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Why won't you date me?
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Why won't you date me? Why
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Apart? It's a meaningful way of
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today is a hilarious comedian renowned
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just only say their own name. Honestly,
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I wish all animals did. Instead of barking,
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I wish my dog was like, a dog!
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I'm a dog! To me,
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it would be funny. That's right.
3:13
And it's just like, yeah, it's
3:15
self-aware and it's communicative. It
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would be really effective. I
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think so. Zach, okay. Do you remember
3:23
your first crush? Oh,
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fun. Well, my
3:28
mother said that I went to a school play,
3:32
like a field trip when I was like
3:34
five or something and I came home, I
3:36
think it was like Cinderella or
3:39
something, or maybe Sleeping Beauty. And
3:41
I came home and I was like, mom,
3:44
I saw this woman. She's the most beautiful.
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I'm in love. But I have
3:49
no recollection of that. So that might just be kind
3:51
of a pocketful mom talk. And
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for me, there was this girl
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named Kirsten in third
3:59
grade. who had had
4:02
a pretty hard life I know
4:05
and she was so to my
4:08
little third grade brain so
4:10
beautiful and seemed kind of
4:12
like this you know crushes are
4:14
just like exercises in projection right so
4:17
I feel like to my third grade
4:19
brand I remember thinking like she this
4:22
candle burns brighter than the rest of
4:24
the candles on the cake it's like
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she's just like giving off a different
4:28
voltage she just seemed like like you
4:30
know for a romantic
4:32
description of a human being
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in terms of digital pixels
4:37
yeah motion smoothing
4:39
for a Q
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LED baby but
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I just remember and then
4:46
also feeling that she was
4:48
quite yeah quite also
4:52
vulnerable at the same time and I remember
4:54
finding that to be like you know
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I didn't I didn't know the word vulnerable but
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I think that feeling of like oh you're like
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you're both kind of ferocious
5:04
and soft was
5:06
like pretty irresistible and
5:08
has you know way continued
5:10
to be irresistible did you act on
5:13
your crush or did you just love
5:15
from afar yeah no way I
5:17
was scared I wasn't talking but you
5:19
know it's funny like oh
5:21
man so one of my the first crush
5:23
I really acted on this is okay there
5:26
was this this other girl interestingly
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named Kristen
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strange different different
5:33
girl and we had this science
5:36
teacher in seventh
5:39
grade who his big
5:41
claim to fame was that he died on
5:43
the beach he was like he'd
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be like I was dead on the beach and
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then I came back and and that
5:49
was his he had a lot of
5:51
swagger about having been previously dead but
5:53
anyway he would sometimes to my mind
5:56
I remember him saying like weird stuff
5:58
in class about Kristen Maybe that's I
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don't I don't want to slander someone
6:02
who's been you know He's
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been through it. He died on a beach
6:08
and beaches are happy places. That's exactly right
6:10
but anyway, that's neither here nor there we
6:12
were in science class with this guy who had been dead before
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and I
6:16
was so crazy about this
6:19
girl and She
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had a boyfriend who was I think he went
6:24
on to join the Marines or something He was
6:26
this like very tough guy who rode quads and
6:28
he was so nice He was like really nice
6:30
to me and I'd always make jokes about I
6:33
was gonna beat him up and he would play
6:35
along Cuz I was obviously like a worm person
6:37
and he was this like strong American boy, man
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anyway, I got
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a recording of moonlight sonata
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Beethoven's moonlight sonata and
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I plugged in a microphone to
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a cassette player and I
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put on moonlight sonata and
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I recorded myself over moonlight
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sonata Professing my love
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to Kristen. This is a seventh grade like
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some sort of like 19th
7:05
century vampire person like like
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like I Don't
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know. Yeah, right like an 18th
7:15
century slob with like very poor
7:17
boundaries but anyway, so so I
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I put this on and I was I was Speaking
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into the microphone and I recorded it and then
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I brought the tape to school to give to
7:28
her and then I chickened
7:30
out and I and and this is an
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early days of Amazon Amazon comm to a
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CD of moonlight sonata and I just Wrote
7:37
to my elegant friend Adorable
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to my elegant friend. She was probably
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like elegant. I'm elegant. Who's that? He
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was elegant. I stand by that And
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then did she respond was she like I
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love this I am elegant. She was really
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nice She was like, oh, that's so sweet. She was
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she was totally lovely about it But I
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remember right in advance of that saying to my family Oh
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my god, there's this girl and I'm so crazy
8:02
about her and he's like ask her out to
8:04
breakfast And I was like
8:06
what? He's like ask
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her to breakfast. It's interesting and I was like, I'm
8:11
not gonna fucking ask her to breakfast That makes no
8:13
sense. He's like, well then just ask her out and
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I said no I'm not gonna ask her out and
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he goes why not I
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said, well, she might say no and it'd be humiliating
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and he went ah He
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said getting rejected is disappointing
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but not asking is humiliating
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and it was like oh But
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then I still didn't ask I Like
8:35
that not asking is humiliating. Yeah, cuz
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it's To quote the
8:39
office you miss shots that you don't take.
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Oh, I butchered it. Uh, you
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know what I mean I
8:46
know what you mean. Um, I like
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that ask her to breakfast I
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would love to see two seventh
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graders out at like a cafe
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having like croissants and decaf coffee.
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That makes me Infinitely
8:59
happy. I love that so much and then
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I love that you gave her a CD
9:04
you I feel like you were older
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than you Cuz
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I feel like that's a very I don't know
9:10
older person thing to do or maybe it's a
9:13
high school thing It's a geriatric thing to do
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it. You know, we should give like Beethoven's a
9:17
lot of but okay I think I have a
9:19
question for you Nicole. So here's my question. Mm-hmm
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Your first crush right first of
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all, yes Describe and
9:27
then also if you could
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go back And
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shoot your shot with your first crush as
9:34
a kid again What
9:36
which how would you do it now? You
9:38
know, I mean if you could kind of
9:40
yeah, Sierra know yourself as a as a
9:42
kid How would you do
9:44
it? What would you recommend in terms of
9:46
your approach to that crush? That's
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a very good question. My first
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crushes Were
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famous people like I loved Harvey
9:56
Keitel. I loved Joe Pesci and
9:59
I loved John Luke Picard from
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Star Trek but
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my first in-person crush was this kid
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Matt. I loved this
10:07
kid so much and
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I just thought he was so cute and
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he was little and compact and
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I remember we were walking to the library once and
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I was like oh I want to hold his hand
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and then I never said anything so I think if
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I could go back in time I would be like
10:24
just hold his hand just ask ask if he could
10:26
hold his hand and maybe maybe he'll
10:28
kiss you or something but also maybe you just
10:31
get to hold someone's hand and that's nice. That's
10:33
such a sweet impulse
10:36
of like I
10:38
just want to hold his hand. I
10:40
love holding hands. It's really
10:42
sweet. Yeah. It's it
10:44
can be so vulnerable though because it's
10:47
like your hand sweats and it's like and the
10:49
amount of pressure and the length and the whole
10:51
thing it's like it's a complicated language and whole
10:53
thing I think. Yes. But that's
10:55
so sweet to ask. When I need people
10:57
I like to hold hands crossing the street
10:59
because it's like a car might hit us
11:02
and for whatever reason holding a
11:04
hand makes me feel safe. That's
11:07
really nice. What what
11:09
else like what are other small things that
11:11
make you feel safe? I
11:14
like when someone hugs me on the side like they're
11:16
just like oh I feel like hugging you I'll hug
11:18
you like a nice tight hug and then like let
11:20
you go and that makes me feel like oh you
11:22
were thinking of me and you wanted me close to
11:25
you and that's nice. I
11:27
think both hand holding and side hugs share
11:29
a thing which is you're still
11:31
facing out towards the world side
11:34
by side and I
11:36
guess I feel like at their best for
11:38
me at least relationships kind of feel that
11:40
way where it's like oh I feel a
11:42
little safer a little warmer a little more
11:44
alive or a lot more alive but we're
11:47
we haven't just devolved into
11:49
total navel-gazy kind of
11:52
you know you're still facing out into your
11:54
lives but you're but you're holding on to
11:56
each other that's that's it's a
11:58
comforting It's
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yeah, it's comforting. Yeah, I think so
12:02
cuz I don't love like super PDA Like I
12:05
don't need anyone in my face the whole time
12:07
But I like being you know, like you're sitting
12:09
at a restaurant and it's just like a little
12:11
knee squeeze like that's nice. I Heard
12:14
this thing that I thought was so interesting I
12:16
don't remember who said this but
12:18
they said that like Americans are only
12:20
okay with public sexuality when it's commercial
12:23
And I was like, that's so fascinating. So they're like
12:25
at the Super Bowl halftime show Whatever,
12:28
you know Katy Perry can gyrate
12:30
or do you know there
12:32
could be things where people sort of Santa the Do
12:35
some sort of approximation of masturbating or
12:37
having sex or whatever in it at
12:39
a concert at the Super Bowl But
12:42
if you were to see a couple
12:44
who were madly in love with each
12:46
other at a restaurant do anything like
12:48
that you would be like that's totally
12:52
Horrible and inappropriate and you could make
12:54
a strong case that actually it's the
12:56
other way around The satellite.
12:58
Yeah, this kind of commercial It's
13:01
a creepy thing and the thing between the two
13:03
people is sweet but I would have the same
13:05
reaction like if I saw people like air humping
13:07
in a Air
13:11
humping in a jiffy lube you like these are Christ. What
13:14
are we doing here? That's
13:17
so funny. You're absolutely right Yeah,
13:20
like I don't think about you know,
13:22
gyrating humping the floor whatever like
13:24
my like my miming sex on stage
13:27
But yeah, if I saw a couple
13:29
doing that over pizza, I'd be
13:31
like, are you fucking kidding get a
13:33
room, right? Isn't that interesting? It
13:36
is interesting. Yeah So
13:39
you would just say go ask his name was Matt.
13:41
Did you say Matt? His name is Matt You
13:44
would add and he's compact you said he was a little
13:46
guy. Yeah, he was real little He's a
13:48
little mini. Yeah a little mini a
13:50
little short King if you will a little
13:53
Polly pocket Put it
13:55
right in my pocket And
13:58
so you would have said hey, can I hold your hand? Mm-hmm.
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Yeah, I think that's what I was saying.
14:02
And I don't think he would say no
14:04
because we were like walking having a nice
14:06
time I was gonna
14:09
ask out this guy In
14:11
present time I met him on a plane
14:14
and we talked for the whole
14:16
four hours of the flight Whoa, and then
14:18
we exchanged numbers and then I was like,
14:20
hey Why don't we do this thing and
14:22
he was like I'd love to and then
14:24
I like texted him a couple
14:26
days after the flight And then he was like
14:28
kind of cold and then I was like Why
14:32
why did that happen? I don't
14:34
understand men and I don't understand people. Okay.
14:36
I have a few thoughts about that
14:39
in questions When
14:41
you talked on the plane, I mean I assume if you're
14:43
talking for four hours you're getting in kind of deep Yeah,
14:46
I know pretty personal things about him.
14:48
I showed him pictures of my grandpa really
14:52
Yeah Cuz I was coming from
14:54
Chicago and I had just seen my grandpa and
14:56
he honestly is the cutest person
14:58
in the whole world So I do like
15:00
showing pictures of him to people I
15:03
think look I had this experience once Did
15:05
you ever see those like before sunset before
15:07
sunrise? I was like Julie Delpy Ethan Hawke
15:09
movies where they're like on a train and
15:11
they have this kind of fly-by-night
15:14
romance I I know
15:16
the story. Yeah, but I don't I
15:18
haven't seen the movie. I
15:20
was on a train once from It
15:23
was somewhere in Europe. I can't remember was like
15:25
Belgium to London or something I was working in
15:27
Europe and I was seated across
15:29
from this woman who
15:32
I thought was really pretty and we
15:35
started talking and It
15:39
was a similar situation where we talked for
15:41
such a long time and it got really
15:43
emotional I think at one point both of
15:45
us were kind of crying about something and
15:47
it was but we never I don't
15:50
think we ever learned each other's names
15:52
I Don't know if
15:54
we ever like I think we just started talking and
15:57
then I don't know if we ever introduced you ourselves
15:59
We definitely did didn't know each other's last names.
16:01
And she turned out she had kids and
16:04
a family and everything, but it kinda didn't
16:06
matter. It wasn't like, I wasn't thinking like,
16:08
we're gonna actually hook up. It was more
16:10
just this like very like romantic kind of
16:12
interlude. And then she stood
16:15
up and I stood up and we hugged and it
16:17
was like a real goodbye. Like it was so weird.
16:19
It was a real hello and it was a real
16:21
goodbye. And then we just like, I still remember the
16:23
moment of walking away from around this train station and
16:25
being like, whoa. I
16:28
think there's so much permission with
16:31
strangers and in transit to
16:33
be a version of yourself that
16:35
you maybe aren't comfortable being otherwise.
16:38
And I think there can be like a
16:40
real vulnerability hangover. Like interestingly,
16:42
I met my current girlfriend on a plane
16:45
and we talked for the whole time, but
16:47
I think there's a way in which like
16:50
after the fact there could be a
16:52
kind of like morning after where
16:55
you feel like you've been a little too naked or
16:57
you've been a little too, and I
17:00
think it could be scary to be
17:02
accountable to the version of yourself that
17:04
you let slip in that context. Maybe,
17:06
maybe that's it. But I
17:08
mean, I did text him, I was like,
17:10
what are you doing? And he said, watch
17:12
an Oppenheimer. And I said, I heard it
17:14
bombed. Do you get it? Ha
17:17
ha ha ha ha ha ha ha. And
17:20
then you never heard from him again. No,
17:23
he just hearted it. And I was like,
17:25
okay, well, I guess you didn't like
17:28
that. So wait, what
17:30
happened after the flight? Who reached
17:32
out to who? I reached out immediately
17:35
at baggage claim because I was like, can
17:37
I have your number? And then I texted
17:39
her immediately. So I didn't have a chance
17:41
to get like, like
17:43
I was sort of already, I was sort of ahead.
17:46
But even then I was like going on
17:48
that first date after, I felt like a
17:50
lot of a degree
17:52
of trepidation is it's just you've revealed a
17:54
lot of yourself, you know? And
17:57
I don't know, but who knows that's the truth.
18:00
mystifying thing is like with other
18:02
people you just will never know. It
18:07
is hard because I broke up
18:09
with somebody a while ago at this
18:11
point and I was like but
18:13
like why don't you like me anymore and
18:15
you can't just ask somebody that you can't
18:17
just be like what happened you talk to
18:20
me all the time and you seem to
18:22
really like me and now you don't what
18:24
happened and then I can't ask this plane
18:26
man hey you seem to really like me
18:28
for four hours what happened what happened you
18:31
mean when you broke up with somebody you felt like
18:34
if they were to ask you that it would be like out of
18:36
bounds well I feel like if
18:38
I asked them that it would
18:40
be sad it's
18:43
sad to be like why don't you like me
18:45
and I want to ask everybody I've ever dated
18:47
like what was the thing that
18:50
happened because I don't think it necessarily is
18:52
me all the time like it's a
18:54
them thing it's their life but it's like well
18:56
what happened what changed in your brain I'm thinking
18:59
about it I guess I think in times where
19:01
I've wanted out
19:03
of a romantic situation it
19:06
usually isn't because of some defect in
19:08
the other person it's like our
19:12
Lego pieces don't fit together anymore
19:14
but it's not because they're something
19:17
like noxious about them because presumably
19:19
if it's someone you're dating it's someone who you
19:21
like like and we're drawn to you know I
19:23
don't know I mean I guess it happens right
19:26
like people reveal themselves in
19:28
ways that then other people are put off by
19:30
but I don't know
19:32
my shrink said this thing to me once where
19:34
she was like most of life is uncertainty and
19:37
so deciding
19:39
to fill in those blanks with like
19:42
happier stories will
19:45
make your life much better she's like
19:47
when you when you know there's
19:49
no way to know the answer decide that it's
19:51
something good I was
19:53
like I try to do that but
19:55
it's hard that is nice but
19:57
I get to it's been like raining So
20:00
like when the Sun isn't out I get
20:02
like sad and then I go it's me.
20:04
I did it I
20:06
did something that they didn't like but then also
20:08
it's like I don't actually know So maybe I
20:11
should make it a happier thing and be like
20:13
well, I don't know I
20:15
don't know what the happier thing is right now, but
20:17
I should frame it My therapist also is
20:19
like you need to reframe things and not fill in
20:22
the blanks Well, especially if
20:24
you're in the habit of filling in the blanks
20:26
always with a story of your own inadequacy That's
20:28
where that's I had a nasty habit of doing
20:30
that and still do sometimes and so I've tried
20:32
I'm trying to do less of that, but I
20:35
think Yeah, like it's a
20:37
mad lib where the answer is always I suck Terrible
20:41
I'm the worst I'm
20:44
unlovable and then my therapist is like that's not
20:46
true Don't you have friends and I'm like my
20:48
friends don't fuck me and she's like, I mean
20:50
have you asked and I'm like, oh That's
20:53
funny, but I don't want to fuck any of
20:55
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Do you have crushes on your friends? I
23:28
don't think I have romantic crushes on my friends.
23:30
Like, I went and saw my friend in a
23:33
play, and I was watching her, and
23:35
I had this dumb smile on my face because I was
23:37
so proud of her. And she was doing
23:39
such a wonderful job, and she was being funny
23:41
and vulnerable and just, like, good. So,
23:43
like, while – like, after it was done, she's
23:45
a very good friend of mine, and I know
23:47
her very well. And, like, again, couldn't stop smiling,
23:49
and I was staring at her, and I was
23:51
like, oh, my God, I – like, I genuinely
23:53
love you and your talent and your heart so
23:55
much. So, those are the kind of crushes I get
23:57
on my friends where I just get so full.
24:00
of like joy. And then
24:02
I once asked someone to be my friend, which
24:04
I think is a vulnerable thing as an adult
24:07
that we don't do often. And I burst
24:09
into tears when she was like, Yeah, I'll hang out with you
24:11
and be your friend. And she was like, Whoa, whoa, a
24:13
lot of emotion. I was like, I know I can't
24:16
help it. I just feel a lot. I
24:18
mean, I think that's really beautiful.
24:20
It's also annoying. Yeah, it's tiring.
24:23
It's a lot. And then it requires
24:25
I don't know for you, but like, like,
24:28
sometimes if I'm in a time when
24:30
I'm feeling especially sensitive, then I'll find that
24:32
like, I spent a lot of time trying
24:34
to sort of numb myself in ways that
24:36
I don't necessarily always like. And so that
24:38
part of it kind of blows. But it
24:41
sounds like this isn't something you really struggle with
24:43
necessarily. But like, the kind of
24:45
tyranny of being chill or whatever, or
24:47
like being, you know,
24:49
a good time, like things I flocking
24:51
can't stand like, I guess
24:53
no one says this anymore. But there was a time where
24:56
people would say like, TMI. And I
24:59
was like, Yeah, shut the fuck up.
25:03
It's like any I feel like any I
25:05
like never enough. Like, info, I always want
25:07
to know. And and when
25:09
people sort of make their
25:12
discomfort your problem, it drives
25:14
me. I mean, I think if
25:16
you're making someone uncomfortable, you want to know that
25:18
and respond accordingly. But when they TMI seems to
25:20
imply that like, you should have known not to
25:23
say this thing. And I'm always like, like,
25:26
it is the messy parts of people that
25:28
are the most like, enthralling
25:30
and, and exciting
25:32
and funny and stupid. And like,
25:35
why? So being a kind of, I
25:38
don't know, like a sloppy, I don't
25:42
know, I'm walking off the pier of the sentence
25:44
and hitting the salt water. I think I get it.
25:47
I don't really like I know I
25:49
do TMI. I know I, I
25:52
over explained myself I, I say
25:55
dumb things. I don't
25:57
think things through before I save them. But like,
26:00
I wouldn't want to be any other way. And
26:03
I also really like when people tell me too much.
26:05
I like when people tell me that they're feeling vulnerable
26:08
or they feel hurt. Like I had a conversation
26:10
with a friend where we kept missing each other
26:12
with our schedules and then she texted me and
26:14
was like, I feel, what
26:18
did she say? Is it something to the effect
26:20
of like, I feel like you're avoiding me. And
26:22
I was like, whoa, no. And
26:24
then I was so happy that she said that so
26:26
that we could just have an open dialogue. But had
26:28
she not shared her feelings, she would have been feeling
26:30
this type of way and I wouldn't have known. So
26:33
I like when people explain their feelings and
26:35
I like when people are silly.
26:38
Like I was dating this person and I
26:41
sent them voice notes every morning with my
26:43
morning voice being like, good morning. Which
26:46
I think is funny. And I don't know if they liked it
26:48
at all, but they were
26:50
okay with my weird shit.
26:52
And then when you send
26:54
a voice note, it says
26:56
kept underneath. So I
26:59
thought they were keeping my voice
27:01
notes. And at one point I
27:04
was like joking around, I was like, oh, you probably
27:06
listened to all my voice notes, da da da da.
27:08
And he's like, what do you mean? And I was
27:10
like, cause you're keeping them. And he was like, no,
27:12
I'm not. And I was like, it says kept right
27:14
here. And he's like kept in the conversation. It just
27:16
means I listened to it. And I was like, oh
27:18
no. And then I immediately started crying.
27:20
Cause I was like this whole time I thought
27:23
you were keeping them and listening to them. And
27:25
then he like laughed cause he was like, this
27:27
is such a big emotional reaction to nothing. And
27:29
I was like, I know. But
27:31
then we like laughed about it later. And
27:33
it's like, if I didn't have that big, dumb emotional
27:36
reaction, then like we wouldn't have a funny little joke
27:38
to joke about later. I don't know. You do
27:40
have to keep them. I just wanna joke. I
27:42
thought you had to click keep. I
27:45
thought you had to click. No. No? When
27:47
did that change? I
27:50
don't know, but I thought it went into like a
27:52
bank or like you could find them later. That's not
27:54
it. Keep just means it's kept
27:56
in the conversation. I
28:00
don't know, I'm skeptical. And I was like, you're keeping them, you're listening
28:02
to them. So
28:05
when there have been people who are
28:07
just like on
28:09
board, who are just like, I love
28:11
you and I'm on
28:13
up for the, you know,
28:15
full spectrum. Does
28:18
that, are you able to, maybe
28:20
this is to, are
28:22
you able to receive that? Like sometimes
28:24
that makes me squirrely. Like I get, it
28:27
freaks me out. I think
28:29
it makes me a little squirrely too
28:31
because when someone's like, oh,
28:33
I accept your weird stuff. I
28:35
accept you. I like all of you.
28:37
I'm like, wait a minute, but you're
28:40
going to find something bad eventually. And
28:42
guess what? Everybody has
28:44
or hasn't. I don't know. That's
28:46
me filling in the blanks. But
28:49
yeah, being super vulnerable is not a thing
28:51
I like. I don't like it at all.
28:54
I truly will die before I tell
28:56
another person. I love them romantically. I'll
28:59
die before I'm like, oh, will you be
29:02
my boyfriend? Like I, I simply can't do
29:04
it. Because what
29:06
happens after you just feel well
29:08
because people go, okay. And
29:11
then they go, nevermind. I break up with
29:13
you. And then I go, okay. Well, I
29:16
guess I was vulnerable for no reason. Do
29:19
you feel like you're worse off for having had
29:21
those experiences? You
29:23
know, that is an interesting
29:25
question. I don't know. I
29:28
just know that like having
29:31
someone around and like watching
29:34
TV with them is nice. And then
29:36
when it's gone, you're like, huh, I
29:38
don't have that comfort. I don't have
29:40
that person that made me laugh. I
29:44
have a friend who had this
29:46
big, beautiful, great Dane dog. It
29:50
was enormous, you know, like bigger than
29:52
like made other great Danes look small.
29:55
And he was this sweet guy. And the guy who, who
29:58
was, who had this dog was. was also a
30:00
giant, beautiful man. And
30:03
the dog got old
30:05
and the dog died. And
30:08
I talked to him about it afterwards.
30:10
And he said this thing that really
30:12
stuck with me where he was like,
30:14
well, buy the ticket, take
30:16
the ride. And I
30:19
was like, oh man, I guess it's just another
30:21
version of like better to have loved and lost,
30:23
blah, blah, blah. But something about buy the ticket,
30:25
take the ride. I was like, right,
30:27
like you opt in, I think heartbreak
30:30
is just like a feature. I
30:33
had years and years ago, same
30:35
shrink, I was
30:37
falling in love and I was kind of, I
30:40
felt like dread. I felt
30:42
kind of queasy and dread. And
30:44
I was telling my therapist, she goes, well,
30:47
first of all, it's called falling in love.
30:49
You are falling. And she
30:51
said, the other thing is, the
30:53
second you start to love someone, there's a
30:55
part of you that knows either
30:58
consciously or unconsciously that one day you will
31:00
lose them. You will lose them to growth
31:03
in different directions. You will lose them to
31:05
death. You will lose them to circumstance, but
31:07
there will always be a moment of departure.
31:10
And so as you're
31:13
dizzy and giddy, there's also
31:16
this dawning awareness of the
31:18
proportional loss that is
31:21
an unavoidable feature of loving
31:24
someone. Yeah, it's an
31:26
interesting question. Whether the
31:28
scar tissue is
31:30
too much, I don't know. I
31:34
guess what I'm asking is when you felt like you've been
31:36
really in love with people and
31:38
they've been really in love with you, once
31:41
the pain diminishes
31:43
and you're left with a memory that
31:46
isn't just spring-loaded with agony, then
31:51
does it then feel like, oh, I'm glad I went
31:53
on that trip. Or does it
31:55
feel like that was too costly? I
31:57
don't know if it feels too costly. It's
32:00
like I'm glad I went on that trip,
32:02
but then I'm like how come the trip
32:04
ended. I have a real problem with change
32:06
and I think
32:09
it's like my spectrum II thing where I'm like, oh I
32:11
want you to tell me exactly What
32:14
happened and why? So
32:17
then maybe I can start to understand But
32:19
then I do a fun thing where you
32:22
can tell me something and then I will
32:24
interpret it a different way And
32:27
then it doesn't matter that you told me
32:29
your truth because I've twisted it into something
32:31
else that makes sense to me But
32:33
to answer your question, I guess I don't really
32:35
like regret any of the people I've had
32:40
Relationships I've never really had like a
32:42
real real relationship where both parties were
32:44
like this is a relationship and it's
32:46
fun I've just
32:49
dated people for like a you
32:51
know amounts of time But
32:54
like Yeah, I don't
32:56
I don't regret it. I don't think so That's
32:59
good. Right? And then you know, eventually
33:01
you get over it and then you go.
33:03
Okay. Well Where's
33:06
the next one? Do you
33:08
ever miss missing a person like There's
33:13
some song what's the magnetic fields or something? I don't
33:15
want to get over you where they like they did
33:17
rather kind of wallow in the heartbreak for a while
33:19
Like do you have that? I Don't
33:22
think so. I've never been like oh, I
33:25
don't miss them anymore. I wish I was
33:27
sad again Think
33:34
I've had the experience before I'm thinking like
33:36
is there something wrong with me that at
33:38
this moment I don't feel more acutely sad
33:41
Like am I insensitive am I you know,
33:43
but then inevitably like it'll be two weeks
33:46
later and you know The thing it was
33:48
just have been postponed or it'll the feeling
33:50
that I wasn't feeling at that moment
33:52
will arrive in a Unpredictable
33:54
way, but there's times where I kind of
33:56
judge my own numb
33:59
feelings But that's a
34:01
little bit different, I think, than kind
34:04
of nostalgia for heartbreak.
34:07
I also, when I break up with people or when people break
34:09
up with me, I'm then reminded of them
34:12
all the time. Like I broke up
34:14
with this guy and let's say
34:16
his last name was Jones. It
34:18
wasn't. I'm protecting his anonymity. Okay.
34:21
So then I was driving in Pennsylvania
34:23
and I kept seeing signs that were
34:26
like, this highway was adopted by the
34:28
Jones family. And then I saw his
34:30
last name just again and again and
34:33
again. And
34:35
I was driving from like one gig to the
34:37
next and I was like, why? Why
34:39
is this happening? And it happens all
34:42
the time. Every time I break up with somebody,
34:44
I see their name everywhere. And I'm like, why
34:46
universe? This is not nice. You're
34:48
being bullied by the municipality
34:50
where you were driving and
34:52
also by God. But
34:57
John Bryan is this...he
34:59
wrote the soundtrack for Eternal
35:01
Sunshine of the Spout of This Mind. I
35:04
think he's amazing. And he wrote the
35:06
song. And I think writing a
35:08
song for a movie with lyrics is a pretty
35:10
impossible task to do that and have it not
35:12
be like cringy and cheesy. But he wrote this
35:15
song for Eternal Sunshine of the Spout of This
35:17
Mind. And one of the lyrics
35:19
from it is, though a change
35:21
has taken place and you
35:23
no longer do adore her,
35:27
still every God forsaken
35:29
place is only right around the
35:31
corner. I probably fucked that up.
35:33
But just the idea that like, okay,
35:35
the relationship is over, but still like at
35:37
any time you can turn the corner and
35:40
be confronted with the full
35:43
agony of like, fuck, like everything. It's just like
35:45
a jack in the box. Like everything in your
35:47
life becomes a jack in the box where that
35:50
person's head can come like slinking out at you.
35:53
And that's really sucky. It
35:56
does suck. And then you go, is
35:58
the same thing. happening to them?
36:01
Do they think of me?
36:03
Do they miss me? And then
36:05
you never know the answer because you're not talking
36:07
anymore. It's interesting how much of it is
36:09
like the kind of like desire
36:12
to do a forensic analysis
36:15
of the you know to want to
36:17
investigate. I mean
36:19
I guess that the podcast is called my own sheet. Yep
36:24
I be investigating. Like if I had a
36:26
superpower I think I'd want to be invisible
36:28
to check in on everyone I've ever dated
36:30
to be like hey are you
36:32
happy? What's going on? You're fighting? What's
36:34
going on? And then I could just
36:37
go go home and be like ah
36:39
they're sad too. I
36:41
mean I think it's one of the one of
36:43
the comforts that like everyone is. I'm
36:45
maybe not predominantly sad but like I've
36:47
never met someone who isn't sad at
36:49
least some portion of the time. Like
36:51
don't you think? Like yeah
36:53
you're right. I mean I said
36:56
that's so stupid like like of course everyone is sad
36:58
at some point but I feel like sadness is a
37:00
major feature of almost everyone I know's life. I
37:03
think so especially as of late. Times
37:05
have been weird and hard. What
37:09
is something right now that like has been
37:11
making you feel good?
37:13
Like consistently good? Is there anything where
37:16
you feel like every time I do this it feels
37:18
so fucking good? Hanging out with
37:20
friends like I went to
37:22
a friend's house the other day where there was like five
37:25
of us and we were wearing comfy clothes and we
37:27
just tihi-hi'd and had a nice time and that was a
37:29
treat. But I
37:31
do need to like get in a
37:33
rhythm of a like a routine
37:36
because I'll like sleep in and then be
37:38
like oh I gotta go record or I
37:40
have to go to a voiceover and then
37:42
I'm like well I could have spent my
37:44
morning doing anything nice or
37:47
productive and I don't do that.
37:50
So and then I okay I pull
37:52
dance that makes me happy. I do
37:55
workout videos with this man named Daniel
37:57
and he tells me I can do
37:59
it. Daniel, is
38:01
he telling everyone or is he telling
38:03
you? Like, is it a one-on-one workout
38:05
class? No, no. They're just
38:08
videos on YouTube. It's called the Body
38:10
Project and then he ends it with
38:12
a fist pump in the sky and
38:14
I go, yay, we did it. Oh,
38:17
sweet. But can
38:19
I ask you about the pole dancing thing? Yeah.
38:23
I am so
38:26
shy about dancing. Mm-hmm.
38:28
A friend of mine took one of those
38:30
classes and she said, she was like, it's
38:32
the first time I've ever felt sexy independent
38:34
of being looked at by someone who found
38:36
me sexy. She's like, I felt intrinsically sexy.
38:38
Like I didn't need, she's heterosexual. She's like,
38:40
I didn't need a man there to let
38:42
me know I was sexy. I just felt
38:46
like volcanically sexy in and of myself.
38:49
But I guess what I'm curious is like, are
38:51
you shy about dancing and like, if so, how
38:53
do you get yourself to do something so... Like
38:56
pole dancing is so exposing,
38:58
obviously. I
39:01
don't really have rhythm. I do
39:03
like to dance. I don't
39:06
find myself inherently sexy. And
39:09
for me, pole dancing isn't finding my
39:11
sexuality or being sexy. I think I
39:14
like being strong and I like being impressive
39:16
and I like dropping into splits and stuff.
39:19
So for me, I guess
39:21
to me, sexy is strong. So that's why
39:23
I like doing it. And
39:26
I have this wonderful teacher named Veronica
39:29
who will like adjust things
39:31
for me if I can't do it
39:33
or she'll watch videos and be like,
39:35
let's try this or I'll send her
39:37
a video. So it's more like I
39:40
just like moving my body that way and that
39:42
brings me joy. It makes
39:44
you feel powerful and it's kind of
39:46
like, and it's impressive. And it's
39:48
sort of relying on an audience a little bit
39:50
where it's like you want people to be like,
39:52
oh fuck, look at that. Yeah,
39:55
like I'll post my Instagram and
39:57
I like comments and people go, wow, you're strong. And
39:59
I'm like, yes, I am. Don't
40:02
you love it? I knew
40:04
an actor who would post
40:07
old pictures of themselves
40:09
online when they were in a
40:11
kind of like a sexy pose
40:13
in a context, maybe it was
40:15
like on some sort of
40:18
like hot or not site or something
40:20
where there's a famous
40:22
actor. And so
40:24
that they could see what people would
40:27
think of them independent of their celebrity.
40:30
So it would be hard to identify them precisely. People
40:32
would be like, oh, this looks kind of like that
40:34
actor. But
40:38
they would read the comments because I think they
40:40
felt like, well, if it's because I'm famous, they
40:42
won't really know. I
40:45
won't know what they really think. Interesting.
40:48
Oh, yeah, interesting. That is
40:51
very interesting. Sometimes I feel
40:53
like that with comedy where
40:55
I'm like, if you get too
40:57
popular, are you still being funny
41:00
or are people just excited to
41:02
see you? I
41:06
think with stuff like that, it's always
41:08
circumstantial. Like I
41:11
used to fret more about that kind of thing, but
41:13
now I'm kind of like like I used to. OK,
41:15
this used to drive me crazy. So I'd be like,
41:17
I don't deserve my life like no
41:19
one does. And I certainly don't like it's
41:22
not a meritocracy. I don't have this job
41:24
because there is no one better for the
41:26
job. I have this job because some sort
41:28
of confluence of circumstance and hard work on
41:30
my part and some talent have
41:33
delivered me to this point.
41:36
But I felt slightly kind of tortured by
41:38
the thought of all of these like incredibly
41:41
talented artists out there who could do a
41:43
better job than me. And at some point
41:45
I was just like, well, fuck it. Like,
41:47
I don't know the like
41:49
I got the winning scratch off. So I
41:51
better like spend the
41:53
money and enjoy it. Like instead of
41:55
wringing my hands about who
41:57
might be a better you know. I
42:00
think it's also an argument for like trying to be
42:03
gracious and help other people get opportunities
42:05
and things like that. But I
42:08
guess what I'm saying is like if they're laughing
42:10
at you because they're because they like you because
42:12
you've been funny in the past, I
42:15
don't know, it
42:17
still counts. I
42:20
think so. So when you started
42:22
at UCB, did you have like,
42:25
you started when you were young. So like
42:27
when you got older, did you have like,
42:30
like audience members throwing themselves at
42:32
you? Were they like, Oh my god,
42:34
Zach, you're so funny. Take me out. Oh
42:37
my gosh, that would have been really
42:40
fun. I don't. I
42:44
don't think so. I mean, maybe,
42:47
maybe people were like, I
42:49
certainly people weren't throwing themselves at me, but maybe
42:51
it wouldn't surprise
42:53
me to know that like, I
42:56
missed signals back then. I think I
42:58
felt so weird and
43:01
like nervous. And I
43:05
just don't think my like antenna were necessarily
43:07
all that pricked for like people
43:10
being psyched about the idea
43:12
of dating me. But as
43:14
I got older, I don't know if I
43:16
ever dated someone from the
43:19
audience of a show though. Did
43:22
you did you find that like when you're starting at UCB
43:24
that like people would have
43:26
crushes on you from performing? No.
43:29
Really? No, never. I don't think
43:31
I've ever had someone be like, Oh my god,
43:33
you're so funny. I love you.
43:36
Yeah, I don't think it really
43:38
works for the ladies or
43:40
female identifying people. I don't think it works that way.
43:42
I don't think any guy is looking for a funny
43:45
woman. I think they're looking for a woman that laughs at
43:47
their jokes. But also maybe not. I
43:49
don't know. Is that true? No,
43:51
that's not true. Okay. I mean,
43:54
I don't know. Like I can't speak on behalf of
43:56
any other man. But for me like Zach,
43:58
you are the key. I'm king of the men.
44:01
You see for all of them. Finally, I'm king of
44:03
the men. No,
44:09
I think it's really fun to date
44:12
someone who's funny. Like it's a
44:14
huge benefit. You know,
44:16
I think for me the
44:18
thing that has always been important is that the
44:20
person has a sense of humor rather than they
44:22
be like a jokester. I think
44:24
like a shared feeling of what's
44:27
ridiculous about the world, each
44:29
other, yourselves, that's really important.
44:31
Being able to formulate that
44:33
into like specific jokes isn't
44:36
crucial but if someone's
44:38
good at it, it's like fun. You know, I
44:41
think that's, I don't know, I think
44:43
people, like women who are funny, it's
44:46
hugely attractive. Well, do
44:48
you have any friends, Zach Woods? Do you
44:50
have any single friends? Also no,
44:52
I don't have any friends. I
44:54
don't have any friends. No, let me think about it. No,
44:56
I don't have any friends. I kind
44:59
of don't. I'm so reclusive and
45:01
weird. I don't
45:04
know, let me think. I mean,
45:06
I won't create that error on your podcast while
45:08
I go through my mental Rolodex, but I will
45:10
think about it. No, that's fine. You don't have
45:12
to. Don't do it now, do it later. Yeah. And
45:15
then make up a big old list. I'll shoot
45:17
you over a current picture of myself. A
45:21
nice little headshot and then you can send
45:23
it out to all your friends. How
45:26
much time do you, how much time in the
45:28
day do you feel like you spent with
45:31
romantic yearning as like the chief
45:33
experience? You
45:36
know, I don't think it's like maybe
45:39
altogether 15 minutes, 20 minutes. Because
45:42
when I get in the shower, I'll be like, oh
45:44
boy, wouldn't it be nice to have someone
45:47
like a warm hug just like this
45:49
shower? Or
45:51
at night. Just to be clear,
45:53
if a hug feels like a shower,
45:56
something has gone terribly wrong. They're very
45:58
ill. They
46:00
have a fever, they're sick. They're
46:03
pissing and crying and they're
46:05
sweating uncontrollably. They're
46:09
just wet. And
46:12
then when I come home, I'm like, oh, it'd
46:14
be nice if there was someone's car there and
46:16
I knew they were inside. So
46:18
it's just like fleeting moments like that. I'm
46:22
sorry that I'm making so many references, but it's
46:24
just like how I think about things usually because
46:27
I generally don't have that
46:29
many of my own thoughts about it.
46:31
But there's this play called The Real
46:33
Thing and there's this section in that
46:35
play where this guy's talking about,
46:37
this guy's married and he says, you know, there's
46:40
these experiences you have where you'll
46:42
encounter someone. And they might
46:44
not be the most beautiful or the most
46:46
talented or the smartest, but for some reason
46:48
you just know that in another life
46:51
they would have been your person. And
46:54
which I guess is what past lives, right? That movie
46:56
is kind of about that. But anyway, and
46:58
he goes and it feels almost
47:00
impolite not to nod in a
47:02
slight acknowledgement of that, you know,
47:05
that even though your your past
47:07
will never converge, that there's some
47:09
sort of affinity there. And
47:12
I think that's such a sweet thing. Maybe
47:16
that's what it was about that woman on the
47:18
train. Sometimes through those moments where you
47:22
have this sort of glancing but profound
47:24
contact with a person and it can
47:26
feel like it's kind of a good
47:28
ache in a way. It is an
47:30
ache, but it's like, oh, do you
47:32
get that? A little.
47:34
There wasn't like an ache for him. I
47:36
was just like, oh, this could be something
47:39
interesting because I found them to be interesting
47:41
and funny. And
47:44
they didn't get all my jokes. But like if I
47:46
explain it, they'd be like, oh, that was funny. So
47:50
I was like, oh, this could be
47:52
a thing. But I
47:54
have dated people. I did it one person where I
47:56
was like, oh, if we met
47:58
like 10 years from now. I think this
48:00
would have gone better. But who knows what's
48:03
going to happen in 10 years and we probably
48:05
won't cross paths again. Or maybe we will. We'll
48:07
see. I don't know. I
48:09
would say if you had to explain your jokes to
48:11
this person, you dodged a bullet on them. Who
48:15
wants to spend their life footnoting their
48:17
own jokes? That's
48:19
a nightmare. That's a straight up
48:21
nightmare. You
48:23
know what? You're right. But also, we were
48:25
drinking vodka sodas. So maybe they were just
48:27
a little like getting
48:29
a little tipsy. But then jokes should be easier
48:32
when you're tipsy. That's right. That's right. It
48:34
shouldn't be so cognitively impairing. Oh, no. He
48:36
dodged a bullet. He dodged a bullet. Can
48:38
you imagine having to diagram all
48:40
your remarks for him?
48:43
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48:46
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51:39
that you would like to date right now?
51:41
Like a character from fiction? Okay,
51:45
this this is dumb because you were on
51:47
the show, but I would date Michael Scott
51:49
because I can't remember the
51:52
lady he ends up leaving with, but I
51:54
thought their relationship was so cute. And when
51:56
you proposed to her with all the candles,
51:58
I started sobbing.
52:03
And I was like, this is because I just
52:05
like the I like when
52:07
two weirdos meet and you see why
52:09
they fit. And that
52:12
makes me really happy. Oh my
52:16
god, am I gonna cry right now? Like
52:18
I just simply love when you see two
52:20
people, and like they have their own language,
52:22
they have their own shorthand, they can just
52:24
look at each other and they know what's
52:27
going on, or they're like, you ready? And
52:29
they're like, been ready. I just I really
52:31
like when puzzle pieces fit. Okay.
52:36
I have you ever seen the movie Jack
52:38
Goes Boating? No, that stars the woman Amy
52:40
Ryan, who plays the woman he ends up
52:42
with is in that movie is Philip Seymour
52:44
Hoffman. And it's one of these love stories
52:46
about these two kind of oddities, finding
52:49
their way to each other. And I
52:51
think it's so beautiful. Now this is
52:53
namedroppy, but I want to give her
52:55
credit. I was talking to Susan Sarandis.
52:58
And she was describing a
53:00
story and she just saw
53:02
offhandedly said, Oh, it's
53:05
one of
53:08
those like, funny foot needs a funny
53:10
issue stories. And I was like, that's such
53:12
a great way of describing it. Like funny
53:14
foot needs a funny shoe. And I think
53:17
that's the Michael Scott. That's the we're
53:19
all funny feet. We all need orthotics made
53:21
to our contours. I want a funny shoe
53:23
to fit on
53:26
my nasty little toe. I want something
53:28
that that caresses my bunions. That's all I want
53:30
to caress
53:36
my bunions. Zach, we
53:39
really have we've come to the end. I could talk to you.
53:41
Oh, my God. Really? Yes.
53:43
I hope I wasn't too emo. I
53:45
yeah, sorry if I was too emo.
53:48
Okay. I thought it was delightful. And
53:50
I don't know why you're self conscious
53:52
on podcasts. I think you speak very
53:54
eloquently and you articulate yourself very well.
53:56
And my producer Mars says you were
53:58
great. But I do. question a
54:00
query if you will do you have
54:02
any advice for me a single person
54:04
and other single people who might be
54:07
listening I
54:09
feel pretty ill-equipped
54:11
to give advice I mean
54:15
I'm like more often than not a little bit
54:17
of a broken toy
54:19
in my own but I but
54:21
I let me think okay
54:24
but I feel like that's that's a
54:26
cop-out right like this is I will
54:28
give heavily caviated advice I will say
54:30
don't listen to my advice first of
54:32
all that's my best advice and my
54:34
second best advice is to be
54:39
curious about
54:41
the version of yourself you are
54:45
with a date meaning
54:50
different people like unlock different parts
54:52
of you you know and noticing
54:54
what people unlock
54:59
in you I think if
55:02
you're someone I mean I guess
55:04
it's hard to give advice in general but
55:06
I think if you're someone who defaults towards
55:08
focusing on the other person's experience or the
55:10
other person's stories or trying to make or
55:13
or or being lovable
55:15
to the other person just being
55:17
curious about like oh if they're
55:19
a highlighter pen what passages of me
55:22
are they highlighting you know I find
55:24
myself oh I'm a little aggressive I'm
55:26
more aggressive here or oh I feel
55:28
actually much more shy than I usually
55:30
do or oh I'm laughing in a
55:32
way that I don't ordinarily like I
55:34
think just being curious about that hopefully
55:37
means that regardless of how the date
55:39
goes and a kind of
55:41
you know maybe there's no longevity maybe it's not even
55:43
a particularly enjoyable
55:46
date but at the very
55:48
least you learn about yourself you go
55:51
away with a little goodie bag of
55:53
like greater self-discovery and and
55:57
also if they make you feel really exceptional are
55:59
you really like the version of yourself
56:02
that shows up that's worth paying attention
56:05
to. Oh, wait, wait. Okay, I thought of
56:07
something better. I thought of something better. Okay.
56:09
Okay. A couples therapist once, I
56:11
asked a couples therapist, I was like, what do you
56:14
think couples can reasonably expect from each other? And
56:16
she goes three things. I was like, damn, all
56:19
right, you were ready. She goes, first of all,
56:22
you should empathize with each other and reflect
56:24
each other's experience. Right? Okay.
56:27
Seems pretty obvious. She goes, two,
56:30
you should expand each other's world. You
56:32
know, you know about old
56:34
tugboats and I know about Buster
56:38
Keaton movies and
56:40
whatever. You know, we introduce each other to
56:42
parts of the world that we were previously
56:44
unfamiliar with. And she said,
56:46
and the third thing is the person acts
56:49
as a treasury of good feeling
56:51
about you that you can
56:53
make withdrawals from when you need it.
56:55
So if I'm feeling kind of ugly
56:57
or I'm feeling kind of disappointing, this
56:59
other person is like this kind of
57:02
Fort Knox of good, a positive
57:06
regard and I can go to them and
57:08
sort of re-up on a version
57:11
of myself that I like that exists reflected
57:14
in their eyes. And I
57:16
thought that was a really nice model.
57:18
It's felt both ambitious and also modest
57:20
all at the same time. And I thought, oh, that's good.
57:23
I'll keep that in mind. I
57:25
like that. I like both versions of your
57:27
advice. I think it's nice and good. Okay.
57:30
Thank you. I think you're lovely.
57:33
I think you're lovely. You're
57:37
so, you're so, yeah, you're so
57:39
like funny and you're also so
57:41
open hearted and so sweet. It's
57:44
gotta be complicated to be like as funny as you are
57:46
and as sweet as you are at the same
57:48
time because probably it's easy to especially
57:51
with people, especially women, maybe who are super
57:53
funny. Maybe it's
57:55
connected to what you're saying about like guys don't want. I
57:59
had a friend who's rich. And she when she was dating
58:01
she wouldn't bring guys to her house because she found that
58:03
it would turn them off that she was Rich and
58:06
I was like really I was like yeah,
58:08
that makes sense because they're intimidated but but
58:11
those are obviously not guys you want to be
58:13
dating because that's That's
58:16
miserable, but I don't know. I'm on some
58:18
weird Soliloquy now, I guess I was
58:20
just saying like you're so sweet and you're so funny and
58:22
I think it's a lovely combination Thank
58:25
you, Zach. Now find someone for
58:27
me go through your Rolodex of
58:30
people and find me someone Okay.
58:33
Okay Zach. What do you want to promote? I
58:37
made a show that came out on peacock now
58:39
a while ago, but you could see it It's
58:41
called in the know and it's a stop-motion show
58:43
about MPR and I got on
58:45
social media Which I was really scared about and
58:47
I'm on social media and I'm trying to do
58:49
that now and in as Unmortifying
58:52
away as possible. So
58:54
do you're you supposed to and that's
58:56
it You can tell people what your social
58:58
media is rather not you can I'd rather
59:00
not No,
59:05
it's just my name or it's mister my name
59:07
because my name was already taken Zach
59:09
I asked all my guests this Would you date
59:11
me? Yeah Thank
59:16
you, that's validating and nice If
59:19
you like this episode of why won't you date
59:21
me you can like it you can rate it
59:23
you can subscribe give me five stars On Apple
59:25
podcasts and if you write me something nasty hitting
59:27
on me I will read it and you can
59:29
send it to why won't you date me podcast@gmail.com
59:32
and This person wrote
59:34
me and they said
59:36
let's see. I listened to your
59:38
podcast My boyfriend is a huge
59:40
fan and longtime supporter. That's nice.
59:42
Oh, they sat front row in
59:44
Milwaukee And okay, if it could
59:47
be on the episode that airs on
59:49
March 15th, this is very specific. Oh
59:51
wait, I missed it Anyway, I
59:53
digress. Oh, you don't need to read that skip to
59:55
the next page that has the actual message on
59:57
it That was just explain her email. Oh But
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Do Not go edit any of this
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1:00:04
To say that there are no words
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1:00:08
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1:00:10
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1:00:13
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1:00:15
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1:00:19
to tell you the reasons why I
1:00:21
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1:00:23
one, I had been mesmerized by your
1:00:25
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1:00:27
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1:00:29
a diva. When you sing karaoke or
1:00:31
witness you're quick wit And the Cbs
1:00:34
Bronx your unique arenas constantly keep me
1:00:36
entertained and filled me with joy even
1:00:38
if I'm the target of your playful
1:00:40
antics. I'm walking on air. Being with
1:00:42
use a grand scale. It could be
1:00:44
something as plain as making out with
1:00:46
me behind the salon throw and the
1:00:48
lot and freezer or refrigerator. or oh,
1:00:51
dancing with me in the stores closet.
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Why are you outside in the world's
1:00:55
or shower or fucking me aggressively on
1:00:57
top of the mountain in a national
1:00:59
park lot? To do that again this year.
1:01:01
It's never dull. It's always a surprise in
1:01:03
a Give Me A reason to wake up
1:01:06
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1:01:08
ahead. I suppose what I'm trying to say
1:01:10
is love is that I want to grow
1:01:12
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1:01:14
you. I want to cry with you. I
1:01:16
went to navigate the mysteries of existence with
1:01:18
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and there's no one else I'd rather have
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1:01:25
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1:01:29
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that's nice Philip, You have to
1:01:34
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