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mi I'm

2:07

not about to be the provost, but

2:09

I'm talking about why I'm so single,

2:11

but like so many episodes have

2:14

passed, nobody knows. So now I'm

2:16

just having fun talking to people

2:18

I find interesting. My guest today

2:20

is a multi-junio nominated singer and

2:23

songwriter. She was featured on Lotto's

2:25

hit song lottery, her new single,

2:27

Nothing But Love is out now.

2:30

And I found her on Instagram a while ago and I was

2:32

like, ooh, this is fun, my hair is blacker.

2:36

It's Luca! Yay! Hi!

2:39

Thank you so much for doing

2:41

this. Thanks for having me. Luca,

2:43

so your first

2:45

language is French? It is. Okay.

2:49

So when did you learn English? That's a weird question. Yeah.

2:52

Yeah, no. When you say that, I'm like, I

2:54

don't know if I've ever really thought about that.

2:57

Do you just like remember being bilingual

2:59

from the jump? Well

3:02

because I'm from Toronto, I feel like

3:04

you have to speak English. You just have to speak English.

3:06

So I did grow up going to French school before

3:09

I kind of got over and went to this English school. But

3:13

I don't know, I guess since I was in elementary

3:15

school, you had to know how to speak English to

3:17

like survive in Toronto. So the

3:19

question came out wild. The

3:22

reason for the question is I've been

3:25

trying to learn Spanish and I find it so

3:27

hard. So somebody who grows up being bilingual, I'm

3:29

like, well when does it happen? How

3:31

do we do this? They say like under the age

3:33

of four is when it's like the easiest and fastest

3:35

time to learn a language. And

3:37

I think because I grew up with so many people

3:39

that only spoke English, that's why I don't really have

3:42

an accent. Like

3:44

you wouldn't know I speak French if you just heard me speak English. And

3:48

have you been to France? I haven't, yeah.

3:50

And I have family there so I don't know what's

3:52

up with that. You gotta go! Hopefully so. I've been

3:54

to Switzerland though and like the

3:56

French side. I've never been to Switzerland.

3:58

Did you get hit? on in Switzerland

4:00

was anybody like... I did. All they called

4:03

me down the streets was hilarious because I

4:05

looked nothing like either of them was like,

4:07

Rihanna, Nicki Minaj. And it's just because my

4:09

hair is orange and I feel like they

4:11

were not used to seeing someone with such

4:13

bright hair walking down the street. I was

4:15

like, I'll take it. It's giving me bad

4:17

calorific. When I was in Africa,

4:19

this man called me Medea. So I

4:22

would say you got a better

4:26

compliment. I did win. You can't lie. Yeah,

4:28

you definitely did win. But it's so funny

4:30

to me that somebody who's like, here's a black

4:32

person I know, I'll yell that at

4:34

you. They were literally yelling it

4:36

across the street. I was like, after a while I was like, wait, I

4:39

think they're talking to me. I'm like, this is actually very insane.

4:41

Am I Rihanna? Am I

4:43

Nicki Minaj? Am I Beijing? I'm fortunate to

4:45

have you. I'm one of them. Period. So

4:48

are you single, dating,

4:50

married? Don't want to say?

4:52

I'm single. Okay.

4:55

Are you looking? I'm open?

4:58

Mm hmm. That's the I'm open.

5:00

Okay. That's so vague. Like, are

5:02

you just so you're like, I'm

5:05

open for something to come to me or

5:07

you you're open to like

5:09

start trying? What does this open mean?

5:12

I'm like, if

5:14

you're ha and you listen to this, come find me

5:16

a talent. You know, I'm like, yeah, I'm open to

5:18

somebody. I guess I'm looking a little bit, but not

5:20

too hard. Because it's not even like I'm on anything.

5:23

Oh, you're not on the apps or anything? No. Were

5:25

you ever? I was, I was, I was. But

5:27

then it got like really weird. I feel like when things

5:29

started moving more, like I would literally get people sing like,

5:31

Oh my gosh, like I listened to your music. Oh my

5:33

gosh, this and that. And I was like, this is kind

5:36

of like odd. And there's just

5:38

weirdos sometimes. So I was like, I don't

5:40

know, maybe I'm meant to meet someone in

5:42

real life. So that's the

5:44

era I'm in is meeting somebody in real life.

5:46

But I'm like, I have to leave my house

5:48

to do that. I literally said that the other

5:50

day, like my friend was like, let's go out.

5:53

And I was like, yeah, I'm down with me.

5:55

Someone a couple hours later, I was looking at the clock and I was like,

5:57

I don't really have it in. I'm not gonna hold you. But I'm like, how

5:59

am I going to I'm not gonna ever meet somebody

6:02

if I never go anywhere. I know. And then

6:04

everyone's like, oh, maybe like all, like, you

6:06

know, someone should introduce me to somebody, but

6:09

I'll leave there. I

6:12

keep asking people to introduce me to somebody

6:14

and everyone's always like, oh, my friends are

6:16

garbage. And I'm like, okay, well.

6:18

Giving it code for, I don't know if they

6:20

like the thick girl. Man, that's

6:22

what it's code for, honestly, because I don't

6:24

know, this is LA. That never occurred

6:26

to me. Oh, sorry to burst the bubble. It's

6:29

okay to bubble up in burst. Damn.

6:32

I don't know. I feel like, I don't

6:35

know who's gonna send me with someone in LA,

6:37

who knows? Maybe I'm being like, maybe I need

6:39

to be optimistic. Maybe, how long have you

6:41

been in LA? A year. Okay,

6:43

so you're still new to LA. I love that

6:45

you're already jaded on LA. You're

6:48

just like, never gonna find anybody here. I

6:50

don't know, I think dating in LA is

6:52

just such an interesting place. It feels different.

6:55

It is different. I lived in New York

6:57

for a while and New York

6:59

to here is just, it's so different in a

7:01

way that I can't even describe. Cause

7:04

people's nights end earlier here and

7:06

nobody wants to be friends here. Unless

7:09

you have a lot going on. I guess.

7:11

But like, what I mean is, I

7:14

love just talking to people randomly. And

7:16

I feel like people are just like, oh, why are you

7:18

talking to me? And I'm like, but I just wanna have

7:21

fun. It's tough for me

7:23

to know who's being genuine and who's not being

7:25

genuine in LA. It definitely is hard. I

7:28

said earlier, I agree. It's hard to know

7:30

who's here for the right reasons. I

7:32

did say earlier that love doesn't just

7:34

come to your doorstep, but maybe it

7:36

will. I ordered a charger for my

7:38

phone, like

7:41

an aux cord to go in my car. And

7:43

instead of sending me an aux cord, I

7:45

got sent a dildo. That's

7:48

something you can be in love with. Yeah,

7:51

I feel like I could be in love with

7:53

it. I thought Amazon, I was like, do

7:55

Amazon send this to me? Cause they were like,

7:58

you need a dickey. I

8:00

am screaming. It was wild because I looked

8:02

on Amazon and it was like, ooh, delivered.

8:05

And I said, ooh, my charger's here. And

8:07

then I opened it and I was like,

8:09

this is a huge box for a little

8:11

charger. And then I opened it

8:13

and I was like, this is a dildo. Oh

8:15

my god. And it came with Analube. And I

8:17

was like, lube is lube.

8:19

I think you could just throw it in the old

8:22

place. I didn't know there was a difference. Me either.

8:24

But it specifically said Analube. And it's not a lot.

8:26

And it's a very big dildo. And I was like,

8:28

y'all think I have more girth

8:30

than I do better. I am screaming.

8:33

Like, how do we get here? Because

8:36

I was like, lube maybe can come to your door.

8:39

It can. Or I don't know if it's just a

8:41

movie thing or if it really can show up at

8:43

the door. I don't know. The dildo came to my

8:45

door. And then

8:47

I was like, should I return it? But

8:49

then I was like, well, you don't return a gift

8:51

godsend. I was going to ask you,

8:53

did you keep it? It's currently

8:57

just right by my front door. Because I'm like,

8:59

how about this? At this point, it clearly was

9:01

meant to be yours. It was meant to be.

9:04

But it was just so. So then I ordered another

9:07

charger. This literally happened

9:09

like two days ago. So I ordered another one.

9:11

And I wonder if I'm going to get my

9:13

charger or another deal. Like, do you think you're

9:15

going to be like, ha, ha, ha. I'm just

9:17

trying to figure out if this company is selling

9:19

chargers and dillos. Maybe. I mean, you have to

9:21

be multifaceted nowadays. So I'm just wondering what's going

9:23

on with that company. It

9:26

was so interesting and strange. Has

9:28

anything weird like that happened to you? You're like,

9:31

no, lady, your life is fucked up. No.

9:38

I mean, I'm sure there's been a lot of things like that. Or

9:41

maybe I ordered something that did not arrive. But I

9:43

don't know. So

9:46

have you had any relationships? Have

9:48

you been in one? I have not.

9:50

You haven't? I've been. I've

9:53

dated somebody. And I guess you

9:55

could call it a relationship. But who knows what

9:57

they were calling. It wasn't a thing

9:59

that was. super cohesive. I'm like geez

10:01

you really want my business out there on the street.

10:03

Well you don't have to answer if you don't want

10:05

to. No um I don't feel

10:07

like I have been and I guess I'm a

10:10

little comforted in knowing like nowadays I feel like

10:12

a lot of people don't feel like they've

10:14

genuinely been in a relationship. I've been

10:16

in situationships. Same. Like people people have

10:18

like me have been on dates but

10:21

I don't think I would call any of those people

10:23

like an ex. I don't know what they call me

10:25

but that's on them. That's such

10:27

an interesting thing. I wonder if anyone would

10:30

call me an ex. Or

10:33

they're just like that crazy bitch I dated for a

10:35

little bit. I don't know. You know you watch like

10:37

some of those shows on reality TVs and they're like

10:39

the ex said this and that. I'm like you would

10:41

say something about me. I'm like I don't feel like

10:43

I have an ex. You know I'm like am I

10:46

damaged goods? What's going on? You're not

10:48

damaged goods? No. I don't think I

10:50

am. I think we're living in a

10:52

weird time period honestly. Yes.

10:54

I think a lot of people haven't

10:56

been with somebody seriously and then I

10:58

think a lot of people just

11:01

are trying to date right now and

11:03

are not finding that person. Yes. I

11:05

also think reality television

11:07

is it like speeds so okay

11:09

I love 90 day fiance and

11:12

they have this offshoot called the single

11:14

life Mars. I think I talked about

11:16

this last week. Mmm zoop zeez. Anywho

11:18

so this guy Tyrae goes on a

11:20

first date with a woman and he

11:23

goes I feel like we have a

11:25

connection. You don't know that bitch. You

11:27

don't have a connection. You know you

11:29

think she's attractive. Yeah. Simply don't have

11:31

a connection and then he was like

11:33

and then he on the first date

11:35

was like how do you feel about

11:37

long-distance relationships because they were both on a trip

11:40

in New Orleans. Right. They live down there and

11:42

I'm like on a first date. That's insane.

11:44

Again you don't know this person. I don't

11:46

know if we're all a little damaged from

11:49

the pandemic. We are. You know so I think that

11:51

like in our brains we're like skipping like I hear

11:53

some of the questions. Yeah I hear some of the

11:56

questions people ask you on a first date. I'm like

11:58

that would make me run away. Like why? I was

12:00

talking about all this. But at the same time, I

12:02

think people also just feel like I don't have time

12:04

to waste, so. I need to know where you stand

12:06

on this. Cause I don't want to waste my time

12:08

if I live this far. But I'm

12:10

personally not really doing that long distance thing right

12:12

now. I don't think I

12:14

would do a long distance relationship. But if I

12:17

met somebody that I was interested in, I think

12:19

I would. You might be open to it. Open

12:21

to try. But again, I don't know you. Do

12:23

you know what I mean? I want

12:26

to say I'd be open to it, but I feel like the last

12:28

person I spoke to, that's

12:31

the thing I spoke to that was like long

12:33

distance. Like I would just need

12:35

you to do a lot for me to even think about it.

12:37

And I think a lot of people in their mind think that

12:40

they're doing more. So

12:42

it's just probably not for me. What do you

12:44

need someone to do for you? Oh. I

12:50

don't know, you can send me some gifts. You

12:52

can like, you need to show me that I'm on your mind.

12:54

You know what I mean? Like, and it can't just be you

12:56

texting me and calling me because I think

12:58

anybody can do that. I'm not looking

13:00

for a pen tap. So I

13:02

feel like you kind of have to do some

13:04

like actions. Like, you know what I mean? I

13:07

don't know, you were thinking about me. Maybe you even

13:09

send me a letter in the mail. Like that would

13:11

be cute. That'd be romantic. Like I just feel like

13:13

where's the romance nowadays? And don't just send me flowers

13:15

when you do something wrong. Cause I feel like that's

13:17

the only time I get flowers. So

13:20

like the last person that like sent me flowers recently,

13:22

like I never responded back to them. Like I just didn't

13:24

care. It just was like, why

13:26

did you send me those flowers? I literally don't talk

13:28

to you. Is this what it's like to have standards?

13:32

If someone sent me, I dated someone

13:35

who got me flowers once and

13:38

I was like, oh my God. Every

13:40

time they did something wrong, I'd be like, well at

13:42

least they got me flowers at one time. Yeah, no,

13:45

it's not worth it. I guess not. Cause they're gonna

13:47

do the same thing again and be like, oh, I

13:49

can just get you back the moment that

13:52

I sent her some flowers. But you

13:54

keep the flowers. I'll keep

13:56

them, but I won't even post it. Like I'm not

13:58

even gonna let you feel special. by you

14:00

seeing it online. Like you're not gonna see the

14:02

book there ever. Like I'm not even gonna thank

14:04

you. I'm just gonna have it. I don't know

14:06

you. Oh my God. I need a

14:08

little bit of that. I don't have any of

14:11

that. If you buy me flowers and if you

14:13

say hello to me, I'm like, oh my God,

14:15

I'm in, like I had a server the other

14:17

day at a restaurant and he said more than

14:19

like, can I take you order? Like, and I

14:21

was like, I'm gonna marry him. I love him

14:23

so much. And then I tried so hard to

14:25

flirt with him, but then I just ended up

14:27

being weird. And then it turned out he knew

14:30

who I was. So then I think he liked the weird, but

14:32

then I don't know. And

14:34

then I was like, if you know who I am, are

14:36

you gay? And then he's like, but maybe you're bi, but

14:38

then you can't just ask somebody that. Right, I mean, I

14:41

do sometimes, but I think I get in trouble for it. So now

14:43

I just learned to not talk anymore. Like

14:46

you really, Lou, stop asking questions. Like please

14:48

don't. Just don't ask. I mean, I

14:50

wish. I don't know. I think

14:52

it's really important to have standards in dating, especially

14:54

if you're like, you know, I've been single this

14:56

long. I might as well stay this

14:58

way until I find someone who treats me the

15:00

right way. And yeah, I

15:03

don't know. Like, no, like if you

15:05

do me wrong, my cutoff game is very strong.

15:07

I wish. I'm

15:09

not like that. Cause

15:11

I'm like, there's goodness in everyone and

15:14

your goodness will shine through. I'm manifesting

15:16

that for you. This year in 2024,

15:18

we are cutting them off. We're

15:21

like literally walking them everywhere. So

15:23

you can get me up. Blah, blah, blah,

15:25

blah, blah. Yeah, like literally. Someone

15:28

asked me like, oh, like this person was talking about who? Oh

15:31

my God. But like genuinely you're so

15:33

in your, locked off in your

15:35

head that you're literally wondering who. That

15:37

who? I've never wondered who. I'm

15:39

like, I love you. This

15:46

is like a hopeless romantic where. I love

15:48

that. I feel like when you click with

15:50

someone, you're like, well, why can't this be

15:52

a lovely happily ever after? I just want

15:54

to be with the person that makes me

15:56

feel free and comfortable enough to really believe

15:58

in that happily ever after. but like

16:00

most people like just talk a

16:02

big game and like I'm like huh. I

16:06

feel comfortable with people, not like

16:08

immediately, but I'm also a very

16:10

strange person. So I don't realize

16:12

I'm doing weird shit until they're

16:14

like oh that was weird. And

16:16

I'm like oh no I guess

16:18

I'm comfortable with you. I

16:22

get comfortable, I get comfortable a bit too quickly so I

16:24

get it. Mm-hmm, I just, I

16:26

don't know. What are you looking for in

16:29

a partner? What am I looking for treating

16:31

you well? Yeah I think someone who like

16:33

could be romantic. You know I

16:36

said guess but it's not really just guess. I think

16:38

it's literally someone just thinking about you and doing nice

16:40

things because they are thinking about you on their

16:42

regular day to day life because if I

16:44

was walking down the street and I was

16:46

with somebody again, like we are together. And

16:50

I saw a top that I felt like you would like, I

16:52

would get it, like you know what I mean? I would be

16:54

like just because like at the service I think there are beautiful

16:56

things. Open the door,

16:58

like we need some chivalry. Like

17:00

hold the elevator. Those are basics

17:03

so it's actually very sad that

17:05

you could, very sad that this

17:07

is a thing you even have to mention

17:09

because that's very basic. But I don't

17:12

know someone who's like smart, like teach me

17:14

some things. I wanna teach

17:16

you some things, like teach me some things. Someone

17:19

who holds me to the highest regard because I'm

17:21

a queen. So you

17:23

should, someone who's ambitious because

17:26

I don't know, there's nothing less attractive

17:29

than somebody who just doesn't wanna do anything with

17:31

their life. For me at least, I need you

17:33

to be on your stuff because I work hard. And

17:37

also it would be nice to

17:39

date somebody who's kinda had more freedom. A

17:42

little more than change in their pockets because

17:44

I wanna go on vacations. And

17:47

the kinda schedule, I'm sure you lead a

17:49

similar one is things could be

17:51

really, really busy. You might just find out you have

17:53

a couple days three out of nowhere. Yes, like let's

17:55

go on a trip. Let's

17:57

have fun, I don't know. It's

18:00

a couple of things we're looking for, I guess. It's

18:02

a couple of things, but I also think it's

18:04

fully attainable and doable. It's so attainable. Oh,

18:07

I like the whole, are you

18:10

thinking about me? I dated

18:12

somebody who I thought of often because I

18:14

really liked them. And they

18:16

liked anime, so I would buy them

18:18

socks with anime characters on it. Oh,

18:20

that's so cute. And then at one

18:22

point, they were like, hey, just

18:25

so you know, these socks are terrible

18:27

quality, and they're really uncomfortable, like

18:30

I know you're thinking of me, but I simply

18:33

won't wear them. And

18:36

I was like, wait, where did you find this

18:38

person? The

18:40

world. Oh my gosh. But then

18:42

I kept forgetting. So if

18:44

someone tells me. And then you kept getting

18:46

the socks. Yes. If someone tells

18:48

me something is bad, like if you tell me

18:50

you're allergic to shrimp, every time I eat shrimp,

18:52

I will offer you some, because I

18:54

know in my head, you said

18:56

something about shrimp. You like shrimp? And

18:59

it's like, no, shrimp kills me. And

19:01

with these socks, every time I saw them,

19:03

I'd be like, oh my God, these are so cute. I'll get them.

19:06

I mean, to me, because you're not killing them is

19:08

not shrimp. It's the thought that

19:10

matters. So it's like, come on. Like, I

19:12

think it's nice that you kept doing that,

19:14

but they said it was sweet. They

19:17

were like, it's sweet. And you have good intentions,

19:19

but your execution is very bad.

19:22

Oh my gosh. Oh my

19:24

gosh. I mean, I think that is just so nice,

19:26

and you weren't even willing to do that. I wanna

19:28

come home to somebody who's cooking me dinner, and

19:32

letting me just relax. And then

19:34

you wanna give me a massage. Like, these

19:36

are the things I want. These are the things

19:38

I see for me, I deserve. I like that.

19:40

I could never, I don't like massages, and I

19:42

can't imagine a loved one giving me one. No.

19:45

I don't really like being touched, which is a strange

19:47

thing. That's fair. Yeah. So

19:49

massages is like too, it's too much touching.

19:52

The whole thing is touching. I used to

19:54

like be so ticklish. Really?

19:57

Anytime someone dies for me, but now I'm looking at a massage. I

20:00

work hard no, but it's

20:02

there's something pretty intimate about

20:04

it It's so intimate and

20:06

then I start thinking about why

20:08

are you touching me? Not during like

20:10

a massage like sometimes I'll be talking to a dear

20:12

friend and they'll like touch me to emphasize a point

20:15

and like If their hand stays I go well, why don't

20:17

you want your hand back? And I like

20:19

a lot of people are like that stop

20:21

thinking about it I feel like recently a

20:23

lot of people are like that looks from my friends Oh,

20:25

yeah, we like we don't like hugs like oh, okay Which

20:27

is so interesting to me because I feel like growing up

20:30

especially in high school You walk in and everyone wanted to

20:32

give you a hug now. I'm realizing I

20:34

guess people don't want to hug anymore But it's okay.

20:37

I'll hug somebody. I actually prefer a hug

20:39

to a handshake But it's

20:41

like it like if someone touches

20:43

my back. I'm like why that's why

20:45

are you doing that? Yeah, what's going on? I

20:47

mean I get back because I've always said that

20:50

like I've always

20:52

said that I feel like kisses are more intimate than sex

20:54

and Like

20:56

I don't know what it is about it But I just

20:58

feel like there's something so intimate about your mouth and

21:00

somebody else is not swapping some stuff Oh,

21:03

I don't know. Yeah, but I think I might just be

21:05

backwards in my brain when someone's inside of you. I think

21:07

there's That's it. I don't

21:09

know they can be inside and you can just

21:11

disconnect You could just

21:13

be like I'm not even here. But when they're

21:16

kissing you like it's like well, you're so close

21:18

I guess Maybe

21:20

something is wrong with me. No, I don't think

21:22

there's anything wrong with you. I'm also weird Sometimes

21:25

I'll kiss somebody and I'll open an eye. Oh,

21:27

yeah Wait

21:32

that reminds me of like when my brother

21:34

got married I'm such a bad sister, but

21:36

like when my brother got married he and

21:38

his wife That was the first time

21:41

they ever shared kiss and it

21:43

was such an uncomfortable thing to watch them

21:45

do for the first time and his eyes were fully open

21:47

and I like Wait, I

21:49

yeah, but I also laugh like me and my

21:52

sister could not stop nothing. But your brother's business

21:54

out there, but He

21:56

had never kissed. No You

21:59

know the He's on his

22:01

super Christian stuff. Oh, okay. But I

22:03

was like, not even a kiss. Like I'm like,

22:05

and to do it for the first time in

22:07

front of everybody and your eyes be open, it

22:09

was honestly one of the funniest things, also

22:12

disturbing things. I'm so sorry, I love you. Oh,

22:14

because he wasn't to this. He

22:17

will. And he's gonna think

22:19

back to his magical wedding day and

22:21

be like, it was weird. Everyone thought

22:23

it was weird. It was so weird. It was so weird.

22:25

I was like, haven't you ever watched movies?

22:27

Like close your eyes. And

22:30

his eyes are big too. It was very much

22:32

giving out of pocket. Like out of pocket. He

22:34

was like, I can't believe this is fucking happening.

22:37

This is magical. We're eyes open too. I don't

22:39

think so, but it was one of the most

22:41

funniest because first of all, when you kiss someone,

22:43

you gotta have coordination. Yeah. You gotta know like,

22:45

is it a straightforward head left, head right? Like

22:47

what are we doing? Are we grabbing the head?

22:49

This is very much giving like an alien to,

22:51

it was bad. It was bad. He's like, this is

22:53

my first day on earth. I don't know how to do this. It was all

22:55

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25:30

you say that a kiss takes coordination. It does! A

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lot of people don't know how to kiss and they

25:34

really think they do. Have you ever had a bad

25:36

kiss with somebody and then the next time you kiss

25:38

them it was good? Like

25:42

better. I don't know if it was

25:45

good. I also, if the first kiss

25:47

is bad, I truly feel like it's

25:50

simply kind of seals the deal because that's like if

25:52

you don't know how to work your mouth on

25:54

the mouth I don't know where else you know how to work

25:57

it. Yeah, but at first kiss. when

26:00

it's good is such a fucking treat.

26:02

It is, it is. And I just, I

26:04

don't know. I feel like a lot of people do not know how

26:06

to kiss specifically men, and a lot of them really

26:09

think they do. I don't know why. So, you

26:11

know, I think, you know, when I kiss someone here and there,

26:13

and they're like, wow, like, that was such a great kiss. I'm

26:16

like, I know, but like, you gotta work on it. Wait,

26:18

people are telling you? Yeah. People go, that

26:20

was a great kiss? Yeah. Is it me? Maybe.

26:23

I'm joking. Well, no,

26:25

I think like when you share something like a good

26:27

time, or even just like really good kiss, you feel

26:30

something, but like, you know, I feel like when

26:32

I'm told, I'm like, yeah, I know,

26:34

but like, you gotta work on it, because I was a kid

26:36

and I was kissing the inside of my arm to make sure

26:38

that I knew what I was doing properly. I used to do

26:40

that a lot. So like, maybe y'all need to do that. Because

26:43

a lot of people think they're great at a lot of

26:45

things that they're not, and it's like, let's

26:47

take some feedback back so that we can be better

26:49

for the next person. Like, wow. rate

26:52

it, one to 10, if you like it. No,

26:55

but actually, I think you can like feel it

26:57

when it's a really good kiss. I think you can feel it

26:59

too. Oh wait, maybe I have.

27:01

Can you feel it? Can you feel

27:03

the love? You can feel it. Can

27:05

you feel the love tonight?

27:08

The peace, the evening. I

27:10

don't think I'm gonna do the other

27:13

half. Is that the same song? Yeah.

27:15

Oh. I wasn't,

27:17

I was singing. Am I even an artist?

27:19

The Elton John version, and not the movie

27:21

version. Oh, okay, my bad, my bad. Hi,

27:23

Elton. Oh, I love

27:26

Elton John. Great

27:28

person. Benny and the Jazz. We're

27:31

lucky to be living in a time with all these

27:33

like living legends. I know. I mean, a lot of

27:35

them. Who's your favorite? Who's still

27:37

living? Yeah. Oh. Or

27:41

a dead one. Oh wait, wait a phrase

27:43

left. I love Rihanna, like, hey, Rihanna, me,

27:45

you're my new bestie, but living

27:47

legend, Celine Dion, like I'm

27:49

Canadian, so. Celine Dion. I was at the Grammys

27:52

the other day, and. Ooh, you went to the

27:54

Grammys? Yeah, that was my first time, and I

27:56

saw her walk out, and I swear I almost

27:58

fainted. I almost cried. was like

28:00

no freaking way especially cuz like you know

28:02

she's been dealing with a lot so I

28:04

was not expecting to see her walk on

28:06

stage that was like I guess so

28:08

I was like

28:11

oh I love her yeah literally

28:13

I've always been like it's giving

28:15

my wedding song because

28:18

you love me oh

28:20

like that's like I love her I like

28:22

that song I drove all night

28:24

that's not how it goes I drove all

28:26

night that's not how it goes do

28:30

you know what song I'm talking about? It's called

28:32

I drove all night Jordan how does

28:35

it go? I drove all night

28:37

to get to you

28:39

I drove all night that's

28:44

what I want someone who's into me to do

28:46

like I'm not trying to do that not gonna

28:48

hold you but I need you to like give me the like I

28:50

drove all night to get to you like talking

28:53

to you makes me wonder if

28:55

I don't think I'm worthy of

29:02

someone driving all night because I'm like someone

29:05

driving all night that's dangerous you better get

29:07

to sleep you get to me in the

29:09

afternoon if it takes that long you should

29:12

listen to my very first EP I don't

29:14

have one EP out and it's actually called

29:16

worthy it was

29:19

my me coming around to the point

29:21

where I realized that I was worthy of all

29:23

the best things and I know in the

29:25

movies and shows like girls like us they don't

29:27

get the like the love story and this and

29:29

that so like getting to the point where you're

29:31

like no I'm worthy of this and I'm gonna

29:33

wait out wait out until I have someone

29:35

make me feel like I'm

29:37

the prize here's the thing I'm

29:40

fucking tired of waiting and I'm

29:42

horny yeah and I didn't

29:44

say you don't give it up to anybody in

29:46

that period but but well I don't want to

29:48

just be fucking no more I'm like really I

29:51

don't want to have one-night stands I don't want

29:53

to have to like figure out what works with

29:55

this person I want like rely I want a

29:57

Toyota Corolla you know I want to fuck some

30:00

I know it's reliable and good. Why get

30:02

it to Or a

30:04

camera because it's economical reliable and we'll

30:06

get you over. No, those are actually

30:09

not great They break down

30:11

a lot. They they might be

30:13

luxury But people are always

30:15

like a Porsche a Porsche

30:17

is better than electric Porsche. I

30:20

can't remember to plug you in. I Just

30:24

feel like I get what you're saying because I think a

30:26

lot of people are in that weird in between where you're

30:28

like Do I like I

30:30

don't want to hook up with anybody anymore and

30:32

I want like a real-life relationship But I also

30:34

need to get a little some cuz yeah, we

30:36

need to get a little wet here and there

30:38

Yeah, and like it's a really weird in between

30:40

but I feel like we're all feeling it as

30:42

it people right now So nice,

30:44

there's knowing that and I

30:47

mean you loved it come to your door So at least

30:49

there's that in between right now Black

30:52

dildo. Oh my god A

30:54

black person skin. Yes, and

30:56

I was like don't scare me a little bit like

30:58

I like real I don't know

31:00

what it is. But seeing the veins on the

31:02

real color of anybody's skin I'm like, it's you

31:04

just made this a little too realistic Very

31:08

realistic and my assistant she dropped

31:11

off coffee I was

31:13

doing some press stuff So she dropped off coffee for

31:15

me and she was like left it next to the

31:17

dildo and I was like, that's yes Let

31:20

me explain why it's just there. Oh

31:23

It is still in its bag which says keep

31:25

away from children, which I thought was pretty funny

31:27

They meant the bag. Yeah, they can choke a

31:29

child, but I was like, okay I

31:33

don't know this I don't be morbid or anything But I always think

31:35

like God willing I get to live a

31:37

very very long life But I'm like, what

31:39

if you like passed away and your family had to

31:41

come and clear out your room? Yeah,

31:43

all the stuff they would find. Yeah,

31:46

here's the find out you're not that

31:48

good. Yeah oh

31:50

my god, I have

31:52

a will and It is

31:55

a lot of it's not legally

31:57

enforceable because you can't enforce people to do things

31:59

after you But there's

32:01

soft requests for my best friend. Please

32:03

let my friends come and clear out the room first. And one

32:05

of the things says Here's

32:07

where my sex toys are if you could

32:09

just like get rid of them. You're smart.

32:11

Oh, you know what I should do I should

32:14

put gloves in there just so they don't have

32:16

to like touch my stuff. Oh,

32:18

I mean Yeah, I

32:20

love that you already have that in the world because

32:22

I was like really thinking about it I was like,

32:24

oh my gosh, like that would be insane Yeah,

32:27

just leave instructions like my best friend knows exactly where

32:29

the printout of it is I

32:32

told her where it is. I just I'm Just

32:35

doesn't scare me because it happens to it'll happen

32:37

to us all of us. So I just like

32:39

want to be prepared But

32:42

yeah, I'm like just you know clean out some stuff. My sister

32:44

doesn't need to see that Yeah.

32:47

Yeah, that's smart. That's more maybe

32:50

Together I will say one of the requests

32:52

sound legally enforceable is I would like googly

32:55

eyes placed on my face why Just

32:58

scare people just cuz it's funny

33:00

and I'd like my body to still be funny

33:02

when I'm not in it You said even in

33:04

death. I'm gonna be silly. I'm silly as a

33:06

bitch I love it and I wrote I think

33:08

I told my sister this I was like I'd

33:10

like my sister to bang the casket every time

33:12

someone came like comes by so my eyes do that.

33:14

I Am

33:16

screaming. I think I haven't

33:18

been creative enough. No get creative

33:20

like death happens death is

33:23

sad But like death

33:25

can also be a celebration

33:27

or funny if yeah, I said had a

33:29

sense of humor. Yes So

33:32

yeah, I don't like I want people obviously to be sad

33:34

about me, right? But I also want them to be like

33:36

to he that dumb bitch I'm on but

33:38

I need them to be sick to their stomach about

33:40

me like My stomach them like

33:43

that's what I need. I need you to be like,

33:45

I can't live like my life will never go on

33:47

Like Lou is gone like why is life? That's

33:49

what I I need the dramatics You're one of those

33:51

like super crawlers like I need you to be

33:53

in front row front row front row super cry super cry But

33:56

I also remember that I was really funny. I

33:58

would like my partner to like be so

34:00

overcome with emotion at my funeral. And

34:02

I've requested that my current partner has to

34:05

talk about my pussy. But

34:08

I want them to be so overcome

34:10

with emotion and be sobbing, being like,

34:12

her pussy was so nice and I

34:14

loved it. I am screaming, but I'm

34:17

also confused. I don't know why you're

34:19

scared about anybody in your family finding

34:21

your dildos and sex toys when clearly

34:23

you're requesting such wild things. Here's the

34:25

thing, never is a thought

34:28

connected in my brain. Never

34:30

is a thought making sense as

34:32

a cohesive thing. You are absolutely

34:35

right. It doesn't matter who cleans it

34:37

out because you're gonna hear all about it at the

34:39

funeral. They're about to hear on this very now, like

34:41

in 10 seconds. How do you

34:43

write a love song? I

34:45

don't think I'm the best love

34:47

song writer. I'm still learning.

34:50

I know how to write love songs to myself, but

34:53

writing love songs, I'm like, I don't

34:55

know, I'm dramatic. I can

34:57

make anything sound super

34:59

dramatic. And everyone's gonna be like, who's

35:01

that song about? If you're saying you've never really

35:04

been in a full relationship or never been

35:06

in full blown love, I'm like, I

35:08

mean, Shakespeare wrote about fairies in the woods.

35:10

I'm sure he never met a fairy in

35:12

the woods. Shakespeare wrote about

35:14

the tempest, which is a storm and

35:17

I'm sure he never went through that. Romeo and

35:19

Juliet, were they real? Who knows? Yeah,

35:21

it's called an imagination. But I actually

35:23

do write about myself. Everything is

35:25

about myself, but I might drop, like make it a

35:28

little more dramatic, because we trying to

35:30

sell some records. It's not a check. I'm just, I want

35:32

to make it a little more dramatic than it is. And

35:35

then I'm like, I don't know, maybe I just don't claim

35:37

a lot of the situations I've had as love. Maybe

35:40

it's a me thing and I mean the

35:42

word love or a little distance from each

35:44

other. And it's hard for me to understand what

35:46

it fully means. It's

35:48

some trauma, I guess. Sure. I

35:51

guess my question's dumber than

35:53

what you were answering. I literally don't understand

35:55

how people write songs. Like, how a song,

35:57

like, okay. It's

36:00

like she wants something to wash over her. It

36:11

sounds Christian but not. It's like Jeff Gethson. I

36:13

don't know if it's sexual or Christian but it's

36:15

one of those two. Sing more of it.

36:18

I'm on my knees. Are you in

36:20

the right key? No. No,

36:23

never. I'm on my knees. I'm on my

36:26

knees. I'm on my knees. I'm on my knees. I'm

36:28

on my knees. Okay, I'll

36:30

pick a different song. I think you just like, I

36:33

think some people write things about their reality and

36:35

some people just like, I don't know, at one

36:37

point I need inspiration. During the pandemic I needed

36:39

inspiration because I was like, I'm

36:41

not living a life. I'm literally stuck inside

36:43

my apartment, my home the whole

36:45

time. So I would watch movies and shows and

36:47

like, or like write about my friends, like relationships.

36:50

Like that was all really fun to do. But

36:53

usually I just write it about myself and

36:55

I feel like maybe when I find that

36:57

deep love, I'm gonna be able to write

36:59

like that legit love song.

37:02

I know how to write about heartbreak because I feel like everyone's

37:04

been heartbroken. Even if it wasn't like

37:06

in a relationship kind of manner.

37:09

Everyone's been heartbroken in some sort of way. And

37:12

there's been people that we really liked and they broke

37:14

our heart too. You

37:16

know, so writing the opposite is so much

37:18

easier for me than to write love songs. Also because I

37:20

think a lot of love songs are just so corny and

37:22

really hard to like, you know, like there's like

37:24

to perfect the love song is beautiful. A

37:27

lot of times it doesn't happen that way. What's your

37:29

favorite love song? Do you have one? Oh,

37:32

I was just talking to someone about, well, one,

37:34

obviously we love The Selene's Yarn because you love

37:36

me because it's giving wedding song. But

37:38

there's a song. Do you know who Tamia is? No.

37:41

Tamia Tamia. She has a

37:43

song called Still. Still is a

37:45

date. Like I remember being a kid and listening to

37:47

it. Like I'm actually very dramatic, but there's,

37:49

anyways, it literally is about she's

37:51

with, whatever.

37:55

She's been dating this guy and he was like in

37:57

the NBA, but she was with him since they were

37:59

like kids. And now they're like grownups

38:01

and they have kids and all this stuff

38:03

and their kids are adults. But

38:06

anyways, the song is like, still feels like the

38:08

first time we met and I kissed and I

38:10

told you I love you. Oh yeah, I do.

38:12

I do know that song. Get along like teenagers.

38:14

Like I'm like, wait, the

38:17

fact that that song is still real to them,

38:19

that you still love this person since you guys

38:21

were so young to now, I'm like, oh my

38:23

gosh, I just think it's such a beautiful song.

38:26

And who knows who I'm gonna end up marrying one

38:28

of these days. We might know each other for two

38:30

years, but we gonna play that song as if we

38:33

knew each other because we were children. Do

38:35

you think as a, how do you

38:37

identify? Plus size, the fat.

38:41

I'm a size two, what are you talking about? No,

38:44

I think. Sorry. I'm a plus size girl.

38:46

I'm a thick girl. I'm a plus size girl. I didn't

38:48

call myself fat. I just. Oh. The

38:51

way you said no. I

38:53

was having that conversation with my friend a couple of

38:55

days ago. And

38:58

I was like, that's just like, I've never

39:00

done that. Like, that's, I don't know. I

39:02

don't identify. I'm

39:04

a plus size girl. I just feel like

39:07

fat is something that you have on your body.

39:09

It's not who you are. Yeah, I mean,

39:12

because of that, like it's hard for my brain

39:14

to like think like that. And I was just like growing

39:16

up, like because it was like more of a diss, like

39:20

I'm not gonna call myself that, but you're

39:22

not gonna hurt my feeling if you call

39:24

me that either, babe. I'm hot. Yeah. I

39:26

feel like growing up, people be like, you're

39:28

fat. I'd be like, and? Yeah, I love

39:30

that. What else? Oh, you were a bad

39:32

bitch early. You want to talk about your

39:34

mom not being able to pay her bills?

39:36

Yeah. We can get anything back. Yeah, like

39:38

I just, it never, it didn't

39:40

bother me the way it bothered other kids. Right.

39:42

That's why I say. Did you feel

39:44

like you had to be funny early? Like you were deflecting from that a

39:46

little bit? Sorry,

39:49

I'm losing energy. You know what I mean? I

39:52

feel like I've been asked that before. And

39:55

I feel like maybe as I got older, I realized

39:57

that was a way to like be

39:59

funny. so people would not call

40:02

me fat, but I also really didn't care if

40:04

you called me fat. Anything I felt about my

40:06

body was solely myself, being like, oh, I wish

40:09

I looked like the other kids, but then if

40:11

it's like, someone was like, you are fat, I'd

40:13

just be like, okay. I

40:16

think it comes more from having ADHD. And

40:20

being in a classroom and

40:22

a teacher saying something, I'm like, that reminds me of,

40:24

blah, blah, blah, blah, more like, I can't, I just

40:26

was bouncing around, like bouncing

40:29

off the walls, and it just manifested in

40:31

a funny way, I think. Right. But

40:33

I'm sure deep down there's like some, yeah, if I

40:35

make them laugh first, they won't make fun of me, but

40:38

also nobody made fun of me because I was like,

40:40

a good time. Right. And like my

40:42

older sister was known as like, Nicole's sister. Like

40:45

she came for me. She loves to see it in

40:47

the both of us when you were younger. And they're

40:49

like, oh, you're her sister. I always feel bad for

40:51

the people because I remember a couple of those people

40:53

in high school where like, you're the younger person's sibling,

40:55

and I'm like, that, like, you gotta step it up,

40:57

step it up. Yeah, talk

40:59

a little bit more. Yeah. But as

41:01

a plus size person, have

41:03

you found dating to be harder or?

41:07

Yeah, it's definitely a little tougher. I

41:12

don't know, I think that a lot of people,

41:15

I think there's a good amount of people that

41:17

are into plus size women, but they're scared

41:20

to say like out loud, therefore

41:22

they copy, they'll like hook

41:24

up with plus size girls in secret.

41:27

Yeah. And

41:29

not in real life. And I'm like, I'm

41:31

nobody's secret. So until you're

41:33

like yelling outside like, Lucala, I

41:35

love her. Like she's that one. Like, please don't

41:37

talk to me. Because it also

41:39

tells me, like I'm actually just embarrassed for you.

41:42

Like imagine being a grown

41:44

man and you're afraid to like love the

41:46

person you love just because you wanna seem

41:48

cool for your friends. Like it's actually

41:51

absolutely insane to me in my brain. Yes.

41:54

Yeah, it's definitely different, a little harder

41:56

to date as an

41:59

output size woman. And out

42:01

plus-size women. When I was in the closet,

42:03

it was a little easy. Right, right. I

42:05

was bound to be in the closet. Yeah, and

42:07

it's so funny because a lot of the men that

42:09

want to hook up with plus-size girls are like hot

42:12

to the world. They're like men that are

42:14

like musculars are like great quote-unquote bodies as

42:16

the world would say and the actual vision

42:19

of like what a lot of these girls

42:21

want. It's funny because like when I'm on

42:23

social media like on TikTok, sometimes I'll see

42:25

like a girl that's like plus-size and she's

42:27

a fine-ass man. And every one of them

42:29

comes to all like, how did you, they

42:31

must have been friends first. They were friends.

42:34

She must have gained weight. And I'm like,

42:36

no babes, like not everyone is

42:38

into you. And I think it

42:40

hurts people more I think because some

42:43

of them might work out super hard and

42:45

they might do everything they think they can

42:47

do, get some work to like become the

42:49

vision of what they think the world

42:51

thinks is attractive and then he goes after that

42:53

one. Uh-huh. You know, but

42:55

I'm like. So whenever I see like

42:57

a bodybuilder type with a plus-size girl,

43:00

I'm like, obviously,

43:02

he likes to lift heavy things. I

43:04

kind of make sense. Opposites attract. Opposites

43:07

attract, but also it's like, how can I

43:09

get another workout in? Lift

43:11

this big bitch up and

43:13

like move her around. That's another

43:15

workout. We love to see it.

43:18

I don't know why it like blows people's

43:20

minds. I really just wish people would just

43:23

like date and love the like date who they want

43:25

to date. You know, like because you'll

43:27

you're the one that's gonna be miserable at the

43:29

end of the days. And I

43:31

think it has to do with like high school culture

43:34

and like being middle school and all that kind of

43:36

stuff. Like you carry that into adulthood. But

43:39

I'm loving to see like people nowadays

43:42

are just like people are getting

43:44

better at it. A little bit better at

43:46

it. A little. But it's definitely I

43:48

feel like it's hard to date as a plus-size

43:50

girl in LA. Like in many places, but like

43:52

in LA because LA is definitely the place

43:54

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43:57

small things. Yeah. Now we're in

43:59

the Ozem. era of LA.

44:01

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44:03

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44:06

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I feel like I've dated dudes who

47:00

like implied it would be nicer if

47:02

I were smaller or like they're

47:04

like, oh, I like your personality, but like, why

47:06

don't you go to the gym more? And I'm

47:08

like, what? I once I know I've talked about

47:10

this because a weird years ago, but I hooked

47:12

up with this dude who said, just because

47:15

I work in fitness doesn't mean I don't

47:17

like or don't not like your body. And

47:19

I was like, wait, what?

47:21

It's just like annoying because, you know, I

47:24

think a lot of like many a

47:26

times when men have been attracted to me, they literally

47:29

be like, I love your body.

47:32

Like, okay, do you go up to

47:34

a size two and like the first thing that

47:36

rolls out of your mouth is I love your

47:38

body? No, like, I don't need your extra dose

47:41

to feel confident. I'm a bad bitch. I know

47:43

I am. Like, you really don't have to make

47:45

me feel any better or any different about my

47:47

size. And it always made me feel uncomfortable because

47:49

I felt very sexualized automatically instead of

47:52

like, I like you. I

47:54

just want to get to know you. Yeah, I

47:56

think that's something I had to unlearn because when

47:58

I was younger, I was like, I'm I'm fine

48:00

with this body. It is what it is. I'm

48:03

gonna continue eating, so that's the choice

48:05

I'm making. But

48:08

then I would like sexualize myself to try

48:10

to make men like me. Because I was

48:12

like, I like me, but I don't think

48:14

they like what I'm serving. And now,

48:16

in my old age, and I'm

48:18

now 62, I'm

48:20

trying to unload. You look great for 62.

48:22

Thank you, black don't crack. But I'm trying

48:25

to like unlearn that to be like, well,

48:28

you can have the goodies, but just

48:30

like you gotta work a little bit for it. And

48:33

I shouldn't lead with my sexuality. I should

48:35

lead with like, I'm a nice person who's

48:37

in this world looking for love. And that's

48:39

been fucking hard, because I'm also horny. I

48:42

think I've said this like four times. Yeah, I said,

48:45

how you gonna get them after this tonight?

48:47

I don't know. I'm going out with

48:49

a friend tonight, and our goal, our whole goal is

48:51

to speak to at least one man each. Oh

48:54

wow, I love that for you. But

48:56

we're not in our hookup air anymore, remember? No,

48:58

but. Again, your thoughts don't connect. They don't connect.

49:02

Well, just talking to, I don't have to

49:04

go home with him. Smart, smart, smart, smart.

49:07

You know? Yeah. It's just like

49:09

getting the practice in, because I dated someone for a

49:11

little bit, so I feel a little out of practice

49:13

flirting. Right. So I'm like, God, I want to meet

49:15

someone in person, so I gotta get the practicing, I

49:17

gotta flirt with them. But then I'm also like, what

49:19

if we meet in a bar tonight? Yeah. And

49:22

then he's like, I'd like to see you again next week.

49:24

And I'm like, okay. And then I see him again

49:26

next week, and then maybe he's like, do

49:28

you want to go to dinner the week after that? And I go,

49:30

yes, so now that's three weeks in a row. And then we start hanging

49:32

out during the day, and then we go see movies, and then we're

49:34

dating, and then we're never married. I'm

49:37

screaming. Someone told me recently that I

49:39

don't know what the really good flirt. I

49:41

don't know what that means. Okay. I

49:44

think I smile a lot. Okay, I'm gonna practice

49:46

flirting with you. Okay, let's do it. Hi,

49:49

how are you? I'm good,

49:51

how are you? Wait, let me start over. Yeah, who are

49:53

you trying to be, Urkel? What's happening? I

49:56

instantly got afraid. Okay, hi.

49:59

Hey. Do you come here often? Here

50:01

and there. How about you? Oh my goodness. Today

50:04

is my first day. I'm bad at this. You're

50:06

scaring me. You should, uh,

50:09

I think you have to loosen up a little bit. You want to try this Cosmo?

50:12

Uh, yes. I'm trying

50:14

to make eye contact with you. Why are you

50:16

looking away? I know, because you're, this is overwhelming.

50:19

Why? And you are really good

50:21

at this. Am I? Yes. Oh

50:24

my God. Ha! Ha ha ha

50:26

ha. Okay. Wait, wait. Let

50:28

me try again. You don't have to be cool, actually, because I

50:30

feel like you, I feel like

50:32

there's somebody for everybody and, like,

50:35

if you're trying to be the cool thing, I feel like that's not

50:37

going to work out. You just have to be yourself.

50:39

Wow. But also just, like, wink a little bit. Twinkle

50:41

a little bit without... Wow, you just said I wasn't cool.

50:43

No! Ha ha ha ha ha. No! I'm

50:46

not cool either. No, I'm so far from cool. I'm just, I'm

50:48

a fun person. I'm not a fun person. I'm a, I'm a

50:50

good time. Not, I'm not cool. Okay.

50:55

Hi. Hey. Do you

50:57

come here a lot? Here and there. Actually,

50:59

this is my first time I've been here. Oh,

51:01

well, I'm hoping I get to see you more.

51:03

Oh my goodness. That, I like that.

51:07

Would you like me to give you a drink? The cosmology

51:09

are really good. Or you give me

51:11

more sex on the beach. Would you like one? Oh my

51:13

goodness, I think I have it like a sex on the

51:15

beach. Okay, I got you. Oh, wow. You're

51:17

going to pay for my drink? See, I... Yes.

51:21

As long as we make this our beach, now I'm joking. Ha

51:24

ha ha ha. You're, I can't... No!

51:27

Isn't she good at that? I try. Like,

51:29

you were making me bashful and I was

51:31

like, we're in a recording studio. Oh,

51:33

I love that. There's no threat of going

51:35

home with you. I was like, oh

51:37

my, I just, I would love a drink.

51:39

Sometimes you have to twinkle the eyes a

51:41

little bit. You know,

51:43

like when you see someone across the room, actually just the other day, like

51:45

when I was at the dining parties, yeah, you're doing me well. I

51:48

saw this guy across the room and then I got

51:51

up to eat because they don't really be giving you

51:53

no food at the very same time. They really don't.

51:55

And I got up to grab some like thing to

51:57

eat really quickly and he's like, didn't

51:59

you see me? like looking at you from across the room, I

52:01

was like, yeah, but why didn't you come up to me? Like

52:04

I just, I'm confused. Like I'm not coming up to

52:07

you. Like you better be on your man league for

52:09

me. Like, you know, so I'm like, why didn't

52:11

you like come up to me? Like I don't get it. He's

52:14

like, we're here now. Need whatever

52:17

you've been drinking. You know what? I'm really

52:19

good at like setting people up. Like I've

52:21

always been like, I'm great at it. And

52:23

the people I set up stay together for,

52:26

it's not forever for a long time. I'm

52:28

gonna think about my role deck. I can't set

52:30

myself up though, but everybody else, everybody else, like,

52:33

I feel like in another life, I was loose,

52:35

cupid. Maybe you were. And

52:37

I had a psychic tell me in another

52:40

life, I was a princess and I was

52:42

like, yay. A

52:44

good princess. And I was like, people

52:47

wait on me, but I see it

52:49

for myself. Yeah, okay. So I'm

52:51

looking for someone with a little bit of money,

52:54

a job, no dream. Not

52:56

a job. Okay,

52:58

a career. I

53:00

want them to be living their dream. Yes. I

53:03

would prefer someone tall, but I can do a short

53:05

thing. What's tall? I

53:08

think I'm really tall. How

53:10

tall are you? Turns out five, five. But

53:13

girl, bye. I

53:15

really wasn't waiting for you to say something crazy. I'm five,

53:18

five. I thought I was five, seven for

53:20

a really long time. Me too. I think

53:22

we just have big, big energy. I think

53:24

so too. I genuinely always thought I was

53:26

tall and I went to the doctor's and

53:28

he's like, you know, you're like five, five.

53:30

You're like, you're like three quarters. My

53:33

best friend is five, seven. And in pictures, I'm

53:35

always shorter than her. And I was like, you're

53:37

lying about your height, your six foot. And she

53:39

was like, no. It's always the shorties. My friend's

53:41

a good five too. And she tells her when

53:43

she's five, nine. And I'm like, it's not

53:45

giving that at all, at all. Relax.

53:48

That's me, but yeah, five, five. So like to

53:50

me, I'm like, I want someone who's six, five.

53:53

But like anything over like five,

53:55

10 is tall, I guess. Oh,

53:57

that's cute. I don't know. But

54:00

I want someone who's like six foot, but people be lying

54:02

all the time. So I'm like, oh, lie. I don't know

54:04

what six foot actually is. Oh my gosh, one time I

54:06

went, one time I went

54:08

on a date with this guy from the online world,

54:10

and it very much said like six feet or six

54:12

feet or whatever, and I showed up and met, and I

54:14

was like, this person is my height. And

54:17

I'm just confused because did

54:19

you not think I was ever gonna find out? Like, did

54:21

you not think about like the process about when we

54:23

meet? Uh-huh. Insane. Maybe

54:26

he thought you were gonna be shorter, and then he

54:28

was like, you should just automatically be taller, and it'll

54:30

be fine. Is that the worst date you've been on?

54:32

Oh, that was really bad, actually was really

54:34

bad. And he kept trying to touch my hand, and

54:36

I was like, uh-uh. Like

54:38

I just, and it's not because he was short.

54:40

I just think it's weird that you would say that, and

54:43

have such a big- Was he trying to

54:45

hold your hand across the street? Yeah. He

54:48

was like, uh, I need, I need, I need your hand.

54:52

I just like, I don't know why people lie about

54:54

that. I'm just very confused. I don't know why

54:56

people lie in general. I think a lot of girls

54:59

would be okay with dating like

55:01

short kings, like, as long as you're lying. I

55:03

think so, yeah. I don't know about me, but I think a lot

55:05

of girls would be okay, they should. You know,

55:07

I'm a sicker girl, so like, I

55:11

wanna feel a little protected. Yeah, that's

55:13

what I- In certain ways. And then,

55:15

I think that's why like, men that

55:17

are taller. But, uh,

55:19

yeah. What's the worst date that

55:21

you've been on? Oh. That

55:26

was a bad one, honestly, because I remember like, after

55:28

like, the dinner and stuff, he was like, oh, do

55:30

you wanna go back and watch a movie? And like,

55:32

you know, like, add his house. Like, no.

55:34

But there was this one time, it's

55:37

the only time that's ever happened to me, where I

55:39

went on the date with this guy in New

55:41

York, and he was just like,

55:43

so on me, whatever. We get on this, we get

55:45

to like, the date, and

55:48

like, I think like, halfway through, he

55:50

was like, to the radio, like, oh yeah, it's gonna be like, a separate

55:52

bill. And like, I don't think I realized he

55:54

had said that. And then like, at the end

55:56

of it, like, it really was separate.

55:58

And to me, like- to me

56:01

it was just more funny than anything because it had

56:03

never happened to me. But

56:05

to me it was more hilarious because afterwards he

56:07

was like, let's use this, let's use that. And

56:10

then he was texting me like, oh I can't

56:12

wait to see you again. And I was thinking

56:14

like, what in your mind ever made you think

56:16

we were ever gonna have eye contact, any

56:18

messages or anything? I'm so sorry, maybe I'm a little

56:21

old school in that way but if you're taking me

56:23

out, you are taking me out. I am not listening

56:25

to the singer. I'm not the girl to fake it

56:27

to you and be like, when

56:29

it comes and then you go and pretend

56:31

that you're, no I'm gonna stand there still

56:34

face. I'm not gonna move,

56:36

I pretend. And I wait

56:38

for them to go, oh I got it. And

56:40

I go, do you? Okay. No, and I know

56:42

some men say they think it's nice if you

56:44

at least offer, I'm not offering. Because

56:47

what happens when they're like, okay. Can't

56:50

you got it? Like no, I'm so sorry, I'm

56:52

not gonna lie to you at all. You

56:54

gotta make me feel like you have to be

56:56

chivalrous. But what if you asked them on a

56:58

date? I would never ask them on a date,

57:01

I'm sorry. Really? I wouldn't, I

57:04

don't think I would. Would

57:06

you ever propose? Are you the type, I was gonna

57:08

say, are you the type of girl to give on

57:10

your knees and propose to

57:12

someone? That's what I was gonna ask you. Never,

57:15

like no, my African roots,

57:18

I don't know, the answers will come and be

57:20

my ass. Like absolutely not, no. I don't think

57:22

I would ever propose to someone because I don't

57:25

necessarily want to get married. But

57:28

I feel like I've asked people out on

57:30

dates. You have, so did you pay? What

57:32

is that life like? No, wait,

57:34

I'm trying to think, I

57:38

don't think, honestly, I think to all my

57:40

sisters that do it, you guys are the

57:42

strongest warriors, I'm happy you do it so I don't have to. But

57:46

I just like, I don't know. I think

57:48

for me, I'm in control of

57:50

a lot, actually I don't know how

57:52

to say it. I'm

57:55

like a boss in what

57:57

I do for music. So like, I

58:00

like the idea of like, maybe you are the

58:02

boss somewhere at home. Ah, I get that. I'm

58:04

kind of like hot. That's

58:07

like when businessmen like dominatrixes because

58:09

they're in the boardroom as the

58:11

boss and then waiting steps on

58:13

them. Like I'm manifesting a get ready

58:15

we're going out. Cars coming at 730.

58:18

Yeah. Yeah, I like that. I

58:21

think it's kind of sexy. I like

58:23

that in theory. Oh yeah, you

58:25

can only get that kind of treatment from someone you're

58:27

like attracted to because anyone else is like who are you

58:30

talking to? Anyone else is very

58:32

much like you better stop. Well

58:34

I just like, I

58:36

don't think I've ever dated anyone who's like

58:38

I've planned a thing we're doing this at

58:40

this time. Where's this? I've been to

58:42

everyone I've ever dated it's like we're gonna you want to go out

58:45

or you want to go? I

58:47

don't like that and it's hard

58:49

because I'm like

58:51

it's hard because like I can say like oh these are some

58:53

things I like and then you pick it out. But to

58:55

like I just need to take charge a little

58:57

bit if you're asking me on a date. Fair.

59:00

Like that I don't know to me it'd be like then that means you might

59:03

not know how to take charge in any other way and I

59:05

would like those are like what I relate to.

59:08

Mm-hmm okay so

59:11

we have like reached the end. I

59:14

do ask all of my guests if I've only missed

59:16

it maybe three or four times. Yeah. But

59:19

would you date me? Oh I

59:21

would you know. I like someone who's fun.

59:23

I think you're beautiful. I like someone

59:26

who gives a little funniness excitement but

59:28

also that is on their business because

59:31

some people are like some people are like

59:33

talk to you or too they're trying to

59:35

be funny too much and it's like I need you

59:37

to work. People nowadays just don't

59:40

want to work enough. I need you to make

59:42

some money so we can survive. So you're on

59:44

your shit you're beautiful and I don't know let's

59:46

see where this goes. Yes

59:49

thank you. Do you have anything you want to

59:51

promote? I

59:53

have a new song it's called nothing

59:55

but love. You know a lot

59:58

of times when you break up with somebody. I

1:00:01

think it's easier to say you hate somebody. It's like so much

1:00:03

easier. And if you did hate somebody,

1:00:05

it's easier to move on. But

1:00:07

this song is about being like, I still have

1:00:09

nothing but love for you. And it's

1:00:12

very heartbreaking. And stream it,

1:00:14

look how it eh. You like stream it,

1:00:16

feel bad? Yes, but then once you're over

1:00:18

the heartbreak, you can go listen to Hotter

1:00:20

Now or Pretty Girl Era and feel really

1:00:22

hot about yourself. I love that. I will

1:00:24

say this, whenever people hate their exes, it

1:00:27

really makes me sad, because I'm like, how

1:00:29

did you love someone? That you now hate. And

1:00:31

then you hate them? Like it got

1:00:33

so bad that now you hate them. I never

1:00:36

want that. I always like, it's

1:00:38

a weird, I don't know, I think it's such

1:00:40

a weird emotion. I think, I don't

1:00:42

know if a lot of them really hate people. I think they just hate

1:00:44

them because they can't have them. So it's easier

1:00:46

to say that you hate that person. But

1:00:49

I don't know, if you share something

1:00:51

so intimate with someone, how could you just one day

1:00:54

be like, you are nothing to me or

1:00:56

you are dead to me? That being said,

1:00:58

I'm the best at the block button. So

1:01:00

I don't know what I'm talking about. Not

1:01:02

me, everyone I've ever dated, there's an open

1:01:04

door. Really? Well if you wanna

1:01:06

just check in, see how I'm doing?

1:01:10

I'm gonna pray for you because the standards are

1:01:12

gonna get higher, the right person is gonna come

1:01:14

to you and love your weirdness and the body

1:01:16

and what you bring. I mean, I'm kidding, my

1:01:19

exes, it's not an open door. Most of them

1:01:21

are married. And by exes, I mean people I

1:01:23

dated for a couple months. You said both of

1:01:25

them are married. Wait,

1:01:28

so is it really close or is it only close because

1:01:30

they're married? Well, I mean,

1:01:32

now I've had so much distance with a lot of people I've

1:01:34

dated. And truly, I've only dated

1:01:36

someone for like a couple of months at a

1:01:39

time. Now

1:01:41

that there's distance, I'm like, oh yeah, this person really

1:01:43

was not a good fit for me because of X, Y, and

1:01:45

Z. This person was a bad fit because of this. So

1:01:48

I understand why they weren't a bad fit,

1:01:50

but in the moment of breaking up or not seeing

1:01:52

each other, I was like, but why?

1:01:54

I'm curious, I'm curious, have you ever

1:01:56

asked an ex, like why didn't it work out? No,

1:02:00

because I know. Do

1:02:02

you know what I mean? I'm like 99% sure. I

1:02:06

know. Really? Yes. Because

1:02:09

sometimes I feel like people should sell you on

1:02:11

the dream and then one day they just poof. Well,

1:02:14

I think it's when they sell you on the

1:02:16

dream and they poof, it was like, I

1:02:18

actually didn't like you like you. I

1:02:20

liked the idea of you. I

1:02:22

liked the attention you were giving me. And then I

1:02:25

found someone I clicked with better or I'm moving on

1:02:27

to somebody else that is giving me attention. And

1:02:29

it feels newer or fresh. So

1:02:32

I never think it's like I

1:02:34

did something because it's not

1:02:37

technically about me. You

1:02:39

are the main character in your own story. So

1:02:41

it might've been something I did

1:02:43

that made you feel a certain type of

1:02:45

way, but that feeling has nothing to do with

1:02:47

me. So I usually chalk

1:02:49

it up to like, we just weren't a

1:02:52

good match and you just

1:02:54

didn't wanna fuck with me anymore. Which is

1:02:56

like, you know, that's your prerogative. That doesn't

1:02:58

make sense. I think it's just hard to

1:03:00

find genuine people. It is, it is hard.

1:03:02

Especially being like a business woman in

1:03:05

these types of industries and a

1:03:07

crazy schedule. Yeah, I do have like

1:03:10

a very shitty schedule. Yeah, all

1:03:12

those things like back and forth. I think

1:03:14

we live in a world where a lot of

1:03:16

times women wait out for

1:03:18

men, but men are not used

1:03:20

to waiting out for women. No. That

1:03:23

lead these types of lives because I think some

1:03:25

of them feel emasculated. I don't know. I

1:03:27

don't know what it is, but. And a little intimidated

1:03:29

maybe. I don't know if I know. Yeah, I know.

1:03:31

All I know is base coming because I deserve and

1:03:33

you deserve. Yes, 2024. If

1:03:38

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nice person said, I can't wait to see

1:03:56

your show next month. And I have a proposal

1:03:58

to enrich your trip. A next morning. smash

1:04:00

session with breakfast included. Nom nom nom

1:04:02

nom nom nom. I'll ram you with

1:04:04

a massive strap on and like torture

1:04:06

your clit with your Saragon until your

1:04:08

juices get so creamy and frothy, ew,

1:04:10

that I can scoop them out into

1:04:13

a bowl. Then I'll tickle your butthole

1:04:15

until you snart, sneeze fart, and release

1:04:17

a bunch of dingleberries for me to

1:04:19

add to the cream. Ew, I don't

1:04:21

have dingleberries. And to top it all

1:04:23

off, I'll swoop on in

1:04:25

my big old mouth to pleasure you until

1:04:27

you squirt. Then hold the bowl up to

1:04:29

catch that as all the sweet

1:04:31

toppings. Bon appetit! That was nasty.

1:04:34

It just kept on going. It

1:04:36

did. This one's even longer. Oh

1:04:38

my lord. Thank you

1:04:40

so much. Bye bye. Thank you for having me.

1:04:46

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1:04:48

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