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is quite a day, ladies and gentlemen.

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very 2017 coded. Yeah,

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yeah, yeah. The show old.

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Yeah, we're just, we're trying

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to do normal podcast

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stuff now. So we're taking

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video right now. Because,

0:57

well, two things. Well, I will say

0:59

the easier thing, which is like for

1:01

our first time on video, Tanya and

1:03

I both elected to wear like promo

1:06

shirts. Okay. Well, in

1:08

my defense. Okay, so first of all, let me tell

1:11

you where you can get this video. If you're like,

1:13

I got to watch this. First of all, this is

1:15

the show. Yo, is this racist? Let's back all the way up.

1:17

My name is Tanya Newsom. That's Andrew T. We're

1:19

here with our producer, Kevin Bartelt and a secret fourth

1:22

person. But

1:24

this is the show. It's racist where we eventually get to

1:26

your questions about racism. Thank you so much for your patience

1:28

while we filibuster a little bit and

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direct you to our premium site,

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included in that is some video feed

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info. That's where you can get this. Okay.

1:46

Yep. Now to address your claim

1:49

of both of us wearing promo shirts. Yeah.

1:52

Yes. A join Starfleet

1:54

gets stuck in caves. Emotional

1:57

t-shirt That

1:59

is.. The a promotional sir for my show

2:01

starts record x I am but at this

2:04

point in my life and career. It.

2:06

Is a harder at a so many Star Trek

2:08

t shirts. It. Is how on not where.

2:10

It's. Merger affiliated with Star Trek? Yeah,

2:13

and that seemed weird that I

2:15

was gonna like sift through one

2:17

hundred certs. To. Find one like

2:19

John Doe. An exam shirts clusters it

2:21

your closet is what if they built

2:23

a whole played out of start fights

2:26

hurts yes yeah exactly exactly and I

2:28

into some embracing it. I. Am

2:30

wearing the solidarity of snacks

2:32

tie dyed, Where

2:35

is it says Solitaire to start

2:37

somewhere on it I'd I'd to

2:39

I almost lifted my sort of

2:41

too far south of a specific

2:43

what's your shirt was I have

2:45

a Blue Moon Brewery a T

2:48

shirt from river north Colorado ah

2:50

they gave me a flight of

2:52

Blue Moon which I did know

2:54

there is more than one Blue

2:56

Moon flavor and I had sexist

2:59

sample and hour ago a t

3:01

shirt I liked the it's very

3:03

cotton com fi. Sunday morning

3:05

t shirt vibes and ah it was

3:07

very to a looks com fit in

3:10

with Cr. It's great. It's a

3:12

hazard shirt. Us both have a

3:14

good studio back. From set up

3:16

I have ah visitors to my

3:18

room. this is me. I have

3:20

the intention of setting up soundproofing,

3:24

Ah but I have not got a. Nice.

3:27

So was established were all inserts

3:29

advertising things Number of France has

3:32

about a socialist utopia in space

3:34

in the far future. Andrew are

3:36

very current day mutual aid efforts

3:39

his friends downtown than seven. Ah,

3:41

terrible beer. Yakuza. Horns

3:43

are Auto from Colorado is really

3:46

I really dislike daughter. This is

3:48

why are we doing this. Dislike:

3:51

Blue Moon. I really dislike.

3:54

I. Loved Blue Moon. Ah, I'm

3:56

in college and I don't like it

3:58

as much by Adam. We're still brings

4:00

up on our first date. We are talking

4:03

about beer and she said what's your favorite

4:05

and I said blue Moon and were married

4:07

So damn it I worked so far as.

4:09

Okay gets you a wife. Blue Moon

4:12

as a. Spectator

4:14

than you wise. As

4:19

it as serves as as his death

4:21

rates imperfect promo so if you for

4:23

once exists org as you are not

4:25

less itself for the listener this must

4:27

be huge reveal for the last for

4:30

the watcher a save just and city

4:32

that confused speaks as and for being

4:34

ordinance. Yeah and

4:36

have it it out. A

4:39

new investor are considering eight

4:41

at Angel Investor considering dropping.

4:44

Mad V C. He. Thought

4:47

I rely on applied start of tests

4:49

as she has sunk so far low

4:51

like as you soak so much lower

4:53

in the zoom window. Oh I know,

4:56

picking up a little bit older. Very

4:58

adorable. I'm worried that if I sell

5:00

it any further. Because. This is

5:02

also a very last second birds. He

5:05

added are crazy people with the hundred

5:07

and one introduce a friend animals as

5:10

him about org add coworker more on

5:12

this is this is odd Tina Fondue.

5:15

In. A Summer From the video. Teen

5:17

a fondue is ah attack

5:20

investor a a chihuahua American

5:22

out show a Hoffman assess

5:25

assess says she's like I

5:27

never saw people like me

5:29

and the tax base America.

5:35

As I have I have hurts

5:37

my I've had. I've heard Big

5:39

Fluffy Dog bad as his odds

5:42

zoom with us right now in

5:44

the room. And because we

5:46

didn't plan is very well. There's a.

5:49

Decent. Chance if she moves at all

5:51

about how does get our of fall over

5:53

as a whole fleet us matter in the

5:55

face of tobacco settlement with it or. themselves

5:57

are looking for looks promising map That

6:00

won't happen. Yeah. But she

6:02

also seems aware that there's some imminent danger.

6:04

Yeah. I'm getting that from her

6:06

face. I will say as stepping

6:09

out of character for a second as her father, I

6:11

have done a good job of limiting her screen time.

6:14

That's good. I think this

6:16

is the longest she's ever had a video in

6:18

her face already. Oh, wow. Even before

6:20

recording. Because she never, like,

6:22

yeah, she's so rarely on the screen. I

6:25

also have realizing the blanket on

6:27

her dog bed kind of

6:29

looks like if, like, Cookie Monster had

6:32

been, like, hunted and was made of

6:34

sword rod. Yes,

6:38

it is the Cookie Monster blue. Yeah.

6:41

Stop big, big Sesame

6:44

Street game poachers. Yeah,

6:46

it's real messed up. And

6:49

it's hard to see. Maybe if she moves around, you'll

6:51

see it, but she is wearing her Tina

6:53

Fondue tech fest. So

6:55

I was gonna say, if you're

6:57

just listening on a regular

7:00

podcast, we have also

7:02

discovered that when I, like, raise my voice or talk

7:05

to her or do something very sudden in the room,

7:07

she'll look at the camera. And

7:10

so if my cadence sounds weirder

7:13

than usual, that's why. Because

7:15

you're trying to make her look or not make her

7:17

look. Yeah. She

7:20

didn't do it. This is gonna be a delight for

7:23

listeners. Just us trying to

7:26

get a dog to look at a camera on

7:29

this racism podcast. A

7:35

tiny, silent dog we put on a

7:37

podcast. Yeah, she really isn't even a

7:39

barky dog if she wanted to. She's

7:42

on mute. She's on mute. But

7:44

I mean, she's in the room with you. Yeah.

7:47

This is fantastic. This is quality content. This is

7:49

what you tune in for. So

7:52

thank you. We also

7:54

have been shaking up the order

7:56

of the show, not the order. What am I trying to say? Really?

8:00

the show. The stuff, the release schedule, but

8:02

I was gonna say the content that we're

8:04

permitting. Yeah, just

8:07

straight-up advice. Yeah, it

8:09

feels like 90% of the time anyway,

8:11

our advice boils down to our racism

8:13

stuff, just is more

8:16

how to act right advice. Yeah, be

8:18

normal, be cool, be chill. So we're

8:20

doing that again. This week in

8:23

the sort of protest, we're doing two voicemails

8:25

and one text because you guys love texting

8:27

in three, two, three, three, eight, nine, seven,

8:29

two, two, three, with your questions,

8:31

but you can also call in. The

8:34

worst and best of all worlds happen

8:36

this week is someone sent

8:39

in a voice memo via the text

8:41

message. Wow. I

8:44

say no to that. I say no because as

8:46

an ardent user of voice

8:51

notes, I love the voice note people. I like

8:54

it because it's like easy

8:56

for them in the text to like listen when they

8:58

want. You don't have to ring and

9:00

make people feel like, oh, I'm anxious. I gotta pick up

9:02

the phone. But this is the opposite

9:04

of that. We are a business. We

9:06

are a poorly run business. We

9:11

already have a faulty

9:14

system where Andrew has to like manually go into

9:16

Google voice and sift a bunch of shit and

9:18

put it in a weird folder that neither Kevin

9:21

or I understand. If Andrew leaves, none of us

9:23

will ever know how to get voicemails again. Well,

9:26

Tina's working on an AI solution

9:28

to solve this. Great. Can

9:30

it take my place, please? But

9:33

what that means is

9:35

that our shoddy Swiss family

9:37

Robinson, you know, hobbled together

9:40

systems are very

9:42

near and dear to us. And so to

9:44

shake it up at all by allowing you

9:46

to text in. Yeah, that was huge on

9:48

our part. That was huge. So don't fucking

9:50

push it is what I'm saying. It really

9:52

I'm a little torn because the voice note

9:54

was actually a pretty good one. However,

9:57

for Google voice, technical reasons that I

10:00

I don't understand. I don't think

10:02

like at a technical level we could use

10:05

it without literally like Recording

10:07

from the fucking spike. Yeah output.

10:09

No, I'm doing that to Kevin

10:12

So it's it's not gonna happen but

10:16

We have what Kevin through enough. I'll

10:18

paraphrase it on another episode Okay,

10:21

I'll just get chat GPT to Transcribe

10:24

it. This is the silicon Andrews

10:26

here. I'm going silicon Andrews in

10:28

the house I I have go

10:30

back as much as all all

10:32

my years of talking about how much I hate

10:34

tech just one one nerd in

10:36

a tech fest I'm

10:39

pitching One

10:42

San Jose look in chihuahua Can

10:46

I can I do say one thing that

10:48

happened before which is that we were on

10:50

a walk today and this is this is

10:52

This is also me Going

10:55

back on another thing because as longtime

10:57

listeners to the show will know as

11:00

I fucking hate stand-up comedy And

11:02

I'm not really capable. I'm with you buddy. I'm Proff However

11:06

on our walk today, basically it's spring

11:08

ish. I guess it's spring still almost

11:10

summer in Echo Park so we've been

11:12

walking around Echo Park and there

11:15

are conservatively 1

11:18

billion geese in

11:20

Echo Park and For

11:23

some reason my like just like

11:25

trotting along train of thought multiple

11:27

times this last week has led

11:29

me to a I

11:32

guess I'm just like it's like a hack stand-up

11:34

comedy bit or like an impression

11:37

and it basically is guy

11:39

that thinks geese are named should be called

11:41

honkies and What's

11:45

up with all these honkies Come into my

11:47

park shitting everywhere. All they do is eat

11:49

their white bread and yell at my dog

11:52

That kind of that kind of level

11:55

stuff. I like I feel like

11:57

I can't help it, but it has been in

12:00

a loop in my head and saying it

12:02

on this podcast now like that type

12:04

of I don't even know

12:06

what it is I guess it's just like bad comedy

12:09

so this is what happens when

12:11

you've got an earworm of like a popular song

12:13

your brain is trying to finish the song so you got

12:15

to sing as much of it as you try to sing

12:18

all the way through to the end if you can even

12:20

if you don't know the words so that's what you got

12:22

to do with this bit so that your brain is wrecked.

12:24

I'm gonna do it on stage. Seriously

12:27

I'm like riffing

12:29

to myself on

12:31

a thing I don't like on a premise

12:34

I don't believe in it. You need to

12:36

do a tight hour on Netflix as the

12:38

joke or whatever you gotta

12:40

do to solve the earworm. Well

12:43

I can't wait to see your special. Various

12:46

birds just anger at birds. Also

12:48

this might be an existing bit as far as I know

12:50

I can't think of it and

12:52

I think it's original. Did that

12:55

stop the Beatles? Yeah. Oh

12:58

man I went on

13:01

a long-ass also

13:04

not original rant today but

13:07

or not today yesterday but

13:10

the most boomer thing ever is

13:12

that movie yesterday and imagining

13:15

that if the Beatles came out

13:17

today they would be the biggest

13:19

act in the world. Yeah

13:25

in a world where like the biggest acts in the

13:27

world are like K-pop bands.

13:29

Yeah also in a world where

13:31

like people there are songs about

13:33

like sucking dick and eating ass like you're gonna

13:36

have I want to hold your hands like fuck

13:38

out of here. Wait

13:41

this is your hour I'm sorry.

13:43

This is broasting the film yesterday.

13:46

Being like you want to put I want to hold your

13:48

hand next to WAP? It's just so crazy to

13:50

me. Oh You want to. Pepper

14:00

the negative or know that whatever

14:02

Taylor was dead poet's is all

14:04

over the but it's illicit is

14:06

is so crazy dirty as far

14:09

as assistant. Editors

14:11

reluctant stand up. Our plan on selling.

14:13

I'm not going to get it out

14:16

one at a time of in the

14:18

next. Yeah, get get ready. This is.

14:20

this is me secretly dropping dropping a

14:23

software. The alphabet is bad, by the

14:25

way, but scissors on soundcloud stand up

14:27

as the energy it's giving right now.

14:29

Yeah, Salads bad ideas

14:32

else I do so

14:34

as far as podcasts

14:36

success as. So

14:40

we were having a lot of

14:43

fun and this is Arabia or

14:45

it. Would. Not yet. Still not Reasons

14:47

I our Here's a here's a text. Hi

14:50

yours is racist. My sister in law

14:52

is somewhat gullible with online information and

14:55

sometimes gets into some pseudoscience nonsense. Right

14:57

now she's on above fluoride in the

14:59

water and has a special filter and

15:02

uses special toothpaste. I want to tell

15:04

her she's been duped by the filter

15:06

people. And Florida's fine. Ah, Especially

15:08

because he's about to have a baby

15:11

who could really benefit from Florida and

15:13

water and fluoride toothpaste woods when his

15:15

teeth comments. but I don't know how

15:17

to toss her without alienating her with

15:19

my for well actually bullshit. Help.

15:22

Yeah. I mean this is this

15:24

is very me saw of oh it is You

15:26

want to say I have no no no. I.

15:29

Just as to trusted Soria about the floor as

15:31

part of excels like the my soup and saw

15:33

that the only piece I have but. This

15:36

is where you in that year the well

15:38

actually siblings yeah I see this as me

15:40

as in this is exactly how I alienate

15:42

people at my was also. South

15:46

so we really I don't have a

15:48

solution for the as to what would

15:50

you do straight up the like. This.

15:53

Is not real. Well I

15:55

guess you know what part of part of living

15:57

in L A and working in the entertainment. The

16:00

three I guess. Is.

16:02

You. Know: not expressing how

16:05

much pseudoscience annoys me.

16:08

As. long as it's not hurting

16:10

a person I care about

16:12

chef. So like mostly

16:14

like at sites science you

16:17

know. We've. Talked about this

16:19

and some degree. I think we're talking

16:21

about crystals One time said you know

16:23

couple of people that have satellite. A

16:26

nuff Money on Crystals said. I'm like.

16:30

This is now like it's like a

16:32

serious pay Any like any sculpture you

16:34

are. And how you know

16:37

by. For. The record I am pro

16:39

crystal as as and as a piece of

16:41

nature in my home the same yeah I

16:43

like a potted plants yes is my only

16:46

crystal opinion yeah no I love my i

16:48

think that's it. Exactly like it's sights fine

16:50

but it's also just supplies You know this

16:52

cured by allergies and casa thousand dollars and

16:55

it's just like. A

16:58

system is I was also thing

17:00

about this this week's man this

17:02

a real loses forget all kinds

17:04

of his men aged to just

17:06

too many many. Many years ago at

17:09

my first. Least. Good

17:11

job after they. They're very nice people, but

17:13

there was a lot of the pseudoscience process

17:15

Arms. And. I had a. Time.

17:18

Where I like a dislocated my shoulder

17:21

but separate I think is separated or

17:23

like sprain something else and I was

17:25

like very injured I was like animals

17:27

barring like I I tapped out got

17:29

off the mat our our holy shit

17:31

I know were lost and offs arm.

17:34

Mean it as interim member maybe that's how much

17:36

more hospital but I was like wasn't able to

17:38

be of a german jews might like solar for

17:40

like. A. Months so it's something.

17:42

I could feel something tear in my

17:45

shoulder and there were like bringing I

17:47

said I was I got a lot

17:49

and some sucked into first who's very

17:51

nice person. came over and

17:53

was like has been studying reiki can i try

17:55

and i was like i mean you know the

17:57

ice has a here yet i was like okay

18:00

your, you

18:02

know, Ricky is basically he just would

18:04

he held his hands one

18:06

inch away from my injured shoulder

18:08

and was like concentrating I guess.

18:11

And that was like annoying but fine

18:13

until the ice got there and he

18:16

was like in the way. And I

18:18

was like, Hey man, I just need

18:21

I'm gonna really need some fucking like

18:23

Advil and like a you know, like

18:25

an ice pack right now. Yeah. And

18:28

the fact that you're here doing nothing

18:30

over my shoulder is really quite irritating.

18:33

Now, who was this man to you?

18:37

Just so just a white guy in

18:39

the class. Just a patriot,

18:41

not even a fella, not even a trainer. Yeah,

18:43

not in the eye. Just a guy, just a

18:45

guy. I mean, he was he was a loose

18:47

man. He was

18:50

like one of the more senior students. So

18:52

that was also part of it is like,

18:54

you're, you know, the whole gym is sort

18:56

of configured to like give deference to, you

18:59

know, people see it's very martial

19:01

artsy. And yeah, I was just

19:03

like, I don't want to like, say like no

19:06

to this dude. And I don't

19:08

believe in raky. And honestly,

19:11

honestly, if I did, it probably would have helped or could have

19:13

helped at least. But I was like, but

19:15

like, you know, that's fine. But then

19:18

it's like, dog. Yeah,

19:21

could I just please have some like ice?

19:24

I had a similar raky experience a couple months

19:26

ago where I did my

19:28

first flight in like four or five years, and

19:30

the guy sitting next to me got up and

19:32

was just gone for an hour. And I was

19:35

like, what is happening? And he came back

19:37

and said, the flight attendant said she

19:39

was having shoulder issues. And I asked if I

19:41

could perform raky on her. And she said, Yes.

19:44

Why? Why would he shoulder? What? Yeah.

19:46

Yeah. So the weird thing about it

19:48

is she did walk by, like later

19:51

in the flight and was like, I do feel a

19:53

lot better. Thank you very much. And I was like,

19:55

is she just fucking with him or? Yeah, yeah. your

20:00

body can shift focus and shift

20:02

the painful focus away in

20:04

subconscious ways. That is, uh, that's as

20:06

pseudo scientific as I get is that

20:08

you can find ways to convince

20:11

yourself you're not feeling as much pain. And

20:13

also like a sore shoulder or

20:15

like a repetitive stress injury is

20:18

different than again, whatever the

20:20

fuck happened with my connective tissue or my

20:22

shoulder. Yeah, yeah, yeah. You had a medical

20:24

event. Okay, I haven't

20:27

told the quickest ranking story but then I want to answer

20:29

the question. I love it. We're all,

20:31

this is, I didn't realize what a

20:34

gamble this was because we're all coming out with

20:36

like, no, we live in LA. And

20:39

so the bullshit in Coccasity is high

20:41

out here with this shit. But

20:45

I had a former friend now

20:48

no longer really friends, but she

20:50

was a improviser in Chicago. And

20:53

Caleb moved out here and became like a

20:55

spiritual life coach guru, suddenly

20:57

very allergic to everything. She has like

20:59

a whole thing going on. But she

21:01

started doing Reiki and she very kindly

21:03

offered her friends like free Reiki sessions.

21:05

And so I was like, you know,

21:07

I'm down to like try stuff. I

21:10

don't necessarily whatever. So I wasn't going

21:12

with anything to cure. I was just

21:14

like, Oh, I want to support my

21:16

friend at the Times New like work,

21:18

whatever. And

21:20

she proceeded to, you

21:22

know, do the stuff, put hands over me, whatever,

21:24

whatever. And don't if you have like an example

21:26

of like, if you have evidence of why Reiki

21:29

is real, we don't care. We're

21:31

old, we will either believe in it or we won't, but you

21:34

don't have to come out and defend Reiki. I'm

21:36

perfectly fine to admit that I'm sure it works

21:38

for some people for some reason, I don't understand.

21:40

But anyway, so I go to her

21:42

and she's like, doing the stuff, and

21:44

she's kind of talking to me a little bit. And

21:47

then at the end of it, she's like, Yeah, so

21:49

what I was really getting is like, you know, you

21:51

struggle with some anxiety, blah, blah. Now, mind you, This

21:53

is a woman who at the time, it's known me

21:55

six years. So Like, yeah, it's sort of anxiety. You've

21:57

seen it. I'm

22:01

getting east. I wasn't a sign above ah

22:03

but it's kind of works for you without

22:05

was also like while I now have somewhat

22:07

of a that sucks but the or make

22:09

a new suit. yeah this is. The

22:12

thing that really kills me as she was. Worth it.

22:14

And you know when I was kind of near

22:16

like your arm. Ah, Your throat

22:19

chakra which know about like community send

22:21

on. You. Know what I'm sensing

22:23

was like, internal overwhelmingly, I was getting this

22:25

the ceiling like something was telling me to

22:27

say to. You. Interrupt people a

22:30

lot. Oh My. God. Maybe just

22:32

wait and take a breath. I

22:35

had allows have a great idea

22:37

Personal ass cried for our parking

22:39

garage on that is the greatest

22:41

sketch characters them and legs of

22:43

the as better as incredible As

22:45

nice as it I do yeah

22:47

I decided i i i notice

22:49

about myself as well say to

22:51

for the reminder I will work

22:53

harder at that but I like

22:55

Sam how long has she been

22:57

specific on our now not like

23:00

an interesting than somebody that of

23:02

as a spell cents if that's

23:04

what Mr. Saw babies.

23:06

It started a whole new life just as

23:08

he couldn't. Rose mean I can tell in

23:10

your throat chakra as you cut people off

23:13

and parsing. You

23:15

don't return your shopping cart sense of summer

23:17

on your i am. Very disrespectful

23:20

to the workers. and I'm a i'm

23:22

a Sakara. Even the way you sit

23:24

down like some people might say that

23:26

irritated assess all what it says. Oh

23:30

it as a guess at sell

23:32

for as wild color texture. For.

23:34

This a patron of our minds, so

23:36

I'm happy to your sister that her

23:39

stuff is pseudoscience. The diversity to do is do

23:41

what I did where I was like you know. Normally.

23:44

Be on duty research on the show but

23:46

I was like putting out to have a

23:48

as a semi verified source ever friend who

23:50

works in a health department's. Like. In

23:53

a government agency and was like started

23:55

applied in the water. What's the general

23:57

consensus? That. another friend has another

23:59

life a public service type job

24:01

where they are far more knowledgeable about

24:03

these things than me. And

24:06

as I'm sure all of our listeners know, the flooring

24:08

in the water is not only fine for you, but

24:10

it is good for you. So good for you in

24:12

fact that if you are in like a state like

24:15

Oregon where they don't put it in the water, a

24:17

lot of people advocate for it to be put in

24:19

the water so that people who don't have access to

24:21

good dental

24:23

care can get those dental benefits from it

24:25

because it's far better for you than just

24:27

drinking water without it. So if you don't

24:30

have good dental care, having fluoride in the

24:32

water can really help, which is a thing

24:35

that's kind of tied to our show because it has to do with

24:38

inequities and that often deals along racial

24:40

lines. So tell

24:42

your sister in line that's racist of her. Yeah.

24:45

Like what? Boom. I

24:48

live the plane. Yeah.

24:51

I'm glad you looked up actual information because

24:53

the flooring. Well, I just didn't want to

24:55

be spreading further. Yeah. I

24:58

was like, is the science bullshit? Because I was like, I don't

25:00

know. Is the fluoride bad? Who knows? They told

25:02

us to throw away all our deodorant one year and I just did.

25:04

True. Yeah. It

25:06

is also true. Right. Like

25:09

public policy and like, you know, health

25:11

recommendations and best knowledge is

25:14

constantly evolving and there's new

25:16

information. But the flooring thing,

25:18

I mean, that's like a joke

25:20

in Dr. Strange Love. Like it's

25:23

I just feel like that's like worrying

25:25

about fluoride as a communist plot basically

25:27

has been like a thing since like

25:30

the 40s or 30s

25:32

or whatever the fuck they put in our water in the 50s.

25:35

Like it's just so weird to like

25:37

see, see things like that recycle, I

25:39

guess. Yeah. But,

25:42

but I wonder, uh, listen, this

25:44

is weird. Things like Freaky Friday

25:47

because Tawny's solution is

25:50

the, you know, is this the like the

25:52

classic, you know, is this racist solution? And

25:55

this one might not be possible with this specific

25:58

Example: Because it's like you either have flooring. right

26:00

I? you doubt I'm. But.

26:02

I think like as like a part of

26:04

See It with like against Some of My

26:06

Life More Ah we'll call it. Not.

26:08

Reality based friends out here like I

26:11

try to just get some to do

26:13

Both like just something. Do the thing

26:15

you believe and try not to spend

26:17

like a big percentage of your money

26:19

on it. But. Like fine

26:21

have the allergy crystals but

26:23

also definitely see doctors. Why?

26:25

Yes Yes Yes! To.

26:27

Find one that's harder to lie to

26:29

do. Yeah, you tried to save me

26:32

for going to acupuncture. Yeah.

26:35

And that's that's proven health benefit. I

26:38

actually got stress reducer Like you

26:40

know, peer reviewed studies. You're

26:43

on a tear about Chinese medicine and general with

26:45

your dad and you will laugh. Fuck all this

26:47

site is medicine bullshit and I was like i'm

26:49

going acupuncture your like your need a dog just

26:51

going to the size of. I

26:54

I see, I see. I maybe

26:56

would. Have thought or of

26:58

would have said that more or maybe I

27:00

just was a different times or more about

27:02

like accu pressure. Com or

27:05

like like chiropractic type things.

27:07

Cause. As he wants a riotous put, it is

27:09

also true that they really don't know what the

27:12

fuck is happening and like. A

27:14

like lights and yes it

27:16

does seem to work but

27:18

also. I just I'm also though

27:20

like. Those reasons they say it

27:22

like like the acupuncture practitioner say a

27:24

word. I'm just like. That.

27:27

I know it's not true like like

27:29

see our wedding needles in places by

27:31

likes the like that see business I'm

27:33

just like or hurried set you get

27:36

back heart. Lies. I don't

27:38

on the won't night sweats and asked

27:40

how it's man on the only I

27:42

had i don't ask for other on

27:44

the chinese medicine hair because my dad

27:46

had been told he can't even read

27:49

foods are deciding whether to doctors at

27:51

it was like this his. Dad.

27:54

You cast to basically I think I think he was

27:56

as the time and what. This is very on brand

27:58

for me if you follow the. There's a made

28:00

over the years he was eating too

28:03

much crab. I'm so fucking with his

28:05

cholesterol or something. Or like maybe like.

28:07

Gout. I don't actually know exactly what was

28:09

happening, but apparently I think he was hitting to

28:12

myself a selfish like. It's. Of. Or

28:15

if see my goes get crab may be

28:17

shrimp lever so. It. Makes sense

28:19

that he should cut down on the things,

28:22

but it is like both infantilizing and bonkers

28:24

because he wouldn't eat strawberries when I saw

28:26

him one holiday I do like I was

28:28

a wider like. By. The Chinese

28:30

doctor said no read foods south because the

28:33

my cholesterol and I was a sight. Out

28:36

of essays this as I succeeded. People that

28:39

like it seems, you know people who won't

28:41

eat spinach because of the way it breaks

28:43

down the bible. Am I know he was.

28:45

The plot is last Mile so happy for

28:48

you while saw this way I'm happy No

28:50

longer you fucking candy by the fistful by

28:52

I Eat canvases, cat demonize up in into

28:54

one. Allow this. Yeah, it's yeah. so so

28:57

that's that's why I like this. Fitness is

28:59

it? It's just. As bad as.

29:01

Like tries to portray himself as like the

29:04

hard nosed sides. oh evidence based bad ass.

29:06

I bet he does. the said i. The.

29:09

In the sock is happening in your

29:11

brain. Follow. Color.

29:15

And. Everyone. Whether. It's about

29:17

fluoride or whether or not strawberries are okay

29:19

to eat. Here

29:22

are actually speaking of don't eat strawberries

29:24

from Mexico right now there's a fungus

29:26

on them or something but also verify

29:29

that physically sort out and say was.

29:31

Dear. On fucking research when I

29:33

doctors when I bought in a

29:36

slice. Hell your sister in law.

29:38

It's hard because she already has quote

29:40

done, her research and yards of this

29:43

incorrect pasts. but maybe the angle of

29:45

like you're about to have babies ebay

29:47

these teeth really could use of fluoride?

29:49

Maybe. revisit this new

29:51

be recent scientific so yeah i have to

29:54

i have a couple darker stories that

29:56

are just as and are these people's business

29:58

out of people doing by LA

30:00

shit that I was like, this is

30:02

really bad. This is really really really

30:04

bad. Yeah Genuinely,

30:08

yes. Yeah, the kids are fine,

30:10

but Now the kids

30:12

are fine And with that since Tina Fondue

30:14

did start to doze off there for a minute and I did

30:16

find that to be rude Ma'am at least turn your camera off

30:18

if you're going to sleep during a meeting We're

30:20

gonna take a break and when we come back, we're gonna

30:22

do Back of the

30:25

envelope math one voicemail Okay,

30:35

we're back wait, do you want to do you want

30:37

to beat Tony? No, we're back. I'm just trying to

30:39

finish eating my Justin's

30:41

organic cashew butter cup.

30:44

That was good It's

30:46

really good. The cashew butter really makes it something

30:48

special the dark chalk Dark

30:50

check a lot. I had a

30:52

for breakfast. I had For

30:56

not what I wanted to eat, but I had

30:58

marinated some tofu in within

31:01

a black vinegar and soy sauce

31:03

and sesame oil and the

31:06

last of the ginger that Producers

31:09

egg brought over for me when I had covered when I

31:11

asked for a little bit of ginger and he brought me

31:14

Charitably more ginger than I'd ever seen in

31:16

my house at one time And I

31:19

was just rooting in my fridge looking for what

31:21

to eat and I just started nibbling at the

31:23

tofu And then by the time I was like

31:25

kind of done Try to

31:27

figure it out. I was like I'm full Panda

31:30

bear panda bear vibes. Yeah, I was like, what

31:32

should I eat? What should I eat? I

31:35

guess nothing because I fully just ate like half

31:37

a block of tofu Real

31:41

some real Beer

31:44

like behavior. Yeah. Yeah, I

31:46

was like like like

31:49

what if a man with no object permanence

31:51

opened a refrigerator This

31:56

man is actually a newt. Yeah,

31:58

it was like it was not not great.

32:01

Kevin. I think I'm

32:03

kind of done with naming foods

32:05

like Justin's Cookies. Like I can't

32:08

think of a bunch of examples

32:10

but like- Mary's gone crackers. Yeah.

32:13

Richie's pulp free orange juice. I think we can

32:15

come up with- And mac and cheese. Yeah. I

32:18

think we could like take a break on the

32:20

putting our names in the foods and come

32:23

up with a different name for any type

32:25

of food. It is very

32:27

late 90s health food coded. Yeah.

32:30

That never really went away. Newman started

32:32

it right Paul Newman? Yeah

32:34

but he was a famous person. All these

32:37

people are just hippies in Vermont. Yeah

32:39

I'm thinking of like my college roommate just being like do you see

32:41

these cookies I made? My cookies. Do

32:45

you want to want to Justin's Cookies? This

32:47

is Mark's Red. Wait

32:51

not to go out of further tangent. I love pulp

32:53

so much. What happens to all the pulp? Can you

32:55

just sell a little compressed block of pulp for me?

32:58

Orange juice? Wow. Once

33:00

again you want like a salt like you're a deer

33:02

or a cow but you want it for pulp. Yeah.

33:06

I'm really- I'm a real

33:09

big market for industrial

33:11

food waste apparently. Yeah

33:14

you love a dole whip. Yeah. I

33:18

just love leftover technically edible

33:20

scraps. You love bi-product. Yeah. Yeah

33:22

yeah yeah. Y'all are

33:24

going to keep all your products. I need

33:26

bi-product. Alright wait this is so

33:29

off the rails because while we were on the break Kevin

33:31

was like do you want to talk about the release schedule

33:33

changing? And Andrew's like Kevin says we'll do it at the

33:35

end and then Andrew goes no I'll do it right at

33:37

the top. Then we started it. Yeah.

33:40

We nearly did something else. Various juices. So

33:42

Kevin take the reins. Kevin do it. You're

33:45

the only one sane. We are updating

33:47

our release schedule for the main feed

33:49

where we're going to start releasing these

33:51

episodes every other Wednesday. However Yoke and

33:53

We Live will still be every Friday

33:56

and we're going to be putting out

33:58

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34:00

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34:02

that's our new Release

34:05

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34:08

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34:10

and energized to put energy

34:13

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hang with us all the time too much

34:31

Peanuts eyes were getting droopy until you

34:34

really started pitching hard that you parked right

34:36

up. Hey shark tank, right? She

34:40

loves a pitch Literally

34:46

licking her chops with the prospect

34:49

of So

34:51

about the pods calm. All right Now

34:56

we have to do the racism part

34:58

of the show the titular reason for

35:00

the show existing contractually Here

35:03

here comes the racism. Here we go Hey,

35:06

Tony and Andrew. I was

35:08

listening to another podcast and apparently

35:11

some guy who's an ABC broadcaster

35:14

named the barco Morgan Who

35:16

is really into like cycling and

35:18

fitness? posted a picture of himself

35:21

in bike shorts, which

35:23

is like Pretty

35:25

innocuous and apparently now that he's

35:27

on ABC. There's more eyes on

35:29

him and Now

35:33

there's like outrage about the fact that

35:35

this man is wearing This

35:38

black man is wearing bike shorts

35:40

in public This seems

35:43

like a racism, but I

35:45

was curious what you all thought Didn't

35:48

realize that ABC's viewership was

35:52

Basically Amish Let

35:55

me know you think I Will

35:58

Just say for the record, I don't know. The giveaway

36:00

that the Amish have a problem with. I

36:02

just for now. they sit there like a

36:04

lawyer on a car. Ah, I

36:08

listen to this up again. we

36:10

aren't really do any research but.

36:13

The very first. i'm naive. I click

36:15

on this, but the very first headline

36:17

calls it bold Skate. Yeah.

36:19

Oh. Apparently people are

36:21

unhappy at. Ah, what

36:24

was in his bike shorts? Yeah,

36:26

okay. I mean I'm seeing a picture and that's that's

36:29

a lot to a hold of. A

36:32

Why wouldn't I wouldn't be mad at my

36:34

sister's keeper move As if it's simply not

36:36

into says he professes. It's

36:38

really wide. Yeah, I am also

36:40

like policing white. I mean what

36:43

I want to say, I'm sure

36:45

I don't follow. Either.

36:47

News anchors or life. Where

36:50

I guess mostly newspapers or

36:52

like news anchor news metre

36:54

news I guess that's what

36:56

that is by I'm sure

36:58

like this happens and worse

37:00

to women. A lot.

37:04

But. This

37:06

is quite partial his outside

37:08

as use posting a picture

37:10

is exercise like. A

37:12

sit on my yeah. Yeah. It

37:14

it's it. seems like. Finances

37:18

it is. it targeted like. I just

37:20

don't know enough about. The

37:22

world. But I think it's price or to

37:25

say. Yes, Feals.

37:27

Yeah I also just read that he

37:29

was the anchor that replace Tj. Homes

37:31

are the black encourage said last after

37:33

that a fair that like went viral

37:35

on which I don't really understand the

37:37

details of that whole affair dismember ruins

37:39

interested in it for some reason. Feel

37:43

the recently tins to because it's just

37:45

doesn't feel like a white guy sharing

37:47

a pic like this would would have

37:49

any any one make any comments and

37:51

then keep yeah be like oh good

37:54

heart health. I.

37:56

Did sit article there? was that the New York

37:58

Post thing? or hundred? there was a side people

38:01

blame the lay offs for. Like. Social

38:03

media minders are like like internal Apc

38:05

sources are blaming the fact that there's

38:07

not enough like social media marks in

38:10

the company anymore as they all got

38:12

like. Laid. Off which is like

38:14

such a weird like not defense of

38:16

this person doing something. Actually

38:19

harmless. Lights as being

38:21

like ah someone if we had like

38:23

a bigger like. I

38:25

don't know. Purity Department essentially.

38:28

ah, a player like a

38:30

hidden ah Abstinence Narc squad.

38:32

It's like it's it's it's

38:35

really like yeah. kind of

38:37

kind of bizarre and unpleasant.

38:39

said. This is where this

38:41

is going. It does feel

38:44

like. I mean

38:46

parsley. It's all that like lights. Anti.

38:49

Sex and Sexuality, massage, the

38:51

and homophobia is all really

38:53

like loud at these days.

38:57

I'll also okay. I feel like

38:59

so much of like like people

39:02

are like it's coming back. I'm

39:04

which. I think it's this weird thing

39:07

of like. These. Are the people

39:09

I genuinely thought racism was over. What

39:11

Obama gonna lie right? right? Yeah right.

39:13

These articles the grew up largely of

39:15

the eighties and nineties who were children

39:17

and then who were told all back

39:19

as a day your parents. We knew

39:21

that time when racism was really bad.

39:23

Look at his mind, the white and

39:25

then they are up in their life.

39:27

You know. Little. Bubbles and Enclaves

39:29

and were like it's gone, it's fixed. Yeah,

39:32

we did it, and now they're like it's

39:34

coming back and we're all just like. Know.

39:36

You do on looking for it now

39:38

we are seeing it and also the

39:40

who are louder because the and under.

39:43

The internet, And the presidency

39:45

and and all that stuff.

39:47

Yeah, there's Saudi minority cel.

39:50

But. Yeah. Yeah, I guess

39:52

it's life. And. it's just ebbs

39:54

and flows with a normal normal amount

39:56

ice at the spice yeah to sing

39:58

and decide Yeah, of

40:01

course, it's somehow racist Yeah,

40:05

yeah. Yeah, it definitely doesn't see

40:07

I just can't put my finger

40:09

on it, but uh, yeah, it feels weird, too

40:13

It feels very weird. It feels very like why

40:15

are you policing this man's body? but good point

40:17

Andrew that I'm sure this happens to women anchors

40:19

a Thousand. Yeah, sure. Yeah

40:21

sure There's been like a

40:23

million pics of you know women anchors that

40:26

the net decided were dressed to quote

40:28

provocatively or something Like that so

40:30

I guess mostly it doesn't affect

40:34

white men Right. Yeah,

40:37

and probably so rarely affects men that that's

40:39

why this is news. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, so

40:41

I guess it's all part of this same

40:45

disgusting brew Just

40:47

like a blue moon beer leave my

40:50

drink alone That's

40:53

okay Kevin anybody have to chop

40:55

up half a fruit and stick in it. It's

40:57

not doing great on its own One

41:00

thing I will say and I think it's

41:03

because the bars generally recognize well, it's also

41:05

like bar oranges I don't know

41:07

why are my are some like oh,

41:10

I was gonna say I I Maybe

41:14

maybe it's just the like contrast of it every

41:16

time I have a blue moon with the orange

41:18

slice in it I I

41:20

do think man this

41:22

would have been this orange would have been so good Yeah It

41:33

does it does really sound like this whole episode if

41:35

you read between the lights that sound like I need

41:37

some vitamin C Gout

41:41

pod. All right, Mike Justin's

41:44

is getting warm and

41:46

melty so I would like to go. Yeah But

41:49

yeah, so we will see you on the

41:51

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41:54

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41:56

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41:59

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42:01

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42:04

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