Marisa Demarco had me over to her studio, where, in front of a table full of cheap gold earrings she was currently turning into a circuit board, she told me about her worst show ever. There's no way for me to accurately describe this amazing person without saying she's a living pioneer of experimental music and one of my personal musical heroes. It was an honor to have her on the show and get deep into intersections of politics, experimentation, and performance. Not only does she bring years of experience playing in some of my favorite musical acts (Bigawatt, Chicharra, Big Hen, and more), but her unique perspective as a founder and curator of Gatas y Vatas festival in Albuquerque made for some great stories and observations.