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Hi, this is Rachel

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McElroy. Hi,

0:19

this is Griffin McElroy. And this is Wonderful.

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This is Wonderful, a show where we talk about

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things we like that's good that we're into. A

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lot of people say, who the hell are you

0:28

to tell me what is good?

0:31

A lot of times just people on the street just walk right

0:33

up to us. Yeah, they just say, who the hell

0:35

are you? They don't even say the other stuff. And I

0:37

say, hi, I'm Rachel. And I say, hi, I'm Griffin. And

0:39

then they give us $200. No.

0:43

I don't know why. That doesn't happen for me. Oh,

0:46

man, I'm always getting to here in DC. Specifically,

0:48

$200. Specifically here in

0:50

DC, you tell someone your name, they give

0:53

you $200 and a nice

0:55

firm handshake. Usually it's

0:57

a politics guy who does it. Yeah, yeah,

0:59

yeah. Because they want

1:02

you to feel like you're part of the process, part

1:04

of the machine. And

1:06

that's so huge for me. I'm

1:09

so happy to be here in the studio

1:11

with my lovely wife, Rachel,

1:13

to tell you about all

1:15

these wonderful experiences that we've

1:17

been having. I got so scared that

1:20

you were going to spring something on me. I'm so happy

1:22

to be here today because I need to tell you. I've

1:25

found a new co-host. And his

1:28

name is Reggie. He is super funny. We

1:30

are not married, me and Reggie, but he's

1:33

got a lot of big ideas. An

1:35

escape ward, and I can't compete with

1:37

that. No. I mean, you're pretty

1:39

good at skateboard. I will

1:41

say you're more of a street skater.

1:44

Reggie's more vert. But

1:46

do you have any small wonder? Like Reggie

1:48

doesn't ever come up with small wonders, so

1:50

maybe you can hedge the market there.

1:54

I'm going to say the feeling

1:56

after you get your teeth cleaned.

1:59

Yeah. And it's just like

2:01

I did a good thing and now it's

2:03

done. I

2:05

mean, ideally I wouldn't have to go back. Unfortunately I do because

2:07

it had been several years. But

2:10

I had this feeling of like, I've been thinking about

2:12

this for a while and I haven't done it and

2:14

now I did it. And that was a good thing

2:16

and I'm glad. I also

2:18

went a long time without dentistry because

2:20

of COVID. Became very easy to say

2:22

like, well, I don't want someone in

2:24

my mouth. Seems like the worst place

2:26

for them to be. But then last year

2:28

I sort of broke the

2:30

dam and I did a

2:32

lot of dentistry work last year. And now I

2:34

feel like I'm good for another three or four

2:37

years. Just kind of like kick it. And then

2:39

they tell you, they say, hey, we say every six

2:41

months, but you've been such a good boy. You've been

2:43

a good boy, go on your own dental journey. And

2:46

so that's my current plan. I'm gonna say

2:48

Taskmaster, man. We've gotten back into it in

2:51

such a big way. We fell off. Didn't

2:53

we mention that last week? Maybe we just mentioned

2:55

that we were watching it. Man, I don't

2:57

know. We've finished the most recent series,

2:59

I think, series 16. So

3:02

funny. Just, I think the best cast

3:04

front to back. Just-

3:07

Sue Perkins. Sue Perkins. I'm pretty sure we talked

3:09

about this last week. Okay, did we? Well- But

3:11

maybe it wasn't your small wonder. Maybe we were just-

3:13

Maybe just shooting the shit. Let me do that

3:15

sometimes. That's the thing on this show. You

3:18

go first this week. I do. And I would

3:20

love to hear what you've prepared for us

3:22

today. So I decided that my topic should be, and

3:25

I've kind of been wanting to do this for a

3:27

while, and it was one of those things I had

3:29

to check and make sure we haven't done this, because

3:31

I've been thinking about it, but I didn't know if

3:33

I would have enough to say, but it is the

3:35

stadium organist. Yes, yes,

3:37

huge. Yes. What

3:40

a weird facet of just

3:43

sort of sports culture, of

3:45

just like, organists are

3:47

in two buildings. One is

3:49

church, the other is sports

3:52

buildings. And I like that. It's

3:54

true. Is the

3:56

connection there that we are supposed to be

3:59

church-like in- sports arena, is

4:01

it meant to sort of

4:03

evoke a transcendental experience

4:07

while you're watching these beautiful games

4:09

being played? Well, so organists used to

4:11

be like in movie theaters too. Right, I

4:13

guess. Like if you were doing live accompanied

4:16

entertainment, it was usually an

4:18

organist that was doing it. Yeah. I

4:21

wish they still did that by the way and didn't

4:23

warn you, but you just like

4:26

walked into Wonka, which is

4:28

a musical, but they have

4:30

just an organist sort of jamming over the

4:32

other music that is taking place. Yeah,

4:36

it always feels really delightful to me. Some of

4:38

it is nostalgia. Some of it is like if

4:40

you are somebody that went to sporting events as

4:42

a child, it is maybe

4:44

one of the few things that feel

4:46

similar, you know? Like it's, I

4:49

don't know, it's been a constant for a lot

4:51

of teams for a long time. And

4:55

there's just something, I don't know, it's like, I

4:58

find it delightful. One

5:00

time I was visiting my nani in Florida with,

5:03

I mean, my whole family was there and she

5:06

took us to a pizza restaurant

5:09

that had an organist, but he also

5:11

had like all those other like wild

5:13

supplemental, like there's a button

5:15

that sets off symbols. It's

5:18

like that, I think you should leave

5:20

sketch with Fred Willard. Yeah. And

5:23

it was a really, really, really,

5:25

really weird fucking vibe, just the

5:27

weirdest vibe. It was not suitable,

5:29

I think, for a dining experience.

5:32

I think it's also like a lot of

5:34

environments you go into just have background music,

5:36

you know? Like if you go into a

5:38

retail establishment, usually they have some kind of

5:40

music playing. But the organ really

5:42

stands out. You really notice like this is

5:44

different. I have a deep fondness for

5:46

the organ right now because I've been

5:48

incorporating a lot of organ into the

5:50

music for our upcoming adventure zone series,

5:52

which starts tomorrow, the adventure zone versus

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Dracula, quick plug, check that out, it's

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organ heavy. Okay.

6:00

So, organs, as

6:02

I mentioned, were used in theaters, obviously

6:04

church. They first started

6:06

appearing in sporting events at Chicago Stadium,

6:09

which is where the Chicago Blackhawks and

6:11

the Chicago Bulls played in 1929. Geez,

6:15

wow. That's a long time ago. Yeah, I

6:18

guess that is kind of the golden age

6:20

of organs. Now,

6:23

when I was researching this, they

6:25

talked about how organs were used

6:27

for, quote, a psychological accompaniment for

6:29

events, which it

6:32

was used in quotes. I have not searched out

6:34

the source on that, but

6:37

I like this term, this like

6:39

phrasing of psychological accompaniment. Yeah, I

6:41

guess so. It's really supposed to

6:43

get you hype. Yeah, that's weird.

6:46

Oh, like in 1929, I get it. Cause

6:48

we didn't have like a bunch of other stuff,

6:50

but then like, you know, I

6:52

think that Darude creating

6:55

Sandstorm really rendered

6:58

a lot of organ or other

7:00

sort of sports music completely redundant.

7:03

But I do love the, I guess the novelty

7:05

of keeping that, keeping that dream alive. I have

7:07

no idea the reference you just made. Darude

7:15

Sandstorm? I swear to God, you'd

7:17

know it. If it's, man, now

7:19

I have to play Darude Sandstorm. Oh,

7:25

yeah. Sports. Okay. Yeah. Sports. hockey.

7:27

hockey. basketball. football. baseball. Let's go.

7:29

hockey. Let's go. What

7:33

is this? This is the new theme song. So maybe

7:36

just for live shows. We would have to start the

7:38

whole show differently. We would have to come out

7:40

in jerseys. Yeah. Okay. I

7:43

don't want to have to pay Darude any

7:45

money. So,

7:47

organs, as they

7:49

are typically used today and have been

7:51

used, National Anthem charges

7:55

the short musical pieces that

7:57

foreshadow something happening. So

7:59

like. Duh duh duh duh duh

8:01

duh duh duh. Yep, yep. Clappers.

8:05

What's that? Music or melodies that get fans

8:07

excited. I don't, okay. Okay,

8:09

clappers is what we call those? Yeah, like let's

8:11

go. That's a real clapper. Yeah.

8:14

And then in baseball, the seventh inning stretch.

8:17

Yeah. As

8:19

you mentioned though, organists starting to

8:21

fall out of favor in the 80s and 90s.

8:26

The Tampa Bay Lightning though took out 574

8:28

seats in their arena to

8:31

install the largest pipe organ in the league

8:33

back in 2011. I like

8:35

that. That's what you kind of love. Like everybody's kind

8:37

of moving away from it and they're like, no, no,

8:39

no, no, no, no, not us. No, we're

8:41

gonna make sure people can't buy tickets. So we have a

8:43

big organ. Yeah. There are

8:46

a few teams that don't have it.

8:48

A lot of them, it's said

8:51

that it just kind of doesn't match the tone,

8:53

which I kind of understand. So for example, Vegas,

8:55

which is a relatively new team. Tried

8:58

out an organ, felt like it didn't really fit.

9:00

And I think it's kind of

9:02

like the nostalgia thing I was talking about.

9:05

Like if you have been with a team for

9:07

decades and the organ is part of it, you

9:09

hear it and you're like, yay. Yeah. But

9:12

if you've got a brand new team in your

9:14

city, you're like, wait, what is this?

9:16

Like I was just jamming out to the black

9:18

eyed peas and now there's an organ? Jokes

9:20

aside, I would be very curious

9:23

to hear how organ

9:26

adoption fell off when

9:28

jock jams became

9:32

like the conversation.

9:36

Yeah, no, so a lot of

9:38

the articles I read were

9:40

recent, like 2022. Washington

9:44

Capitals is somebody who got rid

9:46

of their organist after 22 years,

9:49

the same organist. That's the thing, that's the other

9:51

thing is that people that become the organist stay

9:54

the organist. Well, yeah, that's who all plays the

9:56

organ. It can't be too many folks. This

9:58

also happened with Vancouver. That

10:00

same year, 2022, they got rid of their organist.

10:04

I say I, it's AI

10:06

taking all the organist jobs. Of

10:10

the 32 NHL teams, only

10:12

six don't have organists. It

10:14

includes Philadelphia, Carolina, Dallas, Arizona,

10:17

Vegas, Edmonton, and I guess

10:19

now Vancouver as well. Tragic,

10:22

a tragedy. How do you even get psyched for

10:25

hockey without an organ bump in your years? Another

10:28

new team, the Seattle Kraken, brought in

10:30

an organist, very specifically, apparently. I don't

10:33

know a lot about the film Slap

10:35

Shot, but their organist is

10:37

the same organist that played in the 1977

10:39

movie Slap Shot. He

10:42

apparently cold called them when they were getting

10:44

started and was like, hey, I happen to

10:46

play the organ if you're looking for somebody.

10:49

And they brought him in and now he's just part

10:51

of the scene. I do like that. Assert

10:53

yourself. Put yourself out there. I

10:55

didn't realize that the St. Louis Blues

10:57

had a particularly notable organist until I

10:59

was reading this article about Seattle and

11:02

it said one of the peers he reached out

11:04

to for advice is Jeremy Boyer, who has been

11:06

the organist for the St. Louis Blues for 15

11:08

years. It

11:10

has a massive social media following, which I

11:12

was like, what? I mean, I don't know

11:14

what massive is. He's got, I mean, for

11:17

an organist. Right. It's a

11:19

matter of perspective, I imagine. He has like

11:21

over 100,000 subscribers. Pretty

11:23

fucking good, I will say, for anyone, especially

11:25

an organist. Probably, yeah,

11:27

pretty good. He has been

11:29

around, so I don't know a lot about organist

11:32

history in St. Louis. Ernie

11:34

Hayes for 30 years did both the

11:36

Cardinals games and the St. Louis Blues

11:39

games. Damn busy dude. And when

11:41

he passed in 2012, Jeremy

11:43

Boyer took over for both of those roles. So

11:47

the same dude plays for the cards also? Yes.

11:50

That's a pretty, that's a lot

11:52

of playing an instrument, I will

11:54

say. Well, and as you

11:57

mentioned, his other gig, perhaps

12:01

not surprisingly, I don't know how common this is,

12:03

but he also plays

12:07

at his church. Okay. That

12:09

is his his role. He

12:11

is the director of sacred music and

12:14

liturgy at St. Francis of Assisi's Catholic

12:16

Church in Oakville. And

12:18

also plays organ covers

12:20

of Black Eyed Peas songs every

12:23

other night. Yeah, so if you

12:25

want to look this guy up on

12:27

YouTube, I sent Griffin some links. I

12:29

particularly enjoyed his cover of Rage Against

12:31

the Machine's Killing in the Name of

12:33

it. Yeah, really, really, really

12:35

good. Part of his appeal and I

12:38

think social media following is that he will

12:42

organize, have no right

12:44

to be organized. Yeah, he

12:46

did a medley of

12:48

songs from the 2010s

12:50

that included like Katy Perry's

12:53

firework. Can't

12:55

Stop the Feeling, Party Rock Anthem.

12:57

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Just a

12:59

delight. There's something so charming to

13:01

me about a modern music being

13:04

played on a old-timey instrument. Yeah,

13:06

for sure. Jerry Blair, also a

13:09

young guy. He is only two

13:11

years older than me. So like

13:13

somebody... He's only two years old.

13:15

It's incredible, one, that he

13:21

can play this huge instrument, too, that he's been playing it for

13:23

15 years. That's wild. No,

13:29

I didn't think people in their 40s were playing the

13:31

organ, but apparently

13:33

he got his Bachelor of

13:35

Musical Education at the Southeast

13:37

Missouri State University and just started

13:40

playing the organ right around the

13:42

time that he graduated college and

13:44

kind of apprenticed with this Ernie

13:46

Hayes guy who... I love

13:48

that. Was the previous organist. It's

13:50

amazing when we talked about, what

13:52

are they called? Carillon bells? The

13:54

big help desk towers? And there's

13:56

like six people alive who do

13:58

that shit. I have to

14:00

imagine there's more organists, but

14:03

not like a ton more.

14:05

Yeah, yeah, anyway, this is one

14:07

of those relics that

14:11

I don't know may have an expiration

14:13

date on it, but I really enjoy

14:15

that it exists. Yeah, for sure. And

14:17

it feels like part of attending a

14:19

sports event. Especially when it is reactionary

14:22

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14:24

the field. They'll play that Na

14:28

na na na hey hey goodbye song

14:30

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14:32

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14:34

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14:37

obviously, when they have to, in hockey anyway,

14:39

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14:41

have to kill a penalty, it

14:43

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14:45

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14:47

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appetizers. Appetizers. Oh,

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you're good at this. Appetizers? Well,

19:13

I just feel like you always have an eye out for

19:15

it. Appetizers, yeah, for sure. That used to

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19:19

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19:21

you off with anything? I would instinctively say no. Yeah.

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19:25

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19:28

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the extravagant hedonist that I

19:32

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19:34

is like a McElroy family tradition though. It's just

19:36

always having like a selection of apps. I

19:39

like a selection. Yeah, for sure. I like

19:41

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19:43

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19:45

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19:47

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19:56

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19:58

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20:00

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20:02

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20:05

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20:11

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20:13

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20:15

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20:18

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20:21

main course, which feels like sort of

20:23

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20:25

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20:28

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20:30

want to pay for additional food that I was not coming

20:32

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20:35

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20:37

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20:40

when we go to a restaurant, I

20:42

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20:44

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20:47

us to get out to a restaurant

20:50

with or without our children. A

20:52

huge draw for me is like

20:55

experiencing that restaurant. Like getting a

20:57

feel, I like to feel like

20:59

I've gotten a feel for

21:01

like what that restaurant's whole vibe is

21:04

all about. I love going to a

21:06

restaurant, like finding out what the like

21:08

big all-star item on the menu is

21:10

and trying it and just

21:12

feeling like there's an understanding there and

21:15

appetizers are the easiest

21:17

way to accomplish that in my

21:19

book. Can I ask you, and you may not be aware

21:21

of this, but when you get a menu, you

21:23

look at the entrees first and then go

21:25

to the appetizers? Absolutely not, wild. No. Oh

21:27

really? When you read a book, do you jump

21:29

in at chapter 15? I

21:32

always like, I figure out like, what do I want

21:34

to eat? And then it's like, oh, do any of

21:36

these things up top look good too? I

21:39

start with the main and then double back on

21:41

apps, but I didn't know if that's how you

21:43

did it. When I am choosing an appetizer

21:45

and a main course, I am

21:47

building a narrative. Yeah, of course.

21:50

For the meal. The two things have to be in

21:52

conversation with each other. So like, it's

21:55

hard to tell which one I look at first because

21:57

I'm kind of looking at both of them at the

21:59

same. time to write a

22:01

story of food. Or

22:04

I guess reading the story that

22:06

the restaurant has built for me. There's

22:10

some appetizer staples that I will always like spring

22:12

for if I see them on a menu. I

22:14

love an egg roll. I love an oyster. I

22:18

love a, if we go

22:20

to like any kind of like Tex-Mex restaurant, like

22:22

I will want to get chips in either guac

22:24

or queso. Okay, so if I'm feeling naughty.

22:27

And these are not things that you can make

22:29

a whole meal out of, right? Like I

22:32

would not ever have a meal of egg

22:34

rolls. But as

22:36

like a little bonus bite, that's always

22:39

very, very exciting for me. If

22:42

we are going to like, I genuinely,

22:45

jokes aside, do like to kind of like

22:47

think about how my appetizer is going to

22:49

pair with the main course. Yeah, if we

22:51

go to a Japanese restaurant and I know

22:54

I'm going to be eating raw

22:56

fish or some other sort

22:58

of sushi experience from my

23:01

main course. I like to

23:03

start out with something like fried and greasy

23:05

that is not going to be anything like

23:07

what I'm going to have for my main

23:09

course. And I think that's why you

23:12

get so many options in the vein of like Takoyaki

23:15

or Gyoza or I

23:17

love a croquette, like a potato

23:19

croquette. There's something fried and

23:22

kind of greasy and then you

23:24

get that just a peak

23:26

of freshness with the sushi experience

23:28

at the tail end. And

23:31

then there's of course like restaurants where the

23:33

apps are sort of the star of the

23:36

show, be it a cheesecake

23:38

factory or a Chili's or you

23:40

know, an Applebee's, which

23:43

we don't hit up, I would say a

23:45

lot these days. It still really surprises me

23:47

a lot when I'm at a restaurant like

23:49

that. And it's like your apps can range

23:51

from like garlic bread to like

23:54

crab rangoon to like

23:56

pretzel bites, you know,

23:58

just like every. app you could think of. But

24:01

that's great because now you've just given me

24:03

an even greater challenge in writing a food

24:05

story tonight. Yeah. In

24:08

the Cheesecake Factory. Writing a food story

24:10

at the Cheesecake Factory is like improv.

24:12

It's like your audience has yelled at

24:14

you like a bunch of really incongruous

24:17

sort of suggestions and it's up to you

24:19

to kind of like make a narrative out

24:21

of it. As you know,

24:23

my tastes have become slightly more refined and my

24:25

access to like very good food has developed,

24:29

you know, tapas is just all

24:31

appetizers. That's basically what that is.

24:35

If we go to like a place

24:37

with like a chef's tasting menu, small

24:39

bites, fuck yeah. Like yeah, absolutely. That's

24:42

an appetizer marathon and I'm here for

24:44

that as well. I'm just

24:46

saying when you get appetizers with your main

24:48

course, you get two dinners and

24:50

that is just efficient.

24:53

It is hard to track the

24:55

exact origin of appetizers because it's

24:57

not that outrageous of an

24:59

idea to have a little dinner

25:02

before you get dinner. Well,

25:04

and the way I always view it too is like

25:06

how hungry am I? If I am super hungry and

25:08

it's going to take a while for my food to

25:10

come out, like give me something to pass the

25:12

time. That's a good point. I get the

25:14

changes based on what you're bringing into the

25:17

experience. But across a broad range of cultures,

25:19

there are different takes

25:21

on appetizers. There's

25:23

the Russian zakuska, the

25:26

Middle Eastern mezze, the

25:28

Swedish smorgasbord, the Italian

25:30

antipasto. All the

25:32

way back to like ancient Rome, dinners

25:34

were usually two main courses with a

25:36

bunch of little bits of like fish

25:40

and cheese and veggies

25:42

and other stuff mixed

25:44

in there which they called promosus. Ancient

25:47

Greeks did something similar called it propoma.

25:51

It's really cornered the market all the

25:53

way back to like the Middle Ages

25:55

with your hors d'oeuvres, your

25:58

canapés, your entremets. your

26:00

mozzarella sticks. Entremies also sometimes

26:03

weren't food, it would just be like a

26:05

little bit of art that they would bring

26:07

out, which is wild. I don't want that.

26:09

I don't want that. I don't

26:11

want that. I'm sorry, I can't finish. I'm full up

26:13

on art. I felt all the way up on art.

26:17

They would just know that it is good

26:19

to bring out a bunch of little dishes

26:21

either before or between the main courses. The

26:24

order of which specifically in France became

26:27

sort of more and more formalized throughout

26:30

history. Though

26:32

there are a lot of different sort of versions of

26:35

appetizers throughout history, the logic

26:38

behind appetizers in sort of ancient cultures

26:41

was pretty uniform and it was to have

26:43

a little bit of food to

26:45

stimulate the appetite before you ate

26:48

a lot of food. That

26:50

seems weird to me, I will say,

26:52

because I have never tucked into a

26:56

order of mozzarella sticks thinking like,

26:58

this is really going to get

27:00

me hungrier for the

27:03

meal that is to follow. I know

27:05

I am always robbing Peter to pay

27:07

Paul. I am not

27:09

like starting up my eating engine

27:12

by having a bunch of mozzarella

27:14

sticks. This leads me to a question.

27:16

Do you consider a basket of bread

27:18

an appetizer? Yeah, sure. I

27:21

mean, not legally, but

27:25

it is a starter. It is a pre-think.

27:28

I feel like we've talked about starter bread

27:30

specifically on the show before. I'm trying to

27:32

broaden the horizons a little bit by including

27:34

all sort of starters because

27:38

I know I'm not getting hungrier by eating an

27:40

appetizer. I am reducing my capacity for the main

27:42

meal, but I don't care because that's the last

27:44

benefit in my book of the appetizer. And I

27:47

swear by this, whether I'm out at a restaurant

27:49

or ordering out from like a nice restaurant, it's

27:52

why I almost always spring for

27:54

appetizers. If you eat the appetizer,

27:56

you eat less main course, which

27:58

means leftovers. That's something you

28:00

have taught me. Yes. This

28:03

idea that the appetizer is part of your

28:05

meal and that when you get

28:08

full, you will probably still have entree left,

28:10

which is good news. That's lunch.

28:12

That's tomorrow's lunch and that's amazing. We

28:17

don't have the opportunity to go out to restaurants

28:19

a lot and so I feel like choosing food

28:22

when we do have that experience is

28:24

somewhat stressful because you wanna do

28:26

it, you wanna win dinner. You

28:28

wanna do the right thing. And

28:30

I feel like knowing that I

28:32

can have a few different options

28:34

via appetizers takes a lot of

28:37

the weight and stress off of

28:39

that decision. I

28:41

just, I love appetizers.

28:44

Yeah, no, I know that about you. By the way,

28:46

as you were talking, I was thinking about how a

28:48

restaurant that served very large portions and called

28:50

themselves tomorrow's lunch would be. That's huge. Would

28:53

be great. That's really, that's a really good

28:55

one. I wanna get that on record. 2024,

28:58

Rachel McElroy tomorrow's lunch. Unfortunately,

29:01

that isn't how any of

29:03

this works. I've

29:05

learned, unfortunately, after generating so many

29:08

great ideas. You mean you can't just

29:10

say TMTM? No, I've

29:12

learned from our lawyer and lawyer

29:14

team and legal guys that

29:16

that's not actually anything. Hey,

29:20

do you wanna know what our friends at home are talking about?

29:23

Hannah says, my small wonder is my hiking boots.

29:25

They have been keeping my feet warm and dry

29:28

through all the snow, sleet, slush, and rain we've been having. We

29:30

have not been having, we had a fucking lot

29:32

of rain over the last week. No snow. I

29:35

know. A bummer, but I

29:37

do love, I do have a pair of

29:39

heavy, like

29:42

winterized boots that I

29:45

always feel fucking great when I wear. I

29:47

wear my rain boots yesterday. And

29:53

it was really exciting because when you purchase something

29:55

like that, you know that you're only gonna be

29:57

wearing them like maybe 12, 14 days a week.

30:00

out of the year, at least if you live in a

30:02

place like this, it's like, oh, this is one of those

30:04

times. Yeah. I will say when I wear them,

30:06

I have to sort of like reacclimate

30:09

when I drive so that I

30:12

don't just like slam the pedal down

30:14

with my incredibly heavy, powerful and impervious

30:16

boots. This one was

30:18

sent in by, I think I'm supposed to come up with a clever

30:20

name or something, who says, my wonderful thing

30:22

this week is the sound of a flute. I

30:24

work as a machinist at a company that makes

30:26

flutes. And every now and then I can hear snippets

30:29

of flutes being tested while I'm on break. It makes

30:31

my job feel whimsical. Wow. What

30:33

a fucking job, man. What a job

30:35

to make flutes, but also just like be

30:37

working and just feel like, that feels like

30:40

a video you would watch on Mr. Rogers. Like

30:42

we went to a flute factory and then you

30:44

just watch in awe. Yeah, I can

30:47

hear Mark Summers saying, we

30:49

all love flutes, but how

30:51

do these sweet silver tunnels of

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sound get made? Join

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31:37

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31:39

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31:42

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31:44

I'm stoked about. Every time

31:47

I see a piece of Macquarie merch, I

31:49

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31:51

it weird if I wear that? But

31:54

this Three Brothers Wolf thing. I

31:57

think that specifically. I probably couldn't.

32:00

probably couldn't wear a shirt with you. This is my

32:02

husband and his brother's on a shirt. You

32:05

could wear it just not where I am

32:07

with you all the time. Yeah, that's true.

32:11

Wait, is that? Is he on your shirt? You see

32:13

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32:20

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