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Season 07 Episode 18: A Dance with Mr. Dee (Pt.2 of 4)

Season 07 Episode 18: A Dance with Mr. Dee (Pt.2 of 4)

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Season 07 Episode 18: A Dance with Mr. Dee (Pt.2 of 4)

Season 07 Episode 18: A Dance with Mr. Dee (Pt.2 of 4)

Season 07 Episode 18: A Dance with Mr. Dee (Pt.2 of 4)

Season 07 Episode 18: A Dance with Mr. Dee (Pt.2 of 4)

Friday, 29th March 2024
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0:10

You're listening to part two of Unexplained,

0:13

Season seven, episode eighteen,

0:16

A Dance with Mister d.

0:25

It is late October in fifteen

0:27

fifty eight. Queen Mary

0:30

is bedbound in her chambers at

0:32

Saint James's Palace in London. She

0:35

flitters from bouts of lucidity

0:38

to states of deep confusion in

0:40

the grip of some terrible malady.

0:44

At times, she calls out in

0:46

the middle of the night in distress,

0:49

saying that she has gone blind, she

0:52

is dying. Mary's

0:55

life had not been an easy one. As

0:58

a child, she suffered from constant

1:00

fevers, depression, and anorexia,

1:04

not surprising considering the

1:06

cruelty of her father, Henry

1:08

the Eighth. When

1:11

her mother, Catherine of Arrogant,

1:13

was ostracized after Henry jettisoned

1:15

her for Anne Boleyn, Mary

1:18

was forbidden from seeing her, and,

1:20

as he did with her mother, Henry

1:23

often threatened Mary with

1:25

death, and it was no empty threat

1:27

at that. He called

1:29

her illegitimate and denied

1:32

her the right to call herself a princess.

1:35

When Mary's mother finally succumbed

1:38

to illness in fifteen thirty five,

1:41

Mary was denied the opportunity

1:43

to say her goodbyes. As

1:46

Mary lay dying in October

1:48

fifteen fifty eight, some believed

1:51

she'd finally succumb to the melancholy

1:54

that had dogged her all her life,

1:56

though it is more likely she was suffering

1:59

from an aspecse vily virulent strain

2:01

of influenza that swept across

2:03

Europe that year. Towards

2:06

the end, she would come round from

2:09

bouts of fever to tell of the

2:11

extraordinary dreams she'd been

2:13

having and the visions of young

2:15

angelic children she'd

2:17

seen dancing around her

2:19

bed. In the

2:21

early hours of November seventeenth,

2:24

a deep gasp escaped her lips,

2:28

her rib cage expanded for one

2:30

last time, and then

2:32

her body was still. The

2:35

queen was dead.

2:39

Earlier that month, the Catholic

2:41

Mary amended her will to

2:43

confirm that her sister, the Protestant

2:46

leaning Elizabeth, would be her

2:48

rightful successor, and

2:51

so a week after Mary's

2:53

death, Elizabeth arrived in

2:55

London to a rapturous reception

2:57

from her supporters. As

3:00

city dignitaries stood in line to

3:02

greet her, Elizabeth offered

3:05

her hand to be kissed by each of them.

3:08

One after another, took it and

3:10

planted a soft kiss on the outside

3:13

of her glove. But when Elizabeth

3:15

got to Catholic Bishop Edmund

3:18

Bonner, John Dee's employer

3:21

and the man who'd done so much to

3:23

root out Mary's Protestant enemies,

3:26

she withdrew her hand before

3:28

he had a chance to take it. Elizabeth

3:32

herself had at one point

3:34

been held under arrest in the Tower

3:36

of London, accused of plotting

3:39

against Queen Mary.

3:42

It was not a good sign for Bonner

3:45

or his fellow Catholic bishops and

3:47

their associates. But

3:49

while many would soon find themselves

3:52

exiled or imprisoned indefinitely,

3:55

John d miraculously

3:58

once again escaped to

4:00

the worst of it. Chief

4:08

among Elizabeth's immediate concerns

4:11

was selecting a date for her coronation,

4:13

and the stakes could not have been higher.

4:17

Though she had no immediate realistic

4:19

challenges to the throne, her position

4:22

was a precarious one. A

4:24

deeply unsettled nation was

4:26

about to welcome its fourth monarch

4:28

in just over five years. That

4:31

Elizabeth was female only

4:33

made the job of asserting her authority

4:36

or the more difficult. Many

4:39

openly despised the sheer idea

4:42

of women in positions of power or

4:44

as influential Scottish minister

4:47

John Knox put it, such

4:49

a thing was repugnant to

4:52

nature. On top

4:54

of that, where a series of strange,

4:57

unsettling prophecies coming

4:59

from across channel in France, made

5:02

by a man named Michel de

5:04

Nostre Dame or Nostrodamis.

5:09

He predicted that when Elizabeth took

5:11

the throne, England would suffer

5:13

many calamities, weepings

5:16

and mournings, with civil unrest

5:18

in which the lowest in society would

5:21

rise up against the highest. Like

5:24

most people of the time, Queen Elizabeth

5:27

was deeply superstitious and convinced

5:30

of the power of astrology. She

5:32

wanted to make sure that the day of

5:34

her coronation was one that could

5:37

give her the most luck for a successful

5:39

reign, one that the very

5:41

stars in the sky had

5:43

picked out for her. She

5:46

needed not just someone

5:48

of high learning to calculate it

5:50

for her, but someone with a

5:52

suggestion of sorcery and

5:54

arcane knowledge about them, someone

5:58

who people felt would bring more

6:00

more than mere logic to the equation

6:02

to help prevent the dire predictions

6:05

from coming true. There

6:07

was nobody better for it

6:09

than John d At

6:12

the time d still lived in

6:14

Upton, just outside of the city

6:17

of London. There, the local

6:19

children was said to run screaming

6:21

from him in fright. Such was

6:24

his growing reputation as a magician

6:26

and conjurer. Only

6:29

a few weeks after Mary's death, d

6:31

received the request to make a judgment

6:34

on what would be the best day for

6:36

Elizabeth to begin her reign. No

6:40

sooner had he received it, d was

6:42

in his library frantically searching

6:44

his shelves for any ancient

6:47

texts to seek out precedents

6:49

and auguries of good fortune

6:51

for the day. Having

6:53

compiled everything he needed, he

6:56

drew up a horoscope and concluded

6:58

that January the fifth, fifteenth fifteen

7:01

fifty nine was the optimum

7:04

day. As

7:06

was explained to the Queen in waiting

7:08

later on that day, Jupiter

7:11

would be in Aquarius, which promised

7:14

impending greatness and statesmanship,

7:17

while Mars was in Scorpio,

7:20

meaning that Elizabeth would have the necessary

7:23

passion and commitment to be

7:25

the country's monarch. Elizabeth

7:29

was impressed. Queen

7:38

Elizabeth's coronation was an all

7:40

day spectacle, involving the

7:42

new queen being taken through the

7:44

throng streets of London on a golden

7:47

litter, essentially a large

7:49

ornate box carried by servants.

7:53

The parade was embellished with a series

7:55

of five pageants designed

7:57

to be essentially brand establishing

7:59

propaganda. The pageant

8:02

themes variously stressed the

8:04

new monarch's virtuousness,

8:06

her Englishness, and her descent

8:08

from a family that had ended years

8:11

of civil war in England.

8:14

The fifth pageant drew parallels

8:16

between her and Deborah, an

8:18

Old Testament prophet who supposedly

8:21

rescued the House of Israel, then

8:23

ruled successfully for forty

8:26

years, and once again

8:28

John D was at the center of

8:31

it all. But not

8:33

long after Elizabeth was crowned,

8:35

D completely disappeared.

8:39

For several years, There was no historical

8:42

record of where he went and what

8:44

he was doing. The most

8:46

likely explanation is that he returned

8:48

to Europe in pursuit of a new

8:51

quest. When known

8:53

accounts of D resume in

8:55

February fifteen sixty three, he

8:58

was staying at an inn called the Sign

9:00

of the Golden Angel in Antwerp,

9:03

Belgium. This time,

9:06

it seems D's quest was

9:08

to understand the Kabbalah, a

9:10

mysterious text containing ancient

9:13

Hebrew knowledge based on mathematics

9:16

and mysticism going back to

9:18

the first century. This

9:20

text was said to contain

9:23

the secrets of the universe. Among

9:26

its most important insights was

9:28

the apparent role of angels,

9:30

who were said to provide the key to

9:33

understanding God. Antwerp

9:36

was a bustling merchant town as

9:39

well as home to numerous printing presses

9:41

and publishing houses, with the booksellers

9:44

galore, which was why

9:46

D was there. He was

9:48

hunting a rumored copy of one

9:50

of the most secret valuable

9:52

manuscripts of the age,

9:55

of which there were said to be only three

9:57

or four copies in existence,

10:00

Called the Steganographia, It

10:03

was written by a German abbot called

10:05

Johannes Trithemius and

10:07

was essentially one of the first

10:09

ever works on cryptography

10:12

the science of codes. D

10:16

finally got his hands on a copy

10:18

and spent a feverish ten days

10:20

copying it out. The

10:22

book outlined an elaborate system

10:25

for sending messages between two people,

10:28

like an early version of the Second

10:30

World War German code making

10:32

machine, the Enigma, except

10:36

rather than utilizing a machine,

10:38

this system required the user

10:41

to utilize an incantation to

10:43

summon spirits, who would

10:45

then communicate the coded

10:47

transmissions between sender

10:50

and recipient. After

11:01

finding the steganographia, John

11:04

D was eager to return to England

11:07

and determined to make his way

11:09

into Queen Elizabeths in a circle.

11:12

He excitedly wrote to one of Elizabeth's

11:15

key advisers, William Cecil,

11:18

describing the mysterious book and

11:20

its rituals. He

11:22

believed it would be of great use

11:25

to the nation as it could help decipher

11:27

other texts like the Book of Souger,

11:30

thought to contain a divine message

11:32

from God, which was supposedly

11:35

written in the first ever language

11:37

that was spoken by Adam,

11:40

the first human being. But

11:43

Cecil, who had no time for

11:45

or belief in codes that required

11:48

invoking help from spirits, was

11:50

unimpressed. D

11:53

finally returned to England in June

11:55

fifteen sixty four and made

11:57

renewed attempts to secure a post

12:00

at the Royal Court. He

12:02

approached William Cecil again and

12:04

offered to take on the role as the Queen's

12:07

court philosopher. D

12:09

described how his years of travel,

12:12

his great knowledge, and his acquaintance

12:14

with many of the great thinkers of the day

12:17

meant that he was ideal for such a post.

12:20

He promised to bring the wealth of Renaissance,

12:22

Europe's finest thinking to

12:24

England, but again Cecil

12:28

was uninterested. Under

12:31

ThReD D made his way

12:33

to the Queen's court at Greenwich Palace,

12:36

accompanied by a noble woman who'd

12:38

offered to reintroduce him to the Queen.

12:41

A short time later, the tall and

12:43

slender D, with his long, pointy

12:46

beard, found himself in the royal

12:48

presence chamber, surrounded by

12:50

courtiers who chatted politely

12:53

among themselves as gentle

12:55

music from minstrels suffused

12:57

the room. Then eventually

13:00

he was brought before the sumptuously

13:02

clothed, bejeweled and

13:04

heavily perfumed Queen. Bowing

13:07

deeply, John D produced

13:10

a book from the folds of his gown.

13:13

It was the Monus Hieroglyphica,

13:16

a controversial text containing

13:18

what many considered to be pagan

13:20

magical ideas, including

13:23

astrology, cosmology, and

13:25

mathematics. It was

13:27

a huge gamble that could easily

13:29

have repulsed the Queen, but instead,

13:32

she was intrigued. She

13:35

asked D to stay and disclose

13:37

the book's secrets to her.

13:46

John D and Queen Elizabeth sat

13:48

side by side as D patiently

13:52

took her through the text Elizabeth

13:55

was entranced as D proceeded

13:57

to explain all about the strain

14:00

astrological symbols it contained.

14:03

After that, D gained regular

14:06

audiences with the Queen, the

14:08

kind of access that was most unusual

14:11

for someone who wasn't of noble

14:14

birth. Over the next

14:16

few years, he was frequently called

14:18

to court to converse with her, including

14:21

on matters of some intimacy, such

14:23

as her proposed marriage to the Duke

14:25

of Anjou. It

14:27

was said that the pair developed their own

14:30

code language to relay messages

14:32

to one another, and that they even

14:34

used code names for each other. In

14:37

his diaries, D used the

14:39

capital letter E topped

14:41

with a crown whenever he wrote

14:43

about Elizabeth. The

14:46

Queen who called D at this time

14:48

her special eyes denoted

14:51

him with two zeros to represent

14:53

eyes, followed by D's

14:55

favorite mystical number seven.

15:00

D became the first double O

15:02

seven agent in Her Majesty's service.

15:06

It was said that Elizabeth had

15:08

a strong sense of the cosmological

15:10

forces supposedly acting

15:12

on her, and that she felt D

15:15

provided the kind of mystical revelations

15:18

to help her govern which other

15:20

members of her administration could

15:22

not. She took to referring

15:25

to D as my philosopher.

15:29

When a strange wax effigy

15:31

of the Queen was found under a

15:33

tree in Lincoln's Inn Fields

15:35

in the center of London, stuck

15:37

all over with pig bristles, John

15:40

D was called on to determine

15:43

its meaning. When

15:45

the Queen suddenly fell ill of

15:47

an undiagnosed mystery illness,

15:50

D was once again called

15:52

to determine its severity. And

15:55

when one night an

15:57

unusually bright star was

15:59

observed in the sky, it

16:01

was D who was asked to decipher

16:04

what it meant. Despite

16:13

John D's devotion to the Queen and

16:15

what some believed was a magical

16:18

hold over her, he was never

16:20

offered the official position of court

16:22

philosopher that he so desired.

16:25

Nonetheless, D continued

16:27

his studies of astronomy, astrology,

16:31

alchemy and magic, with the

16:33

ultimate goal of understanding

16:35

the truth of the universe. In

16:38

fifteen sixty six, D moved

16:41

in with his mother, who lived in

16:43

a ramshackled, sprawling cottage

16:46

in Mortlake, a village by the

16:48

Thames about eight miles west

16:50

of London. On moving

16:52

in, D set about

16:55

arranging the massive collection of books

16:57

and manuscripts he'd amassed on

16:59

all his train. Among

17:01

them was Johannes de Burgo's occult

17:04

text Treatise on Magic

17:07

and Secretum Secretorum

17:09

are treatise on the Nature of Immortality

17:12

attributed to Aristotle. Before

17:16

long, D's mother's cottage

17:18

was transformed into one of the largest

17:21

libraries in Europe. It

17:23

was so big, D even added

17:25

extensions to the building, as

17:27

well as acquiring neighboring buildings

17:29

to house all the material. Neighbours

17:33

spoke of laboratories that he'd also

17:35

set up, full of all kinds

17:38

of apparatus containing unknown

17:40

substances that bubbled away

17:42

mysteriously. No

17:45

one saw his inner sanctum, though,

17:48

D's most private study, where

17:50

he stored his magical equipment and

17:53

books like Heinrich Cornelius

17:55

Agrippa's fifteen thirty one

17:57

Tome Diaculta for Low

18:00

Sophia about the powers

18:02

of magic. This

18:04

was a time of growing interest in

18:06

alchemy, a medieval type

18:08

of chemistry which its adherents

18:11

insisted could transform elements

18:14

and materials into other elements

18:16

and materials. The major

18:19

focus was to find a method

18:21

of converting base metals into

18:23

gold via a secret ingredient

18:26

known as the fabled Philosopher's

18:28

Stone not an object as

18:30

such, but rather a chemical

18:32

concoction. If one

18:34

could establish the correct recipe for

18:37

it, they could be wealthy beyond

18:39

their dreams. It was also

18:41

rumored to make anyone who drank

18:43

it immortal, though

18:46

no one knows exactly what D was

18:48

doing in his laboratory. In the

18:50

early fifteen seventies, he fell

18:53

seriously ill. Much

18:55

of alchemy revolved around the

18:57

use of mercury, which is a high

19:00

toxic substance. D

19:02

would eventually recover, but by

19:04

the time he was well enough to continue

19:07

his work, he was broke once

19:09

again. In desperation,

19:11

he wrote to the Queen's court and

19:13

was granted another patronage

19:15

of a few hundred pounds per annum, But

19:18

it wasn't enough because

19:20

D had set his sights on a new

19:22

series of experiments. For

19:24

these, he would need enough money to

19:27

dedicate months and months of his time

19:30

concentrating solely on the task

19:32

at hand. If

19:34

successful, he would have the power

19:37

to grant anybody whatever

19:39

they wanted. In

19:51

November fifteen seventy seven,

19:53

something strange appeared suddenly

19:56

in the night sky, as

19:58

bright as the moon. It was some kind

20:01

of celestial object that seemed

20:03

to shimmer from a burning fire

20:06

inside a dazzling cloud, with

20:08

a vast dusty tail stretching

20:10

out behind it. Observers

20:14

all over the world were mystified

20:16

and horrified in equal measure.

20:20

To a number of the Queen's advisers,

20:23

it was a clear portent of doom.

20:26

A few days later, Francis

20:28

Walsingham, Queen Elizabeth's

20:31

chief spy, uncovered an

20:33

Austrian plot to unseat the

20:35

queen. As the Queen

20:37

and her courtiers debated how best

20:39

to respond, John d attempted

20:42

to speak with the Queen once again

20:44

to request a recognition as her

20:47

court's official philosopher to

20:49

raise more money for his new experiments.

20:53

Dee was forced to wait his turn for

20:55

an audience, and by the time he

20:57

got it it was clear his chance

21:00

gone. However, visiting

21:02

the Queen at the same time was

21:05

a rather loud, stout, and

21:07

sturdy looking man with a

21:09

fetching mustache.

21:11

The man was Francis Drake,

21:14

a slave trader, privateer,

21:17

and a constant thorn in the side

21:19

of King Philip the Second of Spain,

21:22

whose nation was the leading colonial

21:25

power of the time. Drake

21:28

had come to update the Queen on an

21:30

epic voyage he was preparing to

21:32

embark on that she and

21:34

a number of her associates were financing.

21:38

The plan was to complete a circumnavigation

21:41

of the globe to discover what other

21:43

lands might exist in the world that

21:45

they could exploit, while taking

21:48

out as many Spanish vessels as

21:50

they could along the way. John

21:53

d saw a golden opportunity.

21:57

With all his knowledge and experience of

21:59

cartoggraphy and being close

22:01

to some of the world's greatest cartographers,

22:05

he offered his services in assisting

22:07

the voyage with

22:09

the Queen's full attention. Once again,

22:12

he outlined a scheme for England

22:15

to lay claim to the fabled New

22:17

World in a direct challenge

22:19

to the King of Spain. As

22:22

he told the Queen, it was based

22:24

on some historical and magic research

22:27

that he'd been apparently carrying out for

22:29

a while. It revealed

22:32

that now was the time for her reign to

22:34

shift into a new expansionist

22:36

phase in pursuit of what he

22:38

called a new British

22:41

Empire. The Queen

22:43

couldn't help but be impressed. A

22:46

short time later, Dee presented

22:48

her with his Britannity Imperial

22:51

Limiter, the limits of the British

22:53

Empire. In it, he

22:55

predicted that the English Navy would

22:58

become the key weapon with which

23:00

he could challenge the King of Spain's

23:02

global supremacy. D's

23:05

immediate financial future was

23:08

once again secured. It

23:11

was time to start the next phase

23:13

of his experiments. Thick

23:22

velvet curtains are drawn across

23:24

the windows of a wood paneled study

23:27

to keep out the chill of the midwinter

23:29

night. At its center

23:32

stands a great wooden desk, surrounded

23:35

on all sides by endless bookshelves

23:38

stuffed with books and papers.

23:41

Stacks of books and manuscripts

23:43

litter the desk in untidy heaps

23:46

or pushed to one side.

23:48

In their place are two

23:51

tall, white, flickering candles,

23:54

the only light in the room besides

23:56

that cast by glowing embers

23:59

smoldering in a large stone

24:01

fireplace. Two

24:03

bearded men sit across

24:05

from each other, both gazing

24:08

intently into a large crystal

24:10

orb on the floor between them that

24:13

scatters sparkles of light across

24:15

the dim chamber. The

24:18

men are John d and

24:20

his associate Barnabas Saw,

24:23

and they are sitting in D's in

24:26

a sanctum. It's

24:28

mid December of fifteen eighty one,

24:31

but in that moment, time seems

24:34

to have completely stopped. Huh,

24:38

I see him clearly, says Saul

24:41

in a hushed voice.

24:43

Welcome a Nal, he says

24:45

with a dramatic flourish. An

24:48

Ale was said to be one of the seven

24:50

Angels of creation. D

24:53

was convinced he was the angel

24:55

of Intelligence who roared over

24:57

the entire world. On

25:00

the way Saul describes the entity

25:02

he's claiming to see in the orb, D

25:06

isn't so sure it's him.

25:08

Ask him to identify himself, urges

25:11

D, gazing into the ball, where,

25:14

sadly, unlike Saul,

25:16

he sees nothing. Saul

25:19

hesitates for a moment. Barnabas

25:23

Saul, a self proclaimed Scria

25:26

crystal gazer and channeler

25:28

of spirits and angels, arrived

25:31

at Mortlake a few days before, claiming

25:33

to have rare books to sell to D.

25:36

D had enough knowledge of books

25:39

and booksellers to doubt he had anything

25:41

he needed, but was impressed by

25:43

the man's apparent sensitivity

25:46

for the occult. At

25:48

the time, D was on the lookout

25:50

for a partner to help him with his latest

25:53

experiment, the thing he'd

25:55

been building up to all this time.

25:58

An attempt to contact angels.

26:02

Though D had the material knowledge

26:04

of what was required, he knew

26:07

deep down that he wasn't possessed

26:09

with the kind of psychic sensitivity

26:12

that he believed was needed to

26:14

make contact. What

26:17

he needed was a scria, someone

26:20

with the supposed power to communicate

26:22

with other entities. So

26:25

D took a chance on Saul

26:27

and asked him to stay at his house and

26:30

assist him. Before long,

26:32

they were ensconced in his study, chanting

26:35

incantations into the air as

26:38

they worked through spell after spell

26:40

from these many occult texts.

26:44

Back in the study on that mid

26:46

December night, Saul's face

26:48

contorts strangely. Aha,

26:52

a second spirit has now appeared, he

26:54

exclaims. D stares

26:57

harder into the crystal orb, though

27:00

he still can't see anything other than

27:02

the reflected flames of the candles.

27:04

He senses the light glitter and

27:07

flash even brighter as it

27:09

dances in the darkness above the

27:11

men's heads. This

27:13

one is very beautiful, continued

27:16

Saul. He's clothed in

27:18

glittering gold robes. Beams

27:21

of light blazed from his head. He

27:24

has eyes of fire as

27:33

Barnabas Saul continues to

27:35

describe the entity in the crystal

27:37

orb, D can feel the hairs

27:40

rise up on the back of his neck. Now

27:43

this sounded more like a nail.

27:47

I can see characters writ upon the

27:49

crystal in shining gold, explained

27:51

Saul, who hurriedly scribbles

27:54

them down and passes the paper

27:56

to D. It's Hebrew,

27:58

says D, taking excitedly

28:01

ask him if any angel is assigned

28:04

to this stone, presses D, grabbing

28:06

one of the other smaller crystals nearby

28:09

and placing it next to the orb. Saul.

28:12

Julia reports that this second

28:14

crystal would in due course reveal

28:17

the archangel Michael, as named

28:20

in the Holy Scriptures. A

28:22

nail foretells that Michael

28:24

shall appear to thee after Christmas,

28:27

says Saul. He

28:29

says, thou must prepare thyself

28:32

to prayer and fasting, and

28:34

in the name of God, be secret.

28:38

D laps it all up.

28:41

I am a nail. I will take

28:43

my leave now, says Saul, spelling

28:46

out the name letter by letter

28:49

A N N

28:52

A E L.

28:56

D frowns. The

28:59

angel's name was spelt with

29:01

only one N. Either

29:04

the angel didn't know how to spell its

29:06

own name, or Saw had been

29:08

mistaken, or he'd

29:11

been making the whole thing up all

29:13

along. Early

29:15

in the new year, Barnabas Saul

29:18

was accused of committing the crime

29:20

of consulting with spirits. It's

29:23

unclear why D was not included

29:25

in the charge. Perhaps Saul

29:28

had been less secretive in his work

29:30

for other clients. At

29:32

his hearing the following month, Saul

29:34

was acquitted due to a lack of evidence,

29:37

But on returning from court, perhaps

29:40

fearful of another prosecution, Saul

29:43

admitted to D that he neither

29:45

saw or heard spiritual

29:48

creatures anymore. D

29:51

was once again on his own, but

29:54

the news was out that he was

29:56

looking for a spiritual partner to

29:58

fulfill his ambition. Then,

30:01

on the afternoon of March eighth,

30:04

there came a knock at his door. Waiting

30:07

for him. On the doorstep was a mister

30:09

Clerkson, an agent for

30:12

men purporting to be spirit mediums

30:15

looking for wealthy clients. Clerkson

30:18

had brought with him a so called

30:20

friend of his, who he introduced

30:22

as twenty six year old Edward

30:24

Talbot. Perhaps he

30:27

could be the man that D was looking for,

30:29

Clerkson suggested. D.

30:32

Agreed to meet them for dinner the following

30:34

day to discuss the idea further.

30:38

Later that evening, as it approached

30:40

midnight, D was poring

30:43

over a manuscript in his study when

30:45

he sensed a shift in the air. All

30:49

about the room was ablaze

30:51

with a strange red ambient

30:54

light. D rushed

30:57

outside and stared up in

30:59

disbelief. The

31:02

entire night sky appeared

31:04

to be burning in fiery flames,

31:07

as though a great fire had just

31:09

risen above the earth. D

31:13

should have taken it as a sign.

31:20

You've been listening to Part two of Unexplained

31:24

Season seven, episode eighteen,

31:27

A Dance with Mister D. Part

31:30

three will be released next Friday, April

31:33

fifth. This episode

31:36

was written by Diane Hope and

31:38

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31:41

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