0:13

Oh boy, I'm

0:17

Peter McNerney, like exciting

0:20

a beat intro. Yes, I'm Beth

0:22

Newell. I can't wait. I'm

0:25

so excited.

0:26

I feel good. I

0:29

took a nap today. You slept all

0:31

day. No I didn't. I

0:34

was hyperbolic, But you took

0:36

a took a major nap. It

0:38

was like an hour or two. It's it was

0:40

a major in the sense that I don't usually

0:42

take naps. I think it was more than two hours.

0:46

I'm not complaining. I was just worried that you

0:48

were something was wrong.

0:51

You woke up and you were all well rested. Well,

0:54

I well, okay. So the elephant in

0:56

the room, around the whole globe,

1:00

fin in the on the planet

1:02

is coronavirus, and so I,

1:05

as usual as a virgo, I like

1:08

to plan. So we're trying to start strong

1:10

with the positivity where our kids

1:12

are off school for two weeks um

1:15

and so I'm I'm just trying. I'm trying.

1:17

This is not normal, this is not this

1:20

seems so normal for where we are

1:22

right now. I know it's not necessarily

1:24

true for I don't know. I have country. I have

1:26

friends around the country, like I have friends in

1:28

l A and Richmond and

1:30

Pittsburgh, and like they are, they're

1:34

feeling the panics like more.

1:36

I feel like it's hitting the

1:38

the pressure to lockdown. I

1:40

feel like it's hitting other parts of the country

1:43

more quickly than here in terms

1:45

of how how fast the disease

1:47

got here, because we

1:49

knew that coronavirus

1:52

was hitting a town over for us for

1:54

days and they were kind of like barely

1:56

putting together a response. And now

1:59

I think people are starting around the country. You're starting to

2:01

realize this is an issue, and they're locking down,

2:04

maybe even before they kind of need to. I don't

2:06

like this is so unprecedented. I

2:08

don't know what the right answer

2:10

is in terms of our response. Yeah,

2:13

yeah, we're not everyone's everyone's

2:15

pretending to be an expert. Everyone

2:18

and an expert. I'm

2:20

guilty of this. I'm sure if you listen to the podcast, I probably

2:23

spoke last week with some authority about something

2:25

I had no authority. There's so many

2:27

like self ordained experts on the internet,

2:29

and also so little like

2:32

accurate information going out

2:34

in terms of what's happening, like especially

2:37

from our federal government. Um,

2:40

but I

2:43

I you know,

2:45

I got to dry cough. Are you Okay,

2:50

too soon. Not funny, not funny.

2:54

So let

2:56

me just drink some more whiskey as we're doing many

2:59

coping mechanisms. Um.

3:02

So I'm trying to enter this

3:04

two weeks of no school strong and just

3:07

like try to have

3:09

some healthy coping mechanisms, which was

3:11

I went for a jog today. We took the kids

3:13

on a nature walk, social

3:16

distancing, and then my body was like that's enough.

3:18

I need a long nap. Um

3:22

this three hour nap and these dry coughs.

3:25

Did you have coronavirus?

3:27

Oh okay, let's

3:29

not pretend that what just happened didn't

3:31

just happen, which is Beth had me stop.

3:35

I just had a little cop I had like a throat

3:38

tickle thing going on. Oh

3:40

that good thing. That's a symptom

3:42

of the pandemic that's hitting our symptom.

3:45

I don't I don't feel sick. But

3:48

I'll tell you one thing that is happening that I

3:51

I don't think. Um.

3:53

I so last week I was carrying

3:56

I had like a really bad day with the

3:58

kids. I can't remember which day, just getting

4:00

them home from school and may even that,

4:03

you know, sometimes they get tired and hungry and they

4:05

melt down on the way home, so I had to carry

4:07

Mayven inside. So she's on my

4:09

hip and her head is next to my head and she's

4:11

screaming, tantruming,

4:14

trying to get me to stop, and

4:18

she's screaming in my ear. And when I woke up

4:20

the next morning, I

4:22

had a little bit of blood, like dried

4:24

blood in my ear, and I

4:26

think she might have slightly like

4:29

ruptured my ear drum. No big

4:32

deal, um, but I

4:34

looked like I looked this up online and looked at

4:36

for reasons why her ear is bleeding, and that seemed

4:39

like the most plausible one. And

4:42

it's also one that doesn't really require

4:44

any treatment. So it seems like a really

4:46

dumb time to go to urgent care when there's like

4:49

infectious disease spreading around us.

4:51

So I'm trying to ignore it. But I do like

4:53

my ear does I feel

4:56

just like a tiny bit pressured,

4:59

if that makes sense. Yeah? Um,

5:01

and so yeah, so kids

5:04

are a nightmare and that's the lesson.

5:07

Um, well,

5:09

I hope it's to pop deer drum and

5:12

uh not not this disease.

5:14

It's definitely not this disease, isn't I

5:17

trust me? That I googled coronavirus

5:20

ear bleeding and that it's not

5:22

a thing. Um

5:25

um. So yes,

5:28

we are very close to New

5:32

Rochelle, which is locked down. Was

5:34

the first town is totally locked down, and

5:36

now our schools are locked down. Is it totally

5:38

locked They just did like a one mile radio. It's

5:40

not totally locked down, but all the schools and

5:43

all now all their their public

5:45

spaces. And I

5:49

think the response around here has been okay

5:52

so far. I mean, we don't know how bad it's going to get

5:54

in New York City, and that's concerning. But like

5:57

the fact that they canceled school for two weeks

6:00

I think is good. The fact that they waited until

6:02

after Friday to give us time

6:04

to finish up the week. I think given the situation,

6:06

what my concern is like, we

6:08

don't know how long this lockdown is going to last

6:11

and what is going to be necessary and this I

6:13

feel like this coronavirus situation

6:15

might go on from Hanson months, so like, I

6:18

don't I don't think you want to pull the trigger

6:20

too soon on this, but it's like it's so

6:22

hard to tell with all the weird information.

6:24

Well, I mean, what's clear at

6:26

this point, you know, it's the great danger

6:29

is that everyone too many people get sick too

6:31

quickly in it overwhelms the health care

6:33

system. I know. And then

6:35

I saw something

6:37

online today that was like trying to debunk

6:39

that theory and say that that's

6:41

not good. I don't I didn't have time to read

6:43

it, and then I lost it. And well,

6:45

this is every conversation is somebody

6:48

sees something like that and then they're like, I saw

6:50

a thing that but I don't know, and

6:53

so we're all well. And then sometimes

6:56

I understand like people who are like, it's

6:58

just a flu, it's nothing, like, that's wrong. You

7:01

should we should be taking this seriously and we should

7:03

be social distancing. But then sometimes I

7:05

think people put stuff out to try to calm people

7:07

down, and then other people are like, no, you

7:09

can't be calm. Yeah, everyone has to be panicked.

7:11

It's like there's a there's just like a lot of stuff flying

7:14

around out there where I think you

7:16

should stand for him, go to the CDC website,

7:19

stuff like that, but you should try to

7:21

stay offline right now because I think it's

7:23

just like a there's a lot of fearmongering.

7:26

You should be prepared and vigilant

7:28

and on top of that positive. Yeah

7:32

it is. That's take care of your mental health

7:34

right now while we're in this very uncertain

7:37

be smart, but yes,

7:39

don't don't kill yourself. Don't

7:42

go don't kill yourself. Okay,

7:45

uh, rate up, follow

7:48

the rules, be safe, stay away from each other, and

7:50

lock it down and then enjoy

7:52

it. I am taking our

7:54

children um away

7:56

from here to a to a

8:00

family member's house that's totally empty

8:02

right now, away from everybody,

8:04

because a few hours away. Just

8:06

for anyone's who's concerned that we are spreading

8:09

disease from our the center

8:11

of disease, we

8:14

are. We have

8:16

socially isolated now for a

8:18

day or two. I think we're okay, you're going to

8:20

try not to you're taking the kids,

8:23

Oh yes, for the record, I'm taking them directly

8:26

to a house and literally not stopping until

8:28

we get there and ordering

8:30

groceries. So we're not spreading

8:32

If we're going to try it, yeah,

8:36

I don't. Personally, I don't think we have it

8:39

right now. I know it could be incubating, and

8:41

that's been my fear all along, because our

8:43

children are disgusting and lick

8:46

everything, and we're in a huge freaking

8:49

hotspot right now. But

8:51

I don't think so far. Knock

8:53

on what I don't think we have it? Um,

8:56

but my parents were supposed to come this past weekend, the

8:58

story part it's benefit. It was

9:01

postponed to name my parents

9:03

were to come, and uh,

9:05

actually it was my little brother. It was like,

9:08

you, guys, you can't come. You shouldn't, you

9:10

know, and they're they're older, they're anymore.

9:13

Your little brother has a baby too. Well,

9:16

I guess he's worried about your parents. No, no, yeah, we're

9:18

all of my brothers and I are all reading statistics.

9:21

We know that we are low risk, but

9:23

our parents are older and they're higher

9:25

risks. We said, they put they

9:27

put your parents are healthy. I did

9:30

read today that people there's

9:32

like a list of things that put you at risk,

9:34

and it said people with endocrine

9:37

issues are more at risk, which

9:39

is like not great news

9:41

for me because of my thyroid issues.

9:43

What. Um, but I don't like,

9:46

I don't really know what that means. You know, I

9:48

didn't get more information on

9:50

that little

9:53

little Uh yeah, I don't know. Ill.

9:56

I've probably said this before, but I don't fear

9:58

death. Um, I thing, I don't

10:00

think you've ever said that. Well, I

10:03

personally, I believe there's

10:05

an afterlife, and I believe in

10:07

reincarnation, and I think that

10:10

the world that we currently live in is

10:13

much more of a pressure cooker painful

10:15

situation than we will ever experience

10:17

on the other side. And if

10:20

I'm taken from here, my concern is for you

10:22

guys, but not for

10:24

me. Boy. You know what, It is so

10:27

funny because I don't believe any of

10:29

that. But I have a similar attitude

10:32

where I mean,

10:35

it's easy to say when you're healthy and

10:37

relatively young to say, like, I don't fear

10:39

death, but I don't bother

10:42

worrying about it. Um, I'm

10:44

a very like you know, you die and there's nothing type

10:47

of attitude. So the conclusion

10:50

is there's nothing I can do about it. Let

10:52

me enjoy being here and and

10:54

part of that is loving the people I'm around

10:56

and making them happy. I also, like,

11:00

because I'm, you know, a

11:02

crazy person and

11:04

I'm into manifesting

11:07

type stuff, I don't I just don't think it's a good

11:09

idea to like feed the fear in these situations.

11:12

And I think we should be realistic and

11:14

like, I don't not believe in science.

11:17

I know this is disease is real and

11:19

people will die from it, so we should

11:21

try to be careful about spreading it. But prepared

11:24

and positive. Yeah, prepared

11:26

and positive, guys, Be prepared and be

11:28

positive and take care of yourselves.

11:30

I really do think like, especially

11:33

as a parent, we've kind of,

11:37

um unwillingly been subjected

11:39

to a lot of social isolation in the last

11:42

two years, and I do think we're like more

11:44

prepared for this than other people, Like

11:47

because we're lonely, is that what you're saying. No, just

11:49

because we've had to develop a lot of coping mechanisms

11:51

for the fact that, like we we can't

11:54

commute into the city to hang out

11:56

all the time and like do whatever

11:58

we want, and sometimes we don't get to leave

12:00

the house for days, and we

12:02

you know, like I like I

12:05

in a way, I sort of feel

12:08

like we've been preparing for this. We're

12:12

we're you are an introvert

12:14

and I'm a secret introvert, and that

12:16

we we get sick of people quickly

12:19

and want to be by ourselves. So yeah,

12:21

I also like, prior to this, I

12:23

was already feeling pretty overloaded with

12:26

the world and my workload and all this stuff,

12:28

and that stuff is kind of still there, but it's kind of

12:30

nice to

12:32

be in a place where everyone is like overloaded

12:35

and like confused about what's happening. And I'm

12:37

like, this is our careers

12:39

as entertainers. This is this question

12:41

mark of what's next has been there all along,

12:44

and it's like sort of refreshing that like, now we're all

12:46

in this place of like what's going to happen? Not

12:49

to I totally relate

12:53

to what you're saying, not to

12:55

downplay the people

12:57

that are now suddenly in

12:59

a very are your real tricky

13:01

financial situation. Like we

13:03

have a lot of friends who have a gig

13:06

based work that suddenly he's just

13:08

super dried up. Um,

13:11

you know I work where the Magnet

13:13

Theater where I work, Yeah, it

13:15

shuts out for two weeks, no ticket sales, no classes,

13:18

and that's a huge challenge.

13:21

It's a good time to check in on people, like

13:23

your elderly neighbors and see if you can go

13:25

like pick up their prescriptions for them, or

13:28

if you have like friends who

13:31

our stay at home parents or whatever they

13:34

need groceres. Like it's just a good time to

13:36

check in with people if they're if they're gig

13:38

economy, revenue has dried up. If you can

13:40

send them some groceries, if

13:42

you have the ability to do that kind of

13:44

thing, it's a good idea. Yeah.

13:46

And if you have people that you pay for

13:49

for things that you're canceling, maybe

13:51

pay them anyway. Yeah,

13:53

we're talking about canceling our cleaning

13:55

lady for this week and just paying her. Um,

13:59

we have I have to figure how to do that. I like, our

14:01

cleaning lady showed up this week

14:04

on a day that was not her day of the week to

14:07

clean and not her week that she usually

14:09

comes because she comes every other week. And I

14:12

like, in the midst of all this Corona stuff, I was

14:14

like, is she okay? Like, is

14:16

everyone okay? What is happening?

14:19

Um, it's been just very surreal

14:21

around here. Oh boy, oh

14:24

boy. Yeah,

14:26

and we've been oh boy,

14:28

it is It's crazy.

14:31

You know what? Despite

14:33

all that, Like, yeah, you know what, stay positive, Let's

14:35

just take a second ago. This is

14:38

one of the this is uh

14:40

one of the craziest things I have,

14:43

um in my life. I have

14:45

a yoga teacher that I don't actually see

14:47

her very much in person, but she was a prenatal

14:49

yoga teacher. I had and then we've like I just I

14:52

stay in touch with her on Facebook um

14:54

because she's also like a small business owner. She

14:57

now has her own yoga studio and teaches meditation

14:59

and and like she

15:02

she was one of the people in our community that

15:05

was like the quickest to like

15:08

sort of sound the alarm bells and be like this

15:10

is bad, Like we should we need to start doing stuff

15:12

about this. And she was like first she was

15:14

like disinfecting her business like crazy. And

15:16

then a couple of days and she was like, you know what, we

15:19

just need to shut this down into remote classes because

15:21

we don't know what's happening. This disease is very close.

15:23

Her son goes to school in New

15:25

Rochelle where the virus

15:27

is sitting, and like and every

15:30

like she would post on Facebook a lot, and so

15:32

many people were treating her like a crazy

15:34

person and like she you

15:36

know, like like one of her meditation

15:38

students threatened to sue her

15:41

for not hosting the meditation class in person.

15:44

It's like, I think right now, what

15:46

I've seen, especially even before this with

15:48

the election, there's a lot of

15:50

people arguing for things

15:52

that I do think they

15:55

need, like things like healthcare. I understand

15:58

people are very in need right now. But

16:00

I think what you have to understand about people right now

16:03

is that are the state of

16:05

our country has made them so traumatized

16:08

that they're not always in

16:10

the right mind in their reactions

16:13

two things, you know what I mean, Like people are

16:15

just like people

16:18

are losing it and it's but it's not their fault.

16:20

It's not their fault that like, there's so many

16:22

pressures on them with the gig economy and the

16:24

lack of health insurance and a lack of mental health

16:26

care and like a

16:29

lack of ability to pay their bills. I

16:31

just blame everything on social media for

16:34

making and taking taking

16:36

all of the not not to undercut what you're

16:38

saying, but in the midst of all

16:40

of that, then giving you, on

16:44

top of all of that perfectly legitimate

16:46

stuff you just said, fourteen unnecessary,

16:49

vague things to worry about. I

16:51

don't think social media is always great, but

16:54

I don't necessarily think that's like the root

16:56

of the problem, just exacerbates

16:58

all everything. Before we have social media,

17:00

people were suffering. Sure,

17:04

sure, you just didn't have to see it, you

17:07

know, yeah, well yeah,

17:10

oh boy. Anyway, what was good

17:12

did happened this week. Good that happened

17:14

this way. We got into our new house. We

17:17

did. We were able to go in and start planning some

17:19

renovations, which is great. Measurements

17:22

taken. Things are moving

17:25

along. I think it's actually going

17:27

to happen. Do you know what's crazy?

17:29

I didn't tell you this. So

17:33

I shot a commercial this week and

17:36

when I was on set, I met this older

17:39

woman. I told her where I was

17:41

moving. Uh, and she

17:43

and she's like, oh, I grew up like

17:46

three blocks from there, like my family's

17:49

house was there. I lived there

17:51

forever and then she just sold it like

17:55

a year ago, and then moved

17:57

to an artist loft a block

18:00

from the Magnet Theater where I

18:02

work. Wow, and we really

18:04

connected. That's great.

18:06

What does that mean? It's a sign?

18:09

I know, But of what that this

18:11

woman and I are pet ships

18:13

in the night. There's

18:16

just I don't know. I

18:18

think there's a lot of signs happening for

18:20

me personally lately. Was

18:22

the dumbest one the dumbest sign

18:27

mm hm,

18:31

oh well this is okay, this is actually

18:34

really funny. So I had a

18:36

doctor's appointment and I came out and

18:38

we were kind of like me and the doctor.

18:40

We're talking about like kind of how much better

18:43

I'm doing since I started seeing this doctor,

18:45

and I was feeling good about the steps

18:47

I'd taken for my health. And

18:50

then I got in the car and I

18:52

turned on the car and the radio started

18:55

literally playing the song I saw

18:57

the Sign by Ace of Bass, which

19:00

was a very beloved

19:03

song of my deceased brother growing

19:05

up, and we would have like dance competitions

19:08

and we would dance too. I saw the sign by

19:10

Asa Base a lot, and

19:13

it just kind of felt like

19:15

like I, especially in light

19:18

of what's happening now in the world,

19:20

and like all this like it feels like to

19:22

me, it feels like really more important than ever

19:24

that people are taking care of themselves so that

19:27

they are the best equipped to deal with

19:29

what's happening. And I

19:32

it felt like the steps that I have been taken

19:34

to try to take care of myself were

19:37

like validated in that moment that it

19:39

was like it literally felt like it

19:41

was like I saw the sign. It's the

19:43

most literal sign. It

19:45

was so funny.

19:47

But I also like, on the on the drive to that

19:50

same doctor's office recently, like I saw

19:52

a bus stop ad that said I'm proud

19:54

of you. And I was like, yeah, that's for

19:56

me, Like that's like all

19:58

these things. I'm just like, yeah,

20:01

that's that's a sign. You

20:03

know what. Today, I

20:05

when I was napping and during my

20:07

nap, you know, I'm like, I

20:10

don't know if I talked about this on the show much, but

20:12

like I'm pretty into this very dumb

20:14

thing called angel numbers. And so

20:16

it's like if you see a repeating seven

20:20

seven seven, whatever, that's like supposed

20:23

to have a meaning. So during my nap,

20:26

I literally saw seven

20:28

seven seven, like in my in my

20:30

mind's eye while I was laying in

20:32

bed, and then I got it from my nap and picked

20:34

up my phone and it was

20:37

five on my phone.

20:40

Good God. And I was like, yeah, see,

20:43

it's all proof

20:46

of something. You don't have to

20:48

believe it. It just makes me happy

20:50

and that's all that matters, you know what. That's where

20:52

I can get on board, where I'm just just like

20:54

I love patterns,

20:57

I love connecting things, and that's

20:59

how I I've grown to appreciate

21:01

your love of it is to let go of my

21:04

need to, you know, try

21:06

to debunk it for no good reason

21:09

and then just go like yeah, that's a that's

21:11

fun. I like it. I'm behind seven

21:13

seven seven five five five is

21:17

your cough? Okay? Yeah,

21:19

I just just I swallowed some coronavirus.

21:22

Coronavirus, and

21:35

now it's time for did you knows?

21:37

This is where we learned something

21:40

and share it with you, Beth.

21:44

So, I thought that was kind of interesting

21:46

topic for discussion right now. This

21:48

is an article from huff Post called how

21:50

to work from home without losing it with your

21:52

partner or your kids. That's not applicable

21:54

at all. Who can imagine

21:56

what that would be like? It's by Katherine

21:59

Pearson. I'm just gonna sort of go

22:01

through her bullet points, um.

22:04

She says plan in twenty four hour

22:06

chunks, um, and just

22:08

sort of like the what she's

22:10

acknowledging is like, we don't really know what's happening.

22:13

I think a lot of us, and that you kind of have to

22:15

take it day by day and just be like, what's the plan

22:17

for dearload?

22:23

Three things? I pray.

22:26

This woman in my mom group who is

22:28

also a Broadway actress, Laura Bananty,

22:31

she posted a Twitter thread this week. Um,

22:34

she was like, if your high school musical

22:36

got canceled because of coronavirus. Please

22:38

share videos of you and your

22:42

uh like classmates performing

22:44

and the videos are so

22:46

good. It's just like, oh my god, that's

22:49

great. It's such a good thread. I'll

22:51

to send it to you later, but it's just like really

22:55

quick sidebar. I played Jesus and God's

22:58

Bill in high school and it

23:00

wasn't until halfway through the performances

23:02

that I realized that the

23:05

entire text of the play was from

23:07

the Book of Matthew, one of the

23:09

the Bible, from the Gospel.

23:12

You were like, hey, wait, is this religious?

23:14

I was like, I was like, this is one of the Gospel, the

23:16

Gospel's Gospel god

23:19

Spell. Oh, and

23:21

I realized that I had memorized most

23:24

of the Book of Matthew, and I was like, I

23:27

really missed. Boy, I'm seventeen

23:29

or night. Okay. So she

23:32

also talked in this article about establishing

23:34

blue zones, which is carving

23:37

out areas in your home that are strictly yours,

23:39

which they acknowledge is very hard if you live

23:41

in a tiny apartment, and it's

23:44

sometimes like it sometimes means that you have

23:46

to take a conference call in

23:48

the car, which is something we're very familiar

23:50

with. UM, but

23:53

It's just like I do think it's good to sort

23:55

of be like, Okay, how are we going to map this

23:57

out? What's the plan? And yes, the plan

23:59

will go out the window when your kids come in and pull

24:01

on you. But um, things

24:04

to know. It says work in shifts, which a

24:06

lot of these things are we're we are already familiar

24:08

with because we already try to work on the weekends

24:10

all the time. Um,

24:13

And it says focus on the upsides.

24:16

This is where I'm really trying to like

24:19

lean into right now. It's like, Okay, this

24:22

is like under other circumstances

24:25

where there wasn't a health emergency. If it was like you

24:27

have two weeks off with your kids and you have to spend time

24:29

with them, I do think the goal would

24:31

be like, Okay, let's make this quality time.

24:33

Let's like obviously go easy

24:35

on ourselves. There's gonna be a lot of screen time, but like

24:38

also like what how can we make the most of it?

24:40

Can we do crafts? Like how can we enjoy

24:42

each other? Um,

24:45

I'm going to be alone in a house with

24:47

our two kids for at least like for

24:49

like four days or something. I think like

24:51

two days. I think I'm committed

24:54

to making a movie with him. M that's

24:57

funny. Um, yeah,

24:59

I will put a

25:02

some sort of tape

25:04

based mustache on Maven and make her

25:06

a villain. I think

25:09

it would be a western western.

25:11

Yeah, she's got a cowboy hat. Okay

25:14

uh. And then it says, make friends with

25:16

your anxiety. It's normal to feel

25:18

anxious. Make friends with friends with your

25:20

anxiety. Could you unpack that please? Well,

25:24

it's just saying like it's normal to be

25:26

anxious in this kind of situation. Don't fight

25:28

it. Be honest with yourself about

25:30

it. Like I was telling my I have

25:33

I have friends who are kind of dealing with different

25:35

I think this is hitting everyone in different ways, and it

25:37

just kind of triggers whatever your particular

25:40

anxiety is. Like I was telling

25:42

you today, like, it's interesting

25:44

to me that in moments of

25:46

stress, your anxiety always goes

25:48

to financial anxiety for

25:51

some reason. Um. But like I

25:53

have a friend who has a newborn baby,

25:55

and she's anxious because it's just like she

25:57

has a newborn. She's already anxious

25:59

because she's trying to sleep train and she's exhausted.

26:02

And I mean, so that's on a

26:04

newborn I guess it's like a few

26:06

months old baby, but she's tired,

26:09

and so I was telling her, like it

26:11

would already be very normal for you to be anxious

26:13

in the situation, Like just go easy on

26:15

yourself that you're anxious, Like it's okay

26:17

that you, as a person with a baby,

26:20

are anxious when there's also a global pandemic

26:22

happening, even though logistically I

26:24

don't think this is going to really affect your baby

26:27

directly. I just

26:30

turned it into a story

26:32

make friends with What is it? What does the title?

26:34

Make Friends with your anxiety? Yeah,

26:37

I'm picturing anxiety is your

26:39

hyper neurotic friend who comes over

26:42

and you want to validate their

26:44

concerns, but you also want to let

26:47

it flow through you so you can help them

26:49

calm down. Your anxiety is your

26:51

neurotic friend, right, well, welcome

26:53

them in. You don't feed You don't want to feed

26:56

the anxiety, right like you don't want to consume the news

26:58

seven, But you also don't want to try to push

27:01

it down and deny it you gently. Yeah,

27:05

So anyway, um, and I

27:07

guess that's the I guess that's the last

27:09

point of this article, but I thought it

27:11

was interesting. I think also if you want to work

27:13

from home really effectively, UM,

27:16

have your husband take the kids out of town

27:18

so you can be alone for four days. You

27:21

keep saying four days, and I don't think it's going

27:23

to be that long. Three or four.

27:25

You said Tuesday, Wednesday. We'll see what happens.

27:27

Right, You're gonna miss us too much? Nope.

27:31

I ordered an Apple TV to be sent

27:34

to the house where we're going great.

27:37

It was that our arts and crafts, well,

27:40

arts and crafts would also be good. But there'll

27:42

be some of that too. Oh, I'm really

27:44

committed to the movie. Now, please

27:47

email us the title of Okay,

27:49

now, don't these assignments shut

27:53

would you give our listeners assignments? It's

27:56

completely self serving and

27:58

not Yeah,

28:01

that's not why else would I have? Why else

28:03

to have a podcast? That's not how you create

28:05

engagement when you if you're

28:07

not why I'm doing it, I'm doing it because

28:10

well, it's not effective or

28:12

useful. It will be

28:15

for what I need, listeners.

28:18

I'm going to shut

28:20

up. Listen, I'm going

28:22

to shoot a movie with my kids. I

28:25

just want you to email with the

28:27

title of the movie should be, and that'll

28:30

be an inspiration for the script. That we write.

28:33

It's not for the podcast, it's for me. I was joking

28:36

with my friends, like I think so

28:38

many of the women I know, their reaction

28:41

to coronavirus is like, okay, pretty

28:43

practical. It's like stock up on food, toilet

28:46

paper, like make sure my kids are taken care of,

28:48

like maybe something to entertain the kids. And

28:50

then like our male

28:53

partners or like men

28:55

we know, are like what's

28:57

going on with the stark market, Like maybe I should

28:59

buy a weapon. Like it's just like they're like

29:01

their reaction is like, so I

29:04

need to get a catapult.

29:06

Yeah, it says like stuff that have Like I

29:09

understand we're all anxious right now, but like, could

29:11

you redirect that to something useful to

29:14

the collective? You never know what you well,

29:19

I just I'm not saying all men. I've seen,

29:22

um, some nice

29:24

men doing nice things, and I think,

29:26

you know, I saw what. Okay,

29:28

I'm talking to some nice thing, but

29:32

there's a really nice thing on. Yeah, you ignored

29:34

me for a full week when I said we should be stalking up on

29:36

supplies, so I had to do like three store runs

29:39

by myself. And then we'll say

29:41

I'm handling everything else very

29:44

well. What does that mean?

29:46

Everything else? I'm taking

29:48

our kids away. Okay,

29:50

there's a lot of big things to deal with that. I

29:53

sent days stalking up

29:56

on food. And then you were like,

29:58

what if we just left town and left all

30:00

this food? And I was like, can we

30:02

wait a couple of days while we eat the

30:04

soup? I made like and well,

30:06

I mean, in my defense, when you stocked up,

30:09

we didn't know everything was going to be canceled. No,

30:13

we knew. This is like where things

30:15

were leading if

30:17

you're following the um.

30:22

Some nice things I've seen people doing online. So there

30:24

was a Twitter threat of someone who they were at. They

30:26

were going to the grocery store, and this elderly

30:29

couple was sitting in their car with the window cracked, and they

30:31

were like, hell, help help, and they were

30:33

like wanted. They have been waiting for someone

30:35

for like an hour to come along and maybe go inside

30:37

and buy their groceries for them, because they were very old

30:39

and they didn't want to get sick. And

30:42

so this person went to the store and bought their groceries for

30:44

them, which I think is really nice. And then I've

30:46

seen other people I know on Facebook

30:48

like they'll like post a

30:50

sign in their apartment building and be

30:52

like, here's my phone number. Any

30:55

like elderly neighbors, anyone who needs help.

30:57

If you can't, like, just call me

31:00

or text me if you want me to go pick up your prescriptions

31:02

or whatever. I feel like people are like I've

31:04

seen things like that, like New Yorkers

31:07

doing that. I think that's really great. Um.

31:10

I just think like I do think,

31:13

in spite of how scary

31:16

this is, I think it's highlighting

31:18

a lot of the weaknesses in our system in

31:20

a good way. I think we, like you know,

31:22

we have to band together, and I hope that people

31:24

will come out of this with a little

31:26

more social awareness and social

31:28

responsibility and

31:31

stop going to bars and

31:33

spreading disease. Being

31:36

off work is not an excuse to go spread

31:39

your germs around self.

31:43

It's just just everyone, just the whole world. Take

31:45

two weeks, then all those people who are sick.

31:48

I think two weeks might be optimistic,

31:50

though I don't know what is going to happen. Well,

31:52

well, I mean if we if literally

31:55

everyone self isolated for

31:57

two weeks, then

32:00

there's that amount of time

32:02

if there's no spreading that all of

32:05

those people that are going to recover recover and now

32:07

have immunities and it becomes way harder

32:09

for things to spread. Yeah,

32:11

but some people work in hospitals, some people

32:13

are Amazon delivery people, like, they're

32:15

still going out there. There's not going to be a zero

32:18

spread, even if most of us are pretty

32:20

responsible. Right, Well, it's the more

32:22

you can do all at once. That's the flattening

32:24

of the curve. And it doesn't overwhelm

32:26

the the system. You spread it out.

32:29

Maybe get to the point where we get a little vaccine.

32:31

And let's hope we get a vaccine.

32:35

Considering our president turned down the World

32:37

Health Organization test for this

32:40

virus. He just took it. We found

32:42

out it was negative. No,

32:44

I mean he turned the World Organization

32:47

was sending the test around to different countries, and

32:49

he and his administration

32:51

decided that we should develop our own tests

32:53

and waste time doing that, and then we developed a faultier

32:56

test that doesn't work as well. Don't get

32:58

me started. No, I am

33:00

allowed to get starred. I didn't mean

33:02

that literally, that colloquially.

33:06

Colloquially anyway,

33:09

Um, we should say that we are recording

33:11

this um two days earlier

33:13

than we normally do, so the whole world

33:16

could have fallen apart since we recorded

33:18

this, so so sorry for Yeah, by the

33:20

time you're listening to this, if it even gets

33:22

released, we could be on fire. Yeah,

33:25

we might. We might be on fire right now.

33:27

Not not the world, just us two today.

33:30

So I really do believe there's like a

33:33

collective unconscious and that we kind

33:35

of like pick up on things, whether or

33:37

not we are directly knowledgeable what's

33:39

happening when there's tension in the world. And

33:41

today Maybe and Brenn we're playing and they're

33:44

talking about their like playing

33:47

and Bryn was like talking about my

33:49

sister who lives in Brooklyn, and he was like, Ali,

33:53

her town got struck by lightning and

33:55

she can't come. And then Maybe

33:58

was like, but I love her.

34:00

And I was texted my sister to let her

34:02

know they were saying this, and she was like, are

34:05

they is this them processing coronavirus?

34:07

Which like they we haven't told them that like

34:09

much about it. I did, like I've

34:12

been trying to tell Brenda wash his hands more. And

34:14

then he gets angry and he told me I'll

34:17

never meet someone with coronavirus

34:19

in my whole life. Um,

34:22

he did try to open the fridge with his mouth

34:25

today and I was like, this is

34:27

what we were talking about. I know, it's

34:29

our fridge. You'll be fine. We

34:31

need to get better on the germs thing, because they are

34:34

not kidding, they're real five

34:36

and three year old. So we went

34:38

for our nature walk today and there

34:40

was by the way, the nature preserve

34:43

has never been busier. Everyone,

34:47

well, we can't go to a crowded places. Let's

34:49

go where no one goes. It was still

34:51

good, we were still able to social distance,

34:53

but the parking lot was packed. Um.

34:56

But so we were walking and we passed these like three

35:00

older girls, at least relative to

35:02

Maven who walked by, and Maven

35:04

was like cool, cool older girls. And

35:06

as they passed by, I heard these girls

35:09

go what did what do they

35:11

say? They're like, can you imagine

35:13

if my parents were dead? And

35:16

then and then others like imagine

35:18

my parents are dead? And

35:21

I realized, like, there, I've

35:23

read hundreds, tens of thousands

35:25

of stories written by kids,

35:28

and there is a through line of

35:30

stories written by probably aged seven

35:33

to twelve year old girls who

35:35

love to write about uh,

35:38

young female protagonists whose parents are

35:40

dead well, which is like every

35:42

Disney movie even children. Yeah,

35:44

children's fiction is full of orphan

35:47

children and then romanticize it and make

35:49

it seem sort of like really great that your parents

35:51

are dead, like Harry Potter. Um,

35:54

But yeah, I already

35:56

told you this. But I was at the same

35:58

nature preserve like a week ago, and I

36:00

was trying to go for nature walk and these

36:03

two boys walked up to me, who are like nine

36:05

or ten years old, and one of them was like,

36:08

um, excuse me, Can I ask you

36:10

the question, Um, if there

36:12

are deer and they're walking towards

36:14

you, is that dangerous? There's

36:16

some deer over there. And then his friend

36:19

interrupted and he was like, no, no, that's not the

36:21

question. The question is do you know what time

36:23

it is? And I so

36:25

I gave them the time. I

36:28

told him what time it is, and then they were like, oh my god,

36:30

we gotta get out of here, we have to go, and

36:32

then they ran on. That's

36:34

when the deers said they would come and meet

36:36

us and walk towards us quiet

36:39

devon. They're kind of trying

36:41

to warn me that there was deer about because this nature

36:43

preserved we go to always has deer

36:46

and deer. But like, I can see how

36:48

if you're like a kid and there's this deer

36:51

just like hanging out. You're like, uh, is

36:53

this dangerous? Maybe

36:55

it's not a dumb question? Really?

37:00

Nine or ten? They're really cute alright,

37:03

ten? Great age. Yeah, so

37:06

the moral of the article, the

37:09

moral of the article, well, it's

37:11

just like the moral moral of the article I

37:14

think is like, have a plan,

37:16

set some expectations with each other, Like

37:18

let's all try to support

37:21

each other, yeah, so that we can all

37:23

get some work done.

37:39

This next segment is called Listeners Want

37:41

to Know, is where we take questions and comments

37:43

from you guys. This email comes

37:45

to us from Mindy. Mindy

37:47

says first time writer Hi Beth and Peter.

37:50

I've been listening to you guys for a long time, and I love

37:52

every episode. I cannot find another

37:54

podcast that brings me as

37:57

much joy. So I am currently

37:59

realist too for the

38:01

fun of it. Is nice.

38:04

You're gonna know more about us than we do. I

38:06

have a six year old daughter, Alicia, not

38:09

Alyssa. Alicia, emphasized

38:12

the I A Alicia, Alicia,

38:15

Alicia Alicia. Well,

38:17

you've definitely nailed it. I've definitely nailed

38:19

one of those two. And uh

38:22

so Alicia and twin month

38:25

old boys and Grace.

38:27

Congratulations on she goes.

38:30

Yes, it is Hell. I

38:32

love listening to your experiences with Brin

38:35

due to the fact that him and my daughter

38:37

are the same age and hit the same milestones.

38:39

Pretty milestone is pretty close together. Anyways,

38:42

I'm emailing you for advice on

38:44

a heavy topic. Beth. This

38:47

will hit home and maybe triggering for you. I'm

38:49

married to a wonderful husband who is

38:51

the father of my twin boys, but not Alicia.

38:54

I met him when my daughter turned

38:56

one. My daughter's father, or

38:58

as I call it, orm donor, overdosed

39:02

and passed away when she was two, never

39:05

meeting her, knowing nothing about her being

39:07

pregnant, with her knowing her father was

39:09

an active drug user, and I'll just

39:12

say not a nice person, was abusive,

39:14

slash, manipulative, truly affected

39:17

my way of loving real PTSD

39:19

stuff. Oh. I had always

39:22

planned on being upfront with her and keeping

39:24

her in the know. However, after

39:26

meeting my now husband, all of that

39:28

changed. He ended up being totally amazing

39:31

and wanting. I wanted to be the father

39:33

figure in her life, and that's what happened.

39:36

She only knows him as dad. I

39:38

know her to know. I want I

39:41

know I want her to know the truth of him

39:43

not being her biological father, but

39:45

I'm not sure how Slash went to approach

39:48

this. The past five years with

39:50

my husband were so great, I

39:54

um I didn't have this huge desire

39:56

to try to dissect this information with a

39:58

little girl now, now her being six,

40:01

she's so smart and capable of understanding

40:03

a lot of things. But I don't want this to be confusing

40:05

for her. She is aware that her

40:08

at that her and

40:10

Mommy have the same last name. I

40:12

won't change mine until we get her officially

40:14

adopted, which we are doing, but it is

40:16

surprisingly giant pain in the ass.

40:19

We live in Oregon and there are a lot of

40:21

hoops we have to go through. I was thinking of

40:23

throwing a party with our friends and family when

40:25

we get her officially adopted and our names

40:28

changed, but still don't know if that's

40:30

when I should dig deeper, dig

40:32

super deep into everything. It may

40:34

be this year or maybe next year,

40:37

so she'll be either six or seven. Looking

40:39

at Brent, do you think you would be able to understand

40:42

something like this? If so, how would

40:44

you approach this or would you wait

40:46

until he's a little older, say ten

40:48

to twelve? When the concept may make

40:50

more sense. Any advice would be great,

40:53

thanks, mindy okay.

40:55

My My immediate quick

40:58

reaction to that is she'll

41:00

understand, Yeah,

41:03

I think okay, So I

41:05

think, okay, take our advice with a grain of salt.

41:07

We haven't researched this. I do

41:09

think you should go with your gut in some

41:12

ways on this situation. But my

41:15

instinct is to not necessarily

41:17

have a big talk sit down,

41:19

but like just start offhand

41:21

referencing the birth

41:24

dad in this situation while she's still

41:26

young, so that it doesn't feel like a shocker

41:29

when she's ten. I think,

41:31

I don't think you have to sort of I

41:33

don't in this situation because it

41:35

doesn't sound like he was ever an active parent, especially

41:38

like I don't think you have to be like you

41:41

had another daddy or like make it confusing

41:43

for her for what she can comprehend

41:45

at this age. But I do think,

41:48

like, if you're talking like birds and bees, you can be

41:50

like, mommy got you know,

41:53

pregnant with this other man, Like there's

41:55

sperm from this man, and you know, like

41:57

I do think it's good to start planning seeds

41:59

so she doesn't feel like the secret was hidden

42:02

from her. I think it's all in

42:05

how how you

42:07

say it. Um. I really

42:09

think to my mom and these

42:11

types of heavy conversations, who is so

42:14

great at being

42:17

positive and open and matter of fact

42:20

about things, and she

42:22

never like the if

42:25

you're bringing a ton of weight to a thing

42:27

you're sharing, that scares a

42:29

kid and they can tell that there's something important

42:31

about it, right. I don't think you need to like sit them

42:33

down, but just when you're talking about different things to be like,

42:36

oh, yeah, well you're your

42:38

brother's you know, I'm

42:40

trying to think of a good way to say

42:42

sperm sperm donation, but

42:44

like, you know, we have different genes

42:47

and you came from this guy, and yeah,

42:49

you should say exactly what it is, which

42:52

is that like, oh, you know you have a different biological

42:55

father, and then explain what that means. I

42:57

had. I had a moment with the kids this week. That's kind

42:59

of really fun to me because like so I

43:01

probably said this before, but like my brother who

43:03

died um when he was twenty

43:06

one and I was nineteen, and he died

43:08

of oxoually cotton overdose.

43:11

It was very unexpected, but like we

43:14

sort of we don't talk about him a lot

43:16

with the kids because they never knew him,

43:18

but like we're trying to sort of bring it up, and I think

43:20

he brought it up. So

43:22

then this week Britain was drawing

43:25

all of us as like eggs

43:27

for some reason, and then

43:30

he drew one egg with like scrabble

43:33

on it, and he goes, that's Uncle

43:35

Craig. He's cracked because he died,

43:38

and like it really actually

43:41

made me like simultaneously like laugh

43:44

and emotional, like I was, like I

43:46

was like it made me mostly

43:48

like very happy and grateful that he knew

43:51

who my brother was because I haven't really

43:53

taken a lot of time to talk to him about my brother.

43:56

But I do want them long term

43:58

to know that my other like my brother

44:01

is a huge part of who I am and like how

44:03

I came to be, and like I

44:05

don't I want them to know that,

44:08

like this person was in my life. And

44:10

so I was really like laughing

44:12

because I think my brother would

44:14

really like to be remembered

44:17

as like a cracked egg, Like I

44:20

think it really would have made him laugh, but it's

44:22

like that's the way he's characterized

44:24

by them. Well, when I read this email, um,

44:27

the first thing I thought was this conversation I had

44:30

with Brin because he came up organically,

44:33

uh, because we're going, you know, talked

44:35

about backwards in time

44:38

and sort of our family timeline. And

44:42

I had a moment where I was like, this

44:44

is something that Beth should tell

44:47

him. But because

44:49

he came up organically, I was like, if

44:51

I say that now, I'm going

44:53

to turn it into a big

44:55

deal. And it's important

44:58

and it's sad things. But so I just I

45:01

just turned on my mind. I turned on my mom's

45:03

voice and immediately just and

45:06

it's this this tone she

45:08

had or goes, oh, you know that mommy

45:10

had a brother named Craig and he actually died,

45:13

and he goes really and goes yep, And I

45:15

said it was very sad. Um,

45:18

yeah, and he he took he

45:21

took too much of a medicine

45:23

that he shouldn't have been and he died and he was

45:25

very sad, and he could tell it

45:28

was sad, but he also it

45:31

felt fine. So the way I was thinking

45:33

about this when I read this email is the

45:35

way you tell your daughter is

45:38

as if this imagine

45:41

that this event had

45:43

happened to your daughter's best friend.

45:46

And no, no, bear

45:49

with me for a second, Like if this

45:52

if your daughter's best friend had

45:56

the same experience happened and she just

45:58

found out about it, and then you had to tell

46:00

that story to your daughter. Oh like your

46:02

friend who like your bio

46:05

dad. Yeah, your friends, but your friends actually

46:08

has a different biological father who passed

46:10

away, so I didn't know about it. The

46:12

tone you would use would be sensitive,

46:15

but it wouldn't be It wouldn't

46:17

be stern, and it wouldn't be overly precious.

46:19

It would be a matter of fact and

46:22

sensitive. Bring that tone to it.

46:25

One of my pet peeves about the

46:27

grieving process is like as

46:29

Americans were not very comfortable

46:31

with death, and we like try to hide it

46:33

away instead of just like talking about

46:35

the elephant in the room, which is like for grieving

46:38

people, it's like every other

46:40

second you're thinking about the person

46:43

you lost, Like it's not a mystery,

46:45

Like it's not like you're not offending

46:48

that person by bringing it up, you know what I mean. And

46:50

I think we have a tendency

46:52

as a culture to be like, oh, I don't want

46:54

to hurt someone's feelings by talking about this dark thing,

46:56

litta blah blah blah. And it's like, no like

47:00

knowledge it. You don't have to necessarily like force

47:02

them to get into it at various points, but like

47:05

you should be mindful of

47:07

the fact that people are going through dark

47:09

things from time to time, you know, like I don't

47:11

just don't show people fear, yeah,

47:14

just like yeah, just like openly and be like,

47:16

oh yeah, like you're this these things you're

47:18

dealing with. And I think the same thing

47:20

for addiction, to be honest, like, just

47:22

like because we create so

47:25

much shame and fear around

47:27

it that it makes it even harder

47:30

thing to deal with than it is to

47:32

begin with. So I would

47:35

say six

47:38

is the perfect age. I think

47:40

any any longer and it starts to feel like

47:43

we've been hiding something from you. But

47:46

I think she'll completely under She'll

47:48

have questions, she might to completely

47:50

understand, but trust

47:53

that six year olds are very smart.

47:55

They just don't have enough context sometimes

47:58

together. You don't have to

48:00

bring it up all the time, just like once

48:02

in a while, just if it comes up,

48:05

don't don't like run away from

48:07

the issue. And I think as a

48:09

six year old, she's probably going to process it in

48:11

some weird ways and ask some weird questions.

48:13

And I think it's like it's good

48:15

to let her lean into that and like

48:17

if she has kind of like a sick

48:20

fascination with it for a week, you know,

48:22

like let her do her thing,

48:24

because it's like that's how kids process and

48:26

they they say and

48:28

ask weird things and that's part

48:31

of the process and it's good. And just show her it's

48:33

fine and that everything happened

48:37

the way it happened and here

48:39

we are now and she has

48:42

her daddy now and

48:46

her dad obviously, and yeah,

48:48

I think I think the tricky part, I think

48:51

is just sort of trying to find the terminology

48:53

that is age accessible and also feels

48:56

sort of respectful, respectful of the

48:59

situation, which is that this man was

49:01

never really a dad to her. Her bio dad.

49:03

He was, you know, he's

49:06

the reason she is here,

49:08

but he you know, he's not her dad,

49:10

and she gets still gets to have her dad, and like

49:12

you know what I mean, Like, I think those are the

49:14

things you might have to think through a little bit. But I don't

49:17

think it'll be as hard

49:20

as it might seem in your mind, because

49:22

your daughter is going to process it slowly over

49:25

many years. Show her that you

49:27

are fine with it, and she will be fine

49:29

with it, um

49:33

ps its the ps here

49:36

I will say, um

49:38

just because well

49:41

I'll just read it. I'll say I keep in contact

49:43

with my ex as mom. She lost

49:45

her husband about two years ago after

49:48

her son, her only son. I

49:50

am Mexican, have a huge family,

49:53

lots of names, boylos uh.

49:55

So my daughter just refers to her as

49:57

Nana Lupita, which is

50:00

not that uncommon for us to have a lot

50:02

of relatives like that. Also, here's

50:04

a pick of my kids. Yes,

50:07

no is a little redhead. My husband

50:09

is not a redhead. Oh my god,

50:11

alright, ready, cute picture. So this

50:14

is a mini segment where we go we knows

50:16

what they look like. Where I show a picture. I

50:18

showed a picture of kids to Beth and

50:21

she reacts because she loves all children, and

50:23

you know this will be no different. Ready, Beth one

50:25

two three, boom Oh

50:29

he has glasses. A

50:32

little kid with glasses. One

50:34

of my friends kids just got glasses.

50:37

And I'm like, that's so cute.

50:39

Gosh, I love these I

50:42

love these children. Yeah,

50:44

he's the redhead. What color

50:46

hair is the Maleman's

50:48

just kidding. But

50:51

I think the fact that the biological

50:54

grandmothers in the picture, I think only makes it easier

50:56

because it's just you know, you say, um,

50:59

what did she say, A Bola Lupizza

51:01

or Nana Lupizza? She

51:03

said, like, I think she can just be

51:05

like, you know, Nana Lupizza had this son,

51:08

and that's how you Yeah,

51:10

yeah, you um, your

51:12

biological father, uh you

51:15

know, uh passed away before

51:17

you are old enough to know him. That's

51:20

the fact you start with that. Yeah.

51:24

I wonder if there's a book out there for this

51:26

kind of thing, and just in terms of the terminology

51:28

that kids are, what's accessible

51:31

for little kids. Yeah,

51:33

again I'd say,

51:36

be okay with it, and she will too.

51:39

Well. Um, thank you mindy, thank

51:41

you for asking guests, and thank you for re listening.

51:43

I hope you're not in this section where we were fighting

51:46

all the time. Is

51:48

that hard to get through? What

51:50

was our life like then? We don't know. I don't

51:52

know. We've been We've been tired a

51:54

lot. This has

51:56

been another episode we know his parenting well.

51:58

First of all, I just want to say we have

52:00

gotten so many

52:03

emails this week, um,

52:05

because you guys like showing off your kids. And

52:07

I'll tell you what, we love seeing pictures.

52:09

We're gonna We're definitely going to do

52:12

another another We Knows

52:14

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52:17

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52:19

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52:21

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52:23

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52:27

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52:30

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