I recently connected with Ivan in relation to his research and insights about "achieving flow in service organisations" (check it out: https://itrevolution.com/articles/flow-in-a-service-organization/), and I am super happy to learn about 0800-DEVOPS in the process.Not only is Ivan a gifted connector and host, he also manages to curate and present a highly relevant roster of topics and guests across the domain of modern software engineering which puts both customer (value) and developer (well being) in the centre of the conversation.Despite the hype, it is obvious that GenAI will significantly transform the nature of software engineering, hence it is even more important to never lose sight of what really matters and what to watch out for when navigating this space as an engineering leader.Ivan does a great job at that with 0800-DevOps, highly recommended !