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Early one chilly morning in
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March of nineteen seventy seven, the
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sun was just starting to rise over
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the town of Circleville, Ohio.
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Most windows were still dark, the
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suburban streets empty of traffic.
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But despite the early hour, Mary
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Gillespie was wide awake. She
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was used to getting up before dawn. She'd
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been doing it for years, ever since
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she started working as a school bus
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driver, and had grown to appreciate
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the time she had to herself first
0:44
thing in the morning, before anybody
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else was awake. That
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morning, she closed the front door
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quietly behind her as she left
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the house, not wanting to wake
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her family. As she headed
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down the driveway towards her part
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car, she took a sudden detour
1:03
to check the mailbox. Inside
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was one single envelope and
1:08
addressed to Mary. Curious,
1:12
she picked it up and briskly tore
1:14
it open, finding a single
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sheet of lined paper inside.
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She pulled it out and unfolded it
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and immediately felt unnerved.
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It was a note written to her in
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large menacing block
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capitals, the letters
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so tall and narrow they looked distorted.
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It read stay
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away from Gordon Massey, don't
1:42
lie when questioned about meeting him. I
1:45
know where you live. Mary
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stared down at the letter, the blocky
1:50
writing swimming before her eyes.
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Gordon had been her colleague for years.
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He was the superintendent at
1:59
the school whose she drove, and
2:01
just like her to the outside
2:04
world, at least, he was happily
2:06
married. And yet whoever
2:09
had written this letter was clearly
2:11
accusing Mary of adultery. And
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it didn't stop there. The
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letter went on, I've been
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observing your house and I know
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you have children. This
2:23
is no joke. Please take it
2:25
serious. Everyone concerned
2:27
has been notified. It will
2:29
be over soon. Mary
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felt a chill run down her back. She
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glanced up and looked furtively about,
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but the street was empty and silent.
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She blinked, half expecting the
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scene to fade away like a bad dream.
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But the cold breeze against her face,
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the rustling of the paper in her hands
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told her otherwise. Mary
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read the letter back one more time, then
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she folded it up, put it in
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her pocket, and continued
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on to her car. You're
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listening to Unexplained, and
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I'm Richard mclin smith.
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Circleville is the definition of
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an all American small town. It's
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in the heart of the Midwest, surrounded
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by farmland on all sides, but
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just a short drive from the major city
3:29
of Columbus. Its biggest
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claim to fame is its annual
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pumpkin show, which draws
3:35
thousands of tourists every year.
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It's a quaint, sleepy kind of
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place, a safe place to raise
3:43
a family. Mary
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and Ron Gillespie were high school
3:48
sweethearts, and after getting married
3:50
and having two children, they settled
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in Circleville. For
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years, they led a peaceful
3:57
and happy life there. They were
3:59
well liked in the community, friendly
4:01
with their neighbors, and as the school
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bus driver, Mary was on first
4:06
name terms with many of the local
4:08
kids. They had no
4:11
enemies, or so they thought,
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But the arrival of that shocking poison
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pen letter made it clear that
4:19
somebody had a grudge against Mary,
4:22
and that letter was just the
4:24
beginning. Over
4:26
the next few months, the letters
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kept coming, the subject
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never changed. The writer seemingly
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fixated on a supposed love affair
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between Mary and Gordon Massey,
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the local school superintendent, and
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with each letter the tone grew
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ever more menacing. Lady,
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They wrote, this is your last
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chance to report him. I
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know you're a pig and will prove
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it and shame you out of Ohio
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before the author began
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writing to Mary's husband Ron
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as well, mister Gillespie,
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your wife is seeing Gordon Massey read
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one especially vicious letter.
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You should catch them together and kill
5:15
them both. He doesn't deserve
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to live. Then
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one morning, as she drove her
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usual bus route, Mary noticed
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a sign on the side of the road with
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mounting horror she recognized
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her own name written on it.
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It was an obscene message, calling
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her a word she would never dream
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of saying out loud. When
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she told Ron about it, he got
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straight into his car and troed
5:44
the local roads on a grim scavenger
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hunt, searching for any more signs.
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Much to his horror, there were others
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which he promptly tore down, but
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it was too late. The damage
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was already done.
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Mary and Ron hadn't told anybody
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about the letters. They were
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too embarrassed for one thing, and
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they also hoped that if they ignored
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them for long enough, whoever was
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responsible would get bored. Not
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only did they not stop, but
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with the addition of the signs propping
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up all over the town, the cat
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was well and truly out of the bag.
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Word travels fast in a place
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like Circleville and by that
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evening, half of the town knew
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what Mary was being accused of. Humiliated
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and scared, the Gillespies knew
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they couldn't bury their heads in the sand
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any longer. They gathered up
6:48
the stack of letters they'd reluctantly
6:50
held onto and went straight to
6:52
the sheriff's office.
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The police promptly launched an investigation
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to determine at least where the letters had
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come from. All had been
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postmarked in Columbus, about
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thirty miles north of Circleville, but
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given the size of the city, that
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wasn't much to go on. Both
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Ron and Mary, as well as a number
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of their friends and neighbors, were interviewed
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in the hope of trying to narrow down who
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on earth would want to publicly hound
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them like this. They
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tapped phones, surveiled
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houses, and worked with the postal
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service to try and track down
7:30
the sender, all to no
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avail, and through
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it all, the letters
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just kept on coming. By
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the summer of nineteen seventy seven,
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Mary was at breaking point. She
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needed a break from the relentless abuse,
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the stairs, from neighbors, the
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whispers at the grocery store. So
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when her sister in law Karen Sue
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suggested they'd take a road trip to Florida.
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She didn't. Despite
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the hurtful accusation, Ron
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stood by his wife and supposedly
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believed her when she insisted that
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there was nothing to the rumor about her
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and Gordon Massey. On
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the morning she left for Florida, the
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couple asserted their love for each
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other and kissed each other goodbye.
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That evening, in the family home,
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alone with his children, Ron
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got a mysterious phone call. He
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told his children he was going out and
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left the house. A
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couple of days into their trip, on
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August nineteenth, Mary
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received an urgent call from the Circleville
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Sheriff's office. She picked
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up the receiver eagerly. Surely
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they wouldn't be calling her unless they'd
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finally cracked the case, she thought, But
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the Sheriff's voice was solemn. He
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asked Mary if she was sitting down,
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and then he told her that
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her husband, Ron was dead.
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Doctor Ray Carroll was no stranger
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to grisly sights. He'd
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been the Pickaway County coroner for
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long enough that not much phazed him.
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But as he pulled up to the scene just
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off Route three that evening, he
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had to take a moment to steal himself.
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The pickup truck was almost unrecognizable,
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twisted and warped and upside
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down, its remnants
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wrapped around a tree on the side
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of the freeway. He
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could just barely make out the silhouette
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of the driver, crumpled on the ground
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a few feet from the truck. He'd
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been ejected through the windshield as
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the vehicle flipped over, and the ground
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surrounding him was covered in shattered
9:59
glass. The paramedics
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at the scene had done all they
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could. Everybody there knew
10:06
it was a lost cause, but it
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was doctor Carroll's job to confirm
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the ugly truth. It
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didn't take him long. After
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checking for a heartbeat, respiration,
10:18
and corneal reflex, he
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pronounced Ron Gillespie, husband
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and father of two, dead
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at the age of thirty five. During
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the full autopsy, doctor Carroll
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established that Ron had suffered
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massive internal injuries in the crash,
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so severe that he'd likely
10:39
died within minutes. He
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also found that Ron's blood alcohol
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level was almost twice the legal
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limit. So there
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was the explanation he thought tragic,
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entirely preventable, but easy
10:55
to understand. When
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he filled out his official report, doctor
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Carroll marked the cause of death as
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an accident caused by
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driving under the influence. As
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far as the authorities were concerned,
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that was the end of it. Perhaps
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Ron didn't believe his wife after
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all when she said there was no truth
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to the rumors of her affair and
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it had all been too much for him. To
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Ron's loved ones, however, this version
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of events made no sense whatsoever.
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In the aftermath of Ron's death, Mary
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leaned on her in laws for support. Karen
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Sue, Ron's sister, had
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been with her in Florida when the terrible
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news came in. Meanwhile,
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Karen Sue's husband, Paul fresh
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Hour, was becoming increasingly suspicious
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about the official narrative. The
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two couples socialized often, and
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Paul knew that Ron was not a heavy
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drinker. Getting behind
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the wheel of a truck intoxicated.
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It just didn't add up, and
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that wasn't the only thing driving
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Paul's doubts.
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At the scene of Ron Gillespie's crash,
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underneath his body, police
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found a point twenty two caliber
12:23
revolver. Analysis
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later showed that the gun had
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been fired. To
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Paul. This was a literal smoking
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gun. He was adamant
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that Ron's death was no accident
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and that it was somehow related to
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the vicious letter campaign. He
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went to the sheriff and begged him to
12:44
re examine the case, insisting
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that he knew what had really happened.
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Clearly, Ron had fired that revolver
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in a last desperate attempt to
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defend himself seconds
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before he was murdered. Though
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the Pickaway County sheriff had been investigating
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the poison pen letters for months, he
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saw no connection between that mystery
13:08
and Ron's tragic death. He
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certainly didn't buy the idea that he'd
13:13
been murdered. To him,
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Paul fresh Hour seemed like a loon,
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but he did feel terrible for poor
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Mary Gillespie, who'd been
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through more trauma in a year than
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anyone should suffer in a lifetime.
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And it wasn't over yet. Despite
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Ron's death, the letters kept
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on coming. Clearly the
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author didn't care that they were
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tormenting a newly widowed
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mother of two. As
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far as they were concerned, Mary
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was an adulterer and deserved
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to be punished. And there was
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only one person alive who
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really understood what Mary was going
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through. Local
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school superintendent Gordon
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Massey. Although
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Gordon hadn't received any letters
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himself, he'd been openly
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named as Mary's alleged lover,
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and just like Mary, he'd had
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to deal with the relentless small town
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gossip the way conversations
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seemed to mysteriously stop as
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soon as he walked into a room, not
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to mention having to explain himself
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to his own partner. Up
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to that point, both Mary
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and Gordon always denied
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that they'd ever had an affair. It'll
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never be known if that was true, but
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what is known is that after
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Mary's husband, Ron's death,
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things changed. The
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Circleville letters had seemingly become
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a self fulfilling prophecy, as
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Mary and Gordon did then
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start to see each other. Unsurprisingly,
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this only added fuel to the fire.
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When this salacious revelation started
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doing the rounds, more and more venomous
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letters were sent to Mary's friends
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and family, to local businesses,
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even to her children's school. Some
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letters even included direct threats
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to Mary's children. It's
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your daughter's turn to pay for what you've
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done, said one, while
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in another the writer openly
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threatened to put a bullet in
15:25
the child's head. The
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police investigation into the letters
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had petered out by this point with
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no solid leads at all, so
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Mary had little option but to
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do her best to ignore them and
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try and get on with her life.
15:42
But as it soon turned out, the
15:45
author of the letters didn't take
15:47
kindly to being ignored.
15:56
By February of nineteen eighty
15:59
three were looking up for Mary.
16:02
It had been almost six years since
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the first of what would come to be known
16:07
as the Circleville letters were
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sent to her, and five and a
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half since she'd lost ron Through
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it all, she'd somehow managed
16:17
to remain sane now.
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Whenever an envelope showed up in her
16:22
mailbox with that familiar blocky
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scrawl, she didn't entertain it
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at all. She simply threw
16:28
it away without reading its contents,
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and over time their power over
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her dwindled. She
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could go entire days without thinking
16:38
about the letters at all, and
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so it was when in the afternoon
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of February seventh, Mary
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climbed into her empty school bus
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and set out to do her usual afternoon
16:51
pickups. She'd been
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serving the same local schools for
16:56
so many years now that she could
16:58
probably drive this route blindfolded.
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But just as she was approaching a left
17:03
turn, something caught
17:05
her eye, a flash
17:08
of white in her peripheral vision, an
17:10
object that shouldn't be there. A
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cold knot of dread formed in her
17:16
stomach as her body reacted
17:18
fiscerally to a sickeningly
17:20
familiar sight. It
17:23
was another sign written
17:25
in that unmistakable aggressive
17:27
handwriting, pinned onto a nearby
17:30
fence. The message was
17:32
obscene, violent, and
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this time it wasn't about Mary. It
17:37
was about her thirteen year old daughter.
17:40
Gripping the steering wheel hard to keep
17:43
her hands from shaking, Mary
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pulled the bus over to the side of the road
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and switched off the engine. She
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clambered out onto the sidewalk, looking
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nervously about to see if anyone
17:55
else was there. As
17:57
her mind raised, she walked
17:59
brit over to the sign and
18:02
was just about to wrench it down when
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she felt the weight of something solid
18:07
behind it. After
18:09
a confused moment, she realized
18:11
that there was a wooden box behind
18:14
the sign, attached to it with twine.
18:17
When she finally got the contraption off the
18:20
fence, she tried to pry it open,
18:22
but the twine was heavy duty and
18:25
wound too tightly around the box.
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As Mary wrestled with it, she heard
18:30
the sound of a car approaching. Terrified
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at the thought of being seen next
18:36
to the sign, she quickly hid
18:38
the box under her coat and hurried
18:40
back into the bus.
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When Mary made it home later that evening,
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she was finally able to get into the
18:56
mysterious box. With
18:58
her heart pounding, she grabbed
19:00
a pair of scissors and cut through the
19:02
twine, then yanked
19:04
open the lid. Looking
19:06
down, her eyes widened
19:09
in terror at the sight of a loaded
19:11
pistol primed to go off.
19:15
There was no denying what she was looking at.
19:18
The box was a booby trap designed
19:21
to kill her. When
19:23
she took the box to the Sheriff's office, the
19:26
officers there confirmed it. The
19:29
gun had been clumsily rigged up to
19:31
a spring mechanism seemingly
19:33
designed to make it fire as soon
19:35
as the sign was pulled down from the
19:37
fence. Fortunately
19:39
for Mary, the trap had failed.
19:43
Though the Circleville Letter's investigation
19:46
had lain dormant for years, this
19:48
dramatic new piece of evidence
19:50
revived it instantly. The
19:53
sheriff sent the trap to Ohio's
19:55
Bureau of Criminal Investigation for
19:58
expert analysis. The
20:00
serial number on the gun had
20:02
been partially filed off to prevent
20:05
it from being traced, but it
20:07
was a shoddy job, so investigators
20:10
were able to restore it, and
20:12
when they ran it through their system, the
20:14
name of the owner came up right
20:17
away. The gun
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belonged to none other than Mary's
20:21
beloved brother in law, Paul
20:24
fresh Hour, husband to
20:26
Karen Sue. Mary
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was flabbergasted at
20:32
first when police told her the
20:34
gun belonged to Paul. She refused
20:36
to believe it. There must have
20:39
been a mistake. She insisted. Paul
20:42
and his wife, Karen Sue, had
20:45
been her rocks after she'd lost
20:47
Ron, karen Sue's brother,
20:50
and though she hadn't seen as much of them lately,
20:52
she still considered them family. The
20:56
idea that he could have set
20:58
such a cruel trap for her, never
21:00
mind that he might have been behind the letters
21:02
all along, was unthinkable, but
21:06
the authorities confirmed it with the
21:08
seller of the gun, Paul
21:10
fresh Hour was undoubtedly its
21:12
owner. As
21:15
it turned out, the fresh Hours
21:17
were in the middle of an acrimonious divorce
21:19
at the time. This was a stroke
21:21
of luck for the police investigation.
21:24
If the couple did have something to hide,
21:27
maybe they'd be more inclined to turn
21:29
on each other now that their marriage
21:32
was over, and when
21:34
the police went to interview Karen Sue,
21:37
she was more than willing to talk. According
21:47
to Karen Sue, she and Paul
21:49
had been very close with the Gillespies
21:51
when they were first married, but back
21:53
in nineteen seventy seven, Paul
21:56
became convinced that Mary was
21:58
having an affair with Goaudon and Massey
22:01
and was furious at her for it. Incredibly,
22:05
according to Karen Sue,
22:07
Paul had been the writer of the letters
22:09
all along. She told
22:11
investigators that she first knew it
22:13
was him after finding one of the
22:15
letters torn up in their bathroom. Soon
22:18
after that, she said, she searched
22:21
the house and found two more letters
22:23
among Paul's things. But
22:26
when investigators spoke to Paul,
22:28
he denied any wrongdoing.
22:32
Yes, the gun was his, he said, but
22:34
according to him, it had been
22:36
stolen weeks before Mary
22:38
found it. He had nothing
22:41
to do with the letters, he insisted, and
22:43
would never dream of trying to harm
22:45
Mary. Paul
22:48
allowed the police to conduct a thorough
22:50
search of his house and his car, and
22:53
gave them samples of its handwriting
22:55
to prove that he hadn't written the letters.
22:58
He also agreed to take a polygraph
23:01
test, but he failed.
23:05
Though such tests have been widely
23:07
discredited as a means of establishing
23:09
guilt. On top of owning the
23:11
gun and Karen Sue's testimony,
23:14
this proved to be the final nail
23:16
in his coffin for the police.
23:19
Shortly after he failed the polygraph
23:21
test, Paul fresh Hour was
23:24
arrested for the attempted murder
23:26
of Mary Gillespie.
23:34
Although Paul fresh Hour was never charged
23:37
with writing any of the Circleville letters,
23:40
they played a central role in his trial.
23:43
The prosecution clearly figured that
23:45
in order to convince a jury that Paul
23:47
had tried to kill Mary, they first
23:50
had to establish that he was the one
23:52
who'd been tormenting her for years.
23:55
Paul's lawyers tried to exclude
23:57
the letters from the trial, arguing
23:59
that because they didn't contain any
24:02
explicit threats to Mary's life,
24:04
they were irrelevant to the charge at
24:06
hand. The judge
24:08
agreed in part, but still allowed
24:11
more than thirty of the letters to be
24:13
admitted as evidence. A
24:16
handwriting expert for the prosecution
24:18
testified about three different pieces
24:21
of evidence the letters,
24:23
the sign attached to the booby trap
24:26
and a sample of Paul's handwriting.
24:29
He stated that there were significant
24:31
similarities between them all and
24:34
that in his expert opinion, Paul
24:37
was the sole writer. Paul's
24:40
fingerprints weren't found anywhere
24:42
on the gun or the box, and he
24:45
had a decent alibi for most of
24:47
the day that Mary had found the trap.
24:50
But in the end, these glaring
24:52
holes in the prosecution's case weren't
24:55
enough. The
24:57
jury found him guilty of attempted
24:59
murder, and he was given the maximum
25:01
sentence of seven to twenty five
25:04
years behind bars. Mary
25:07
testified against Paul at the trial,
25:09
and as painful as the whole process had
25:12
been, she no doubt felt a
25:14
sense of relief when the verdict was
25:16
read out. At
25:18
last, She thought the nightmare
25:20
was finally over. But after
25:23
Paul went to prison, the letters
25:25
didn't stop, not even
25:28
close. In fact,
25:30
during the decade that Paul spent behind
25:33
bars, hundreds more anonymous
25:35
creeds were sent. Journalists
25:38
who'd covered Paul's trial received
25:40
letters, as did Paul. Fresh
25:43
hour, Now, when are you going
25:46
to believe you aren't getting out of there?
25:48
The taunting letter read, no
25:51
one wants you out. The joke
25:53
is on you. Some
25:55
have suggested that Paul could have
25:58
simply sent a letter to himself as
26:00
a way to cover his tracks, but
26:02
according to the prison warden, it
26:04
would have been physically impossible for him
26:07
to send any letters from prison. All
26:10
of his communications were closely
26:12
monitored, and he had no access
26:14
to pens or paper. Some
26:17
reports indicate that he was even
26:19
kept in isolation for large
26:21
stretches of his sentence. So
26:24
there are three logical possibilities.
26:27
Either Paul was the writer of the letters
26:30
and somehow found a way to post them
26:32
from prison, or somebody else
26:34
to cup the mantle after he was sent
26:36
away, or he
26:39
was entirely innocent. Incredibly,
26:50
since the Circleville letters were
26:52
not part of Paul's conviction, the
26:54
fact that they continued after his arrest
26:57
had no bearing on his case. After
27:00
serving ten and a half years in prison
27:02
for attempted murder, he was finally
27:05
released in nineteen ninety four. In
27:08
one final bizarre twist, the
27:10
letters abruptly stopped for good
27:12
as soon as Paul was free.
27:16
For his part, Paul maintained
27:18
his innocence and accused Karen
27:20
Sue of framing him. His
27:23
defense lawyer even raised this possibility
27:25
at the trial arguing that she
27:27
was the only person who had something
27:30
to gain by Paul going to prison,
27:33
but she was never considered an official
27:35
suspect. Paul
27:37
spent the rest of his life trying
27:39
in vain to clear his name, writing
27:42
multiple times to the FBI about
27:45
his conviction, the letters,
27:47
and the mysterious circumstances of
27:50
Bron Gillespie's death in
27:53
twenty twelve at the age of
27:55
seventy, he died, taking
27:58
with him any hope of a genuine,
28:01
concrete answer to the mystery. As
28:05
compelling evidence both for and
28:07
against Paul. The fact
28:09
that the letters continued while he was in prison
28:12
strongly suggests to many that he couldn't
28:14
possibly have been the author. But
28:17
recently, the American CBS
28:20
program forty eight Hours conducted
28:23
a new independent analysis
28:25
of the letters. Forensic
28:28
document expert Beverly East
28:30
examined forty nine of them alongside
28:33
samples of Paul's handwriting, looking
28:36
for distinctive traits that they had in
28:38
common. She concluded
28:40
that he was beyond any
28:43
shadow of a doubt the writer of
28:45
the letters, but
28:47
to this day, the true culprit
28:50
behind them has never been conclusively
28:53
identify it. This
29:01
episode was written by Emma Dibden
29:04
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