This week Isabel and Elizabeth continue our conversation with Blu Buchanan, a PhD Candidate in the Sociology Department at UC Davis, and Co-Founder of Students and Workers Ending Racial Violence (SWERV). We pick up where we left off discussing the implications of putting "blue lives" on a pedestal, chat about the gap between laws and morality, and consider the relationship between arming police and an increase in police violence. We begin our conversation on the history of the "thin blue line," and its implications for modern use, with an emphasis on the importance of a symbol's context for its meaning, and an exploration of what type of groups feel comfortable using the "thin blue line" symbol.Stay tuned for part six of our conversation with Blu!Have any comments, questions, or ideas for future shows? Send us an e-mail at indivisibleyolopodcast@gmail.com!