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lot with live a lot of growing up. I
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owe a lot of it to
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my girlfriend and just taking the
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time to you know weekend to
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myself and just. Grow
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from the past and like accepting
1:03
things and then. Not.
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Only that, but. Just like
1:07
getting back into like what I Know
1:10
How to Do burst which is just
1:12
making music and like rights of all
1:14
my life. I think that's the best
1:16
thing for me as you in a
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studio like stays, spending time with friends
1:20
and. Just making sure
1:22
that. And. Have a real
1:24
relationships in my life and
1:27
real friendships and. Ah,
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I'm saying close my family I I
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got a new puppy in a valley
1:33
change my life hobbies do and meaning
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yeah I hadn't had one dog in
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the seem like he was on a
1:39
little lonely and like always wanted to
1:41
play and like now have a second
1:43
dog and so like. Up
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seven. The morning everyday just what are
1:48
we doing? The dogs cry and I'll say
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I'll take her out and then like start
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system of like all these things that you
1:54
need to do to take care to dogs
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instead of one. To
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lot harder And if you the guy
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have children I you do the I
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really do. They count on you and
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so would you say that the past
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relationships that exists in your life were.
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On. Lc only back. What What? Wow would
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you categorize I'm not I'm in all
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releases of i had my life have
2:16
been would they were but I think
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like with this relationship I am and
2:20
now I think I'm just a stronger
2:22
person. I feel like we take our
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lives together Me we lived together and
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making that decision was also really great
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decision for him because I need to
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some I need someone to my life
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I can combat life with and in
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own be there for each other, our
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times and. I
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think part of it's maturing butts. Yeah
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I'd a lot of like. Metronome
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to slake feelings. I can accept myself
2:48
for a long time and I feel
2:50
very comfortable with. Ah, telling my girlfriend
2:52
how I feel and we dislike Sir
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So much more lives together so there's
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like no bullshit li all the bullshit
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caught because you don't get a spend
3:00
of the second to yourself in I
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mean when you live with someone you
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feel everything in a real way and
3:06
you have to talk through it And
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so I think it took for me
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to like take that step both moving.
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Oh and my girlfriend for me to
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seal those things and like really. Ah,
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I'm you know? Cause. they give
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you are. Like. Say you're doing some of
3:21
where you are living with on the know when
3:23
you spend time without them that's when you're sort
3:25
of thing to self about like all the issues
3:27
going on with your life whereas lucky you're in
3:29
it you're in it at all times when you
3:31
live at the person and you can talk to
3:33
them about it because view of nowhere else to
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run. If anything I'm going us I know I.
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Call. My mom and I'll be upset about something but then I
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go back inside and then. I'm. Like
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fuck side. Seal. That
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I really feel this way. And Mike's ah I'm
3:47
does really talking through things with her has helped
3:49
me become a better person. You know and really
3:51
can't run from your feelings when you live with
3:53
someone? No, not at all. And so you you
3:55
really think about them a lot more To this.
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i'm just like an introvert and in
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a way that I keep everything bottled
4:02
up and like held down But
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now I feel like she just text me right now She
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sent me a picture of our dogs But
4:14
yeah, man, it's just a
4:16
really real relationship and I
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don't know it's so authentic and just
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Perfect, you know How do you
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meet we met on Halloween night
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and how I how I knew
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that it was perfect Was because I was
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wearing a Beetlejuice costume and she still looked
4:34
me in my eyes and said I remember
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when we met for 15 minutes
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like a few months ago and Like
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I've known I've known it was you I knew there
4:45
was a spark there But I wanted
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to like see you again and like we really
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Just chopped it up and and like how to
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spark on Halloween and now it's like in in
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the moment in that conversation with her And then
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I took a step back and I realized I
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was wearing a fucking Beetlejuice costume And I had
5:01
green hair and moss on my face and stuff
5:03
like that I'm like and we're connecting right now
5:05
and she knows what I look like underneath all
5:08
of this and I'm just it made
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me like feel like it was so surreal because
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I just realized how stupid I
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looked and like How how real
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she kept it with me just made me know that
5:19
there was a real connection there So you had met
5:21
before Halloween night, but then you remit on Halloween. Yeah,
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so we Met for
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a few minutes when I had a 4th of July
5:27
party and I
5:30
was just being a dork. I was just showing
5:32
her like my snakes in my room and just
5:34
stuff like that because I like
5:38
a big one-story house and I like
5:40
I don't know I always run away when I
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had parties and I would just go to my room and
5:44
like hang
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out with my dog and stuff like that and like have
5:49
like a few of my friends in the room and my
5:53
best friend's ex-girlfriend is my
5:56
girlfriend's best friend and She
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introduced And she's the one that
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like really saw that there was a spark between us
6:04
and Yeah,
6:07
I owe her a lot for you
6:10
know introducing us Wild
6:13
right? Yeah Yeah,
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would you say this is the first time you've been in love
6:18
this is like I think this
6:20
is the first time I've been in love like for
6:22
real like been fully a hundred percent and then no
6:24
questions asked What makes this
6:26
relationship different than other relationships? I
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think just the authenticity of how Well
6:34
and organic that it worked out. I think we
6:36
both gave each other that space. We didn't rush
6:38
into anything We both knew that there was something
6:40
there and we wanted to make sure that we
6:43
were Safeguarding our
6:45
heart as we were getting to know each other
6:48
We spent like six months just getting to
6:50
know each other and just hanging out and
6:52
like doing little things together and
6:55
I think by building a relationship from
6:57
the ground up before you like Ask
7:00
somebody like will you be my girlfriend was something
7:02
that was really healthy for us and I
7:05
think taking that time is what made all the difference
7:07
in the world How soon did you
7:10
guys move in with we moved
7:12
in after about six months of
7:14
dating? That's good. It's pretty fast
7:16
though Yeah, I mean you were
7:18
one day. I knew my boyfriend Like
7:21
you move with your boyfriend in one
7:23
day. No, maybe six six days. Yeah,
7:25
see, you know Yeah,
7:30
so it took us a while but tonight I
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lived with a few of my roommates and then the
7:35
next house I lived with one of my roommates and
7:39
I hated the house and I
7:42
wanted to move into a new place and We
7:46
were already just so in it together we
7:48
were spending like at least six days of the week
7:50
She's like, you know, I'd have to go like home
7:52
and see my family sometimes right? I'm like, oh,
7:55
yeah Like you can go do
7:57
that like you whenever you want like, okay, and
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then it ended up being a thing where I would go
8:01
and see her family with her and I
8:03
became friends with her
8:05
dog and her sister lives next door with
8:07
three kids and then the
8:10
kids just really love me and look up to
8:12
me and so she got to see how I
8:14
was with other kids and then they
8:17
became like huge fans of my music which is
8:19
like all I could ask for and more like
8:21
they're more hyped about
8:23
my release than like anyone.
8:26
It's actually so like
8:28
cute to me because having that relationship
8:30
with her niece and nephew is just
8:32
everything and more to me. Really
8:35
special. Right? It's giving family.
8:37
It is. No, she grew
8:39
up in Manhattan Beach. It's just a really nice
8:41
sweet family and they do
8:43
everything together and like if there's something
8:45
going on that they think that
8:47
Kiara can like make it out there for.
8:50
Love makes its way into this music though,
8:52
right? Like always. I mean obviously outside of
8:54
the fact that it's called Love Bites but
8:56
like it really it's woven
8:58
throughout the thing. Right. It's a completely
9:00
woven throughout the whole EP. It's supposed
9:03
to be what love
9:05
is just told into four different
9:07
like chapters of a relationship and
9:10
giving you just some different insight and
9:12
some different wordplay
9:14
and some different you know sounds
9:18
from me. I wanted to try new things
9:20
and yeah.
9:22
It took my time and I feel like I really
9:24
accomplished that. What does it mean to
9:26
take time? Like how long did these four songs take? These
9:29
four songs took about seven
9:31
months. I finished them last year but
9:34
doing the preparation work for putting out
9:36
the EP took a really long time
9:38
and yeah.
9:41
We felt like coming back in the beginning of
9:43
the year is a really strong way to like
9:46
put your foot down and so
9:49
we were trying to kind of put it all
9:51
together before the end of last year but then
9:53
that didn't make sense so we kind of held
9:55
on to it for a little bit longer and
9:57
we're like yeah let's start in. February
10:00
and then kind of make our way and
10:02
put it out in April and we
10:05
ended up putting out the EP on my
10:07
birthday. So it's going to be dropping in
10:09
a week from today. Pretty
10:11
cool. Pretty cool. How
10:13
many songs did you cut before you get to four or did you
10:15
just record four? I've recorded
10:17
so much music in the last couple of years. This
10:20
is honestly and I love
10:22
love bites. This is a warm up. This
10:24
is just me like getting the oven started and
10:27
just showing people that there's
10:30
a lot more to me than people
10:32
realize that I don't
10:35
like to stay in one place with music
10:37
or in life like I want to make
10:40
as much music as possible. Try as many
10:42
new things as possible and
10:44
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Do you ever wonder what the public thinks of you or like
11:24
what their perception is of you? Yeah
11:27
I do all the time because I have no
11:29
fucking clue. Like I can't tell if they love
11:31
me, if they hate me, if they're like this
11:33
guy's a little weird, this guy dresses weird. I
11:35
have no clue and I
11:37
never will. Like the only thing
11:40
I really get is like an
11:42
honest in-person reaction because either they
11:45
laugh or they like are really genuinely
11:47
freaked out. Like they're like holy shit,
11:50
like you're a real person. And
11:53
it blows my mind. I'm just like
11:55
interested in terms of like You
11:57
do fashion, you make rock music. The
12:00
there is no real public perception of you because
12:02
you can is seeping in as you go, right?
12:04
Idea. The I know more based
12:06
on your aesthetic in the very. Mainly
12:09
because you give people glimpses of your
12:11
life and people know they don't fully
12:14
know you know and arab population only
12:16
is getting this li more acidic idea
12:18
of you is earning yeah and I
12:20
like to be pretty polished and I'm
12:23
also my biggest gatekeeper in a way
12:25
that people should know all about me
12:27
but I'm also scared because of the
12:30
said that I have gone through like
12:32
I spent years going in and I
12:34
tried to make people understand my personality
12:36
and then I coming out. Same for.
12:39
An in our people those friends are
12:41
weird or this is I and then
12:43
I mean I look back now and
12:45
keep mine. I agree like this
12:47
sit in that I'm like holy fuck I
12:49
pay believe I posted that like that sobbed
12:52
anything from Slut anything before Twenty Twenty One
12:54
like any their posts on Sex or I'll
12:56
Kill I can even look at and people
12:58
just repost it for fun and I'm like
13:01
oh my god and when I see across
13:03
I for a pigeon my comment cause actively
13:05
people saw this year but without that you
13:07
probably wouldn't be where you are exactly know
13:10
I know like I'll. Say
13:12
I had to do it in L A had to
13:14
read answered to make it to where I am today
13:16
and I I. You know you have
13:18
to look at it with low that a grace
13:20
and feeling I you know you do what she
13:22
did said that was also what it was at
13:24
the time and I just kind of evolved with
13:27
the app them with myself and. Like.
13:29
Try to keep it a bug but at
13:31
the same time people just don't know me
13:34
on a deeper level and I'm I'm not
13:36
sure if us me protecting myself too much
13:38
earth that's own. To.
13:41
See me not wanting to share
13:43
my personality as much that everyone
13:45
anymore. You know I'd like to
13:48
give people doses and I'm
13:50
in our just make sure that
13:52
I like to ski Must heart
13:55
safe and ah. See.
13:57
Like she put too much of yourself out.
14:00
Like People has ridiculed me for
14:02
my personality and and like or
14:05
up. So. It's made me like.
14:07
More scared to do like talking
14:09
videos or like going on lives
14:11
stuff like that. The.
14:14
Yeah, I like to keep a short sweet. For.
14:16
Maybe there's something you that specially when
14:18
you're releasing isa he can speak to
14:21
your. he's exactly. I think music's the
14:23
best way that. I. Can express
14:25
myself and I really leave it
14:27
on the table. When it comes
14:29
to music ends, you can really
14:32
tell my personality through it. And.
14:34
It's. In. Our ah. Yeah.
14:38
I think more people after like see
14:40
interviews like this to really understand me
14:42
more because there's so much more to
14:44
me than just the music and. I'm.
14:49
Not have said too much. So like
14:51
I I really tried a given my
14:53
all in that place and that place
14:56
alone. Would it's also
14:58
pleased that you kind of anybody or is
15:00
it fair to see the your plane was
15:02
always music or. Did he
15:04
really kind of fall into a by chance. I
15:08
would say there's a little bit of both because. When.
15:11
I lived in Stockton. Music
15:13
wasn't even are a question
15:15
because. I. Never knew at
15:17
a major, never knew how to have
15:20
access to people our producers are writers
15:22
or anything to do with music in
15:24
general. And. As
15:27
a sound my way into Allah I'd I knew
15:29
that I wanted to make music I just didn't
15:31
know how and I always thought it was just
15:33
like this foreign thing that. Like. You
15:36
just couldn't get your hands on. I always
15:38
thought of something that's been. Like.
15:42
I. don't even ah to put it because
15:44
there was just not many black people in
15:46
northern california that made music and it really
15:48
not have access to it and so when
15:50
i got sell a i wanted to figure
15:52
it out and i wanted to find a
15:55
way to make music because i knew i
15:57
had is a me i just never knew
15:59
how to go through
16:01
with the process. And when I started to
16:04
figure out how I can have access
16:06
to these people, I just
16:09
went full force. And as soon as I
16:11
did my first studio session, it was from
16:13
one to like 30 sessions
16:17
all within like two months. And yeah,
16:20
I just hit the
16:22
ground running as soon as I figured out
16:24
how to make music, honestly. But it means
16:26
something different today than before, right? Yeah,
16:30
no, there's there's so much more evolution in
16:32
the music. Just
16:34
over time, I feel like I'm growing into it
16:36
and I'm maturing and I'm saying a lot more
16:38
real things and I'm going
16:40
out more real topics. And
16:44
not that my first album wasn't real, because
16:46
it was very real to me, but I think it's
16:49
getting more and more real. And I'm
16:52
seeing what I can do, how I can stretch my
16:54
vocals, how I can, I'm trying to
16:56
figure out a scream, I'm trying to figure out how
16:59
to hit the falsetto that I was afraid to do
17:01
in the first album. I'm trying
17:03
to do it all now. Real rock. Real rock.
17:06
Confidence and comfort breeds all this, no? Yeah,
17:09
no. And honestly, you can already
17:12
start to tell that it's getting more
17:15
and more confident as we go. And
17:18
yeah, there's just something that just
17:21
comes out of me when I work and when
17:23
I sing in the studio, because I'll be like,
17:25
kind of mumbling it as I'm like in the
17:27
room, writing it. And like, they're like,
17:29
okay, cool, we don't know how this is gonna sound. Because
17:32
I'm just like afraid of seeing in front of people. But
17:34
when I'm in front of a mic and I get the
17:36
chance to really listen to myself in the headphones, I just
17:38
lock it and I become a different person. Are
17:41
you like recording? And like, are you looking at
17:43
anything? Is it black? What do you like what's
17:45
around? I know, like people like
17:47
will record in like total black, like dark
17:49
rooms. Oh, yes, I record in total darkness.
17:51
I don't like them being light because I
17:54
think it's too distracting. Yeah. And I just like
17:56
I go in there, I bring a water and
18:00
I bring my phone. I
18:02
like it dark though. Like when it's too bright,
18:05
you know, I like to close my eyes too.
18:09
Just being able to just tap in with yourself and the
18:11
only thing that you can think about is what you are
18:13
doing. I think that's the best way
18:15
to get it done because it's
18:20
hard to not think about those things when
18:22
you're in the moment making music.
18:24
You have to really put some
18:26
focus into it. Otherwise you're not going to get the product
18:29
that you want. So yeah, it's
18:32
true. I do make music in the dark.
18:34
Funny that you said that. It's really common
18:36
and it like cuts that sense. Really? It's
18:39
the whole thing, yeah. Cool. I
18:41
fuck with that. See, I'm right there with you
18:43
guys. It's working. It's working. It is. I
18:46
know you're probably interested in this but are you, you are trying to
18:48
master scream singing? Yeah. So
18:50
I'm trying to figure out how to
18:52
scream a little bit more and
18:54
more. The thing is, it's so
18:56
tough to do live that I'm
18:58
making sure there's special moments for
19:00
it and everything. I've
19:03
been making more friends with the
19:06
heavier punk artists just to try
19:08
to learn from them as well.
19:11
I'm really close to this band
19:13
called Palais Royale. They're
19:17
really good. They just made a
19:19
song about like six
19:21
months ago and it's the coolest
19:24
song I've fucking made. It's
19:26
just like straight, heavy, mysterious.
19:29
The lyrics are fucking all over
19:31
the place and like in that studio
19:33
session they taught me how to scream.
19:35
Ever since then I'm just like, I
19:38
love it. Like I want to try this. I want to try
19:40
this on everything. So I've been trying
19:42
a little bit more. Not that it's like so
19:45
crazy. But it is fun,
19:47
I will say. You just got to send it.
19:49
I remember Jaden told me when we were doing
19:52
Downfalls High, he's just like, you just got to
19:54
scream. Just go in there and scream a couple
19:56
of times. See what happens. And I was
19:58
like, period. But there is an artist
20:00
screaming. Singing though there's a difference between
20:03
screaming and then like Corey Taylor screams
20:05
right from Slipknot Screams
20:07
like Oliver Sykes is like a real
20:09
screamer from bring me the horizon like
20:11
that takes talent. That's fucking talent Yeah,
20:14
no, I know that he's brilliant. I
20:16
love maybe the horizon. Yeah Yeah,
20:19
man I just want to work with more and more
20:21
rock artists because I think like taking
20:23
those little bits of learning stuff from them Really
20:27
goes a long way. Also. I can't
20:29
say who but I just worked with my
20:31
favorite artist and That
20:34
man screams like nothing. I've ever heard before
20:42
Can you guess who I'm trying to think you're trying to
20:44
think I Know
20:46
you use a clue Can
20:48
I give you a clue? Shit
20:53
I can't give you a clue that giving it away Um
20:58
He was really big In
21:01
the 2010s and he's even bigger now Man
21:07
any screams like crazy For
21:12
me he's he's the pop-punk Hero
21:15
like he is the fucking goat.
21:17
I feel like when people are bailing out
21:19
of pop-punk you're sticking with it. Hey Yeah,
21:22
I'm trying to like figure out more How
21:26
much more alternative I can make it because I
21:28
really want to make Like
21:31
rock music you just stay consistent with
21:33
it because everybody's bailed on it Look
21:35
at everybody who thought they were pop-punk rock stars and
21:38
now where the fuck are they? Making
21:41
pop records or rap records
21:43
or really? Yeah. Yeah.
21:45
I think there's such a heart to Punk
21:48
music and the stuff that you can say in it And
21:51
like just the extensions that you can go
21:53
because I I'm trying some new stuff in
21:55
punk, but I've been really trying to Make
21:59
more rock music because I love
22:01
the heavy shit. I love how
22:03
slow and heavy it is at the same time and There's
22:08
like that there's just so much more you can
22:10
do with a guitar and some drums without
22:13
it. It's so much more tough. I've
22:15
made Maybe two or
22:17
three pop songs Hate
22:20
doing it Hate doing
22:22
it But some of the songs
22:24
on this EP do lean a little
22:26
pop with a do that song structure
22:28
could be pop But the Sonics could
22:30
be punk rock rock. Yeah for
22:32
sure There I
22:34
think there's a pocket in pop music
22:37
that I love to make which is kind of like
22:39
Electronic dance rock pop and
22:42
that's what love bites is. Yeah that reminded me of
22:44
like Cobra Starship I couldn't even
22:47
I tried so hard to think of something that
22:49
it reminded me of and I was like fuck
22:51
It reminds me of nothing and that's why I
22:53
love it because it stands out in such a
22:55
like unique way that I've never
22:57
written any song before and I'm trying to
22:59
make more music like it, but
23:01
it's such a Crazy pocket of
23:04
different things together. It's since it's like
23:06
there's a little bit of EDM in
23:08
there There's a little bit of rock
23:10
in the and the straight beats taken
23:12
from old disco music There's
23:15
a little bit of like the newer kind
23:17
of how they make disco pop nowadays in
23:20
there as well, and then there's the lyrical
23:22
twists on how I kind of Turn
23:25
every song is just I like to add
23:27
a little bit of like my own like
23:29
swagger and edge to it Yeah, we talked
23:31
about hickies or like love bites like it's
23:33
felt it's kind of a it's
23:36
kind of a thing where it's a like
23:38
almost a double entendre or a triple entendre
23:40
where love bites in the way
23:42
that Love
23:45
should be sweet, but also intense, you
23:47
know and It's
23:52
also in a sense where it's a hickey and it's
23:54
also in a sense where Love
23:57
can bite you in the ass if you let it
24:00
And, you know, I
24:02
think the intensity of just
24:06
like the title itself really
24:09
like brought me into it. I was like, love
24:12
can bite, you know, love can really bite you.
24:15
But it can be in a good way too, you know,
24:18
if someone leaves a hickey on you, you'll
24:20
remember that. And if
24:22
someone leaves a mark on you, you'll
24:24
remember that. And if someone's loving
24:27
you with their full intensity and really
24:29
giving you their all and leaving nothing
24:32
out like nothing else, I
24:34
think that's something that really stands out in a relationship.
24:36
You gotta give it your all. You gotta pour
24:39
your love into somebody. And it
24:41
can bite you in the ass, you know, there'll be tough
24:44
days, but you're gonna have even better days. And
24:47
on love, buddy, you said you can make her do what
24:49
twice? Make
24:51
her come twice. Like make her
24:54
come over to my house once or twice. Yeah.
24:56
Okay. Got it. What's
24:58
it like writing lyrics like that? Because I feel
25:01
like when your first album came out, you would
25:03
never put that in a lyric. Oh, no, no,
25:05
I wouldn't. I did a backflip when I wrote
25:07
that lyric. An actual backflip?
25:09
No, but like in my head,
25:11
I was doing backflips. I was like, holy
25:13
shit, I just wrote the craziest lyric that
25:15
I could have possibly made. And
25:19
after I made that song, I remember
25:21
my team telling me, I really
25:23
love the song, but I think you should change this
25:26
lyric. And I said, that's it. That's
25:28
the lyric right there. This is what's gonna take
25:30
people by surprise. Because they asked you to change it? That's how you knew.
25:32
Yeah, that's how I knew it was the one. Makes sense. That's rock and
25:34
roll. That is rock and
25:36
roll. You've gotta be able to say
25:38
one or two crazy things every once in a while.
25:41
Otherwise, you're keeping a PG. It's true.
25:43
You know, that's about maturing. You know, you
25:45
keep it a fuck with these people. And
25:49
people respect you for it. Am
25:52
I wrong? I mean, no. No,
25:54
I mean, I was in the song and that's the line that
25:57
stuck out to me. There you go. So, thank
25:59
God you kept it in. Yeah,
26:02
yeah, I
26:04
wanted to give people a little bit
26:06
of that vulgar honest edge because who
26:09
am I to leave things
26:11
out of a song that actually
26:13
happened? Hell
26:15
yeah. Oh
26:20
man, I have
26:22
so many things to say. I'm sweating. By
26:26
the way, you listen to the EP Love Bites. It's on Amazon Music.
26:29
We're going to put a link below for you. It's
26:31
nice to hang out with a fellow Taurus. You
26:33
give Taurus energy, eh? Yeah,
26:36
I am as Taurus as they come and
26:38
I'm also at Cancer Rising. Oh really? Yeah,
26:40
so there's that emotional side to me that's
26:43
unavoidable and then there's the Taurus
26:45
energy in me that's very
26:48
stubborn and likes to make sure
26:51
I'm getting things done
26:53
and that I'm competitive. All of the competitive
26:56
nature that's in me and the drive
26:58
comes from being a Taurus. It's crazy
27:00
you're only 21. I
27:02
know. That's so weird. That's
27:04
not weird. You're 22 next week,
27:06
okay? I'm getting older guys.
27:09
But turning 21 was a big
27:11
turning page for me because I always
27:15
wanted to be 21 and I never
27:17
had the balls to get a fake
27:19
ID. So I would go to clubs
27:21
and I would just be like, yeah, I'm 19 and it
27:23
worked every time. What?
27:29
Every time. It never got turned on. Only
27:31
once when I was at my sister's college
27:34
and I used my brother-in-law's ID. They're
27:37
like, um, I'm like, you know what? You're right.
27:39
I'm going to go. I'm
27:41
just going to walk away. I'm not
27:43
going to fight this battle. How old
27:45
is your girlfriend? My girlfriend is 25.
27:49
Yeah. She's a baller. She's
27:52
just got her head in her
27:54
shoulders. She knows what she wants. She's lived
27:56
life and she's a real
27:59
honest. trooper at the end
28:01
of the day like she knows
28:04
what she wants she keeps it real with me
28:06
and Like
28:09
because of that I owe her so much because
28:11
she teaches me a lot and she inspires me
28:13
and she's just Beautiful
28:16
and every day like we'll be going to the gym
28:18
and she's wearing a cool outfit Well,
28:20
we'll go to lunch and she switches the outfit
28:22
again. I'm like, dude Should
28:25
I change? Like she's
28:27
always on it. She's on 10 always
28:30
and I love that so
28:32
much about her and she's always like She's
28:36
so quick with her friends too. She's always
28:39
up to date on what's going on. She's I
28:42
don't know She's like 10 steps ahead of
28:44
everyone and and so for that I love
28:46
her so much, you know And and when
28:48
something happens, she'll be able to like have
28:50
foresight over everything. It's like someone Wrong
28:54
sir, she'll she'll know she'd be like I noticed you
28:56
did that thing Like
28:58
I noticed this person did that thing When
29:01
we went out last night, I thought that was really
29:03
weird like and then like two weeks later
29:07
You just find out that person's with a terrible
29:09
person online. You're like what? How
29:11
do you call these things? She's just really
29:13
intuitive and smart and I and I learned
29:15
so much from her through that you're in
29:17
love Yeah, no, I know her
29:19
I can read her really well and she could
29:22
read me really well. I'm in love man That's
29:25
amazing. Yeah, very special. It's
29:27
very special. How's your love by sack?
29:29
It's pretty good. It's pretty good. Yeah
29:31
Yeah, it's good. It's good. I mean,
29:34
I'm in love very similar I do very much understand
29:36
what you're saying I do understand like when you're talking
29:38
about living with somebody and how you have
29:40
to kind of merge lives and it's all woven Yeah, and yeah,
29:43
it's really interesting. No, it really is
29:45
you guys do anything fun You
29:48
guys been a Disneyland together Yeah
29:51
Hell yeah, I'm the powers together. Whoo.
29:53
You know London. There you
29:56
go, you know, we went to Australia Oh,
29:58
that's that's how you do it. Then you're somehow
30:01
media saying say go out of
30:03
he has been together We've been
30:05
together for a year and three
30:08
months every six there so a
30:10
real travel a lot together to
30:12
eggs were just two peas in
30:15
a partner rookie you year and
30:17
see each. Other
30:20
down, there are three months,
30:22
Nine months. And the
30:24
time and year. Yet. No. It's not
30:26
just feel the he usually dog metals are
30:29
there. So isn't ten years Mugshot The first
30:31
record. Why does it start with Mugshot for
30:33
uses the Berkeley? She's realizing she's in love
30:35
with this person. A Mugshot The and saved
30:37
A it's kind of starts and. Stops.
30:40
Or to have a relationship. Where'd she says
30:42
to realize as his fall in love with
30:45
this bad boy who's on the ads are?
30:47
I think Love Bites is like the. Introduction.
30:50
Of what the relationship isn't starts
30:52
and night one and then I
30:54
guess Mozart is really chapter two.
30:56
We wanted to come with at
30:58
first because one, that's what people
31:01
know. For me, it's. Odd
31:03
pop punk but it's also got loaded
31:05
of rock flair to switch syllabus something
31:07
new. the solos really cool just like
31:09
all around catchy song but it it
31:12
it on. A really captured
31:14
the the idea that's arm of like
31:16
where the music was heading and the
31:18
direction as going and I would say
31:21
my arms a little bit more. About.
31:25
A dozen my album I didn't say
31:27
that people from my when I'm Coming
31:29
now I die I like months on
31:32
and so I would say like than
31:34
the direction that my new music is
31:36
going and is more my saw him
31:38
yeah I didn't say that dollars to
31:40
me as. Still
31:42
his name, but listen to music is
31:44
waiting for you. Amazon Easy. When.
31:46
You think? The.
31:48
Ever miss a thing about.tick tock
31:50
Hype House stays. No.
31:54
no none are really at
31:56
all i honestly think i
31:58
treasure my piece more And
32:00
I think there was probably something
32:04
intense going on just about every day that Hype
32:06
House was a thing. And
32:11
I had really strong friendships with everybody.
32:13
It just seemed like we were all competing
32:16
with each other in a sense. And
32:20
when I wanted to
32:22
make music, when I wanted to really step
32:25
into that space and I needed them to
32:27
be like my friends and supporting me the
32:29
most, when I moved out of the Hype
32:31
House, I didn't have them
32:33
there for me. And that
32:36
really upset me. It stuck with
32:38
me. They made it the whole joke of
32:40
the reality show is how I am
32:42
like leaving the Hype House and becoming a
32:45
musician and how it's this bad thing. And
32:48
I don't know, it left a sour taste
32:50
in my mouth that they were not in
32:52
support of me switching my career paths, but
32:54
were in support of everyone else doing their
32:56
own thing now. But when it
32:59
was me, they just didn't
33:01
appreciate it. And yeah,
33:03
now you can kind of tell that all the people
33:05
that I had real friendships
33:07
there with have just, it's
33:10
just grown apart because of
33:13
me making that decision for myself. But
33:15
are any of them any relevance or
33:17
doing anything? I have no idea. It
33:19
looks like a giant scam. I
33:22
know. Did you make
33:24
any money? Zero. Yeah, like
33:26
it just looked like an older guy taking
33:28
blatant advantage of a bunch of younger
33:31
people who had looks in talent
33:33
that he didn't have. And
33:35
like, it was weird. The
33:37
whole thing's fucking weird. And the guy
33:39
shows up on my feed from time to time
33:41
going, I'm selling my house. Fuck you,
33:43
man. It's the same guy, right? Yeah.
33:46
And by the way, I think I've been in the same room as
33:48
that person, I think, but I, someone
33:51
told me we may have met him one time.
33:53
I'm sure you've met him out in a bout
33:55
before. Whatever.
33:58
Looks like a, like a. Oh
34:01
energy un only there's still there's a
34:03
whole new cast the characters now. Yeah,
34:05
he bore falling forward still. Isn't
34:08
a meal why I'd. I'd
34:10
have no idea but I mean people did
34:12
when they moved into the house they had
34:14
like Zinni Move and ah Jacob, De and
34:17
Blake they started in the only man new
34:19
people and and then people cheat tab leaving.
34:22
Bows really weird as they move from West
34:24
Hollywood to buy a house and more part
34:26
of our outside of L A. and so
34:29
I had to make a conscious decision when.
34:31
Everyone in my life was telling me fuck
34:33
no don't move our way of melee. You're
34:35
making music now you have to be by
34:38
the Psu You're you're going every day Yeah
34:40
and sounds like okay let me try to
34:42
meet them halfway. It's I moved to Encino
34:44
and they were so upset about I'm like
34:46
did I am thirty minutes now from you
34:48
and thirty meds for my city out That
34:50
makes me happy. but then after I moved
34:53
and that is. Were. Just salty.
34:55
The I was spending more
34:57
time doing music than. Putting.
35:00
My time and some making brand Elsa
35:02
the Hide house and like there is
35:05
like yeah we'll we'll cover euro if
35:07
you make conflict for being promos for
35:09
us we said fuck no and so
35:11
we never did one and. Obviously
35:14
we would Now we would. Never is a
35:16
deal is a they weren't gonna cover rent,
35:18
they were going to save all the having
35:20
stuff and cover their rare and. I
35:24
me at the in the day they were just
35:26
like worse and put our money and soon like
35:28
what we already have gone on at this house
35:30
and oh my god they just made a crazy
35:32
decision to like drop all this money that they
35:34
just started making on a house and like yeah
35:36
it was it was as him at the end
35:38
of the day like we had the stuff and
35:40
target. We. Had typos Merson Target didn't
35:43
make a buck from that, didn't make a
35:45
buck from the the Mertz and we had.
35:47
We each had our our separate on. Codes.
35:50
for like a man wanted to like
35:52
support of certain creators no mere bucks
35:54
in the lights or anything to do
35:56
with high pass like you've probably profit
35:58
awesome the videos that we made, you know
36:00
what I mean? They get fused. I had sense here.
36:02
Yeah, exactly. Wait, so is Vinny and
36:05
all of them still a part of it? No. Everyone's
36:07
pretty much gone. I haven't really seen
36:09
much of it recently, but you know. I
36:11
just, I've seen him on my page being
36:14
like, I'm still in my house. This is
36:16
my trillion dollar house. That's, by the way,
36:18
horrendously ugly. Like, God, you
36:20
either have such a small penis
36:22
or like really, really, really, really
36:24
bad childhood trauma. So bad.
36:26
A little bit of both, you know. So
36:30
bad. Everything you're saying is the same stuff Alex
36:32
was saying when he was here a while ago.
36:34
Oh, we're, okay. Yeah, no,
36:36
I mean, I love Alex, right? Like, at the end
36:38
of the day, when we see each other, it's fucking
36:41
all good and dandy, you know. We, like,
36:45
still share ideas with each other. Still talking
36:47
the phone every now and then. We still, like, when
36:49
we see each other when we're out, like, we'll
36:52
catch up. And it's civil, but I
36:55
think I'm friends with, like,
36:57
maybe five people from the Hype House.
36:59
Rylan Storms, Nick
37:01
Austin, Alex
37:05
Kover, and yeah,
37:07
that's about it. That's four.
37:11
Yeah, about it. Can you describe what it means
37:13
to be a D or brand ambassador? I always
37:15
see motherfuckers out there being an ambassador. I
37:21
don't know what the, like, the verb version of that
37:23
is. Ambitioning?
37:27
No, an ambassador. An ambassador. No, but like, what
37:29
does an ambassador do? There's, like, a verb of,
37:31
like. They ambasp it. You
37:35
rep a brand, and by
37:38
being an ambassador, they give you a check
37:40
they don't give anyone else. They.
37:43
A check? Yeah, you get kind of a check.
37:45
Paperwork, Ducky's on. And
37:50
you have, like, a list of deliverables, whereas
37:53
most people, It's kind of like
37:55
one-offs, and like, hey, can you come to our show? There's.
38:00
A lot less long list of the people you
38:02
can't work with. And
38:04
I'm fine with that because of the
38:07
other day. like I've grub, christened, your
38:09
was the coolest brand to me and
38:11
always says knew how to get it
38:13
done, knew what was classic and. I've.
38:15
Always thought it was seconds and now being able to work
38:18
with them after a long time. And
38:20
how how long has a been
38:22
how long have you been in
38:24
Ambassador have been? I've been avast
38:26
there for about four years later
38:28
easily get his new deal every
38:31
year. Yes yes it's a year
38:33
long contract. in the it's a
38:35
renegotiation. How. Silly
38:37
five leases or. Yeah. No
38:39
fly. Sweet. Hotel,
38:42
you know? My.
38:45
Slides the just a new clothes randomly
38:47
yeah actually they this this i'm in
38:49
stuff on our on random and then
38:51
know like if I'm performing for something
38:53
we asked them i got a birthday
38:55
party next face like hey we have
38:57
this going on and he's gonna keep
38:59
them of today with were you doing.
39:02
They'll come through. Down. There. Ham
39:05
during a year. Now
39:07
under. His core
39:10
sketch shape of your him for your next
39:12
brain ambassador you me or is not any
39:14
object or you get that the or that
39:16
good Skechers as how can I do that
39:18
Salah? guess I want them scattered. The you
39:21
know need to vent know where to put
39:23
him on the slide right? him? Either that
39:25
I'm pretty sure. let's all the skechers. I
39:27
realize there's a certain caught okay and I
39:29
waited. the life lock in Chelsea boots and
39:32
that. Security
39:34
since he was are intensely
39:36
was come on you know
39:38
you loves himself. Seabirds. The lil
39:40
blackpool with the fuck insert you have
39:42
on. Toughest thing ever Yeah yeah probably
39:45
give me like discomfort not not Mars
39:47
a pretty comfortable together at once Doc
39:49
Martens of those what are you have
39:52
to break and dogs. Not.
39:54
The being a month. Not. division one
39:56
i got being in dot on right now
39:58
they feel like slippers scary go So
40:01
listen to love bites. There's an EP waiting for you
40:03
plus new music could be on the way after that
40:05
Which is so exciting Really excited
40:07
to watch you turn into a rock star like the
40:10
quest the journey continues, you know The
40:12
journey is always continuing. It's always gonna be
40:14
drawn. Fuck. Yeah, I met your girlfriend one
40:16
time. Yeah, do you remember? Where were we?
40:19
You don't remember your Monica. Oh, you
40:21
just can't you remember? I thought
40:23
everything. Yeah, that's pretty impressive. Eh? It's
40:26
really good. She had a good energy. She's very protective
40:28
of you. Yeah. Yeah, like she's very
40:30
protective Yeah, here's what you very much. She
40:33
does now. She loves me so
40:35
much. It's really special. Yeah, I
40:37
forgot that we Did that
40:39
but now that you mentioned it? I believe from was there to You
40:42
ain't yeah boyfriend. Yeah. No, I think I did. Yeah.
40:45
Mm-hmm Well, we were like both like
40:47
running to get into the concert is about to start really
40:49
good. Oh my god. Hi I'm She's
40:52
a good egg. Yeah healthy.
40:54
Mm-hmm. I'm really happy for you, man.
40:56
Thank you. Thank you so much. I mean, dude she Has
40:59
me jumping up at night in the morning
41:02
going like going on hikes and going to
41:04
the gym with her We went on a hike this morning. Oh, yeah.
41:06
Yeah, I like that. Yeah, how well
41:08
good you like it Yeah,
41:10
I love them people get up early and do something. That's what
41:12
I do Yeah, find a girl that does that with you. I
41:14
can I or dog Or
41:16
dog. Hey, I if you
41:19
if anyone's looking to adopt at all Let me know if
41:21
three that I'm fostering Dm me
41:24
I've always wondered this or people get a lot of
41:26
tattoos and they're young you still like them all I
41:28
love all of my tattoos. They embody me and I
41:30
will say that and so I'm in the grave and
41:34
Because you can't really do anything about them or because
41:36
you really mean it. Oh, I totally 100%
41:38
mean it yeah, I have the rest
41:40
of my body planned out and I'm
41:43
waiting for the right moment for each one.
41:45
I have The
41:47
rest of the sleep planned out the rest of my chest My
41:51
back my legs damn everything I
41:54
know what I'm gonna do but I
41:56
think it's always a matter of time because I
41:58
rushed when I did these I knew exactly
42:00
what I wanted, but I
42:03
feel like I went and did it
42:05
all within a year. And when people get a
42:07
new tattoo, you have to let it be its
42:10
own thing, you know? I get a new tattoo and
42:12
then I get a new one the next week. But
42:14
now I have been taking my time. I haven't gotten
42:16
a tattoo in a year, but I've been dying to
42:18
get back in because I have a chess
42:21
piece that I want. And
42:23
then when the time is right
42:25
and when I'm going
42:27
on a six month bender of
42:30
just going to the gym every day, I want
42:33
to get a big chess piece right here. Do
42:35
you consult your girlfriend before you do these things
42:37
or on your design? I
42:39
talked to her about it, but no one
42:41
can change my mind. I know exactly
42:43
what I want for the tattoos on my body and
42:46
they're all sick. I'm a big guy
42:48
when it comes to my theme. It's
42:51
kind of like a Renaissance theme and
42:54
it's got a little bit of sticker
42:56
tats, but it's also just like all
42:58
this old medieval,
43:01
like, so this is
43:03
a dagger. And then I forget what this
43:06
is called. Yeah,
43:08
I got a few weapons on here. A
43:11
bunch of shit. I got
43:13
a castle. I got a graveyard. Pretty
43:17
thank you. Then on this arm, I
43:19
got this is my most recent one. I got timber
43:21
and tattoo. That's cool. And
43:24
what's next? What's next? I'm
43:26
getting a vampire playing a harp. Cool.
43:29
Yeah. And he's got like a huge cloak
43:31
on. It's the coolest ever. Are you the vampire? Yes. 21st
43:34
century. 21st century vampire. Come
43:36
on now. Got it. It's weirdly.
43:39
I was watching you like your smart like you
43:41
give vampire a little bit. I have things. Are
43:44
they real or like? No, I mean, this is my
43:46
teeth. Yeah. Yeah.
43:49
It's not like I sharpen them or anything. Actually, it might be a little
43:51
bit of like chewing on my other
43:54
teeth. I just got like anxious and I
43:56
bite down. Oh, interesting. Yeah. So
43:58
that might be how it's developed. Yeah,
44:00
I've always had like sharp teeth. I don't
44:02
know why. Damn. I
44:04
think it's anxiety. Now you know it is
44:07
anxiety. Yeah. Well
44:09
it works for you. It's built to hold
44:11
it whole aesthetic or whole brand. Yeah,
44:13
no it has. Will become a
44:16
tattoo. And part
44:18
of that, thanks to like little Tracy, little Pete too.
44:21
Because I used to love them when I was a
44:23
kid and still do. I'm
44:26
friends with Tracy right now. And
44:28
I just
44:30
really, I really loved the
44:32
goth, like vampire aesthetic. It's always like stood out
44:34
to me and what I've always wanted to be
44:37
like a tattoo theme of mine. That's
44:40
sick. Thank you. Wish I
44:42
can get tattoos. You can. You know it's
44:44
possible, right? Yeah, I'd just be making mistakes.
44:47
Wow. Yeah, when my mom told me is if you think about
44:50
it for six months, then you can get it. And
44:53
I didn't listen to her the first time, but after
44:55
20 tattoos, now I listen to her. So.
44:59
That's crazy. Barely
45:01
been alive for 20 years. Yeah.
45:05
21, about as we 22. 20
45:07
poo. Listen to Love Bites. There's
45:09
a link below. You good? My
45:11
last comment is, Headlock from your first
45:13
album is a really good song. Oh my god, thank you. I
45:16
went back and listened to the album this morning and Headlock's really
45:18
good. Thank you so much. Headlock
45:20
was the one that I did as an
45:22
intro song when I went out on stage.
45:25
And it's not like the biggest
45:27
song ever, but it's dude, it's such
45:29
a sick vibe. It's got a great
45:31
pocket that lives in and it's also
45:33
a great intro song. But
45:36
yeah, no. Respect.
45:39
Yeah, approved. I just
45:41
thought it was great. Yeah, he was wondering. Yeah, I
45:43
know he was. Yeah. Thanks for being here, man. Yeah,
45:46
no problem. Thank you guys for having me. Thanks for
45:48
repping the Love Bites, sir. Yeah, doh. Come
45:50
back though for the album. We're always here. Oh,
45:53
yeah. The album. Whatever. No album.
45:55
No album. Listen to the EP though.
45:57
It's not Amazon Music. Huddy, everybody. Listen to the intro
45:59
to the album. No. No.
47:00
No. No.
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