In this episode, Khaled Elmasri interviews Anastacio Torres, a fitness industry veteran with 19 years of experience. They discuss Anastacio's journey in the fitness industry, the importance of failure as a teacher, and the need for personal trainers to develop business acumen. They also touch on the evolving role of personal trainers as overall health coaches and the increasing focus on mental health in the fitness industry.

The conversation explores the excitement and passion for fitness equipment and trade shows. The discussion also delves into the differences between the nonprofit and for-profit sectors in the fitness industry.

The importance of community and member engagement is highlighted, emphasizing the need for genuine interactions and acknowledging members' interests. The significance of creating a strong community to differentiate from competitors is emphasized, particularly in attracting and retaining families.

Overall, the conversation emphasizes the value of personal connections and understanding members' needs and preferences. In this final part of the conversation, Anastacio Torres discusses the popularity of group fitness classes at the YMCA and the potential of virtual classes as a supplement.

They also explore the challenges and strategies for reinvigorating cycle classes. They then shift the conversation to leadership and the importance of learning from failure and seeking guidance from peers.

Anastacio shares his experiences at Lifetime Fitness and Gold's Gym and emphasizes the value of humility and collaboration in the fitness industry.