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Brittany Davis brings their life into vivid focus on 'Image Issues'

Brittany Davis brings their life into vivid focus on 'Image Issues'

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Brittany Davis brings their life into vivid focus on 'Image Issues'

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0:00

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Foods Market. This

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is World Cafe. I'm Reina Durris.

0:21

For Brittany Davis, music is everywhere.

0:23

It is in everything. Born

0:26

without sight, the Seattle-based artist has used music

0:28

as a way to communicate with and navigate

0:30

through the world ever since they can remember.

0:33

On their debut full-length album Image Issues,

0:35

Brittany lets you experience the world the

0:37

way they do through layers of sounds

0:39

and beats that you can feel that

0:41

are almost tangible. Coming up,

0:43

Brittany, who uses they-them pronouns, will talk

0:45

about making the album, which they did

0:48

almost entirely on their own. From writing

0:50

to mixing to performing nearly every instrument.

0:52

Brittany will also talk about their friendship

0:54

with Pearl Jam's Stone Gossard, who Brittany

0:56

plays with in Gossard's other band, Hainted

0:58

Shield, and whose record label, Loose Groove

1:01

Records, released Image Issues. Gossard

1:03

introduced Brittany to the album's co-producer, Josh

1:05

Evans, who has produced for Pearl Jam,

1:07

Brandy Carlisle, and more. Our

1:10

conversation is coming up, but first, a live

1:12

performance recorded in front of an audience at

1:14

World Cafe in Philadelphia. This is

1:16

Brittany Davis with a song from Image

1:18

Issues called So Fly. Coming

1:23

right to you. One,

1:51

two, three, oh! Yeah.

2:03

Uh. Oh, yeah.

2:06

I am Sonic the Trinity. Listen.

2:11

First was chocolate. Then

2:14

was the river. And

2:16

that was that river. I

2:21

unlocked it. All

2:23

of her secrets as I looked in the

2:25

mirror. I

2:29

didn't think. That's why I was looking.

2:31

It could get any clearer. I

2:37

looked at the reflection. It was deep

2:39

in inspection. I started to hear her.

2:43

And she said, it's so beautiful. It's

2:45

so lovely. It's so lovely. It's so

2:47

fly. It's so beautiful. It's so

2:49

lovely. Uh. No

2:52

why. It's so beautiful. It's so lovely.

2:54

It's so lovely. It's so lovely. It's

2:57

so lovely. It's so beautiful. It's so

2:59

lovely. And

3:04

I live with no limits. Everything

3:06

I'm with it. And

3:08

I live with no limits. Don't

3:11

control. I came

3:13

to steal your soul. With a

3:15

sonic blow. Come on. Get on

3:17

the floor. Come on.

3:20

Let's go. I'm so taken by you. Got

3:22

to thank you, baby. When we

3:24

begin you, I do it with you. I do it with

3:26

you. I'm

3:29

so taken by. You've got to take

3:31

the maker. Or maker you. It's

3:36

so beautiful. It's so lovely. It's

3:38

so lovely. It's so fly. It's

3:41

so beautiful. It's so lovely. U

3:44

Wiley, right? You know why. It's

3:46

so beautiful. It's so lovely. It's

3:48

so lovely. It's so fly. It's so

3:50

beautiful. It's so lovely. It's

3:54

so beautiful. So

4:30

beautiful, so lovely, so lovely

4:33

So blind, so beautiful, so

4:35

lovely I don't even know

4:37

why So beautiful, so lovely,

4:40

yeah So blind, so beautiful,

4:42

so lovely And

4:46

you know why So blind,

4:48

so wonderful, so lovely

4:51

Oh so beautiful, so

4:54

lovely And

4:57

you know why So

5:01

blind, so beautiful, so

5:03

lovely And

5:06

you know why So blind,

5:09

so lovely, yeah

5:12

Yeah Yeah

5:20

Yeah Yeah

5:29

Whoo! Performing

5:33

in front of a live audience that was

5:35

Brittany Davis for World Cafe with a

5:37

song called So Fly from their

5:40

new debut album Image Issues I'm Reina

5:42

Durris, Brittany Davis, welcome to the World

5:44

Cafe Thank you for having me

5:47

So happy to have you That

5:49

song, it's you talking yourself up You're

5:51

telling yourself you're beautiful So

5:53

much of this album deals with the idea

5:55

of beauty and acceptance and image I mean

5:57

it's called Image Issues Why

6:00

was that the song you wanted to start this set

6:02

with today? It's upbeat, it's

6:04

full of life, and it has

6:06

so much value. When

6:09

it comes to how we see ourselves,

6:12

and I want y'all to see me looking

6:15

at myself in a way, like,

6:18

it's different. Because it's

6:20

easy for people to see with their eyes,

6:22

but it's different. It's a whole

6:24

other world when you're looking at the

6:26

whole world with your ears. So

6:28

what I'm bringing to the table is

6:31

an opportunity for y'all to kind

6:33

of see what it's like looking

6:36

into a mirror and not

6:39

seeing a person per se,

6:41

but an image. A

6:45

valuable image, a persistent

6:47

image, an upbeat image, a driving

6:50

image, a

6:52

self image that gives

6:55

you hope and not, oh,

6:57

look at my face, it's so messed up, or

6:59

look at my skin. All of

7:01

these different things that we use to try

7:04

to cover up the insecurities within. I'm

7:07

just taking all of that stuff off from

7:09

the get. I'm taking

7:11

it all off, letting it all show, letting

7:13

you know that not only

7:15

am I beautiful and fly, I think you guys

7:17

are too. So

7:20

it's like, what a gift you have

7:22

to be able to see yourselves in a mirror. Even

7:26

though you might still have struggles with your

7:28

image, that's really a gift. That's

7:33

something that's admirable about sight

7:36

itself, just being able to have it

7:38

and know who you are and see

7:40

how you grow and see

7:43

how you progress. I've

7:45

never had that, but through music,

7:48

I have a similar experience. But

8:00

first, I want to

8:02

talk about the words that you sing and the

8:04

words that you say in these songs because the

8:06

album opens with a spoken word track called Treadmill

8:08

Memories Number One and there are seven of them

8:10

scattered throughout the record. They're

8:12

very vulnerable. They sound like you're giving

8:14

us kind of your internal monologue. I

8:17

can't time my shoes. I

8:21

feel stupid. I'm

8:25

supposed to be strong, but I'm weak. Everybody

8:34

says I'm wishy washy and they get to

8:36

talk nasty stuff. I

8:38

don't understand them. I

8:41

don't understand myself. I don't understand them.

8:45

I'm alone. I'm

8:47

alone. Not tomorrow, not

8:49

tomorrow. I'm alone. Did

8:55

you write those down or was that

8:57

all improvised? A

8:59

little of both. So

9:02

I wrote the outlines like mostly

9:04

it just came out of my

9:06

soul. But I said I need

9:08

to tell the stories that I'm afraid to

9:10

tell. That's one of the things that

9:12

I wrote in my notes for

9:15

when composing those treadmill memories

9:17

is that I need

9:19

to tell the stories that are the most embarrassing.

9:22

Some of the most degrading,

9:25

some of the most undone

9:27

and untethered stories that I could

9:29

possibly tell. Why?

9:31

Because there's nothing

9:36

more authentic than

9:39

a person or a type

9:42

of person who knows they're broken and still

9:46

puts themselves kind

9:48

of in harm's way by being vulnerable

9:50

like that. It

9:53

gives place to

9:56

a society that says if you're not beautiful in 30

9:58

years, you're not beautiful in 30 years. seconds,

10:02

then we reject you. If

10:05

you don't look the way we want you to look for

10:07

30 seconds, then we don't

10:09

accept you. And

10:12

we want to talk about that in image

10:14

issues. I want to talk about that, what

10:16

that feels like to not

10:19

even know what beauty is and what

10:21

it's considered to be. You know,

10:24

physically, aesthetically, I don't even understand

10:26

half of it. But

10:29

yet and still, the industry,

10:32

especially in media and arts,

10:34

is driven by those things a lot of the

10:36

time. And it

10:39

has been for a long time. So when

10:41

I told those stories on treadmill memories, I

10:45

was opening myself up so

10:47

that I can't tell people to break something

10:49

down if I'm not willing to be broken

10:51

myself. It sounds almost

10:54

like therapy in a way. Yes. Yeah.

10:57

I'm speaking with Brittany Davis on World Cafe.

10:59

We're going to hear you play another song

11:01

from the album in a second called Goons.

11:04

You have a lyric in Goons where you

11:06

say, it's hard enough being female than to

11:08

be big, black and blind as well. And

11:11

you get into how those traits affect how

11:13

people treat you. And I was wondering how

11:15

you feel about those labels. Is it empowering

11:17

to use them yourself? Are they confining or

11:20

is it something else completely? They

11:23

have defined me for a very

11:25

long time because of

11:27

the way that society sees

11:31

different body people. You know,

11:33

I know that there

11:35

are situations in

11:37

life that we

11:39

see is not fair. One of the things

11:42

that we say is that

11:44

life is not fair. In a lot

11:46

of regards, that's true. But one of the

11:48

things that make it the most unfair is

11:51

how we as society are driven

11:54

on what other people

11:56

are or are not. It

11:59

can get deep. I can go pretty deep with

12:01

that, but I just

12:04

say this. When

12:07

I wrote that song, I was

12:09

thinking about how being all

12:11

of those things, big and black and

12:14

blind and from the ghetto and

12:16

from this poverty and

12:19

this adversity, it made

12:21

me a target for society to

12:23

say, well, maybe she only

12:26

deserves a chance if she or when

12:29

she, with all these clauses. And

12:32

it felt, I don't

12:34

know, it was a liberating experience to be able

12:36

to channel all of that

12:38

through music because I know that music is

12:41

unconditional when it comes to the

12:43

expression itself. Will

12:45

you play goons for us? Absolutely. This is

12:47

Brittany Davis, live for the World Cafe. to

12:50

drive the world to the movies. Harvey

13:20

AB They'll

13:51

sell ya, imbibe ya,

13:53

and try ya Still

13:55

need you on the plate They'll sell

13:57

ya, imbibe ya, and try ya They'll

14:00

try ya, then leave you on

14:02

the plate. They'll sell ya, then

14:05

buy ya. Don't let

14:07

that go, you're wrong. It's

14:10

hard enough being females in the

14:12

beat. Be black and blind as

14:14

well. I'll make you lose your

14:16

mind. I'll make your head swell

14:18

just because people ain't with the

14:20

stuff or the smell. Yeah,

14:22

they want to treat you like a snail, like

14:24

you slow as what? But

14:26

they don't even understand. They're trying to

14:29

go with you, stuff, but they won't

14:31

even let you in the building because

14:33

they're saying you're not enough. And they'll

14:35

sell ya, then buy ya. And

14:37

try ya, then leave you on the

14:39

plate. They'll sell ya, then buy ya.

14:43

And try ya, then leave you on

14:45

the plate. They'll sell ya, then buy

14:48

ya. And try

14:50

ya, then leave you on the

14:52

plate. They'll sell ya, then buy

14:55

ya. Don't let the

14:57

goons do you wrong. Don't

14:59

let the goons do you wrong. Don't

15:01

let the goons do ya. Don't let the goons

15:03

do you wrong. Don't let the goons do you.

15:05

Don't let the goons do you wrong. Don't

15:08

let the goons do you wrong. Don't

15:10

let the goons do you wrong. Don't

15:12

let the goons do ya. Don't let

15:14

the goons do you wrong. Don't let

15:16

the goons do you. Don't let the

15:18

goons do you wrong. Wrong.

15:23

Wrong. Wrong.

15:27

Wrong. Wrong.

15:32

Wrong. Wrong.

15:36

Wrong. Wrong.

15:39

Wrong. Frank.

15:44

Wrong. Wrong. Wrong.

15:48

Wrong. Wrong.

15:52

Wrong. Don't

15:54

let the goons do you wrong. Don't let

15:56

the goons do you. Don't let the goons

15:58

do you wrong. Don't

16:00

let the goons do

16:02

you wrong Performing

16:35

a song from their debut album Image Issues

16:37

that was Brittany Davis on World Cafe. Brittany

16:40

Davis is my guest today. I'm Raina Duras.

16:43

Brittany, you started playing piano when

16:45

you were really little and sound

16:47

was something that you connected to

16:49

deeply really early on. I'm curious,

16:52

what are some of the earliest

16:54

sounds you can remember being

16:56

very aware of? Like

16:59

bird sounds, nature

17:03

sounds, anything wind, wind

17:07

chimes, water,

17:10

animals, all the little, you know, I used

17:12

to live in Kansas City and

17:14

at night the cicadas come out they go, and

17:19

you can hear them. I

17:21

used to think that was such a crazy sound. But

17:25

yeah, those are some of the first sounds that I

17:27

like was drawn to. Yeah.

17:29

So you would play these little pieces

17:31

of music as a little kid, but

17:33

your grandma put you into piano lessons

17:36

and your piano instructor helped

17:39

you write actual songs for the very first time. How did

17:41

they help you do that? By

17:43

letting me play weird melodies and

17:47

just stringing them all together. I feel

17:50

like honestly, we taught each other not saying that

17:52

I could teach a piano teacher, but you

17:55

know, like I taught him why

17:57

I showed him that I could just... speak

18:00

with music. And he told me that

18:02

there was a language that music

18:04

was given by people, which is

18:07

called music theory. I learned

18:10

the basics of that and then I took off

18:12

like a crazy woman. I

18:16

didn't learn, I wasn't classically trained. I wasn't

18:18

all like, but I could kind of

18:23

play, you know, I could kind of play at

18:25

it, but not really play it, you know? But

18:28

that's how he kind of helped me was

18:30

just letting me be random and just pick

18:33

stuff up. I'm

18:36

speaking with Brittany Davis on World Cafe. So when

18:39

you were around 15, you moved to Seattle,

18:41

eventually got involved in that music scene there.

18:44

That's where you met Stone Gossard of Pearl

18:46

Jam, who you play in a group with

18:48

called Painted Shield. How did you

18:50

and Stone become friends? So

18:52

we met through a lot of different mutual

18:54

friends and we, you know, one of our

18:56

friends, we actually met at

19:00

a concert and that person

19:02

was like, we got to introduce you

19:04

to Stone. We have to introduce.

19:06

And I was like, man, I don't know about

19:08

that. That's a rock star, man. I'm not trying

19:10

to get all up in the, in the business.

19:13

But then we went recorded. I went

19:15

to Stone's studio in Fremont, Washington, and

19:18

I actually recorded some music there. And

19:21

he actually heard

19:24

the music I recorded from

19:28

one of our friends and he was like, oh,

19:30

this right here is something

19:32

that I really am interested in,

19:35

you know, further

19:37

exploring, you know, exploring

19:39

further. So just talking

19:41

with Stone and going with him, like

19:43

we, we like peas in the pot

19:45

now. You know, he calls me his

19:47

musical sensei. Can I brag a little bit? But

19:51

really he's my musical sensei because he taught

19:53

me that I didn't have to do things

19:56

the same way. And

19:58

I was kind of going to not a

20:01

writer's block, but kind

20:03

of like I was insane because

20:06

I had so many melodies but I didn't know

20:08

how to express them. And his genre,

20:10

which is the rock genre and the

20:13

grunge genre, all of that. He kind

20:15

of taught me how to let loose

20:17

and just be free. Play the music.

20:19

Don't think, well, it's not R&B

20:21

enough or it's not rap enough or it's

20:23

not this enough. Just let the music be

20:25

what it is. And that's

20:27

one of the biggest hurdles

20:30

that I had to overcome as

20:32

a musician. In

20:34

Stone, as my friend, he really did.

20:38

He gave me so much insight

20:40

into that. You were listening

20:42

to a conversation with Brittany Davis. Brittany's new album

20:44

is called Image Issues. But right now you're gonna

20:46

hear them perform a song from their 2022 EP,

20:49

I Choose To Live. Here's

20:52

Brittany Davis with Loud Loud World, live

20:54

for the World Cafe. 遏自

20:59

Hendo As

21:37

I open up my

21:40

eyes I

21:44

realize that I'm not

21:46

the girl I used to be And

21:57

as I open up

22:00

I realized that I

22:03

don't hear what I

22:06

used to hear.

22:08

Sometimes it all

22:10

seemed so loud.

22:19

I wish I could turn it

22:21

all down. Even

22:27

though

22:30

I cannot see, does

22:32

it mean I'm in

22:34

some alternate reality? See,

22:40

you've got to understand that

22:42

I am human, just

22:46

like everyone else. And

22:50

even though I'm blind, don't

22:52

mean I've got a super mind. I'm

22:55

just me, I'm

22:57

myself, I am

23:01

only human.

23:09

And I am, I'm

23:12

only a girl

23:16

in this loud, loud

23:20

world.

23:40

Oh, pre-buns sit

23:43

on the table from

23:46

when I used to

23:49

run dry. I

23:52

wish I could go

23:54

back to

23:57

those days of innocence.

24:01

But now that I'm older,

24:03

it seems like the world

24:06

is on my shoulders You

24:09

saw those words coming, well

24:13

maybe you should commit to

24:16

my heart and listen

24:20

Cause I am, I'm

24:23

only human And

24:30

I am, I'm

24:33

only human

24:40

See I try my

24:42

best to, like everyone

24:44

else and I'm no

24:46

superhero I'm

24:48

just my self-help,

24:52

I am, I'm

24:54

only a girl In

24:58

this loud, loud world

25:04

Sometimes it all

25:07

seems so loud

25:16

I wish I could turn

25:18

it all down Even

25:22

though I cannot see,

25:24

doesn't mean I'm

25:27

in some alternate reality Cause

25:31

I am, I'm

25:34

only human

25:39

Yeah, I am,

25:43

I'm only

25:45

human See

25:51

I try my best to, like

25:54

everyone else and I'm

25:56

no superhero I'm

25:59

just my I'm only

26:03

a girl in

26:06

this loud love

26:09

world. World.

26:31

Brittany Davis performing for a live audience

26:33

for World Cafe. Loud,

26:35

loud world. That's from Brittany's 2022 EP I

26:37

Choose to Live. Brittany

26:41

is my guest today. I'm Raina Durris and they

26:43

have a new album called Image Issues. Brittany,

26:46

you play every instrument on this album.

26:48

You wrote the songs, you engineered, you

26:50

co-produced it along with Josh Evans. Why

26:53

did you want to have your hand in every

26:55

single part of this process? It's

26:58

my language. It's my story. This

27:00

is my soul. I've

27:03

heard of selling a soul, but I

27:05

never heard of recording one. But with

27:08

Image Issues, that's what happened. Literally,

27:11

that's what happened. I

27:13

didn't pretend. I

27:15

didn't let go of anything because there was

27:18

nothing to let go of except

27:20

for everything. When

27:23

I put myself in the

27:25

creative mode, it's hard for me to get

27:28

out. I'm thinking about everything. I'm like, bass

27:30

notes everybody. Okay, let me get the

27:32

right ones. Hold on, hold on. I

27:35

am so involved with it because it's a part

27:38

of me. I can't... I

27:40

don't know. Why are

27:42

you the only one using your body? I don't know. It's

27:46

life, it's self. I

27:48

have a technical question because I can imagine, for

27:50

someone who is sighted, I know how they would

27:52

produce music and edit it on a computer. You'd

27:54

be able to see the tracks and move them

27:56

around on your computer program. How do you

27:58

do it? Oh, that's

28:00

a can of worms there. So

28:03

when it comes to this

28:05

is again about, you

28:07

know, accessibility

28:10

awareness as well, because

28:12

the producer track for me is honestly,

28:14

it's not as easy as it should

28:16

be. And it's not as intuitive as

28:19

it could be. Now, not

28:21

saying that it's impossible

28:24

or anything, but the

28:26

way that I had to do it is I used

28:28

I use a software

28:32

called Logic Pro, and I produce

28:34

all of my tracks in

28:36

that digital

28:39

audio workstation or DAW for short.

28:43

And I have

28:45

a screen reader

28:47

called VoiceOver that I

28:49

use with a Macintosh

28:51

computer. But alternatively

28:54

to use in a mouse, which

28:57

I can't use due to my

28:59

visual impairment, I

29:02

use keyboard strokes or

29:04

keystrokes or

29:07

key combinations to navigate

29:09

the screen or the

29:11

onscreen software. However,

29:14

some of that software due to

29:17

accessibility issues is not fully accessible

29:20

to me. So

29:22

like there's things like that I

29:24

can't automate, you know, like if you listen

29:26

to the album, there's

29:29

parts in the song, some of the songs

29:31

that actually slow down and stop. I

29:33

can't do that on my own. I

29:35

have to have other people help me do that. And

29:39

it causes kind of a, I guess it's

29:41

a chink in my armor a little bit. But

29:43

you know, as a producer, I want to be strong.

29:45

I want to be like, boom, I want to be

29:48

knocking. I don't know. I'm going to be

29:50

knocking Metro booming out the seat. I'm

29:53

Dr. Dre, you know, bling, bling, bling, bling.

29:57

That's who I imagined being when I was a

29:59

kid. But I didn't even know how production

30:01

worked because, I mean, again,

30:03

it's a visual thing, right?

30:05

So you see it, but

30:07

imagine not being able to see it. So

30:10

how are you going to get a reference to what

30:12

you even need to become a producer in a

30:15

place where producing

30:18

ain't even a thing. It's about selling,

30:21

you know, drugs or being out

30:23

there in the streets, you know? Always worried

30:25

about how to get a

30:27

kid, a computer to produce, let alone a

30:29

blind kid who can't even use it. So

30:33

those kinds of things, you know, that's how

30:35

I produce my music though is with

30:38

software that's barely accessible. And

30:43

I'd make it in chunks. I'm like, okay,

30:45

this chunk right here, I got to send

30:47

it to the engineer because right here, I

30:49

got to stop the song. I got

30:51

to, you know, very tape, you

30:53

know, slow it down. So

30:57

yeah, it's a fun process, but

30:59

it's a lot of work. One

31:03

thing that Josh Evans did

31:05

suggest that made its way onto the album,

31:07

I thought this was really interesting, suggested when

31:09

you need finished, mostly finished the album, he

31:12

said, why don't you play piano over top of

31:14

the entire finished record? What

31:16

was your initial reaction when he suggested that? I

31:18

was like, oh my goodness, I'm about

31:20

to mess up everything that I just worked

31:22

so hard to get together. But

31:25

it was like icing on a really

31:27

good cake, you know? Not

31:30

only was it beautiful, but it glued

31:32

things together that otherwise wouldn't have been.

31:35

And it talked, it spoke so,

31:38

it spoke in ways I didn't even know it would

31:40

speak because again, image

31:43

issues came out of me. It's my,

31:46

it's my projects and it's my baby, you

31:48

know? It's me.

31:52

It is literally me. So when that piano

31:54

was talking, it was me talking and it

31:57

literally brought me. the

32:00

tears like, man, how you think of that?

32:02

Like, see, that's why it

32:04

helps having teams like that. For

32:07

real. It is amazing when you listen

32:09

to the record and you listen for the piano in

32:11

every song and you can, sometimes it's pretty low in

32:13

the mix, but it's there, just kind of, you

32:16

know, it's a ribbon that flows throughout the whole thing and connects

32:18

it all. I'm

32:20

speaking to Brittany Davis. Their new album is

32:23

called Image Issues. You have one more song

32:25

for us. It is called Sephi-Con, and I

32:27

should say we Googled, if you Google the

32:30

word Sephi-Con, nothing will come up except for

32:32

this song. Brittany, what does

32:34

Sephi-Con mean? Sephi-Con.

32:38

Oh. Oh. So

32:43

like, so I wanted to kind of,

32:46

you know, to elaborate a little bit more on

32:48

that. So

32:50

it literally was just me like,

32:53

vowels and consonants, okay? I

32:55

wasn't thinking, but some people say it's a

32:57

sexy leprechaun. Some people say it's a

33:00

crazy person. I don't know. I

33:02

don't know if I was really allowed to say

33:05

that, but those are some of the interpretations

33:08

that I've gotten. But really

33:10

what it is, it's an experiment

33:13

with an experience, because

33:15

I want you to understand something

33:17

about me as

33:20

a bearer of sound opposed to image. I

33:22

can't see, so when you pulled

33:24

up to this

33:27

building today, you

33:29

saw it before you touched it. You

33:32

saw it before you came here. And

33:34

even if you've been here before, you see it, you

33:38

can look at a picture of it and see it.

33:41

If I touch a picture of this building, it's

33:43

a flat piece of paper. There's

33:46

no dimensions to it. There's

33:48

no dimensions to it. And

33:53

so that's kind of how everything in my

33:55

world manifests itself

33:58

in different ways. I

36:30

don't want to see you out there acting

36:32

all crazy. I

36:56

don't even want to feel. Hating

37:00

on my game back, you

37:02

ain't really ready for controller. Hating

37:05

on me get your model, open your door

37:08

just like a folder. Back

37:11

it up like a hard drive, I'm about

37:13

to show you how I really do it.

37:16

Wooo! Stick it to

37:18

the man, woo! Back

37:20

I said I don't know it, woo! I'm

37:23

a beauty in the face, boo! Black

37:26

beauty, beautiful too! Hating

37:28

on me, you don't know what you're messing with.

37:31

Hating on me and I get your hands lit. What

37:34

you talking about? You ain't talking about it. You

37:38

ain't talking about it. What you talking

37:40

about? You ain't talking about it. You

37:42

can understand it, you can understand it.

37:44

You ain't talking about it. What you

37:47

talking about? You ain't talking about it.

37:49

You ain't talking about it. What you

37:51

talking about? You ain't talking about it.

37:53

Talk it out the side of your

37:55

neck. One,

40:30

two, three, four! One,

40:37

two, three, four! Yeah!

40:49

Yeah, yeah, yeah! That

40:59

was just me, that was me! Live

41:02

for World Cafe, Brittany Davis joined

41:04

by Snacktime, song with Sephrakhan, it's

41:06

from Brittany's new album, Image Issues.

41:09

Brittany Davis has been my guest

41:11

today. Brittany, thank

41:14

you so much for being here. Thank you. Thanks

41:20

again everybody for being here. Thank you

41:22

Brittany and the band and everyone. Snacktime, thanks

41:24

so much. I'm

41:26

Raina Durris, back in a moment with more

41:28

World Cafe. David

41:56

Lynch's films explore dark themes, but in

41:58

a rare interview on World Cafe,

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