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Jeana Anderson cohen (00:01.499) It's pretty rare that you actually get to discover something in this life, like really, really discover something. Being the first person to find a dinosaur bone was pretty dope, I'll bet, and making the telephone ring for the first time. Hello, that's pretty cool. Although, as a millennial, I would prefer you text me first to check on whether I'm available before you call me. But Stephanie Van Watson discovered the essentiality of a fatty acid in pursuit of dolphin health. That was saying a sentence to read as it was to write. But as she studied and brought this to market, her partner in all things, Eric Van Watson, co-founded what is now known as Fatty 15. Oh, and by the way, this is a Sweatlifes Podcast, We Got Goals. And I'm Gina Anderson Cohen, founder and CEO of a Sweatlife. Eric, Stephanie, welcome to the show. Thanks for joining me. Steph (00:50.922) Thanks, Gina. Great to be here. Jeana Anderson cohen (00:53.535) Oh, I'm excited to chat with you. But before we dig in, we start every day at a sweat lab and every episode of We Got Goals with one good thing. So let's start with you, Steph. What's good? Steph (01:03.882) Yeah, I'm gonna throw it off a little bit. Shorter days, most people don't like shorter days, but it means longer nights. And I love a cozy time. Evening comes in a little sooner. We get to like rest up as a family and hang out. So I love that. Good thing. I am. Jeana Anderson cohen (01:08.257) Thank you. Jeana Anderson cohen (01:22.283) You're a Higgie person. Okay, that tells me a lot about you as a human. I like that. Eric, what about you? What's good? Steph (01:29.83) I had an incredible morning. I got to wake up to my son playing piano. It has nothing to do with me moving the piano between where he comes down the stairs and where he gets his food, but it was beautiful. It's a nice way to wake up. Jeana Anderson cohen (01:43.339) So before we started recording, you told me a little bit about your son. He seems like an incredible human being from what I can tell, like very interesting. The fact that he's playing, he's 14. Is that what you told me? Is that right? Okay, playing piano just for fun in the morning. He worked for your company for a little bit. We don't have to tell what age he was, because whatever. It's a family business though, labor laws don't apply. And he's done some stellar negotiation already. But I would love to meet your kid. Okay, you've made a great offspring. That's what's good. Okay, my good thing, I will say my good thing is that my dogs aren't barking right now. That might seem like a medium good thing for some folks, but we have a new neighbor down the hall who has a dog. And when dogs move, they get really anxious. And so that dog's been barking. So my dogs have been talking. It seems that they're all settling in though. So we're doing great. Okay. Steph (02:45.223) area. Steph (02:49.982) If we could only tell what they were saying to each other, then it would be probably really entertaining. Jeana Anderson cohen (02:55.455) Honestly, I think probably at least one of you has tried to figure out what animals are saying to each other. Stephanie, is that true? Steph (03:05.863) That's true. I have not been successful, I think, but someone will get there. Jeana Anderson cohen (03:10.483) Okay. Well, as we've said in previous episodes of season nine of the podcast, this season we're dedicating really all of our episodes to asking smart people to teach us something. As a lifelong learner and nerd, I love learning and I'm really going to use all of my resources to empower myself to do that. And I hope you come along on this journey. So let's dig in, let's nerd out about fatty acids. Before we dive into fatty acids, tell us about Fatty 15, the company and where it came from. Steph (03:43.626) Yeah, absolutely. So I'll start with Fatty15, the product, and then have Eric chat about the origin of the company. So yeah, so Fatty15, our company, it's also our pure and science-backed C15 supplement, which we'll talk about, and how it works at the cellular level, and does a bunch of things to basically help our long-term health and wellness. And so, you know, we'll talk about fatty acids and everything that they come from, and nerd out around all of the science, but Eric can talk about. How do we bring fatty-15 and the company? We're actually moving this forward as a pharmaceutical. We'll talk about a lot of the science. There was a lot of very beneficial disease-treating information. So we were actually at Salk talking to the person who invented a certain type of receptor that this molecule activates, and he said, this is a natural molecule. You have the moral obligation to bring this forward as a natural product. And so then we developed a food ingredient and, you know, we'll talk about the science, but we published in Nature and Public Library of Science and all kinds of places. And we thought people are just going to read that information. And so they're going to find out about this discovery, but no one reads Nature. Very few people are in Nature. And so we came out with this supplement and we named it fatty 15. Fatty because it's, it's a fatty acid and 15 because it's got 15 carbons in the backbone. And so that we launched in 2001. And you know, it sold out in six weeks. We were ingredient producer of the year by the end of the year, fast company, world changing idea, front page of the science section of the New York Times, all kinds of stuff which is great. And since that time, you know, we've been very excited by what consumers have been saying. We get to wake up to amazing testimonials every day which is the reason we do this. And it's been growing rapidly. Jeana Anderson cohen (05:31.211) That's super exciting. I was actually, I was talking about the supplement with my husband, because I've been taking it for about 60 days. When I spoke with Ken on your team, he is a natural advocate of the product. Obviously he works with you. And he was singing all of the benefits, including like brain health and cell regeneration. And he talked about like... research that's been done around Parkinson's disease. My father-in-law has Parkinson's disease. So it really resonated with me. So of course I've been talking about it all the time when I like something I talk about it all the time. And my husband and I were chatting on our morning walk with our dogs and he was like, why is it called fatty 15? And I was like, I think it's because of the carbon chain. If I'm thinking back to chemistry, I think a fatty acid has an acid coming off of a carbon chain. Right? Am I close? Steph (06:26.566) Yeah, yeah, absolutely. And you know, we wanted to, because we know we thought about that name, Gina, and we're just like, okay, is this going to be a good name or not? But there was a fact that we spent hours talking about that. It drove conversation. So a good, like we really wanted to evangelize the word fatty and help to neutralize the term. So it's not always bad. It can be good. And let's just own the word fatty. Let's force the conversation. So we could talk about. good and bad fats, including good saturated fatty acids. We didn't know how customers would respond, people would respond, but amazingly, people love the name. Not amazingly, people love the name, period, which is amazing. Jeana Anderson cohen (07:08.551) I mean, I like the name. Okay, so Stephanie, you are the one who discovered, you've made a discovery. You discovered the essential nature of C15, the first essential fatty acid to be discovered since omega-3. Did I get that right? Steph (07:23.306) You did? Yeah, 90, over 90 years ago. Jeana Anderson cohen (07:26.483) Nailed it. Okay, so why is this so important and what does it do for us? Steph (07:30.602) Yeah, absolutely. So it's important for several reasons. One is, when we talk about essential fatty acids, there are only two known before this discovery. One's in Omega-3, one's in Omega-6, and then C-15 is the third. What's important about this, Gina, is that a C-15 is a saturated fat. So first and foremost, it's really important for people to know that not all saturated fats are bad. We've been increasingly learning that maybe saturated fats aren't bad for us. But a new conversation is not only are they not all bad, that there are some that are essential to promoting and protecting our long-term health. So really big important discovery. And the reason why that's important is because, you know, we've really spent the last 40 years, right, of methodically taking saturated fats out of our diet, all kinds, including the good, these good odd chain, right, 15 carbons, odd chain saturated fatty acids. that are essential. And so as we took C-15 out of our diet, because the primary sources of them for us is whole fat, milk and dairy, population-wide C-15 levels been declining. And we haven't really gotten healthier as a population. We've gotten a lot sicker. So the world's a bit broken. And now what's happened over the last really 10 years of science is not only the work that we've done, but now groups like Harvard and Hopkins and Cambridge you know, lots of groups are coming out showing that C-15 is essential to maintaining our health and even reversing and slowing the rate at which we age. So the leading hypothesis now with all of this is that we have caused nutritional C-15 deficiencies, which are actually then feeding into these global problems that we're seeing. That's the downside. The upside is this is something that's fixable. So we're excited to be able to bring C-15 to the world. Jeana Anderson cohen (09:29.771) And what's interesting about that is, I mean, I connect the dots on this. I just this week saw an Instagram post from some fun Mimi account that was like, and I'm saying meme like meme with a Y. I know that it's pronounced meme, guys. But some fun meme account that posted like ice cream for breakfast is good for you. And I saw and hearing you say that C15 is in full fat dairy. Um, is that kind of the link? Steph (10:01.426) It is. And so, you know, if you look at dairy studies, right, you can, if you said, hey, Steph, give a lecture on all the benefits that milk is good for us. I could do an entire lecture on that. If you asked me to give a lecture on milk is bad for us, I could write a whole lecture on that. So the science has been really mixed. And now what we're coming to understand is that in dairy fat, and there are over 400 fatty acids. in dairy milk and dairy fat. And we're finding, we're able to parse out which of these fatty acids are beneficial for our long-term health and which are actually competing with it. So as an example, odd chain saturated fats like C15, repeatedly and consistently shown as beneficial for our long-term health, lower risk of having diabetes, lower risk of heart disease, while in the exact same studies, higher levels of even chain. saturated fats like C16, which are present at much higher levels in dairy fat, continuously associated with a higher risk of type two diabetes. And so it's like, it's a mixed bag where you don't want to go with, you don't want to abandon it altogether, but how can we get the good fat without, without. Jeana Anderson cohen (11:20.107) I have so many questions. I have so many follow-up questions. I honestly, I'll limit it to two. Can we, I feel like two is fair for this portion of the interview. Okay, first and foremost, we're talking about odd and even chain saturated fats. So can you give an example of some other odd chain or sources of odd chain saturated fats? Steph (11:49.606) Yeah, absolutely. So our primary source by far is dairy fat. In fact, it's so reliable as our source of dairy fat that C15 has been used for decades as a marker of how much dairy fat we eat. How much C15 we had in our blood was a direct reflection of how much dairy fat we eat. That said, dolphins, right? We made this discovery looking at healthy aging dolphins. Dolphins certainly were not getting this from ice cream and whole fat milk. So their primary source was fish. And so there are certain types of fish that have odd chain saturated fats in them. Some have it not all and in the fish, it's primarily in their skin and heads, which dolphins eat, but we don't get as much of. Yeah, and then to add to that, the milk that people used to get, the whole fat milk is different from the milk we get today. And so there's a lot less of the odd chains after fatty acids in it today because cows are corn fed or they're not eating the same grass that has a higher level of C15. So the quality of milk has changed over time. Jeana Anderson cohen (12:59.327) Okay, so thinking about avocados and coconut oil, are those odd or even? Steph (13:05.974) Those are primarily even chain. When we talk about coconut oil, a lot of people talk about the benefits of coconut oil because of these things called MCTs, right? Or medium chain triglycerides. So there are different fatty acids that have been studied in different ways. And so that's why looking at a variety of food sources to get the fatty acids that we need. When we get down to the essential fatty acids, again, that then kind of Jeana Anderson cohen (13:08.733) Okay. Steph (13:34.646) cleans up the world to like three that we absolutely must get from our diet because our bodies can't make it. Jeana Anderson cohen (13:44.935) Okay, I guess that counts as a follow-up. So they'll really be three. Colostrum is having a moment. Colostrum comes from the first milking of a cow after they have a calf. And honestly, in my head, it was a pyramid scheme because my grandparents sold it out of their garage as a part of a pyramid scheme, like decades and decades ago. But now we're finding that it has benefits. Is C15 present in Colostrum? Steph (14:14.69) Yes, so C15 is present in, yeah, exactly, in colostrum, whether it's from a cow, my familiar territory, you know, as a veterinarian, as well as in human breast milk. So every mammal at birth through colostrum, and then of course in the milk following, is getting a good source of C15. Jeana Anderson cohen (14:34.577) you know a good source. Jeana Anderson cohen (14:39.047) It's wild. Okay, okay. I wanna make sure I ask you all my questions because I could go down a road of Q&A all day. Okay, so take us to school. What is actually a fatty acid? I know I made you define it a little bit, but what is a fatty acid and what makes it essential? Steph (14:58.378) Yeah, absolutely. So fatty acids are the simplest way to put it, they are molecules that serve a wide variety of benefits throughout our body. And so when we look at specifically, and they do a lot of things, Gina, so we'd be here all day if we talked about everything, but the most important things that fatty acids do are they are the makeup of our cell membranes. So it means that every cell, we're made only of cells pretty much, right? So, Every cell in our body is protected by the cell membrane. The makeup of that cell membrane, how resilient or how fragile our cells are, are completely dependent upon the fatty acids in them. So big role, fatty acids also help with our cells talking to each other, as well as cellular signaling within. And what that means is they help to keep our bodies balanced. So metabolism and immunity, and we know those communications going well because of fatty acids. And then the last thing they do is, not the last, the last of the top three things that they do are that they also help feed mitochondria. So we go back to third grade, right? Powerhouses of ourselves, of their mitochondria. They're powerhouses because the mitochondria are able to use fatty acids really as fuel to make that energy. So if you had to pick like what your favorite three things that fatty acids do. Jeana Anderson cohen (16:11.371) powerhouse. Steph (16:25.546) It's a fun cocktail fact, if you look at longer lived animals, they have more C15 in their cell membranes, compared mice, worms, and flies to humans, whales, dolphins. It's interesting. Jeana Anderson cohen (16:39.195) Okay, so cell communication, are we talking about like neuromuscular communication? Steph (16:45.938) It's really everything. So if we think about, yeah, so if we think about like a best way to put it, Gina, is our cells have these receptors on them and they're like these little hammocks waiting, right, for fatty acids to settle in and be like, hey, if I settle into this hammock, I need you to do this, and this. So we talk about as we get older, our metabolism slows down, right? We talk about that. So these receptors, when they're working, keep our metabolism going. That would be a good example. So... Jeana Anderson cohen (16:47.467) everything. Steph (17:14.186) that it helps with signaling with regard to whether it's between a neuron and a muscle or between our liver cell and fat that we just ate. Jeana Anderson cohen (17:24.647) Okay, it's all making so much sense. Okay, so we know what it is and we kind of understand why we need it, but let's put in really easy terms, but why do regular, let's say like, let's put it in me terms, because it's all about me. Why does a 37-ish-year-old active person need fatty acids, in particular C15? And why do we need to supplement? Steph (17:50.61) Yeah, absolutely. So fatty acids in general, so our body is using fatty acids all the time and it's usually pretty good at making all the fatty acids we need, which is awesome. Such is un-good. So when we get down to these essential fatty acids, this one omega-3, one omega-6 and now C-15, these fatty acids are ones that we have to get from our diet or supplementation in order to maintain healthy levels of it. And if we don't maintain healthy levels of it at any age, then we suffer consequences. So we actually start breaking down. So at any age, whether we're four years old or 30 years old, the mounting science is supporting that C15 is critical to making sure our cells keep working so that the simplest way to put it, without C15, our aging is accelerated. So there's a lot happening in younger people. People who are younger are getting higher rates of metabolic disease, of heart disease, even of cancer, of this thing called fatty liver disease, now present in one in three people and one in 10 children. And so again, feeding this hypothesis that as we've taken C15 out of our diets, at any age, how can we get it back in? to help really protect our cellular health so that at all ages we're healthy. For us sweat life followers who are obviously incredibly aware and healthy people, right? That we, feedback, I know, Yerrick, you can share feedback we get from people who work out a lot and, you know. Yeah, it's interesting. Like I said, we get to wake up every morning with these testimonials, which is incredible. And so there's a lot of people that say, you know, I recover faster. I'm able to work out longer. Jeana Anderson cohen (19:30.943) So healthy. Steph (19:48.862) things like that, which is great. We also probably the most common things we actually get are my hair is thicker, my skin is shinier, I'm sleeping better, my mood is better, and I snack less between meals. Those are the top five. And if you look at the amount of people that have those near-term benefits, and this is partly because it's when we ask people, when we survey them, but at four months it's three out of four people are saying they're feeling some of these near-term benefits, which is great because we didn't know that based on Jeana Anderson cohen (19:57.227) I'm going to sleep over there. Steph (20:18.686) early studies that we're looking at in dolphins and cell systems. We knew the long-term effects, we didn't know that they'd have these great near-term effects. Jeana Anderson cohen (20:25.631) Don't you wish dolphins could tell you their dreams? Like, wouldn't that be cool? Steph (20:28.206) Oh, I am. I'm pretty sure that gets back to that original question, dude. I'm pretty sure they're trying and they're just like, oh, these humans. Jeana Anderson cohen (20:36.319) Yeah, God get out of my brain. I'm just trying to swim and eat fish and enjoy my life. I'm a dolphin. So I shared with you two pretty recently that I, when I, in the first week or so, when I was taking fatty 15, I started, I looked into when each member of the team takes their supplement and I decided that I wanted to take mine before bed for recovery and better sleep. And so I noticed almost immediately that I had super vivid dreams. I'm a pretty vivid dreamer in general. But it was amplified for the first two weeks, and then it almost like settled in. So it was like my brain was working in overdrive. But my dreams were about my actual day, which is unusual for me. So it was almost like my brain was empowered to solve real problems while I slept. And and all the other stuff you're saying, I'm like, Yeah, probably my skin's shinier. But I'm sleeping so much better. Steph (21:34.902) beautiful. Yeah, nice skin. Jeana Anderson cohen (21:36.03) Yeah. Oh my God, thanks. I do have a light on my face right now. Okay, so for the folks who are listening, omega-3s, probably something you've been told your whole life that you should take it, you should take it for your brain health, for your body health, for your cell health. They're the fatty acids you've probably heard about. We've all heard that we're supposed to eat fish for those. Why are they the only one we've probably heard of until now? Steph (22:06.342) Yeah, it's a great question, Gina. So with this founding story of with fish oil and Omega-3s, it's just like, it's been this really kind of crazy roller coaster ride that's gotten us to where we are today, which then like, of course, includes the dolphins with being able to look at dolphins and what they eat for benefits. But if we go back, it's like, you know, we talk about fish oil, fish oil, even before we knew about Omega-3s, fish oil was being used as a supplement. like back in London during the industrial revolution. And the reason for it is because there was so much pollution in the sky, the sun couldn't get through. And so kids were getting vitamin D deficiencies because they were getting no sun. So when they gave them cod liver oil, remember this from like great grandmothers or grandmothers, cod liver oil, super high in vitamin D. and it successfully cured kids in industrial revolution blended of rickets, right? Vitamin D deficiency. So after like the pollution cleared up and the sign came back, the fish oil industry kind of was like, now what? So meanwhile, we had George and Mildred Burr, this couple in the 1920s, who looked at concentrated dairy fat to figure out which parts of dairy fat were essential to help baby mice keep healthy skin and hair. This is how they discovered the omega-3 and omega-6 fatty acids, essential fatty acids. They called it vitamin F. It didn't stick because they had vitamin A, B, C, D, E for whatever reason. So it went with essential fatty acids. And then time passed. And then in the 1970s, there were two scientists from Denmark. They went to Greenland and they saw that the Inuits there, who ate mainly a marine animal diet, were less likely to have heart disease and diabetes. So they concluded, fish are good for us, and if we eat more fish, well, we won't get heart disease and type T diabetes. And then the fish oil industry kind of went like, oh, like we can, yeah, we're back, we're back. And so what's happened since then is, Jeana Anderson cohen (24:18.28) again. Steph (24:23.03) Lots of, you know, tons and tons of studies have been done on omega-3s. And we got it partially right. Eating fish is healthy for you. And if you are taking a prescription omega-3, studies do appear to support that it can help against heart disease. The sticky point has been fish oil supplements, which fish oil is so fragile and susceptible to rancidity, getting oxidized, that... half, multiple studies have shown that half the Omega-3 supplements on the shelf have actually gone bad. And so today, if you go to National Institutes of Health, they have a summary page on Omega-3 supplements, Deena, and in it they conclude that Omega-3 marine oil supplements don't provide most of the benefits we thought they did. So it was just like this crazy story that's still going. Jeana Anderson cohen (25:17.227) Oh my gosh, Georgian Mildred Burt would be so upset that we let this happen. I think a lot of what you're talking about is going back to our food system and how a lot of things have changed and how even in general, probably the fish oil that kids were taking in the industrial revolution was different and sourced locally and even milk as you're talking about it changing. Steph (25:21.142) Who is it? Jeana Anderson cohen (25:47.219) So we have to now supplement because our food has changed and it just doesn't have what we need, is that right? Steph (25:54.11) Yeah, it's interesting. This, I get the question a lot of, you know, should I take fatty 15 and fish oil? And so we used to answer before the studies, uh, came out that yes, take them both, they're essential fatty acids, of course. And then we did a study where we had a third party compare fatty 15 against pure pharmaceutical grade EPA. You know, the highest bar, what Steph was talking about, cardiovascular benefits, and we found that C15 fatty 15, the exact same ingredient in fatty 15 had more clinical benefits, so it's safer for the cells. When you put a lot of PUFAs, a lot of EPA and DG in the cells, at higher levels, they lyse, and so they're less stable. And so after that study came out, that's published in the Public Library of Science, now we say, hey, if it's fatty-15 versus fish oil, you can take fatty-15 instead, especially if you don't like fish oil because it gets GI upset, and people don't like the fishy burp and things like that. However, if your physician has prescribed you pure EPA, anything like that, we recommend that you continue that and do, you know, what your physician is saying for that condition, which is usually hyper triglyceridemia. Yeah. And, and from the, from the food perspective, yeah, food is absolutely changed. It's also, you know, Gina, like you're saying, it's not local. It's more globally distributed. And so as far as the stability of foods has become increasingly important because you're not just getting it from the local, you know, the local. Whatever fish farm, I guess it would be back then. So that has changed a lot. And I do feel like, or we know, science is advancing. And so what's nice is that if we have all these great technologies that are now being used to be able to find a vaccine for COVID within months, which I previously would have never been thought of. And so now it's about how can we use these advanced technologies to just understand what are the natural components of food? that can help not only treat a disease, but most importantly, keep us healthier for as long as possible. So I do think we need to continue eating healthy diets. We have to exercise, we have to get sleep. I am excited and we're excited about the advancement of science and people turning their efforts into how do we learn from nature and be able to like plus it up to really help provide at a targeted, meaningful level. Steph (28:21.698) Okay. Jeana Anderson cohen (28:21.839) Oh boy, meaty, big question I asked you. I threw that at you. Okay, so C15, you also have the therapeutical side of the business at Fatty 15. And I know you've done a ton of research both for animals and for human beings. So can you talk us through any really exciting findings for C15 for disease treatment or therapeutical use? Steph (28:47.998) Yeah. So yeah, we could talk about understanding that fatty 15 is a supplement and is that meant to treat diseases or? And then all the sciences that discover c15.com. Yes. The disease related science and fatty15.com has the supplement related facts and what we can talk about. So thrilled to talk about C15, our work with C15 and others. And, you know, Deena, like what you're talking about where the excitement of Jeana Anderson cohen (29:01.226) Yes. Steph (29:17.634) pure C15 when it gets put to the test, right, that it is behaving a lot like a pharmaceutical would. So for example, like some of the most, what's critically important is that at, you know, in relevant models, we're able to see that C15 can successfully attenuate, which means like bring help with. type two diabetes as far as bringing down glucose and insulin and inflammation and models of non-alcoholic fatty liver disease. Again, that came out of nowhere. Hypothesis is now that C15 nutritional deficiencies is what caused fatty liver disease to come on in the first place. And so in relevant models, C15 helped treat some of the most critical components of this disease. There's a whole different group. two different groups independently, independent from us, working with C15 and looking at its anti-cancer properties, showing that it stops the proliferation of over seven different types of human cancer cells in cell lines, right, not in people, and in relevant models, like when they combine it with gemcitabine, which is one of the leading treatments for cancer, it helps gemcitabine work better, and it even reverses. Tamoxifen resistance, which is another breast cancer drug or cancer drug, it helps reverse resistance against this drug. So very early, but incredibly exciting, especially given the safety with, you know, matched with efficacy that has, again, these broad benefits that seem magical, but you know, it all makes sense given C15's essentiality. We need it and if we don't have enough, we break down. And so, yeah, we have, there's a clinical trial that's wrapping up now. We can't talk about the results, but the point of the clinical trial was to talk, to look at, you know, the liver related changes and then to look at potential for a deficiency syndrome. And as Steph said, the theory is that our lack of C15 in the world's diet right now is driving a liver disease that has no cure. Steph (31:37.47) And if that's the case, and we'll see, it's still early, but this will be the first deficiency syndrome found since pirates and scurvy. You know, I mean, this will be like a big deal, which is great. Jeana Anderson cohen (31:48.743) Well, we have to think of like a noise we wanna associate with it. Cause pirates we think like, are you know, like C-15 deficiency. I don't know. Maybe we'll do. Yeah. That's it. So yeah, thank you. Thank you. So ends my performance today. And again, obviously all of these exciting therapeutical benefits are different from the supplement benefits. You can work with the doctor. These are being studied for. Steph (31:52.794) Arrr. Whoa. Yeah. You're... Maybe it's a dolphin. Eat, eat, eat. That was better. Jeana Anderson cohen (32:18.603) clinical use. Still exciting, it's just different. Did I do a good job disclaiming? Steph (32:25.048) Nice job. Thank you. Jeana Anderson cohen (32:26.847) Thank you, thank you. Okay, before we move on to what we're loving this, because there anything else you wanna say about Fatty 15? Steph (32:34.598) I think, go ahead, is there something like? Go ahead. So yeah, I mean, we are definitely on a movement, in a movement, writing a movement. Gina, you're now part of it, like it or not. And so it's really about, there's so much information out there about C15. We've had our blinders on because it's in the saturated fat category. and we're working really hard with leaders in longevity and healthy aging and pediatric health to help revisit this world on saturated fats so that we can look at the science, do more science to fully understand, you know, where all the different ways that C15 can come back into your life. So thank you for being part of this movement of helping to get people talking about it. And let's all learn together as we move along. Jeana Anderson cohen (33:29.899) I would like a healthy liver, you know, for the long term. And I also think you should sell merch that says, do more science. I would buy that. Fatty 15, do more science. Okay, so well, actually before I move on to what we're loving this week, I'd be remiss if I didn't mention that Stephanie, you have a TED talk about, save a dolphin, save the world. I'll link to that in the show notes. But is there anything you wanna mention from that TED talk that maybe we haven't talked about in this interview? Steph (33:32.662) We are. Steph (33:37.922) Yeah, yeah. I bet. Yeah. Steph (34:00.386) Oh gosh, just I think we've covered a lot of it just by doing something good for animals under one health. How wonderful it is that they turned right back around and gave us this gift. It's just amazing. So encourage all to you. You never know what you're going to find and just kind of follow the path of doing good and doing well. Yes, and dolphins are... Yeah, go discovery. Jeana Anderson cohen (34:26.943) Go discovering. Steph (34:29.866) The dolphins are getting this supplement as our sea lions, and benefiting from it as well. So we often say at the end of our meetings, save the dolphin, save the world. That's our cheer. Jeana Anderson cohen (34:40.807) Oh, I love that. Oh my gosh, save the cheerleaders, save the world. I get it, I see where you're coming from. Okay, so one thing we're loving this week, you can fall under food, friendship, fitness, or fun. Stephanie, you first. What are you loving this week? Steph (34:44.674) That's a wrap! Good job. We got it. Good job. Steph (34:58.43) All right, I'm loving, I'm going to fun. I'm loving roller coasters. Loving roller coasters. Yeah, yeah. So yeah, so I'm loving roller coasters because, and in part, because our son, it's his birthday coming this weekend. And so we're going to an amusement park filled with the biggest roller coasters. And it's just nice to be reminded Jeana Anderson cohen (35:05.055) Did you say world of fun? Jeana Anderson cohen (35:12.27) Mm-hmm. Steph (35:28.306) that even though I'm 51, that you can just go and have good fun. And you don't have to be 14. You just, you know, so he was a good one. So excited about that for this week to be a 14 year old on, like on roller coaster. Jeana Anderson cohen (35:47.62) Oh, I love that. Did you go on any of the biggest and newest kind of roller coasters? I know those are always very exciting. Steph (35:54.714) Oh yeah, we will be. So it's this coming weekend. So it's anticipation of rollercoaster. Remember those days, just being excited about going. So yeah, we'll tell you how it went. Jeana Anderson cohen (35:57.821) Okay, okay. Jeana Anderson cohen (36:07.539) Okay, I can't wait to hear. Okay, Eric, what about you? I know obviously it'd be easy to have the same good thing. Or. Steph (36:14.206) Yes, yes, I'm doing that. I'm also excited to be outside because we're in San Diego, near the Dolphins, right? It's really nice. And so I actually got a new mountain bike, which I do every 8 to 10 years. So, it happened to be that. So I'm looking forward to riding with my friends out on some of the San Diego trails here. Not over the weekend, but maybe the next. That's great! So, sometime soon! Jeana Anderson cohen (36:37.107) Oh, that's exciting. Oh my god, what an outdoor lifestyle you Californians have. Okay, well, what I'm loving this week is so it's what like has a studio of the month every month that we work out at with our ambassadors across the country as often as possible in the studio. This month is titled boxing club. So I haven't boxed in a while. And I Steph (36:41.279) I'm sorry. Jeana Anderson cohen (37:01.651) boxed last night and it was exactly what I needed. I was feeling a little anxious yesterday and it honestly just gave me what I needed to get through it. So boxing is what I'm loving. Steph (37:11.255) Oh, I love it. Hardcore. Yeah. It's great. Jeana Anderson cohen (37:13.595) Yeah, so hardcore, so fighting. OK, before we wrap this up, tell us where listeners can find you on the Internet and what they can expect from Fatty 15. Steph (37:26.262) Find us the supplement at www.fatty15.com and sign up. You can join our email list. Additionally, when you buy the product, what you'll see is we have no plastic. We have a glass bottle, bamboo top. Everything's recyclable. Good for you. Good for the earth, too. Then as you join us through your journey, you get emails about what's happening to your body at day 10, at day 20. It's a very educational experience that we have that we think... Sounds like people really enjoy that. Jeana Anderson cohen (37:57.919) Make sure you check your promotions folder. That's where mine were by the way, Eric. And move them into your main folder because they're good emails. This has been another episode of We Got Goals which is in a sweatlife.com production and another thing that's better with friends. Thanks to Ryan Deffitt for editing. Thanks to Steph and Eric for joining me. And thanks to all of you, our listeners for subscribing, rating and reviewing wherever you get your podcasts. Goodbye. Steph (38:04.894) Nice. Steph (38:26.006) Thanks, Gina. Jeana Anderson cohen (38:31.423) That was so fun! Steph (38:33.37) Oh, you're good. You're good, lady. Yeah. We got to the end, and I was surprised you didn't have boxing gloves on. I could have just pulled up the boxing gloves. I don't know what I did. It's great. Jeana Anderson cohen (38:35.139) Oh, thanks for teaching me something. Um, I. Jeana Anderson cohen (38:46.836) Oh, I did. They're back there. Jeana Anderson cohen (38:52.143) right there. No, I had I wrapped my hands. I wrapped my hands forever. So I wrapped my hands again and I put on boxing.