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In here, we pour whiskey.

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Whispe, whiskey, whiskey, whiskey. Oh,

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that creature in the ginger field. Sturdy

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ginger. Like vampires,

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the ginger gene in the cut. Ginger's a

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pugas. You owe me $5 for the whiskey, $75

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for the horse. Ginger's

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a hell no. This whiskey

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is excellent. Ginger. I

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like gingers. Ladies

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and gentlemen, welcome back to Whiskey Ginger. My guest

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today is one of my favorite people. I don't

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know if I say that for all my guests,

0:30

but I mean it once again today. It's Rob

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Riggles. What? Come on. The Riggster, baby. Give me

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a little cheers. We're sipping a little sauce today.

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This is wonderful. And this is some nice smooth

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sauce. Ooh, ooh. Man,

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I like it so much. Man, I

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was commenting earlier. Your

0:47

whiskey game is super tight. I got a whole cart

0:49

there. We should put it on camera at some point,

0:51

but I have been collecting over the

0:53

years. This is actually about half the size. He's seen

0:55

it at my house. I have probably,

0:58

yeah, maybe double to triple this at

1:00

home. That's amazing. I've gotten gifts from

1:02

really high-end collectors that do me well,

1:04

that know way more than I know,

1:07

but this has been an amalgamation

1:09

of over the years of doing this show.

1:11

People suggesting and or

1:13

bringing me bottles and all that stuff.

1:15

That's fantastic. Kansas City's got a whiskey

1:18

maker, Jay Rieger. Jay

1:20

Rieger. Rieger. Shout out to the Rieger. Yeah, shout out

1:22

to Rieger. I used to be in business with those

1:24

guys, but then I was

1:27

doing a vodka thing and it got all convoluted,

1:29

but I still believe in them. Yeah, you do.

1:32

I believe in them. I like them. They're good

1:34

men. They make

1:36

a good quality. What's it called? Bourbon. Jay

1:38

Rieger. Jay Rieger is the brand as well. That's the brand.

1:40

Get yourself some Rieger, I guess. Get out there and

1:42

have a sip-sap of it. Let me see what the

1:45

bottle looks like. Is it a sexy bottle? That means

1:47

something to me. It's got good heritage. It's got good

1:49

lineage. Yeah, it does? Yeah, I think

1:51

so. The

1:54

last time you and I saw each other, we

1:56

were in Hawaii. That's right. So

1:58

we sound like high rollers when you... Well, it

2:00

was a charity event it was and we were doing

2:02

good for the kids Which is very nice and I

2:05

don't mind flying to Hawaii to play in a charity

2:07

event for kids Yeah, if it's giving money

2:09

for kids, I'm all about it. We're all about the

2:11

kids man. We're all about helping the kids Yeah, the

2:13

right thing. Yeah, that's never in question. No speaking of

2:15

which I saw a billboard last night at one of

2:17

those LED trucks of

2:20

kids who have been abducted and A

2:22

few of them I recognized a

2:25

few of those guys. Yeah. Yeah some of the guys that

2:27

I think Cuz I'm a

2:29

part of a kid kidnapping LED truck. I didn't know

2:31

what you meant. Oh, yeah Yeah, so I was envisioning

2:33

like one of those escalades that have the glow under

2:36

no, no, no This wasn't a party bus

2:38

in Vegas. That's really crazy. That's the great thing that popped in

2:40

my mind Yeah, but a few of the kids I'd seen cuz

2:42

I'm part of a group of people that kidnapped kids and it's

2:45

nice that they Some of our

2:47

top picks well on the board finally get in the billing Terrible

2:52

work. I'm just kidding. No, but it was a

2:54

huge truck last night. It was like that it

2:56

was insane all four sides had a picture of

2:59

Missing kids on it. I was like, I guess that

3:01

is the move now cuz milk cartons aren't doing they're

3:03

not cutting it anymore No, and they've gone away from

3:05

milk cartons and more to the you know, the big

3:07

gallon plastic things And by the way, that's a waste

3:10

of milk. We don't need all that to just put

3:12

it on there You never get to it and now

3:14

you're never gonna finish. It's always gonna spoil. There's always

3:16

a little bit left boy Does it

3:18

stink? Yeah, it's stinky. So I once

3:20

I'm my little child They're older now,

3:22

but when they were little spilled milk

3:25

in the back, you hit my car

3:27

you hit him But they

3:29

didn't tell anybody okay, and I didn't

3:31

see it right away And I

3:33

get back in the car, you know, and it it

3:36

it was the devil it was it

3:38

was the devil's a-hole I

3:40

mean really really bad and it

3:42

there was I scrubbed and tried

3:44

to clean nothing taking that out I just

3:47

It got into stuff man.. So there is crying over

3:49

spilled milk. They're in the house. Oh, Lulu is yeah,

3:51

cry over spilled Milk because it don't I want to

3:53

know that you did it. Was It a car that

3:55

you love too? Or Is it A? It wasn't even

3:57

my car. Oh My god, that's even more fun. My.

4:00

Dad Cadillac so them a derelict what in

4:02

a goddamn I'm like a lot of i

4:04

don't know. there's a danger zone, wasn't a

4:06

scarf Skoda gotta get a day scale don't

4:09

gotta get a lotta you know the skull

4:11

slow to get a day and agriculture rosati

4:13

your chances of zoom somebody hit it mom

4:15

probably yeah well she's going to do it

4:18

if anybody had to go to doctors were

4:20

mr that was a big that was a

4:22

big thing is suffered when I get way

4:24

to the.i empty all my ponytail because I'm

4:27

I'm It's such a lot like that cause

4:29

like five. Maybe ten pounds like it's like

4:31

three of us are top twenty twenty five pounds.

4:33

Wrote this Fisher says thirty pass through thirty browser.

4:35

Dude the guy was like do you want to

4:38

see robe and I said well I'd like to

4:40

know my real wait years. It's still your real

4:42

weight as I know it's not know what I'm

4:44

I'm always has. it's because I'm over. unlike six

4:47

to your your topic one yet these are just

4:49

a lot of material. Yeah the images are heavy.

4:51

That's right. they're not to pound or sweatpants. I

4:53

like that we do in this is only people

4:56

that that have are on the verge of being

4:58

fat. Yeah about that would be like. Due

5:00

to put their shoes an upper to see need the

5:02

extra pounds you know there's really go in there that

5:04

zola. Can I put stuff in my pocket to get

5:06

the wait up? Yeah yeah He gave me on the

5:08

weight thing and then we went through the whole. Rigmarole.

5:11

That they the questions and ice. I lean

5:13

on models of my seat when they do

5:15

the height yeah be just a maybe get

5:17

a half. it's more just a little as

5:20

I maxell ago rifle extensive as much as

5:22

I can have a long game. so the

5:24

when they do the body measurements whatever the

5:26

like doing my party a high in on

5:28

all that stuff. But. Yeah, I

5:30

empty my pockets because I feel sick dynamics

5:33

the clothing I'm wearing. sweatshirt, girl shoes, Everything

5:35

I've got all these are man's eyes closed

5:37

or her nuts and pansies. and seven. He

5:39

got to give me seven. They're like it's

5:42

three. The three max. Yeah, oh and a

5:44

half. Maybe maybe three. Mostly to an

5:46

ass, but then they get you in on. They do that

5:48

whole thing where they let you feel good about one thing

5:50

and and you feel awful about everything else. Who.

5:52

Like blood pressure bullet not bad, not

5:54

bad and is i moved closer. This

5:56

is really bad as your Ldl or

5:58

whatever it right. Right Because one the

6:01

good ones bad. Yeah, I don't know which is

6:03

where it's but they're always telling me you're fine

6:05

here, you're fighting. but in this is bad and

6:07

I know it's I always know it's gonna be

6:09

in the is a danger zone. Sure, right where

6:11

I'm I'm I'm or elevated beyond the leveled elevator.

6:13

That's what they say has because you know he

6:15

likes shirts. I do what he wanted to do.

6:17

You know I'm not. I'm I'm not a master

6:19

chef that I don't like things that taste good.

6:21

I don't like it off. A

6:24

don't like us I thought of

6:26

fried chicken or like burgers alone.

6:28

dress alike trash and. I like different

6:30

sauces are like much different sauces. I need

6:32

my honey mustard, my ranch or for it

6:34

or the barbecue. Whenever I have a look

6:36

Muscles is to yeah so hard it's it's

6:38

hard to eat how you supposed to does

6:40

that. We've got a sausage roar You have

6:43

a sauce draw the house nurse at all

6:45

Luna. Do you have a saucer night too?

6:47

Young. Correct.

6:49

There you go There it as yeah. We

6:51

had hoped we had an orgasm and much

6:53

of Fillet Sauce Lose a limit on V.

6:55

I gotta hope you're gonna have saved And

6:57

I Alison I'm I'm a connoisseur of ranch

6:59

in a restaurant. Grade ranch is important to

7:01

me. I don't do Hidden Valley anymore I

7:04

used to do and I could maybe depict

7:06

arid into it. But. Again, that was like.

7:08

When. I was trying and it was a

7:10

failure. I need retrograde ranch really. And and

7:12

Cheesecake Factory has the best ranch or you

7:14

put us on to know how? take Jack.

7:16

Kickstarter has number one ranch. Youth has top

7:18

grade ranch. Now there's other greater it is

7:21

out there. Sure. But it's upgrade

7:23

right and even get it in a big mason

7:25

jar. You get to play the pacific and it's

7:27

good for like two weeks and I'll use like

7:29

they fall at the I'll assign others there. There's

7:31

a mall that I eat of the cheesecake I

7:34

too much it but I stop in and it's

7:36

it's they know who I am. Want to come

7:38

in there like Reznor? I'm like yeah gimme gimme

7:40

a major Bbq, pick up a pine a ranch

7:42

on the way home that's awesome and give the

7:44

ingredients. Elizabeth's better be great about the internet. There's

7:47

the crackdown. Get this? Let me tell you some

7:49

that my wife makes us homemade ranch at the

7:51

house and it's great. It's restaurant, it's great. but

7:53

the problem is it's almost too. I'm. Yeah.

7:56

What is the word I'm looking for? Like to call

7:58

an airy? It's like to home. Okay, are you

8:00

want some of the secret jazz? didn't I don't know

8:03

some of the subtitle by the industrial level. good as

8:05

on the trip from the ceiling that was in there.

8:07

That's probably what makes ranch really good. You know they.

8:09

they have a big part of a refer to as

8:11

of looking up growth and arrows at it as an

8:14

hour to analyze back that up that was like a

8:16

yard and. Gotta remind me

8:18

that document. Remember the Bluebell controversy? Do

8:20

remember this. That's where I got that

8:22

from. Bluebell Ice Cream. Yeah years ago they

8:24

had a pro. They had a controversy with

8:27

the had a outbreak of whatever it was.

8:29

Well. With what was her? broker. Yeah.

8:32

Within twenty twenty they paid nineteen million and

8:34

play guilty to charges a ship contaminated products

8:36

that are bring with stereos and they said

8:38

it was from the ceiling in the factory

8:41

that's where I got that from it was

8:43

dripping into the ice cream from decided that

8:45

they didn't know though no no no they

8:47

knew who fought with it was over. The

8:49

workers were like the conditions were ridiculous to

8:51

the ventilation wasn't good enough said complained about

8:53

at all but the higher ups are like

8:55

shot I've not now it's ice cream. That.

8:58

Walk it off as really the best thing to do

9:00

when you hear about a problem is just pretend you

9:02

didn't hear the actually that's what every company united States

9:04

does not what. but like every road nurses you know

9:07

what it is. This is weak as managers are like

9:09

want to deal with a problem today? Look man I'm

9:11

has ever. Done. Some of the

9:13

listeria out of the chocolate chocolate

9:15

jesuits. I'll be at the seas

9:17

exaggerating. What?

9:20

Is your. Because I've gotten addicted.

9:23

Man I used and not really love ice cream.

9:25

wasn't nothing for it was I'd have a wants

9:27

enough Now we have to keep it in the

9:29

freezer. have to have ice cream and I haven't

9:32

Almost every night we are such kindred spirits. I

9:34

I, I have a this is embarrassing shit. Almost

9:36

every night I have a truck insects after the

9:38

wall. Almost every night had voted out so bad

9:41

that my my girl for him to team up.

9:43

There is one A she's like.

9:46

Hey. I respect that. You love

9:48

this ice cream. Yeah, but. Could

9:50

we talk about? maybe just to? And Monday

9:52

was a friend of a sudden. You really

9:54

go on thin ice in your state and

9:56

maybe I'll put that shit on. I see.

9:58

I gotta tell you something. He looks like

10:00

she doesn't have chocolate shakes every night. That's

10:02

what. See it's well she's and great. Yeah

10:04

yeah she does it Would I can see

10:06

her judging this behavior? Nothing but so many.

10:08

She does make the sake that like at

10:10

the end of today you them or nothing

10:12

of blenders work and a half hour we

10:14

go. The sound of that really get ah

10:16

but. He mean here

10:19

and now I'm ip address it up. Sometimes I'm

10:21

like just a little like a baby. you're not.

10:23

Look at me, Get on the on the healthy

10:25

truth about blueberries on myself, who else and a

10:28

half of. What do I? Say

10:30

how see as he's Isis the six or

10:32

seven the most of the border where but

10:34

I'm like I'm working on a bailout. right?

10:36

While you are you're making strides. Show him

10:39

the video of of of Buzzi Spaghetti. That.

10:41

We saw yesterday. This is like the booty

10:43

make and spaghetti. This. May be one of

10:46

the funniest things I think I've ever seen because whenever

10:48

I feel like I do something. Yeah,

10:50

low boot look lobos a do and spaghetti whenever

10:52

I feel that whenever I feel like. I've

10:55

done something incorrectly looking too much

10:57

sugar he's putting into that successor

11:00

granulated saw his but I don't

11:02

A bag of what is ruined

11:04

enough. it's all areas. But.

11:07

Here's the okay. Here's the thing. That

11:10

it could be a bell my it's gotta be of

11:12

it. But I gotta tell you he's wild and hilarious.

11:15

And boozy make spaghetti with a half a

11:17

bag of granulated sugar. But here's a different

11:19

floor the would go but god damn about

11:21

the. But here's

11:24

the difference of like are like look, you and

11:26

I are closer and a certainly than him and

11:28

he immediately. Mccaughan, who's twenty four, goes. I.

11:30

Bet I bet you would slaps. I bet

11:32

you it's good. So if the kids generation

11:35

thanks this might be pretty good. And

11:37

I was. I absolutely know the open

11:39

minded. He's a little to open minded.

11:41

Yeah you ear. Bud watching

11:44

the video is watching right now. I feel

11:46

the information or my body. Or yeah, you're

11:48

that you got. I believe what I did.

11:50

that. it does now. But. It's for its

11:52

remark I think I've never seen it. But so I said to

11:54

him we went over the arguments. Is. This for

11:56

the interactive, he's very funny and just held

11:58

that. but also ah. The public. Spaces

12:02

and this is what is is what I do

12:04

play for. Get Like is what I'd do if

12:06

he's all business like. Is it out as a

12:08

week of a nod to grin. Wow, that's right.

12:10

this is who I do this on either of

12:12

those, right? This is a livestream right? So we

12:14

saw what we thought. They saw what we saw.

12:17

There was no. He. Didn't do another take of

12:19

us. Now do you have like when I was a

12:21

kid I remember I got yelled at because my mom. For.

12:23

A while was like no sugary cereals because we

12:26

were eating too much bullshit. Yes. So she took

12:28

it away from us. And then will we do

12:30

we? We just put i mean spoonful of sugar

12:32

into Cheerios. I mean we would literally dump have

12:34

a job. So as I've gotten older, I.

12:37

Still have a few things that I over indulge like that

12:39

you have any little secret ones where you put too much

12:41

sugar in the saying: are you. I was

12:43

A. I was a. Tons.

12:45

Of sugar and materials guy. yeah I'm I'm

12:47

that's where the milk was just sugar yup

12:50

and and I could actually see the the

12:52

oh yeah I love it when I leader

12:54

they get their the sugar make it through

12:56

a like a good mix and I've smash

12:58

down quick before you know when you feel

13:00

your teeth of on the melted regular yeah

13:02

trashy that I've I've since tried to. Get.

13:05

Away from it but like I was. same with a

13:07

the shake thing I. Can't ice cream is my

13:09

I can't give it up. I could give up

13:11

like candy bars. And. Pop

13:14

fine I'll add on ammo at her I'm or

13:16

other I never was a sweet sky I mean

13:18

either I never was sweets I did I buy

13:20

do chocolate as got me strong as got the

13:22

hook in chocolate truffles got the hook and me

13:25

ice cream has got to hook in me He

13:27

has taught a really really does I I'd need

13:29

it after most meals me too I know it's

13:31

really weird I say I don't know why it's

13:33

doing. I blame the pandemic of I'm being honest

13:36

that's what I that's what I really needed are

13:38

down on and I really owe me and Art

13:40

ice cream on pandemic I just couldn't I was

13:42

like well we're here. We're not going to go

13:44

out for a dinner. We. Cooked we did all

13:47

this work we clean shouldn't mean for us

13:49

I I I got into reward myself with

13:51

a treat. Yeah and. That pandemics.

13:54

I. Did I really doubled up Or my

13:56

ice cream? And yeah, during that timeframe and

13:58

now I can get out. And I

14:00

you start now if a man and that's fine.

14:02

Honestly, who cares? Yeah, I mean listen, this is

14:05

all the work that I could be around that

14:07

long from now are now so just savor It

14:09

does not be a couple vices in your life.

14:12

This. Yeah! Wonderful little little song cautious

14:14

Brown Sauce. A little suburb that makes the

14:16

day worthwhile. Little ice cream that may stay

14:19

with while if you're lucky enough to get

14:21

a awesome. That. Makes the day. Why

14:23

their time? So that's it. Those are the

14:25

only joys in life. It's enjoy them. Yeah

14:27

what else is let us nor does are

14:30

grown because we say we deny ourselves so

14:32

much all the time. The are you know

14:34

it's time to to have these little moments

14:36

of pleasure. Let. It rip, Let er rip

14:38

that are as I had. Your.

14:41

Kids are grown now there are so they're

14:43

free. Ride a pretty much sugar outta high

14:45

school boy. oh wow is he your size?

14:47

know? but he's going through puberty now. Oh.

14:49

Really? Oh, he was about app. it's about our

14:51

but he's got the pause oh yeah you'll grow

14:54

into him as he an athlete. He

14:56

was, But then he was a

14:58

late bloomer. Yeah right because he just

15:00

kind of hit the now is a sophomore have weather's

15:02

are you like that to are? No yes I was

15:04

the last guy my class disappear and then you're been

15:07

a big boy that any identity code came all at

15:09

all once or my junior and senior year just got

15:11

a month or so drawn into college like freshman year

15:13

and I'm still grown as later on out every year.

15:16

And a so so my boy yeah he'll

15:18

he'll grow into but he code the team

15:20

sports left him because they're all just got

15:22

bigger than Im sure the I remember I

15:24

took the the his eighth grade class on

15:26

the their big field trip to Washington Dc

15:28

went over and these guys were six foot

15:30

two these eighth grade boys i now and

15:32

they were massive they're coming up with mustaches

15:34

like my councillor all grown and there are

15:36

there was room is rather jesus christ my

15:38

boys got a chance I know what in

15:40

a leading these kids to make him so

15:42

by I saw i saw something on it.

15:45

Of. Like the best top high

15:47

school. Basketball. Teams

15:49

in California. And. the

15:51

average height was like six five or six six

15:53

hours i was there was one dude in my

15:55

high school who was six eight one dude he

15:58

was dug on six a that's amazing for high

16:00

school. Well, he was the

16:02

only guy of that kind of... He had

16:04

to dominate that whole conference. That whole league.

16:06

Yeah, it was ridiculous. Everybody else was like

16:08

5'10 to maybe 6'2 if you're lucky. Right.

16:11

If you're lucky. Yeah, our basketball team consisted of

16:13

5'11 to 6'2. Right.

16:15

But now, I feel like they're all way,

16:17

way bigger than we ever were. Maybe

16:20

it's all working. Maybe the HGH and the booster

16:22

is working, but God bless, dude. Keep shooting it

16:25

up. So what he's into now, because the team

16:27

sports passed him by, but he got into MMA.

16:29

Oh, really? Yeah. So

16:32

he's pretty good. He goes to his training. He does

16:34

it. He works hard at it. Now, what if he

16:36

wants to go pro? Are you cool with that? Like, if

16:38

he really commits and this becomes a career... To

16:41

me, if he goes, one

16:43

of two things is going to happen. He's going to get popped in the mouth

16:45

and he's not going to like it. Or he's

16:47

going to pop someone else in the mouth and love it. And

16:50

so it'll sort itself out quickly. Yeah,

16:52

yeah. He'll figure it out. He'll

16:54

figure it out. He'll figure it out. Well, I'm

16:56

not... I got into it a

16:59

little bit. Rogan showed me it, but the

17:01

thing that I'm into now, show him... Have you

17:03

seen these slap offs? Have you seen these slap

17:05

offs? Oh my God, I've seen them. It's an

17:07

insane-a-thon. They're just trying to kill each other. It's

17:10

amazing, man. They shatter... Their faces are

17:12

puffed out to here. The concussion,

17:14

they have to be concussed every time, right?

17:16

Oh, yeah. Well, I love that they did. So

17:18

they're allowed to do one... So the career has got to be, what, two

17:20

fights? It's one afternoon. Yeah, you're

17:22

done in an afternoon. But this

17:24

is like, you watch this and they're allowed to do

17:26

three... And they have to hit on the

17:28

third one. And it's unbelievable how hard

17:31

they hit these people. And

17:33

it's... But like, it's so funny

17:35

that for so long slapping a man was

17:37

like such a crazy, big, disrespectful thing to

17:39

do. But now you have to sit there

17:41

and take the slap. There's no

17:43

clinching, no defending. And you can't like... You can't

17:45

try to move your head. No, yeah, you can't

17:47

move. They can't like try to... You can get

17:49

disqualified. Yeah. And then you still get

17:51

the hit. So you really have to take it, right? Yeah. Look

17:54

at this. It's awesome. I love

17:56

it. When some of these guys get slapped, they go

17:58

cock stiff. that lockup where the

18:00

hands go up right and then they're just on the floor

18:03

like this I just like

18:05

I don't understand this sport

18:07

but you know what it's to me it's

18:09

like anything else where I remember

18:12

someone saying I think my dad was saying

18:14

something he was like MMA is that well

18:16

because when it was you know the original

18:18

cage fighting when I remember the very first

18:20

one yeah they get a wrestler

18:22

who like an all-star wrestler yeah like

18:24

a juditsu brilliant Brazilian jiu-jitsu guy right

18:26

and then they didn't have the only

18:29

rule was no eyes no nuts

18:31

no nice no no no but you could I remember there

18:33

was a an Asian guy who had on a

18:35

red like a speedo right and

18:37

somehow was in with this other like 600 pound

18:39

guy or whatever and just was punching him in

18:41

the dingle what yeah just punching him smoking it

18:44

and and I was like I guess that's as

18:46

long as you didn't hit the eyes that was

18:48

the only rule yeah I guess well these are

18:50

my eyes downstairs I need

18:52

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domain. Yeah, no, I remember my dad saying

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though, he was like, I don't think that's gonna really

22:19

make an impact. And I was like, well, who

22:21

knows? And sure enough, I don't know. I

22:24

couldn't know. I mean, it's obviously not as big as football,

22:26

but I mean, it's just such a huge

22:28

sport. Now it's shocking to think how

22:31

tiny that was. So maybe this turns into something

22:33

bigger. Who knows? I just don't think you're going

22:35

to get enough people. Well, it's not as dynamic,

22:37

of course. mixed martial arts is so much more

22:39

dynamic. Because your career is like getting behind an

22:41

athlete in this athlete, athlete, and being very generous,

22:44

getting behind a, let's call them a

22:46

fighter, slapper, getting behind a slapper is

22:48

tough to do because they're not going to be around that long. Now,

22:51

they're in now. What did that say? How

22:53

much money do they make? You know,

22:55

what, 10 grand, 30 grand being

22:57

the highest. What is this? You

23:00

have, oh, well, you have sees much, much higher. Yeah,

23:02

yeah. 3 million. Well, I mean, it's

23:04

so much harder to compare because there's no money in it

23:06

yet. But we, I had this discussion the other day, like

23:08

you and I both big golfers. And

23:11

what's crazy is how

23:14

some guys that are on

23:16

the tour doing well, are

23:18

still not, you know, weren't making

23:20

a lot of money until very recently, the rules

23:22

are changing, the times are changing. But it's crazy

23:25

to think you're a pro, you're one of the

23:27

top, you know, 50 in the world. But if

23:29

you're having a bad year, you're not making money.

23:31

No, it's crazy. It doesn't because every other major

23:34

league sport, every other professional sport, there

23:36

is some sort of salary guarantee. Well, you're given

23:38

a guarantee. Yeah, there's a base that you can

23:40

count on, right? To at least, you know, fund

23:42

whatever life you, and then anything, you know, let's

23:44

say you have a great year, great, you get,

23:46

you reap the benefits. Right. But, but

23:48

they're the only ones who have to get, throw their

23:51

bag in the car and go to the next tournament

23:53

if they don't make the cut. Tough, and the caddy

23:55

life, living with the caddy life. I said that last

23:57

night with my cousin, we were watching the worldwide golf

23:59

replay. And I

24:01

said, this is what's interesting about golf, and not that I'm

24:03

trying to crack the tradition, but the

24:05

athlete doesn't have to carry the bag, right?

24:08

So what I'm confused with is, why does

24:10

some other idiot have to carry the bag? We can't

24:12

just put that on a thing. You know what I mean?

24:14

Why does he have to physically – I don't understand, because

24:16

the labor of it doesn't affect the athlete's

24:18

performance. Well, I think what it is, in my

24:21

humble opinion, and I don't know, but guessing, is

24:23

that golf is such an individual sport that the

24:26

only – it's like a boxer. In the ring,

24:28

they've got to fight, but they go back to

24:30

their corner to get a perspective, an outside view

24:32

of what's happening or whatever. And

24:34

that caddy is more than just carrying the bag.

24:36

I think he's also a confidant, someone who calms

24:38

him down, someone who gives him advice, someone who

24:40

backs up his decision. Yeah. You

24:43

know, that – No, I agree. I think – He's a quarter

24:45

man. But I'm saying, what you're saying is, you need to have

24:47

that guy, but why does he have to carry the bag? Why

24:49

does he have to lug an 80-pound bag? Yeah. I

24:52

never got that. Like, that's the thing – No, you're absolutely right on that. Why

24:54

not put it on a pushy trolley or

24:56

– Yeah, because I understand if the athlete

24:58

rules was, well, the athlete has to do

25:01

this during competition. I totally understand

25:03

that. But if the onus isn't on you to

25:05

carry your own shit – I couldn't agree more.

25:07

Then it's weird. They just did – like, it's

25:09

those things like before Liv came

25:11

along, everybody just accepted the paradigm of the

25:13

PGA. Yeah. That was it. That's

25:16

it, and there's no debating it, and that's it. Then

25:18

Liv comes along, and now all

25:20

the rules have changed, because the paradigm is now, well, we've got to

25:22

pay our people, we've got to do this, we've got to do that.

25:24

Things can be different. Well, I'm a big Liv guy. I mean, I

25:26

don't know if you know, but I'm a big – I'm big into

25:28

it. I played in the Pro-Am. I'm

25:30

friends with those guys now, and I'm

25:33

a big proponent of like – I like competition. We're

25:35

the same boat. We're from the same club. Yeah. I

25:38

think the PGA – who

25:40

I respect, and I respect traditionally on this stuff, but I think

25:43

they got caught with their pants down. Totally. I

25:45

think they just got used to being this dinosaur who's like, this is

25:47

how it is. We're this monolith, and when

25:49

the competition came, they didn't know

25:51

how to respond. No. They got caught with

25:53

their pants down. I'm sorry, but

25:55

we do live in a world of competition, and if I

25:57

can make a better widget than you, then I should be able to come

25:59

to – market. Check out my widget.

26:01

Look at my widget man. Exactly. It

26:03

does feel that way to me. I

26:05

just feel like there the times they

26:08

are changing and so many other sports

26:10

have shifted the way that

26:12

the game is played why would golf

26:14

is so slow to do it but it you know if you're a

26:16

hockey fan. The market will bear too. The market will bear like it.

26:18

Let's say Liv comes to the table says I think I got a

26:21

better widget right. Well if no one

26:23

goes to see no one would like some no one responds

26:25

they don't have any name town that well

26:27

the market will bear that and they will fail and

26:29

if that happens okay. You know but if

26:31

the market says

26:33

no actually we enjoy this we enjoy this competition

26:35

we enjoy a new flavor we enjoy a different

26:38

kind of competition. Well guess

26:40

what they got a little chunk of your

26:42

market share. Yeah I think every sport is

26:44

changing over time. I don't know

26:47

why this one wouldn't and the ever-long

26:49

debate which I want to hear your

26:51

side of it is with my dad

26:53

because he's old school he thinks shorts

26:55

are bullshit he's always like guys shouldn't

26:57

wear shorts on the golf course

26:59

and I said we wear shorts when we play yeah

27:01

he's like I'm not a pro I was

27:03

like okay. I would say this in a

27:05

weird way I'm kind of with you dad I get it in

27:08

a weird way I like

27:10

college players wearing shorts mm-hmm okay

27:13

I don't mind amateurs I think shorts

27:15

is wonderful I just feel like it

27:17

is the only signature thing

27:19

that a pro can do to say I'm

27:21

a pro is I sweat I play in sweat

27:23

I play in slacks yeah I sweat that's my

27:26

thing though it's like it's kind of like how

27:29

the NBA at some point all

27:31

these athletes were like do does

27:33

our penis have to fall out of the bottom of these

27:35

shorts or could we have longer shorts and

27:38

the NBA was like okay I guess we can make

27:40

this more comfortable for you fine give them a long

27:42

short because they were Daisy Dukes oh they were I

27:44

mean you know that the players were like this is

27:46

very uncomfortable yeah and they were finally like yeah I

27:48

guess if it's affecting your performance we should make it

27:50

to the best of your ability so then they

27:52

finally started to change that's what I'm saying is like if

27:55

it's 90 and those guys are doing

27:57

a tour in South Florida why

27:59

can't they wear shorts? I just don't get it, I

28:01

don't know. And have you seen some of these guys' calves?

28:03

You know Phil, delicious calves,

28:06

these guys. Dude, meat hawks. They're monster.

28:08

And they're awesome. Show them off. So,

28:11

but talking about change, right?

28:13

And talking about evolution, so

28:17

you know soccer over the Premier

28:19

League or whatever, they have all

28:21

kinds of cups. They have a

28:23

FIFA World Cup, they have the

28:26

Champions Cup, they have the Yufa, whatever. They

28:28

have all these different cups. And

28:30

they have a season. They play out,

28:32

right? Right. So, and then

28:34

within the season, they have another, they

28:36

do the side thing, little side hustle,

28:38

where they try to win this other

28:40

cup and all this stuff. And

28:42

so it's really interesting because they grab all the all-stars

28:44

from everybody and they do all this stuff. And it's

28:47

interesting. And now

28:49

it looks like the NBA,

28:51

have you seen this? The NBA, it

28:53

looks like, if I saw an ad,

28:55

it looks like. But basically, they're gonna

28:57

do some sort of mid-season

28:59

thing where they grab the best players and

29:01

they compete for a cup. Oh wow. So

29:04

not only do you have them playing for their cities and da

29:06

da da da, just like soccer, now they're gonna play for some

29:09

Champions Cup. Oh that's really cool. A basketball

29:11

and it's gonna be this global thing. I

29:13

like that. So, but to me, that's the

29:15

evolution and the way they keep it going.

29:17

Yeah, in season tournament right there. You

29:20

might as well keep things moving

29:22

because, you know, I

29:25

do think, you know, this

29:27

sounds old school, but there is not a lot of

29:29

allegiance anymore to a city or a team. A lot

29:31

of guys just want to, you know, become

29:34

the avengers

29:36

of a team and then win everything, which

29:38

is the ultimate goal, right? But, and

29:41

if that's the case, then it's like, well then we might as

29:43

well, because like for soccer players, those

29:45

guys jump around to wherever it works. And

29:48

it used to be like, you know, when I was a

29:50

kid, Kevin Garnett played in Minnesota, sadly,

29:53

for far too long. And then he got his comeuppance when

29:55

he finally left, but he had allegiance to that city for

29:57

a long time. And guys- special

30:00

I don't know guys don't really do that anymore no

30:02

they don't like I remember George Brett with the he

30:04

stayed with the Royals his entire man I was 76

30:07

to 90 and and

30:09

I remember or to 92 but I remember

30:12

you know and I feel bad for like Barry

30:15

Sanders right you know yeah great one of the

30:17

greatest of all time stuck in Detroit

30:19

couldn't get I know you want him to move right

30:21

want him to move yeah so I don't

30:23

know when LeBron started that super team thing down in Miami

30:25

you know that was the beginning of all of it really

30:27

I mean that was like really well cracking the egg of

30:30

everyone I don't know what's right I don't know what's

30:32

right cuz in baseball there's no salary cap like I

30:34

remember I remember it one time a rod his

30:38

yearly salary was equivalent to the

30:40

entire Royals starting lineup that sounds right you know it

30:42

really well I remember cuz it was we just laugh

30:44

about it you know we're like well how are we

30:46

supposed to compete you know now you can't so that

30:48

then when you have leagues that do have these salary

30:51

caps well you see some parity you know like the

30:53

if you're if you're at the bottom right now in

30:55

the NFL give it about five years you you'll

30:57

be back you'll be the playoffs you say that but we're

30:59

the Bears you

31:01

say that but we're the Bears if

31:04

you have given a lot of years man pick

31:06

right if you okay yeah I know you still

31:09

have a puncher's chance cuz even if you stay at the

31:12

bottom long you just keep like the Browns right now have

31:14

like they're starting lineup has got like 11 between

31:17

the offensive defense they got like 11 number

31:20

one picks and they still can't get it

31:22

done no it's true but it's

31:25

true I still always hold out hope because because that is

31:27

the NFL still

31:29

does have that hopeful underdog

31:31

thing I don't it's

31:33

harder to see in other sports I think hopeful

31:35

underdog in like the NBA is and I'm a

31:37

law and I always wrestle this because I'm a

31:39

capitalist so I'm like what the market will

31:41

bear the market will bear right there you've got

31:43

the money to get that talent get that talent

31:46

or whatever but then I'm like yeah but then

31:48

it makes the league really hard you know because

31:50

you're just it's always gonna be the same five

31:52

teams competing for the trophy I've got a suggestion

31:54

you tell me this is whackadoo nonsense oh boy

31:56

so you put almost like already like it almost

31:58

like fantasy right you put everyone in in

32:00

a slotted numerical

32:02

position of what would be their financial worth

32:04

is now slotted into a numerical worth. The

32:07

example I would give is my dad does

32:09

a charity golf tournament and when

32:11

we do a golf tournament, not

32:14

charity, we do charity, we do a golf tournament

32:16

every year and you're a number, an A player,

32:18

a B player, a C player. And each team

32:20

gets one A and then you get two

32:22

B and two or three C, right? So

32:24

you would do that with NBA players.

32:27

Everyone's in a bucket. It's kind of a quality

32:29

control. And at the beginning of the year, you get

32:31

randomly selected and let's see what you do with that

32:34

team. Because if we're not going to have

32:36

any allegiance to cities anyway, well then, then anybody

32:38

gets a chance to have the best squad

32:40

for the year. And

32:42

let's say that goes on for like a two year

32:44

gap. So for a year or two, you play for

32:47

that same team and then you get back in the

32:49

shuffle again. It'd be kind of fun

32:51

to see. That's interesting concepts. Because your, and then your financial

32:53

worth is based on what it was before. You were an

32:55

A player anyway. We determined that when you came into the

32:57

league, that's how you would grab. How can players go from

32:59

C to B to A? Can you, I mean, you certainly,

33:02

you can bump up at the end of the year, much

33:04

like it. If your numbers are tremendous. Well, much like any

33:06

good ball player, if you had a great year, the next

33:08

year you're going to use that option, if you

33:10

have it, to either say, hey, I want a

33:13

couple more bucks. I want to make sure the

33:15

players stay incentivized. Totally. And if their

33:17

play is good, which, you know, then you get it,

33:19

then you're going to get those rewards. Yeah. And

33:22

you're going to get bumped to the next league. Because honestly,

33:24

I just think like if there is not going to be

33:26

allegiance to cities, it's very tough in the NBA, specifically the

33:28

NBA, then why wouldn't it be more

33:31

of a randomization and

33:33

a fun, it's almost like

33:35

we're watching different little Olympic squads

33:37

come together. You know, when the Olympic team comes

33:40

together, you're like, what do you call this plant?

33:42

Do you have a name for it yet? The

33:44

San Riggle, the Santino Riggle. Well, the San Riggle

33:47

is just real quick on air. We're going to

33:49

copyright trademark. Yeah, we have to. We

33:51

have to. We have the trademark it. Please get on

33:53

that. We email the, thank you. I just feel like

33:55

there's something to be, it was, this is a fun

33:57

concept. It's fun. It's different. Nowadays,

34:00

I grew up in

34:02

the dominant monopolization of basketball in

34:04

Chicago with Jordan. Because

34:06

it was mine, it was amazing. You loved

34:08

it. You had a great time. Right.

34:11

But for other squads, I'm sure it was kind of lame

34:13

for so long that he had created one of

34:17

the most dominant teams of all time. So

34:20

I think it'd be fun to see them switch. But

34:22

there was something special though because... But that only happens

34:24

once in a lifetime, man. Once in a great, great

34:26

life. He was a special individual. Totally. His

34:29

look ethic, his demand of his teammates. He

34:32

created that. Totally. He built

34:34

it, created it, and his special skills and

34:36

his leadership, whether you liked it or not,

34:39

it's still leadership. But let me see what he does with

34:41

a bunch of different B and C guys. Let

34:43

me see what Jordan does the next year

34:45

with a totally different lineup. I

34:47

think there's something... I want to see Jordan... With

34:50

George E. Miller and Isaiah Thomas and Bird and

34:52

what all those A's did with new B's. That

34:55

would be so cool to watch. Yeah, yeah. Justin

34:57

and Jordan would be wild to watch them two

34:59

together. Yeah. The only time we ever got to do

35:01

that was 92, the dream team. Right. That's what

35:03

I'm saying. So why don't we make every year or

35:05

two, maybe you get two years of this team, and

35:08

I'm pitching it. You're

35:10

hearing me at the NBA. We got to figure

35:12

out a way... Because the only way they'll implement it is if

35:14

they do it on a minor league level and it works. Well,

35:17

you could do it in the G League. You could do it in the G League and see how

35:19

that works in the G League. And if

35:21

it works in the NBA's... I think he just created

35:23

something amazing. I know. I know. If

35:26

you steal this idea, what are you looking up? Oh,

35:28

yeah. Oh, it's on record. Adam Silver.

35:31

Yeah, Adam is a big fan of this show.

35:33

Adam, if you're listening, Adam Silver, if you're out

35:35

there listening carefully to this show... We're

35:37

not asking for this. I have no claim to this, but I will

35:40

say... I'll let you in. You're here. I

35:42

just want a suite. I want to be in

35:44

the suite with you. You heard it, Adam. Please,

35:46

Mr. Silver. With food service and liquor, top shelf

35:48

liquor. Dude, isn't that funny? When

35:50

you get invited to these suites at athletic performances

35:52

or whatever, and if you get into one of

35:54

these suites, they're amazing to get into one

35:56

of them. But sometimes you go to one

35:58

that doesn't have food. booze and you're

36:01

like, oh man. Or some nasty

36:03

ass chicken fingers and some bad sauce. This

36:05

is all you got? Then I'm like, well

36:07

I'll roll the dice out of concessions. I'm

36:09

going to concessions every time. Yeah. If there's

36:11

only like one thing and they're like, you

36:13

guys get mick ultra and chicken wings,

36:15

I'm like, I'll go back to concessions. And a thing

36:17

of popcorn that everybody's been finger banging.

36:19

Yeah, no thank you. I'll roll the dice at concessions.

36:24

So that's the proposition, Mr. Adams Silver.

36:26

If you want a business with us,

36:29

you know how to contact us. You know how to get ahold of

36:31

us. And get the kings back to Kansas City. No one's watching

36:33

them in Sacramento. Get the kings back to Kansas

36:36

City. Yeah, why not? Seriously, we want them. We

36:39

want them back. You should have never left and

36:41

Sacramento doesn't give a shit about the kings. No, you

36:43

know what's so funny is we're playing a show

36:45

in Sacramento next year, but we're playing a place called

36:47

like Wheatland or something. And

36:49

most of the time if I misquote it

36:51

online, if I say we're playing Sacramento, someone

36:54

goes, you're actually playing Wheatland, but

36:56

Sacramento doesn't give a shit. They're like, yeah, man, it's all

36:58

Sacramento, whatever. We're what? It's don't worry about it. It's not

37:00

that big of a deal. I don't even know what it's

37:02

called. Yeah, Sacramento. What is that? The hard rock. Click on

37:04

the thing. I think it's called Wheatland is the name of

37:06

the area. But it is funny. Some

37:08

cities get real sensitive. Like you guys have this in

37:10

space because you know, I've talked to you about this.

37:12

I went to college with a lot of

37:14

Kansas City guys, which is why I have this weird connection

37:17

to Kansas City because a bunch

37:19

of my boys were from Overland

37:21

Park and all over all over.

37:23

But uh, which is where I'm from. Oh, are

37:26

you really? Oh, that's wild. And Park Hill South

37:28

is where someone went to High School. And that's

37:30

where Stone Street. He's from Park Hill area. Really?

37:32

North Kansas. Yeah. Some of those guys went there.

37:35

But so I have this weird affinity to them,

37:37

but they take it, Midwest people

37:39

know, Kansas City takes it

37:41

real, real serious if you're Kansas side, Missouri

37:43

side. That's like a big. Well,

37:46

I'm so specific too because the

37:48

simple truth is like Kansas City, Missouri and Kansas City,

37:50

Kansas, you know, it's split

37:53

down the middle. Yeah. And so

37:55

a lot of people get confused by which is

37:57

which. Sure. Kansas City, Kansas has a lot of

37:59

industry. You know area and

38:02

and Kansas City, Missouri has the downtown

38:04

skyline and they have the Truman Sports

38:06

complex Yeah, they have a lot of

38:08

the goodies, right? I see

38:10

what you're doing So but now we

38:12

built up a lot of stuff out on

38:15

the Kansas side with the racetrack and the

38:17

soccer team soccer field, right? Yeah, so, you

38:19

know, we're it's a balancing act or whatever

38:21

But I do tell when people say where

38:23

you're from I say I'm from Overland Park, Kansas. I'm very

38:25

specific. You let them know Yeah, yeah that because it is

38:27

a kind of a big point of contention of people that

38:29

I know from the area that But

38:32

what doesn't matter no matter which side you're from

38:35

you're still a Kansas City sports fan Yeah,

38:37

so that division doesn't matter. No, that's what's

38:39

interesting. Yeah, there's no division there. We're all

38:42

we're all red, right? You're all right that that I think

38:44

is kind of powerful. That's a cool that that's kind of

38:46

like for me growing up in Chicago I

38:49

don't give a shit what part of

38:51

Wisconsin you're from there lunatics about Green

38:53

Bay I mean like that's all

38:55

I got I know but it's just it's so

38:57

big to them Yeah And Chicago is such a

38:59

mixed bag that there's probably people from other parts

39:01

of the country that are like maybe Bears fans

39:03

Maybe not, but if you live in Wisconsin, I

39:05

don't care if you're from Massachusetts You could be

39:08

from New York City you move to Wisconsin you

39:10

become a diehard. That's the one thing I already

39:12

move back out Yeah, you're right. Right a real

39:14

quick choice Or they or

39:16

they beat you up and you leave or they run you out of the yeah So

39:19

you being a golf man, you'll appreciate this So

39:22

I was lucky enough to play in the Ryder

39:24

Cup up in whistling straights and my

39:26

partner Because they knew it was

39:28

a Wisconsin or whatever right my partner was AJ

39:30

Hawk. Whoa And and

39:32

I mean the crowd there's a

39:34

massive crowd, you know gallery

39:37

and And it's it's just a

39:39

little celebrity match whatever it's some

39:41

European celebrities against some American celebrities We're and it's

39:43

a little two-man scramble like nine holes or whatever,

39:46

but it was a lot of fun But

39:48

those fans were going so nuts for AJ man.

39:50

Oh, man. Yeah, I heard it didn't

39:52

matter what he did They're like, hey Jay, but they're

39:54

ripping their hair I

40:00

love you AJ. Is he a good golfer? Yes.

40:03

Well he probably beats the shit out of the

40:05

ball. There's no doubt. He clubs that thing. It's

40:07

so funny to watch the athletes hit it. His

40:10

swing is so violent. It's going three

40:12

bills every time. It might not go

40:14

straight, but it's going three bills every

40:17

time. Sometimes over there but

40:19

also very far. But when he did rope

40:21

it right down the middle. It is insane

40:23

to watch. When they do hit it like

40:25

that, it's almost...you do see why God made

40:27

them different. When you see

40:29

a pro athlete play a sport that's not their

40:31

own, you're like, oh my God, you are made completely,

40:33

uniquely different than me. You

40:36

and I have both been around professional athletes and you're

40:38

100% right. I

40:41

don't know how...what...if

40:43

it was Zeus, I don't know who blessed them or

40:45

touched them at birth and granted

40:48

them the gifts that they have. But

40:50

their bones are bigger. Their muscles, their

40:52

tendons. Everything about them, even their mindset

40:54

is competition, competition, competition. Well,

40:57

this thing is the most unique part about it because I

40:59

see guys that do other sports that they don't play and

41:03

the way they think about these sports, the

41:05

way that they are competitive, and even in

41:07

that, you're like, oh man, you just know

41:09

how to dissect competitive things better

41:11

than anybody else. You really have

41:13

different vision over a game. You know how to

41:16

focus, when to focus, you know when

41:18

to...and their focus goes from nothing to

41:20

hyper. Right away, yeah, yeah, there's no

41:22

middle ground. Meanwhile, me

41:24

and a couple of these and I'm just

41:26

like, whatever happens, whatever. I'm taking selfies, I'm

41:28

like, whatever. We're out here partying. That

41:30

is true, man. They just take it to a totally

41:32

different level. But those pro-ams are kind

41:35

of the coolest thing to see. Different

41:38

people excel even at that game.

41:41

Like, I went and did Steph Curry's

41:43

a couple years ago in Stanford and,

41:45

you know, everyone brags that Steph's a good golfer. But

41:48

he's also just got the swag of

41:50

an athlete. There's something that they all have. He has the

41:52

swagger. He

41:54

could eat a sandwich. You'd be like, holy shit, the way

41:56

he eats that sandwich. That's the best I've ever seen. Yeah, they're

41:58

just good at that. They're better at you

42:01

at all like I'd be spilling on my

42:03

shirt stuff. It's just something about it my

42:05

beard. Yeah Yeah, do I look into ridiculous?

42:07

Yeah, you look like a idiot now.

42:10

They're very fun. They're they're super fun I get

42:12

no do you get nervous in those things? I

42:14

get a little nervous always. Oh my god And

42:16

my grip pressure goes through the roof even though

42:18

I tell myself to calm down. I say swing

42:20

easy I swing hard again. Yeah, it's just a

42:23

you know, we're not as conditioned for like You

42:26

know, it's funny too because I hear athletes say I

42:28

could never do what you do, you know Yeah, you

42:30

could probably like yeah, of course you could But

42:34

they are very used to athletic performance in

42:37

front of people, you know Our games weren't

42:39

meant to be put on display now. They're

42:41

for us. No, no friend our little secret

42:44

It's my little tiny secret. So when you when you

42:46

have to put our games on display in front of,

42:48

you know galleries and People yeah.

42:50

Yeah, everything everything gets heightened and all

42:52

that anxiety comes it comes through and not

42:54

a golf Manifest all

42:56

your whatever you're feeling that day if

42:59

you're angry when you get to the course if you're

43:01

rushed if you are preoccupied

43:04

with fight with your girl or of

43:06

this or that or It

43:08

all comes to the golf course It's not like you

43:10

put it on the shelf But it's not like you

43:12

can use it like in football You could use it

43:14

to take that anger that frustration that anxiety you could

43:16

pound someone or yeah Run harder skid

43:18

it out of your body in golf.

43:20

It just stays inside you and manifest in

43:22

your shitty play Yes,

43:25

what'd you shoot what'd you shoot today? You shouldn't say a number you should

43:27

be like, I'll tell you what I shot I got a fight with my

43:29

wife this morning And

43:32

my car needs to be gone to get taken

43:34

back in for the fourth time the front nine was

43:36

me dealing with my fucking man Yeah You

43:42

want to ask my kids how I played today, you know And

43:45

that that is good a fight with them and nobody

43:47

knew about it. Just you and manifest right there Yeah,

43:49

that is true at all that kind of comes In

43:53

the way that we don't know how to deal deal with it like

43:55

they do I want to know your opinion You don't have to go

43:57

too deep but

43:59

because I can't avoid it unfortunately being

44:01

a KC guy and our boy Travis

44:04

with With this Taylor

44:06

Swift thing it now do KC fans are

44:08

they like over this whole nonsense? Oh, yeah

44:10

I think in a way

44:12

and when I say over it, I don't mean

44:15

like they're over them No, just a public publication

44:17

just the constant hype. Yeah, like a Taylor

44:20

check-in, you know all the time. What do they

44:22

do? Why the end of her doing that? She's

44:24

she's she's his girlfriend. They're their boyfriend girlfriend or

44:26

their their dating or whatever. They're doing they're enjoying

44:28

it It is what it is. It comes

44:30

with being high-profile. It just comes I know but

44:32

it's so funny the NFL is utilizing this to

44:34

to win women girl fans Yeah, they're

44:37

doing all those with I know his bed. They are they

44:39

knew where the money was They were like dude put the

44:41

camera up there Make one of these

44:43

guys talk about it at least at least once

44:45

every other break. It's interesting I

44:47

mean, it's just it's a very they always have to mention

44:49

it They do if they always have to mention if she's

44:51

had the game or not now I know it's so fun,

44:54

you know, like when they're in Germany lives, you know, they

44:56

were they're like Well, she's not here.

44:58

Yeah, and Taylor is not here today. We

45:00

will be missing car in the stands Oh,

45:03

she's very good at this. Yeah, but

45:05

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45:07

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was an interesting game to see in Germany by

48:46

the way. My wife said that she came

48:48

out and watched me watching the game and she goes, do

48:51

people in Germany like football? I was

48:53

like, yeah, well yes, people like football everywhere but I

48:55

do understand what she's saying. I

48:58

got why she was like, why is it there? I'm like,

49:00

well they're trying to expand their audience. Why

49:02

are the Germans embracing a Kansas City team? Well

49:04

they pick teams. You see those guys in Europe.

49:06

They do. You'll see a guy with

49:08

a Dallas shirt on and you're like, oh that's kind of

49:10

wild. I asked a guy one time, I was in Venice,

49:14

Italy during the Super Bowl

49:16

probably 15 years ago. I

49:20

was in college, yeah, 18 years ago. I'll

49:23

never forget, we found a bar, a pub,

49:26

that was open after hours because of the

49:28

time difference and the Super Bowl was playing.

49:32

Guys had different shirts on or were cheering

49:34

and there were teams that obviously weren't

49:37

represented. I was like, how did you

49:39

become that fan? A

49:41

New York Giants. They

49:43

always had kind of an elongated version

49:46

of like, well a friend of mine went to

49:48

New York one time 10 years ago. Said

49:50

it was the most fun he ever had and

49:52

he saw a game and then now I like

49:55

it. Or they pick one player from, it's

49:57

not even usually a current player. Sometimes it's like.

50:00

You know, again, they'll be like Barry Sanders is

50:02

why I like the line. You're like, wow, that's

50:04

fucking amazing and I think the Chiefs right now

50:06

have such a Fun

50:08

roster. Oh, yeah, and they're doing fun things

50:10

like winning and dating famous people winning. Yeah,

50:13

so that winning helps Yeah, but you

50:15

know the Chiefs fans at the at that game in

50:17

Germany. It was like a home game Yeah,

50:20

did feel but they also had this the same kind of intensity

50:22

that American fans have they have

50:24

because you forget the way that they treat football

50:26

soccer is how we treat football football But I

50:28

would argue they're way more intense and we and

50:30

I can see how this happens because on the

50:32

reverse side of that Like I know nothing about

50:34

the Premier League, you know I mean, I know

50:36

some names right and old names like Beckham and

50:38

you know things like that Yeah, but but and

50:40

I have a cursory understanding

50:43

of Premier League soccer sure,

50:45

but I shared an office

50:47

with John Oliver when I was at

50:49

the Daily Show right best man and so I Educated

50:52

him on American football and he educated me on

50:54

the Premier. That's cool And then he's like so

50:56

I'm a Liverpool man. So I was like, I

50:59

guess I am too So that's how I write

51:01

in a little bit. Exactly right, but I have

51:03

no other allegiance other than John introduced me To

51:05

Liverpool and made me a believer that's you know, he's a

51:08

good problem He knows what that you know, and I made

51:10

him believe in the Chiefs a lot But then he

51:12

rejected him at the last minute and went with the Giants.

51:14

So fuck him Well, you know what I was in

51:16

New York, but even still you took up Liverpool

51:19

John. What's your deal, bud? Yeah, give us a

51:21

call. Yeah, I you know I get out. Yeah,

51:23

come on Serious bullshit Well because your allegiance

51:25

comes from like that happens to with like my dad

51:27

like stuff and I just like it cuz of him

51:29

like I Don't he went to University of Tennessee.

51:32

I don't have any allegiance Tennessee, but I support him

51:34

and I like it Yeah, because it is so if

51:36

it's like if someone you love supports it You're like,

51:38

I guess I'm gonna do it too. Right and if

51:40

there's no harm no foul, I'll get on board Yeah,

51:43

why not right as long as not so like right

51:45

here in LA I live in LA my kids are

51:47

being raised in LA But I'm a Kansas City through

51:49

and through guy, right? So it's Royals. It's it's

51:51

Chiefs You know, I went to KU so I'm

51:53

a Jayhawk right? These are just my things right

51:56

And for the most part the kids Have not had a choice,

51:58

but I said listen, you're growing. Vanilla, You can

52:00

have the Lakers, You could have the Kings.

52:03

Your. Nose levers and you our get

52:05

on board with the Dodgers cause they're

52:07

nationally. That's. right? And. Laws

52:10

in of unless is the World Series. And

52:12

airplane the royal Seal obligates but I'll get on

52:14

board were dodgers and I'll go out there that

52:16

when play with in and let you have a

52:18

dodger and are they.of they l a they did

52:20

they do appreciate have it's a dodger ever some L

52:23

A. Lurid. They get on board.

52:25

it's an easy we move here I live and

52:27

you for so long to it's I guess what

52:29

am I do not go support local sports I

52:31

can't see my team yeah I'd I'd wanna do

52:33

see them they get robbed. When. They

52:36

come here so Vienna, Whatever. it's fine, you know

52:38

it's I got. I had no problem. It's tough

52:40

for me as a Cubs fan because the Cubs

52:42

Dodgers. Headbutting that we

52:45

did during our little Arlo triumph and year.

52:47

But outside of that yeah I'm a local

52:49

fan of a lot of sports cars that

52:51

you i live here. What he wanted a

52:53

would you I will go city angels or

52:55

go to a game it's are planned roof

52:57

of another once but I bet they're are

52:59

league and I can't do it in armor.

53:01

I also don't want to go down there

53:03

are hundreds of it's as to for her

53:05

island and. A good thing to like the

53:07

the Chargers are now L A. So.

53:09

I get to see the Chiefs least once a year.

53:12

that's true the other night when they come to town.

53:14

Yeah, and and then the Raiders are either Vegas. And.

53:16

So their plan when Vegas was a year so there

53:19

are those a couple games we as haven't have you

53:21

been has ever been to Vegas to the stadium have

53:23

scored unbelievable Gorgeous. yeah that is good. That's that's the

53:25

one thing I'm hoping for. The continues. I mean you

53:27

to by the way you guys because Arrowhead is are.

53:30

shown. Shown her age spots where I think

53:32

where the old stadium lifted the Nfl. You gotta

53:34

be right, another Oakland's gone. You guys got to

53:36

be it. Right up and and we were built

53:38

and seventy two are no social were still the

53:40

oldest seventies. but you know the irony as we

53:43

don't own that place. No no but you have

53:45

a new fields sorta feel as a new field.

53:47

Ah it's got to it. Had her it had

53:49

a upgrade to the it had a facelift. It.

53:51

Was just a facelift. It wasn't a whole thing

53:53

love, just face Looks like they are at Lambeau.

53:56

To Lambeau on the old boys. Yeah, that's right.

53:58

there you are. Arrowhead Number Three. Ah, to Lambeau.

54:00

Where can we? We skipped over. There is a

54:02

thing I Kansas City in my opinion, M and

54:04

probably Lambeau if they're If they're going to embrace

54:07

the future, they'll never change that feel that insane

54:09

I know. But the gotta put a roof on

54:11

it so that they can have. A.

54:13

Suitable. Yeah. Same. Thing Chicago

54:15

you're gonna put a roof on Soldier Field while

54:17

know they're going Arrowhead These a roof yeah anything.

54:19

As you nowadays there the designs amazing. Do this.

54:21

Retractable so when the weather's nice, open it up.

54:24

have an outdoor game thread but and as cold

54:26

most gotta be able to cap it off so

54:28

that you can get your Super Bowls The I

54:30

will. I agree on one of these guys that

54:32

I said that during the Denver during the Denver

54:34

Kan City game I said look. It's

54:37

cool that there's snow, yeah,

54:39

but also. Would. Be

54:41

a little bit easier on injury and little bit easier

54:43

on their bodies if they could play with a medical

54:46

around to play more games. Yeah, it's like a lot

54:48

of these guys have. Let them let them laugh a

54:50

little bit longer. You're getting them to play on turf

54:52

sometimes, which is. No. From what I

54:54

hear from a lot of the judges that the

54:57

hardest thing on their knees and their body

54:59

just so tired or a woman cora I know

55:01

that's a to yeah Now I get that Some

55:03

people are you okay power of her social

55:05

be restored older adults of but it's like know

55:07

this is for the health and safety these guys

55:10

are they get any their career I agree at

55:12

and I'm and of one hand I do

55:14

I am I'm like I appreciate the purity of

55:16

snow game or a mud gets cool ran the

55:18

elements of a cool about that and I

55:20

do respect and president I'm just thinking of now

55:23

being alone or. The financials of it. Which

55:25

is yeah. You know when a stadium gets

55:27

to be. Fifty years old. Fifty

55:29

one years old and it's time for. For. new

55:32

stadium you gotta think about putting a retractable roof

55:34

and months especially if you want to host a

55:36

suitable yeah the analysis our do it arizona did

55:38

grow grass outside what are these one of the

55:40

cause as i target everybody doesn't do that grow

55:43

the grass or thought i'd see when the senate

55:45

a push it him he had a real rajoelina

55:47

to the design ability and the engineering the can

55:49

be done there's no reason not to do this

55:51

yes i think it's all there's a lot of

55:53

pride stuff with chicago you know our whole thing

55:56

is they invested in property out in arlington where

55:58

the racetrack used to be but There's

56:01

a lot of elements that are fighting on moving it because people don't want

56:03

to move it. But this is a boring

56:05

fact, but we don't own that stadium. The city does.

56:07

The park district owns it. Well, they should – We're

56:10

not making all the money on it. If they want that

56:12

waterfront property and they want to keep Soldier View in it,

56:14

just put a dome on it because that wind coming off

56:17

the water is so cold. It's comical.

56:19

I remember going to games as a kid

56:21

and enjoying none of it until we got

56:23

back in the car. Not only because – Because

56:25

it's true, but it's painful. They also lost every time, like

56:27

as a kid. I think I went to one game that

56:29

we won. And then also,

56:32

you're having fun because you're with your friends. Yeah. Especially

56:35

when we were young. We went to a couple

56:37

of rain games, like heavy, heavy rain games. I

56:39

remember my buddy Josh and Sean. Those days were

56:41

rad because it was fun and you're young. But

56:44

as you start to get older and want to watch the

56:46

game more, you're like, I can't

56:49

do this. I'm uncomfortable. There's

56:51

no way they like this.

56:53

It's so freezing. Your face

56:55

hurts. Your nose is gone. Your

56:58

nose is absolutely gone. It's rock

57:00

solid. It's painful. It hurts. It's

57:03

actual physical pain. And

57:06

now, it's funny because the older I get,

57:08

the more I'm like, you know what? Do I

57:10

want to fight the traffic? Fight the people.

57:13

Pay ridiculous prices at concessions. All this

57:15

stuff on top of the ticket, da-da-da-da-da.

57:19

Or do I want to stay in my comfy jammies

57:21

on my awesome couch with my fireplace and my biggest

57:23

TV? And

57:25

then go take a quality

57:27

dump or whiz with no

57:30

pressure, no rush, no people staring. And

57:32

not have to listen to the guy next to me blast

57:35

out his burrito. Because it's obnoxious.

57:38

Like the men's rooms and bathrooms. There's a gross

57:40

hangout. There's a gross hideous, right? So it's like,

57:42

do I want all that or do I just

57:45

want to stay home and I'll be good? Well,

57:48

there's two things you made me think of. One, that's

57:51

my reasoning for how much I get mad at

57:53

Los Angeles because a lot of times, like with

57:55

Dodger Games, they black them out. What

57:57

City Can't you watch your own local team? That

58:00

lunacy to me unless you have a

58:02

certain cable provider that's bonkers and subset

58:04

of the thousand times. shame on the

58:06

city for doing that his own people

58:08

but also staying at home saying. The.

58:11

New thing that they're pitching is the metaverse of

58:13

like buying the online tickets. You know, if you

58:15

seen this where I've heard about what I went on,

58:18

I'm living a bias or whatever it's called. and you

58:20

can be at the game sitting in proverbial that

58:22

is unbelievable. So you are still at home, but you're

58:24

still at the game and I think that is a

58:26

hundred percent the future. To. Sublimate. What you're

58:28

talking about is like why wouldn't I just rather

58:31

sit at home But but be at the game

58:33

on their I'm seeing it like it's live on.

58:35

literally watching a live stream. I.

58:37

Willingly like so far. Stadium is a gorgeous

58:39

stayed in as rally. Beautiful getting in and

58:41

out of so fine they're gonna my mouth.

58:44

It's two hours and of my mouth

58:46

it's two hours either side of the game.

58:48

Two hours get into our goodness. That's. Absurd.

58:51

How did they not know? How did

58:53

they Not build? And. And.

58:56

How did they not build arteries in and

58:58

out about play Intuit proper etiquette one entrance

59:00

and exit and by the way the people

59:02

that work at shutout know hates but everytime

59:04

I go more like worse parking lot a

59:06

and are like by have no idea they

59:08

have no idea what currently they if they

59:10

offered A.trained a single person to the stadium

59:12

when I was out as a general decision

59:14

on Alma Mater. Do

59:16

you know anybody that does not, I like it off

59:18

the other guy Roman, walk it off of it, it's

59:20

almost like what you were you as and? Worked

59:24

in here let me alone the my power

59:26

and but it's i blink didn't did no

59:28

one of the stadium was trained you know

59:30

know staff member got any kind of age

59:32

cannot really on on the stadium the parking

59:34

lot was were but is there any even

59:36

if you could say okay even if you

59:38

don't teach everything about the to say this

59:41

is where you going to work and to

59:43

your left is this entrance to write of

59:45

that entrance that's parking lot. That's out in front

59:47

of you and then familiar with the area yet only dose

59:49

we want to cause he metallic a there and was the

59:51

funniest thing as we walked up and i was like i

59:53

think this is a great resource to be going in and

59:56

a guy like looked at the tickets and he goes. Your.

59:58

guess is as good as mine and I was like, all right.

1:00:01

And it wasn't, we had to walk all the way around, but

1:00:03

it's fine, I don't care. But it was like, yeah, I guess

1:00:05

we're just shooting our shot. At

1:00:08

some point, you do get a hold

1:00:10

of it if you've gone enough where you're like, I

1:00:12

think I know the side I'm supposed to be going

1:00:14

into. Well, I think I've

1:00:16

been three or four times now. Yeah. And

1:00:19

this last trip, I finally was like, okay,

1:00:21

I think from now on, I'm only

1:00:23

gonna try to park in this parking lot. Yeah, because

1:00:25

this is the one, and I'm only gonna try to

1:00:27

use this entrance. Yeah. This

1:00:30

was quick and easy. This works. This works. Don't

1:00:33

upset this. And I got out pretty easy, so I

1:00:35

was like, okay, I'll tell no one of

1:00:37

this secret. Right, right, right, right. No

1:00:40

one will know? No one will ever know. And for your kids, you're

1:00:42

like, don't say a word to any of your friends at school. Their

1:00:46

fathers should not know my little secret. My

1:00:48

dad always had little tricks like that too, or stuff that he was like,

1:00:50

no, no, this is the best place to park, we'll get in and out

1:00:52

of this thing. And I was always

1:00:54

like, how do you, dads have a way of

1:00:57

figuring out their little tricks of

1:00:59

whatever their thing is? Or, you know, like my

1:01:01

mom, shout out to my mom, who

1:01:03

called before the show, my mom, since I was a

1:01:05

kid, refuses to

1:01:08

park at the grocery store in

1:01:10

a regular spot because the parking lots always fill the

1:01:12

cars. She parks in the fire lane alongside,

1:01:15

and then puts on her flasher sometimes, and just goes

1:01:17

in shops, and has been doing this, by the way,

1:01:19

I'm calling her out. You gotta ticket her

1:01:21

or tell her, get her out of there. She's been doing this

1:01:23

for so long. Dude, she parks in

1:01:25

the fire lane illegally next to the girl. My

1:01:27

dad's always like, I'm gonna get towed. She's never

1:01:29

gotten towed, never gotten a ticket, never once. I

1:01:32

just like the moxie of it. She does not

1:01:34

care, dude. I liked it, at some point she

1:01:36

had had enough, and was like,

1:01:38

I'm gonna roll the dice, but this play is

1:01:40

worth it. It worked, I can't believe she's never

1:01:42

been towed. And then she keeps going back to

1:01:44

the well though. Oh yeah. The day

1:01:47

will come. She's an addict for good parking. She

1:01:49

needs to go to rehab, forget her park. But she

1:01:52

does that all the time. She has that, my

1:01:54

mom has got that thing in her, I don't

1:01:56

know if it's a city kid thing, but you'll

1:01:59

just do it. let them tell me

1:02:01

I can't do it type of vibe where you

1:02:04

know in LA I'm like oh they'll tow your car they'll

1:02:06

tow it within seconds of me parking

1:02:09

and they can't get anything right in

1:02:11

this town except for speeding

1:02:15

tickets parking ticket I'll smoke you oh yeah like

1:02:17

they lay in wait they're hiding in bushes that

1:02:19

little creeps yeah they really do dude I got

1:02:21

everything else no no no everything else is going

1:02:23

to shit yeah but boy they can get they

1:02:26

can find a way to give you a ticket

1:02:28

oh yeah my friends just got robbed they just

1:02:30

got their house broken into unfortunately and

1:02:33

the cop showed up and

1:02:35

you know you feel bad

1:02:37

because the guy's like look man you

1:02:39

know budget constraints like we can't we don't have

1:02:41

enough guys to like even really he's not gonna

1:02:43

be investigated yeah he was we're gonna get somebody

1:02:45

at some point to come to the house because

1:02:47

how long can you not touch where they

1:02:49

broke in and they were like they broke

1:02:51

into our bedroom and he's like

1:02:54

yeah so he's like

1:02:56

tough luck yeah yeah good stuff

1:02:59

shit yeah but it sucks yeah you feel bad the

1:03:01

cops are like we have no they're like our resources

1:03:03

are lower than they've ever been he's like so we

1:03:06

can't do anything else that's it's a

1:03:08

huge bummer that's the genius of defending

1:03:10

the police I know yeah we don't

1:03:12

know guys in the world unless we

1:03:14

get robbed yeah then we'll need you

1:03:17

unbelievable no yeah so it's it sucks

1:03:19

it's that kind of thing where they

1:03:21

it's it sucked because they were like these

1:03:24

guys broke in and they think it was an inside

1:03:26

job well

1:03:29

I think they know it was inside well because it was someone

1:03:31

that had known where that hurt up was that kind of stuff

1:03:33

hurt you know then you go to the whole thing yeah cuz

1:03:35

they didn't like oh that feels more of way more violation in

1:03:37

my house and I think about him because he's been in my

1:03:39

house McCombs been in my house and I think if we ever

1:03:41

get stolen from it's got to be you it's gotta be it's

1:03:44

gotta be him he looks like he knows someone wants to rob

1:03:46

us no offense McCombs but there's so many things working against you

1:03:49

show him your hair look what he did for his

1:03:51

hair we did that for another show Jesus commit to

1:03:53

the bit baby the kid commits

1:03:55

to the bit you do commit

1:03:57

sir yeah actually yeah

1:04:00

Yeah, yeah kudos big time, but also very scary

1:04:02

that he did it when he did it. I

1:04:04

thought and it's a bad idea I'm glad he

1:04:06

did it because I told him to or actually

1:04:08

I said if you really commit I'll be real

1:04:10

proud you look like a young

1:04:12

Gallagher. He does he really does like

1:04:14

a Gallagher He really does with the

1:04:17

the hair and all you need is a sledgematic my

1:04:19

friend, but only thing he's breaking is my heart Gallagher

1:04:24

was Gallagher was one of those guys that I remember as

1:04:27

a kid I You

1:04:30

know not to like I'm not dissing him But I

1:04:32

remember thinking it was so incredibly funny like

1:04:34

absurdly fun And then I got older and I was like

1:04:36

this is funny But I don't know if it's that like

1:04:38

it was it was just crazy more than funny But it

1:04:40

was it was a hundred percent unique. Yeah,

1:04:42

it was so different nobody was doing it So it

1:04:45

was he had his he had his own lane Totally

1:04:47

and that's and and back in the back in

1:04:50

the day that made all the difference well

1:04:52

That's like Stephen Wright. Yeah had his own lane

1:04:54

because of his delivery Yeah, totally and so

1:04:56

he had his lane and Gallagher had his lane

1:04:58

and and kennison had his lane Yeah, and

1:05:00

it was all because they had their own signature

1:05:03

You have such a love for stand-up. I mean

1:05:05

you're like you got a little crush on it.

1:05:08

I do I grew up loving I remember in

1:05:10

the 80s my you know my

1:05:12

dad dropping me off to see sand kennison

1:05:14

down at kennison municipal auditorium Wow, you know

1:05:16

and and Stephen right I would go

1:05:18

see all the communities I've you my one

1:05:20

of my first jobs When

1:05:23

I was in college I was

1:05:25

a 19 year old Doorman,

1:05:27

I wasn't big enough to be a bouncer whatever but

1:05:29

I was a doorman yeah, that's it at Stanford and

1:05:31

Sons Comedy Club No shit, yeah,

1:05:33

Craig Glazer. Yeah, Craig Man,

1:05:36

it's a piece. God bless rest in peace There was a

1:05:38

club owner from we've talked about it sometimes on the

1:05:40

show But Craig Craig Craig's no longer with us and the

1:05:42

first one of the first times I ever played that

1:05:44

club He was a club owner of the club in Kansas

1:05:47

City He picked me up from the airport in a lotus

1:05:49

in a little tiny sports car they're the smallest things

1:05:51

on earth right and I'm not particularly

1:05:53

a short guy and I'm

1:05:55

cramped in this little lotus with my luggage on

1:05:57

my lap. You know my duffel bag on my

1:05:59

I laugh so quick and my neck my neck is

1:06:02

like craned like this and He's

1:06:04

like yeah, man. It's gonna be a great weekend and you're gonna

1:06:06

rip You're gonna love the new the new

1:06:08

club what we've done to the club. That's exactly how he

1:06:10

found it Spot on spot on

1:06:13

to the club Santino. You're gonna lose your

1:06:15

shit and and then I It

1:06:18

was always chase. Oh, it's smoking smoking with the windows

1:06:20

closed in the notice. He would keep them closed I

1:06:22

was like Craig can we crack the window? Yeah, and

1:06:24

he's like no, man. I'm gonna give you my getting

1:06:26

into my clothes Craig yeah, crize soaking through my soul

1:06:29

and This I'll never forget dude He picked me up in

1:06:31

the Lotus and he goes we gotta go pick up a

1:06:33

friend of mine and I and I thought how Oh to

1:06:35

seat car. Yeah, there are no other seat. Yeah, and

1:06:38

I laugh I I thought he was like

1:06:40

a joke and I go yeah Yeah, we'll put him on

1:06:42

the roof and he goes not how we do we are

1:06:44

gonna pick her up and he used to call Her black

1:06:46

Barbie that was her name. She was this beautiful young black

1:06:48

girl who is Scott. I'm not kidding She

1:06:51

was wearing heels, but even without heels maybe

1:06:53

5-11 so in heels maybe 6-3 And

1:06:56

I go I go oh we are really picking up that

1:06:58

yeah, you gotta pick a black Barbie You sure she'll love

1:07:00

you you're gonna love her you're gonna hang with us all

1:07:02

day. We'll get lunch This

1:07:04

young beautiful black woman comes up to the car

1:07:06

and I go Oh Ach

1:07:09

am I do you want me to get out like

1:07:11

I'm thinking should I walk? From

1:07:14

here right I get out of the car Yeah, what the fuck

1:07:16

are you doing and I was like what you

1:07:18

don't sit on my lap? How is this happening? Yeah, and he

1:07:20

goes out out. She'll get in the back. Don't worry about it

1:07:22

She's like I've been in the back before I'll do it, and

1:07:24

I was like Please don't get in the back of it. I

1:07:26

was like can I just walk to the hotel? Please

1:07:29

look Craig you're making it worse. No he's in the

1:07:31

bank. So his style. That was so him He's like

1:07:33

come on get in the back, baby Get in the

1:07:35

back and this poor woman is like crawling in the

1:07:37

back. I'm like no no dude I'm gonna walk it's

1:07:39

a mile or so away I'm gonna walk and he

1:07:41

was like not out no walk come on man too

1:07:43

cold to walk so I'm like you so

1:07:45

I'd roll into Town so I worked there when

1:07:47

I was in college or whatever, but then when

1:07:49

I came back doing stand-up The

1:07:52

same thing but when we go do the radio you

1:07:54

know tour the radio shows for to promote the other

1:07:57

radio tour I know you know and and you go

1:07:59

home Yeah, and you'd hit like

1:08:01

Johnny Dares. Johnny Dares, that was the other thing.

1:08:04

And you'd walk in and they'd be like,

1:08:06

Jesus, here's Craig, you know. The whole time

1:08:08

it was just ripping on Craig. I know! He'd be like, what the hell,

1:08:10

what do you want from me? And it's not about

1:08:12

you! At some point, you're like, am I plugging my show? Exactly.

1:08:15

At the very end of this hour-long, you

1:08:17

know, fuck on Craig, they'd go, and Riggle,

1:08:19

you're going to be at the club this

1:08:21

weekend, right? I think so, unless

1:08:23

I should just leave. Yeah, Craig, am I here? I

1:08:25

always hated that. Yeah, they would rag on him for

1:08:27

the longest time. You're going to love radio. And I

1:08:30

would do four of them. And he'd be like, you've

1:08:32

got to be up five o'clock in your hallway, ready

1:08:34

to rock. And I'd be miserably hungover

1:08:36

and tired. I was like, everybody in this fucking town

1:08:38

knows I'm here. We're done. We're done. It's over. No,

1:08:41

man, I've got to know, man. One

1:08:43

time I remember he was like, we're building a catwalk. Wait till you

1:08:45

see a fuck. We're going to build a fucking catwalk. And

1:08:47

I was like, are you doing

1:08:49

like modeling shows? Why would we? He's like,

1:08:51

no, rockstar comics need catwalks. He always thought

1:08:54

like he had this way about him that

1:08:56

he almost, even if you knew he was

1:08:58

wrong, he would convince you like, I don't

1:09:00

know, maybe that's a fucking good idea. And

1:09:02

you really do to appreciate Craig, you had

1:09:04

to appreciate the fact that he ran hot

1:09:06

and loose. Yeah, he was absurd. Yeah. He'd

1:09:08

been to the federal pen. He

1:09:11

had lived a life. Let's just say that.

1:09:13

He had lived a life. He was a

1:09:15

distributor at one point. He lived

1:09:17

a hard, fast life. Fast

1:09:19

lane life. Yeah, dude. So if

1:09:22

you were with him, it was always just a character study.

1:09:24

Yeah, no, honestly, and it was what not to do. It

1:09:26

was kind of, and God bless, rest in peace. Yeah, rest

1:09:28

in peace. You know, the guy was always good to me.

1:09:30

Those guys that gave me my start. I'm not saying I

1:09:32

didn't mean to make that sound like I was picking on

1:09:34

him, but I just want people to know he ran loose

1:09:36

the fast. So when you were with him, it was like

1:09:38

being shot out of a cannon. Yeah. Well, like

1:09:40

those guys that gave like who were some other clubs

1:09:42

that like gave you the shot when you were young,

1:09:44

like who gave you a spot?

1:09:47

You know, like was he one of the guys

1:09:49

that like kind of put you on earlier

1:09:51

than you should have? Maybe, yeah. Yes. I

1:09:53

will say that. Yes, I shouldn't have been

1:09:55

headlining. Yeah. And he let me. Same for

1:09:58

me. It was really great. He let me headline. and

1:10:00

he's like, you're fine, dude. You just

1:10:02

ramble for 20 more. I think he

1:10:04

was very gracious about that. There was a

1:10:06

couple, like New York, stand

1:10:10

up New York there on 79th and Broadway.

1:10:13

They were pretty nice to me. UCB Theater was

1:10:15

gracious. Slipper Room, a lot of New York,

1:10:18

Piano Room, like a lot of New York. Put you on a

1:10:20

little bit. Who gave me stage time. What

1:10:22

about you in performing now? Well

1:10:25

now, I haven't done stand up in, god, 10 years.

1:10:27

I know, but why not? Honest

1:10:30

truth was I got Fox NFL, and

1:10:33

I was making

1:10:35

enough money from that that

1:10:38

it kind of made up for the stand

1:10:40

up. Because I wasn't making much money. I

1:10:42

was doing club acts. I wasn't selling out

1:10:44

theaters or anything. But you could now though.

1:10:46

Maybe, maybe, but my set is obviously way

1:10:48

too old and it's tired. I've

1:10:50

run it all across the country. Let's get you humming again, baby.

1:10:52

I got to create a new set. And I

1:10:54

remember creating that first set. That

1:10:56

was, to me, it was a beast. It

1:10:58

took like a year and a half to get that 45, 50 minutes. Great,

1:11:02

yeah. And I was like, god, that, you

1:11:04

know. So the thought of diving

1:11:06

back in. And the thing was, when I started

1:11:08

the stand up, it was in New York, and

1:11:10

you could hit New York City, you

1:11:13

could hit five mics a night. Yeah, totally. And

1:11:15

all you'd do is jump in a cabin, bing,

1:11:17

bang, boom. You could get the work.

1:11:20

Here, I live way out, way out

1:11:22

in the burbs. I live way

1:11:24

out there. And so I'd have to drive all the

1:11:26

way in to maybe get a five minute spot at

1:11:28

one place, and then I'd have to put my name

1:11:30

on that. And then haul ass maybe

1:11:33

to a second place. Sure. And

1:11:35

get my name on that list maybe for another five minutes.

1:11:38

So you're talking about hours for

1:11:41

maybe a total of 10 minute stage time. Too much.

1:11:43

In LA, it's tough. It is, I know, but you're at

1:11:45

a level where you could. I mean, I've said that too.

1:11:47

We have mutual friends, of course. We have, Sarah

1:11:50

Tiana's probably our closest bond. And we've

1:11:52

talked many times about you, and about

1:11:55

because your brain, the way it works, and

1:11:57

your comedic past. I've always thought, I've

1:11:59

said that. I was like I wonder if he

1:12:01

would ever dive back in and I have

1:12:03

wanted to I think you should man I

1:12:05

would love to I I it's one of those

1:12:08

things too where I gotta it's a gut check for me I

1:12:10

gotta get I kind of gotta get my isn't that kind of

1:12:12

grace it is I like being scared Yeah, that's I like that

1:12:14

dude. It's funny. I love it and I hate it. I love

1:12:16

it and I hate it But that's the best part. I know

1:12:18

I gotta I gotta kick myself in the eye Rogan used to

1:12:20

say that to me all the time by the way whenever it's

1:12:22

like Right before I go on

1:12:24

stage sometimes when I was touring they me be like smoke this joint with

1:12:26

me I'm like, I don't want to he's like you're afraid to be scared

1:12:29

And I was like, all right, dude Well,

1:12:32

you know the buttons the ball, but it would work because he

1:12:34

was true He's like it would work doing me like do it

1:12:36

do it like it would have worked on it It's like a

1:12:38

fun experiment. He's like you're comfortable so put yourself

1:12:41

in a little uncomfortable position and see how well you get

1:12:43

out of it and it was kind of like a

1:12:45

trick of And it

1:12:47

wasn't like substances the way to trick yourself I got it

1:12:49

was just one little thing of him going see how uncomfortable

1:12:51

you are Here's an obstacle to see how you navigate it

1:12:53

and yeah, and it actually sometimes I was like wow this

1:12:55

fucking rad Because it was heavy it feels heavy and then

1:12:57

you're like, alright, I know how to do this I know

1:13:00

how to figure there is something I will

1:13:02

say what I do miss It's

1:13:04

not the life because you know, the life

1:13:06

is shit life is hard. Yeah Yeah,

1:13:09

but what I did miss is the

1:13:11

nights when you really connected The

1:13:13

nights when you were you know, the audience

1:13:15

was ready. Yeah, you were ready

1:13:17

Yeah, and you were speaking the same way.

1:13:20

Yeah, man Those were such special nights when

1:13:22

you're humming it's a different vibration what it

1:13:24

does to you. Unfortunately is that night I

1:13:26

just can't cool cool off. I couldn't either

1:13:28

It's really and as the headline, you know

1:13:30

you you're the last guy so you good

1:13:32

night everybody one o'clock in the morning Right

1:13:34

1230, whatever it was and then

1:13:36

your adrenaline is cooking with gas So so you

1:13:38

go out with the guys that you know, we're

1:13:40

poor for food get drinks You get some drinks

1:13:43

by the time you're at some diner at five

1:13:45

in the morning Uh-huh finishing off, you know some

1:13:47

and you're like, why do I keep gaining weight? Why am I?

1:13:50

You know, why am I exhausted, you know, and

1:13:52

then you're like I gotta calm down. So you

1:13:54

burn a cigarette exactly Like it's a

1:13:56

fucking hard life So

1:13:59

I do why you're not getting back into it. That

1:14:02

being said. As long as I got milkshakes. If I

1:14:04

got milkshakes, I got a new vice. It's

1:14:06

milkshakes. We'll get that milkshake club going. I'll

1:14:09

of course put the link in the description below. I

1:14:11

want to thank the rigs for coming by. We got

1:14:13

to golf again soon. As soon as I'm back to

1:14:15

good health, I'm in bad back health

1:14:17

right now. I'm still dealing with nonsense, dude. Oh, dude.

1:14:20

I hate that. The back is everything. Yeah, I know.

1:14:22

And especially with golf, it's okay. And I've got so

1:14:24

many people who'll be like, hey, can you play? And

1:14:26

I'm like, I can't. And I want to so bad.

1:14:28

But when we do get back, you and I

1:14:30

are going to get back out and smack it again. Let me

1:14:32

know when you're feeling it, when you're feeling like you're ready. Yeah,

1:14:34

we'll get. We'll start to chill out. Let me know because you're

1:14:36

just right down the road here, man. I know. Let's go. We'll

1:14:39

start to get back in it. RigsPix

1:14:42

is available for you to get

1:14:45

out and enjoy right now. We'll link

1:14:47

it below. If you

1:14:50

would, please, look into that camera right there.

1:14:52

We end the episode the same way with

1:14:54

one word or one phrase. It

1:14:57

depends on how much you want to divulge. It could

1:14:59

be something quick. It could be something very heartfelt and

1:15:01

meaningful. But when you're ready, into that camera, you end

1:15:03

the episode. Acted

1:15:06

non-verbal. In

1:15:09

here. In

1:15:22

here.