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From the King of Sports Books comes

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the Key Sports podcast Unleashed,

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presented by the MGM.

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Here's your host, Jerry Ferrara

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and Olivia Harland Decker. Welcome

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to Unleashed. Life without Super Bowl

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and Football starts right now. Olivia

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Harland Decker, Jerry Ferrara, We are back

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from Arizona where we had a pretty

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damn good time. What don't you say, Jerry, It

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was awesome. I didn't want it to end

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because then you go back to the reality of also

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knowing that this is the last game of the season,

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and I want to crawl into a

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moment of darkness and retreat now on

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Sundays, though only Sundays, because

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I don't know what else to do with myself now that football

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has gone. You know there's someone else who might

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join you in this darkness retreat.

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Literally, as those out there are listening

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to this, Aaron Rodgers is in some dark

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hole which is really dismal.

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So Darry I heard he might film

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it, and as our resident, like Hollywood

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guy, do you think that would be must

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watch TV? First of all,

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for me, it would be. But doesn't

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that contradict everything you're

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doing. You're supposed to be in darkness with

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no phones, and like they're gonna have

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to put lights up and to film it. Otherwise

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it's gonna be like those old cartoons when cartoon

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characters would close their eyes in the dark and open

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them and you only see the eyes, Like we're not gonna

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see anything. So I don't

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think that's gonna happen. That's probably a rumor, but I would

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definitely watch it for sure. Well,

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the fact that he dangled it out there, I think

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he already probably has a deal with someone to

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film this. But I was thinking too, you and I

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both do a lot of on camera work, and you know

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that red light is blinking there, even

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if they don't have a flash or whatever, like if they have it

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in night vision, you know that red light

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in that cameras blinking. And he's like probably miked

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up. I mean, the whole thing does seem

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to contradict the purpose. So I'm not

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not really I still wouldn't want to do that myself,

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even knowing that there's civilization with me and

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a camera and all that stuff. But look, I would

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definitely watch it, but I think

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it takes away from what he's trying to do. Maybe

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just recap it can't you just recap it on the

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podcast and I'd listen to that, just

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recap us what you went through. He's

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only getting two meals a day. That's where

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he lost me as well, Like I have

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three snacks a day. Might

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I say too, I'm very excited to talk to your dad.

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We've talked about your dad this season

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because you know, we got the whole Kevin Garnett story

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with the big ticket nickname and all that, which was awesome.

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But also acting has always been my

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dream, but more of a dream I realized when

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I was like a teen, But my childhood

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dream was to do exactly what your father's

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done for his entire career. That was my childhood.

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Yes, oh

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you know it's not too late. Uh not too late,

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uh no, but definitely

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a little late to chase new dreams that

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I probably would get paid four cents for while

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I'm doing a local high school game, you

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know, kind of breaking myself in

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so but yeah, I just broadcast

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and and calling games and and the

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stuff that he's done in his career. That's what I wanted to do

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when I was a kid. So I'm very excited to have

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him on. Well, like I mentioned,

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he just did the Super Bowl. I got to see him in Phoenix.

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That was really fun. You just missed him. If you had stayed

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a couple of days later, we could have all hung

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out. But now talk about a quick turnaround.

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He's doing the NBA All Star Game this weekend on

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T n T. He is. He is a

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renaissance man. Really, he's so busy. But

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yeah, obviously a lot to talk with him about

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the Super Bowl. I can't wait, and then he heads

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to Utah, so that'll be fun. You can talk to him

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about Team Lebron, First Team Janice, and

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the new draft format of the All Star Game, which

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I think is pretty cool, MVP odds,

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and what to look for in the second half of the NBA

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season, including the new look

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Sons with Katie. We didn't really get

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to talk about this since, but what's your

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first reaction to some of the trades we saw? You

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know, it was so weird because

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and you and I we we we had the chance we talked about

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in a live show. We had the chance to play a little goal, right.

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I actually snuck away while we were in Arizona

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to play another couple

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of holes with my buddy John just Stromski

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and I took the shuttle back from the golf

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course to the hotel. Was only a few miles and

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the woman driving we had it

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was a it's a ten minute drive. We

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had a ten minute sons

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conversation, like in depth about

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you know, she was going deep about what the

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Suns needed to do. This is obviously before the trade. And

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then I end up leaving that night and when

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I landed back in Ohio and I raced home,

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my kids are already asleep and I'm just in bed

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with my phone quiet, and then boom, the trade

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broke, like as because I landed at midnight and

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the trade broke at night. So I

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was just thinking about that woman. I'm like, oh my

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gosh, she's got to be awake

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freaking out that the Suns have Katie. What a trade

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deadline? Just when I was saying, oh, maybe the NFL

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has caught up to all the offseason transactional

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stuff. No, the NBA did the hold

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my beer because that was a crazy trade

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deadline. It really was. It felt

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like any time, especially when you're in an airport

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and you walk by a TV, you know, and you're like, oh,

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WHOA Like I feel like they're kept being

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news and talk about a weird week for

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news and other sports to come out because there's so

5:10

much focus on the Super Bowl. But I think

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pretty well received. I think people are excited. Yeah,

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and look, I already was having these debates

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with friends and group chats when Kyrie got

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traded to Dallas, Like, I'm

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not trying to be a Kyrie apologist,

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Like whatever, whatever you think of everyone's tied to their

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opinion. As a basketball player on the

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court, you have to respect what the guy could

5:29

do. I just look at it, like, there's no

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way you could just absolve the

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Nets organization and all this right,

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Like, there's just all right, get you could say

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Kyrie tank the team and Katie's

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so wishy washy about where he wants to be and James

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Harden doesn't work. But fine, agree,

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there is no way the organization

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doesn't get some of the blame for

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having those three and you

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know they only played thirteen games together

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and not making it work. I'm with you, Yeah,

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there's a there's something foulk

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I think who's left through

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the smoke in the ashes? Ben Simmons

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and look and a lot of really good

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wings that are you know, the Knicks finally beat

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the nets for the first time in five years the other

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night. It feels like and then nets

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are fun. When you see every players like six eight

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and can shoot threes, it's pretty fun. Yeah,

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there might be something there. Have you ever been to an All Star

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Game? No? And I almost

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went last year because it was in Cleveland,

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But of course when it was in Cleveland last year, I

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had to go to l A. I've just never been. The

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only thing I ever went in l at

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the only thing I had the pleasure of doing. I did

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play in the Celebrity Game one

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year in l A. So I was

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there for that part, but didn't

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go to any of the other festivities.

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It's such a tough thing for me because I enjoy it

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so much on television. But

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yeah, I should have went when I was in l A. I should have

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took on. I should have took on more.

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No, I've never been to any of it. You you must

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have been to so much of it, right,

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Yeah, I mean growing up we went every year is

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forever. My dad just did the Saturday Night,

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which I kind of think is the better. It's awesome,

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of course, honest. And now since Marv

7:07

Albert has retired, my dad now does the Sunday

7:09

Night game, and I don't know which one he

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prefers. We can ask him, but I do know he got

7:13

to kick out of doing the dunk contest and

7:15

the views on that I think are way higher

7:17

than the All Star Game. How many uh,

7:20

like do you know off the top of your head when he started

7:23

with the dunk contest, like I'm

7:25

it was, was he like the Vince Carter one? Did

7:27

he call that one? So? Yeah, I know he

7:29

had done it a long time. Yeah, so we saw some

7:32

of the legendary when the dunk contest was

7:34

the dunk honestly, not a bad time to get

7:36

out if I'm your dad, because the dunk contest,

7:39

I have ideas of how to fix it, but it's

7:41

a little rough. It's a little rough. Definitely

7:44

asked him his opinion on that, and you

7:46

pitch him your idea. Maybe he can shoot

7:48

that one up the ladder. No. I remember as a kid, we'd always

7:50

go and I have pictures of myself

7:53

like awkward years, like

7:55

kind of gap tooth and bangs,

7:57

and I've horrible pictures of my

8:00

evolution at various Solid Star games. But

8:02

we always got to like see celebrities because

8:04

they're always courtside, and I texted

8:06

my family and I said, everyone, shoot me

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your best like All Star Game celebrity

8:10

story because I'm trying to remember this for the podcast

8:13

because I knew we were gonna talk about it today. And

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some of the responses, I mean, I was laughing out loud.

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One was from my sister, she said, uh,

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when I was filling up the bucket of ice

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in the hotel with Tiger Woods. One

8:26

was when I went to the bathroom with Brittany Murphy

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rest in Peace and sat next to Ashton Kutcher,

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Jack Nicholson. We always got to see.

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Um. What else when Charles

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Barkley told my sister's then fiance

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he was going to hire someone to kill him if he heard

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her. Um,

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my other sister, when in Chicago, was sitting right

8:45

behind the basket when Derrick Rose broke his leg.

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Oh gosh.

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Um, Benny the Bull, Chicago's mascot,

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once picked up my sister, through him,

8:54

over her, over his shoulder and ran

8:56

around the court. And this is a very shy sister,

8:59

so very more to I mean,

9:02

the All Star Game has always kind of been our family's

9:04

like thing. And believe me, going to school

9:07

that Monday, probably skipping Monday, going Tuesday.

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Um, we always had a lot of stories. So I love

9:12

the NBA All Star Game. It's nostalgic. Okay,

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before we tie a beaut on the Super Bowl and

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we're gonna break it down a little bit. I've got to know your

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bets because we talked so much about it on the show

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last week. So what hit? What did you actually end up

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playing? Nothing hit? For me when

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I say nothing, absolutely

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nothing hit because you had the Eagles. I told

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you I had the Eagles tied to every Oh.

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I did hit the oh. I'm sorry. I hit the over over

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So I mean, but Dad did not recoup enough

9:37

of my losses. I did the Hassan Reddick

9:39

bet. I just wish I would have known

9:41

I didn't have a single sack. I'm not saying

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I would have changed any of my bets. But

9:46

the biggest information for a better

9:48

that anyone could have gotten after Mahomes

9:51

is like all right, his ankles superhuman was

9:53

the fact that it's going to be one of the worst grass

9:55

surfaces ever played on in

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the history of the Super Bowls. That would

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have maybe influenced my that a

10:02

little bit, because the Eagles, to me are a motion

10:04

driven misdirection kind

10:07

of team. But yeah, that stood

10:09

out for me when I like Hassan red it was the worst

10:11

field he's ever played on. Now from the

10:13

losing team, that's easy to say. Of course,

10:15

no chief they said it was the worst

10:17

field. But oddly enough, I remember the report

10:19

like several Eagles were changing their cleats.

10:22

No Chiefs changed their cleats, which which

10:24

was surprising. Do you have a conspiracy

10:26

theory you want to air out? No conspiracy

10:29

theory, I just that would have been very

10:31

pertinent information. But no, I lost. I

10:33

lost everything. But the big disappointment

10:36

was I had my long

10:38

shot lotto ticket parlay right

10:40

with a bunch of and I had

10:42

the first leg of it was Ken gain

10:44

Well. First touchdown of the game I

10:47

had and he you know, the elbow down on the inch

10:50

line. I

10:52

had the gain Well, I had the Tony touchdown.

10:54

I had a Kelsey touchdown and it wouldn't have hit

10:57

anyway because I think I still the last

10:59

leg was Dalla got it to score. But

11:02

oh my gosh, what I have been on pins and kneel. It

11:04

was like some ridiculous fifty to win, like

11:06

fourteen grand Oh

11:08

gosh, And I mean for

11:10

a long shot. You almost got it. How

11:13

did you do? I did really well. We

11:15

had the Chiefs everywhere. I don't

11:17

really no, no, it gets better. I had Eagles

11:20

up at halftime, Chiefs win. That

11:22

was one. I had Chief's money line.

11:25

And the problematic part is

11:27

I placed my bet when I was in Arizona knowing

11:29

that I couldn't cash out, you know once I got to London

11:32

because I left before the game. I left

11:34

Saturday before the game Sunday, so

11:36

I can't cash out until I get back

11:38

in the States. Even though I placed it on the bed

11:40

MGM map in Arizona. I can't do

11:42

anything until I get back in the States, which isn't

11:44

over a month. I can't remember what my parlay.

11:47

Oh, you can't even look. You can't look.

11:50

I can't see it. It won't let me log in. I

11:53

know two of them hit, though, and I did three legs,

11:55

and I cannot remember the third leg. One was

11:57

Kelsey anytime touchdown and

11:59

one was Hurts over ten and a half rushing

12:02

attempt. So both hit. Yeah, And

12:04

I'm texting my brother in law's I know, I was showing

12:06

him. I was all proud and like, how do you like my proleg

12:08

and I'm texting him, do you remember what my third leg? But he

12:10

doesn't remember. So I'm

12:13

telling you when I touched down in the States, I'm firing up

12:15

the app and I'm either going to be celebrating

12:17

or not because I'm worried I

12:19

took the game under because I was talking

12:21

about that all week. Remember, I was like, oh, the game

12:24

under. You were talking under, but the over

12:26

became such the popular beat. I

12:28

don't know if you would have done that, but I don't know. I'm

12:30

pretty stupid good on you because

12:33

that's the narrative of the game, which we did discuss

12:36

even with Peter in the live show.

12:38

Eagles first half was the bat Really,

12:41

you could take Eagles for the game. It's easy to say

12:43

now, but the Eagles you called

12:45

Eagles first half Mahomes

12:47

and the Chiefs firing back in the second half,

12:49

and that was that was the story of the game. So

12:52

I think, what is so brilliant about

12:54

Patrick Mahomes Despite the injury he played

12:56

less than nine minutes in the first half, and

12:58

then in the second half. He scored

13:00

on every second half possession, just one in completion

13:03

which was a throwaway, and all

13:05

in all, he had thirty eight points scored in twenty

13:08

four minutes on the field. Thirty

13:10

eight points in twenty four minutes on the field. I mean, I

13:12

was so concerned. I went to bed at halftime because

13:14

it was two am in London. I had just gotten back here

13:16

and all that we were tired. We watched Rihanna and called

13:18

it a day and I

13:21

was like, man, this doesn't look good. Chiefs are

13:23

gonna lose. The Eagles look hot.

13:25

Patrick Mahomes are keeping him out the field.

13:28

And then I woke up, but I roll over.

13:30

My husband was up before me, and I said, what happened?

13:33

He said, Chiefs one jeeves. We

13:35

were so excited. It's a weird way

13:38

to watch a game. But I think as everyone's

13:40

so mad about the holding call, I think they need

13:42

to be a little bit more realistic. As good

13:44

as the Eagles looked, and you can certainly agree

13:46

that those are the two best teams in the NFL, and

13:48

it was a perfect matchup that Hurts

13:51

had a fumble that was returned for a touchdown.

13:54

They had a their run

13:56

game which was vaunted. Everyone all season

13:58

was all about their run game. Was I mean, they

14:00

had a huge special teams gaff and

14:03

then the holding call. That's not why they lost the game.

14:05

So I'm kind of sick of people saying that. And

14:07

Sirianni even to his credits, said

14:10

that. To post game he said, you

14:12

know, talk right, you could talk

14:14

about that, but he's like, there's a lot of reasons

14:16

why we didn't win this game.

14:18

First half went according to plan. But yes, when you

14:20

look at the mistakes Eagles

14:23

mistakes, they had two which led to

14:25

touchdowns. The Chiefs really only had one mistake. It was

14:27

a missed field goal, which we all knew was gonna happen,

14:29

especially me. We all knew there was

14:32

a joint that was going to happen. So

14:34

that was really the only Chiefs misfire.

14:36

Both defenses did not look good

14:39

at all, but the Eagles defense

14:41

bottom lot just did nothing. Zero.

14:44

So when you talk about the reasons why the Chiefs, obviously

14:46

Mahomes gets so much of the cred, but you have

14:49

to talk about the Chief's offensive line,

14:51

you have to talk about Eric b Enemy and Andy Reid

14:53

in the play calling because it was I

14:55

mean, the Eagles didn't even have a chance to sack

14:58

Mahomes. That ball is coming out so quick, and the and

15:00

the run game. They were able to run the game and the Eagles

15:03

couldn't run the ball and made two mistakes. Now,

15:05

as far as the holding penalty

15:08

and respect to Bradberry, and Bradbery is

15:10

getting a lot of respect for owning it and not getting

15:12

into like a twitter bat. But as far

15:14

as the call itself, I've gotten into arguments

15:17

with Bree about this in

15:19

the exact same way that the fans are

15:21

with the refs. Okay, for instance,

15:24

Bree could say something to me, you know you've been working

15:26

a lot. You know it could really be helpful, is

15:29

if you maybe just uh, can you cook more

15:31

dinners? That would be really helpful for

15:33

me. Okay, so

15:35

I go cook a great dinner, all

15:37

this stuff. She was outside with the kids, and

15:39

then she'll say, you know, you really shouldn't

15:42

have cooked so long. It was a beautiful day outside

15:44

and should have came out. What I'm getting at is

15:46

you can't say you gotta call. You

15:48

can't call that in the Super Bowl in that moment.

15:50

But then then the Giants are playing the Commanders

15:52

and what was a playoff game there was a non

15:55

call, and fans are saying, you can't

15:57

know what you're not gonna call it because it's the end of the game.

15:59

You can't have it both ways. I have

16:01

no problems with the call. It just was a bummer

16:04

that that's how the game ended. It just was am I

16:08

I agree, And I think what pisses

16:10

me off is when people say, oh, come on, let him play.

16:13

It's the final minutes of the Super Bowl. When

16:15

you say let him play, that only favors one

16:17

side. And I agree, it would have been

16:19

great to see the ball in Jalen Hurts hands one more

16:21

time. I agree, it felt like the

16:24

Divisional round game last year Bill's Chiefs

16:27

that you would have loved to see Josh Allen with another chance,

16:29

but it didn't end up that way. Coin toss, remember.

16:32

But I feel like when people are like, just let

16:34

him play, it's the Super Bowl, let him

16:36

play, It's like, that's not the rule

16:39

and the rule and it's not situational

16:41

refee. And you know, Olson, I

16:43

think made a great observation early

16:45

in the first half where there was a few

16:48

I think there was one or to delay a game penalties

16:50

on the Eagles where they did not opt to take the

16:52

time out, and Olson astute Lee said,

16:54

you know, clearly like the time outs mean more

16:57

to Serianny than the holding place because

16:59

they're able to move the ball fine. But there

17:02

was another delay. There was another delay

17:04

of game situation and they had to call a time out,

17:06

and that was a time out that they definitely

17:09

could have used when basically

17:11

when they were kneeling on the ball for the field goal. So

17:13

so many things cost them

17:15

the game. And bottom line is

17:17

the Chiefs from start to finish played a better

17:19

game on both sides of the ball, and they

17:21

deserve to win that game. Call or no call.

17:24

So what do you think about this, because now I've seen this come

17:26

out. Is Bill Belichick he would always

17:29

knowing what color jerseys his opponent

17:31

was wearing, He'd have his receivers were the same

17:33

color gloves. Have you heard this? So

17:35

the Chiefs were wearing white, Eagles were wearing

17:37

black gloves, which just

17:40

makes everything that much more noticeable. And

17:42

I've seen it come out now that Bill Belichick always

17:44

told his defenders where white

17:47

gloves if your opponents were in a white jersey, And

17:49

for the sake of you might even

17:51

if you get one call from it, I

17:53

guess they don't call you on one. But I

17:56

think that's pretty interesting and something that was

17:58

overlooked, and if Bill Belichick would do it, I

18:00

don't think it's I don't think it's crazy.

18:03

I would do anything Bill Belichick would do. But

18:06

yeah, I was certainly disappointed,

18:08

like, wow, this is how the game is gonna end. But yeah,

18:10

I just the Chiefs. Where was Miles

18:12

Sanders? Seriously? Where

18:14

was Miles Sanders? Gain

18:16

Well? And you didn't you don't have any bets on his over

18:19

I did. No, That's why I'm asking where

18:21

where was Miles Sanders? You know

18:23

Gainwell five? You have a couple of passes

18:26

here there Almost I would be touchdown.

18:28

But the Eagles are a running

18:30

team. Okay, last thing I think we could wrap

18:32

up. They're gonna change this fourth

18:35

and short quarterback sneak role right

18:37

where you could rugby. It's so dangerous. It's

18:40

so dangerous. It's also

18:44

a quarterback is going to break his neck or break his back.

18:46

Like it's not gonna end. Well, I

18:48

don't know. That's a that's just a dumb play. I get

18:50

it. Stop it. If you can't stop it, it's

18:52

a dumb play. One more thing that I think is

18:54

worth mentioning is Jacksonville played

18:57

the Eagles. Recently, and there

18:59

were a couple of plays that the chief seemed to

19:01

have stolen from the Jaguars. Head coach with

19:03

Jaguars Doug Peterson, close

19:05

close friend to Andy Reid fired by

19:07

the Eagles. You got to think that at some

19:09

point in the last two weeks someone picked up the

19:11

phone and said, yo, Andy, look at

19:13

where the Eagles defense is going

19:15

to fake you out here? And they took advantage on the

19:17

same exact play. No proof, I have

19:19

no proof. I'm just saying, no,

19:22

you do have proof, because didn't didn't The Eagles

19:24

have Fangio working on helping them

19:26

with a defensive plane against the Chiefs when

19:29

he's not not affiliated with the team. That's

19:31

enough proof for me to say. Everyone's

19:34

talking super Bowl, yes, like and a coach

19:36

like Andy Reid who probably has a lot of friends,

19:38

a lot of friends. No one dislikes Andy.

19:40

Well, I think in general, great super Bowl.

19:43

We've got to talk about Rihanna a little bit because

19:45

that is what everyone was

19:47

talking about. And then I didn't know this until

19:50

this week, but did you know that the halftime performer

19:52

isn't paid a single penny? The NFL

19:54

doesn't pay them. In fact, sometimes they pay

19:57

for their own theatric, staging,

19:59

lighting, cup dancers, all of it. They pay for it themselves

20:02

because it ends up like multiplying

20:05

in dividends, usually in merch or

20:08

ticket sales or music sales or

20:10

whatever. In fact, with Rihanna, you know

20:12

her little makeup touch up that

20:14

drove fenty beauty sales up over

20:16

eight and as if she

20:18

didn't have a large enough following, she gained one

20:21

point five million Instagram followers in

20:23

twenty four hours, three million overall.

20:26

I don't know how many she has, but she gained three million

20:28

Instagram followers since her

20:31

Super Bowl performance. In her music

20:33

sales skyrocketed, and she

20:35

also did a multimillion dollar deal with

20:37

Apple, the sponsor of the halftime show,

20:39

to document the whole process. So the

20:41

money Rihanna made from this what

20:44

fifteen minutes is out of this world.

20:46

I enjoyed the halftime show, yeah,

20:49

Brie and I watched it. Love Rihanna.

20:51

Awesome. I just had one thought. I

20:53

know everybody was freaky as she pregnant.

20:56

She wasn't, like, first of all, she'll tell

20:58

us when she wants to tell us, like relax, But I

21:00

did start thinking if she was

21:02

pregnant, and you

21:04

know confirmed, it was confirmed later. I

21:07

didn't love her floating on that stage.

21:09

Yes, I was like, get her down. I was nervous.

21:11

I was nervous. I was that thing was wobbly.

21:14

I was nervous. Now you did see there was like

21:16

almost a pole that she was attached

21:18

to, and then one of the backup dancers did come and so

21:20

she was attached to something fixed

21:22

on it. But still I'm still very nervous.

21:24

I didn't love it when she was, you know, sixty

21:27

ft suspended in the air. I just

21:29

I was. I found myself nervous.

21:31

But it was fun. It was fun show. It was fun

21:33

show. Agreed. It was the most

21:35

watched Super Bowl in six years, with million

21:38

viewers. It was the third most watch TV

21:40

show ever, obviously behind Entourage,

21:43

which we will talk about later the show. Because

21:46

I have been watching, I have been watching.

21:48

Okay, Well, the Chiefs are already the favorite to

21:50

win it all again next year at plus six hundred,

21:52

Bengals right behind them at plus eight

21:54

fifty. Honestly, Bengals Chiefs,

21:56

I think is going to be our big

21:58

matchup and big rivalry for

22:00

the next handful of years, and I'm

22:03

really looking forward to and then the bills. Look, it's

22:05

a f C. The top three teams bills are plus

22:07

nine hundred. But speaking of the Chiefs, I think

22:09

it's only right that we give the final word

22:11

to Travis Kelsey. He said no one

22:13

believed in the Chiefs, and for sure no one

22:16

on the Fox pregame show did. But I believed

22:18

in the Chiefs, and I also believe you're getting

22:20

our audible of the week.

22:26

Looks man one are y'all

22:28

and said the Jeans are gonna take it home this

22:30

year. Not a single one feel

22:33

that feeling. And on top of that, next time

22:35

the Chiefs say something, what's some respect on it? All?

22:42

Right? Obviously the Kelsey story was so amazing,

22:44

so it's nice to put a bow on that one

22:46

and give the final word to Travis. But now

22:48

it's time for us to have the final word,

22:51

and that means it's time to unleak. It's

22:54

time to unleaf. So,

23:04

as someone who spent a lot of time on football

23:07

sidelines, something I always look at pregames, especially

23:09

in a wet game, rainy game, snowy game,

23:12

are the receivers cleats. Usually

23:14

that's why I pay the most attention to and receivers,

23:17

gloves, quarterbacks, cleets, everything

23:19

because I always want to see if they're going to make a shift

23:21

after they warm up. And

23:24

as we mentioned earlier, a lot of the Eagles players

23:26

did. Jalen Hurts switched his whole

23:28

shoe at halftime. And if you don't know,

23:30

the cleats on the shoe can be different

23:32

lengths, so you can put in different length of

23:35

cleat. But Jalen switched his whole shoe

23:37

at halftime. And a lot of players

23:39

saying it was a horrible field. You already

23:41

mentioned that as on Reddick said it was the worst field

23:43

he's ever played on. But look, the NFL

23:46

paid eight hundred thousand dollars for

23:48

this field and it was like a Bermuda

23:50

hybrid grass. It was supposed to be the creme

23:53

de la creme. So apparently the NFL

23:55

spent two years preparing this grass.

23:57

It was like a Bermuda hybrid. It was growing

24:00

and locally in Phoenix to be perfect

24:02

for Phoenix conditions at a local sod

24:05

farm. It was installed two weeks before

24:07

the game in Jerry. Every day for those

24:09

two weeks they rolled it out to get

24:11

the proper amount of sunlight and then rolled it back.

24:13

That's a process that takes an hour each

24:16

way. And the man in charge of this field

24:18

is a ninety four year old nicknamed

24:20

the Sad Father, George Toma. Have

24:22

you heard of this guy? I have now I

24:24

have, yes.

24:28

Well, he's prepared the field for every single

24:30

Super Bowl and several World Series,

24:32

thirty seven Pro Bowls. He actually worked

24:34

for the Chiefs for a long time. He worked

24:37

for the Royals. So Kansas City guy. I believe

24:39

he's from Kansas City. And the

24:41

fact that all this money, all

24:43

this time, all this effort, you have, like

24:45

the king of this subject

24:48

put his handprints all over it. I cannot

24:51

figure out why the field was so bad and

24:53

the slickness of it and the changing of

24:55

the cleats and everything we mentioned, and kickers

24:57

kicking and sliding. A J. Brown had

24:59

a big slip, like it was really

25:02

really bad. And the fact that that is now a

25:04

conversation after the

25:06

NFL put like everything

25:08

they could into the perfect field.

25:11

This should have been like the Bentley

25:13

of fields, and it was so bad. And

25:15

apparently the NFL is going to donate

25:17

it to a local high school. I

25:19

don't even know if they want it. I

25:22

don't know if you don't want it to pass. We'll

25:24

pass, Uh so

25:27

many things, Olivia Ada on Lee. That's an awesome

25:29

unleashed. I keep coming back to the number

25:31

eight grand like that. To me,

25:33

that sounds like an awful lot of money.

25:35

But for the NFL, the

25:38

field of the Super Bowl, shouldn't it number

25:40

be like eight million? Am

25:42

I missing? Like I know, how

25:45

do you get how do you spend more money on grass?

25:47

Just maybe you need more people to roll

25:49

maybe need to roll it out twice a day. And I

25:52

don't know. I don't know. And also the

25:54

other thing that stuck out and you're amazing unleast

25:56

is all respect to the pod Father, you

25:58

don't do it for that long. We being the goat,

26:00

You're the goat. Everyone has a hiccup. Thirty

26:03

seven Pro Bowls. We

26:05

really were investing that much money in the field

26:07

of thirty seven Pro Bowls Like that to me is

26:09

a red flag. And I think that high

26:11

schools like we're good. Yeah, we

26:13

we have this cheap astro turf that the kids seem to like,

26:16

we're gonna stick with that. We're good,

26:19

So mine is gonna stick more with the

26:21

music of the Super Bowl. I

26:23

am not a country guy. I'm

26:25

just not you never listened to it. If

26:28

you asked me to name as many country music

26:30

artists as I possibly could, I think I could

26:32

get to three off.

26:35

Yes and no, sorry, no disrespect. I grew

26:38

up in New York. It was hip hop. It was

26:40

like certain rock and roll, but mainly

26:42

hip hop and whatever. It's some classics.

26:46

I didn't know who Chris Stapleton was. No,

26:49

I'm sorry. I'm sorry

26:51

to say. And this is by no means a knock

26:54

on Chris Tables and this is a knock on me. I

26:56

did not know who the man was. I do not

26:58

keep tabs. Also, the kids

27:01

have me so far behind on any

27:03

current artists in general. But

27:05

needless to say, I now have

27:07

Chris Stapleton in my Spotify and

27:10

he's on rotation, he's in a he's

27:12

in a playlist now. And that goes

27:14

back to your Rihanna point. He I

27:16

don't think he got paid for that either. He probably

27:18

got millions of dopes like me who maybe

27:20

didn't weren't familiar with his music and now are

27:22

and he's brilliant. He's awesome. So, Chris

27:25

Stapleton, you got a new fan right here.

27:27

Wow, one of many I'm sure now that,

27:30

in fact, was our highlight. Sam and are

27:32

huge Chris Stapleton fans. You know his

27:34

song Tennessee Whiskey never Olivia.

27:38

I never heard it in my life.

27:40

If I heard it on country fans like that song

27:42

come on exactly great.

27:44

But I'm not trying to listen country fans

27:47

hardcore. I'm not trying to. I'm not saying your

27:49

music is bad. I it's just it's just not for me.

27:51

All good. I respect it. I'm not gonna

27:53

walk into a bar if they're playing country musical be

27:55

like, change this now, I'll roll

27:58

with it. I just I'm not playing on my

28:00

own time, that's all. But Chris stapleson wow,

28:02

his anthem, Oh, We've listened to it like

28:04

five times. I loved his aunt's great anthem,

28:15

Let's go ahead and bring in our guest. He just

28:17

called the super Bowl on Sunday for

28:19

Westwood one Radio. He's a two time National

28:21

Sportscaster of the Year and a thirty

28:24

four time Father of

28:26

the Year. Kevin Harland, I only say that because

28:28

your oldest kid is thirty four, not that

28:31

she wants reminding, but you're

28:33

an old pro at being a dad. So

28:35

look besides seeing me and Wolfie. What

28:37

was your highlight of Super Bowl weekend? Well,

28:39

that was number one. Number two. You

28:42

guys had the first two slots for sure. We

28:45

had all of our kids down there, so that was fun.

28:48

Live and Jerry, it's so nice to be on with

28:50

you, and I've enjoyed so many of these

28:52

that I've watched over the weeks that you

28:54

two have got great chemistry and it's it's

28:57

really a privilege to be on with you today. It's

28:59

always an honor to the Super Bowl

29:01

just because it's the It's

29:04

what everything in our NFL season

29:06

leads up to. And to get a chance

29:08

to do the final game and kind of put a bow

29:10

on the season was great. The game

29:13

was spectacular for about fifty eight

29:15

minutes. The last two dragged

29:17

along with the penalty and kind

29:20

of a field goal, and I went

29:22

back and I was watching with my wife the kick.

29:25

Usually when you take a lead in the Super Bowl with about

29:27

eight seconds left in the game, there

29:30

is total craziness

29:32

on that sideline and on the

29:34

field with congratulations all around,

29:36

and but that was very subdued. I

29:38

was kind of surprised, actually, I think

29:41

they felt the Chiefs that even with

29:43

a three point lead and eight seconds left

29:46

that you could never exhale, and

29:49

they didn't, you know, they held him at the end

29:51

and then they exploded and then

29:54

we saw the celebration. So I think

29:56

we had the two best teams in football

29:58

this past season eat the two number

30:00

one seeds, fourteen win teams,

30:03

and so we had the game we wanted, We had the

30:05

matchup that we certainly wanted, and

30:07

I think we had the season we wanted to. There were some

30:09

terrific moments in this past season, so all in

30:11

all, I think a very highly

30:14

entertaining past season in the NFL.

30:16

So you said that it wasn't like the biggest

30:18

reaction when he kicked out field goal, but

30:21

you call in the game, I mean, you know it wasn't a hard field

30:23

goal, But did it cross your mind, because it crossed

30:25

my mind as a fan, like, No, he just

30:27

missed one, and this is there no longer

30:29

give me. I don't think there's ever a give me with a kick

30:32

anymore with what we've been witnessing this year.

30:34

No, not at all. And a very good point. Yeah, he had

30:37

missed I think a forty five yard earlier

30:39

in the game, and he had had

30:41

a career low season in terms

30:43

of field goal made percentage,

30:46

and he did not have a

30:48

great season. What was interesting about that,

30:50

Jerry, is that he began this season.

30:52

The team began the season against Arizona

30:55

beat him handily, but he slipped

30:57

on the grass in that game

31:00

and was out then for the next four weeks. And

31:02

I think he'd be the first to tell you that he never really

31:04

kind of regained his whatever

31:07

it was, and he left training camp with and entered

31:09

the season with and certainly carried over

31:11

from previous seasons. He did not have a

31:13

very good year and missed many extra

31:15

points. Now this is even shorter than

31:17

an extra point the game winner, the twenty seven yard

31:20

or I don't think you take anything

31:22

for granted in the Super Bowl. On top

31:24

of that, two more things. He is usually

31:26

a kickoff guy that goes eleven

31:29

yards back angles to the ball and

31:31

then kicks it. Because of that

31:33

game Week one, he

31:35

had shortened his run up in every

31:38

game to just five yards because

31:40

he was afraid of slipping again. And

31:43

in that game this past Sunday,

31:45

there were many complaints by the players

31:48

about poor field conditions, So

31:50

you never know, right in a field goal, extra

31:53

point you never know what's going to happen,

31:55

and sure enough it had to be the

31:57

good plant, the good hold, the good app

32:00

and certainly the kick through which it was. And

32:02

so they got the three point win, and that

32:04

was the key, that was the difference in the game. But

32:07

at halftime it was a ten point game and Philly

32:09

was on top. And I worked with Kurt Warner,

32:11

the Hall of Fame quarterback, and he said he

32:14

and I had talked all week long leading to the

32:16

game. We had the best first half team

32:18

in the league in Philadelphia, and it wasn't

32:20

even close in the point differential. How

32:22

good they were over the second place

32:24

Chiefs by like fifty or sixty points all

32:27

cumulatively all season long. And then we had

32:29

the best come from behind team in football, the Chiefs

32:31

and their quarterback Patrick Mahomes. So

32:33

we got exactly kind of has we saw it

32:35

beforehand, and a thrilling

32:37

end on the last three point game and

32:40

the crowning of a second Super Bowl for the Chiefs in

32:42

the last four years. You had Mike

32:44

Golic and Laura Oakman on the sideline for your

32:46

Westwood One broadcast. What were they saying

32:48

about the field? Because as we've talked about

32:50

earlier in the show. It took two years to grow. It

32:53

was an eight hundred thousand dollar field that was

32:55

handled with the utmost care by the

32:57

sod father himself. Yes, yeah,

32:59

you had the note, and I used that

33:01

during the broadcast. Somewhere along

33:03

the line. I used the fact that George

33:06

Toma, who is like ninety three

33:08

living ninety four years and

33:12

is from ironically enough, Kansas

33:15

City. That's where he began in

33:17

his career as a young groundskeeper

33:19

for the old Kansas City Athletics

33:22

and before they were the Kansas City A's who

33:24

became the Oakland Ays were soon to become. I guess

33:27

the Las Vegas Athletics, the

33:29

Las Vegas A's aces

33:31

maybe with the with the being in Vegas. He

33:34

had handled every single

33:37

Super Bowl field preparation,

33:39

all fifty seven of them, which to me

33:41

is remarkable. They stuck with the

33:44

same guy. So you're right, Olivia,

33:46

he had under his auspices,

33:49

under his watch. He was the

33:51

guy that that watched the growing of this

33:53

field, the maintaining of this field, and

33:55

everything else. Now people said it

33:57

was inside and the

34:00

gissing of Rihanna's halftime,

34:02

different things that were going on during

34:04

the week, but a lot of it that the tray

34:06

was still outside a good portion of the week. So

34:09

anyway, my point is is that even

34:11

with a guy that has done at fifty seven times

34:14

and I think they did try a new blend of grass

34:17

and what the combination was I think was in

34:19

the story that that Livy said, it really

34:21

met with with the thumbs down. So Oklahoma

34:24

State has been at the forefront

34:26

of developing a grass that is

34:29

going to be universally used in

34:31

the NFL Eventually. I

34:33

think the players want to get rid of artificial

34:36

surfaces. Players don't want any

34:38

more plastic grass, even

34:40

though it may be more cushion e

34:42

and have more resilience

34:45

to it. They would like to have players real

34:47

grass, and they've got a brand that

34:49

they're kind of zeroing in on, but that was not used

34:52

for the Super Bowl. So it's an ongoing

34:54

story and it will be looked at. But for whatever

34:57

reason, the grass was very slick in our

34:59

sideline report. As Olivia mentioned, they

35:01

brought this up during during

35:04

the game and during pregames and guys are slipping,

35:06

changing their cleats, getting longer cleats.

35:08

Livia has done countless games on the sidelines

35:11

so she is very adept at finding

35:13

who the equipment people are, where

35:15

they keep this this group of

35:18

extra shoepairs or extra

35:20

cleats that they can literally screw in

35:22

and screw out. It's a pretty significant

35:24

process, but a part of the armor that

35:26

these guys were a tool they

35:28

need during the game and they all were switching their cleats.

35:31

Jerry, are you gonna start calling me living now, because

35:34

for those who don't know that is me, I am living

35:36

that I feel like is reserved for your father. I

35:39

would never I would never try

35:41

to know. I'll stick you

35:44

can please use you can use it, okay, if I have

35:46

your father's blessing, use

35:48

it and uh in good

35:50

health. We talked about this a few weeks ago when

35:53

Olivia did the sideline with the Jaguars

35:55

game, and I kind of got her perspective of that.

35:57

And you know, I'm a father now of two

35:59

little so I just I just found

36:01

myself since that moment, wondering like that

36:03

just has to be the coolest feeling in

36:06

the world, Like you're doing what you love and then you've

36:08

got your daughter in the building doing what you like. Has this

36:10

got to have been the most fulfilling thing

36:12

as a parent, and we've done it before.

36:14

We've done several games before, stretching

36:17

back for or five years, so the experience

36:20

wasn't new, but the feeling always

36:22

feels new when you throw

36:24

it down to her. It is a

36:27

it hasn't happened before in an NFL game

36:30

and a national broadcast, so there

36:32

is that singularity to it. But

36:34

you know, you almost go from

36:37

boy, I hope my daughter or son does the best

36:39

they can. Two, we've

36:41

got a seasoned pro on

36:44

the sideline who has covered multiple big

36:46

games, done a ton of national TV,

36:49

does a show like this which is seen all

36:51

over the world, and is the

36:53

consummate professional. So that

36:55

part, while it may have been

36:58

in the back of my mind back in two in

37:00

sixteen, I think when we did the Monday night game at

37:02

lambeau Field, the moment she opens

37:04

her mouth and begins to talk and and gives

37:07

us great information. She's as good

37:09

as anybody out there in my opinion, and

37:11

I have a pretty significant

37:14

opinion on the business, and I've been in it so

37:16

long and kind of knows what it takes

37:18

to be what you need to be, and

37:21

she has always been that. She has

37:23

always answered the bell and

37:25

continues to just amaze

37:27

me with her preparation, her work, ethic, her

37:29

ploise, just everything she does.

37:32

Now she's a mom and

37:34

wife and living in another

37:36

country, so you know, these

37:38

are things that just amazed me. Probably

37:41

more than when she opens her mouth and

37:43

and reports from the field, is the fact

37:46

that she can tie all these things

37:48

together so seamlessly, which I

37:50

think for the normal person seems like an

37:53

avalanche of worry and concern,

37:55

and she just doesn't blink. And it's that's

37:58

so incredibly impressive to are her

38:00

mom and me. We love all we we've got

38:02

four kids. We're proud of all of them.

38:05

But clearly, when someone follows

38:07

into your profession and does what she

38:09

does, it resonates for sure.

38:12

Jerry, I know that wasn't in our show notes. You don't

38:14

have to go asking that. No, I want to know,

38:16

I told I really found myself looking

38:19

at my two

38:21

year old, I'm like, well, I don't

38:23

think I want you to be actors, but maybe

38:25

we can figure you know something

38:28

one day, maybe we'll write a movie together

38:30

or something. Because I just thought it was really

38:33

cool. We could get back to the regularly

38:35

schedule questions though, Sorry,

38:37

I just had to go there. I think I know the

38:39

answer to this question, but I might be

38:41

wrong because I loved your call when the Chiefs

38:44

won and we can insert it right here. Trailing

38:47

at ten at

38:50

the halftime stop twenty four four

38:52

team. They go on to win thirty

38:56

five one.

38:58

Again spectacular

39:01

in every way in the red and gold

39:03

can be flying in the air. The

39:07

Chiefs are Super Bowl champions.

39:11

Did you have something ready or was

39:13

it disorganic? No? It was

39:15

organic, And uh, I mean when you

39:17

go back and listen, I wish I would have said thousand

39:20

different things. Um, you don't

39:22

want to be too long because you know, you

39:24

know, you want to kind of get to the point, and we want to get down to the

39:26

sideline because they've got the players ready

39:28

to interview, so you can't be that long, you

39:31

know. And the game kind of ended oddly

39:34

because the penalty was really now the focus.

39:37

The field goal had won it, but there was this

39:39

massive comeback clearly, and

39:41

so that deserved to mention. Jalen

39:44

Hurts outplayed Patrick Mahomes. Jalen

39:46

Hurts had a much better day than Mahomes.

39:49

Ma Homes won the game and came back and did

39:51

what he had to do in the second half, so

39:53

you know that kind of I thought

39:55

about that, but I thought, like I said,

39:57

I could go back and rewrite it, and but no,

39:59

I I didn't. And our executive

40:02

producer, who has done thirty three of these,

40:05

uh you know, said, you know, Kurt lay out

40:07

at the end, so that we can get this final

40:09

call in so that they could use it twenty

40:11

years from now and know exactly what happened come

40:14

from behind when down by ten at a half time

40:16

to win Super Bowl fifty seven,

40:18

and then the other stories kind of, you know, trickle

40:20

out from that statement. I guess I could

40:22

have mentioned Mahomes, but really what he

40:25

did in the game wasn't as

40:27

impressive as Hurts. You could have picked a

40:29

couple other people that may have been in that conversation

40:31

for player of the game. Uh, not that

40:33

he has to be mentioned in the final call,

40:36

but you don't know. And I make notes

40:38

on the fight up here to Wisconsin

40:40

after the game because everything is fresh

40:42

in my mind about the call and how

40:45

I prepared or what I need to do to tweak.

40:47

And I do this after every game, but did

40:49

this after that game and thought maybe

40:52

it would be good to have two or three thoughts

40:55

and then and then whatever thought

40:58

without actually follow in the script

41:01

makes sense, come out and say it. But

41:03

I really wasn't thinking about Mahomes's performance

41:06

in the comeback. I thought of it as a team come

41:08

back. As the Chiefs came back as

41:10

a team, they scored defensively, they got a special

41:12

teams point that that that won the game.

41:15

And so you kind of go down that road.

41:18

And there have been sometimes where I felt, oh, it's

41:20

clear cut, Carmelo Anthony and Syracuse,

41:22

you know, win the Final four, win the national

41:25

championship. There might be something dominant.

41:27

But in that particular moment, I guess

41:29

I just thought, let's just get the big

41:31

wide, let's widen the lens. And they

41:34

came back from a half point at ten point

41:36

episode at half time, and they were they were

41:38

able to win. You know, I think you would be the

41:40

perfect person they asked us too, because you

41:43

know, knowing the Chiefs like you do, but also being

41:46

in the stadiums and feeling

41:48

the crowds and everything surrounding

41:50

that. You know, I loved rivalries.

41:52

I think rivalries what keeps these sports going.

41:54

Okay, I really do, and I've been a part, like I'm

41:56

a Yankee fans. I've seen the Yankee Red Sox stuff.

41:59

Nix and Nick's nineties had some

42:01

good rivalries now just rivals with themselves

42:04

pretty and maybe they're or going to their front office

42:06

at times. But

42:09

to me, it feels like the best

42:11

rivalry in football is Kansas

42:13

City. And you could almost insert several

42:16

teams, right, So if we're trying

42:18

to find that team to go with the Chiefs, and

42:20

maybe it could be an NFC, like you said, the Eagles, But who

42:22

is the biggest rival now for the Chiefs,

42:25

that's a great question. I would say,

42:27

if it's not Buffalo, it's Incinnati. And if it's

42:29

not the Bengals, it's the Bills. And I

42:31

think they are all connected

42:34

with these three young quarterbacks who are really

42:36

dynamic and have got long future,

42:39

successful futures and a lot of

42:41

trophies ahead of all three of them, Mahomes

42:44

has stepped out and kind of taking the leading man.

42:46

He's had the best overall team. People

42:48

were predicting the Buffalo was going to be that team,

42:51

and then they had some injuries and for whatever reason,

42:53

they couldn't really capture you

42:56

know, whatever it was they had, you know,

42:58

and it came down to they lost at home and the playoffs,

43:01

and after beaten you know, Kansas

43:03

City last year, and

43:05

and and and having a successful

43:07

game this year against him in the regular season,

43:10

I think people just kind of thought the Bills are the team

43:12

to watch, and that will be the team

43:14

too to really count

43:16

on people like new entrance

43:19

to a story. So I think people were hoping, yeah,

43:21

let's get the Bills. We had the Bengals

43:23

last year. Let's let's let's get some of these other teams

43:25

in there, and let's see if they can, you know, capture

43:28

our imagination. But Mahomes

43:30

and the Chiefs are showing that they are very special outfit.

43:32

You know they are. He is an incredible

43:35

quarterback, is tough as they come.

43:38

And I think Burrow is the same way. And

43:40

I definitely think that Herbert justin

43:42

Herbert out with the Los Angeles Chargers, Josh

43:45

Allen with the Bills, like these are the four quarterbacks

43:48

you want to watch, and they're all gonna

43:50

be right there at the end. I think of every

43:53

season for the next seven, eight, nine,

43:55

ten years, and that's gonna build these

43:57

rivalries as you talk about. So you could put the chief

44:00

in there against a lot of teams in the NFC.

44:02

I'd say Dak Prescott, but they've not really

44:04

gotten near the finish line, and

44:06

so that makes them you could say

44:08

Jones with the Giants, I think you

44:10

can insert Jalen Hurts. But listen, the

44:13

Eagles just lost their two coordinators

44:16

tow head coaching jobs in the league. They have eight

44:18

team free agents this year. It's gonna

44:20

be hard for them to be what they were

44:22

this past season. And but Hurts

44:24

clearly proved he now is

44:27

in that conversation of great

44:29

young quarterbacks will more emerge

44:31

in the NFC. They may, and but

44:33

Hurts right now probably is the head of the back, maybe

44:35

even ahead of Dak Prescott of Dallas, who

44:37

everyone I think is kind of penciled in. Rodgers

44:40

is thirty nine, and go right on down the list. But

44:42

but Hurt showed a lot. He was second in the m

44:44

v P and he should have been. He was terrific. He

44:47

was speaking of NFC quarterbacks. I

44:49

know you still have friends with the Packers and you're

44:51

close to the situation and probably have your own

44:53

opinion. What do you think would make

44:55

sense for both sides, for Aaron and

44:57

the Packers moving forward? Well,

45:00

Packers are a strong team, and they've got a lot

45:02

of great parts. They were just young at a position

45:04

where Rogers is demanding a lot. I

45:07

think his performance is still there. They've still

45:09

got all pros on their offensive line,

45:11

They've got emerging players on offense, They've got

45:14

a great to attack it at running

45:16

back, they've got playmakers on defense,

45:18

a young secondary that has definitely

45:21

arrived. If it were me, and

45:23

of course it isn't, but I would like to think,

45:25

let's do something unique. Let's finish with the team

45:27

I started with I've got and let me commit

45:30

to two years. Let me not just go into

45:32

a dark room and drink some weird tea

45:34

and let me let's not let's not do that stuff. Let's

45:36

commit and say, you know what, I

45:38

still feel like I'm at the top of my game, which

45:40

he does. He says that he feels

45:43

that I think he is. Let's

45:45

give this two hard years and let's really

45:47

just work on this. I think the Packers have then

45:50

got to figure out do we

45:52

bring him back for two years, stunt the growth

45:54

of this other kid we've got backing him up, who

45:56

we think is going

45:58

to be our placement, or

46:01

do we stick with the guy who's going to be a first ballot Hall

46:03

of Famer, one of the top ten quarterbacks in the history of the

46:05

NFL, who has publicly come out and said,

46:07

you've got my two year guarantee right

46:09

now, I'm coming back, and we can

46:11

really plan it and plot it just like that. You may

46:14

have to go all in on a on a free

46:16

agent and overspend, you know, to

46:18

appease me, but that that will

46:20

be a part of our two year window. I

46:22

guess that it's the romantic in me that thinks, boy,

46:24

wouldn't it be great if he began with the Packers and ended

46:27

with the Packers and maybe got to a second

46:29

Super Bowl, which is to me mind boggling

46:31

that as great as his career has been, he's

46:33

only been to one. Now, if they trade him

46:36

to whoever, let's say the Jets or

46:38

whoever has been rumored, and there have been a lot of teams

46:40

rumored. Now he goes let's say, to the Jets,

46:43

he has to learn a new system or they've got to get used

46:45

to him. He's in a new market. I mean, like I just

46:47

I just see it being cumbersome

46:50

and not you know, what it needs to be

46:52

for him. So I have no

46:54

idea. You know, he's just come out of this period where

46:56

he's wanted this this this time to himself,

46:59

which we all respect, and

47:01

he makes, you know, knowing all these things, he shares

47:04

a lot of information with the rest of the world,

47:07

including this. So we'll have to see what

47:09

happens. But I would love to see him stay,

47:11

and I guess that would be not only my hope

47:13

but my my best. Guess right now, now,

47:15

can I selfishly and try to smoothly

47:18

transition us to basketball, because

47:20

as I love the NFL,

47:23

this has been an unbelievable season, and I guess

47:25

the NFL is my number one sports shore because

47:27

it's just you only get you know, sevent games. Well

47:29

it's only because I

47:32

am an NBA guy, but I will even admit that, like,

47:34

you know, by this point in the season, although I'm very excited

47:36

about my knicks, I'm laboring a little bit with some

47:38

of the I'm not watching as many

47:40

games, but the All Star break

47:43

and the All Star weekend is always like, Okay,

47:45

this is the moment we can all regroup our fandom

47:48

and then we're gonna come back. I mean, I've been

47:50

on the wrong side of these second half of the season

47:52

things with the Knicks, But I feel good this year. But

47:55

what kemel and ask you is you've had, you

47:57

know, the opportunity to do Saturday Night and

48:00

the Sunday game, which I think is just the cool

48:02

like the coolest thing ever. Like,

48:04

I guess, take me through it if you had to

48:06

shoot, not if you had to choose. But what's it like

48:09

doing Sunday Night, Sunday Game

48:11

or Saturday Night Because I'm a Saturday Night

48:13

guy. I'm not gonna lie, I'm a Saturday guy.

48:16

Well, I did the game last year and

48:18

enjoyed it. But when you're watching

48:21

the game, the hype

48:23

for the game is definitely

48:25

greater than the game, and you get

48:27

a feel of that because they've had to rig

48:30

it so that there are little games within

48:32

the games to get to a certain

48:34

point. The game has had a hard time

48:37

standing on its own. The players don't play defense,

48:40

and it really is kind of like a

48:42

an exaggerated practice where

48:44

you've got a lot of spectacular shooting,

48:47

you've got some dunks. But the thing that makes the dunks

48:49

and the shooting so great is when there's

48:51

a little competition there to challenge

48:54

the shot or challenge the dunk

48:57

and that challenge just is not there.

48:59

I mean, I said courtside last year and watched in

49:01

Cleveland when they celebrated the first

49:03

seventy five years of the league with the

49:05

greatest name this league has ever put out, and

49:08

then you go to the game and the

49:10

game is kind of like, you

49:12

know, because it really is. It's like it's

49:15

like an exaggerated practice, a

49:17

glorified practice. The

49:19

Saturday thing is interesting

49:21

because it is all individual

49:24

and you're out there for the whole world

49:27

to see your three point shooting,

49:29

your dunk abilities, your your ability

49:31

to maneuver around a a obstacle

49:33

course, and so it has kind

49:35

of a uniqueness because the individual

49:38

skills that perhaps that player

49:40

possesses are right there

49:42

on center stage, and I guess

49:44

the player feels like, I don't want to embarrass myself,

49:47

which I think has been a problem with the slam dunk.

49:50

I think the players, the great ones, don't

49:52

want to get in a slam dunk deal and

49:55

screw up because they want what is

49:57

in people's minds that they're this incredible

50:00

I flying, you know, trapeze

50:02

artist, you know, throwing down the ball.

50:04

Kobe was in it. We've had Michael

50:07

Jordan's in it. Dr j has

50:09

been in it, but Lebron has not, and

50:12

some of the other Dominique Wilkens was

50:14

in it the Human Highlight film, but a

50:16

lot of these young kids refused to be in

50:18

it. I'd love to see John Morand in it, who

50:20

I think would be unbelievable. He's

50:23

not in it. So I'm kind of torn

50:25

by the weekend. It's great to get the

50:27

NBA family together, and because I've

50:29

watched it for so long with a great sea courtside,

50:32

I know what these guys can do, and

50:34

I know they're very proud of what they can do.

50:37

But for whatever reason, on that weekend,

50:40

I think there's probably the concern I don't want to

50:42

get hurt, and I totally get it. So

50:45

the game kind of leaves you thinking, I

50:47

mean, they scored one hundred and sixty points, but

50:49

there they had to juice

50:51

the game in the fourth quarter to

50:53

make it competitive so that we, you

50:56

know, think for the first three quarters

50:58

it really is just kind of a it's it's

51:00

it's a glorified practice. And

51:02

so I'm back to doing Saturdays

51:05

and we'll enjoy it. I enjoy what

51:07

these guys can do. Every once

51:09

in a while, and we saw it last year with Steph Curry in

51:12

the In the game, you'll

51:14

get like what he get sixteen threes or

51:16

some ridiculous number like that, and you're

51:18

thinking, oh my god, this kid is

51:20

like just unbelievable. He's not gonna play

51:22

this year, and and some other big names aren't.

51:24

Zion is not going to play this year. I'd love to see

51:26

Zion Williamson and his slam dunk contest. I think

51:29

it would be remarkable, but we don't

51:31

get it. And that's it kind of leaves fans thinking.

51:34

But they're the build up for it is like this

51:36

month, the voting and the mund and the advertisement,

51:39

you would think, like, holy smokes, like

51:41

this is gonna be like just mind blowing,

51:44

and it usually ends up just you make it

51:46

one player. But it's not the kind of competition.

51:49

You should hear the old players talk about the guys

51:51

that used to play in this game. Wow,

51:56

yeah, yeah, they're that and everything else

51:58

worse than they they'll use the

52:00

word kind of disgrace. They'll they'll

52:02

say these things that that just

52:05

should not be associated with the NBA. It's

52:07

it's a great game with incredible

52:10

players, that's where everybody loves the playoffs

52:12

because they mean so much. The

52:15

playoffs mean so much, and reputations

52:18

are carved in the playoffs. Reputations

52:21

are not carved on All Star weekend. Reputations

52:24

are carved in the playoffs. And then

52:26

you see things that you've been waiting

52:28

all the season to see, you know, and

52:30

that is worth the price of admission, for sure.

52:33

There's nothing like playoff basketball. It's so much to

52:36

be courtside for those of the All Star

52:38

games that you have called what is your

52:40

favorite slam dunk contest

52:42

winner? Just dunk in general that's been in the contest

52:45

because there's been some fun ones. Robinson,

52:47

Nate Robinson, who is just a little guy,

52:50

has done some big, big time things.

52:52

He's he won a couple of years through, maybe

52:54

three years in a row, if I'm not mistaken, I know too.

52:57

Um, this stuff kind of gets fuzzy because it's all,

52:59

you know, just exhibition. It's not, you know,

53:02

much better on playoff questions and regular season

53:04

questions, stuff that that matters. But

53:06

but Nate Robinson, as small as he was

53:09

to leap that high, you know,

53:11

a man matt small should not fly that high.

53:13

And he did and has and

53:15

he was fun to watch. You know what really

53:18

stands out, quite honestly about that that's interesting

53:20

with you that you bring that up is are the guys

53:22

that don't make the shot and

53:25

they try it like thirteen Team

53:30

Jerry? Is that not it's

53:32

heartbreaking, it's you're anxious

53:34

here. You feel like you want to look away, Like it's

53:37

like you can see a crash coming right

53:40

and you think, oh my gosh, I gotta look away

53:42

here, I can't watch anymore. And then

53:44

you've got like I'm with Charles and Draymond

53:47

Green is going to join us this year, Reggie

53:49

Miller and the and the trash

53:51

talk that these guys did. These

53:54

players they can't get this dunk to

53:56

go down because they're trying to do you know, fifteen

53:58

worlds in a spin and then a you know, knock

54:00

it off their head and have kids. I

54:02

mean that they do all this stuff, yes,

54:06

costumes and stickers on the backboard,

54:08

and it is it is amazing

54:11

what they come up with. But this is the stuff like

54:13

that practice they're screwing around, dreaming

54:15

up and they come up with all this. So

54:18

the ingenuity is great. The diagram.

54:22

So let's go from A to B and B to C and C twod

54:25

it's like, Wow, if you can pull this off, it'll

54:28

be marvelous. But a lot

54:30

of times they have trouble pulling it off because you've got, you

54:32

know, millions of people watching a

54:34

full building, and and the

54:37

biggest name players sit in courtside

54:39

right there, right in front of you, you know, right there.

54:44

Yes, yes, no, no, it's it's right there.

54:47

I have two pitches for the dunk contest that I

54:49

think just stand perspect

54:52

One. I totally appreciate, like

54:54

you said, John Moran doesn't want to be out there missing

54:56

ten dunks that could really hurt everything

54:59

he's got going off the court, and no one wants

55:01

to get hurt. There are some amazing

55:03

almost professional dunkers, guys

55:06

who are on Instagram and social media who

55:08

are dunking a hundred and fifty times a

55:10

day, practicing these crazy

55:13

dunks that are not in an NBA season. I

55:15

think you still opened it up to any young player

55:17

like a Jericho Sims. You want great and

55:19

then you bring in four dunkers,

55:22

guys who have just been dunking forever. And I think

55:24

you got to bring back the point five

55:27

in the scoring system because now I

55:29

don't know what the fifty is anymore because some

55:32

the fifties are just thrown around so

55:34

easily. I think we bring back the point five,

55:36

we could get the forty nine and a half, and I think

55:38

that all out. That's my pitch to revamp.

55:41

If I work for the NBA to revamp the dunk contest,

55:44

I love that. In fact, what they should do is take

55:46

these YouTubers and put them on the screen so

55:48

we can all see what they've done and

55:51

and get us lathered up right for

55:53

for what For what these prowers could do.

55:56

The problem is those pros could could

55:58

never do that because they haven't practice. They

56:00

have not practiced, and they don't want to be embarrassed.

56:03

That's one of the big that's one of the big things. They

56:05

do not want to be embarrassed. And

56:07

I get it, you know what. I respect

56:10

that. And they say, the only thing

56:12

that gets me going is competition.

56:15

And in the heat of a game, where I don't

56:17

think about what I'm gonna do, it just comes like

56:19

Olivia uses were organically, it just happens

56:22

because it happens, and I'm in that frame

56:24

of mind, and that's when it means something and

56:26

is pure and not orchestrated,

56:29

not pre thought, not planned,

56:32

And I get all that that that is that

56:34

has a lot of validity to it. But

56:36

if we had something that

56:39

had the point five like

56:41

you talked about, it would make the voting a little

56:43

bit different because every dunk is not a ten.

56:46

I mean, it just isn't. It just is not. But

56:48

the guys that are grading feel like,

56:50

well, it's not a nine, but as good

56:52

best I saw tonight. So I'll put up a plaquer

56:55

that says ten. Right. So so Jerry, your

56:57

thought is as well as well

56:59

taken. I I think that that would be a great addition.

57:02

I know you were a little busy this week, but there is

57:04

a huge trade. Kevin Durant is now a

57:06

Phoenix Sun and they instantly become a top

57:09

contender. What were your initial thoughts on

57:11

this trade when he first saw it and then as

57:13

it simmered a little bit. Well, I've always thought

57:15

that Phoenix was a young team that could

57:17

be good for a long time with the cord that

57:19

they had minus Chris Paul who's

57:21

thirty six thirty seven years old, who's

57:24

on the clock in his window is closing, But

57:26

as long as he was around and still a voice in the

57:28

locker room and a leader around the floor, they

57:30

were going to be an interesting and they'll put another guard in there

57:32

some other day, but the core would be together,

57:35

right. They cam Johnson, They had mcel

57:37

Bridges who was a phenomenal young player,

57:39

and that was part of their big foundation with Devin

57:42

Booker and Ayton who's in the middle.

57:44

But boy, they went all in with draft

57:46

choices, young core, foundational

57:49

pieces and got got Durant

57:52

and they just had the team sell and

57:54

the new owner came in there and I guess he wanted

57:57

to make a splash and he certainly did

57:59

for an offense injured superstar who was in

58:01

his mid thirties but was having

58:03

an m v P type season when he was injured

58:06

and made the nets, you know, really really

58:09

good. So that's one

58:11

of those things you got to look at yourself in the mirror and say,

58:13

am I sacrificing the future for the present?

58:16

And clearly they are,

58:18

so it is kind of what it is. And

58:20

then we had Kyrie go to Dallas

58:23

and the Mavericks and they traded some wonderful

58:26

pieces around Don Chech that

58:28

made that team a Western Conference final

58:31

team a season ago. But you

58:33

need two superstars on a team to

58:36

win a title, and that was the thinking

58:38

in Phoenix because they get a couple of Durant with

58:41

Booker, who was first team All NBA

58:43

last season and a four time All Star. And

58:45

oh, by the way, we've got Chris Paul, you

58:47

know, at the controls at the steering wheel.

58:50

And then for Kyrie, a superstar

58:53

and his talented guard. As this

58:55

league has ever seen, it's just been

58:57

up here, which has been a little bit like law

59:00

Off Kilder clearly as we've

59:02

seen with his history. You pair him

59:04

with Don Chitch. Now you've got two superstars

59:06

there too. So you need

59:09

a Robin for a batman, you need you

59:12

need two superstars at the least

59:14

to make a run. And that's kind of

59:16

what what those teams thought

59:18

they had to do. So I love it

59:20

when teams do this because it gets the league

59:22

talking. They'll be fascinating

59:24

studies to see. And my guess

59:26

is for a half season that

59:30

it will be successful. The long term

59:32

will be sacrifice, but for a half season

59:34

this is gonna be fascinating to

59:36

watch. I agree with you on the playoff

59:39

part of it, too. That's why I was such a big

59:41

and maybe it's also too because I know the Nicks were never going

59:43

to qualify for regular playoffs for a while.

59:45

I'm such a fan of a play in, and like when

59:47

we talk about the West and I was just looking

59:50

we could potentially, I mean, there's gonna be a lot

59:52

of movement, but the play in as of right

59:54

now in the West goes New Orleans

59:57

and hopefully they get Zion back, Minnesota

59:59

go Olden State, and then we have Utah

1:00:02

hanging on for dear life. I don't imagine if they

1:00:04

stick there with the late like if the Lakers sneak

1:00:06

in like a Pelican's Warriors

1:00:09

Timberwolves Lakers plan, that's

1:00:11

going to be as good as any first round kind

1:00:14

of thing going on. I just love the play and I was

1:00:16

wondering your thoughts on the plan. You are

1:00:18

so right. It is it's

1:00:20

almost like sudden death and some circumstances

1:00:23

in that mix. It is so you've

1:00:25

got a shortened window, You've

1:00:28

got credible, incredible

1:00:31

urgency to win and win now,

1:00:33

and you cannot say, well, we'll make

1:00:35

it a five or seven game series. That does not happen

1:00:37

in this situation. So it is either

1:00:39

sudden death or maybe you fall after a

1:00:41

loss and you can get another chance. But man,

1:00:44

you are on the clock, and

1:00:46

that is the way people love it when you are fighting

1:00:48

for your life. You see incredible basketball

1:00:50

now with the Angelo Russell joining

1:00:52

the Lakers, healthy Lebron

1:00:55

and a healthy A D, that is a team

1:00:57

I would not want to face. I think they

1:01:00

would be an incredible out And

1:01:02

I think all they're thinking right now is

1:01:04

let's creep back in and

1:01:06

then we will will accelerate.

1:01:09

I mean they're trying. I mean they're trying to

1:01:11

win. They want to better their position, but

1:01:13

they've got to get in that little grouping there that play

1:01:15

and as you're talking about, so we need to really

1:01:18

you're so right, Jerry. We need to look at the conference

1:01:20

leaders as the top six, the

1:01:23

certain six, and when we're

1:01:25

talking, here are the teams as of the day that

1:01:27

are in. Here are the teams that are on the bubble

1:01:29

or in the playoffs, and it will resemble I

1:01:32

think the best thing the NBA has done with this is

1:01:34

it resembles the n c A Tournament, which

1:01:36

is right around the corner, and people

1:01:39

love it for that reason alone. You're playing

1:01:41

till the death. You're playing to the

1:01:43

blast second. There is no tomorrow.

1:01:46

If we don't win, we are gone. That's

1:01:48

what makes that tournament so great,

1:01:50

both in the NBA and in the n

1:01:53

c A, the college tournament. And you know,

1:01:55

you can't ask as a fan, or a broadcaster

1:01:57

or or anybody more than a

1:01:59

chance to to lay it all on the line for

1:02:01

one game. And that's what we get with those two

1:02:03

scenarios. Jerry, doesn't that remind

1:02:05

you of the pump up speech I give you before we record

1:02:08

every podcast Tomorrow?

1:02:12

I think we're a top six seed though you

1:02:17

definitely or that's exactly

1:02:19

you don't have to worry about playing in at all. I

1:02:21

gotta ask you one question in the East too, because

1:02:23

the other night Boston without their all stars,

1:02:26

nearly beat the Bucks, took them overtime. Who

1:02:28

do you see coming out of the East when you think about those

1:02:30

two teams, especially, well, what I'm

1:02:32

looking I get to do the East Finals so

1:02:35

that I cannot wait. I cannot wait.

1:02:37

I think any of these teams, I don't

1:02:39

know what's going to happen to Brooklyn. Now they've reconstituted

1:02:42

their team, but they're still strong.

1:02:44

They're a solid team. Nix. I

1:02:47

saw him the other night, the Knicks, and

1:02:49

they played the Nets. I'm a big bibbot

1:02:52

O fan. Anyway, their coach, I love

1:02:54

Julius. He Randall

1:02:57

works as hard as any player, and

1:02:59

he know he's got to right. He knows

1:03:01

he's got this team on his shoulder. But I

1:03:03

love some of the kids on their team, and so

1:03:06

I'm watching them with interest. But the

1:03:08

usual suspects. You're right, Philly,

1:03:11

Boston, Milwaukee, Miami

1:03:13

is so well coach, you've got to include them, the

1:03:15

Nets, the Knicks. I know we're gonna have some other

1:03:18

teams creep in there, but I guess my

1:03:20

my view is on that grouping

1:03:22

right now. Milwaukee made

1:03:24

a great move. We're talking about trades and the

1:03:27

moves before the deadline. They got Jay

1:03:29

Crowder. They needed a defensive

1:03:31

wing, and they needed a guy that could shoot

1:03:33

the three, and they got the added bonus

1:03:36

of a guy who's been in big playoff

1:03:38

games, played in some recent finals.

1:03:40

He knows the world that that is

1:03:43

and he just strengthens their bench evermore.

1:03:46

And when Bobby Portis comes back. I don't think Porters

1:03:48

played the other night. I don't think he's back. Yet when

1:03:50

porter and he was, he's been out for like two or three weeks.

1:03:52

I don't think he's back. So when Portis is back,

1:03:55

now they've got their bench, which is gonna be

1:03:57

just like hold on to your

1:03:59

huts. It's gonna be phenomenal.

1:04:02

I like, and Middleton has come back. Middleton has

1:04:04

missed two big sections. He missed twenty

1:04:06

games early on, then eighteen games he had a thumb

1:04:08

injury, had knee sorenus. Now he's

1:04:10

back. They're working in back in slowly. They gotta

1:04:12

watch his minutes. Man, is he's

1:04:15

an all star. He's an all Star caliber player. And

1:04:17

you put them with the honest who's I still

1:04:19

think the single best, most exciting player

1:04:21

in the league to do what he's doing at

1:04:24

his size is he dribbles

1:04:26

like a guard. He moves like a forward. He

1:04:28

shoots like a marksman outside from three.

1:04:31

He's developed that part of his game. And then

1:04:33

he moves like when he goes through a lane,

1:04:36

he gives you eight. He moves like

1:04:38

every joint in his body right, He's like he's

1:04:40

just like he's like a plastic man. He's

1:04:42

like he's like so angular and

1:04:44

he's like doing all this stuff like

1:04:47

I don't I can't process

1:04:50

him. So the East

1:04:52

is gonna be dynamite and the

1:04:54

West will be good if Kyrie and Durant

1:04:56

stay healthy. But that is the big if,

1:04:59

if they can't stay healthy, and

1:05:01

if Lebron and a d can

1:05:03

stay healthy. So there's a lot of unknown

1:05:05

in the West, but the East seems to be

1:05:08

intact and it's going to be a fight

1:05:10

to the finish. It's gonna be marvelous.

1:05:13

The things your brain holds onto

1:05:15

and you remember everything, it's no wonder

1:05:18

why at the dinner table sometimes you have no idea

1:05:20

what we're talking about. Your brain

1:05:22

is holding so much information from sports.

1:05:26

But you guys are too though. I know Exaccho what

1:05:28

you do, you too do to prepare. So now

1:05:30

that football is over and you're you're

1:05:33

so immersed in football, this NBA

1:05:35

well, first way that the nt A Tournament, and we got

1:05:37

to get through that before we get to the playoffs,

1:05:39

which you're looking forward to. You I've

1:05:43

done twenty five years of those, and

1:05:45

I love the tournament in every way.

1:05:48

That first day when those eight teams

1:05:50

come out to practice and it is a long day, and

1:05:52

it is it is a that first day

1:05:54

that we broadcast, we do eight teams in

1:05:56

four games, all in one twelve

1:05:58

hour period. It's, uh, you know,

1:06:00

physically it's hard. Mentally it's it's

1:06:03

excruciating, and you're just trying to

1:06:05

get the names of the team's right and

1:06:07

the names of the kids right because

1:06:09

you see so much but fans

1:06:11

those kids to get there. That could be the last

1:06:13

college game they ever played, and so,

1:06:15

like I was saying before, they play with such gusto

1:06:18

and it means so much, and

1:06:20

that's that is just a blast to be a

1:06:22

part of. For a lot of them, it's the last time they play

1:06:24

organized basketball. It's sure is

1:06:28

your husband played in two final fours. That

1:06:30

just does not happen. That just does

1:06:32

not happen. So when you play in the tournament,

1:06:35

it's like a life altering experience.

1:06:38

If you can make it with a couple of wins and

1:06:40

become you know, a story that is

1:06:42

something that in your wildest imagination you

1:06:44

can't process. And then if

1:06:46

you're lucky to make it through all of that, including

1:06:49

the regular season and your conferences

1:06:51

tournament thing, now you've made it to

1:06:53

a final four or in Elite eight, you

1:06:55

think, boy, have I been blessed more than

1:06:57

I deserve. And I look at the ys

1:07:00

of those kids, and that's how they feel. They feel like

1:07:02

I am living a dream that hundreds

1:07:05

of thousands of kids over all these

1:07:07

years and all these leagues and all these games

1:07:09

and teams and from high school

1:07:11

just think their parents took them from from

1:07:14

when they're just little guys and gals, you

1:07:16

know, at five and six years old, to practice

1:07:18

and all the times they shot baskets

1:07:20

in their backyard, you know, on their on their

1:07:22

own driveway, and and then for

1:07:24

them to make it there that almost because

1:07:26

the NBA is so nebulous and

1:07:28

so like unrealistic, to

1:07:30

make it into that tournament and to work your way through

1:07:33

the tournament. That really is the dream

1:07:35

of all college, of all all kids who

1:07:37

play basketball, is can I make it

1:07:39

into that tournament and be as something, you know,

1:07:41

part of something that is so much bigger

1:07:43

than me and something that just

1:07:46

funnels all my hopes and dreams into

1:07:48

one three week area

1:07:51

and and that is so fun to be a part of. To

1:07:53

watch that, well, I can't wait to hear you. Sorry,

1:07:56

And I'm going to give you a little prediction. It's a homework.

1:07:58

Do do do it with my guy Jericho

1:08:01

Sims. I've watched next

1:08:03

game. There's times where he looks

1:08:06

like he could take a coin off the top of the backboard.

1:08:08

So I know the big guys don't always fare well,

1:08:11

but just I'm just calling it now,

1:08:13

keep a good eye on my man Jericho

1:08:15

Sims. That may come out in our broadcast.

1:08:18

There's a matter of fact they made that made that may slip

1:08:20

out there a little bit. That'll be a shameless

1:08:22

plug and and uh

1:08:25

and and bring you out into the uh into

1:08:27

the national consciousness on that Saturday

1:08:29

night platform. I'm gonna

1:08:31

keep that in mind. Yeah, if you can plug

1:08:33

you know, this week I was on the bed MGM Unleashed

1:08:36

podcast. They have two amazing hosts.

1:08:38

That'd be that'd be good. But last time,

1:08:40

Jerry, you don't know this. Last time I said to Dad,

1:08:42

oh, you should slip this in the broadcast a regular

1:08:45

season game. He said, b E t MGM

1:08:48

spelled out the whole thing. So

1:08:51

I think now he's got it. Dad. We have taken up

1:08:53

too much of your time, and I know my mother

1:08:55

is probably wanting you back to join her for lunch or

1:08:57

something. So thank you so much. As you've seen

1:08:59

it's got dark here in London. Since we've been here,

1:09:01

it has It is amazing. I feel

1:09:03

like we're family, Jerry, because we see

1:09:06

you in Olivia every week with this

1:09:08

great show. And to hear her

1:09:10

talk about you and how much he's enjoyed being

1:09:12

with you and co hosting this and being

1:09:14

a pro with you is very gratifying for a

1:09:16

father. So I enjoy you both very

1:09:18

much. And I'll be watching

1:09:21

and I'll be listening and enjoying. All

1:09:42

right. You know when you hear that music, we are about to dig

1:09:44

into entreage. So Jerry, I'm

1:09:47

season seven, episode two, and

1:09:50

what I've seen so far is your business

1:09:52

has taken off, which has been really fun to see

1:09:55

all the cars with Turtle and the license weight. I'm

1:09:57

curious, do you have any of those license plates?

1:09:59

And have you ever put one of them on your

1:10:01

own car? Great question

1:10:04

and also great idea. I

1:10:06

don't have one. I wish I did.

1:10:08

And I'm known for taking things from the set

1:10:10

that I think we'll just hey like like I had like

1:10:12

years ago. I wore a giant jersey

1:10:14

on the show that said Turtle on the back. I

1:10:17

have that jersey. I took a lot of the jersey

1:10:19

I have, like the Kevin Garnett McDonald's

1:10:21

all American jersey that I wore. But

1:10:23

no, that would have been a great light. That would have been great

1:10:26

to take. What a great idea. No, I didn't do

1:10:28

it like an idiot. I should have. You

1:10:30

know, you still can just next time you register

1:10:32

a car. It's just not the same, like to

1:10:34

know that that's where that came from. You know,

1:10:36

it would have been great if it was like the actual from

1:10:39

the set. I like stuff like that. So

1:10:41

if you did do it, though, would you not like

1:10:44

being recognized that much? Because I'm sure people

1:10:46

know now that, like you live in Cleveland and they'd

1:10:48

see you driving. I definitely wouldn't put it on

1:10:50

my car. I would probably like frame

1:10:52

it and hang it somewhere back there in the office

1:10:55

wall of fame. I don't or give it to my mom,

1:10:57

who is literally the biggest collector of Entourage

1:11:00

merchandise you've ever seen. I don't know

1:11:02

why she buys it. I tell her, Mom, I can get you some

1:11:04

of that stuff for free. She still buys it. And

1:11:06

you go. You walk in the house, you asked

1:11:09

for a cup of coffee, You're getting served with an Entourage

1:11:11

coffee mug. You want a shot of tequila,

1:11:13

You're getting an Entourage shot glass coming

1:11:15

at you. Nice. We've

1:11:18

never learned. We do know your real name is Sal Salvatore,

1:11:21

right, we don't know why Turtle, Like, what

1:11:23

is the reason for the nickname? I

1:11:25

could honestly say it has never been answered.

1:11:28

I've asked Doug Ellen numerous times. He said,

1:11:30

I have no idea. I just thought it was a funny nick

1:11:32

name. So I don't have a great answer

1:11:34

for that. There is a great answer for why

1:11:36

the character's name is Sal, if you want that.

1:11:39

So years ago one

1:11:41

of my best childhood friends unfortunately

1:11:44

passed away when he was about twenty two years old.

1:11:46

Okay, and in my

1:11:48

mind when I was even auditioning for Turtle,

1:11:50

not that my friend was exactly like Turtle,

1:11:53

but there's definitely more things I pulled

1:11:55

like I was playing a version of that, like fun

1:11:57

loving guy, love to party, just

1:12:00

like he was that guy. A little bit. I told

1:12:02

Doug maybe, like in season three, as a joke,

1:12:04

you know, if Turn ever gets a real name, I'd love it to be

1:12:06

after my friend Sal. That's who I'm playing. Doug

1:12:09

said, yeah, yeah, sure, we'll figure out when we get

1:12:11

there. Never discussed it again. When

1:12:13

I got that script with Jamie Lynn where

1:12:15

I tell her my name, I had no

1:12:17

idea it was coming. So I was reading

1:12:20

the script. I get to that part and I froze

1:12:22

and I dropped the script and I was like

1:12:25

like crippled for a second because I couldn't believe

1:12:27

he did that as a gesture.

1:12:30

And to this day, my friend's family like any

1:12:32

time, Like the character's name is sal Assante,

1:12:35

which is my friend's name. It's in like the television

1:12:37

Hall of Fame in a way. So it's

1:12:39

the coolest thing that anyone's ever done

1:12:42

for me. Wow. Okay, that's heavy.

1:12:44

Did you tear up when you actually went to film

1:12:46

it? Oh? I was so. I was like shaking

1:12:49

that day and I even, uh,

1:12:51

you're gonna get to an episode or maybe it is the episode.

1:12:53

Is the turtle character's credit card canceled? Yet

1:12:55

it's not. It's happening right now. So I

1:12:58

have that credit card. I don't know if it's in my

1:13:00

wallet, but it says it's a fake credit

1:13:02

card that says saltatur Sante on it, and

1:13:06

I kept it. I usually keep it in my wallet. Yes,

1:13:09

Oh, my god. Okay, that's gonna make

1:13:11

me cry still earlier. That's a that's an

1:13:13

amazing story. Okay, I'm loving Entourage.

1:13:16

We're having fun with it. Season seven. I'm

1:13:18

liking so far. You've kind of given me. The

1:13:21

warning still stands. You haven't gotten there yet.

1:13:23

The warning still stands more

1:13:25

to come. Okay,

1:13:36

you two both have beef with

1:13:39

Miles Sanders, and he really kept

1:13:41

both from winning some money. So I hope you don't run into

1:13:43

him in the streets somewhere. But Pete, walk

1:13:45

us through what you lost with Miles Sanders not scoring

1:13:47

a touchdown. Yeah. So we

1:13:50

had a great day in terms of picks, and we'll get

1:13:52

to those in a second. But I had

1:13:54

a seventy five to one shot one game

1:13:56

parlay that would have net

1:13:58

out a couple of grand on a fifty

1:14:01

bet, and Miles Sanders

1:14:03

anytime touchdown was the only thing that missed. So I

1:14:05

had Kelsey anytime hurts,

1:14:07

anytime, a bunch of different overs.

1:14:10

I achieved money. Line in there. Miles

1:14:12

Sanders the one guy who let me down, and I think he let

1:14:14

the world down because he had a superport

1:14:17

performance. It could have been a Miles Sanders

1:14:19

anything anything anytime that like,

1:14:22

give us anything at any time, give

1:14:24

us anything like a two yards maybe

1:14:26

it would have been great. Your prop pick was

1:14:29

over thirteen and a half longest rush attempt

1:14:31

and he didn't even come close to that. I think he had a six yeard

1:14:33

run. How was it? Yeah, Jerry, what was your other prop

1:14:36

pick? It was Bucker under one and a

1:14:38

half field goal attempts and he only

1:14:40

had one, which was the game winner, and he missed he joinked

1:14:42

that other one. So you know, yeah,

1:14:45

Sanders just didn't show up. It was tough.

1:14:47

Overall, you did all right at the Super

1:14:49

Bowl, Yes, yeah, I mean, first of all,

1:14:51

great week with you guys, right, We got a little dolphin,

1:14:54

We had a great dinner, you get to

1:14:56

meet some of the bed MGM team. But as

1:14:58

for the picks, did pretty well. So gained

1:15:00

well over nineteen and a half rushing yards, Pacheco

1:15:03

rushing receiving over sixty and one and a half. I don't

1:15:05

think he even had reception yards. I think he just didn't

1:15:07

all rushing had

1:15:09

a great game. Davante Smith over

1:15:11

twenty three and a half longest reception hit

1:15:14

actually was stuck at twenty three for a while. And

1:15:17

I was nervous, and then he had that forty five yard

1:15:19

or that he broke away. I gave the little

1:15:21

pick at the end two of over sixty one

1:15:23

and a half receiving yards, that number had weirdly gone down.

1:15:26

He hit that by forty fifty yards. The

1:15:28

only thing we lost was well,

1:15:32

not the Reddick flyer that we took,

1:15:34

but Kelsey over six and a half

1:15:36

receptions. I think he ended the six. But

1:15:40

they didn't need him. I mean they he obviously had

1:15:42

a couple of big plays, but everybody

1:15:45

else was working. The refs were working at

1:15:47

for him too, and they were using

1:15:49

pretty much every weapon. So can

1:15:51

I ask you roughly, you know how

1:15:54

the book? How did the book do? Like roughly?

1:15:57

Like dead

1:15:59

neutral? So okay, all right, yeah

1:16:01

it was a so let me

1:16:03

break it down. So I think the result was good for us

1:16:06

in terms of the Eagles losing. But when

1:16:09

every prop hit, so I mean almost

1:16:11

every single anytime touchdown score hit

1:16:14

that someone would probably besides Miles Sanders,

1:16:17

that obviously hurts us because then you start to factor

1:16:19

in all those one game parlays that people had, so anybody

1:16:21

had eats and Kelsey

1:16:23

touchdown and the next thing. Um,

1:16:26

that's what balanced the book out. But but

1:16:28

overall it was a very much probably

1:16:31

would have been not so great exactly.

1:16:33

So this was I think this was the result we wanted.

1:16:36

Gives gives all of our customers a couple of bucks

1:16:38

going into the week, so it's a good thing. And yeah,

1:16:41

now we pivot to two NBA and NHL

1:16:43

and March Madness and next

1:16:47

golf. We got golf. We got golf

1:16:50

real quick. With the promo that you were telling

1:16:52

us about last week, the prop bet challenge, what

1:16:55

was the takeaway from that? I mean, not that anyone's

1:16:57

counting, but both of mine hit, So

1:17:00

you were the only one where both of your props

1:17:02

hit. I think I'm telling I was like fire,

1:17:06

Jerry went olive, guys

1:17:09

like Kevin Garnett, I think one zero percent. So

1:17:12

we had a really great turn out. We have two

1:17:14

amazing winners, one in Ohio and one in Ontario.

1:17:17

So they're being contacted today, which is amazing.

1:17:19

They both are thousand dollars richer,

1:17:21

which is me wow, it's not um,

1:17:26

it is confirmed, not Jerry. No insider

1:17:28

trading here. But we're

1:17:30

thrilled, thrilled, and we had a great turn out. A

1:17:32

lot of adoptions, so it's great to see and great

1:17:34

to have two customers a hundred thousand dollars

1:17:36

richer. I know the lines aren't

1:17:38

out for the All Star Game this weekend in the

1:17:41

NBA, but what are some things that are fun

1:17:43

that people can bet on once they do come out? Take

1:17:46

the over? It's

1:17:48

like the game Take the over.

1:17:51

Obviously you got all the

1:17:54

the three point contests, the slamdown

1:17:57

contests, so I think that's where most of the fun will

1:17:59

lie. The game is

1:18:02

depends how you look at it. I mean, it's

1:18:04

a pretty non appealing game for three quarters, and I

1:18:06

think everybody turns it up a notch coming into the fourth.

1:18:09

But when in doubt, I think just always take the over.

1:18:11

The defense lacks the year and year,

1:18:14

you know year, and your end just continues to drop.

1:18:16

So I think safe that is just take the

1:18:18

over there. So do you start

1:18:21

looking at NFL next season?

1:18:23

Now? I know I have a lot of friends who their

1:18:25

work for next season starts like right

1:18:28

at the buzzer of the game. So

1:18:30

have you given that a look? And are you bringing

1:18:32

anything for us today with that?

1:18:35

Yeah? Yeah, So I think it starts

1:18:37

a little bit day after Super Bowl, and

1:18:39

then probably the next iteration of it is after

1:18:42

the draft, when you actually start to see teams

1:18:44

form a little bit more. For me, it's

1:18:46

great value right now. So you look at teams

1:18:49

that either have a great team

1:18:51

that have been priced weirdly. Maybe they

1:18:53

have a great team, they're missing a piece and

1:18:55

the anticipation this year is that they will get that

1:18:57

piece. So if I start with the Jets only

1:19:00

five to one, they have a pretty

1:19:02

good team. They obviously have offensive

1:19:04

and defensive rookies of the year in Sauce

1:19:07

Gardner and Karatt Wilson, so

1:19:09

they have weapons, Robert Salo's defense,

1:19:12

ken Ball. They're missing a quarterback.

1:19:14

I think all the rumors around the world are is

1:19:16

it Derek Carr, Is it Aaron Rodgers? They're

1:19:18

going to get someone. They also have the I think

1:19:20

the tenth or thirteenth overall pick this year, so they have

1:19:23

a fairly high pick in the draft. So

1:19:25

you start putting all that together to

1:19:27

one, then you get Aaron Rodgers drops

1:19:29

the fifteen or twelve to one, something like that. I'm

1:19:32

still yeah, I saw that, and

1:19:34

it definitely was puzzling at first, but you just

1:19:36

broke it down elegantly

1:19:39

because I do think that, yeah, they're the quarterback

1:19:41

away, but we're still

1:19:43

talking about very experienced

1:19:45

head coach, very young team.

1:19:48

You know, maybe if it's Rogers, I get

1:19:50

you think it drops that low. If it's Rogers, get

1:19:52

hit, it gets like twelve or fifteen to one, Like it

1:19:55

it was Derek Carr. I think you can put it up

1:19:57

forty to one if it's Derek Carr. Yeah, it might

1:19:59

go the other ways, right, But

1:20:01

I think to your point, there's still the Jets.

1:20:03

It's still an inexperienced coach. I think it's pure

1:20:06

value. So you just have to look at it in that

1:20:08

sense that you're getting something that will eventually

1:20:10

change value in a couple of weeks or a couple of

1:20:12

months. I'm gonna keep an eye on that. I

1:20:14

just refused to put money on the Jet

1:20:16

to win the Super Bowl as a Giants fan. I just

1:20:19

refused. Okay, what else? What else?

1:20:21

Is one of these three? You'll

1:20:23

love? So Jets one,

1:20:26

Dolphins thirty to one, another intriguing

1:20:28

one. They have a very very

1:20:31

well built out team, especially on the offensive

1:20:33

side. I think there's just a lot of question marks

1:20:35

around to uh, his health, where

1:20:37

does he go? Does he stay committed to football.

1:20:39

With all the injuries, the scary injuries. He had again

1:20:42

the team that if they decided to roll the dice and

1:20:44

make a big splash from from a quarterback

1:20:46

point of view, they're probably a

1:20:49

favorite in the in the a f C. What

1:20:51

splash could that be? I'm thinking of that. I'm

1:20:53

with you on that because they're their roster on

1:20:56

both sides of the ball is really really strong and

1:20:58

really like, if it's a healthy toa and we know where

1:21:00

you know, then yes, I think that that's a thirty

1:21:03

to one. I think you'd be a fool not to sprinkle

1:21:05

a little bit. But in the event that it's

1:21:07

not to h you know, I

1:21:10

don't know. I've never heard anything about Rogers

1:21:12

to Miami, right, Jimmy

1:21:14

G Like, what who's the I

1:21:17

think you have to consider the money.

1:21:20

Obviously, they're paying to rekill what thirty million

1:21:22

a year, so their budget, their

1:21:24

budget is not the same as the Jets or someone else.

1:21:27

Brady as an example, would have been a great offer.

1:21:29

I think you're not a low value. He doesn't

1:21:31

retire. He comes in playing with you, rekaill,

1:21:34

playing with lots of weapons. But

1:21:36

to your point, well, he's not there. It's

1:21:38

it's probably a guy like Jimmy g is probably someone

1:21:41

that can run an offense. I

1:21:43

hope, I really do. I hope

1:21:45

it's. I feel for the guy.

1:21:47

I feel for the guy. I just I think there's

1:21:50

probably a lot of concerns in Miami and you probably

1:21:52

need to be at least bringing the backup because

1:21:54

obviously as they went down the depth chart, that's

1:21:56

when there's their season kind of turned for the worst.

1:21:58

All Right, where's this one that I'm gonna like? Because

1:22:01

so far those are okay? I'm

1:22:03

with you on the fins, But where's the one I'm

1:22:05

gonna like a lot? So your Seattle

1:22:07

Seahawks, Yes, Si, that

1:22:11

is a crazy price for a team

1:22:13

that made the playoffs are

1:22:16

only getting better. They're probably going to re up

1:22:18

Chino. But I think there's an important piece

1:22:20

to all this. They got a lot back for

1:22:22

Russell Wilson last year, including a top five pick,

1:22:25

so they're gonna be drafting I think twice in

1:22:28

the first picks of the draft

1:22:30

this year. They're going to get a skilled playmaker.

1:22:32

They have some money to spend. Again,

1:22:35

do I think the Seahawks are gonna win the Super Bowl? Probably

1:22:38

not. But that's

1:22:40

a that's a jerry for our a lottery tickets,

1:22:43

specially the Yeah, maybe they trade

1:22:46

they could trade up with two picks.

1:22:48

They could they could trade back. They

1:22:50

could do a lot with those picks.

1:22:52

And to me, like, no disrespect to your Niners,

1:22:55

who are still the team to beat in that division, but definitely

1:22:58

an unstable quarterback position for right

1:23:00

now. I mean, we love Pertie, you

1:23:02

know we're waiting on Lance.

1:23:05

But I do think the Rams might have a little

1:23:07

bit to say. I just can't imagine

1:23:09

McVeigh just go like coming back for another

1:23:12

year of what we just witnessed, because

1:23:15

I don't think you would be down for that. So, but

1:23:17

I don't know what division is wide open to me

1:23:20

still a little bit. All three of those

1:23:22

teams to me have a chance to obviously make the playoffs

1:23:24

and make it make somewhat of a run. The Cardinals

1:23:27

have zero shot there in turmoil with

1:23:29

Kyler out for at least what at least probably

1:23:31

half the year, Kingsbury out, I

1:23:33

mean that team

1:23:35

yeah, full rebuilders, right, So

1:23:38

Seahawks one, I think

1:23:40

again, they do a good job in the draft,

1:23:42

they do a good job in free agency. That number

1:23:44

goes to fifty. That number goes the forty, it probably never

1:23:46

goes to one. But um,

1:23:48

with Pete Carroll and the way you coached that team, a team that was

1:23:50

supposed to win what four and a half games, I

1:23:53

think you sprinkle a little on that one. Love it,

1:23:55

love it. Hope they get Gino back to get

1:23:57

a non exclusive tag coming up, that's like next

1:24:00

week February twenty one is when they can start

1:24:02

negotiating that. He could become a free agent March

1:24:04

fifteen if they don't. So that's something to

1:24:06

watch too before you make that bet. I think yeah,

1:24:09

totally. But as far as golf

1:24:11

tournaments coming up this weekend, what

1:24:13

do you like? So Genesis is this

1:24:15

weekend exciting tournament at Riviera

1:24:17

in California. So I'll

1:24:20

start with the Cali guys. So Max Homa

1:24:23

he won right

1:24:26

absolutely, if you haven't seen from a couple

1:24:28

of seasons ago, he's one of those guys that's

1:24:31

firing on all cylinders. He's instituted

1:24:33

himself, is probably a top fifteen golfer. Like

1:24:35

I said, he won the tournament two years ago. Means

1:24:37

a lot to him, especially this is kind of Tiger's tournament

1:24:40

him growing up such a huge Tiger fan. He's

1:24:42

twenty two one. That's a great price for

1:24:44

a guy who's won only two years ago. And

1:24:47

I think four out of six of Max's PGA

1:24:50

Tour wins actually happened in the state of California,

1:24:53

so something about going home. He loves

1:24:55

to win and loves to show up, So Homa

1:24:57

two one, I think is a great beat. You

1:24:59

can also sprinkle some top five, top ten bets

1:25:01

that we haven't bet him gym as well, But I think

1:25:03

taking him out right and then playing a

1:25:05

little bit of the hedge team as things get closer into the

1:25:07

weekend is is kind of my route. And then I'm

1:25:10

gonna take three guys here that all

1:25:12

looked really good, especially at

1:25:14

TPC Scots Now last weekend at the Waste Management

1:25:17

start with Justin Thomas sixteen to one,

1:25:19

especially on the back half of the round probably

1:25:22

Saturday and Sunday. He was driving the ball

1:25:24

as good as anyone, and he

1:25:26

is a top five golfer. He has a great

1:25:28

short game. I think he's played well at Rivera

1:25:30

but in the past, so sixteen to one

1:25:33

again seems like a fairly aggressive price. I

1:25:35

had probably looked at him in somewhere around ten to one, so

1:25:38

again a value picked there with j T. A

1:25:40

little home cooking for me with my guy, Kegan

1:25:42

Bradley six to one,

1:25:44

a guy who was in the top ten for most of TPC

1:25:47

Scottsdale, most of the waste management first

1:25:50

two three days looked really good. He's always

1:25:52

had concerns around his potter and was putting

1:25:54

really really well. So again a six one

1:25:56

flyer I think makes lots of sense. And then

1:25:59

the pick that makes no sense to me, Scottie

1:26:01

Scheffler, is only ten to one. This

1:26:03

guy does nothing but win, and

1:26:06

even last week he looked really bad

1:26:08

in this last round on Sunday

1:26:10

and still managed to win by a couple of strokes.

1:26:13

By far, the best golfer right now has been

1:26:15

for the last probably eight to ten months, and

1:26:17

I expect him to just continue to pump out top five

1:26:19

finishes and he'll be there at the end of this at Riviera.

1:26:22

So ten to one when he probably

1:26:24

should be somewhere around five or six to one, I

1:26:26

think makes a lot of logical sense. He'll fix

1:26:29

some of the kinks that he had where he had a poor round on Sunday,

1:26:31

and he'll be backfiring this weekend. To me, this

1:26:33

is like the beginning of golf season. You

1:26:35

know, the Super Bowl ends, we get the Waste

1:26:38

Management Phoenix Open, and now

1:26:40

we go right into the California

1:26:42

kind of swing, which takes us right into the

1:26:44

Master, so golf season to start. Look, I'm excited

1:26:47

because Tiger Woods is playing. I know that

1:26:49

just is the best thing for golf that could

1:26:51

happen, of course, but realistically

1:26:54

we haven't seen him play a non major and

1:26:57

two years, three years, so I

1:26:59

don't think we could really put any I think he's a ten

1:27:01

thousand to one or something to win whatever. But

1:27:04

bet MGM does have some interesting Round

1:27:06

one Tiger Woods specials that I want to throw

1:27:08

at you guys. I find a few of these really

1:27:10

interesting. First one is bogey free,

1:27:13

which is plus twenty two hundred. I

1:27:15

think he's gonna make a bogie. Let's just say, I think

1:27:17

he's gonna make a bogie, eagle or birdie the

1:27:19

first hole minus two. I'm

1:27:23

gonna stay away on that. The ones I like

1:27:25

a lot to make an eagle

1:27:27

plus seven hundred. This is still

1:27:29

Tiger Woods. We might get a lot of bogies,

1:27:32

but he always kind of bounces back and

1:27:34

then to me, what I mean four

1:27:37

or more birdie's plus one twenty.

1:27:39

I think that's a great bet. And then to shoot

1:27:41

and this is again there is only round one to shoot seven

1:27:44

year lower plus one forty. I

1:27:46

think those are some strong I gotta have a little

1:27:48

tiger Woods action on this, on this tournament.

1:27:50

I just have to have it. Yeah,

1:27:53

totally. I think the last three make a ton of sense

1:27:55

to me. You probably show concerns from

1:27:58

him if he makes the cut going into at

1:28:00

Her in Sunday, when his body starts wearing down a little bit.

1:28:02

But first round he's gonna be driving the

1:28:04

ball. Well, he's gonna have eagle

1:28:06

doble holes where he's driving into

1:28:09

or you know, hitting the green into. So I love

1:28:11

that. I think the birdie one is my favorite

1:28:13

out of all those, because to your

1:28:15

point, he's gonna pump out birdies. He's gonna hit bogies

1:28:17

and birdies, bogeis and berries. But

1:28:20

all he needs to do is go to three

1:28:22

under to hit you know, sixty nine are better. So that's

1:28:25

not a crazy ask, especially early in the round,

1:28:27

especially at one of his tournaments. So I

1:28:30

love those first three probably like you would

1:28:32

stay away from the first two of bogey free and eagling

1:28:35

the Bertie or eagle in the first hole.

1:28:37

Let's I think historically the first

1:28:39

tea box has been some of those ones

1:28:41

that have been like WHOA, where did that drive? Later

1:28:44

in his career, not early in his career. You know, I

1:28:46

think the first tea box has always been not

1:28:49

necessarily a carry over from the range. Pete,

1:28:51

you had a great year. I thought, all in

1:28:53

all, you started off the football season it was

1:28:55

a little rough in places, but you got

1:28:58

you got real hot, and I thought you finished

1:29:00

strong. All in all, I would say you

1:29:02

were a playoff team. I don't think you won the

1:29:04

Super Bowl this year, but I think you were a

1:29:06

strong playoff team. You might have even gotten out of the first

1:29:08

round. First of all, it's a wee. It's

1:29:10

not an eye here. You guys

1:29:12

carried me. We had a couple of blips.

1:29:15

We had to Jerry. I always think

1:29:17

of this like turning point of the season, where it is I

1:29:19

had to put that big Chalky that was like

1:29:21

my we hired Jeff Saturday kind of

1:29:23

game. And we have four biggest favorites of

1:29:25

the week. Yeah,

1:29:29

but you gotta listen. You gotta

1:29:31

hit the bottom sometimes to work your way up.

1:29:33

I think I just made that up, but it really did

1:29:35

help me to just getting

1:29:37

out that first one out of the way. Then

1:29:39

we started hitting one game parlays. We started

1:29:41

having plus ten unit weeks. So big

1:29:43

credit to you guys for keeping me keep me up

1:29:46

there, all right, Pete. It's always a

1:29:48

pleasure. It's even more fun in person. So we hope

1:29:50

we can do this all again soon. Yeah, absolutely,

1:29:52

guys, take care, all right. Fun,

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1:30:26

go take a look at the YouTube page, and you know, just

1:30:29

sign our football. It was a great, great

1:30:31

season. I'm gonna miss you every Sunday.

1:30:34

Now. I'm going to be at the playground this Sunday

1:30:36

at one o'clock probably is the weather gets

1:30:38

warmer, so r I P the Sunday's

1:30:42

l O L. He thinks we're done talking about football all

1:30:44

right. Thanks everyone for joining