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Hey, it's Jeffrey Craner. We are hitting
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the road again on September 26 with our
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new Night Vale live show, The Attic. Seasoul
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discovers slides from an old family road trip,
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which at first seemed fun and joyful, but began
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to change into something strange and dangerous.
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The show tells a tale of childhood memories
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warping through the lens of a cursed slide
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projector, a shape-shifting creepy doll,
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and of course, the normal dispatches from
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Night Vale's community radio station. It
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stars Seasoul Baldwin featuring Symphony Sanders,
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myself, and original live score
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by Disparition. Also, the
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inimitable Jessica Hayworth, who designs
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all of our live show posters and original artwork
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for each Night Vale episode, created some
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gorgeous slides for this show. Our
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first tour leg is in Woodstock, New York on September 26
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and 27, and Philly on the 28th,
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Brooklyn on the 29th and 30th, will
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City on October 8, Lawrence, Kansas
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you. We'll
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always be here for you. Right
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here, next to you. Only
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inches away from your face. Always.
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Welcome to Night Vale.
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Happens
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tomorrow Right?
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This Place from
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pe Jenny It's
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like a Be quiet
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and out of Duo This Place Al
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Basquou lives at 831 Lombardy Street in
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a dilapidated Victorian mansion
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at the top of the hill. You know
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the one.
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It's right next to the old Greek Orthodox
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Church, which was converted into an H&M
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back in 2003. No
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one knows when Luca arrived in
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Night Vale. He has lived here longer
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than anyone. He
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does not say much, but he is not a hermit.
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Luca enjoys seeing plays and
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movies. He recently attended
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a Night Vale Community Theatre production of
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Godspell. He lip synced along
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to all the big musical numbers like
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One Day More, Surry with the Fringe
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on Top, and Mr. Brightside. From
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the stage, the cast could see Luca wearing
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his large, dark sunglasses and
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curling his fragile
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body
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underneath his black overcoat. The
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coat is too big for Luca, though
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at one time it was not.
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He's grown smaller with age, as
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do we all. We grow and grow
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and grow until
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we do not. And then we
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slowly shrink, like
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leftover balloons from a long ago
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celebration. never
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wished to purchase a new coat. He
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likes this coat. It has a cozy
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lining that cools his skin. The
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lapels have the perfect shape,
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sharp but subtle angles. Plus,
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the pockets. The pockets
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are small, which counterintuitively
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is a good thing. We think
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we want many large pockets, but
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this allows us too much freedom to carry too
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much material. The pockets eventually
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stretch and sag under
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the strain. And our coats begin
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to look sad and
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frumpy. Luca's coat
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is crisp and neat, though
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it does appear too big. Luca
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does not
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remember how long he's had the coat, but
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he remembers he bought it in Prussia sometime
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before he met Henri. Henri
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with his long neck and short
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temper. Henri with his thin
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cigarillos and thick hair. Henri
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who changed Luca's life.
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For the better, for the worse.
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Who can say? Luca
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can, though he never has. Not
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allowed anyway.
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Luca does not attend church. Even
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when the church next door, Saint
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Demetrios still held services,
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Luca did not go. He wished
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the congregation well in
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the way we wish, say, dock workers
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in Italy or bank tellers in
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Mozambique well. We know
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nothing of them, nor of their business, yet
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we hope all humans achieve enough happiness
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to be able to share it with others. He
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was not sad when the church left his neighborhood
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for a new home on West Jackson Avenue.
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He was not sad when the Swedish clothing
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giant moved into the basilica near his
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house, though he doesn't shop there. Somewhere
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between indifference and good for them
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is how Luca feels about it all.
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It didn't matter because Luca's closets
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are brimming with clothes, some
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he has acquired over a lifetime. Some
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he has made himself.
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Luca has Nehru suits, riding
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boots, silk shirts, and cotton
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cravats. He owns several
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cloaks, but they have been out of style for decades.
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Perhaps centuries. Sometimes if you
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call a cloak a cape, no one will say
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anything, but they know the difference. We
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can all tell. So
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he doesn't wear his cloaks, though he wishes
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they'd become fashionable again. He
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loves the weight of them on his shoulders.
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He loves the way they catch the air as he
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walks. He loves the security
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they bring, lightly cocooning his body
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as he moves through crowds. He
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wears his overcoat instead. It
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is the closest thing he has to a cloak without
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drawing attention to himself. Yet
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Luca always draws attention
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to himself despite his best efforts
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to be a shadow.
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He's very old, with a few thin
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strands of jet black hair pulled
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back tight across his wide
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scalp. His eyes are sunken,
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the skin around them
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dark. His teeth have
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grown long, as have his jowls.
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No one judges Luca for his aged
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appearance. We are all aware of what
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age will do to our bodies, though the future
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is an abstract concept.
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Will we become ugly? Will
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we become ill?
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Will we become infirmed of body
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and or mind?
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Yes. Yes. And
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yes.
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Or at least, hopefully, we tell ourselves.
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For the alternative is to truncate existence.
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Some might say a short healthy life is better
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than a long spiral downward, though that
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is an existential argument for another
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time. We can all
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hope to be as active as Luca in
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our elder years. He rides his bike
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every morning at Sundown around
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Grove Park. He spends many
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Friday nights at Antarctica.
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the most popular nightclub in Night
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Vale, in the heart of the dance
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district. Luca does not dance,
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not anymore. He does not have
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the energy, but he loves being
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around people. He loves the
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electric atmosphere of youthful
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physicality, of the limitless
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imagination of the human body.
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It's the same reason he loves watching baseball and
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circus performers and traffic cops.
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At Antarctica, Luca orders
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a dry Manhattan with a lemon
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peel. He drinks it slowly.
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And when he is done, he listens to the DJ
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with his eyes closed for about 15 minutes.
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Sometimes others think he is asleep and
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sometimes they are right. But mostly,
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he is
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feeling the beat move through his
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bones. He
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is savoring the final flavor of
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the rye and aromatic bitters on
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the back of his tongue. He is committing
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his emotions to memory through the smell
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of sweat,
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booze, and pheromones. And
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when he opens his eyes, he orders
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a highball with a mint sprig garnish.
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It is always these two drinks.
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He never finishes the highball before standing,
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tipping the bartender generously, and
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walking back to his bike, the only
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bike parked out front of the club.
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He does not lock his bike because people are
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inherently good, even if they sometimes
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do bad things. No one
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has ever stolen his bicycle, though some
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people have done worse. Still,
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Luca believes the world is better for
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having humanity. Sometimes
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children in the neighborhood ring Luca's doorbell.
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He doesn't answer it anymore because he knows they're
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daring each other to ring it. His
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is a haunted house, of course.
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At least according to childhood lore. He
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used to answer it many years ago. It
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was so long ago. 30 years?
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80 even.
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Whenever it was, it was then that
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he learned that the children feared him, that it
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was all a game
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of dare. Once
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he stopped child and asked him why he was
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scared. The child was too frightened
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to answer and so Luca told him,
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I'm not a monster. I'm
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not a ghost. I'm simply an
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old man. My house is old
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too. It creaks and groans
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like my own body. Its hollows
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are dark with shadow and wear like mine,
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but its soul is light. Its
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structure is sound. Its spirit
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is free. And that too
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is me.
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He said all of this to the child and the child
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began to cry. Luca frowned,
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fearing he had further frightened the child. But
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I can tell you dear listeners that this child
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cried because he was confused.
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He did not understand how something so terrible
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to see could be so gentle to hear.
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Horror resides in the inscrutable. And
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the child was not frightened of Luca. I know
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this because I was
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that child. The child was
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frightened
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of the unknown.
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Learning is scary. The
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shifting tectonic plates of conventional
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wisdom can unnerve even the
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most grounded among us.
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The child ran away. He would
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learn from this experience, but not directly
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and not immediately. He
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would have many more misunderstandings,
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many more selfish exchanges
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with gentle people who only appeared
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monstrous.
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The child is still learning.
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As are we all, I hope.
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It's too simplistic to say Luca
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is a good man. That he is not
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a monster. He is
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a monster. Not only metaphorically,
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but Henri?
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Henri with his black beard
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and white teeth. Henri with
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his slow walk and fast.
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talk, Henri was
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literally a
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monster. They
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met in Brussels. Luca doesn't remember
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the year, though it was well before the war. Henri
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approached Luca at intermission of Miss
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Julie, August Strinberg's
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expressionist masterpiece about a young
12:17
woman who must save her kingdom from perpetual
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winter by confronting the Snow Queen.
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Henri with his common speech and
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elitist shoes, Henri
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with his fat wallet and thin temper,
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Henri bought Luca drinks
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and they talked late into the night about the great
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artists of the day, Matisse,
12:39
Ibsen, Springsteen, and
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so on. They began to meet regularly
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at the theater and soon became close
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friends. Luca loved
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and admired Henri. Henri
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with his fake gold and sincere
12:53
apologies, Henri with his
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loud laugh and quiet
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gait. But Luca
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also knew that Henri
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wasn't a man, nor a woman,
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nor a person at all. It
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was not apparent in looks, but in action.
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Henri was something else entirely.
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Henri came out only at night.
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He did not drink water nor eat food,
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not that Luca ever saw.
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Luca knew that Henri also did
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not go to a church. But unlike
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Luca, who simply did not choose to go
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to church and did not care any which way about
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religion, Henri aboard
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the notion of it. He grunted
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and spasmed at the mention, sometimes
13:38
even at the sight of, a cathedral
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or temple or mosque.
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Vampire, Luca said one night.
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You're a vampire,
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he repeated, unafraid of the word, as
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silly as it sounded to say so openly.
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Vampire.
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And Henri nodded without
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saying a word. When Gris held out his palm,
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Luca placed his hand upon Henri's
14:04
oré, lifted it to his own
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mouth, and kissed it. It
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was an agreement. A pact.
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Luca would live in Henri's home.
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He would run errands, invite guests,
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and clean
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what needed to be cleaned. There
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was a lot to clean. Well
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more than what a human employer would require.
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Everything Henri asked of Luca was
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more than a human would require. Luca
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had the stomach for it, though it took
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years to achieve that level of fortitude,
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to be able to abide by Henri's
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deeds. Many mornings,
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alone in the sunlit mansion while
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Henri slept, or whatever
14:47
state he was in, Luca would
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vomit. He was not ill,
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physically. The vomit was a kind
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of exorcism, a removal
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of his own humanity. The
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release of angels, of conscience.
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Morality was exciting his
15:04
body. His soul needed room
15:08
for a monster.
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Luca never killed a person, but
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he knowingly led many to be
15:14
killed. He justified
15:16
this by imagining cows led to slaughter.
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Their deaths are painless. Their
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deaths are useful. Their
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deaths are the order of nature.
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We could all be so lucky to have served a purpose
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as glorious as the circle of life,
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and to receive the reward of leaving our bodies
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without disease, rot, discomfort,
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or ruin. Rationalization
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is one of man's most clever and
15:43
most dangerous inventions.
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And Luca knew it, but not
15:49
right away.
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He would not fully comprehend what he was doing
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for
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years. Luca
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served Henri
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well. Henri. with
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his girlish face and childish
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humor. Henri with his steady
16:05
hunger and erratic taste.
16:08
Henri had to move
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for the people of Brussels grew wise to a monster
16:14
among them. So the pair moved
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to London and to Lisbon
16:19
and to Marrakech and to Baja,
16:21
California and eventually to
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Night Vale. They grew
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to love the dry open plain
16:29
of deserts. Henri and
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Luca, both from crowded European
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streets that grew cold and
16:36
rainy in the winters, sweltering
16:38
and malodorous in the summers. The
16:41
desert is a place where people
16:43
can hide. The
16:45
desert is a place where one can see trillions
16:48
of miles into the universe, yet
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still live
16:52
invisibly. And above
16:54
all, the desert has cool,
16:56
cloudless evenings. It's
16:59
the perfect weather. I've
17:26
got some questions to see burning in me, just
17:29
dying to be answered. And
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as you can see, we've got all
17:35
eternity. It's not like you've got some place
17:37
to go. I just want to know,
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just so badly, I want to know. Please,
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I need to know. How
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tomorrow will be for
20:03
the more it will be To
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how that singular power
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if you wanted an hour
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There won't be any
20:13
event at all Tomorrow
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to fall
20:21
I don't want to hear
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it But I'll just let you serve me Lord,
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oh my God, oh my God To
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be so real, so
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here, so now so
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small, so small
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Just want to end it End
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it all And
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so, Luca and Henri
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lived in Night Vale, inside
21:14
their brand new Victorian mansion
21:17
on a small hill miles
21:20
from the village.
21:21
Over the years, the house and
21:24
Luca grew old, as
21:26
new homes and young businesses sprouted
21:28
up all around them.
21:30
Yet Henri did not appear to
21:32
age. Henri with his angelic
21:35
body and demonic soul,
21:37
Henri with his bottomless
21:39
appetite and shallow personality.
21:42
Henri needed human
21:45
blood,
21:46
and Luca would get it for him.
21:50
Luca would bring theatre patrons,
21:53
restaurant diners, mail
21:55
delivery persons, even tourists
21:58
back to their home his way.
21:59
home and introduced them to Henri.
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Luca would serve vintage wine, prepare,
22:06
roast quail, play classical
22:08
music. Luca would amuse the
22:10
guests with pleasant stories.
22:14
Henri used to help with the preparation
22:16
and the entertainment, but as the years
22:18
went by, Henri arrived
22:20
later and later for dinners,
22:23
and eventually he only came
22:25
just as the conversation was getting
22:27
good.
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And Henri
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with his eager needs and indifferent
22:34
presence, Henri with his fastidious
22:37
dreams and careless manners,
22:39
Henri would appear as if from nowhere
22:42
behind the guest
22:43
and bite down.
22:45
The guest would struggle and moan,
22:49
only to eventually fall limp into
22:51
Henri's arms like a sleepy
22:53
child. Henri would
22:56
gulp and glug, he
22:58
would slurp and suck,
23:01
he would belch and burp,
23:04
and then he would return
23:06
to his lair, to his pit,
23:08
to his tomb.
23:11
It was difficult to let go of this
23:14
partnership. From the outside
23:16
looking in, it is easy to say,
23:18
get out of there, Luca, or you
23:21
can do better, but
23:22
relationships are never so easy.
23:26
He had a rapport with Henri. Luca
23:28
had spent nearly his whole life in service
23:30
to a vampire. It was almost
23:33
as if Luca himself
23:35
were a vampire.
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Though deep down he knew he was not. But
23:40
he couldn't say it. He
23:42
was afraid to say the word human.
23:46
It sounded so silly. And
23:48
what would he do by himself? Alone.
23:53
He was getting old. Would he marry?
23:56
Have kids. Get a job? How
23:59
do you explain this?
23:59
And that gap in your resume, no,
24:02
no, no, this was easier. Luca
24:05
and Henri had a way, and
24:08
it afforded him comfort, health,
24:10
fine things, and the comfy
24:13
illusion of freedom.
24:17
One night a young woman
24:20
named Rochelle came home with
24:22
Luca. They had met while dancing.
24:25
I say young, but she was in her mid-40s. Luca
24:28
was older by at least five years. Perhaps 25,
24:31
it's unclear. But
24:34
it was a natural connection they had.
24:37
Luca poured her some wine, and they ate
24:39
cheese and talked while Duke
24:42
Ellington played on the Victrola. Rochelle
24:46
loved Luca's humor and his
24:47
casual confidence. She
24:50
liked his full head of jet black
24:52
hair with its many curls
24:55
and tufts.
24:56
She liked the way he looked at her. She
24:59
only felt a sting for a moment.
25:03
Then ecstasy. Then
25:07
nothing.
25:08
Luca did not understand what was happening at first,
25:10
for it was dark in the house. Only
25:12
a single candle shook its soft
25:15
light across their faces. But
25:17
then he saw a pale white hand
25:20
and a thin red streak on
25:22
her neck. Without thinking, he struck
25:24
Henri. Henri looked confused
25:27
then, hurt then angry.
25:30
Very very angry. But
25:33
Luca did not stop to process this. He
25:35
held his handkerchief over the candle and
25:37
then waved
25:38
the flames in Henri's face.
25:41
He backed Henri down the stairs,
25:43
back into his den. Luca
25:46
did not cry when he buried Rochelle.
25:49
He seethed. Eight!
25:52
And he knew he had to be free,
25:55
which would be the most painful choice of all. He
25:58
removed a single.
25:59
Ballaster from the central staircase,
26:02
he carved it down to a point
26:06
and descended. If
26:09
anyone on Lombardy Street was awake
26:11
and listening carefully that night, they
26:14
would have heard a high-pitched scream.
26:18
They would have heard the soul of a monster
26:20
being dissipated
26:22
and burned.
26:23
They would have assumed it was nothing more than
26:26
hungry coyote howling for a hunt.
26:29
Rationalization, after all, is
26:31
one of man's most clever inventions.
26:36
Luca lives alone and
26:39
has for decades. It has
26:41
taken all of that time to feel
26:43
truly free. Though
26:45
he is finally happy, despite his
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stiff back and sore teeth,
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despite his shallow breath and
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crooked posture,
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he loves
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to ride his bike, to watch
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people dance, to drink
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his drinks, and to see his shows.
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He never married, never got a job,
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nor had kids, but he's found
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a life that is his own. When
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he eats, he thinks he
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is replenishing his soul, returning
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it to what once was banished.
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And perhaps he is. Luca
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Albescu, after all,
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is the only one who can keep himself
27:30
human.
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Stay tuned next for an actual
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coyote howling for a hunt.
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Good night, night veil. Good
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night.
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Welcome to Nightvale is a production of Nightvale
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Presents. It is written by Joseph Fink
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and Jeffrey Cranor and produced by Disparition.
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The voice of Nightvale is Cecil Baldwin.
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Original music by Disparition. All
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of it can be found at disparition.bandcamp.com.
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Hi, I'm Jeffrey Craner, and I wanted to tell you
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about one of my other podcasts, Random Number
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Generator Horror Podcast Number 9. So
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the thing is, my friend Cecil Baldwin, the
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voice of Night Vale loves horror
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one film at a time in a random order.
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