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Wonderful! 329: I Would Win the Turing Test

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Wonderful! 329: I Would Win the Turing Test

Wednesday, 19th June 2024
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0:00

["The Dog

0:02

Days of Summer"]

0:17

Hi, this is Rachel McElroy. Hello, this

0:19

is Griffin McElroy. And this is Wonderful. Thanks

0:21

for listening to Wonderful. It's a show where we

0:23

talk about things we like that's good that we're

0:25

into. It is the dog

0:27

days of summer. And

0:30

I don't know about you, but I'm feeling my

0:32

summer vibe. So right.

0:35

I don't actually even know if it's officially summer

0:37

yet. It's officially summer. Okay. It's

0:39

so hot outside. The beaches are

0:41

bumping. How hot is it? Like

0:43

84 degrees. It's not

0:46

actually that bad. But the beaches

0:48

are bumping. The babes are going

0:50

to the beach. And all the

0:52

bros are playing volleyball

0:54

on the beach also. We

0:57

got suds and buds by

0:59

the poolside with big watermelon.

1:01

Sometimes I worry that you're AI. You're

1:06

not, right? You'd have to tell me if you were. I

1:08

watched this video just before we started recording. And

1:11

it's this game that somebody built. It's my small

1:13

wonder. And

1:15

it's like a Turing test in reverse

1:17

where and it's in VR.

1:19

And so it's four AIs, different AIs

1:21

sitting on a train and this one

1:24

guy who's a human. And they're impersonating

1:26

different historical figures. And all the AIs

1:28

have to guess who the human is.

1:30

I think I would beat ass at

1:32

this game. I think I

1:35

would absolutely smoke those fucking robots. Where is

1:37

this game? It's like this one dude made it.

1:39

It's not a thing that people can play. But how do

1:41

you enjoy the game? You

1:44

watch a guy play it on YouTube.

1:46

Okay. Yeah. I don't think it's available

1:48

for everyone. But it was like Aristotle

1:51

and Cleopatra. And he was Genghis Khan. And the

1:53

second he opened his mouth, it was like, that's

1:55

a human right there. Wow. Look at you. Well,

1:58

it was from his perspective. so it wasn't

2:00

that hard for me to tell, but all

2:02

the robots clocked him. Not me though. I

2:05

feel like, you know, a decade

2:07

of listening to Munch Squad press

2:09

releases has embodied within

2:11

me an ability to speak at

2:14

length without saying much of anything at

2:16

all. Yeah, it's true. What's your small

2:18

wonder? Is

2:22

it how the beaches are bumping and the babes are

2:24

going to the beach and the

2:26

bros are all playing volleyball? Surfing

2:29

the foam. That reminds me

2:31

of like the house that Jack built, like the way

2:33

that you're phrasing that. I don't know what that is. It's

2:37

like the cat

2:39

that swallowed the mouse, that swallowed the cheese,

2:41

that lived in the house that Jack built.

2:43

No, I don't know that one. Anyway, it was like the...

2:47

Is that your small wonder? The beach and... Is

2:49

this old ass nursery rhyme? No,

2:52

no, my small wonder, of course, is... We

2:58

got this like inflatable pool

3:00

bouncy thing last summer. H2O

3:04

Go is what it's called. I would recommend it to anybody with children.

3:07

It kicks ass. Yeah, I mean, it's one

3:09

of those things that you attach

3:11

a big fan to in order to keep it inflated. Yeah.

3:14

And it's definitely for small children. Yeah,

3:17

absolutely. Like Henry is already approaching the

3:19

like way too big age and size,

3:21

but it's got a little bouncy

3:23

platform, a little tiny slide, and

3:26

it's... A little sprayer. You just fill it with

3:28

water, yeah. And

3:31

whenever you buy those things and

3:33

then put them away for the

3:35

winter, fall, spring, you

3:38

worry that you're gonna unroll it and it's

3:40

going to be a monster. Yeah. Like

3:42

be a fuzzy, black, mold monster. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

3:44

But ours held up pretty well, and we've been

3:47

using it. I will say when I dragged

3:49

it from our storage container to the place

3:51

in the yard where we usually inflate it,

3:53

a little mouse came out. I saw a

3:55

little tiny mouse hop out and scamper off,

3:58

and it was gross. but

4:00

it was also like really cute because he was like

4:02

a little guy. I hope the other

4:04

stuff in the little storage thing is-

4:07

Oh, I didn't even think about that. Yeah, our crimist

4:09

tree is probably- Eating. All

4:11

at, by this one little irascible

4:13

mouse. Anyway,

4:16

it's coming real handy because

4:18

again, small sun, tremendous amount of

4:20

energy. Yeah. And it's

4:22

really saved our weekends, just

4:25

filling that thing up and having another

4:27

location to let him

4:29

bump around. It's so slick. I

4:31

go first this week. I'm going to talk about

4:33

something. It's not gonna be much of a surprise

4:35

to you. I've been talking about it all week

4:37

and I feel like you come to expect that

4:39

when I focus, when I fixate on a thing,

4:42

usually it's gonna be my thing for wonderful that week.

4:44

This week, I would like to talk about the

4:47

musical called Pippin. Oh,

4:49

okay. It's about Scotty Pippin and

4:52

his incredible career. Gotta be good.

4:54

It's unlikely. That would be good.

4:56

Why isn't there a whole musical about the 1996 Chicago

4:59

Bulls? There's just a sad like, I'm

5:02

Larry Bird. Yeah. I'm

5:04

Larry Bird. Why would he be sad? Do

5:07

you think Larry Bird was famously a sad man?

5:11

I mean, from what I understand, and

5:14

granted a lot of my knowledge is centered

5:16

around Michael Jordan. But as

5:18

I understand, he was a very good basketball

5:20

player that got largely overshadowed by

5:22

a lot of- Sure, but he also

5:24

talked mad shit. He was a

5:27

huge shit talker, Larry Bird was.

5:29

Yeah, absolutely. No, I'm talking about

5:31

Pippin the musical, which was

5:33

a groundbreaking

5:36

piece of theater for a young Griffin McElroy,

5:38

for reasons I'm going to discuss later. Pippin,

5:41

if you're not familiar, it is a fucking weird

5:43

show. It is about Pippin,

5:45

the son of King Charlemagne, who

5:48

was a real guy, but basically

5:50

everything about this is fictionalized. And

5:54

Pippin goes on sort of this lifelong

5:56

journey to find meaning

5:58

and purpose. in life through

6:01

a series of wrongheaded pursuits.

6:03

Basically, that's the synopsis of

6:06

the entire musical, is

6:08

him bouncing around between these different pursuits

6:11

that he thinks are going to make

6:13

him feel satisfied or

6:15

that he is living this exceptional life.

6:18

And spoiler alert, none of them really

6:21

pay out for him. This

6:23

journey is presented as

6:26

this constantly fourth wall breaking

6:30

production from a theater troupe,

6:33

led by a character called The Leading

6:35

Player, who is the other main lead

6:38

of the show. He or

6:40

she in the more

6:42

recent Broadway revival is just this

6:44

really charismatic, omniscient entity that is

6:46

there to help him along his

6:48

journey until all of a sudden

6:51

he becomes a terrifying,

6:53

very manipulative

6:56

figure towards the end of the

6:59

show. The music and

7:01

lyrics for Pippin were written by Steven

7:03

Schwartz, who also

7:05

did Godspell and Children of

7:07

Eden and Wicked, as

7:10

well as a shit ton of

7:12

music from a bunch of different Disney movies.

7:15

But when it arrived on Broadway,

7:17

it was directed by

7:20

Bob Fosse, who took the

7:22

book and the music and was like, what

7:25

if it was a million times hornier? And

7:27

so that is sort of the way that it

7:29

went. All of a sudden, this theater troupe that

7:31

serves as kind of the Greek

7:35

chorus sort of setting of the whole thing,

7:37

there's so much bumping and grinding in this

7:40

show. It's fucking outrageous. And a lot of

7:42

like the little reaching hand

7:44

twist that Bob Fosse, a

7:46

lot of Fosse, a lot of jazz hands

7:48

out to the side slow steps. My high

7:51

school put this on. This is what I was

7:53

telling Griffin. My

7:55

experience with it, I think I was maybe

7:57

a freshman in high school. and

8:00

this was the fall musical they put

8:02

on. And I remember sitting down being

8:04

like, okay, high school, there's

8:06

gonna be a love interest, there's

8:09

gonna be some buds singing

8:11

a song together. And

8:14

I was like, as the musical went on,

8:16

I just remember being like, wait, what, what?

8:18

This is, what? I remember the opening

8:20

song is called, We've Got Magic to

8:22

Do. And it's like the truth, setting

8:25

up what this show is going to be like, what you're about to

8:27

see. One of the lines in it is sex

8:30

presented pastorally. And sure enough, there's like

8:32

a thing in the first act where

8:34

Pippin's like, I'm just gonna get laid

8:36

a lot. Yeah. And see if

8:38

that is the thing that does it for me.

8:41

But ultimately, of course it doesn't. But yeah, it

8:43

gets wet and wild.

8:45

Very experimental watching it. Like

8:49

it almost feels like you need to

8:51

read like a little disclaimer at the

8:54

top. Right. Like, hey, like

8:56

put away your dad's musical. I

8:59

think that's what We've Got Magic to Do kind of does. So

9:02

Pippin is this sort of directionless college

9:04

grad at the beginning of the show.

9:07

And throughout the course of the musical, he dabbles in, he

9:10

goes to war and he has a

9:12

lot of sex and he leads

9:14

a revolution against his own father.

9:17

And he falls in love. And all of

9:19

these things that he's doing is trying to

9:21

live this extraordinary life that he believes, he

9:23

believes that he is owed. And

9:26

that makes him an incredibly, at

9:29

times, insufferable, self-centered,

9:32

idealistic character. And

9:35

that's really an interesting way to feel about the

9:38

protagonist of the show. It's like, man, this

9:40

guy fucking sucks kind of. But

9:43

you kind of very quickly learn what he's all

9:45

about. He's introduced with what is, I think probably

9:47

the musical's most famous song, which is Corner of

9:50

the Sky. Which is, here's a

9:52

little bit of that. River's

9:54

belong where they can ramble.

10:00

Eagles belong where they can

10:02

fly I've

10:06

got to be where my spirit

10:23

Every man has his daydreams every man has his goal

10:25

so, the main characteredge is the leading player who

10:31

played Ben Vereen in the original Broadway, Ron

10:33

He's f gleanMatrix the leading

10:35

player was played by Patina Miller in the 2013

10:38

revival which

10:44

is how the women are even more than a girl she

10:47

also played the witch in the 2022 revival of Into

10:49

the Woods which

10:52

I bet was really good and I think

10:54

that's what we're talking about right now as you

10:56

said Ben Vereen who of course played a very

10:58

similar role in Zubilee Zoo well,

11:00

I don't know if in Zubilee Zoo the way you're describing this

11:02

character like this charismatic like narrator

11:07

I mean that's Zubilee Zoo that's kind

11:10

of Zubilee Zoo eventually at

11:12

the end of the show you realize that

11:14

this whole story this whole production

11:16

right that is happening

11:18

around Pippin has been a means of

11:21

manipulating Pippin to literally

11:24

destroy himself climb in a

11:26

box and

11:28

immolate in order to

11:30

achieve one perfect moment of like artistic glory and

11:33

it is a genuinely

11:36

chilling moment where

11:38

you go like oh holy shit like

11:40

this whole thing this person who you thought is like

11:43

this guiding light to

11:45

Pippin has actually kind of been trying to

11:48

funnel it into the world and he's actually

11:50

kind of been trying to funnel him towards

11:52

this one terrible, terrible

11:54

moment well did you see the last episode

11:56

of Zubilee Zoo? Wow,

12:01

I spiked both our microphones with that laugh, baby.

12:03

That was a really good one. I'm

12:06

just saying, Bill the Beaver, it does

12:08

not end well for him. No, I guess not. The

12:12

music in the show just slaps ass.

12:14

I think Stephen Schwartz has

12:16

done incredible work, obviously, I

12:18

think this is his best stuff. There's

12:21

a song, my favorite song from the

12:23

show is right at the end of

12:25

act one, where Pippin has kind of

12:27

been manipulated into assassinating his dad, King

12:29

Charlemagne. At which point

12:31

like the company turns on its heels and

12:33

all of a sudden everybody's like so excited

12:35

that Charlemagne is dead and this new era

12:37

has arrived with Pippin as the

12:39

new King. And they sing a

12:41

song called Morning Glow that I'm gonna

12:43

play a bit of now. Morning

12:45

glow, fill the earth,

12:48

come and shine for all

12:51

your worth. We'll

12:53

be present at the

12:56

birth of all faith, looking

12:59

new. Morning

13:03

glow is long past due.

13:11

So I think this show

13:13

is unique and fantastic, but I'm also biased

13:16

because it was the

13:18

first piece of adult theater

13:21

I was ever exposed to because I was in

13:23

the show in 1997 when

13:26

Marshall University put it on. I was 10

13:28

years old. There's a character in the show

13:30

who is the son, his name's Theo, he's

13:32

the son of like the main love interest

13:34

that Pippin kind of in kindles this romance

13:37

with in act two. And

13:39

I got cast as Theo and I was the only

13:41

kid in the cast. Everybody else was college students, right?

13:44

And so like that was a major

13:46

escalation for me going from, I'd done

13:48

like quite a bit of like community

13:51

theater stuff at that point, but

13:53

it all had been in sort of the

13:55

like Rogers and Hammerstein sort of thing. And

13:59

so this was... It's not a show about

14:03

country bumpkin falls in love with another

14:05

country bumpkin, or princess falls in love

14:07

with prince, or country

14:10

bumpkin falls in love with sophisticated

14:12

woman from the city. Or any

14:14

mix of those different kinds of

14:17

ideas. This is a grown fucking

14:19

show, filled with grown

14:21

folks as the actors, right? And

14:24

it left this indelible impression on

14:26

me. Because not only was I

14:29

watching this show that really genuinely

14:31

blew my mind, blew me away,

14:34

I was getting this portal

14:36

into the future where I

14:38

was seeing these are grown

14:40

up theater kids, and

14:43

they're a fucking mess. And

14:46

I guess that's, it was great. I

14:48

genuinely, the cast was all super, super sweet

14:50

to me. The guy who

14:52

played Pippin was a guy named Jeremy who I thought

14:54

hung the moon. He was like the coolest and real,

14:57

real, just so nice to me and everybody was great

14:59

to me. And I came back

15:01

from that show like, what's

15:03

up? I was like, I had gone and done

15:05

a semester in Paris. Well,

15:08

in the theater. You see when the

15:10

grownups do it, I

15:12

just, I have a lot of very fond memories from that

15:14

show and I think that contributes to it. But

15:17

I honestly haven't thought about this show in a long time.

15:20

And then I just started listening to it

15:22

again this past week and it's just both

15:24

the original and the 2013 revival. It's

15:27

so good, it's so good. And it's,

15:29

I don't think one of the like

15:31

more well-known major musicals. And

15:34

so if you've never really gotten into

15:36

it, it's great. The

15:39

Jackson Five did a bunch of covers of

15:41

songs from the show, which are fantastic. So

15:45

that's Pippin, check it out. Can

15:48

I see you away? Yes.

15:50

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16:02

The problem is that it's expensive

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to do so. Ask

16:06

anyone who's ever done astronaut stuff in the

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18:30

right, can I tell you about my thing this week? I

18:32

would be so thrilled. It has

18:34

been ages since I have brought a musical

18:36

artist. And that is largely

18:38

because for me to get in touch

18:40

with current music, I have to do

18:42

some research. Right. So usually what

18:44

I'll do is I'll just look at like what

18:47

has come out recently. Do I happen to have

18:49

any context for this artist that like would give

18:51

me an advantage on like entry into their work?

18:53

That's all Rachel's all about is trying to... She's

18:56

always on her grind, in her grind set, and

18:58

she's always trying to get an advantage. What's my

19:00

angle here? This

19:03

one was easy though. Oh great. The

19:05

artist I am bringing this week is Brittany

19:08

Howard. Fantastic. And listeners

19:11

and me and you may

19:13

remember Brittany Howard from Alabama

19:15

Shakes. Yeah. Remember? Yeah,

19:18

sure. They're the one that

19:20

had that like super popular song called

19:22

Hold On, actually ended up winning

19:24

awards, I believe, although I didn't do a lot of

19:26

research on the Alabama Shakes. Oh yeah. But

19:31

Brittany Howard really kind of... I

19:33

mean, everybody in that band was

19:36

very talented, but she really stood

19:38

out. She's just a very powerful

19:40

voice in like this kind of

19:42

tremendous wisdom in like her performance.

19:46

So Alabama Shakes formed

19:48

in 2009 in Athens, Alabama. All

19:51

these members like met

19:53

each other in school. Athens, Alabama? Yeah.

19:56

I didn't know there's an Athens, Alabama. There is an Athens, Alabama. I

19:59

didn't know that either. I don't know anything about

20:01

Alabama if I'm being honest. Sorry, people who live

20:03

there. Actually, I've been to Birmingham, I think, once.

20:05

Anyway. Okay. So

20:08

their first album came out in 2012 called

20:10

Boys and Girls. They had

20:12

another album out in 2015 called Sound

20:14

and Color. They

20:17

opened for Jack White. They performed

20:20

at Bonnaroo and Lollapalooza. That

20:23

song I mentioned, Hold On, was dubbed the

20:25

best song of the year by Rolling Stone.

20:27

Hell yeah. So

20:29

yeah, and then just

20:31

nominated for tons of Grammy Awards,

20:33

huge, huge band. And then in

20:36

2018, they went on hiatus. Brittany

20:40

Howard, when she gives interviews, doesn't suggest

20:43

that they have broken up more that she

20:45

has decided to go solo. I don't think

20:47

bands break up anymore, unless they're Oasis.

20:51

I don't think bands, I think they always, I

20:53

think it's just always kind of leaving the options.

20:55

I mean, there are some things that end pretty

20:58

inhospitably, as I understand. Yeah, like Oasis.

21:02

Yeah, there has to be a more recent

21:05

example though. I feel like it has probably

21:07

happened since, you know. Oasis. The

21:10

90s or whatever. So her

21:12

first solo album was 2019's Jamie. And

21:17

the song that came from that, that

21:20

was very popular, was

21:23

Stay High. Did you listen to that

21:26

song? Yeah, oh dude, yeah, yeah. That one is

21:28

very, very good. You sent these to me earlier today, and

21:30

I was bumping them. Yeah, I wanna play

21:32

just a little bit of Stay High, because

21:36

it will give you kind of a nice introduction to Brittany Howard,

21:38

if you're not familiar. I

21:43

already feel like doing it

21:46

again. Like doing it

21:48

again. Cause

21:55

once you know, then you know, and

21:58

you don't wanna go. The

22:00

music video is fantastic. Yeah,

22:17

it's literally just Terry Crews coming from his

22:19

job at the factory lip syncing to the

22:21

song in a car. It's very, very straightforward

22:23

and simple. Yeah, apparently it was filmed

22:26

in Alabama. She cast

22:28

a lot of people that she knew from the

22:30

town she grew up in. That's so good. And

22:34

it really presents her. It's

22:36

not too much of a departure from Alabama

22:38

Shakes in that it's a soulful, almost feels

22:42

like from a different era kind of

22:44

piece of music. I

22:48

listened to that song and I was like, okay, I know

22:50

what vibe song, I know what kind

22:52

of music she makes, I've got her pegged. And

22:54

then you sent another song that was not

22:57

like that. And so her

22:59

new album is called What

23:01

Now? And

23:03

it came out in

23:06

2024, the title track, which is the one I

23:08

sent to you, came out in 2023

23:11

as a single. And

23:15

that is actually the same year that Rolling Stone named

23:17

her as one of the 250 greatest guitarists

23:19

of all time. Fuck yeah. But

23:22

I want to play a little bit of that song too. So

23:55

fucking fresh. The music video for this

23:57

one is like Blade. It's like they just.

24:00

They made Blade. Yeah, I also

24:02

sent Griffin a live performance because I was like this,

24:06

the presentation is so like futuristic,

24:08

but in a very specific time

24:10

period. It's future goth matrix Blade

24:12

sword fighting. Like I had to

24:14

watch the live performance just to

24:16

kind of get my bearings in

24:18

the like, I know this woman,

24:20

this is different from her. Her

24:22

voice is a little bit disguised

24:24

by the like, you know,

24:26

effects they put on it. But it was

24:29

funky as hell. I loved that

24:31

song. Yeah, so she has

24:35

this great story. So unsurprisingly, she's

24:37

very influenced by artists like Prince,

24:40

which you can hear a lot

24:43

in that song. And

24:46

she actually got to meet Prince in 2015 when

24:49

she was still with Alabama Shakes. And I read

24:51

this interview where she tells this great story. And

24:54

I'm just gonna read it verbatim. She's

24:57

talking about going with her band to

25:01

potentially play on stage with

25:03

Prince at Paisley Park. And

25:06

she said, we walk into Paisley Park, this

25:08

big warehouse, and they're showing the film Madagascar

25:11

projected on the walls. We're

25:14

like, hmm, okay. There were

25:16

also some rules, no meat, no cussing, no

25:18

video. It was all a little strange. We

25:20

did a sound check, then his assistant said

25:22

Prince would like to meet you. And

25:25

I said, come on y'all because I'm not going by myself.

25:27

There were 15 of us sitting in this little

25:30

studio, Prince is in there wearing all linen. We

25:32

all smoosh ourselves onto the couch and he was so

25:34

nice and really funny. And he said, I'd like to

25:36

play Gimme All Your Love with You tonight. So

25:39

later we're on stage playing our set and we

25:41

get to the song and Prince is not showing

25:43

up. And she

25:45

said, I'm like, did he change his mind? Are

25:47

we not doing a good job? We just kept

25:49

repeating the bridge. It's getting a little awkward. All

25:52

of a sudden this guy in a green crushed

25:54

velvet suit with an Afro sunglasses and a

25:56

green guitar jumps onto the stage from

25:58

below. And the stage. He's at least six

26:00

feet tall. She's

26:03

like, he's right there and just starts shredding. And

26:05

I'm looking at him in utter disbelief. The crowd's

26:07

going crazy. And then we were double soloing in

26:09

harmony. We go for like five minutes finished. She

26:12

kisses me on the cheek and he leaps into

26:14

the darkness. I never saw him again. She

26:19

says literally he just disappeared like a fairy

26:21

would. I just. Every

26:23

story about Prince is like that. Of

26:26

all things, I realize this is

26:28

such a like, even

26:31

in his time, such an unattainable

26:33

dream. I think people

26:35

who have Prince stories are

26:38

the luckiest people in the world.

26:40

I feel like having a Prince

26:43

story is the most powerful anecdote.

26:45

Because they're always like that. There's

26:47

always some like magical occurrence. Some magical

26:50

supernatural element to it. Yeah, but I

26:52

would really recommend checking out what

26:54

now there's all sorts of genres represented.

26:56

It's like soul, jazz, rock, R and

26:59

B. There's some house music

27:01

kind of present. She's doing

27:03

just tons of things. And

27:06

also Brittany Howard, as I was doing

27:08

research, Thelma the

27:10

Unicorn, which is a movie or show,

27:14

I'm not sure which, that just came out on Netflix about

27:17

a mini pony who longs to be a

27:20

star and her dream comes true when she

27:22

disguises herself as a unicorn. Brittany

27:24

Howard was just giving interviews about that last

27:26

month because she voices Thelma the Unicorn. Oh,

27:28

that's great. So yeah,

27:30

she's tremendously ambitious and

27:33

creative. And

27:35

every song she performs is a little bit

27:37

different. And it's

27:40

just, man, there's something for everyone. Yeah, I

27:42

love that. So yeah, I would really recommend,

27:45

it's just two albums at this point, as

27:48

I mentioned, Jamie, and then this new one called What

27:50

Now? So I recommend everyone check it

27:52

out. What a musical episode this has

27:54

been. Yeah, I guess so. Let's check

27:56

in with our friends at home. Micah says, I

27:58

recently started biking again. and after several years of

28:01

not being able to do regular cardio exercise

28:03

for various reasons. That's pretty great in and

28:05

of itself, but the really wonderful thing is

28:07

coming in hot and sweaty after a five

28:09

mile ride through the park, opening the fridge

28:11

and having a couple slices of delicious cold

28:13

watermelon. It's the most refreshing thing in the

28:15

world. Watermelon as

28:17

refreshment always fucking hits

28:19

for me. It's so funny. Watermelon is one of

28:21

those things that I forget about. Do

28:24

I like watermelon? And every time I'm like, oh

28:26

my God, I love watermelon. For me, if I

28:28

see it on a platter,

28:32

at a continental breakfast hotel bar,

28:35

or out on a table

28:37

at somebody's graduation party, I'm

28:40

not interested in it. But if somebody brings

28:42

out a whole ass watermelon by the poolside, it's

28:44

all I think about until I get that in

28:46

me. Yeah, I kind of learned

28:49

that trick because I was buying it

28:51

pre-sliced and the boys were kind of

28:53

somewhat interested in it. And then I

28:55

started buying slices, wedges and like cutting

28:57

them into little like long, what's

29:00

the word I'm looking for? Spears. Yeah. Watermelon

29:03

spears. Yeah, they almost look like a big watermelon

29:05

french fries. Yeah. And the boys went

29:08

crazy for them. That's great. This

29:10

one didn't have a name attached to it,

29:12

but I really liked it. My small wonder

29:14

is the post-sports game meal. My volleyball team

29:16

sometimes goes out to eat after games and

29:18

the rowdy, hungry post-game energy shared between good

29:20

friends makes for some of the best meals

29:22

I've ever had. I bet that's so good.

29:24

It's nice too. Kicking it with the

29:26

gang at the Alamo Freeze. Yeah.

29:29

After a big game against

29:32

our division rivals. I was never a

29:34

member of a sports team where this happened. Nor I, nor

29:36

I. Well, I was, like

29:39

when I played sports as a very

29:41

young child, it was like somebody brought

29:43

snack in a cooler. It wasn't like

29:45

y'all pile into cars and go. Yeah,

29:48

for me it was, baseball was the

29:50

game I played the most of. I

29:52

think I did two seasons

29:54

of baseball. Is that what they call

29:56

them? Seasons of baseball. Seasons.

30:02

and there was a concession stand there. So like if

30:04

you wanted to buy some stuff. I will

30:06

say when I was in marching band, we did

30:08

go out after the games a little bit. So

30:10

I guess in a way I've had this experience.

30:12

Well, yeah, I mean, don't get me wrong. I've been

30:15

to dozens of cast parties,

30:17

which is a rambunctious energy, not from

30:20

a physical place. We weren't doing

30:23

stomp, you know? We weren't

30:26

like physically acting very hard. So I

30:28

think you get a little bit of

30:30

extra from like this, like I'm exhausted

30:32

from all this physical exertion and the spirit

30:34

of competition, getting the adrenaline

30:36

pumped up. You don't get as much

30:38

of that in a cast party. You do

30:40

get some of it though. You know what

30:42

I think about anytime anyone mentions a cast

30:44

party is Lin-Manuel Miranda's performance of

30:46

Crucible Cast Party on when he was on

30:48

Saturday Night Live. Oh yeah, Jesus Christ. Oh

30:50

my God, I have to watch that again.

30:52

It was so good. I was thinking of

30:54

pin 15. Oh no,

30:57

I mean that's good too. The whole

30:59

like theater, high school theater arc of pin 15 is the

31:01

most blood curdling, just

31:04

bone chilling television I've ever watched. Thank

31:06

you so much for listening. Thanks to

31:08

Bo-In and Augustus for these for a

31:11

theme song, Money Won't Pay. Final link

31:13

to that in the episode description. Hey,

31:15

if you live in beautiful St. Louis,

31:17

Missouri, or what's it

31:20

called also the city where- Oh,

31:22

Chesterfield? Chesterfield. Or Kansas City. Or Kansas

31:24

City, but we're not doing wonderful at Kansas City.

31:27

Specifically plugging. It's St.

31:29

Louis, Chesterfield, Missouri. We're gonna be

31:31

doing wonderful opening up Mabimbam. And

31:34

that show is this Saturday. This week,

31:36

yeah. So come out and see us.

31:38

There's probably still tickets available. If you

31:40

go to bit.ly slash Maceroid Tours, you can

31:43

find links, but also Kansas City. We're coming

31:45

to you on Friday doing Mabimbam. And then

31:47

Tyson's Virginia just outside of the beautiful Washington

31:49

DC. We're gonna be doing Mabimbam there too on

31:52

Sunday. So come out and see us. And then next

31:54

week we'll probably put up that live wonderful show. Well,

31:57

don't say that. Well, I don't know when else we're

31:59

gonna record. I'm just saying like we need

32:01

people to feel like if they don't go to the

32:03

show. I mean, don't get me wrong. When you're

32:05

there in person, it's a totally different

32:08

energy. The energy is electric. The energy

32:10

is, it'll fuck you up. And

32:13

that's a threat. First five rows get wet.

32:15

First five rows may get

32:18

drenched. They will get wet. That's

32:20

a guarantee. And you'll never guess with

32:22

what. We say, what's your

32:25

small wonder? And then we fire hoses

32:27

into the. We shoot big hoses into

32:29

the crowd. Yeah,

32:31

Rachel's like my small wonder. I love mellow

32:33

yellow. And then she has like a whole

32:36

two liter mellow yellow and

32:38

she sprays it all over. So

32:40

come see our show and get sprayed with

32:42

mellow yellow. Money

32:45

won't pay. Work it out,

32:47

pay. Money won't

32:49

pay. Work it out, pay.

32:52

Money won't pay. Work

32:54

it out, pay. Money

32:57

won't pay. Work it

32:59

out, pay. Money won't

33:01

pay. Work it out,

33:03

pay. Money won't pay.

33:07

Money won't pay. Money

33:09

won't pay. Maximum

33:13

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