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Why Ketchup Is Magic, and More on Delights of Taste from "Life in Five Senses"

Why Ketchup Is Magic, and More on Delights of Taste from "Life in Five Senses"

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Why Ketchup Is Magic, and More on Delights of Taste from "Life in Five Senses"

Why Ketchup Is Magic, and More on Delights of Taste from "Life in Five Senses"

Why Ketchup Is Magic, and More on Delights of Taste from "Life in Five Senses"

Why Ketchup Is Magic, and More on Delights of Taste from "Life in Five Senses"

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Happier with Gretchen Rubin. To

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show my appreciation for the support

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and enthusiasm of listeners, I'm

1:54

providing an excerpt from the audiobook of

1:56

my latest book, Life in Five Senses,

2:00

the senses got me out of my head and

2:02

into the world, now available

2:04

in paperback. This

2:06

excerpt is from the chapter Tasting,

2:08

The Taste of the Tea and

2:10

the Cake, or Why Ketchup

2:13

is Magic. It

2:15

was so much fun to work on

2:17

this section of the book, and by

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the way, ever since the book has

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come out, people have wanted to talk

2:24

to me about why ketchup is magic.

2:27

I hope you enjoy listening to this

2:29

excerpt. Tasting

2:39

the Taste of the Tea and the Cake,

2:41

or Why Ketchup is Magic.

2:46

Once could it have come to me

2:48

this all-powerful joy. I was

2:50

conscious that it was connected with the taste of

2:52

the tea and the cake, but

2:54

that it infinitely transcended those

2:57

savors. Marcel Proust,

3:00

Swansway. Because

3:03

it was the height of summer, the

3:05

air had a baked, trapped quality. Except

3:08

when I could find some shade from

3:11

a building, the sun beat down on

3:13

me from above, and heat radiated upward

3:15

from the sidewalks and streets. The

3:17

breeze created by passing traffic lifted

3:20

dust and trash without creating any

3:22

cool relief. The sky was

3:24

so bright that if I had forgotten my

3:26

sunglasses, I would have had to turn back.

3:29

I was walking from a meeting to my

3:31

subway stop when suddenly I felt extremely

3:34

thirsty. I didn't have

3:36

to walk far before I found a

3:38

handy corner store, and I stepped inside

3:40

to survey the contents of the beverage

3:42

cooler. Alongside the usual

3:44

assortment of soft drinks and energy drinks,

3:47

I spotted a snapple Diet Peach

3:50

Tea. I hadn't seen that label

3:52

in years. I paid, and as

3:54

soon as I was back on the sidewalk,

3:56

gulped down a mouthful. The

3:59

sweet, smooth fruity flavor instantly

4:01

transported me back to law

4:03

school. Students were

4:05

required to spend a certain amount of

4:08

money in the law school cafeteria, and

4:10

I drank gallons of Diet Peach

4:12

Snuffle there. By the time

4:14

I graduated, I was thoroughly tired

4:17

of it. But now,

4:19

after so many years, the tea

4:22

delighted me. After the

4:24

first swig, I slowed down to

4:26

savor it like an expert. I

4:28

switched it around in my mouth

4:30

to appreciate its over-the-top peach kick

4:32

and its surprising dusty note. Its

4:34

flavor brought back the intense, cloistered

4:37

atmosphere of that time. Jamie

4:40

had been in law school with me, so

4:42

with difficulty, I stopped myself from

4:44

finishing the whole bottle. I

4:47

took it home so he could share the

4:49

taste and the memory. Taste

4:53

is a sense that's enormously popular, and throughout history,

4:55

people have gone to great lengths to pursue the

4:58

delicious. The demand for flavorful ingredients such as pepper,

5:02

cloves, and cinnamon altered the shape and

5:04

fortunes of empires. People love taste-related activities

5:08

such as cooking, exploring farmers

5:10

markets, trying new restaurants, sampling

5:12

wines, and

5:18

even talking, reading, and watching TV shows

5:20

about taste experiences. What we eat, with

5:23

whom we eat, how we

5:25

eat, and when we eat are essential

5:28

choices that tie us to our identity,

5:30

our memories, and our culture. While our

5:33

five senses can give us a quick lift

5:35

or a pleasant distraction, we also sometimes succumb to

5:38

temptations from the senses, and in particular, to taste,

5:43

in ways that aren't healthy. Few people

5:45

seem bothered by their love of rap or

5:49

abstract expressionism, but many people complain that they can't resist

5:51

a donut. For

5:55

my part, I'd never been adventured. and

6:00

exploring tastes. I enjoyed

6:02

many foods. I just wasn't

6:04

as interested in expanding my taste horizons

6:07

as most other people seemed to be. As

6:11

humans, we love pattern and predictability, and

6:14

we love novelty and surprise. But

6:17

people differ in how much predictability

6:19

or surprise they want. I

6:22

eat the same food, prepare the same

6:24

way, just about every day. New

6:27

York City is wasted on you, a friend

6:29

scolded me. You could try any kind

6:31

of food, but you just want to eat

6:33

plain grilled salmon. Yup. Because

6:37

love of food is often held up as

6:39

a marker of an enthusiasm for life, my

6:42

lack of passion has always made me feel

6:44

a bit inadequate. Cooking

6:46

icon Julia Child declared, people

6:48

who love to eat are always the best

6:51

people. Food essayist

6:53

Jean-Antoine Breat-Savarin wrote,

6:56

tell me what you eat, and I shall tell

6:58

you what you are. What

7:00

did that say about me? My

7:03

most important personal commandment is be

7:06

Gretchen. I wanted

7:08

to accept myself and also expect

7:11

more from myself. Dissensive

7:13

taste gives so much happiness to

7:15

so many people. I couldn't help

7:17

but feel that I was missing out, and

7:20

that I could learn to appreciate taste

7:22

more. Much of

7:24

our response to tastes, I learned, is

7:26

hardwired from birth, because taste

7:29

conveys the life-saving information of

7:31

whether a food is likely to be poisonous

7:34

or nutritious. But how

7:36

many basic taste categories can we

7:38

perceive? Four, five,

7:41

six, fourteen? I

7:43

was surprised to learn that the number was

7:45

still under debate, because tastes

7:48

such as fatty, soapy, metallic,

7:50

and starchy hadn't yet been

7:53

widely accepted. I

7:55

decided to explore the five tastes

7:57

considered standard in the West. sour,

8:01

bitter, salty, and umami.

8:04

Because sweet foods often provide energy

8:06

and nutrients, we're born craving

8:09

sweetness. We seek it constantly and

8:11

in the last 500 years

8:13

it has over mastered the world. We

8:17

also love salty. If we

8:19

don't eat enough salt, we die. It's

8:22

the only rock we eat. It's

8:25

a universal flavor enhancer

8:27

that lifts sweetness, deepens

8:29

umami, and masks bitterness, which is

8:32

why people salt their grapefruit or

8:34

coffee. We tend to

8:36

add more, more, more salt until

8:38

we reach the intolerable tipping point

8:41

of too salty. A

8:43

bitter taste often signals the presence

8:45

of poison, so we find

8:48

it distasteful until we learn

8:50

to embrace the taste of coffee or

8:52

escarole. A sour

8:54

taste signals the presence of

8:56

acid in items such as

8:58

limes, cranberries, yogurt, wine, and

9:01

vinegar. The mouth-puckering sting

9:03

of sour gives a zest to food

9:05

that tastes flat, though at some

9:07

point, and people differ as to

9:09

what point, people find a

9:11

taste too sour. Umami,

9:14

or savory, entered

9:16

the taste lineup surprisingly recently. In

9:18

1908, Kamas Kikunai Ikeda proposed

9:23

its existence to describe the

9:26

full-bodied meaty quality found in

9:28

items such as broth, cooked

9:31

meats, tomato products, walnuts, fish

9:33

sauce, soy sauce, aced parmesan

9:36

cheese, and red wine. Adding

9:39

the seasoning monosodium glutamate, or

9:42

MSG, boosts umami,

9:45

and contrary to rumor, doesn't

9:48

cause any negative health effects. We

9:51

often confuse bitter and sour, perhaps

9:53

because they often appear together. I

9:56

used an orange to remind myself of the difference,

9:59

biting into into a segment gave me a

10:01

sour taste, while chewing a piece

10:03

of rind gave me a bitter taste. The

10:07

right combinations can make food and drink

10:09

more delicious. The salt

10:11

and Parmesan cheese helps bring out the

10:14

flavors in a salad. The

10:16

umami of mushrooms improves a bland

10:18

sauce. The sugar in

10:20

tonic water cuts the beverage's bitterness. Surprisingly,

10:23

a can of Schweppes tonic water

10:25

contains almost as much sugar as a

10:28

can of Coca-Cola. But

10:30

because of quinine's bitterness, it

10:32

doesn't taste nearly as sweet. I

10:35

hadn't tried tonic in years, so I opened

10:37

a small bottle and took a thoughtful sip.

10:40

It was sweet and bitter by turns,

10:42

with a fizz of carbonation. When

10:45

it comes to taste, and the

10:47

senses generally, we may dislike

10:49

an item if it violates the sensory

10:52

patterns we expect. Who

10:54

wants watermelon Oreos? Cheetos,

10:57

lip balm, Frito-Lay

10:59

lemonade, touch of yogurt

11:02

shampoo, or frozen meals

11:04

from Colgate? But

11:06

as improbable as it seems, these

11:09

are all actual products. Weird

11:12

mashups do make for a good

11:14

prank, however. No one expects to

11:16

find ham-flavored candy canes in a

11:18

Christmas stocking. As

11:20

I'd learned in my investigation of the sense of

11:22

smell, simple taste is

11:24

quite different from more complex

11:27

flavor, which combines taste and

11:29

smell. We can taste

11:31

sweet, but for the

11:33

specific experience of chocolate, strawberry,

11:35

or caramel, we need our sense

11:37

of smell. In what's

11:39

called the olfactory location illusion,

11:42

or oral referral, we

11:44

experience the food's flavor as coming through

11:47

our mouth, even though our

11:49

nose furnishes much of that flavor. Genetic

11:52

factors mean that some people can

11:54

detect certain aspects of food, such

11:57

as bitterness, sweetness, and creaminess,

12:00

intensely than others. For

12:03

instance, during my fragrance class,

12:05

we tested ourselves by putting phenyl

12:07

thiol carbamide test strips on our

12:09

tongues. To me, the

12:12

paper tasted slightly bitter, which marked

12:14

me as a taster, while

12:16

a few super-taster classmates found the

12:19

strips intensely bitter. Age

12:22

is a factor in how we taste, too. As

12:25

we age, we may lose some of our

12:27

sense of taste, often because our sense of

12:29

smell isn't as acute. Children

12:32

love sweets, and this love

12:34

isn't just cultural. Children

12:36

are hardwired to prefer more intense

12:38

sweetness and saltiness than adults, and

12:41

they also seem more sensitive to

12:43

bitterness. And, for reasons

12:45

that aren't clear, children

12:48

love sourness. Candy

12:50

aisles are packed with

12:52

popular super-sour choices, warheads,

12:55

toxic waste sour candy,

12:57

tearjerkers, and research suggests

12:59

that from about age five to nine

13:01

years, kids really do prefer

13:04

sour tastes much more than

13:06

babies or adults do. It's

13:09

also true that our taste preferences can

13:11

change from moment to moment because we

13:13

enjoy a taste, even something

13:15

we love, less and less with

13:17

each bite. In

13:19

an unexpected experiment, I lived

13:22

through an example of sensory-specific

13:24

satiety and its counterpart,

13:26

the buffet effect, at dinner one

13:28

evening. Jamie likes to

13:31

cook, but when he's making dinner, he

13:33

doesn't worry much about having everything ready

13:35

at the same time. One

13:37

night, he, Eleanor, and I sat around

13:39

the table eating his meatballs, and after

13:41

three meatballs, I said, wow,

13:44

I can't eat another bite, at

13:47

which point he pulled out a tray of

13:49

roasted cauliflower, one of my favorite foods. As

13:52

I loaded up my plate, Eleanor said, I thought

13:55

you were full. I'm too

13:57

full for more meatballs, sensory.

14:00

specific satiety, I said, but

14:02

I've got room for cauliflower.

14:04

Buffet effect. For

14:06

this reason, some restaurants present a series

14:09

of small dishes to keep the sense

14:11

of reward high. We

14:13

can trick our taste buds. For

14:16

fun, I popped a miracle fruit tablet

14:18

into my mouth. Made from

14:20

the berries of a West African shrub,

14:22

the tablet contained a protein that, in

14:24

the presence of acid, tricked my tongue

14:27

to fire up the taste of sweetness.

14:29

When I sucked on a lemon slice,

14:32

it tasted like over sweetened lemonade, and

14:34

when I bit into an unripe strawberry,

14:37

it tasted like candy. I

14:39

also tried crunching Szechuan buttons, which made me

14:41

feel as if I'd stuck an electric buzzer

14:44

in my mouth. These buzz

14:46

buttons stimulated my trigeminal nerve,

14:49

the large nerve that also allows us to experience

14:51

the astringency of red wine, the

14:54

burn of chilies, and the cool

14:56

of mint. Our upbringing, our

14:58

culture, and our values help us decide

15:01

what to eat. Even

15:03

in the least restrictive cultures, people

15:05

don't eat all foods that are

15:07

nutritious and available. Some

15:10

foods are considered acceptable, and

15:12

others off-limits. Why will I

15:14

eat cow but not horse? Why

15:16

have I eaten a cow's muscle but not a cow's

15:18

liver? Which, not long ago,

15:20

was a popular dish in the United

15:22

States. I've never tried

15:25

crickets, even though they're

15:27

nutritious, environmentally friendly, and I've

15:29

heard tasty. In

15:31

general, if we haven't had a positive

15:33

eating experience with a food by age

15:35

25, we probably won't embrace

15:37

it. While our

15:39

sense of taste dominates our experience of

15:41

eating, the other four

15:44

senses also make significant contributions.

15:47

First, appearance matters.

15:50

Back in the first century, the

15:52

Roman gourmet Epischus noted, the first

15:55

taste is always with the eyes.

15:58

The Fiery orange of Cheetos, Tell

16:00

their brains to expect a big hit

16:02

of flavor and steamed vegetables look more

16:04

appetizing when they keep their bright colors.

16:07

In the United States we associate

16:09

the color blue with salty. Read.

16:12

The sweet and green with

16:14

sour. People rape popcorn assault year

16:17

when they eat from the blue ball and

16:19

is sweeter when they eat from a red

16:21

bull. Sounds. Also

16:23

influence how something tastes. Would

16:26

an opera caught have the same flavor if

16:28

we didn't hear that sauce quilting sound during

16:30

a bite? In. One study

16:33

people rated. Potato chips is fresher

16:35

tasting when they heard a loud or

16:37

crunch. In another study,

16:39

people were asked to rate two

16:41

identical. Loans One poured from a

16:44

corporate bottle and one poured from a

16:46

screw kept bottle. When. Participants

16:48

heard the pop of a court being

16:50

pulled. They gave the wine a higher

16:53

rating and they also raided it as

16:55

more likely to spark a celebratory. Mood.

16:58

And it's the sap crock one pop that make

17:00

rice. Krispies serial fun to eat. Smell.

17:04

Of course. Is essential to a

17:06

foods flavor. For. That reason, prepared

17:08

foods often don't taste as good

17:10

as the foods we cook because

17:12

we don't get the smells of

17:15

roasting, caramelize and grilling or baking

17:17

that would otherwise walk through the

17:19

air to build our anticipation and

17:21

boost the flavor of the meal.

17:24

When. We're deciding whether something tastes

17:26

good. Were also very influenced by

17:28

it's mouthfeel. Soggy. Christie.

17:31

Creamy, silky, lamy,

17:34

grizzly, gooey, grainy,

17:37

Oily, And G

17:39

E C thinly fancy,

17:42

stringy, I love the

17:44

word mouth. So. Clunky.

17:46

So apt. Different.

17:49

Cultures appreciate different textures.

17:51

For. instance east asian and

17:53

southeast asian cuisines embrace a

17:56

far wider range of textures

17:58

including slippery spring rubbery,

18:00

chewy than those in Western

18:02

cooking. I

18:04

experienced food spy sensation delight one Sunday

18:07

morning when I walked into the kitchen

18:09

to discover that Jamie was busy at

18:11

the kitchen counter. I

18:13

sized up the ingredients heaped on

18:16

the counter. A frittata, I guess?

18:19

Wonderful! I loved

18:21

everything about Jamie's frittatas. The

18:23

sharp pop and drifting scent of onions

18:25

and red peppers as he sauteed them.

18:28

The springy texture that melted in my

18:30

mouth. The deep yellow and brown

18:32

colors glistening in a round baking dish.

18:35

As he heated a skillet, I couldn't

18:37

resist flicking some water onto its hot

18:40

surface to hear the sizzle. A

18:42

sound I'd only recently noticed that

18:44

I loved. Later,

18:46

as we all dug in, I said to

18:49

Jamie, you make the best

18:51

frittata anywhere. Sharing

18:53

food is an ancient, universal, and

18:56

revered human custom and is one

18:58

of the most important expressions of

19:01

community. Eating together

19:03

is a way to strengthen relationships

19:05

and offering food as an essential

19:07

ingredient of hospitality. In

19:09

fact, we often eat foods we don't enjoy or

19:12

eat more or less than we'd like out

19:15

of respect or affection. For

19:17

many people, sharing food means

19:19

love. Shared

19:21

tastes are a crucial part of shared

19:23

identity within a culture and

19:25

also within a family. I

19:28

like certain foods like tuna fish

19:30

salad, chili, and stuffing only

19:32

when they're prepared the way my family makes

19:34

them. Other people add things

19:37

like raisins or walnuts where they don't

19:39

belong and I don't understand that

19:41

deviled eggs aren't improved by onions and

19:44

that meatballs should never contain chunks

19:46

of mushrooms. When we're sad or

19:48

worried, we often turn to comfort

19:50

foods. Foods that in

19:52

our personal gastronomy suggest peace

19:55

and security. Eating

19:57

foods satisfies our five senses and so

19:59

do is preparing food. Every

20:02

Christmas of my life, I've made gingerbread

20:04

cookies with my family. Buying

20:07

gingerbread cookies wouldn't be the same. As

20:10

acclaimed chef Carla Hall pointed out during

20:12

an interview on the Happier podcast, it's

20:15

one thing to break bread together, it's

20:17

another thing to make bread together.

20:20

I may not be a connoisseur of taste, but

20:22

few things boost my happiness more than

20:24

enjoying a meal with people I love.

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a Taste's timeline. When

22:52

writer Marcel Proust ate a tea

22:55

soaked Madeline cookie, he was famously flooded

22:57

with memories of the past. And

23:00

today the Proust effect refers to

23:02

an intense emotional memory sparked by

23:04

the senses. However, while

23:07

Proust's Madeline moment is often associated

23:09

with the power of scent, Proust

23:11

actually writes more about the taste

23:13

of that famous Madeline. As

23:16

I reflected on my own taste

23:18

memories, I immediately thought of Winstead's,

23:21

a diner in Kansas City. I'm

23:23

sure that I've sat in every booth, touched

23:26

every plastic menu and pulled

23:28

napkins from every dispenser. When

23:31

I was growing up, it was a treat to

23:33

go whenever my mother didn't feel like cooking or

23:36

when a day was particularly busy. I

23:39

always order the same thing. So over

23:41

the years, I've graduated from a

23:43

single Winstead burger to a double

23:45

Winstead to a triple Winstead without

23:47

the bun. Winstead's

23:50

diner is an important symbol of

23:52

our family identity and history. We're

23:55

a family that loves Winstead's.

23:58

Every time Elizabeth or I return to

24:00

Kansas City, we eat at Winstead's on our

24:03

very first day back. We always

24:05

take a photo in front of its

24:07

green neon sign, and we've taught our

24:09

own families to love Winstead's. How

24:11

many times have I heard my father say,

24:14

I'd like a double Winstead please

24:16

with everything, no cheese. Every

24:19

time we dig into those flat,

24:21

lacy, spicy burgers, I feel the

24:24

connection strengthen. On my

24:26

last visit, I swiped a menu at

24:28

the souvenir. Inspired

24:30

by Proust and by Winstead's,

24:33

I decided to gather my remembrances

24:35

of taste's path in a timeline.

24:39

To conjure memories, I tried to

24:41

recall the tastes that were most

24:43

typical, the food and drink

24:45

that I most often tasted during that period,

24:48

or most distinctive, the

24:50

food and drink that I enjoyed at that time,

24:53

and no other time. Childhood.

24:57

Winstead's burgers, fries, onion

24:59

rings, and chocolate frosties. Our

25:02

family ordered and continues to order

25:04

some combination of these items at

25:06

every visit. Pop-tarts.

25:09

My sister and I loved strawberry

25:11

pop-tarts, but we were allowed to

25:13

eat them only when we were visiting our grandparents.

25:17

My mother's meatloaf. This

25:19

meatloaf is still one of my very

25:21

favorite foods. The secret ingredient

25:23

is no secret

25:26

ingredient. My

25:28

father's Swedish pancakes. Every

25:30

time he makes them, he announces, these

25:32

taste just like the ones my neighbor, Mrs.

25:34

Barjell, used to make when I was a

25:37

boy. It makes me happy

25:39

that the tastes of my childhood tie me

25:41

back to my father's childhood. Golden

25:44

Graham cereal. This super

25:46

sweet cereal was my school day breakfast

25:49

for years. College

25:51

and law school. White

25:54

Russians. My roommates and I made

25:56

these heavy, sweet drinks during freshman

25:58

year. Rice

26:00

Pudding from Naples Pizza. I

26:02

lived across the street from this favorite

26:05

college hangout which was famous for its

26:07

rice pudding. Sangria

26:09

and tortilla chips from Viva

26:11

Zapata Restaurant. Like all

26:13

college students, we were always on the

26:15

hunt for free food and as long

26:18

as we kept ordering pictures of sugary,

26:20

cheap sangria, we could ask for

26:22

more chips. Greek

26:24

Salad from York Side Pizza. This

26:26

salad features giant chunks of feta

26:28

and extra black olives. I still

26:30

order one whenever I'm in New

26:32

Haven. Diet

26:34

Peach Snapple, of course. My

26:38

daughter's childhoods. Baby

26:40

food. Every once in a while,

26:42

I snuck a taste. Pepperidge

26:45

Farm Goldfish. My

26:47

daughters loved these cheery, orange,

26:49

fish-shaped crackers. Cheerios.

26:52

This O-shaped cereal was another favorite

26:55

snack. Healthy

26:57

Apple Muffins. I

26:59

couldn't resist ordering these moist, dense

27:01

muffins when I worked on my laptop

27:03

in a coffee shop across

27:05

from my daughter's preschool. Shredded

27:08

Wheat Cereal with Salsa. The

27:11

only dish I ever invented. I

27:14

was looking for a vehicle for salsa

27:16

that was healthier than tortilla chips and

27:18

I had the inspiration to use shredded

27:21

wheat cereal. While I

27:23

admit it doesn't look appealing, it's

27:25

delicious. Today. Chaffle.

27:31

Cheese and Egg Waffle. Every

27:33

morning, I heat my electric waffle maker, mix two eggs with shredded

27:35

cheddar cheese, pour

27:37

the mixture onto the patterned surface, close the

27:40

lid, and after a few minutes, pull

27:42

out my browned, crispy chaffle. Almonds.

27:47

I eat a lot

27:49

of almonds. Raw and roasted,

27:52

salted and unsalted. Cauliflower

27:55

and broccoli. I never tire of cauliflower and

27:57

broccoli. I

28:00

lean slightly in favor of cauliflower. Cobb

28:03

salad. I usually don't eat

28:05

mixed foods, but I do like Cobb

28:07

salad. Frozen raspberries.

28:10

I love raspberries, and they're easier

28:12

to keep stocked when they're frozen.

28:16

Asking myself the specific question, what

28:18

taste do I remember from a

28:20

particular time helped me to dredge

28:23

up memories of scenes that I

28:25

hadn't thought about for years. I

28:27

didn't even need to track down

28:29

these items to eat them. Just

28:31

recalling their tastes was enough. I

28:34

called Elizabeth to reminisce. Remember

28:37

all the wheat bins we ate in the

28:39

car whenever we took that day-long drive

28:41

to North Platte? Yes. Also

28:44

Cheez-its, she reminded me. We always

28:46

brought a box. What

28:48

else do you remember? Mom's pork

28:51

chops. We ate those once a

28:53

week, and I loved them, and I've never

28:55

eaten a pork chop since. Oh,

28:57

I remember those. And remember

29:00

when they visited how Grandma and Grandpa

29:02

would bring a coffee cake? Yes,

29:05

in the yellow tin. I hadn't

29:07

thought about that old cake tin in

29:09

decades, but it was right there

29:11

in my memory. Then I

29:14

started to laugh. You know what else

29:16

I remember? What asked

29:18

Elizabeth? How much you loved

29:20

butter. I still love butter.

29:23

You had that way of buttering saltines, then

29:25

putting them in the toaster oven to melt

29:27

the butter. And then that one

29:29

time, the toaster caught on fire. We

29:32

screamed for Dad, and he came and

29:34

just blew out the fire, like

29:36

the big bad wolf. Well,

29:38

Elizabeth admitted, that may have

29:40

happened more than once. The

29:43

nostalgia of recalling these tastes made

29:45

me feel closer to my own

29:47

past and also closer to

29:49

my sister, because these were

29:51

memories that no one else shared. And

29:54

In fact, research suggests that feelings

29:57

of nostalgia can help people feel

29:59

happier. There. And. Less lonely. Remembering.

30:03

The case of my childhood made

30:05

me curious to hear about my

30:07

daughter's taste memories. Think

30:10

back to when you were much younger, I

30:12

said to Eleanor of lunch. Of Jamie's

30:14

laid a specialty and onion tart.

30:17

What? Tastes stand out. For.

30:20

My birthday parties we'd buy those big

30:23

boxes of fruit loops and read literature

30:25

was to make fruit loop necklaces she

30:27

said. All my friends loved that

30:29

song was cell. Phone and said what

30:32

off. For. A long time I

30:34

had sunk you peanut butter on whole wheat

30:36

bread for breakfast. Also. I

30:38

ate a lot of raisins. Raisins.

30:42

Do. You remember how we had the jars

30:44

of golden raisins? I'd eat them out

30:46

of my special top. I

30:48

forgot about the raisins. Everything

30:51

that sticky from the raisins. Next

30:54

I called Eliza to ask about

30:56

her memories and associations. When.

30:58

You went to college. What tastes did

31:00

you miss most from home? Parmesan.

31:04

She said at home. I can eat it

31:06

at any time, in any form. True.

31:09

Thanks. To Eliza, we keep many forms

31:11

of Parmesan in the fridge at all

31:13

times. And she added i remember

31:15

how you use to make me warm

31:17

milk when I had trouble falling asleep.

31:20

When. I was little. Old six years

31:22

old or had so much trouble sleeping.

31:25

I had completely forgotten about that

31:27

period when allies the couldn't sleep.

31:30

But. Then the memory of heating up her

31:32

milk in the microwave than adding vanilla

31:34

and cinnamon came back to me. And.

31:36

With it the feeling of being the

31:39

mother of young children. With. It's

31:41

many sleepless nights. In

31:43

what's called the Reminiscence Bump. Adults

31:46

tend to remember most vividly.

31:48

Their experiences. And between the

31:51

ages of fifteen and twenty five.

31:54

By. Attending more closely to my

31:56

five senses, I found that I

31:58

was recalling more memories. More

32:00

times in my life. These. Memories

32:02

had been preserved, But. I'd

32:04

never thought about them. Now that

32:07

I was paying attention. They'd begun

32:09

to surface. Revisiting.

32:11

Old taste made me happy. But.

32:13

Also wistful, So. Much

32:16

in my life had changed. Or

32:18

vanished altogether. As

32:20

Proust observes during his reflection about

32:22

the taste of tea and cake.

32:26

When. From a long distant

32:28

past, nothing subsists. After.

32:30

The people are dead after

32:32

the things are broken and

32:34

scattered. The. Smell and taste

32:37

of things remain poised a long

32:39

time. Lotta. Soul. Ready.

32:42

To remind us. Waiting.

32:44

And hoping for their moment. amid.

32:46

The ruins of all the rest. And

32:48

bear on faltering in a tiny

32:51

and almost impalpable drop of their

32:53

essence. The. Vast structure

32:55

of recollection. Every

32:59

time I returned to Kansas City,

33:01

I visit Winstead. And I

33:03

wonder how can it have saved

33:05

so little incentive to seems to

33:07

me. Yet even if

33:10

when said close it's. I

33:12

can remember. Those days. Every

33:14

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as Demonstrated

36:35

by the fact that my favorite restaurant was

36:37

a diner I didn't

36:39

have a very adventurous palate, but

36:41

I realized that there was another way to

36:44

find more joy in taste I

36:46

could cultivate more appreciation for the

36:49

familiar tastes of my own kitchen

36:52

Just as I'd done with my sense of sight. I

36:55

could look for what I'd overlooked I

36:58

decided to explore two familiar

37:00

yet Magnificent flavors both

37:02

so common and so cheap that

37:04

they're discounted and even disparaged Despite

37:07

being wildly popular these

37:10

two flavors ketchup and

37:12

vanilla First tomato

37:15

ketchup people love the tomato which

37:17

is one of the most widely

37:19

consumed foods in the world Wherever

37:22

it has been introduced people have added

37:24

it to their cuisine in The

37:26

United States the tomato is second only

37:29

to the potato as a popular vegetable

37:32

Despite the old trick question the tomato

37:34

can qualify as both a fruit and

37:37

a vegetable and the US Department of

37:39

Agriculture Categorizes it

37:41

as a vegetable Scarlet

37:44

viscous and delicious ketchup

37:46

is one of the most popular ways to

37:48

consume tomatoes Ketchup

37:51

started in China hundreds of years

37:53

ago as a fermented fish sauce

37:55

called kochiap Which eventually made its

37:58

way around the globe to the United States? States,

38:01

where tomatoes became an essential part

38:03

of the recipe. Nowadays,

38:05

about 650 million bottles are

38:08

sold each year, and about

38:10

97% of Americans have a bottle

38:13

in the refrigerator. We

38:16

don't give ketchup much thought, and

38:18

many people even dismiss it as

38:20

the condiment that undiscriminating eaters use

38:23

to overpower the flavor of anything

38:25

it touches. The flavor

38:27

of ketchup, however, is exceptionally

38:30

complex. Heinz

38:32

ketchup is the rare food that

38:34

has the magical ability to hit

38:36

each of the five basic tastes.

38:39

Sweet, sour, bitter, salty,

38:42

and umami. That

38:44

span may explain why ketchup is

38:47

well-loved both as itself and

38:49

also as the secret ingredient in

38:51

many popular foods, such

38:53

as chili, meatloaf, and stir-fries,

38:56

and in many sauces and dressings, such

38:58

as bolognese sauce, barbecue sauce,

39:01

sweet and sour sauce, Russian

39:03

dressing, and Thousand Island dressing.

39:07

Still, ketchup retains its

39:09

stigma. At a business

39:11

lunch, a colleague mentioned that she was going

39:13

to a Thai restaurant for dinner, and I

39:15

told her, guess what I

39:17

just learned? A main ingredient in

39:19

American pad thai is ketchup. Pad

39:22

thai is basically noodles with ketchup.

39:25

She wasn't happy to hear it. I

39:28

thought I knew the taste of ketchup well, but

39:31

after learning more about it, I decided

39:33

to give it more attention. I

39:35

pulled the bottle of Heinz ketchup from

39:37

the refrigerator door, squirted a

39:39

dollop onto a spoon, and put

39:41

a little on my tongue. The ketchup

39:44

did indeed hit all five tastes,

39:46

and its aftertaste was just as good

39:49

as the immediate explosion of flavor. Plus,

39:52

I admired ketchup's rich, shiny red

39:54

color and its thick flowing texture.

39:58

I tried to think of other five tastes wonders.

40:01

My best answer was the margarita cocktail

40:03

with its combination of the salt on

40:05

the rim of the glass, the

40:07

sweetness of the agave syrup or

40:09

orange liqueur, the sourness of the

40:11

limes, and the bitterness of the

40:13

tequila. No umami though. Online

40:16

I asked people for suggestions of

40:18

more four or five taste foods

40:21

and they suggested many. Apple

40:24

pie with cheddar cheese, sweet

40:26

and sour pork, th,

40:28

depending on what you put in it. Crackers

40:31

with honey and a sharp cheese, pie

40:35

red curry, Worcestershire

40:37

sauce, tamarind fruit,

40:40

kichari. I

40:42

realized that we had one of those items in our

40:44

cabinet. I poured a few drops

40:46

of brown Worcestershire sauce into a spoon and

40:48

gave a taste. Sure enough I

40:51

could pick up sour, sweet, salty

40:54

and umami though I wasn't sure

40:56

about bitter. Discovering the

40:58

magic of ketchup and Worcestershire sauce made

41:00

me more eager to turn to my

41:02

next taste subject. Vanilla

41:05

or more precisely vanilla extract is something

41:07

we keep in our kitchen at all

41:10

times and I use it just about

41:12

every day. I've

41:14

always loved vanilla. Ironically

41:16

although the term vanilla is sometimes

41:19

used to describe something bland and

41:21

boring, vanilla is one of

41:23

the most powerful flavors in the world. We

41:26

tend to think of it as the flavor in

41:29

desserts like crème brûlée, tapioca pudding,

41:31

vanilla ice cream or vanilla

41:33

wafers but it's also often

41:36

a component of flavors like chocolate,

41:38

caramel and coconut because it balances

41:40

sweetness, masks bitterness,

41:43

adds creaminess and makes everything

41:45

taste better. In

41:47

the West our association of sweetness

41:50

with vanilla is so strong that

41:52

we can make something taste sweeter just

41:54

by adding vanilla even though

41:57

vanilla itself is not in fact sweet.

42:00

In East Asia, where vanilla is

42:02

associated with savory foods, eaters

42:05

don't experience this sweetening effect.

42:08

Learning about vanilla made me realize that,

42:11

although I love vanilla flavored anything, I

42:13

couldn't remember ever tasting vanilla itself.

42:17

I headed to the kitchen, pulled out

42:19

our bottle, and cautiously dabbed a drop

42:21

onto my tongue. The scent

42:23

drifting from the bottle was delightful. The

42:26

drop on my tongue tasted of alcohol.

42:29

Alcohol carries the vanilla flavor, with

42:31

a bitter kick that left a burn. And

42:34

it turns out, there was a reason that

42:37

I didn't taste much. Vanilla

42:39

has no taste at all. When

42:41

we add a teaspoon of vanilla to a

42:44

recipe, we're adding a pleasant smell, not

42:46

a taste. Surprisingly,

42:48

I learned, we can enjoy a

42:51

lot of vanilla. Most

42:53

flavors taste good at a certain level,

42:55

but taste bad when more is added.

42:58

Vanilla keeps tasting good even at

43:00

high levels. To

43:02

test this feature of vanilla myself, the

43:04

next time I spooned Greek yogurt into a

43:07

bowl, instead of adding the

43:09

usual three thin brown drops of

43:11

vanilla, I poured in an overflowing

43:13

tablespoon. I gingerly gave the

43:15

yogurt a taste. Still

43:17

good? However, if I

43:20

added a cup, I suspect that

43:22

would be too much vanilla. Starting

43:24

in the 1990s, vanilla

43:26

even became a dominant ingredient

43:29

in many perfumes, such as

43:31

the blockbuster perfume Angel. One

43:34

of my favorite perfumes is Tom

43:36

Ford's Tobacco Vennie. In

43:38

my fragrance class, I'd love the smell

43:40

of vanillin. Think vanilla

43:42

milkshake. While few scents

43:45

and flavors are loved everywhere, admiration

43:47

for vanilla seems to be fairly

43:50

universal. Maybe because breast

43:52

milk has a suggestion of vanilla.

43:55

When I stopped to notice, the flavors

43:57

of ketchup and vanilla became far more

44:00

more intense and enjoyable. I

44:03

found my taste adventures without leaving

44:05

my own kitchen. Thanks

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for listening to this excerpt from my book,

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Life in Five Senses, how exploring the senses

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got me out of my head and into

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the world. I hope you enjoyed it.

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To learn more or

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order your copy, head

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to gretchenrubin.com/book. Audio

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observed courtesy of Penguin Random

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House audio from Life in

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Five Senses by Gretchen Rubin,

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read by the author. Copyright

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2023 by Gretchen Rubin. Copyright

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2023, Penguin Random House, LLC.

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