear skies and
16:25
the cloud just formed smack in
16:28
front of the sun. Oh my god. Just
16:30
before totality. It's almost like you, you
16:32
put it on. Here
16:34
was a cloud. It just decided to be
16:37
right in front of the sun and then
16:39
it dispersed the moment the eclipse was over. So
16:42
you're set up, you have your equipment and
16:44
then a cloud shows up and then you're
16:46
just done. Like you can't do anything?
16:49
Yeah, you lost everything. You have no data.
16:51
And another time we were in Kenya, we
16:53
had a sandstorm just 15 minutes before
16:56
the eclipse. We were close
16:58
to a lake and basically
17:00
the wind pattern shifted. And
17:03
then all of a sudden we were looking towards
17:05
the sun and a colleague of mine turned around
17:07
and he said, Oh, S.H.
17:11
I said, what's the matter? We looked
17:13
back and this huge cloud
17:15
was coming barely towards us. What
17:19
did you do? We covered the equipment. We had
17:21
to. It was very,
17:24
very fast and we were
17:26
totally crowded out. I
17:32
just, it just seems like there
17:34
must be a better way to
17:37
do this. Well, there are ways. Recently
17:40
we were in Antarctica and unfortunately
17:42
we were clouded out. It was
17:44
really heartbreaking because the sky was
17:46
crystal clear the day before and
17:49
crystal clear two hours after totality.
17:52
Wow. So one of my colleagues,
17:54
he just came up with the idea and say,
17:56
why don't we fly a kite? it's
18:00
not just any type of kite. It's
18:02
quite large. It has a wingspan of
18:04
about 6.5 meters. So
18:07
we attached a spectrometer to it.
18:10
The idea is that if it's cloudy with a kite,
18:12
you can go up to 4,000-5,000 meters
18:16
and you can get above the cloud. So
18:19
we tried last year in Australia
18:21
with a kite. What was it
18:23
like testing something like this? Were you nervous? Yes,
18:26
we were very nervous, but it was
18:28
the most exhilarating experience. It
18:31
was like watching the Sputnik. And
18:34
the other option we're also trying
18:36
this year is NASA has
18:39
a research aircraft called the
18:41
WB-57. Now that airplane flies
18:44
up to 60,000 feet where
18:46
there are no clouds. And
18:48
that airplane, is it flying
18:50
along the path of totality? Yes,
18:53
exactly. So it's the engineers
18:55
and the pilots of this NASA project,
18:57
they can follow the path of totality.
19:03
How many more eclipses do you think it's going to
19:05
take before you have an answer? I don't
19:07
know. I
19:10
honestly don't know. I
19:12
mean, the thing is,
19:14
there's nobody else in this world who's
19:16
doing what we're doing. In
19:19
research, you discover and
19:21
then you have new questions. So
19:24
maybe you find an answer to one question,
19:26
but then you raise 10 more. So
19:29
it's a continuous process and this is
19:31
how science advances. So
19:33
to say that we
19:36
will stop learning, no, we'll
19:38
keep on learning. So you're just
19:40
going to keep chasing eclipses for the rest of
19:42
your career? Yeah, eclipses until I can't
19:44
chase them anymore. Somebody else
19:46
has to do it. This
19:58
episode was produced by me. Manning-Wint. We
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20:02
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a friend of the show
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experiencing totality at the last
21:05
North American Eclipse in 2017.
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