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Welcome to Worst Year Ever, a production

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of I Heart Radio. Welcome

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Together Everything,

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so don't don't do so.

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Welcome to the Worst

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Hear Ever Podcast.

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My name is Katie Stole and I'm Robert

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Evans. And in case you guys didn't

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hear that, this is going to be the worst year ever because

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Cody is continuing to do his time

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machine noises. Uh, and they are

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grotesque. I was told that there

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were some mixed reviews and uh, I

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didn't go over all with some people, and now

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doubling down, that's where we are. This is

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your fault, you guys. You've encouraged

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I forgave O. J. Simpson when he came

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back on Twitter with that series of charming

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videos. But I can't to give this interesting

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interesting your can for giveness

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mechanism? You have? Wait, so when he posted

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when he posted the videos saying like I got

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a lot of what do you say, like I got a lot of scores

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to settle or something like that that

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that garnered your forgiveness.

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When I when I was a child

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and I would do something wrong, or when you know

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my parents would do something wrong. I was raised

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to believe that when you apologize, you pose

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with a set of golf clubs on a golf course

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and talk about all the scores you have to settle, and

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that is the truest way to express contrition.

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So I can assume that O. J.

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Simpson meant to

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express his deep sorrow over

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his past actions. And uh yeah,

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okay, well then I apologize

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for the time travel noise, and I

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promised to get revenge on you by doing

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it. I

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don't believe it without the golf course. We

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can addit this out, but can I read it?

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It's really The review

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says that time machine

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noise was all it took back to Rachel Maddow,

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which I was like, you know what, that's

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part out Daniel. By the way, Oh

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no, no, I say we leave it in the world

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needs to know I'm

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de radicalizing people with my time noises.

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I'm imagining that person was like on their

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way to bomb a bank with like a mask

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on and stuff, and they heard your time machine noises

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and said, you know what I'm going,

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Joe, we gotta

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get rid of We gotta get rid of. Drump turns

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on him a moderate cool.

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Well, today guys were

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gathered here to discuss not

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Joe Biden, not Rachel matt

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Out, not time Machine voices, but Andrew

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Yang, the meme king, the

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unabashed lover of s n L. He

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loves SNL. Well, he was

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tweeting about how much he liked

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this last week's episode or something like that, and

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you know he wanted to sit down with Shane Gillis. I

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don't know, guys, this is going to be a different

3:05

kind of episode because Andrew

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Yang has never been a politician.

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Uh So, there's we're going to be

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digging in right, There's not a lot of record, and

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we're talking about his life, his career. Are

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you ready for this? I

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am so ready.

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Everyone seems pumped. I'm

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gonna need to take the energy downal looney,

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Okay, Okay, let me try this again, Katie, I

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am. I am so into Andrew

3:35

Yang that whenever I

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read studies on the efficacy

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of universal basic income, the

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crutch of my pants explodes. Okay,

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that's the kind of setup, Like we

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are so on, we're on fire right

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now. Yeah, Like it's crotch, geez

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my crotch. When I even think about

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Andrew Yang's policy statements, you just

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this is going to be a very un comfortable episodes

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for you. Then, I

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can't wear quaduroy anymore. Too many third degree

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burns. Just take off your pants now then,

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okay, I'm pansless because

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of Andrew Yang, which is interestingly

4:13

enough, his new slogan going into he

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doesn't need anymore memes, but

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he's got one that'll that'll do. Pig that'll

4:22

do. Andrew Yang, leader

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of the Yangang, self described

4:27

serial entrepreneur, was

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born in Snectadee, New York, to Taiwanese immigrants.

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In growing up, Yang

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was bullied for his race. That sucks. Both

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of his parents went to grad school at Berkeley, and Yang attended

4:38

Brown as an undergrad before getting his lotgrey from

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Columbia. Uh. He

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quickly got a job as a corporate

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attorney at Davis, Polk and ward

4:46

Well, which is an international law firm in New York

4:48

City, but that did not last

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long. Apparently he left after

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only five months because he

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did not feel that was the right path

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for him. It's interesting, that's a real quick

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after putting in all that time and money and then

5:02

immediately and that's fine,

5:05

that's fine. I kind of respect that a lot.

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It's hard, especially when you put in like it's hard

5:10

to quit a job. But like when you've when

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you've really put the time in on the back end, and

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you realize that should I hate this? No,

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I mean, like I say, it's interesting,

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but you're right. It's also like, who wants to be a

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corporate attorney? A lot of people? Yeah, even

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like I've got friends who went to law school because they were

5:26

like told they should or like there was

5:28

a lot of pressure. I guess I'll go

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to law school. And now they don't do

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anything with it because we're like, I don't care

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for it. So, after leaving his

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law job, he started a nonprofit

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called Star Giving, which was a website

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which connected people to celebrity charities,

5:44

making small donations. Each time the visitor clicked

5:46

a button. The site would enter visitors

5:48

into raffles to meet early two

5:50

thousand stars like Mike, Magic Johnson

5:53

and Hoodie and the Blowfish. But

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despite the draw of those magnetic personalities,

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the company only lasted a couple of years. Uh,

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like two thousand. That's good, that's towards the end

6:04

of there. There's

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a correlation here to why his company last.

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And I don't think it's just the dot com bubble

6:12

bursting. Probably well, that's what they would

6:14

point to. I think it's it's who he blew

6:16

all his fish. Um,

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hey, yes, that's

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the late two thousand's reboot of

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Hoodie and the Blowfish. He blew

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all of it perfect

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U. He briefly sold cut Co knives

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to make ends meet before. I

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was hoping that would get a little should we should

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we give our listeners the heads up as to what I'm

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going to guess about fifty percent of them have gotten

6:44

slightly conned by cut Co in the past. I'm

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getting saying, why did Roberts

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just burst out laughing? Do you want to give

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us some background on cut Do you have like a personal relationship

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with cut Knives? I have a little bit of one.

6:55

I have a little bit of one. When I was nineteen

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years old and looking for a job, I

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saw an ad up in my college

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for a fifteen dollar an hour, which is pretty

7:06

good wage back in the two

7:08

thousand seven um job

7:11

as a I think it advertised

7:13

it is like working as a secretary for cut

7:15

Co Knives endeavor

7:18

And I had to like come to They wanted me to come

7:20

to this orientation seminar to see if I

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could. And I called them and stuff and like, oh yeah, you sound

7:24

perfect for the job, come to this orientation seminar

7:26

and like we'll get everything started. And so I was

7:28

like really excited because I needed

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money, and I like told

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my dad and he like looked

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at it and said, do you know what cut co knives are? And

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I was like no, and he says, Okay, well,

7:39

it's a pyramid scheme based around

7:41

selling kitchen knives for a way too

7:43

much money, and there's no job

7:46

for you. They're going to try to get you to buy a bunch of kitchen

7:48

knives. And then I looked it up online and

7:50

I found like dozens and dozens more

7:52

than that of like people's reports. It is like they

7:54

they get you into a room and they try to sell you a bunch

7:56

of overpriced knives that you can go do knife demonstrations

7:59

about how we'll see that might

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have been a good job for you, though, Robert, you

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love knives, no because they're bad. Nine.

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I would love to sell good knives when I

8:08

get tired of being heartbroken

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that my friends in Syria are being betrayed

8:13

by the US government. UM, I will absolutely

8:16

sell quality handmade

8:18

knives to people by hacking through pieces

8:20

of wood and old state grizzle that sounds

8:23

like a great way to spend my life. Feels

8:25

like a cut Co knives are bad. It feels like a

8:27

good time to put out there to anybody that's selling nice

8:29

knives, that we're looking for knives sponsors. You're

8:32

looking very knife sponsor. Uh,

8:35

Gerber, hit us up. You know, worst,

8:38

your clever worst, your clever

8:42

terrence. Anyway, it was sharpens pieces

8:44

of metal on the side of a trash can in

8:46

my alley near my house. We're

8:48

you know, we're taking all comers all

8:51

right. After his brief

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stint as a cut Co knives salesman, Uh,

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he became a part time tutor from Manhattan

8:57

Prep, a tutoring company in New York. He

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had been began tutoring full time and actually

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writing college the questions for the tests

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uh and was appointed CEO in

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two thousand and six after the CEO left

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UM. The company's hook was that it paid tutors

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a hundred dollars an hour, which is like four times at the

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market rate, and they were very selective about which

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tutors they accepted. UM. But then in

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two thousand and eight, when the recession was peaking,

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Yang started to get worried that his company would be hit

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hard. But it turned out the opposite was true. With

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the loss of all these jobs. Uh, they actually

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saw a dramatic spike both in people going back to

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business school and enrolling in GMAC courses

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as well as tutors looking for employment. Employment,

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and the company became very profitable very

9:37

quickly. Um, and it seems that he was

9:39

a very affable, unlikable boss.

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I included this little quote to give some perspective.

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Quote. After joining the company, Yang's

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former employees say they found a chill start

9:48

up vibe and a boss with a whimsical presence

9:50

in the office. Yang constantly saying musical

9:52

narrations of what he was doing, like sending

9:55

emails and

9:57

which and would strike

9:59

a gone long on Friday evenings to tell everyone

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to go home. That's from Slate us

10:06

Michael Scott a little bit, Michael, Yeah,

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yeah, yes, people liked

10:11

that. People seem to like it, I

10:13

guess or just noted

10:15

it. I don't know, right, and start

10:17

to read like it could be like it's

10:20

like, oh yeah, they found like a chill startup vibe

10:23

and a boss with like a whimsical presence

10:25

in the office. He hit a gong every like

10:27

the tone can shift. I

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chose to read it as yeah,

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you know, aditive, but you know, a little insight

10:34

into the kind of boss that he is. Um.

10:37

Interestingly, you does have mixed

10:39

feelings about standardized testing. That's probably

10:41

because of his time in the standardized test

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world. Um. But he believes that it contributes

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to the myth of meritocracy,

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criticizes it in his book The World on Normal People.

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Most of success today is about how

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good you are at certain tests and what kind of family background

10:55

you have. Intellect, as narrowly divined by academics

10:58

and test scores, is now the proxy for human

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worth. Yeah. I agree with him.

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He's right on the money with that one. Yeah. He also

11:05

told Slate that the fact that so many kids have

11:07

their ambition shaped by their performance on these tests

11:09

is unfortunate. Right. Oh yeah, it sticks

11:12

with you. Um, I'm

11:14

on board with all that. Yeah. Yeah. So anyway,

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Manhattan Prep was sold to Kaplan,

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the tutoring behemoth and two

11:21

thousand nine, which earned Yang millions

11:23

of dollars. Uh. He went on the

11:25

Freakonomics podcast earlier this year, after

11:28

you know running for office, and said

11:30

that we were acquired for low tens of millions so I

11:32

walked away with some number in the millions. Um.

11:34

And I'm bringing that up because obviously

11:36

that was probably very exciting sale for him

11:38

and it made him a wealthy man. But it's

11:40

very different than the picture that I had

11:43

of him as like a

11:45

tech billionaire. I don't know where I got

11:47

that idea from him, but everyone's like, you know,

11:49

as tech billionaire guy, but you know he's

11:52

actually it's a much more

11:54

modest sum than that. Um

11:57

and Stan, Yeah, like what

11:59

he's done. And then like the company, that's

12:02

a lot of gongs, Katie, it's a lot of gongs.

12:05

You can buy a lot more gongs for millions

12:07

of dollars, or you can buy one nice.

12:12

I was gonna say, a big one, but a nice one,

12:14

sure. I mean the size doesn't necesarily matter with gongs.

12:16

It's like you know, the residents, the type of

12:18

metal. I would say, a big one resonates your

12:21

right size is not the possibility of him being

12:23

our first gong president really actually does

12:25

make me consider voting for him just at the

12:27

at five o'clock Eastern standard time

12:29

every day presidential

12:33

gong. Yeah, we

12:35

could just we could replace I don't know what's one of the

12:37

states. We don't need um

12:40

Oklahoma with a gong, uh

12:42

like a giant or No, it needs to be more

12:44

central Kansas. Kansas

12:47

will make Kansas one big gong and

12:49

we can just ring out the day every night.

12:51

It sounds lovely, sorry Kansas.

12:54

Yeah. Um. After the sale of

12:56

Manhattan Prep, Yang briefly worked as

12:58

a health tech entrepreneur. Could find the name

13:00

of that company, but that was very

13:02

brief before starting Venture for

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America and twenty eleven. The

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company's stated goal is to find the

13:10

next generation of entrepreneurs by providing

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a two year fellowship to recent college

13:14

graduates and pairing them with startups UM.

13:16

According to their website quote, fellows

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learn important startup skills at our month long training

13:21

camp, apply for jobs within our vetted company network,

13:23

and work for two years as full time salaried employees

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in one of fourteen cities. When fellows are ready

13:27

to start a company, be it two years after college

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or ten, v f A has the resources

13:32

UM to help make that dream a reality. And

13:34

I actually think that's kind of interesting,

13:37

um, an interesting idea, uh.

13:40

Circling back to what I was just saying about his

13:42

money and income even there,

13:45

UM, he isn't earning

13:47

it astronomical amount of

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money. In sixteen as CEO, he

13:52

earned two thousand dollars uh, when

13:55

the company's revenue was almost at

13:57

seven million. So again

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wealthy and successful, but by means like

14:02

hoarding his wealth billionaire. It

14:05

seems like also fair

14:07

compensation for CEO of a company

14:09

of that size. It does like

14:12

Musk style tech billionaire. And

14:14

ain't all that just to say like it seems

14:16

like a generally okay dude, you

14:18

know. Um. And while

14:20

he was there at Venture for America,

14:23

that's when Yang's metamorphosis from

14:26

regular old entrepreneur to tech

14:28

savvy politician started to take root.

14:31

It is kind of like his origin story, if

14:33

you will. Uh. While running

14:35

v f A, Yang traveled across the Midwest

14:38

and saw the problems that automation

14:40

has caused, and he realized that automation was

14:42

changing how people function in the economy. So you started

14:44

thinking about the benefits of universal

14:47

basic income. Now, obviously u

14:49

b I is not a new idea. There

14:51

have been experiments with it all over the world.

14:54

Um, but it certainly is a new concept for

14:56

many Americans. Uh. And this is kind

14:58

of the central tenants of his candidacy.

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He believes that automation will eliminate jobs

15:03

and make basic income necessary.

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Um. That in economic inequality

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can be addressed with more entrepreneurship,

15:11

and that universal basic income will help

15:13

people to become entrepreneurs.

15:16

And we're going to talk more about that in just a minute.

15:18

We're going to circle back because there's a lot to unpack

15:21

here. I'm just getting through his backstory

15:23

first. Um. But then after that, Yang

15:26

stepped down as CEO of Venture

15:28

for America and filed

15:31

with the FEC to run for president

15:33

as a Democrat and also

15:35

unnowingly added his name to our list of people

15:38

that are helping make this the worst year ever. Uh

15:42

yeah, okay, can't wait? Cool?

15:45

Uh yeah, So Yan the politician, like I

15:47

mentioned up top, he's different than all

15:50

of our other candidates because Yang

15:52

has never held in the elected office. He's never even

15:54

run for office. Hum,

15:58

candidate but the president? But of

16:00

our events sure sure, well,

16:02

except that at this point he has run and one

16:05

well also at that point when Trump was running,

16:07

he had he had run

16:09

before, um, not successfully,

16:12

But so this is

16:14

this guy's a little different. Um.

16:16

But he qualified for the debates by getting

16:18

one percent in the polls, he's now at three percent

16:20

UH and getting a minimum of sixty donors.

16:24

Yang believes that the reason Trump is president is,

16:26

quote, we automated away four million manufacturing

16:29

jobs in Michigan, Ohio, Iowa, and all

16:31

the swing states he needed to win. I'm not

16:33

sure where he got that four million number. Predictions

16:35

about how many jobs will be lost to automation

16:37

are kind of all over the place, UH,

16:40

but Oxford

16:42

studies suggest that pent of all U

16:45

S jobs are at risk of being automated

16:47

in the coming decades UM.

16:50

So that brings us back to universal Basic income UM.

16:53

Yang's plan is

16:57

a proposed UBI of a

16:59

thousand dollars in month for every American UM

17:01

and it's also known as his Freedom

17:04

Dividend, so a thousand dollars

17:06

a month or twelve thous dollars a year to all US

17:08

citizens over the age of eighteen. His

17:11

website claims that will be paid for by

17:13

value added tacks of ten percent and by consolidating

17:15

it with existing welfare programs.

17:18

So basically, people would

17:21

need to choose between keeping their welfare

17:23

their food stamps or what have you, or

17:25

getting U B I not both, and

17:29

that's a problem to me. And

17:32

I know that you have thoughts about that. Well, he's

17:34

talked about it on Reuben Reports specifically. I

17:36

know like sort of like that's kind

17:38

of the end goal of like get rid of these welfare

17:40

programs and just have this one thing. My

17:43

issue with it is a it's called a freedom

17:45

dividend, and I've I

17:49

think we need to sort of collectively

17:51

reevaluate what freedom means to us

17:53

and how like what is living free?

17:56

How do you live free? Um?

17:59

And we know that like there

18:01

are these basic needs that everybody has to survive

18:04

and it's shelter and it's food. Um.

18:06

Community is important. But like the

18:08

idea that you have this freedom dividend and it's

18:10

meant to sort of free people up to live

18:12

in the society where jobs are disappearing, Like

18:15

truck driving is the number one job

18:18

in America and that will eventually be gone.

18:20

But if you have a thousand dollars a month

18:23

and you're calling it a freedom dividend and it's for people,

18:25

it's for everybody, then you

18:28

need to pair that with you are

18:30

able to survive on a thousand dollars a month. You

18:32

can have a you can have you

18:34

can get shelter, you can get food, and you can get clean

18:36

water and get all these things. If

18:38

you have a thousand dollars a month, right, Like

18:42

thousand dollars a month as is doesn't really

18:44

help people, especially if you're taking away

18:47

there are other benefits, So it

18:49

would be helpful to people if they were

18:51

able to get like if we had functioning

18:53

food stamps, if we had a like if we had

18:56

um a universal health care system,

18:59

if his plan didn't

19:01

involve like kind of the gutting and reduction of like food

19:03

stamps for Medica. Yeah,

19:05

he has for Medicare for all. He's yeah, he's

19:08

on board with that now. But like it doesn't work

19:10

just on its own, and it doesn't work if you're

19:12

also cutting these other social services

19:15

that people need, because like, um,

19:17

you know, a thousand dollars a month isn't nothing.

19:20

It could significantly help people, but

19:22

if you're also cutting their access to other benefits,

19:24

than like you're kind of just robbing

19:27

Peter to pay also Peter,

19:30

Yeah, Peter and Peter Peters still fucked.

19:33

It just doesn't go very far. And

19:35

then you're getting people and and he says it's to

19:37

encourage entrepreneurship, Like that's

19:39

what we need in America more

19:41

entrepreneurship, And like, I understand

19:44

the idea of wanting to promote and encourage growth

19:47

and progress and all of that, but really

19:49

that does to me is that it continues to

19:52

um uh

19:55

exacerbate the income inequality gap.

19:57

So like people that have more money, uh

20:00

will be getting this a thousand, like maybe they will have more money

20:02

to play with to encourage entrepreneurship. People that

20:04

need money are still going to be needing

20:06

to spend that on their food in their basic living

20:08

expenses. Right, and then two or three weeks go by and they're

20:10

like, well, that freedom dividend is gone, and I still he

20:12

did the map on the way over here that comes out

20:14

to like six dollars an hour or like four hours

20:17

a week. It's like something like that, which

20:20

again it's like I don't know. If you're giving people

20:22

thousand dollars a month and you're like, now this is good,

20:24

then make sure that it can It

20:26

can help people survive even if they like

20:28

if they're on disability or like they have they

20:31

just lost their job, or they have a medical emergency or

20:33

something. Well, at least I can pay rent and food

20:36

with this freedom dividend, Right, Um. I think

20:38

one of the just one of the like most

20:40

insidious things I think and clever

20:43

things that the Founding Fathers did was

20:46

not give us a U B. I. Well. The phrase

20:48

life liberty and the pursuit of happiness. The pursuit

20:51

of happiness was not the original phrasing.

20:53

It was life, liberty and property. But

20:56

they were like, oh, yeah, you

20:58

can't guarantee property, and we're gonna change

21:00

it to pursuit of happiness

21:03

and this sort of vague idea. UM.

21:05

And I don't know. I just think it's yeah,

21:07

and it's just I don't here.

21:10

I don't think that U B. I is. I

21:12

think it's an important conversation and I'm

21:14

glad that some that we're having it. I just think

21:17

this specifically is the wrong

21:19

plan and um

21:21

and I don't want that to detract

21:24

from people's acceptance of the idea

21:26

that we might need to keep having this conversation in the

21:28

future as this is increasing. Do you know

21:30

what I mean? UM, that's kind

21:32

of my perspective on your freedom

21:35

dividend. It's not a terrible

21:38

idea, but when you're not using it to screw

21:40

over people on food stamps or uh do

21:43

it's collaterally doing that. And then Yang

21:46

made waves in September with a stunt that he

21:49

did at the Democratic Debate when he announced that he will

21:51

give away of Freedom dividend to ten

21:53

families thousand dollars a month for

21:55

a year for each family. UM, the funds

21:57

are coming from his campaign and we'll pay out

21:59

even Fiang does not become president UM

22:02

or the nominee. But he's

22:04

been accused of bribing voters

22:07

by this, uh doing something

22:09

illegal. But PolitiFact reach

22:11

out to the FC FEC spokesman,

22:14

spokeswoman excuse me, Judith Ingram

22:16

uh and they said it's not covered by the FEC

22:19

commissioned rules for the Federal Election Campaign

22:21

Actum. It's kind of a legal gray area, uh,

22:24

you know, and it's kind of a shaky legal

22:26

reasoning that they have against him because

22:28

it can be argued that it's a campaign promotion.

22:31

UM, but it is definitely a stunt. Yeah.

22:33

I don't really see it as any different though

22:35

than um spending money on an advertisement

22:38

or whatever. That's essentially what he's doing. That's what this

22:40

is for, is to make political ads. Like I don't

22:43

yeah, anyone making a big deal about that,

22:45

Like it seems Um, pretty

22:48

like a pretty reasonable thing to do. Now, I

22:50

don't think it would actually makes an argument

22:52

in favor of U b I, because

22:56

what I would judge the success or failure of a UBI

22:58

program on is its ability to help people who

23:00

are in trouble. Um.

23:04

Reaching out to the Yank campaign for some probably

23:06

not there you probably not a lot of people who are on disability,

23:09

who are on Medicare, who are on

23:12

who require food stamps, um, Like,

23:14

those are the people I'm curious to see, Like, does this

23:16

really help them? Does There's a lot of data

23:18

that U b I could help

23:21

people in those positions, But like, I don't. We're

23:23

not gonna learn anything from this. But I think it's

23:25

a reasonably intelligent marketing strategy

23:27

absolutely. I I just you know, I call

23:29

it a stunt. I bring this up to

23:32

transition after the ad break, we're about to take

23:34

UH to talk about the fact that he is

23:37

a social media savvy candidate.

23:39

He is using the Internet in a different way than

23:42

other candidates are or have in the past.

23:44

UH. And that's kind of an example of it. But

23:47

we're gonna get to that in a minute because we've got to talk about

23:49

products and services, because yeah,

23:52

I am so. I

23:54

mean when you said, uh,

23:57

social media, uh that

23:59

that that that got my pants exploding,

24:02

you said ads make double exploding.

24:06

Um, it's more like a friction

24:08

burn. But the yeah,

24:11

lots of friction burns. You guys

24:13

can cut wonderful friction burns. This

24:16

is terrible. These ads

24:18

have made us together

24:30

everything, So don't don't. We're

24:34

back and I now have

24:36

headphones on M and am competently

24:39

recording this podcast again willing

24:42

we realized he had a TV on in the background.

24:44

Oh no, yeah, it's terrible. It's

24:47

all fine. You guys maybe won't even notice because

24:49

Dan was going to edit that out, but

24:51

now that we but now we've mentioned it, so

24:53

maybe he was gonna happen. I feel

24:55

like it's important to mention daniel sacrifices

24:58

for this podcast. Thank you, Dan, Like

25:01

like a seventeen year old boy from Kentucky

25:03

going ashore on Omaha

25:06

Beach on d day nine, Daniel

25:09

is going to have to scrub the sounds

25:11

of the TV in the background out of my podcast

25:14

recording. That's

25:16

the comparison I was going to make too. Thank you.

25:19

Okay, back to how Yang is helping make this

25:21

the worst year ever like a seventeen

25:23

year old boy from Canada. Yang's

25:27

supporters are known online as the Yang

25:30

Gang. Andrew Andrews. God,

25:32

that's our None

25:35

of it works. Go back

25:37

to the time machine noises Yang

25:39

Gang, don't Yang

25:42

Gang in and of itself is

25:44

enough to make this the worst year. I

25:47

just think it's so dumb um

25:50

rhymes, unlike the Trump train. You

25:53

know, you're right, that is out

25:55

of it was weird. Andrew

25:57

andrew all of it all right,

26:00

just keep doing it, oh Trump

26:02

train. I understand.

26:05

As I mentioned, it is undeniable that Andrew

26:07

Yang has done an excellent job harnessing

26:09

social media to gain traction and appeal

26:11

to a wide swath of voters. He's

26:14

made himself into the meme king,

26:17

which again is a really great skill to

26:19

have as an entrepreneur. Uh,

26:21

there's something about it as from a presidential

26:23

candidate that I don't love.

26:26

Um. Sometimes his

26:29

campaign feels gamified, you

26:31

know, like that corporate term

26:34

for applying game design to

26:36

have the situation to make them more appealing. And UM,

26:38

well it feels that way because it is that way. That's what

26:40

he's doing. He comes from the corporate tech world

26:42

and he's taking that into this

26:45

presidential campaign U. Surprisingly, his supporters

26:47

seem to be drawn from all across the political

26:49

spectrum, with crazy memes showing up all

26:52

over the internet, especially on Reddit. I've

26:54

got this one here, Cody. Do you want to describe

26:56

it for us? Oh? Yeah, it's some. It's

26:59

a meme bunch of people's swords, you

27:01

know, meeting the swords in the middle. One

27:03

of the people's Bernie Bros x

27:05

Mega Bros Zoomers that are

27:08

turning eighteen and they're all joining swords together

27:10

to equal the Yang Gangang Gang.

27:13

So that's a nice example of the

27:15

memes sloating around. UM.

27:18

To be fair, there are there are also like a lot of racist

27:20

anti Yang memes coming out and

27:22

that's very ugly. UM. But

27:25

he's very good at branding, which is why he's garnered

27:27

as much support as he has UM. According

27:29

to The Daily Beast, Yang saw a surge

27:31

of new supporters after an appearance on The Joe Rogan

27:33

Experience in February. He's also been on

27:36

Tucker Carlson's show. Uh.

27:38

He's even appeared at a Turning Point

27:40

USA event. Interesting

27:43

U and according to The Virtue, white

27:45

nationalist supporters have begun selectively

27:48

choosing statements from Yang uh

27:50

to support the idea that he wants

27:52

to to stop the decline of the white race.

27:55

UH, something that which

27:57

Yang, the kid of Taiwanese immigrants, grew up

27:59

being vicious bullied. You know, he's

28:01

emphatically disavowing that support. He says,

28:03

I'd announced and disavow hatred, bigotry, racism,

28:06

white nationalism, anti semitism,

28:08

and the alt right in all its many forms, full stop

28:10

for anyone with his agenda. We do not want your support,

28:12

we do not want your votes. You're not welcome in this campaign.

28:15

Cool, but it is unclear why so

28:17

many all right UH types are

28:19

attracted to Yang. It might come from his

28:21

focus on automation in the opioid

28:23

crisis, um, which you know

28:26

can be seen as helping Middle America. I

28:28

can answer that, Um

28:31

yeah, they talk about it a lot.

28:34

So there's there's a chunk of the sort of

28:36

fascist right that, like a lot of them, were very excited

28:38

after Trump won and then have kind of been increasingly

28:41

dejected in the years since when he didn't, you

28:43

know, kill all the Jews or

28:46

any of the other things they hope wasn't explicitly

28:48

doing their Yeah. Um

28:51

so they've they've been I

28:53

don't know that there's a bunch of different terms they'd

28:56

use for it, but like some of them have kind

28:58

of gotten come

29:01

to the understanding like there's no saving

29:03

the world by their standards, which means

29:05

ending the white genocide that they think

29:07

is going on, and there's no political solution,

29:10

so the best thing they can do is get a

29:12

thousand dollars a month into house

29:15

with some friends and play video games until it

29:17

all collapses. Like that really is a big chunk

29:19

of it. Um is these people who

29:21

are just like, well, I might as well get some money. It's

29:24

not it's not quite like black pilling, but it

29:26

is in that I'm just like, well,

29:29

we didn't do it. Yeah,

29:31

And that's it's

29:33

upsetting. I mean, it's like,

29:35

okay, so we have this interesting conversation

29:38

about UBI and all this stuff, and

29:40

in the people that it's getting the most traction with or the

29:42

worst, the very worst of us. Um,

29:45

it's probably like some slightly related even

29:47

of just like because one of his main slogans

29:50

is not right, not left forward, and

29:53

I think them it's like, all right, well let's just like

29:56

funk at all and do whatever crazy thing,

29:58

just sort of like destabilize stuff and

30:00

sort of hoping that shaking

30:02

things up will either lead

30:04

to that collapse or just yeah,

30:07

be all right, Well we're gonna be gamers

30:10

for a thousand bucks a month from now on, we'll

30:14

form our own ethnic state and it will be a

30:16

big house. It was video

30:18

games, and everyone

30:20

will be white. Uh. Other

30:22

than universal basic income,

30:25

Yang is for medicare for all. Like we talked

30:27

about dealing with climate change very

30:29

vaguely though, that's the thing. So

30:32

that's the thing when you're looking at it. It's a lot of stuff

30:34

that he's just generally in alignment

30:36

with liberal policies, but dealing

30:39

with climate change, it's like rejoining

30:42

the Pairs Climate Agreement.

30:44

But okay, what else? Yeah,

30:47

you know, um, And he talks a lot about human centered

30:49

capitalism, the basic ideas

30:52

that the base unit in society should be people

30:54

in human welfare, not money. Um.

30:57

But there's nothing more

30:59

specific. I don't know because really

31:01

what that means, you know, it's it's

31:04

I'd like to see, you know, it's just stuff

31:06

that's like your I mean, I think there's

31:08

a way of looking at ubi where you can be putting

31:11

people in the center, and there's a way of looking at

31:13

UBI where you're putting money in the center, and Yang's

31:15

plan strikes me as putting money

31:17

in the center, especially since it's kind

31:19

of paired with with cuts to the social programs

31:22

that people can use UM and benefit

31:24

from UM. So the focus

31:26

is just that like, oh, these people's problems can

31:28

be solved with money, and it's like, no, there's actually other

31:30

resources that we need that our society

31:33

does provide, although it doesn't provide enough of

31:35

them, and like UBI

31:37

could be part of a reformation of society

31:40

that puts people at the center. But just giving

31:42

them the money isn't isn't the answer,

31:44

yo, Right, like you were

31:46

saying earlier, like okay, but how about access

31:48

to a plan about affordable

31:51

housing, a plan for if

31:54

you're not having a mental healthcare all

31:56

of it healthcare? Yeah, if you're not providing

31:58

these basic needs, Like if you

32:00

have these basic needs met, then you are more likely

32:03

to aspire to greater

32:05

things and like work to you know, you are

32:08

these needs are taken care of. Now I have these other emotional

32:10

needs, now have these spiritual needs, and you sort of like build

32:12

yourself up when he's talking about it, like he doesn't

32:14

want to, like you said, center money. But one

32:17

of the solutions is like money, well, money

32:19

equals anything. It's not food

32:21

necessarily, it's not housing necessarily. Is

32:23

just like you can spend this money on anything,

32:25

because money is a thing that we made

32:28

up, you know, to like people anything.

32:31

Um. So that's that's why

32:33

his approach sort of rubs me the wrong way

32:35

to where it's like, but what are

32:37

we actually doing if you're saying that you want

32:39

to focus on human beings,

32:42

but you're just giving them a thing that

32:44

can pay for like literally

32:47

anything. Um yeah, it

32:49

just doesn't. It doesn't. It doesn't. It doesn't speak

32:51

to what he what

32:53

he wants saying that he wanted to speak

32:55

to you. He's also very vague on

32:57

foreign policy, which isn't surprising

33:00

given his literal zero

33:02

years of experience. Uh. He

33:05

says that America has made mistakes, but

33:07

that we've been a positive force in world

33:09

history, leading to the spread of peace, prosperity,

33:12

and democracy. Um. I

33:15

know, it's just peace

33:17

we spread to Cambodia. It's

33:19

like it's like it's attempt at being a

33:22

just diplomatic

33:24

politicians

33:27

speak, but it's not very good politicians,

33:30

right, is super vague and also, I

33:32

mean it doesn't speak to our current moment at all. No, it

33:34

doesn't. I mean regarding the border, he says that

33:36

there are issues that need to be fixed to provide

33:38

security for Americans and equity in our immigration

33:40

system. Okay, elaborate,

33:44

you know, yeah, you know. And as

33:46

I've said, you know, he does support

33:49

the obvious liberal policies

33:51

l g B, t Q rights, abortion rights,

33:53

campaign finance reform, common

33:55

sense gun reform, all of that. But

33:57

then there's other things that just kind of seems

34:00

silly or not well thought

34:02

out, or just kind of pandering to our social

34:04

media addled brains. Uh.

34:06

For example, this one's fun making

34:09

taxes fun. Currently paying taxes

34:12

as a slog, let's make it a celebration. That's

34:14

from his website. Uh. This is basically

34:16

like a tax day rebrand, which is okay,

34:18

that's there's something to that. But there

34:20

there are added perks of citizens could direct one

34:22

percent of their taxes to a specific project. You

34:25

know, it's fine, but okay,

34:27

Uh, modern time

34:30

banking, which would give you points

34:32

for doing things like volunteering, working

34:34

at fairs, even fixing a neighbor's

34:36

appliance. Uh, that sounds

34:39

not at all like China's social current.

34:43

Yeah, and then you can exchange those points

34:45

for prices, I guess, like the

34:48

website suggests trading in your points

34:50

for tickets to a local ball game or

34:52

a chance to talk to your elected officials. Aren't

34:54

we supposed to be able to talk to them anyway? You

35:00

how to fix? You got to fix seven lawnmowers

35:02

to talk to you? Like,

35:04

wait, what is this? What

35:07

is that's? Because that's that's also that

35:09

speaks to what we've been talking about of like

35:12

you're saying that you get like human

35:15

community points for these acts of things

35:17

and then for that. The example

35:19

of the tickets for a baseball game is weird because it's

35:21

like you get universal basic income, which is

35:23

money which could buy you baseball tickets,

35:26

or you can get your human points

35:29

and then use those to buy baseball

35:31

tickets too. It's weird food, like

35:34

do you get food if you fix a lawnmowers?

35:38

World, we all get baseball tickets. And

35:40

that's beautiful, beautiful,

35:43

it's just so interesting, Like there's elements of it that

35:45

feel like some weird socialist

35:50

thing, but also he's very much

35:52

a capitalist and human centered capitalism,

35:54

and so it's unclear. It's

35:56

like he's reaching

35:59

out for the things that might appeal to people

36:01

on like an instinctual like, oh

36:03

that sounds kind of cool way, but it's

36:05

not substantive, it's not well

36:07

thought out. Yeah, it's

36:10

still yeah, Still I get

36:12

what he's trying to go for of like human centered

36:14

capitalism, like that sounds like,

36:16

oh, well that's better than the other kind, but

36:19

it still seems to center on money,

36:22

right, Yeah, But it's like still trying

36:24

to appeal to people that were maybe Bernie

36:26

supporters while being very

36:28

different from what Bernie is offering,

36:30

you know what I mean? UM,

36:34

And it's it's it's still denying

36:36

I think at a fundamental level the value that

36:39

UM social

36:41

programs aimed at actually helping

36:43

people can have, like like giving

36:45

people something besides UM that

36:48

that aren't treated as a commodity. So when

36:50

you have uh,

36:52

like like state sponsored daycare, which

36:54

many nations in the West half for kids, when

36:57

you have paternity leave for fathers,

36:59

UM in addition into maternity leave which many states

37:01

that's not a monetize herbal thing.

37:04

I guess you could say that like, oh, but if you're getting a thousand

37:06

dollars a month, you don't have to work. But like that

37:08

doesn't go super far with the baby.

37:10

Um, having those things, having

37:13

those things which are not easily

37:16

um priced, having like access

37:18

to mental health care and stuff that you don't have to

37:20

budget for because you know people

37:22

you could again, you could say you could spend you know, six

37:25

d dollars a month from your thousand dollars a month on

37:28

seeing a therapist four times a month. But how many

37:30

people are going to do that when they have rent in food

37:32

bills do? Yeah,

37:36

it's it's just this, It's not that U b I

37:38

is a bad idea. I think you b I might be part

37:41

of a solution to many of the social ills we

37:43

have. But treating it as the center of

37:45

the solution, I think mistakes

37:47

the center of many of the problems. Yeah. I

37:50

agree with you completely to take

37:52

Yeah, I mean you have to. Yeah,

37:55

when you're not pairing it with giving

37:58

people the things they need. Um

38:02

the text thing sounds nice, sounds

38:05

There's one more that Vice reported

38:07

about. I mean, there's lots more. This is another

38:10

weird one. Reduce harm

38:12

to children caused by smartphones a

38:14

plan UH by

38:17

creating a Department of the Attention Economy,

38:19

which would regulate smartphones, social media

38:22

gaming and chat apps. I

38:24

don't know, man, um it's

38:26

all that time is interesting. It's the kind of thing that like you

38:28

want, uh, people to be out

38:30

there talking about like even Yeah, but

38:33

I don't necessarily need it to be a presidential

38:35

platform. Um. But maybe it's good.

38:38

Maybe that's good that we have these conversations

38:40

and we're having you know, he's putting forth

38:42

these things that we're having these conversations. But yeah,

38:45

I I actually don't like I. I don't

38:48

think Andrew Yang has a real chance of winning

38:50

the presidency just looking at his poll numbers,

38:52

and I don't think he has a very comprehensive

38:55

attitude for what's needed in the country.

38:57

I do think it's good that people are talking about

39:00

you be I at least some people as

39:02

as a thing that might actually work as

39:04

opposed to just um it

39:06

being a thing. I read about zines that are printed

39:09

by my friends and handed out a protests. So

39:12

UM, I'm on board with with

39:14

what he's done in regards to that. UM.

39:17

I just I hope that we can arrive

39:20

at kind of a more approach,

39:22

like a more realistic way to institute

39:25

it totally. Uh, We're gonna have

39:27

to take a quick break for you know, products

39:29

and services and zone and so forth, and then yep,

39:34

but then we're gonna come back. And then finished talking

39:36

about the Yang Gang Andrew Andrews

39:40

well

39:44

together everything,

39:48

So don't don't then

39:50

we're back from those ads. There were great, weren't things loved?

39:55

I know and I know you the listeners love ads

39:57

too. Yeah, who doesn't buy up

39:59

some product and stuff? It's my favorite

40:01

part of uh when I'm streaming, Like,

40:04

I hope an ad comes up. I sure, hope I have

40:06

a commercial break right now. Um.

40:09

So, yeah, we left off talking about

40:11

some of his policies. There's one more policy

40:14

I wanted to bring up, and that was his

40:16

policy to closely monitor the mental health

40:18

of White House staff. Uh.

40:21

And this is clearly a direct response

40:23

to our current president.

40:26

And it does make sense to have mental

40:29

health support for people that work on a high

40:31

stress situation and whatnot. But there's a world

40:33

where that's a little bit dangerous.

40:36

I don't know if you're like, you

40:38

know, what if if it's the wrong

40:40

pair of hands that are in the White White

40:42

House that are you know, rooting

40:46

people out, like is there are people gonna get fired

40:48

for having anxiety and depressions. And you

40:50

know, it's like it's

40:53

very easy to pin mental

40:55

health on people

40:59

who are just bad actors. Also

41:01

like and that seems unfair to right

41:04

blaming Yeah, we

41:06

especially now and obviously the president does

41:08

this too, but like blaming terrible

41:11

behavior on mental earliest

41:13

and then also like blaming, yeah, blaming

41:15

mental eliss on like a lot of problems that we have

41:17

and sort of conflating things that don't necessarily

41:20

pair together. Um, and

41:22

just everyone should have it everybody

41:25

for everybody, exactly

41:27

everybody. And even there's a reaction

41:30

because he had talked about um

41:33

couples counseling, um

41:35

where everyone can have yeah,

41:40

and I know, like Megan McCain

41:43

was freaking out about it, like my marriage

41:45

is fine. We if we if we are hunting in trouble, we

41:47

like get drunk, we go shoot guns in the woods

41:49

and or whatever. And um,

41:51

I'm not gonna, I'm not gonna with the government like make me go

41:53

to uh go to couple's counseling

41:56

and all like all the stuff we're talking about. It's

41:58

so weird because like it's not it's

42:01

not mandatory. Everything we're

42:03

talking about. It's like, no, you have if you were a

42:05

human being in this country, you

42:07

have access to this thing that benefits you.

42:09

If you do it. If you don't need it,

42:11

you don't have to do it. Do you

42:14

can and it will help you help all of us. And

42:16

framing it like it's all these things are

42:18

mandatory is just so it's so disingenuous

42:20

and weird. It's it's like me getting

42:23

piste off that elementary schools exist,

42:25

because what are they going to make me go? I don't

42:27

want to go learnt to ten? Trying

42:31

to educational

42:33

destroy the schools, turn them down, coding.

42:35

Oh hey hey, now hey, I'm

42:38

I'm I've been radicalized. You got

42:40

de radicalized, and now I'm radicalized. I'm an

42:42

anti school crusader. Now what

42:46

I can do for you, Robert real quick to de radicalize

42:48

you? No,

42:52

I gotta I can take out my headphones.

42:55

You are using a subscribers left

42:57

and right. I'm kind

42:59

of thinking, though, Hillary,

43:04

there were headlines about that, people wanting

43:06

under run um. I

43:09

think that might take away With Andrew Yang. It

43:11

seems like a nice guy. He's got some

43:13

good um. When

43:16

I like that he's not billionaire,

43:19

I'm glad he's talking about him, he seems to have people's

43:21

best interests at heart. Um,

43:24

I don't think he's qualified for the job.

43:27

I don't even think you can point to his history as

43:29

an entrepreneur to suggest that

43:31

he is a successful leader.

43:33

Like, he's had companies that didn't work out. He

43:35

became the CEO of a company

43:37

that already existed. It coincided

43:40

with the recession, and his

43:42

company happened to take off and he made a good

43:44

amount of money from it. And then he created

43:46

a tech startup that's doing fine, you

43:49

know, which encapsulates a

43:51

lot of the ideas that things that he believes.

43:53

And yeah,

43:56

I mean like to encourage entrepreneurship

43:58

and people to like, you know, innovate,

44:01

and that's cool. But it's not like he's

44:03

a wildly successful leader. He

44:06

seems again affable but maybe annoying

44:09

in the workplace with his gong. Yeah,

44:14

I did not know that. I've seen I've seen him

44:16

both. He's better, okay, well more confident.

44:18

I would love to see that skate

44:20

off between him. No,

44:23

Sophie says, no, no, no, no, never mind.

44:27

I would not love to see that. I love to see

44:31

um. And I don't even know if

44:33

I think I would suggest him a

44:36

cabinet position, you know, like, yeah,

44:39

you know, I I hope. I don't know if

44:41

i'd suggest a coubnet position either. I like

44:43

his attitude towards standardized tests. Yes,

44:45

for Chary with that opinion talks

44:48

to a president at some point. But

44:51

I don't think he would be the most certainly not

44:53

the most qualified person in the country to be the Secretary

44:55

of Education, although apparently

44:57

that doesn't really matter. I mean, yeah,

44:59

comparably like I think, I

45:01

I mean, but if you decide

45:04

that we're going to like try to comprehensively reform

45:06

our social safety net, I can think the

45:08

worst people to have a seat at the table. He could be one

45:10

person who could. Yeah, you know, he's contribute,

45:12

give him some credit. Yeah, but no, I I

45:14

think he's not someone who

45:17

I think is desperately deserves

45:19

to be have a cabinet position. That

45:22

does not strike me as a thing. But

45:24

maybe he will run for other offices

45:26

after this, so he obviously will have gained

45:29

a lot from mayor, shoot,

45:32

from mayor, maybe even governor. We don't care about

45:34

governors like Funckt. Why not give it a shot,

45:36

Arnold Schwartzenegger go

45:39

become the governor of California. You

45:41

can't do worse than Arnold did. Like,

45:43

like, it's totally reasonable thing

45:45

to to go for it. And

45:47

again, I appreciate a lot

45:49

a lot of these conversations are being had. Um,

45:52

he is not the worst offender of

45:54

contributing to the worst year ever is

45:56

I guess may take away.

45:58

I don't even know that like I would. I think some

46:00

a lot of his fans have contributed to that. I

46:03

don't. I haven't seen him do anything I think

46:05

is wrong. He's a guy. I don't think

46:07

he's the best pick for president, with a couple of good

46:09

ideas and some bad ones

46:11

saying what he believes and that's fine.

46:16

The only thing I'd say that he did wrong was suggesting

46:18

he sit down with Shane Gillis. But yeah,

46:21

that was a bad call. That was a bad call. That was

46:23

a bad call. But I understand where it came from. Yeah,

46:25

I mean, he's got a lot of drive

46:27

for for the unity. It's the it's

46:29

it's an offshoot of

46:32

his not right, not left forward, the

46:34

whole thing. I'm just like, no, we all can do it together.

46:37

Um. And that's

46:39

said Andrew Yang. If you're listening and aren't turned

46:41

off by this conversation and would love to have a chat with

46:43

you. And

46:46

uh, you know, you can even

46:48

bring your gong. You can you can bang

46:50

a gong. Cody can make his horrible time

46:52

travel noises um,

46:54

and together we can

46:56

give Daniel an aneurysm.

46:59

Wouldn't that be an You can do it. We can do it.

47:01

We can do it. And you, guys, but only

47:04

with you, Mr Daniearism,

47:06

Danielism, that's all good, Sophie.

47:09

Is he happy with that he's

47:12

doing? I don't want to talk. He's

47:15

happy. He's Daniels

47:18

the head banging and joy

47:20

and yeah, fist

47:23

raised in celebration. Andrew

47:26

Yang, he exists and is running

47:28

for president grabbed. You

47:30

know what I'll say about Andrew Yang, one

47:33

last positive thing. I

47:35

didn't grab a baby by the dick, and he didn't

47:37

grab a woman by the pussy. Nope,

47:41

as as far as I know, has never grabbed

47:43

anybody without consent,

47:46

as far as we know. And that's

47:48

great. That's the low benchmark.

47:50

We now have, really

47:52

slipping by that extremely low bar and

47:55

crawling under a chiant Andrew

47:57

consensual grabbing Yang, that's

47:59

there. We gods,

48:02

very catchy. Yeah, he's getting all sorts

48:04

of good stuff from us today. Alright,

48:07

cool, you guys, Could

48:09

I just say that his families a really cute,

48:12

is it? Yeah? Precious

48:14

though they are color cornated

48:17

outfits and like unlike Beto, I'm like, oh,

48:19

you know, just

48:22

like wonderful. I would love to sit down and have

48:24

dinner with him. Yeah, he seems

48:26

great. There's one other thing I wanted

48:28

to get to, which is my suspicion that

48:32

or more of why the Internet got

48:34

behind him so far, is that yang

48:36

gang rhymes for sure. For

48:38

sure. I think that's a lot

48:40

of it, Like it's a low bar to get somebody

48:42

to just do that retweet um, which

48:44

is a lot of the the activism

48:47

you've seen, And I think people just think it's funny.

48:50

Um. Yeah, it's

48:52

fairly, it's yeah,

48:55

it's way better than Bernie bro way

48:58

better. Yeah. No, nobody wants to identify

49:01

as a Bernie Broke. People want to be on the Trump train,

49:03

which I don't understand, and they also want to be on the Yang

49:05

Gang and we don't have

49:08

h Bernie doesn't have. He never came

49:10

with a good good He's not a nickname

49:13

guy Bernie Sanders. He never came up with

49:15

a good, pithy nickname for his fans.

49:17

Neither has Elizabeth Warren Sanders

49:20

Fanders. Oh Sanders

49:22

fans is noted for

49:24

this shop. Get on the

49:26

phone with Bernie. I would

49:28

love to Warren's quorumzars,

49:31

right, they those

49:34

those angry massogynist Liz lads and everybody's

49:36

mentions fucking Liz lets.

49:39

Uh that does sound

49:41

like an insulting

49:44

lad. We'll hear that by the end

49:46

of the year. Um quorum

49:49

shouldn't be in a nickname. It

49:52

was that that I was hoping

49:54

we would just gloss right over it. But

49:57

no, you got to bring it background warrens

49:59

for him more informed. It's not working.

50:03

Biden Baby

50:05

Biden,

50:07

Sweet little Babies. No, keep

50:09

babies away from Joe Biden. Yeah,

50:12

that's a that's a good, solid, rememberable nickname.

50:14

Keep babies away from Joe Biden. I

50:18

would I gotta say it would be the end

50:20

of the world, but I would kind of love it if the hat

50:23

based competition that occurs in

50:26

is make America great Again versus

50:28

Keith Babies away from Joe Biden Jr.

50:32

Wait, I have one more thing, one

50:35

more thing that's going to make you take

50:38

Young down just a notch. His answer

50:40

to Maga is math, make

50:43

America think hugging.

50:47

Here's here's the thing. Is he just using two

50:50

letters way to second? Wait a second, wait a second?

50:52

Is he making an acronym? Were the

50:54

last two letters of the acronym are

50:57

the first two letters of the

50:59

I believe that's true. You

51:03

are clearly a smart man. You know

51:05

that's not how acronyms work, right,

51:08

That's that's just not how it works.

51:12

Yeah, that's really you just

51:14

make All you gotta do is

51:16

say, make America think hard. Yeah,

51:19

Like, that's an acronym. That's an acronym.

51:21

That's at least something right. It's

51:24

not good, but it's better. Sophie's

51:27

really making us. Look at this photo of Andrew

51:29

Young just devouring a turkey leg, and

51:32

that's

51:37

all right, turkeys are a vegetable. One second,

51:39

I gotta come up with a good acronym. Here, make

51:41

America think for

51:44

the first time, finally,

51:47

would Youth's

51:52

here's the thing about this, all right, And

51:54

here's the thing about the worst year ever that

51:56

we're all going to experience. Don't

52:00

nobody, nobody, no

52:03

matter who you are, if

52:05

you're running for president. Do

52:07

not do an acronym that

52:10

plays off of maga. Just don't do it. Don't

52:12

try to make America it was

52:14

already great, make America, think, make America

52:17

good, good back. You know, like, whatever it is,

52:19

do not do it. We don't like it, Nobody likes

52:21

it. It doesn't work. It's really cringe

52:23

e. It makes you seem

52:26

simple and ineffective, and it's

52:29

just basically basic basic.

52:31

You're crazy, you're desperate. No maga

52:33

pons, no maga, no maga

52:36

puns. Don't try

52:38

to do what Trump does, just without

52:40

being a racist piece of ship, Like,

52:42

don't don't just be like, Okay, well,

52:45

they want somebody who's got a catchy

52:47

acronym and hats with slogans on him,

52:49

and he yells at people and he gives people nicknames.

52:51

So what if I do that but I don't hate Mexicans?

52:53

Is that is that going to get me be president?

52:56

It's like no, no,

52:58

no, those aren't of things,

53:03

especially the nickname thing. Please don't do that. And I

53:05

don't like do the bar back and forth thing with

53:08

him. Yeah, that's what I keep

53:10

seeing more and more and more of, like the candidates

53:12

like tweeting him and being like you're

53:15

there's something people

53:18

see a spike in numbers went

53:20

Trump bullies, and so there

53:22

is a thing where people start

53:25

like, I'm going to pick at him and then I'm

53:27

going to get those likes and I'm going to get him

53:29

to give me a nick kname. You

53:31

stop engaging with that creep in

53:34

that especially Um.

53:36

There are ways to engage with him in ways, obviously

53:38

because you're gonna have to because you're gonna you're trying

53:41

to be the president, so he's not. But don't

53:43

do it like that. Please. There's

53:45

there's one way I want people

53:47

to engage with Trump

53:50

on Twitter if their presidential candidates, and

53:52

I will give my vote to whoever

53:54

does this first, even if it's Joseph Robinette

53:57

Biden and that is slide

53:59

into the press, it's d ms and send

54:01

him a picture your dick. Just

54:04

just send him your send the president

54:06

your dick presidential candidates.

54:09

That is what Robert is sexist.

54:12

What should listen Laurrant, I'm just kidding,

54:14

well, what should Elizabeth her husband's dick? Yeah,

54:17

absolutely, any dick. It doesn't

54:19

have to be your dick, president's

54:22

d M. Send him a dick and I will

54:24

vote for you. Prove it by posting the exchange

54:26

on Twitter, and I'll vote for you. You You will

54:29

have my vote, Kamala Harris, you'll

54:31

have my vote. Biden, You'll

54:33

have my vote. But

54:36

still in he still do it?

54:39

Yeah, send the president,

54:41

Dick picks all the

54:43

heroes, Michael

54:46

Michael, Michael Bennett. Yeah,

54:48

Bennett, get your dick in. There is he out? Here's

54:51

here's a picture of my my my penis,

54:53

Mr President. It's too bad he's

54:57

probably out. I believe he's out. That's

55:00

what a wonderful sup question than I

55:03

would be happy to vote for him. If

55:06

we've got to be more unifying everybody.

55:09

Here's my idea. So here's

55:11

my duke. All right, this

55:13

has been real fun. You can

55:15

check us out online all the social

55:17

media places at Worst Year pod, that's

55:20

the Instagram's, the Twitters, what

55:22

have you. Eventually we'll have a website Worst

55:25

Year Ever dot com. I love

55:27

websites. And then we're online

55:29

too. You can find us on twitters, you

55:31

know what. That's true with our names. I would

55:33

search our names and then uh Twitter,

55:36

they'll probably be linked to this tweet.

55:39

So you'll find us easy. There's no excuses.

55:42

You'll find us easy, and you can keep track of

55:44

our campaign to sexually harass a

55:47

sitting president, which I

55:49

think is really going to set us apart from

55:51

the other podcasts about the election.

55:54

There aren't any other podcasts. There are no other podcasts,

55:56

and if there were, they definitely wouldn't support

55:59

just like grabbing them grabbing the president

56:01

tush

56:05

hashtag grabbed the President's tush

56:09

Honk Honko, Mr President Honka

56:13

Honk. Indeed, everything

56:16

so dull, Everything

56:19

so dull. I

56:23

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