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Wall Street Unplugged looks beyond the regular
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headlines. Heard on mainstream financial
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media to bring you unscripted interviews
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and breaking commentary direct from Wall Street,
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right to
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you on Mainstream. It's
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going up there. It's November 15th.
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I'm Frank Kerz, that's the Wall Street Unplugged podcast where I break down headlines
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and
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tell you what's really moving these markets. So
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to start this podcast, I just have one
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important thing to say. Rock
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Chalk Jayhawks! Man,
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I love college basketball. By
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far my favorite sport. You guys know
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I played basketball for most of my life. And I'm
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getting back to it after my hip replacement, my
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second one. I'm actually going to start playing. We'll
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see how that
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goes. I'm going to keep living. I
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want to be conservative in my life. Man,
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college basketball
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is awesome. Kansas played
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Kentucky last night. Started
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9-45.
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Nice night game. They
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wound up winning the game. Probably because Kentucky
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was missing three of their seven-footers. Which
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are all coming back in a few weeks. Kentucky
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look really
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good. Lots of freshmen as usual.
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Calipari. Great,
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great team. Insane. Athletic
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as hell. Made some mistakes at the end. But definitely a team to watch
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for the tournament. Kansas ranked
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number one to start the year most because
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Hunter Dickinson transferred from Michigan to KU. And by the way, if you're
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watching my video on YouTube, here's
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my nice national championship bottle for Kansas
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for KU. It's awesome. I actually went to that
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game. In New Orleans. Watched them win
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after being down by a lot. I
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think it was like 14,
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15 points going into half. Yes, I was nervous, but they won.
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They're the best team in the country. Again, Hunter Dickinson is amazing. Left
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Michigan to go to final year to Kansas,
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which is kind of weird. You really don't like that. You see
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it in baseball as well. And, you know, all
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the play, especially midway through the season, they all just joined
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other teams.
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team and if you're doing really bad and football
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we saw with Washington, you know Washington lost the game,
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they get rid of everyone and then you have the Chiefs picking
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up, you know Chase Young and stuff like that. It's
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kind of
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kind of crazy
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but he wants more exposure and he got
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it. He's got 27 points, got 21 rebounds,
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first player in KU which has a story
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history in 25 years to do that but
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I just love college basketball simply because
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they have these
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great games at the beginning. They have these tournaments
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like the Jimmy V classic, the Maui Invitational,
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Phil Knight Invitational, Empire Classic and
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they put up the best teams against each other right away. They
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want to play these games because they want to see
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where their team is at. You don't see
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that in college football. The first four or five weeks are
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usually horrible. I mean they get in a tiny bit
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better. You saw how they played Notre Dame like
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third game, you saw text play Alabama but
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if you lose one game in college football
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you could be done for the year depending on what your
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schedule is. Maybe you know you
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don't play as many games where college it's right
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off the bat. Boom! Your place in Kentucky is Duke,
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Michigan State. You see all these great games and
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you know you just try out Tennessee is great this year. UConn
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is great again after win National Championship. Michigan,
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Purdue, Arizona. It's just it's really
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great to see all these teams get together. It's a rather great
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awesome games. Really cool competitive getting
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your face. It's just awesome awesome sport
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and looking forward to watching Kansas for the rest of the year
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even though they should have lost that game last night.
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That's like Kentucky playing bad the last three minutes they
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actually should have lost that game but they have a great bench, great
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team. They look really good. How
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to start the podcast off with Kansas. Come on guys you know.
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Now let's get to the bull markets. Since
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you really don't need me in bull markets just buy anything
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you gotta be fine but not really anything.
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I think the average stock price even after the
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rally in the past two days is still down. It was
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down 6% I think as of last week so
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you might think everything is going up
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everything's going up right now especially past two days but
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it's still been a difficult year for a lot of investors
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unless you own the top five six stocks that
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continue to go higher and higher those are five largest technology
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stocks where Apple and Microsoft now count
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for 15 16% of
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the entire S&P 500. We all
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hear about the 25% or 30% for the top 10, I think it's the top 5 or 6 of
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them, including
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Tesla, account for, and Nvidia account
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for. What is it? 25% or 23% of
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the entire index. So,
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you know, it's really heavily weighted. But
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right now, it's a bull market again. Buy
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everything.
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We're all okay. Nothing to see here. We
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had the CPI come out on Tuesday. Should
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inflation moderating? Better
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number than expected. And we had a rip
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your face off rally. I love when people say, rip
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your face off. That's going to be the word that actually, that's
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going to be the phrase of this podcast, rip your face
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off, rip your face off rally. And
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then what do we have today? The producer price index
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came out. estimates
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call for a gain of 0.1%. I
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know it's a producer price index. Nobody really pays attention
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unless you know you're really into the markets. That's
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a wholesale prices, but it's a big deal
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because it fell a
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half a percent. When
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estimates call for a gain of 0.1%. So
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it turns out that's the biggest monthly drop in wholesale
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price since early 2020. Huge.
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So we have this push
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lower in rates, which is good, right? They
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fell sharply and that's good for equities,
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which at least I think that's good for stocks,
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I'm not sure what's good for equities and what's bad for equities
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anymore. I should say, I don't know what's bad for equities anymore. Watch
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a 10 year ago from 3.8% to start the year to 5% and stocks retire. If
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we look at all the data that comes out, whatever
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it is, it's always going to be good for equities. Higher
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rates, low rates, markets go higher. Earnings
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growth, no earnings growth. Stocks go
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higher this year. Slower
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CPI, slower PPI, which indicates an
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economy that is slowing. That's great
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for equities too. Wars, no wars,
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great for stocks. The
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hell you have Biden meeting President Xi if he punched him
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in the face and said, hey, we're taking over Taiwan. That's going
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to be great for stocks. Of
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course, if Biden did that. If you punched anything,
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I'm probably like watching a turtle move in slow motion.
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Probably take 20 seconds to get there. I
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mean, it's getting progressively worse, right? I mean, whenever
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I see it on camera, it's sad to say, I mean, this is the
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leader of our nation. Uh,
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yeah, it's just, it's just painful. It's painful,
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but unfortunately it looks like we're going to be stuck with Trump
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or Biden, one of the others. So good luck
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with that, especially if you're watching anything in
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the media because, you know, we're going to hate each other forever.
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Uh, can't be friends at all. So that should
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be interesting. But don't lie to you, I'm looking
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at these markets, uh, we're
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coming off incredibly oversold conditions from
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about a month ago. And we have
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seasonality in our favorites. Seasonality is
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serious. You can't just look at different figures and say,
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okay, well interest rates are much higher this season or the
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seasonality, what that means. And we talked about this
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last week, right? Um, why
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I'm bearish on the overall markets, but we're going to see a strong
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rally into the end of the year. And we've been
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saying that for the past couple of weeks.
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Uh,
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when you see this
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seasonality and especially
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this year when so many money
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managers are underperforming, they're underperforming because
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if you didn't have six or seven stocks, you're
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significantly underperforming your benchmark and
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you want to play catch up, which is called alpha. You need to
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generate alpha and it's all about your benchmark.
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It doesn't matter if you're down 20%, the mark's down 20% and
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you're down 18%, you beat your benchmark. Especially
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if you're up, you're going to get bonuses, you're going to keep your job. But if
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you go two years, three years and you don't beat your benchmark,
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you better look out because there's 20 people right behind you that take
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your job. So, you know, they're fighting
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for this. And also seasonality
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is you're seeing tax loss selling. Going to get to
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target later. You wonder why target went down to 100, 102. I
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mean, even if you're looking at funds that cover retailers, especially
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their competitors, look at where Walmart
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is, look at where Costco is and how great those stocks
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did where targets down tremendously. So what
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are you going to do? Well, I'm going to sell target and take the tax losses.
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And that's why you see a lot of names that got punished go down
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even further towards
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the end of the year. And
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a lot of the names that have been doing well go a lot higher.
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And we took the time of Wall Street Unplugged Premium
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last week. This is on
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went over 25, 30 stocks to buy
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into year's end. And
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these are momentum names that we
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said are likely to surge over the next few weeks. And
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this is because portfolio managers are shifting their allocations.
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They need to generate that alpha and with
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that seasonality and still being a little
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oversold at least before this week,
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it made sense to get into a lot of these names that
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are continuing to move higher and higher
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and higher. And we really nailed that. I mean
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crypto, we're really big on uranium, which has been
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on fire. And by the way, real
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quick guys, I'm interviewing Amir Adnani,
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right? He's CEO of founder
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of Uranium Energy UEC. It's
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sitting at a 52 week high. I interviewed
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Amir, he's a very close friend, in January. And
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I say very close friend, I've known him for longer than 10 years. Back
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then he told us Iranian prices were about to double. He's
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always been of course very high in
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Iranian prices and he should be because the
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industry was just ripe for prices to go higher. But
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he said Iranian prices were about to double. I
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don't think he said that often. He says, well,
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prices are going to go higher but he said they're about to double. They'll
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be trading at $31 a pound then. There's $74 a pound today by his call.
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Amir is one of the smartest minds in the world when it comes
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to this sector. He founded UEC
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in 2005, travels across the world, relationships with presidents,
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prime ministers, and even the
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former Secretary of Energy, right? Spencer Abraham
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is the chairman of UEC. So
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the context that he has and just I talk
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to him when he's on the road and just seeing him
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work, it really
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goes to the credibility
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of a person like this who's been in an industry
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that's been shit since before. Since
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Fukushima. I mean you talk
10:55
about this drag and even though the last
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four or five years, you've seen the
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fundamentals change or it makes sense. It's just been this
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whole thing. Well, clean energy and nobody likes
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uranium, right? Nobody likes nuclear, right? Everyone's
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like it's dangerous. And now you're seeing that
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change a lot. You're seeing people saying, okay, when
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it hits your pockets and even with corporations
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when they realize they can't make money, you're seeing clean
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energy stocks get annihilated now because they just can't make money.
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Now you're seeing, well, we're sitting here with something
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that's absolutely perfect. We have an
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abundant supply. We have a massive amount of supply
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in the US, massive, massive amounts. Guys,
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I don't know if you know this, but oil
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companies in the 70s, they used to
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be the biggest producers of uranium before
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they basically outlawed it. So they know what all
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the uranium is. We could produce the hell out of it.
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But we've always said, hey, you know what? Let's just
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rely on Russia. Agustan,
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let's go import it. And
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you're seeing over the years where electricity,
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for electricity generation, supply and demand and balance
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was insane where they had to lock in these contracts.
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And we've always wondered where prices
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were going to go, right? How come they haven't gone higher?
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The interview is going to be great. We'll cover
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in details of the supply demand again for uranium, which suggests
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prices are likely going much higher from here. This
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isn't just like, hey, we're going to 75 in a quick
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blip. I mean even at 75, they're depressed. I
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mean I never thought we'd see 35, 40, 50 and they'd stay at
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those levels. But now it makes sense where you're going to
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see actually US companies and companies
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right off start producing, actively producing.
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Because this is a product that probably costs 55,
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60 to produce, a little bit lower in some areas, but
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on average, now it makes sense. Especially
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if you lock it in, future contracts,
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higher value where it makes sense that you could actually
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start producing this, not just sitting on the supply.
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I mean you want to buy gold when no one's
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really producing gold because you're going to get in the ground for like $7 an ounce.
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It takes a fortune to produce it,
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unlike uranium. It's not as expensive. But
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then once you do and prices go higher, now that's
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worth $23 in a ground or
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you get some of the big guys that come over and produce it, but you guys know
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what I mean. So Amir, through this whole
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terrible bear market, has been just
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acquiring assets, acquiring assets for you to see, acquiring
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assets, getting bigger exposure, improving
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his relationships with industry leaders
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all over the world, getting involved in politics. And just
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seeing someone work so hard in the industry
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that's been so crappy, it's just a testament to
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his dedication.
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But he's going to talk about these trends, including
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what countries are ramping up capacity, and
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more importantly, I'm going to ask
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him what specifically changed about this market.
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Because I mentioned, the past five years,
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that supply, demand, and balance was
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pretty much the same as
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it is today. And it's – I
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hear Rick Rule in my ear saying that the cure
13:38
for higher prices is higher prices. And
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saying that, you know, uranium prices have
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no place else to go but up. But what
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has changed specifically this year,
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when now you're seeing – I don't know if it's political
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or whatever. Again, I didn't do the interview yet. I didn't do the interview.
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But I'm curious to see what has changed
13:56
this year to make this spike happen, because I thought
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this spike – a lot of people thought this spike would happen. It's happened
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a year ago, two years ago, three years ago and it hasn't. So
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we're going to cover a lot. It's
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going to be a nice interview
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and I'm going to send this to you next week, some interview
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in a couple of days. And next
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week we're going to be closed for Thanksgiving. Plus
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I'm taking a much needed vacation with my family. I'm
14:16
going to go to the Dominican Republic. It's
14:18
been stressful with the house as you guys know. You guys
14:20
know everything about my life. It's so weird when I talk to subscribers or
14:23
Curzio One members who I talk to a lot, even
14:25
shareholders and stuff of our
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token. They're
14:29
just like, oh, how's your house doing? I've never
14:31
talked to them before. You kind of just say
14:34
everything and everything just comes with a cough here. But
14:37
you guys know pretty much everything about my life. I just leave everything
14:39
out there and very open. So yeah,
14:42
stressful with the house. Kids just made their soccer
14:44
basketball team, so we're driving all over the planet and everything.
14:47
I explained that. It made fun of it on last week's podcast.
14:50
Just work and everything, right? So we're looking forward to just hanging out
14:52
with my family, relaxing for Thanksgiving. I'm
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going to publish this interview on iTunes. Also
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send a direct link to all the Curzio
14:59
Research members and podcast listeners. Definitely
15:01
a must listen to. We've been involved in Uranium
15:03
and Dollar Stock Club. We have lots of good plays in there. I've
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heard of one of my favorite plays, Encore Energy, which is
15:09
also at a 52-week height, Surged. Uranium
15:11
is a place to be. It's not just like, hey, it's
15:13
cyclical. Oil is good. And then when other stocks
15:15
are good, then oil is not that good. And back and forth,
15:18
I mean this is something where you have the fundamentals behind it. You
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have the momentum behind it.
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And
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I'm not going to say that the easy gains
15:25
have not already been made.
15:29
I mean we are probably in the second to third inning of this.
15:31
We have a long way to go before we see really
15:33
this sector develop and go forward.
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So that interview is really, really cool. Definitely a must
15:38
listen to. You're going to see me do a lot more interviews.
15:41
We took a break from interviews just for a little while. You know,
15:43
kept it simple. But a lot of people I just want
15:45
to copy I'm going to reach out to. Just
15:49
have a lot of CEOs reaching out, a lot
15:52
of industry specialists that I think are going to help you tremendously.
15:55
I never have like financial planners on this show, right? That
15:57
doesn't make sense. I don't have – people
16:00
that aren't going to help you. I'm
16:04
not being selfish here. I think I know my audience but my audience is... I think
16:06
you guys are kind of like me. I want to be educated. I want
16:08
to hear a different opinion. I want to have an open dialogue. If
16:11
I disagree with you, I'm not going to be an asshole to you. Seeing
16:14
some of these people that want to have interviews, I
16:16
really think that they're
16:18
going to be really good. It's going to benefit you. It's
16:21
going to educate us all. I like
16:23
having interviews where people have a different opinion than me. I
16:25
think that's where you learn the most and be respectful about
16:27
it. But really, really cool
16:29
interviews coming up and starting to book a lot of them. So
16:32
expect those through December
16:34
and into next year. So I'm very excited about
16:36
those. But I am taking off next
16:38
week. So guys, for Thanksgiving
16:41
and that... A mere
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interview I'm going to publish early next week so you guys
16:46
will listen to. Definitely must listen to. So
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let's get back to the markets. I
16:52
will say when I look
16:54
at the markets here, in
16:57
the past four weeks, and I
16:59
think you got to get used to this, we've seen a market go
17:02
to incredibly oversold
17:04
to now overbought. And we highlight it like a lot of the sentiment
17:06
indicators, contrarian indicators that
17:09
was saying that the market should be coming down, should
17:11
be coming down, it came down. And then we really sold
17:13
off very quickly. You got to get used to these moves because
17:16
right now we're overbought. Not
17:19
at extreme, super extreme levels. I
17:21
think we still go higher into the end of the year. But we
17:25
are getting to overbought conditions now because
17:27
we've seen massive rallies. I mean 5% rally
17:30
in the Russell alone. When
17:33
have we seen the Russell outperform? It's
17:37
outperforming the NASDAQ. Nothing outperforms NASDAQ.
17:40
So it's outperforming the NASDAQ. Even
17:42
today when you look at stocks, we're up whatever,
17:45
I mean, it's down 25% as I'm doing this in mid-day. It's
17:48
outperforming 3-1 the Russell, small
17:50
caps. Why? Because they've been down significantly.
17:53
They're still down right now 25%
17:55
from their highs. The S&P 500
17:57
is down 5% from their all-time highs. sector
18:00
that's been annihilated.
18:04
Looking into 2024, I mean,
18:07
guys, let me put it to you this way. Okay,
18:09
because if you go into 2024, when you watch
18:12
in TV, I'll go over that in a second, everyone's like, just like, Hey,
18:14
the market's going higher. It's great. It's great. It's going higher
18:16
and higher and higher.
18:18
If we go back to March, 2022, this
18:20
is right when the Fed started raising rates. And I actually,
18:23
where do you think the markets will be today? And before
18:25
you answer that, I said, but hold up. Okay.
18:28
I told you. These are the conditions that
18:30
are going to happen. The Fed is about to raise rates from 0.25%
18:32
to 5.5%. The
18:35
highest rate in over two decades, the fastest
18:38
rate hiking cycle in the history of the Fed. I
18:41
told you that mortgage rates are more than double from 3.8% to 7.5%. That's
18:45
the highest rate since 2000. I told
18:47
you that inflation would surge to a new record and
18:49
even now still, still be twice
18:52
as high as our normal rate. Look
18:55
at the cost, 0.4%, right? Double Feds target.
18:58
And I told you over this time period
19:01
that we're going to see relatively no
19:03
growth in earnings or sales in the S&P 500 until today. Would
19:08
you say the S&P 500 would be higher or lower? Because
19:11
based on those conditions of UXB, and I was really
19:13
honest, I'd say the market has to come down at least 20%. We're
19:17
up 5% the S&P. 5% higher
19:20
than in March, 2022, when the
19:23
Fed started going crazy and
19:26
raising rates. So
19:28
think about that. What would happen if the Fed didn't raise rates? Would
19:30
it be at 7,000 on the S&P 500? I
19:32
mean, where would inflation be? It's crazy when you
19:34
think about it. What if we did nothing? Okay, inflation goes
19:37
higher. Where would the markets
19:39
be? Look at what we did. I mean, this
19:41
is significant. These are significant
19:43
moves. I mean, when you see no
19:45
interest rates, you look at credit
19:47
tightening, you're seeing the effect of interest rates
19:50
all around. People can tell you the economy is doing good. Just listen
19:52
to these calls. A lot of these companies are beating.
19:54
They're not seeing earnings growth year over year. A little
19:56
bit for the first time this year, they saw
19:58
it.
19:59
Some companies, most companies aren't. They've seen
20:02
sales decline year over year, but why their earnings
20:04
go a bit well, cost cutting and finding ways to
20:07
get rid of employees and things like that and tighten
20:09
up where margins are a little bit higher,
20:15
but man, it's crazy out
20:17
there because
20:20
I know right now, if you're watching CNBC or Fox
20:22
Business News or whatever you watch
20:24
on Bloomberg, I'm not picking on these guys, I watch all those shows and I've
20:26
been on all these shows. It's like a circle
20:29
jerk of analysts talking about how freaking
20:31
bullish they are, how the market's back,
20:34
trillions are going to start flowing back into equities from
20:36
bonds, you got to get back in it, I told you, this is
20:38
it, this is the bull market, we're going higher and higher
20:40
and higher. If you're
20:42
watching TV, that's what they're saying. Believe me, I'm watching it, it's
20:44
my job to watch this stuff. That's the status
20:46
quo, that's what I'm looking to
20:49
discredit because if I can, on the positive
20:51
or the negative, I'm going to be able to make
20:53
money on stocks and
20:55
give you guys great ideas. If the market's priced against
20:58
something, then I think they should be pricing in the right
21:00
way, I'm going to say, hey, this is what we should do. And
21:04
you do that by understanding, that's like the consensus
21:07
estimates. If you think they're going to come in light, you should be shorting
21:09
a stock. If you think, hey, these analysts are
21:12
conservative, you should be buying the stock, meaning earnings are going to
21:14
go a lot higher. Look at Target, blow out the numbers.
21:17
Earnings were conservative. If you think
21:19
that was going to happen, look at targets up 18% today. We'll
21:21
cover that in a second. So
21:24
just remember, the guys that you're watching on TV
21:27
right now, don't make fun of
21:29
me with the circle jerk, you guys know what I mean. The
21:31
guys you're watching on TV right now, just remember 30
21:34
days ago when stocks were getting crushed, these
21:36
are the same people telling you that
21:38
you should buy bonds, the market's dangerous, it's
21:40
headed lower.
21:42
The same people 30 days ago
21:45
just switched from everything is perfectly fine
21:48
to
21:50
back then where it's like, holy shit, you got to watch
21:53
out in one month. When really what has changed?
21:55
It's really just seasonality. This is trading.
21:59
And we live in this. this reaction every world, everyone
22:01
wants to play Monday morning quarterback.
22:04
Man, listen to Steve Leeson, said, if
22:06
I was a Fed, I would do this. And just list
22:08
the five or six different economists. You're the
22:10
Fed, I don't understand. They should do it. What don't you understand?
22:13
I mean, I've been critical of the Fed, Dale more
22:15
than me. But man, you got to give the Fed
22:17
its dues. I
22:19
mean, if you had said that the Fed's going to raise rates incredibly
22:22
the way they have, and they're going to be at this level, and
22:25
you're going to tell me it doesn't result in a market crash,
22:28
and we still have low unemployment. I
22:33
mean, what has the Fed done wrong? Don't
22:35
get me wrong. You say, well, the balances and
22:38
the debt levels and a lot of politicians
22:41
and stuff like that, again, there's millions of ways
22:43
you can criticize the Fed. But when I see economists go on and
22:45
say, this is what I would do, not one of them would
22:48
have raised rates to this level. I
22:50
mean, we were talking about, even now they're talking about, why there's
22:52
no way that they're raising anymore and they're pricing rate
22:54
cuts for later on. They're not going to be rate cuts, guys, unless
22:56
you see a market collapse, they're not cutting rates with 2%
22:59
of target. It's 4%. I
23:02
mean, they're not going to cut rates. It's crazy because the biggest
23:04
mistake the Fed ever made in the history
23:06
of that institution was
23:09
in the eighties. We know that. Massive
23:12
inflation. They thought that had a contain and they were wrong.
23:14
They can't make that mistake again. It doesn't make
23:16
sense for them to lower rates. If the economy
23:18
is doing the job by itself, just leave
23:21
it until you don't have to. Why lower rates? Why
23:23
take the chance when you're getting the result you want? You
23:26
could always lower rates whenever, but it just common
23:28
sense makes sense. And you're going to see Powell
23:31
come out and talk hawkish. That's his job.
23:33
He's going to come out and talk hawkish. He
23:37
doesn't want to say, hey, you know, everything's great. And we get the
23:39
rip your face off rally to go even further. That's
23:42
not his job. He's going to say, look, we'll get it data dependent
23:44
and we'll put the markets doing your job. You don't have to do anything
23:46
right now. Why even push that issue? Why even
23:48
there's, from a risk reward standpoint for the
23:50
Fed, one, it's a credibility issue because you say you're
23:53
going to wait till you get down to 2%. We're not even close. We're
23:56
not even close, guys. At 4%, we're still, you
23:59
know, I've explained this that if you take
24:01
out the last two years, 9% to 4% is great. It's amazing. At 4%
24:05
annual inflation, which we're on the core, CPI, for
24:07
inflation. By the way, we're a lot freaking higher than that. If you
24:09
really look at the data and some of the shit that was in the data,
24:12
and declines in oil,
24:15
heating oil, and so it's just, you know, it's
24:17
crazy. We're all paying higher prices, right? We're all paying high prices.
24:19
I didn't see the price of anything get lower, right? I'm not
24:21
going to Starbucks for the kids in the morning and seeing prices
24:23
go lower now. I'm not shopping
24:26
and seeing prices and going, holy shit, man, look how much? You're
24:28
going to win Chipotle and you're like, wow, wow, so much cheaper. Nobody
24:31
in the world is seeing that. Nobody in the world. Maybe in Japan,
24:34
that's it.
24:37
But at 4%, guys, I mean, it's still the highest
24:40
annual inflation that we've seen since 1991
24:42
if we take out the past two years. So the thing that the
24:44
Fed is actually going to stop cutting is crazy.
24:47
And they've been talking about cutting, just to let
24:49
you know. This was in October 2022.
24:54
We were supposed to cut maybe first quarter
24:56
in 2023, the second quarter, back half. We're
24:58
going to cut pricing in 80% chance
25:00
of cuts and 70% chance of cuts and
25:03
we didn't cut once in 2023. And
25:05
we're not going to cut in 2024 unless we
25:07
have a meaningful, meaningful
25:09
correction in the markets, unless
25:12
we get inflation below 2% and we stay
25:14
at 2% for maybe 2-3 months in a row, which
25:16
I don't see happening.
25:23
So again, being reactionary and looking at things, everything
25:25
is great. We've got to get back into the market. We don't need to be concerned.
25:27
It's one month. Nothing has really changed because
25:31
I'm going to leave you with this. Right
25:34
now, we're currently cheering news
25:37
that the economy is slowing. Think
25:40
about that for a minute. A
25:42
slowing economy is not good for equities. We
25:46
have interest rates are still exceptionally high.
25:49
Credit is tightening. We're
25:51
seeing a layoff announcement still. City groups laying
25:53
off their employees. Every day we see laying off employees.
25:56
That's not the sign of a strong economy. People
25:58
are like, the economy is strong. It's resilient.
25:59
It's not strong.
26:01
We're seeing earnings grow. These companies are smart. They have
26:03
a lot of fat to trim. They've done a great
26:05
job of cutting costs. It's a reason why you're not
26:07
seeing sales grow year over year, but yet earnings
26:09
are earnings have been growing year over year, but still
26:12
they've been relatively solid at the
26:14
same levels they wore 18 months ago earnings.
26:17
And think about that. No earnings
26:20
growth in 18 months and yet markets
26:22
are 5% higher when we're used
26:24
to them growing 12% over the past three, four
26:26
years
26:27
annually.
26:31
In fact, you look at the PPI announcement today,
26:34
great number, great by showing wholesale prices
26:36
are slowing much more than expected.
26:39
So when you look at that, you may be thinking, well wholesale prices,
26:41
right? These are wholesale prices, which results
26:44
in, you know, that means that we
26:46
kept prices the same or charge a little bit more.
26:49
It could mean increased margins for retailers.
26:51
That's not the case. That doesn't happen. Okay.
26:55
Throughout history, throughout history, lower
26:57
wholesale prices and operating
26:59
margins almost always move in tandem.
27:01
They go up the same, they go down the same, but
27:04
margins were a lot higher. Even
27:07
during COVID. But
27:09
now you let, especially since 2020,
27:12
it's almost like identical. You got a 2015, 2011, go back and see it.
27:17
Low wholesale prices is not a good thing. It shows
27:19
that the economy is slowing. It shows that margins are going to
27:21
compress. That's what happens when
27:23
that's what happens. So
27:27
with sharing news that indicates
27:31
growth is slowing, what we
27:33
saw surprising today from yesterday, because
27:35
it said, hey, the rally is continuing. It's great. Well, what
27:37
happened yesterday? 10 year, 10 years
27:39
come down tremendously. But this
27:42
is really surprising to me because today, despite
27:45
that PPI, which is really, really
27:48
slow, I mean that's a big,
27:50
big number, like minus a half
27:53
percent compared to you expecting 0.1% growth.
27:59
You have a decline of 0.5%.
27:59
a big number.
28:01
But today I'm telling you, not yesterday. Today
28:04
the big slowdown in PPI, it didn't result in
28:06
interest rates declining. They're actually going
28:08
higher. The opposite is happening. Why
28:11
is that? Because that's not a good sign. You would think, okay,
28:13
now we've got more confirmation. More
28:15
confirmation of a solo economy. So rates are going to come down even
28:18
further. Why are they going higher?
28:21
I would have liked to see them go lower. That's a sign, hey, this
28:23
is going to continue maybe through December.
28:25
I don't know. But now that they're going higher on
28:27
this number. Also,
28:32
as I just mentioned, inflation at 4%, it's nothing
28:35
to cheer about. You could cheer because, hey,
28:37
with 9% we're going lower. Again, double the
28:39
Fed's target. Double
28:42
the Fed's target. And
28:45
people are calling for cuts. We're not going to cut. And
28:47
believe it or not, it's been July since we saw the
28:49
last rate hike. It seems like it was just recently rate
28:52
hiked up since July. We've had the Fed
28:54
say, hey, we're not done. We're not done. They're going to
28:56
continue to say that as long as the market's doing,
28:59
chugging along, seeing inflation
29:02
come down. Everyone's like, maybe inflation is transitory.
29:04
I wouldn't say inflation is transitory. Meaning
29:07
that it's temporary. Because it hasn't been too... If
29:09
two years is your new definition of temporary
29:12
and transitory, then, okay, fine, it's transitory.
29:15
Either transitory meant a couple months. That's
29:17
what Powell thought before he
29:19
raised rates by the fastest
29:22
pace in history of the Fed. You
29:24
can't be more wrong than that. So I
29:28
don't think the Fed's cutting anytime soon.
29:30
I mean, it won't. It has too much to risk in the
29:32
credibility side. Plus, not
29:35
just credibility, what happens if inflation
29:37
really starts surging after this? It just doesn't
29:40
make sense. Especially,
29:43
again, when the market's doing its job for the Fed. So
29:47
if you look at this, this translation of what I'm saying,
29:49
and that's to be so macro and blow the hell out of you here,
29:54
the Fed is likely
29:57
to stop hiking rates. We said this a couple months ago. All
29:59
right, just leave them. But
30:02
power is going to continue to have the hawkish tone and
30:04
we're nowhere close to the Fed lowing rates, which means they're
30:06
going to stay higher for longer throughout 2024, which
30:09
is this constant drag, this massive
30:11
drag on the economy. It's going to continue.
30:13
The conditions still exist today as they did a month ago, but
30:16
we are seeing inflation come down but interest rates
30:18
are going to be relatively high. Should we be higher than
30:21
we were in March 2022 when we started
30:23
this stuff? I don't think so. So
30:26
for, you know, you to watch TV right now
30:28
and they're like, hey, the bull market's back. You don't need
30:30
bonds. Just get old. Well, I just said
30:32
all that when I say bonds, I'm saying that, you know, again, bond
30:34
prices and rates move inversely,
30:37
but people like getting those rates and higher.
30:39
So instead of being conservative
30:41
and putting it in parking that money, it might come
30:43
out and go into equities
30:46
again. I think that's crazy at this
30:48
level. Even
30:51
Goldman Sachs came out with their forecast today for 2024. I
30:53
don't know if you saw it. We have access to this. So
30:55
I like to share this stuff. We're expecting just 5% returns
30:58
over that 12-month period in 2024. So
31:01
I want you to think about that, 5% returns. And
31:04
I like to see similar gains just parking your money in
31:07
one-month treasuries or
31:09
an Apple savings account risk-free. I mean it's
31:12
over 4%. But
31:15
Goldman is expecting these paltry returns
31:17
despite it
31:20
being an election year. And
31:23
we look at past election years, we see stocks,
31:26
equities, 8, 9% gains. They're
31:29
saying, no, hold on. It's a lot
31:31
different from what I'm hearing on TV. Well, I've got to go all
31:34
in. Okay, you're only expecting 5% in the next 12
31:36
months. That's it? You mean
31:38
to tell me instead of going the ups and downs
31:41
and waking up at night and seeing everything go crazy and rates
31:43
and certain things could break and, you know, maybe
31:45
we see a global meltdown and
31:47
because higher rates are crushing a lot of countries. Maybe
31:50
we see more wars, right? Who knows what's going on?
31:53
Craziness. I could just instead of dealing with all that
31:55
bullshit, I could just take my portfolio
31:58
and throw it in something that's going to generate 4-5%. right
32:00
now risk-free and I don't have to worry about it. This
32:04
is what Goldman Sachs is saying right now. So
32:09
short-term stay the course but
32:12
longer term be careful what you wish for. And
32:14
slower growth again while helping
32:16
to low inflation is also
32:18
going to result in weaker profits for companies at a time
32:21
when analysts are projecting
32:23
the consensus estimate for next year's earnings they're
32:25
projecting to surge by 12%.
32:30
Good luck with that
32:32
especially since you've done the majority of
32:34
your cost-cutting. I don't know
32:36
where they're gonna see this demand come from maybe certain pockets
32:38
it's not all companies I'm not telling you to sell the markets I'm telling
32:40
you to leave the markets. I'm telling
32:43
you better be selective with what stocks you pick.
32:46
So tomorrow's Washington Post premium podcast Dale
32:48
and I are gonna break down 13S which
32:50
just came out every quarter that's
32:53
the report money managers yeah and
32:55
hedge funds they file every quarter show
32:57
which stocks they own and are adding
32:59
to and have sold. Again
33:02
it's a little it's data that's you
33:05
know happened three months ago some of these things they might not
33:07
be in but there's investors like Warren Buffett lots
33:09
of value investors investors that have you
33:11
know that are not these high-frequency
33:13
funds going in and out of stock that they'll accumulate
33:16
positions and continue to accumulate but
33:18
you get lots of ideas and they only
33:21
cover this every single quarter. We get great ideas
33:23
not telling you to buy what these guys own but
33:26
they may decide to buy something that could fall 20% over
33:28
the next month or 15% you know
33:31
these guys are gonna come in and buy more so it gives you an opportunity
33:34
just you know put some of these stocks on your watch list
33:36
and keep an eye on them. But
33:39
a lot of names a lot of stuff to go over some
33:41
things I'm not used to saying some things that are pretty obvious
33:43
but we're gonna break them down all the hedge funds the biggest
33:45
names all the guys you could think of it's not just
33:48
Buffett what you know about an Ackman there's a lot of big
33:50
big huge funds out there
33:52
that that report file posts value
33:55
act you know
33:58
multi-billion dollar funds on the management and it's
34:00
significant, really moves the needle. So we're going to cover
34:02
that tomorrow. Also, we're going to break down Targa in more detail,
34:04
which is blow out the numbers. It's
34:07
trading 17% higher today, reported earnings
34:09
of $2.10. Expectations were
34:11
for $1.47. That's
34:15
a 42% increase or
34:18
better than what the analysts were expecting. I
34:21
mean, it's an insane beat, so much so
34:23
that with the stock up 18% today, it's
34:26
cheaper today than it was yesterday before
34:28
it reported, even though it's up. That's
34:30
how crazy that beat was, and
34:33
Target killed it. I mean, they say they're going to claim
34:35
sales fell year over year, though. Sales
34:38
have fallen for the entire S&P 500 year over year. And
34:43
the S&P 500 is up 17% year to date, while Target
34:45
was down 25% heading
34:48
into the quarter. As of yesterday, it
34:51
held the past 12 months, guys. Listen to this. The
34:53
past 12 months, Apple saw its sales and earnings
34:56
decline. Actually, I'm lying. Earnings
34:58
went up one penny. Over the past 12 months.
35:00
I think it went from $6.13 since the... So
35:03
basically, no growth in earnings and it declined
35:05
sales. Yet the company increased its
35:08
market cap this year by
35:11
nearly $1 trillion. $1 trillion.
35:16
It's trading at like 29 times forward earnings.
35:20
The 50% premium to the market when
35:22
you're not growing sales and earnings? Tesla.
35:26
You own Tesla margins, falling like a rock. They're
35:28
lowering prices like crazy. Earnings
35:30
to protect decline 25% year over year. That
35:33
number was $6 a share. It's now down to $320.
35:37
I mean, it came down to $4 and now a
35:39
little bit over $4. Now it's like $325. So
35:42
now they're projecting earnings to decline
35:45
year over year by 25% and
35:47
that stock is up 90% this year.
35:51
So please... And
35:54
people giving Target shit about, hey,
35:56
their sales are down a little bit, which by
35:58
the way, beat analyst S.
35:59
But
36:01
they're down to low single digits year over year where
36:03
most companies are the same except most companies went up
36:05
in value. But Target
36:07
was a clean beat. Earnings, margins,
36:10
inventory levels down, guidance was solid. And
36:13
Target is put in its bottom. You're not going to see
36:15
that stock ever hit the low 100s again.
36:18
Ever.
36:20
And even now when you look at Target where it
36:22
is, the stock is turning
36:25
at 15 times right now after this move, 15
36:27
times forward earnings. It's a 50% discount
36:29
to Walmart and Costco who are on deck
36:31
to report earnings. And for the first time, Walmart reports
36:33
to market Costco a couple weeks.
36:37
But what do we see in the last three quarters? We've
36:42
seen Target earnings were shit and then all of
36:44
a sudden you had Walmart and Costco beat them and they're like,
36:46
wow, they're killing it. Now Walmart,
36:49
you better produce great results. You're trading at 30 times
36:51
forward earnings. Costco's trading like at 37, 40 times
36:54
forward earnings. Those guys better
36:57
report good numbers because
37:00
that's an indication that not only is Target back, they're
37:02
starting to take market share, that market share that they lost,
37:04
especially during COVID. But
37:08
really happy to see this move, especially with Curzio Research
37:10
Advisory members. Target's one of our positions in that portfolio.
37:13
Really great quarter. We're going to break it down a lot further than
37:15
that. And finally, Dan and I are also going to talk about how Target's
37:18
rip your face off rally. I love that term. Rip
37:21
your face off rally relates to small caps
37:24
because the Russell 2000 surged 5% on Tuesday, 5%.
37:29
And today, significantly outperformed the S&P and NASDAQ
37:31
I mentioned earlier. By
37:33
three to one margin, I think it's up like 1.3% as I'm
37:36
doing this where everything else is around a half
37:38
percent, 0.4%. You
37:42
know, I've been pounding the table on small caps over
37:44
the past few months and why? And
37:47
a market that I'm like, why? You have to be careful how your
37:49
industry is economy. It could slow, which
37:51
usually results in bad news in small caps. The reason
37:53
why I've been pounding the table, not the whole Russell 2000, is
37:58
this sector, I've never seen
38:00
a better opportunity by some of these
38:03
names where they've gotten annihilated, especially
38:06
into this month because
38:08
of the tax law selling. So you're looking at
38:10
a 5% and then a 1%, say 1.5% rally, and the Russell
38:12
is still
38:15
down 25% from its highs.
38:18
That's how bad it's been. Why? Because everyone
38:20
and all the money managers are
38:22
just, have rushed into the biggest names.
38:25
Well, now, if you're trying to catch up, what
38:28
are you doing right now? At the end of the year, you want
38:30
to play catch up? Buy some of those small caps that
38:32
are down tremendously. We've seen small caps, names
38:34
that are down 60%, 70%, 80% from their highs that
38:38
reported good quarters. Insiders are buying.
38:41
They're announced buybacks. They're growing
38:43
earnings. I've been doing
38:45
this for 30 years and that's the part
38:48
of the market that I love small caps because you really have to dig
38:50
deep. I mean, everybody comes to these large caps, you
38:52
know so much about them. Small caps,
38:55
that's where you see the biggest disconnects. I haven't seen disconnects
38:57
like this in decades. So much so, you guys
38:59
know I put over $200,000 into one stock, another $50,000 into it. I
39:03
mean, I'm going very heavily into some
39:06
of these names that I really, really like. And
39:09
those one members to certain services know
39:11
what stocks they are. I'm not going to give those away for free.
39:14
But those are very big positions for me. Those
39:16
are positions that I normally don't do because
39:19
this is an opportunity not to generate one X or two X
39:21
returns. These things, some
39:23
of these names are down so much. I
39:25
mean, five X returns are possible. Three X
39:28
returns are possible. Some of these names could
39:30
triple and still be 20, 30% below their, what is
39:32
it? 2021 highs.
39:38
It's just a sector that's been forgotten, annihilated.
39:41
It's trading at a discount.
39:44
We haven't seen a discount like this to large caps in 20
39:46
to 25 years. That's
39:50
going to change in 2024. There's a lot
39:52
of these names that are going to do very, very well because
39:54
they priced in recession, they're down tremendously and
39:57
these names, you're not going to see those gains where, Oh, I can
39:59
hold. long-term you've seen a lot of these names. I mean the
40:01
name I put in $200,000 is already up 100%. I've
40:04
seen a lot of names up 30-40%. These
40:06
things are going to pop.
40:08
Like Target up 18-20%. That's why we're gonna
40:10
talk about more how Target relates to these
40:12
small caps because when everyone hates you and
40:15
they're so under-owned, once
40:18
that shifts and that sentiment shifts,
40:20
that's what you're gonna see. You don't need these things to report
40:23
great numbers. You need them to go from terrible to
40:25
less than terrible and you're gonna see 30-40-50%
40:27
gains from these levels. We're gonna
40:29
break down some of those stocks, give you some names, some plays
40:31
like we did last week, get all Wall Street Unplugged
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Premium, we'll go over all of that. So
40:36
look forward to that podcast tomorrow and
40:39
that's it for me. The great
40:41
stuff on deck, can we do Wall Street Unplugged Premium? If
40:44
you're not a premium member, then I will see you
40:47
again in two weeks and go on
40:49
a vacation with Thanksgiving with my family, giving
40:51
my staff the week off to do the same. And
40:54
by the way, I say the same thing every single year
40:57
at this time. Eat lots of turkey, stuffing,
40:59
if you're a vegetarian, eat freaking salad
41:01
or whatever you eat. Have some alcohol,
41:05
watch football, laugh a lot, enjoy
41:07
the family. Be thankful for everything
41:09
you have. We live in a world where I feel
41:12
like the younger generation,
41:14
I feel like we're the only country
41:17
that our schools teach our younger generation
41:20
to not like our country sometimes.
41:22
And that's really sick because that's not taught any
41:25
place or any country. And
41:28
you have to be thankful and you're thankful just
41:31
when you look what's going on around the world. You
41:33
have someone in Ukraine
41:35
that you haven't spoken to because of the war. I
41:39
mean looking at the conflict between Palestine
41:42
and Israel. It's
41:45
just, it's... You're
41:47
looking around what's going on and the things
41:49
that you have and to hang out with your family and
41:51
stuff like that and be able to watch football and laugh
41:54
and stuff like that. Guys, don't ever, ever, ever, ever
41:56
take that for granted. Seriously, don't. I'm not bullshitting.
41:58
Don't take that for granted. It's really,
42:01
really important and have fun for Thanksgiving.
42:03
Happy Thanksgiving to everyone.
42:06
Love you guys. Thanks so much
42:09
for listening and go Eagles. Take care.
42:12
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