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The world of horror is littered
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with unnerving locations,
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places that draw from and have in turn
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seeped into the public imagination.
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There are the places of what we commonly
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call the natural world, seemingly
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imbued with a timeless spirit that
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transcends the human imagination.
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The mystical Island mountain, the
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Luru, also known as as
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rock found deep in the Australian
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Outback, or the mythical rocky
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outcrops and abandoned mines of
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Cheshire's Olderly Edge in England,
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as evocatively portrayed in the work
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of Alan Ghana, to name but
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two. Then there
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are the places of the natural world that
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we often find portrayed metaphorically
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as extensions of our own site psychees.
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We often talk of the dark, foreboding
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forest or the ominous deep
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black lake. We like
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to consider them Youngian or
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Freudian locations of the subconscious
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that hint at something terrifying, lurking
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deeper within or just below
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the surface, something unseen
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pulling at us, daring us to confront
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an unsettled past or
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innermost fear. Perhaps the
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psychological effect of these places
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is generated by our own projections.
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They become in the post modernist sense,
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not places but spaces
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whose ability to unnervous is
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dependent on our own individual
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perspective. The fears
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supposedly encapsulated within
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them are our own to decipher
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and overcome. But
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in truth, as far as we know, such
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places don't declare themselves
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to have any emotional meaning whatsoever.
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The dark forest does not set
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out to be any more foreboding than
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a white sandy beach, And
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if it did, to ask if it intended
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to be ominous, eerie, or weird,
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would require us to communicate in
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a language that we don't currently
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speak. Far more
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chilling, therefore, are those places
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that require us to cross a genuine
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threshold to enter, Places
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that constitute worlds that
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are resolutely not our own
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to interpret human
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constructions, locations
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that might not only house our darkest,
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unconscious fears, but physically
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embody those of others too.
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You're listening to Unexplained and
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I'm Richard McLean Smith.
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In his Gothic masterpiece The
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Fall of the House of Usher, Maestro
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of the Macabre, Edgar Allan Poe,
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presents to us as stately building,
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as alive with eye like
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windows, and as foreboding
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as any of its gloomy inhabitants.
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Its manifestation, which is also
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a metaphor for the Usher family themselves,
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is so inextricably linked with
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the souls of the eponymous Madeline
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and Roderick Usher, that, upon
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their death, it is immediately split
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in two by a great fissure
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from its roof to its base, before
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it crumbles to pieces. Moving
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from the realms of the weird towards
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something a little closer to horror.
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If we travel along Route thirty nine
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towards Ashton, turn left
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onto Route five, past the
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small village of Hillsdale, and
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up into the high lands beyond, we
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might, if we are unfortunate, find
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ourselves chancing upon the gates
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of Hill House. This
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most unnerving of places
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marks the main location for Shirley
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Jackson's chilling classic The
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Haunting of Hill House, often
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considered one of the finest haunted
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house stories ever written. In
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Jackson's novel, Hill House,
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seen of a number of troubling deaths
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throughout its eighty year existence,
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becomes the focus for a paranormal
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investigation led by psychical
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researcher Dr John Montague.
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Montague is aided by a group of assistants
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selected because of their past paranormal
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experiences in the hope
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that they will be especially receptive to
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anything supernatural that may
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or may not be occurring there. It
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is primarily through the perspective of Eleanor,
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one of the assistants, that we become
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acquainted with the number of increasingly
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disturbing events that take place.
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However, as the novel reaches its
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tragic conclusion, we are left to
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wonder whether anything at all had occurred,
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or if we had merely been witnessing the
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unraveling of Eleanor's mind.
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Doctor Montague insists the
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evil is the house itself, and
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whether it had been by design or
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simply the idea of the
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house's ghoulish history pressing
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in something of the building
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had got inside her head. A
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similar theme emerges in many
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true life cases of alleged domestic
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supernatural disturbances, such
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as those that took place at thirty East
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Drive in Pontefract or at
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number two hundred and eighty four Green
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Street in Enfield. In
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these stories, we find the recurring
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notion that any new resident of the
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property is an invader, occupying
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a space that isn't theirs to occupy.
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At time times, it might seem
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that in some way or another, the
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property itself has developed a
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spirit all of its own. For
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me, although Robert Clatworthy
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and Joseph Hurley's iconic
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Bates Mansion as depicted
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in Alfred Hitchcock's Psycho, comes
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a close second, the true
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House of Horror comes, complete
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with its own abbatoirs, bespoke
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skin clad interiors, and
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a fridge stocked with bloody
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meat. You may recognize
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it as the family home of Leatherface,
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disturbingly depicted in Toby
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Hooper's mesmerizingly deranged
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The Texas Chainsaw Massacre. Leaving
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aside the more cerebral interpretations
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of Hooper's classic, such as
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it being a metaphor for the cannibalistic
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tendencies of capitalism,
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personally, on a simply sceral
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level, watching The Texas Chainsaw
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Massacre for the first time was to be
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exposed to a level of horror previously
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beyond the comprehension of my teenage
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mind. What all
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the aforementioned fictional buildings
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have in common is that they are locations
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so inextricably linked to their
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original occupants or
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to the unsavory events that occurred
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within them, they have become inseparable
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from them. There is the sense
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that, even if they were empty, they
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continue to incubate the things
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that have happened inside.
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They are places of events so
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unfathomably monstrous that
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no level of will can expunge them
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from the space. Incidentally,
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Psycho and the Texas Chainsaw Massacre
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were partly based on the life of murderer
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Ed Geene, whose proclivity
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for manufacturing ornaments and furniture
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from human bone and skin can
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tee U news to shock the world. More
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than sixty years later, after
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Geene's conviction, it was decided
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that his house should be torn down. So
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incapable were the local community from
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separating the location from the events
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that had taken place inside, there
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was no other option but to remove
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it entirely above
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all other locations. Surely,
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the hotel is the creepiest
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of dwellings, both in fiction
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and fact. It's
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little wonder when you consider all the
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daily comings and goings of
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hundreds of unrelated guests,
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not to mention all those who'd come
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before them, so many
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events and bodies criss
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crossing through time. The hotel
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is a chaotic clash of psychical
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intersections, all held together
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in one singular place. Some
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may be familiar with HH Homes and
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his Murder Castle, formerly
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located on the corner of South Wallace
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and sixty Third near Jackson
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Park in Chicago.
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Holmes began construction of his
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two story multi purpose building in
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eighteen eighty seven, which was home
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to a variety of commercial properties
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and private apartments. Five
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years later, he added a third
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floor with the apparent intention
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of taking advantage of the many tourists
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due to visit the city for the World's
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Columbian Exhibition later
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known as the World's Fair. That
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Holmes was a ruthless serial
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killer is in little doubt as
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to whether he really killed over two hundred
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people squirreling their bodies away
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in secret passages and channels
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that he'd built purposely into
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his infamous hotel. Is
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anyone's guests. Holmes's
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Murder Castle was eventually burned
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down by the man himself in
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an insurance scam shortly
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before his capture in eighteen ninety
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four and subsequent execution
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two years later. Fans
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of Stephen King have the Stanley Hotel
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of Esther's Park in Colorado
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to thank for inspiring his most iconic
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location, situated
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overlooking Lake Esters in the shadow
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of the Rockies. It was there, in nineteen
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seventy four that King spent
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a fortnight terrorized by
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nightmarish visions of his three year
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old son being chased through
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the hotel's corridors by something
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dreadful and unseen. As
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you may have guessed, these night terrors
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would inspire King to write The Shining,
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with the Overlook Hotel replacing
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those disquieting halls of the Stanley.
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There will be few who've peered down
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the corridors of King's Overlook who
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don't feel something of those nightmares
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he experienced back in seventy
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four, or who fail to sense
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something of the strange and eerie in
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almost any hotel they've stayed
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in. Since there
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is one hotel that, for reasons
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we will soon explore, holds
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a special place in the pantheon
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of hotels with a strange
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and sinister past. In
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twenty thirteen, this place
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became host to one of the most
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disturbing and tragic deaths
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of recent times, a
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mystery that remains to this day
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unexplained. Sarah
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Scandalesa's Facebook and Twitter
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pages. Again knowing
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her sister's avid use of social media,
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it seemed unuws usual that she hadn't posted
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anything in the last twenty four
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hours. Meanwhile, her
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father, David tried Elsa's
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number one more time as
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her anxious mother, Yena, watched
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on. David held
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the phone to his ear and gazed out at
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the window as an afternoon sun
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threatened to break through the clouds.
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Concern rippled across his face when
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the call once again clicked
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through to voicemail.
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Ordinarily, it wouldn't be unusual
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that a twenty one year old woman on a
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solo trip to Los Angeles might
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forget to call home once in a while.
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But this was Eliza, and they had
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an agreement. She could take the trip
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on one condition that she called
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in with her parents every day to
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let them know she was safe. And
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besides, Eliza was happy
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to do it, she knew how difficult
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the last few years had been on them.
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Sarah scrolled through Elsa's
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pages again. Her last
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tweet was from twenty seventh of January
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twenty thirteen, five days
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ago. It read speakeasy
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in block capitals, but that
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was back in San Diego.
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Then there were the photos from the zoo,
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also in San Diego, and
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finally, the live recording of a conan
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O'Brien show in La that she'd
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attended two nights back. She
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seemed to be having a great time. Sarah
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told her parents not to worry, that
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it was probably nothing, but suggested
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they'd try calling the hotel just
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in case. Where did she say
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she was staying again, She said the
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Stay on Maine. David
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pulled up the number and called it, immediately,
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relieved to finally have a voice to
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speak with on the other end of the phone.
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Yina and Sarah watched expectantly
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as David spoke to the front desk. Their
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relief at the prospect of finally getting
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some information soon turned
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to worry at the look on David's
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face as he hung up. Elisa
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had been due to check out that morning,
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he explained, only she'd never
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appeared and wasn't in her
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room with a new
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guests set to use it. The hotel
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would keep her things in the basement until
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she returned. He
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shouldn't be too concerned, they said, there
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could be any number of reasons why his daughter
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wasn't there. David
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tried to remain optimistic, but
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couldn't shake the gnawing in the pit of his
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stomach. Something
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was wrong. Friday
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evenings were one of the busiest at Pause
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on Hastings Street, North Burnaby,
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the Chinese restaurant owned and run
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by David and Yena. It
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was a small but popular place in the quiet
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Vancouver suburb, distinguished
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by its large yellow light box at
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the front. The family
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had arrived from Hong Kong in two thousand
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and three, and since then they
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and their restaurant had become a much
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loved asset to the local community,
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serving some of the best valued Chinese
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food that side of Vancouver. On
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that night of Friday, February first,
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however, Yina and David were
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finding it increasingly difficult to
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focus, and as the customers
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continued to arrive, their distraction
15:38
was becoming noticeable. Unable
15:41
to hold off any longer, the pair
15:43
decided to make the call. A
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short time later, David stood
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in the kitchen waiting to be put
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through to the Royal Canadian Mounted
15:52
Police to make an official report
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that his youngest daughter, Elisa
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Lamb, was missing. Though
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there was some relief to finally
16:03
have the police involved, it was quickly
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tempered when they were told that nothing
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much could be done until the following
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morning. That
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night, the Lamb family failed
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to get any sleep as they waited
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desperately for any contact from
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their daughter. Having
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made the call on a weekend, it wasn't
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until Monday that the Los Angeles
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Police's Missing Persons Unit
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was alerted to Elisa's disappearance,
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and it wasn't until the following day
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that a call was put through to detectives
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Wallace, to Nelly and Greg
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Stearns of the LAPDS
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Robberies and Homicides Division
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to formally begin the investigation.
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The timing could not have been worse.
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The department would never want to be seen
16:53
to prioritize one case over another,
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but it had been understandably distracted.
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Two days previously, in Orange
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County, a young woman and her fiance
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had been shot in their car after
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a night out. Such
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a killing was rare enough, but that
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the woman, twenty eight year old
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Monica Quan, happened to be
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the daughter of former LAPD
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Captain Randall Quan had
17:19
hit the department hard. When
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a manifesto claiming responsibility
17:24
for the crimes appeared online
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the following day, written by
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former LAPD officer Christopher
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Dorner, all hell broke
17:34
loose. Nonetheless,
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the Lambs couldn't have had a better
17:39
person for the job than detective
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to Nelli, a man who knew
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only too well what they were
17:46
going through. In
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two thousand and seven, on a mild
17:56
May evening, Wallace to Nelly,
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had just wandered out to his garage
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when a young girl trembling
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and with tears in her eyes approached
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the house. Wallis recognized
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her as his neighbour and a friend
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of his youngest son, Bryant. He
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recognized too the bloodstained
18:17
cap clutched in her hands, which
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belonged to Bryant. Wallace
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learned soon after that his eighteen year
18:25
old son had been shot in
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the head at point blank range, only
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blocks away from their home. He
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died later that night. To
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Nellie, a diligent and methodical
18:38
worker, listened patiently in his
18:40
Los Angeles office to the missing
18:42
person's officer on the other end of
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the line in Vancouver, making
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a note of the important details. Age
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twenty one Chinese
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Canadian, five foot four
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with long black hair and brown eyes,
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and weighing approximately one hundred
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feet fifteen pounds. Name
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Elisa Lamb. Last
19:05
known location stay on
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Maine Hostel on South Main
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Street, part of the Cecil
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Hotel building. To Nelly
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knew it Well. It's
19:17
located on Seventh and Maine
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Downtown, formerly a major
19:21
business and financial district, once
19:24
referred to as the Wall Street of the
19:26
West. By twenty thirteen,
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it was home to the city's skid Row
19:31
neighborhood, one of the largest
19:34
stable populations of homeless
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in the United States. Although
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there are many who be quick to portray it
19:42
as a no go area for that very
19:44
reason, that wasn't an immediate
19:46
concern to Tonelli. Yes
19:49
there was crime there, much like any
19:51
other bustling city of the world, but
19:54
petty theft and drug dealing was
19:56
one thing. The possible murder
19:58
of a Canadian tourist, if
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that was what he was dealing with, was
20:02
quite another. In
20:05
fact, due to a recent relaxing of
20:07
development laws, the area was
20:09
experiencing a quiet upturn in
20:11
fortunes and had become an increasingly
20:14
popular location for tourists keen
20:17
to take advantage of its comparatively
20:19
low rates. As
20:21
for the Cecil Hotel, that
20:24
remained something of a local oddity,
20:27
a stubborn but long since faded
20:29
paean to a distant, more glorious
20:32
past. It's
20:34
hard to imagine it now, but the
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Cecil, built at a cost of
20:38
one million dollars, was once
20:40
considered one of the more glamorous establishments
20:43
of the area. Opened
20:45
in nineteen twenty five to great
20:47
fanfare in all its Beaux
20:50
Arts grandeur, the Cecil,
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comprising of seven hundred rooms
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across fourteen floors, was
20:57
opulently decorated throughout
20:59
with marks, bubble, and pretty mosaic
21:01
patterns. Its
21:03
lobby a grand Art Deco
21:06
fantasy of the finest stained
21:08
glass and brass.
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No more than five years after opening,
21:13
however, a global depression triggered
21:16
by the Wall Street Crash took
21:18
hold. Within ten
21:20
years, many of the city's banks
21:22
and businesses had gone under, taking
21:25
with them the vibrant nightlife
21:27
and movie theaters of Downtown's
21:29
Broadway district. As
21:41
the wealthier residents of Downtown
21:43
LA flocked to the suburbs in
21:45
the forties and fifties, the
21:47
region's bubble had well and truly
21:49
burst over the next
21:52
fifty years, Although you might have
21:54
still found fragments of its former
21:56
majesty peeking out from under
21:58
its yellowed and peel wallpaper,
22:01
the Cecil eventually became home
22:03
to a number of transient and low
22:06
income residents. Its
22:08
once pristine facade steadily
22:10
fading along with its prices.
22:14
In two thousand and seven, three floors
22:17
of the Cecil were given over to
22:19
a team of designers hoping to
22:21
capitalize on Downtown's recent
22:23
gentrification. The
22:26
following year, the Stay on Maine
22:28
opened its doors for the first time,
22:31
covering floors four to six of
22:34
the original building. It promised
22:36
a boutique hotel experience
22:38
for the cost conscious traveler. Despite
22:41
some early teething problems, the
22:44
Stay on Maine quickly established
22:46
itself as one of the better low
22:48
cost hostels in Los Angeles,
22:51
and it was easy to see why it
22:53
might have appealed to Elisa. But
22:56
there was one other thing about the Cecil,
22:59
something that you wouldn't find on any
23:01
hotel listing, something
23:04
rather unsavory. The
23:13
first to die was forty six
23:15
year old W. K. Norton.
23:18
His body was found in his room in
23:20
November nineteen thirty one after
23:23
ingesting poison capsules.
23:27
Next came twenty five year old
23:29
Benjamin Dodditch, found
23:31
by a maid one morning in September
23:34
nineteen thirty two, dead
23:36
from a self inflicted gunshot wound
23:39
to the head, the remnants of which
23:41
remained stained on the walls for
23:43
months. Former
23:46
Army Medical Corps Sergeant
23:48
Louis Borden fifty three,
23:51
was found dead in July nineteen
23:53
thirty four. After
23:55
Borden checked in one evening, he
23:58
proceeded to write suicide notes to
24:00
various members of his family, then
24:02
slit his throat with a razor. The
24:06
first of the jumpers was Grace maygro
24:09
in March nineteen thirty seven. She
24:12
dropped from the ninth floor of the hotel,
24:14
only for her four to be broken by
24:17
telephone wires strung across
24:19
main street below. She
24:21
later died at a nearby hospital.
24:25
In January the following year. Marine
24:28
fire fighter Roy Thompson had
24:30
been staying at the hotel for several weeks
24:33
when maids discovered he hadn't been
24:35
in his room for days. He
24:37
was found dead on the skylight of a
24:39
neighboring building, having presumably
24:42
leapt from the top floor. Robert
24:45
Smith and Helen Gurney jumped
24:48
from the seventh floor in nineteen forty
24:50
seven and nineteen fifty four, respectively.
24:54
Julia Francis Moore did
24:56
the same from the eighth in nineteen
24:58
sixty two, and later
25:00
that year police investigated
25:03
what they assumed to be the double suicide
25:06
of twenty seven year old Pauline
25:08
Otton and sixty five year
25:10
old George Giannini. However,
25:13
they later concluded that it was
25:15
Otton who leapt from the building
25:18
and accidentally collided into Giannini
25:21
on the street below, killing
25:23
him instantly. In
25:25
December nineteen seventy five,
25:28
a still unidentified woman is
25:30
believed to have leapt to her death from
25:32
a twelfth floor window. Then
25:35
there were the other suicides through poison.
25:38
W. K. Norton's being the first
25:41
Navy officer erwin Neblett
25:43
in nineteen thirty nine and
25:45
Dorothy Scheiger the year after,
25:48
both found dead in their rooms
25:50
by staff, And although
25:52
there is no putting a grade on such
25:55
a litany of tragedy, perhaps
25:57
the most shocking death to occur at the
25:59
Cecil was that of a newborn
26:01
baby in nineteen forty four.
26:05
Nineteen year old Dorothy Purcell
26:07
had recently moved in with Cecil
26:09
resident thirty eight year old Ben
26:12
Levine when she found herself
26:14
going into labor. Unaware
26:17
that she had even been pregnant, and not
26:19
wanting to disturb Levin, she
26:22
stumbled to the bathroom and
26:24
almost immediately gave birth
26:26
to a baby boy, apparently
26:29
in a state of post natal shock,
26:31
Dorothee believed the child to be
26:34
dead and threw it out
26:36
of the window. In
26:39
the summer of nineteen sixty four,
26:42
retired telephone operator and
26:44
full time resident of the Cecil, Goldie
26:47
Osgoode, was found raped,
26:50
stabbed, and beaten to death in her
26:52
room. Her murder remains
26:54
unsolved to this day. All
26:57
in all, fourteen deaths
27:00
by unnatural causes, and
27:03
that wasn't everything. According
27:12
to former Cecil hotel resident
27:15
Raoul Enriquez, in late
27:18
July and August of nineteen eighty
27:20
five, when rates had dropped
27:22
as low as fourteen dollars a night,
27:24
he lived next door to a man
27:27
on the fourteenth floor who introduced
27:29
himself to him as Richard. Richard
27:33
said he was from Sia Dad Juarez
27:35
in Mexico.
27:38
This Richard would turn out
27:40
to be twenty five year old Richard
27:42
Ramirez, who between April
27:45
nineteen eighty four and August nineteen
27:47
eighty five brutally murdered
27:50
at least sixteen people, raping
27:53
and mutilating many of his victims
27:55
before his eventual capture and arrest.
27:59
His horrific crimes often
28:01
perpetrated after walking into people's
28:03
homes at random would land him
28:06
the nickname the knight Stalker.
28:09
Then in nineteen ninety one, it
28:12
is thought that Jack Untervega stayed
28:15
at the Cecil Hotel over
28:17
a period of time in which he terrorized,
28:20
raped, and murdered at least three
28:22
women. Untevega
28:25
had previously been convicted for murder
28:27
in Austria after strangling
28:29
an eighteen year old woman to death in
28:32
nineteen seventy four. While
28:34
in prison, he began to write about
28:36
his experiences, reflecting
28:39
on the nature of his crime. His
28:41
work earned plaudits from the country's
28:44
literary elite, with his novel
28:46
Purgatory even becoming a best
28:48
seller. By the time of
28:50
his release in nineteen ninety he
28:53
was a national celebrity and widely
28:55
heralded as a model of rehabilitation.
28:58
A year later, Unterevega was
29:00
commissioned to write a radio piece
29:03
about sex work. It was
29:05
during a research trip for this piece
29:07
that he murdered the three women. Having
29:11
gone on the run after committing the murders
29:13
in Los Angeles, Untevega was
29:16
eventually caught and arrested in Miami
29:18
in February nineteen ninety two, when
29:21
it transpired that he had in fact
29:23
killed at least eight women since
29:26
his release in nineteen ninety.
29:29
Some have suggested that Untervega
29:32
decided to stay at the Cecil because
29:34
of its association with Richard Ramirez,
29:37
as if the hotel had effectively
29:40
drawn him in with the screams
29:42
of its past, a sinister
29:45
siren call broadcast on
29:47
only the rarest of frequencies.
29:50
There are some, too, who claim it was
29:53
no accident that Ramirez
29:55
himself found its way to the
29:57
Cecil, nor why
29:59
so much dead and depravity had
30:01
been concentrated in this forgotten
30:04
corner of La. They
30:06
say there was always something unsettled
30:09
about the place, something
30:11
dark and unfathomable that lingered
30:14
within its many dimly lit
30:16
corridors. To some,
30:19
it seemed sometimes as
30:22
though the building itself was
30:24
alive. You've
30:29
been listening to part one of Unexplained
30:32
Season seven, episode fourteen,
30:36
If These Walls Could Scream.
30:39
Part two will be released next Friday,
30:42
January twenty sixth. This
30:45
episode was written by Richard McLain
30:48
smith. Unexplained as an Avy
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by Richard McClain smith. All
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other elements of the podcast, including the
30:57
music, were also produced by me.
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