Utah Governor Spencer Cox is a longtime Trump critic who is knownnationally for his work to depolarize American politics. 

This week, Cox easily defeated a far-right opponent in the Republicanprimary. So too did a slate of other Utah Republicans. While nationalRepublicans continue to move in Trump’s direction, in Utah, the Romneyfaction of the GOP is still holding its own.

On this episode of Deep Dive, Cox joins host and Playbook co-author RyanLizza to discuss Utah politics, as well as Cox’s disagreements withTrump; how he’s preparing to be cast as MAGA’s next boogeyman; what hethinks Trump’s other Republican critics, such as Liz Cheney and AdamKinzinger, get wrong; and why “disagreeing better” doesn’t mean givingup your most strongly held beliefs.

Ryan Lizza is a Playbook co-author for POLITICO.Spencer Cox is the governor of UtahKara Tabor is a producer for POLITICO audio. Alex Keeney is a senior producer for POLITICO audio.