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Hi, this is Rachel

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McElroy. Hi,

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this is Griffin McElroy. And this

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is Wonderful. Welcome to another episode of Wonderful

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Nights. Hot,

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not, not city.

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The crime won't stop. Only

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two heroes are brave enough

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to get out there. This

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is the theme song to Wonderful Nights. And

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when we say get out there, we mean

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sit right here. Yeah, we're not going to

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stop. And say things we like. I

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was thinking my idea

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of a nighttime show for adults

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is basically Batman. I just kind

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of realized. It's probably the first

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like super dark thing you watched. And when I say super dark,

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I mean like literally. It might still be the darkest.

0:59

Like I tried Breaking Bad, but it

1:02

was like I kept waiting for Batman

1:04

to show up. You know, like who's going to

1:06

save the day? I heard Breaking Bad and

1:08

I thought the next sort of couple syllables were

1:10

going to be to man, but I was disappointed

1:12

to find out Batman wasn't in that show. This

1:15

is a show where we talk about things we like that's good that we're

1:17

into. And we are

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recording another evening show. We're trying to grab this

1:22

bull by the horns and wrestle it

1:24

back onto the tracks that the bull

1:26

runs on the bull tracks.

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Small wonders. I would love to do

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one of those. I

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got to see my gal pals and

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we stayed at a vacation

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rental. OK.

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And there were a lot

1:43

of mysteries to be solved. There were a

1:46

lot of well, not intentional, but like a

1:49

lot of family pictures, a lot

1:51

of pictures of people that seem to have no relation

1:53

to the family. Oh, you mean like mysteries

1:55

in the rental house. Yeah. It's

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what I'm talking about is specifically. when you rent

2:00

a home and they leave a lot

2:03

of personal items around, and then you

2:05

find yourself trying to piece together who

2:07

these people are and what

2:09

is important to them. I will never forget

2:11

walking into one rental place we did in

2:14

New Orleans. A

2:16

lot of nude. A lot of nude art, like a

2:18

lot of nude art. A lot of

2:20

nude art. No non nude art in that way.

2:23

Which is like, you know, it was

2:25

tasteful, lovely. It was small, sometimes it

2:27

was big. Sometimes one of them was

2:29

really, really, it's tasteful, it's

2:31

art. I'm not here to shame anyone.

2:33

It was huge nudity. It

2:36

was huge. Huge nudity.

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Yeah. What's your

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small wonder? I keep thinking about

2:42

the circle because it's what we were just watching

2:45

right before we came up here before. Before

2:47

we remembered. Remember, we were gonna record our

2:49

podcast tonight. But

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I talked about that last week. I

2:54

got one, white boards. Can't get enough of

2:56

these guys. I

2:58

got a new one on my desk that's little, but

3:01

it's also like a little desk organized. Okay, so okay.

3:03

Let me ask you a question. You also

3:06

have a white board on your wall. I have a big

3:08

white board with tiny little white board panels. That's

3:10

more sort of like big picture stuff, or at least

3:12

it was for a while, but it's on the wall.

3:14

This is on my desk. It's at arm's reach at

3:17

all times. You know what I mean? So I can

3:19

write my day's goals on there, like lift bro. I

3:21

do see lift bro on there, which is pretty great.

3:23

Yeah, and do you see the green check mark on

3:25

there? And do you see these

3:27

fucking gay on here? I

3:31

just like white boards. It's like the best surface

3:33

I think to take notes on. I

3:37

love the dang thing. If y'all could

3:39

see, it's approximately four feet from

3:41

his desk white board to his wall white board.

3:43

Yeah, but this one has a cute little cubby

3:45

for sure. It does have a cubby. I do

3:47

like it. I mean, I can see myself. Sounds

3:50

like you hate it. Here's the thing. I

3:52

work on site three days a week now

3:54

at my new job, and

3:57

I have no white board, and

3:59

I'm really drunk. onto this desk one for that

4:01

purpose because I don't have

4:03

one anywhere else right okay

4:06

another snide remark about my I got

4:08

you the wall white board and I

4:10

just wish you liked it enough to

4:12

use it. It's

4:14

so far away. Just watch this. Oh

4:19

yeah no you can't you can't

4:21

there's no way. This

4:23

is why I'm bringing white boards to my small wonder segment I

4:25

love them so much that I have two of the dang things

4:27

and I don't even care. Okay

4:30

can I do my big my big wonder. You

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already know what it is because when we walk I did it was up

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on your screen. Photos of

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this topic all just paper in my computer

4:39

monitor there's a lot of a lot of

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huge a lot of huge a lot of

4:44

huge on that one. I'm

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going to talk to you about two special men

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in my life that

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you know very well Wario and Waluigi is

4:53

who I'm going to be discussing today. I

4:56

didn't see I just saw Waluigi Wario is a

4:58

surprise for me. Yeah Wario is usually a surprise

5:00

for people how much they like care about him

5:02

really when they think about it. These

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guys are inspiration to me these these are

5:07

two these are two icons in

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in my book and I've played them all good guys

5:11

I played a lot of video games so when I

5:13

say. Wario and Waluigi are

5:15

icons I feel like that should

5:17

carry some some weight. Can

5:20

we go over how we know that they're evil.

5:23

That's a great start so I recall

5:26

both Mario and Luigi proper have

5:28

mustaches right that's true that's true and

5:30

then these guys have mustaches but they seem

5:32

more evil they're jagged you know sort of.

5:36

Well I don't know if Nylee whiplashes who

5:38

is the who is the bad guy

5:40

for Boris from Rocky and ball winkle

5:42

can I sort of sharp angled and

5:45

I guess they're more exaggerated and that I

5:47

feel like Waluigi is taller and thinner and.

5:51

Wario is bigger

5:53

and broader this is this is not a

5:55

joke this conversation right now that we are

5:57

having is what I find so. I'm

6:00

endlessly fascinated about the two men

6:02

Wario and Wale. If

6:04

you've never played like a Mario game,

6:07

then it's possible that this segment might be lost

6:09

on you. But I do think that there's something

6:12

sort of fundamentally kind of creatively interesting about them.

6:14

So I've only played a game with

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them, I think, in

6:19

the perhaps Mario Kart

6:21

and Smash Brothers settings. Waluigi's

6:24

not even playable in Smash Brothers. Okay, he

6:26

pops up here and there. Are they in

6:28

the like regular platform kind of game? So

6:30

this is what's very interesting. So the first

6:33

one to show up was Wario. Wario

6:35

was first introduced in

6:37

a Game Boy game released in 1992. It

6:40

was called Super Mario Land 2 6

6:42

Golden Coins. It was the follow up to Super Mario Land.

6:45

Was this color? No, this was before color. This was 1992. How

6:48

could you tell the difference? His big exaggerated

6:50

sort of features. You just had a couple extra

6:52

pixels? Well, in a big, big nose

6:54

and a big sharp mustache. And

6:57

the W on his hat. They were

6:59

just so little, as I recall, on the Game Boy, it seems

7:01

like it would be hard to distinguish. Well,

7:03

the sprites in Super Mario Land 2 were a

7:05

bit larger, which, you know, the game runs a

7:08

little bit slow as a result. It's not my

7:10

favorite, but it's important because it's where Wario came

7:12

in. That game was kind of

7:14

rad. It was like weird and it gave Mario all kinds

7:16

of, there's like a carrot power up that turned you into

7:18

a bunny. Like stuff that never really

7:20

came back. But it also

7:23

introduced Wario, who is Mario seen through sort

7:25

of a scanner darkly. He

7:27

is depicted as a greedy

7:30

treasure hunter and frequent nemesis to

7:32

Mario. Once we did get some

7:34

color on that bad boy, he's got purple and

7:36

yellow overalls and a hat with the first letter of

7:39

his name on it. Now, despite

7:41

the fact that what I've just described

7:43

also does sound like Mario and Luigi,

7:46

Wario is not related to either Mario

7:48

and Luigi. He is sort of portrayed

7:50

as a childhood acquaintance

7:53

of Mario who has

7:55

broken bad. They're not related? They're not,

7:57

they are not related. Here's what's especially. This

8:01

is what is especially fucked up. It

8:03

has also been confirmed that Wario

8:06

is not related to Waluigi. So

8:08

like, what the fuck are we doing here? You

8:10

know what I mean? Yeah, typically-

8:13

Like, transitive property, Wario

8:16

is to Mario is to Luigi is

8:18

to Waluigi, then Wario and Waluigi should

8:20

be brothers. It's like, let's say there's

8:22

a guy at school that everybody likes

8:24

and his name is Steven. Yeah. And

8:28

then there's another guy, Tolian

8:30

related, who nobody likes and

8:32

his name is Wasp Steven. Yeah, exactly.

8:36

Wasp Steven. And

8:38

no- They look

8:40

really fucking- they do look pretty

8:42

similar, aside from some very subtle-

8:44

I thought it was like a

8:47

Pizarro universe thing, where they had

8:49

like escaped into the Mario-Luigi realm

8:52

and were undoing all the right- No. This

8:55

is just a bad Mario. I basically made

8:57

it like an evil, leaper, clannable thing. You

8:59

did, and that's where your sort of creative

9:01

journey usually takes you. So

9:04

Wario's name is technically

9:06

a portmanteau of Mario

9:08

and a Japanese word, Warugi,

9:10

which means bad. Oh. So

9:13

he literally just like- he literally is bad

9:15

Mario. Okay, so Steven and

9:17

bad Steven. Basically is what we're talking

9:19

about. Now, you may be thinking, if you

9:22

can separate yourself from your objective love of

9:24

these two men, isn't it

9:26

maybe a little bit lazy to

9:28

make an antagonist for a game

9:30

who is just bad hero's

9:33

name here? Yeah. In

9:36

researching this, I found a few sources that

9:38

claimed like that's kind of intentional for

9:40

Wario. So Super Mario Land 2

9:42

was designed for the Game Boy by

9:45

a studio within Nintendo called Research and Development

9:47

1, R&D 1. Apparently,

9:50

they weren't that stoked about making

9:52

this game. Like making a

9:54

game took forever. It was really, really, really hard. It

9:56

still absolutely is. But especially back in the Game Boy

9:58

era, like it was really, really hard. really hard to make

10:00

these games. Were these just draft names that they kept?

10:03

What? Mario and Waluigi? Like they just made

10:05

it like, all right, we'll rename this later. Let's just

10:07

make sure that we remember it's bad Mario.

10:09

No, I mean, basically what

10:11

I'm getting at is like, Mario was

10:14

the domain of this other part of

10:16

Nintendo called the Nintendo Entertainment Analysis and

10:18

Development sort of division, set it up

10:20

by Shigeru Miyamoto who came up with

10:22

Mario and Yeah, I've heard of him.

10:25

So like, this wasn't R&D 1's

10:27

baby. They didn't want to really make Super Mario

10:29

Land 2. They made a bunch of other Game

10:31

Boy games that didn't like, a

10:33

lot of them didn't set the world on fire, but

10:35

they just wanted to do their own thing. They didn't

10:37

necessarily want to be shackled with Mario. So when it

10:40

came time for them to come up with the villain

10:43

for this game, they just kind

10:45

of came up with Wario, rough

10:47

draft, first draft, best draft, and

10:49

went with it. Uh,

10:51

the added bonus there is that the W

10:54

from Wario looks like an M upside

10:56

down. It kind of works, but it

10:58

doesn't reflect a lot, a tremendous amount

11:00

of kind of like Well, and that's what

11:02

I was suggesting when I said that earlier, that they

11:04

just were like, all right, let's just give them these

11:07

things for now. Maybe we'll come up with something better

11:09

later. And then they just didn't. I think that's kind

11:11

of cool that they were

11:14

maybe being a little bit misanthropic on a

11:16

scale that is kind of like enormous to

11:18

think about, which is like a Nintendo first

11:20

party video game, which is extremely

11:22

like protected and manicured. And like, there is no

11:24

company on earth that like takes care of their

11:26

kid. Maybe aside from maybe Disney as much as

11:29

this. And yeah, the studio was like, yeah, you're

11:31

going to love the bad guy for this one.

11:33

His name is Bad Mario. He's a lot

11:36

like Mario, if I'm being completely honest.

11:38

Now, just an aside. Yeah.

11:41

Sonic. Yes. Bad

11:44

Sonic is Shadow,

11:46

but Shadow was a creation or

11:49

made bad by Robotnik. I

11:52

mean, we're getting into a whole nature versus nurture debate.

11:54

That frankly makes me uncomfortable to have on the air.

11:59

I know. for as

12:01

apparently encyclopedic as my knowledge of the Mario

12:03

world is I don't really know much about

12:05

mr. the Hedgehog oh I

12:08

thought maybe I played a lot of those

12:10

games but it is maybe Henry had brought

12:12

you into the fold the way that I

12:14

think that most folks think about it is

12:16

shadow is just cooler Sonic not necessarily even

12:18

there was maybe one game where this dude

12:21

broke bad he was maybe Sonic Adventure 2

12:23

shit maybe I do know a lot about

12:25

Sonic the Hedgehog but then after that they

12:27

were like actually people love this evil Sonic

12:29

what if we just made him cool

12:31

antihero Sonic yeah it's always robotic

12:33

unless even he turns a good

12:35

you know has a face turn

12:37

from time to time okay anyway

12:40

not the same thing not the

12:42

curious yeah so anyway Wario

12:46

kind of pooped out there into the world

12:48

but oops he's a slam dunk people with

12:51

bananas for this fucking dude so

12:54

he was the protagonist of Super Mario

12:56

Land 3 which is called Wario Land

12:58

which like well not the

13:00

whole they haven't made a ton of them but

13:02

a sub series of Wario based RPGs called warrior

13:04

thing does he have like different powers so

13:07

right Mario is more about jumping and

13:09

running and the fire flower and all

13:11

that jazz Wario in general is a

13:13

lot bulkier and so like his games

13:15

his platformers feel that way a little

13:18

bit he's more about charging and tackling

13:20

and like squishing things and okay kicking

13:22

things a little closer to Donkey Kong

13:25

Donkey Kong would say is on the yes on

13:27

the other end of the spectrum where he he

13:29

liked he likes to jump and pound and go

13:31

fucking completely crazy oh okay all right so

13:34

he also has another sub series of games

13:36

called Wario where mega micro game so if

13:38

you've probably seen us play they made one on

13:40

switch recently it's like a bunch of like three

13:43

second long mini games that you have to play

13:45

like a lot of and super quick yeah yeah

13:47

I love these games like these are really great

13:49

so like Wario from like being this thing that was just

13:51

kind of put out there by

13:53

obligation has turned into a pretty

13:56

big Wario's woods with another fucking

13:58

like completely standalone puzzle game So

14:00

like Wario took off. Waluigi though. Waluigi's

14:04

star has never risen, like

14:06

remotely as high as Wario.

14:08

He was first introduced in

14:10

Mario Tennis with no fanfare.

14:13

Just literally no fan—like, it's not like, I think

14:15

this was the Nintendo 64 game. It's

14:18

not like there was like an 80-hour long

14:20

RPG campaign to teach you. It's just

14:22

like, and also there's a bad Luigi

14:24

now. Like, that is how he

14:26

got his due. You said it was in what

14:28

game? Mario Tennis. Oh, oh,

14:30

well because Mario and Wario

14:32

are a set and

14:34

it's tennis. You need a doubles

14:37

partner for looking thick and with Yoshi? No.

14:40

Not when there's Wario.

14:42

You know that Wario and Mario don't team up, right? You're

14:45

saying Wario needs a teammate. I get

14:48

what you're saying, but this is all to

14:50

say that Super Mario Land 2, you at

14:52

least get some details about the bad man

14:54

Wario. He loves to steal treasure, especially six

14:56

golden coins. I mean, this speaks to

14:58

a larger issue of how Luigi has always

15:01

played second fiddle to Mario. You

15:03

say that, but Luigi has had

15:05

several standalone projects, including Luigi's Mansion.

15:07

Well, maybe Waluigi just isn't there yet. Maybe we

15:09

have to wait a few years. Yeah.

15:12

Maybe in the future, future

15:15

space people will be listening to this podcast and they'll say,

15:17

oh, this must have been back before. They'll

15:19

look at their friend and be like, glibble glabble glib,

15:21

which means, did you know there's a bad Luigi too?

15:24

No, I'm saying before Waluigi had his own game

15:26

in the future. Oh, I see. This is what

15:28

I'm saying, right? It took a while for Wario

15:30

to show up. Maybe as Luigi

15:32

rises, Will Waluigi- So

15:36

too, so Waluigi rises, so Waluigi's- 2027,

15:39

I'm just saying Waluigi's Paradise.

15:41

Yeah. Oh, that's a good fucking name,

15:44

baby. Come to you on- Waluigi's Paradise

15:46

would be so fucking good. On the

15:48

Swooch. On the Swooch, which is

15:50

what they call the second Swooch. God,

15:52

Rachel, that is so good. It's like I

15:55

went back to the future and I pulled up an

15:57

Almanac except it's an Almanac for the names of future

15:59

games. One

16:02

fun fact for you, Waluigi has

16:04

appeared in over 50 video games,

16:06

but never ever in any kind

16:08

of featured role whatsoever. No spinoff

16:10

series, he's not even an official

16:12

playable character in Smash. There's so

16:14

much disrespect there. But I think

16:17

it is wild that Nintendo, who's

16:20

so protective of its shit, has this

16:22

character that has been in 50 games,

16:24

and he's got any kind of development

16:26

whatsoever. And so with

16:28

that character, the internet has done what it

16:30

sort of does best, which is project their

16:32

shit onto Waluigi. And so he's just this

16:35

slab of marble that everybody can see themselves

16:37

within if they look hard now. Is that

16:39

what's happening? That's what I think is

16:41

happening. You look at Waluigi, you're like, I don't know

16:43

nothing about Waluigi. I bet

16:45

he's a lot like me. That's why

16:47

he's like the sensitive choice. You know what I mean?

16:51

I think a lot of people, you can tell a lot

16:53

about a person asking if they're a Wario or a Waluigi.

16:55

I don't know. I don't know the answer

16:57

to that. I would lean Wario actually for

16:59

me. Yeah, I mean, you seem like more of

17:01

a Wario to me. What the fuck is that? No,

17:05

I do appreciate that. I do think I

17:07

have strong. I'm a Wario rising. Uh-huh. Uh,

17:12

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they're seeing the Holy Spirit they

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will still as an adult Let's

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say wow. Look at that one.

22:10

Okay. Okay lightning bugs. I'm talking

22:12

about clouds Dude,

22:14

we haven't talked about clouds. Can

22:16

you believe that's fucked up that we

22:19

haven't talked about clouds. I Love

22:21

clouds so much. I know Always

22:23

comment on a good cloud. I know always

22:25

always always One part of the sky is

22:28

a different color than the other part of the sky You'll

22:30

be the first one to know because I've noticed it because

22:32

I'm always looking for that shit Okay,

22:35

let's start out with

22:37

like Basic cloud stuff.

22:39

Yeah, okay Clouds

22:42

are a visible mass of particles of

22:44

condensed vapor So crazy such as water

22:47

I suspended in the atmosphere of a

22:49

planet such as Earth or moon. So

22:51

cool Here's the thing that I didn't

22:54

know so it's not just water. Yeah

22:57

Water has to attach to

22:59

something in order to condense and

23:01

these objects are called cloud condensation

23:05

nuclei Cloud condensation

23:07

nuclei can be various things from

23:09

wildfire smoke to ocean spray to

23:11

dirt but the

23:13

key is they must be very small about one

23:15

micron, which is 1,000th

23:17

of a millimeter in size and And

23:22

Able to attract water. Okay, so is that why

23:24

when an airplane go through a cloud it shakes

23:26

so much because you're hitting a lot of little

23:28

dirts Think about think on that a

23:32

little dirt sink on that Water

23:35

needs a surface to turn from

23:37

vapor to liquid and Aerosols

23:40

such as dandruff pollen algae

23:43

fur and bacteria are particularly

23:45

good at absorbing moisture in

23:47

the air. Perfect So there's a lot of people

23:49

probably grossed out by that fact. I think it's

23:51

great. Take my take my dead-ask I'm not using

23:53

it anymore trying to do something beautiful in the

23:56

sky This makes me wonder and I

23:58

didn't research this as there are more

24:00

people and things in this earth.

24:03

Are there more clouds than there used to be? Probably more clouds

24:05

than there used to be. I

24:07

have no way of knowing. We may have just said,

24:09

babe, we may have just said the wrongest

24:11

thing we've ever said. You realize that? We may have just

24:13

said the wrongest thing we've ever said on this show. So

24:15

it's gonna stop us. I

24:18

can think of several people that I

24:20

know that listen to the show that

24:22

would stop us, I think. Okay, I

24:24

bet you can name types of clouds.

24:26

Nimbus, cumulonimbus, cirrus, strato-saurus,

24:30

no, that's not one, is it? You're kind of,

24:32

you're doing variants of the big ones.

24:35

Okay. So cumulus is one. Cumulus, did

24:37

I say that? I

24:40

said nimbus. Yeah, nimbus is also one.

24:42

Okay, and then cumulonimbus. That's

24:45

like a variant. Okay. Stratus.

24:49

Stratus. And cirrus. Cirrus, okay. I kinda

24:51

got some of them a little bit.

24:54

I find the older I get, the more

24:56

that that kind of reflects what my grasp

24:59

of my grade school education is, is

25:01

like, I can remember three

25:03

of the four syllables of that word. Yeah.

25:06

Is that anything? It's like you reach in a bag labeled third

25:08

grade and just pull out all the words you

25:10

can. But it's just scraps, so I'm like taping

25:12

it together like a hostage letter. Okay,

25:15

so those cirrus clouds, those

25:18

are the ones that are way up there. Yeah,

25:20

they're high level clouds and they're made largely

25:22

of ice. Yeah. Strong

25:26

winds are likely to shred these clouds

25:28

apart, which gives them their iconic wispy

25:30

appearance. Yeah. Mid-level

25:33

clouds, these

25:35

are like the, called

25:38

alto cumulus, alto stratus,

25:40

nimbus stratus. These are the

25:42

white or gray, like patchy

25:45

sheets of clouds. Okay. Like

25:48

the blankety clouds. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I

25:51

like those. I prefer them from above. Like

25:55

in a plane. Like in a plane. When you're in a plane

25:57

and it's like, wow, it's just all clouds up there. Let's kick out. Then

26:01

the low level clouds, these are your big boys. This

26:05

is your cumulus, your cumulonimbus,

26:07

your stratocumulus, and your stratus.

26:11

Cumulus is of course the quintessential white puffy

26:13

cloud. Classic, a classic.

26:16

Nothing wrong with that. The average

26:18

cumulus cloud weighs roughly

26:20

1.1 million pounds. No

26:25

it doesn't. Yeah bro. It

26:27

simply doesn't. It's, hey

26:29

babe, it simply doesn't. It's

26:31

a cloud. I'm not saying

26:33

that you don't have your facts straight. I'm

26:36

sure that you went to a reputable source on

26:38

this information. But there's a

26:40

cloud and it's way up there for a

26:42

long time. The

26:44

idea that it could weigh that much, no. It's

26:50

simply not for me. What's it

26:52

doing up there then I guess is my next

26:54

question. It's

26:57

not weighing as much as it does. How is it, what's

26:59

it doing up there? That's so

27:01

heavy. You're

27:04

looking at it too. Have I shaken your confidence

27:06

in this fact because 1.1 million pounds, it's

27:09

pretty heavy. I don't know how this bad

27:11

boy stays up there. Is

27:14

this like if we condensed it down into

27:16

like a little glass and it turned back

27:18

into dirt and slurry, it would weigh 1.1

27:20

million pounds or are we counting like sort

27:22

of the pressure, some sort of

27:24

– is this a pressure situation? Okay let me

27:26

talk about this now. I found a resource. We

27:29

found a big ass cloud. You'll never believe how

27:32

much it weighs. For one thing, the weight is

27:34

spread out into millions of droplets over a really

27:36

big space. Some of the droplets are so small

27:38

that you would need a million of them to

27:40

make a single raindrop. Okay, great.

27:43

I understand this so far. That's

27:48

kind of the whole thing. I mean

27:50

look at a cloud, right? It's pretty big.

27:52

I don't know how you define where a

27:54

cloud stops. Another one starts but like

27:57

big, big cloud. I

28:00

just the thought of anything weighing 1.1 million

28:02

clouds And

28:05

being like I'm just gonna float now endlessly Okay,

28:09

there are also other types of clouds,

28:11

but they're special cases these include Ranticular

28:14

clouds which are the ones that look

28:16

like UFOs over mountains. Yeah, how could

28:18

fucking convenient? Okay

28:22

government I Can

28:27

trails is another one which are condensation trail

28:29

for do this class Okay,

28:32

hon trails. I am waiting for the day

28:34

one of us is brave enough to bring

28:37

that it's the same It's

28:40

gonna be you it's not I remember

28:43

hearing one of my friends friends talk about that

28:45

on like a porch stoop in Chicago and just

28:47

being like I gotta get the fuck out of

28:49

here Clouds

28:54

are not exclusive to earth All

28:57

planets except Mercury have clouds. Yeah

29:00

From what I understand are just clouds this

29:03

one big gas giant cloud in the sky

29:05

I think that's what that means what makes

29:07

Earth's clouds tuned out is they're made most

29:09

entirely of water Whereas the clouds from other

29:12

planets typically comprise various gases. Okay,

29:14

they that's cool on

29:16

Jupiter For instance the clouds are

29:18

primarily made of ammonia ice and

29:21

ammonium hydro sulfide Where Venus

29:23

clouds are made of sulfuric acid? I

29:25

don't want to be in either of those places Okay,

29:30

just sounds rough. Yeah. No, I don't

29:32

think I don't think we will be I mean again

29:34

I Can't predict everything

29:36

just true just things and the future these

29:38

things will be true While

29:41

we do have his own video game while we

29:43

use paradise and we will not travel to Jupiter

29:45

or Venus One

29:47

other thing the word cloud comes from

29:49

the old English words Clud

29:52

or Claude mean lump of

29:54

land or lump of rock which in

29:56

the 13th century Was extended

29:58

to apply little lumps of water in

30:00

the sky. I feel like

30:02

every old English word refers to a

30:04

lump of something. It's a lump of

30:07

person or a lump of cat. A

30:09

lump of cat. Yeah, absolutely. I

30:11

will just say because clouds are made

30:13

up of tiny water droplets, they fall

30:15

very slowly and a small updraft is

30:17

enough to keep them up. So that's

30:19

another reason for your like heavy thing.

30:22

Yeah. Like they're so tiny and

30:24

they're always moving like a cloud will sometimes look

30:26

like it is. I believe it now. Hanging out,

30:28

but it is. That fact just caught me

30:30

so by surprise. I know. It

30:33

scared me a little bit if I'm being

30:35

honest. I don't like thinking of them. Now

30:37

whenever I'm on a plane and I see

30:39

us going towards a cloud, my head is

30:41

immediately going to go, well, here we go

30:43

into that 1.1 million pound object that is

30:45

floating in the sky. But I

30:47

guess that's all okay. Yeah,

30:50

I mean it's not going to come to earth. Is that what you're worried

30:52

about? That a cloud will come down? I'm worried one

30:54

day the cloud will come down. Like a

30:56

day puff marshmallow and squish me pretty bad.

30:58

Yeah. Say 1.1 million pounds would auto auto

31:00

do it. Um, but

31:02

I do like what's your favorite favorite cloud?

31:05

I mean, gotta

31:07

go the big boy, right? Yeah. The

31:10

cumulonimbus. I mean, I'm a cumulonimbus. Those

31:12

big thunder head ones that like kind

31:15

of like roar up. Yeah. Those are

31:17

cool too. Yeah,

31:23

my favorite cloud is probably the one

31:25

when favorite cloud in

31:28

cinema. My favorite cloud in

31:30

cinema. That's a good question. Twister probably

31:32

had some. Twister probably had some kick

31:34

ass clouds. Yeah. I bet

31:36

you there's a lot of supporting players in

31:38

that film. A lot of Blizzard of Oz

31:40

probably had some good clouds. Yeah. But

31:44

I think Mufasa. I think Mufasa.

31:46

Maybe the best. Soundly. Yeah. Um,

31:49

hey, thank you so much for

31:51

listening to our show. I bet you'd like to

31:53

hear some audience submissions, wouldn't you? I

31:55

have prepared them. Katie says my

31:58

small wonder is dogs carrying things. in

32:00

their mouths. I've always found this particularly adorable and

32:02

now I have a dog of my own who

32:04

loves to carry things. I especially love how they

32:06

get extra jaunty and prancy and show off whatever

32:09

they have. I saw this today.

32:11

Just a big old dog carrying a stick

32:13

around. Yeah. Just like a

32:15

comfort stick. I love it. Katie sent

32:17

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32:19

with a stick in its mouth and it

32:21

looked just so proud. So

32:24

regal. Sarah says, my wonderful thing this week

32:26

is how exceptionally proud it makes me when

32:28

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32:30

show, identify them from another show, then confirm

32:32

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32:34

rush. This is the best feeling in the

32:36

fucking world. Yeah. Griffin is all about this.

32:38

I do love doing this a lot. I

32:40

am not so good with this. You

32:43

aren't. No. I know

32:46

you tried to and fail kind of way,

32:48

but more in like you don't give a

32:50

shit about it. A lot

32:52

of times Griffin will say

32:54

things like, oh, that's Keith David. Yes.

32:57

And every single time I have to be like, wait, now,

33:00

who is that? And what was he in? In the case

33:02

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33:04

not because he's a write off actor. He's

33:06

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33:09

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33:11

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Gatsby, a book I haven't read

34:04

at this live show. Is this gonna

34:07

be a theme for you? It seems like

34:09

it feels like it. Where you continue to

34:11

choose old works that you

34:13

have not read. Yeah, last

34:15

time, weirdly, I

34:18

got a lot of stuff right about Moby Dick when we

34:20

did the Moby Dick live show. I

34:23

feel like maybe needs book signs. Have

34:26

you considered Beowulf? Beowulf.

34:29

That one, I literally don't

34:31

know fucking anything. Literally nothing, like

34:33

I'm trying to think of it. They made a CG

34:36

one, I remember, but I don't

34:38

think it was very good. I don't

34:40

know anything about Beowulf. Was he a man

34:42

with a wolf head who like, I don't know, got

34:45

banished from some kingdom by

34:47

his evil mother and

34:50

then has to come back and use this wolf head? I mean,

34:52

you're not that far off. See, this is what I'm saying, like

34:54

these literary classics, I don't

34:56

think are that, they must not be that great

34:58

if I can just kind of like jazz on

35:00

them. Yeah, you know what I mean? Anyway, you

35:02

know. Or they're so influential that they have

35:04

penetrated your consciousness. Does Beowulf have a wolf

35:07

head though? Or is that

35:09

part of my thinking of something else? I

35:11

don't think he has a wolf head. But

35:14

again, I haven't read this in 25 years. Yeah,

35:17

that's true. You know. I don't think

35:19

I've ever read it because

35:21

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