One of Daniel's first interviews; he interviews Mike MacRoberts about addiction. Mike is the singer in our intro/outro music. The football over the wall story is incomplete: footballs would be cut open, filled with drugs and cell phones, then thrown over the fence and collected by inmates. Arts and Corrections, creative tools, Big Larry, The Actors Gang, Tim Robbins, Mark, Cameron, Fred, Black Swan Theory,

The College Dorm, CRC, Drugs, football full of drugs and cell phones, Firehouse, CIM, Baby hair, Ms. Peters, at risk youth performance, music, Two Minutes hate, 1984, Orwell, Nassim Nicholas Taleb, status quo, smuggled music videos out of prison, heroin, opiates, jailhouse hookup, Trashley tattoo, ATM armed robbery with finger, carjacking, Skinheads, San Diego, Nor Cal, Family visits (Boneyard), honorable men, POS, San Quentin, caldos, heroin in the ass while performing a yard concert, drug debt, no escape, death of a parent, smokeout in the bathroom, underwear model collage, dick chime, Der Bagel daily post almost causes a riot, railroad spike shank, “I take it all back”, Jesus and Judas, “Looks like Albert Pujols...no talent”, Large, Dopey podcast, 12-step meetings, attraction not promotion, Warden Matthew Martel, college courses, Coastline Community College, Riverside Community College, Grossmont Community College, grandma at graduation,  judge for a week, prison surgery with floss and sewing needle, stolen lighter, The Doc is born, cell phones at prison jobs, calls from dorm to jobs, dorm porter, suit up, punk, bitch, thief, rolled up, personal willingness to change, rude awakenings bring about spiritual awakenings, MMA fight, grand gestures, Compartment syndrome, deathbed vision, married with children, prepare for the unexpected, changing world, economic highs and lows, don’t give up!, the lynchpin honesty.

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