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Welcome back to another episode of Shit That Goes On In Our Heads.

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Today, we are joined by the wonderful, lovely Mari. Welcome, Mari. Mari.

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Thank you. Thank you for having me. I'm very excited to be here.

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I know. I'm excited to talk to you, especially after the day I've had.

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It's been wild, crazy workday. I feel like I need cleansing of sorts.

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Wait till you find out what's going on in my head.

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We can distract each other from our own reality and step into another reality together.

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So you've had a tough week? And I've had a tough year, it feels like.

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Yeah, I've had a tough week. But usually, and it's not the holidays either, because usually I always tell

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people, they don't even realize that people tend to get critically stressed around the holidays.

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Even if you think that you're like the most easygoing person,

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that you don't do much, that you don't prep much, we have so much expectations.

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We have so much pressure that we put on ourselves, even if we do the bare minimum.

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And everyone and their crowds everywhere, and everybody's shopping and everyone's

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like, what are you doing and what are you doing? Well, how about if I just stay home and do nothing?

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Wouldn't that be nice? I would love that, right? No presents, nothing.

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Just me, a book, maybe a cup of tea, a cozy blanket.

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This is perfect. This is what I want. This is what I want for the holidays.

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I swear to God, the two of you are soul sisters.

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I know. We started last year. I'm calling it a tradition.

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This will be our second year where on Christmas Eve.

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So my family, they go big on Christmas Eve. It's usually a huge party.

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Everybody dresses up. It's like a big thing. Right.

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And when you're younger, I think that that's fun.

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Again, like you just said, you're stressed towards the holidays.

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Same here. Work is crazy. It's not the holiday season that's stressing me out. It's everything else, right?

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So last year, same sort of scenario.

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We started a Christmas Eve that we would host, but it was come in your pajamas

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and we'll play games and laugh and take ourselves not serious at all.

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And we do a white elephant gift so that we don't have the stress of getting everybody something.

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I love them. And so, yeah, this year we're even thinking of like,

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let's just do like a taco bar. Like, why does it have to be a huge thing? Like, it's just, I just want it to

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be a relaxing, fun, stress-free.

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I feel like that would be even more fun. You know, a taco bar and like dessert bar maybe on Sunday.

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We can make that on Sunday. Yeah, right. Like make whatever you want with these ingredients.

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You know, I really do like that. I really do. It gets to me so much.

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Do you have booze included in that? Always. I do do a cocktail.

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I will commit myself to making a themed drink.

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This year, I keep seeing recipes on TikTok for a white margarita.

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I might go for... I love tequila. So like count me in on that.

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So yeah, there's liquor involved for sure.

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I like that. That sounds really good. If you're in Georgia, stop by. No, I'm just kidding.

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I'm not that far. You know, we live on like 9 hours? No.

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What's 11 hours? We just had so much fun last year.

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It was my in-laws and my parents and my brother and my nieces and nephews.

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We just had fun playing silly games, everybody everybody laughing.

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It was just a blast. It was the best. So this is what it should be about.

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Yeah. This is what it should be about. Not again, presence. Although,

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you know, I do want to get in presence. I won't lie.

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No, I do. But I mean, it should be about presence for, you know,

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things I must get accomplished, things I must do.

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And what if, you know, what if I don't cook 17 dishes and what if I order? I mean, I don't know.

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It's just too much pressure.

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Y'all should be like me. Every one present I buy somebody, I buy myself two.

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I like that. Yeah. So you got everything you ever need because you That is correct.

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I know. What does that leave everybody else to get you though if you're buying everything you want?

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I buy the expensive stuff. I like that.

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You can buy me the test toys. You can buy me, you know,

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a locator for my phone you know things like that you can buy me those kinds of things,

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but but you know i'm kind of bougie when it comes to my my electronics so you

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know i don't want to leave that in the hands of somebody you know that's inexperienced

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and doesn't live in my head mm-hmm.

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You know what you like? I like that. You know what I requested?

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And I'm being dead serious right now. I requested energy healing sessions.

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I'm not kidding. And that's not because this is what I do.

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It's not that. It's because I know that I cannot work on myself with myself.

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Because once I start getting gunk out and I start, I'm emotionally involved

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and it's very like, sometimes I get really, really deep and I feel like I need

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someone who's completely objective, someone who's not involved in the outcome, not emotionally involved in what's going on.

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So I have two teachers that I've worked with and now I go to them for my session.

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So I really want someone who's getting me presents, just get me sessions sessions

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so that I know that it's paid for and I don't need to worry about it and I could

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use them when I need them because I do need them. I mean, we all need them.

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Yeah. And for the listeners, we're recording this now before Christmas,

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but this is a PSA for you, Mari.

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Whoever's listening for your birthday, any gift?

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Nourishing feelings sessions. Because it's the best gift.

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It's with anyone it's with people i trust and

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i know that they they get the they get

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the job done yeah so yeah so talk to

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us a little bit about how you found that to be

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helpful for yourself okay so this is the story i tell this is this is completely

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true this is my story and it's true i spent over 20 years severe or depressed

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i didn't even know how bad how badly depressed i was i I didn't realize it because

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I had what they call functional depression, where you're able to get up in the morning and you're able to force yourself

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to do the things you need to do and go to work and take care of your family.

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And then I would wake up at night. Not able to sleep thinking to an outsider looking in, it seemed like I have

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everything everybody could ever want. I had a family, I had a career, I had friends, I was liked, I was respected,

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you know, everything was great. And I was thinking, what is wrong with me?

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What is wrong with me that I am so unsatisfied and I'm feeling this heavy fog

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that follows me everywhere. It's like, I felt like I went everywhere in this fog, you know,

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I couldn't feel things deeply. I couldn't get too happy.

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Nothing was working. I tried everything. I tried medication.

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I tried meditation. I tried therapy, conventional therapy.

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Some things helped a little bit. I'm not saying nothing worked.

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Some things helped a little bit, but nothing made that much of a difference.

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And so I said, okay, let me clean up my diet. Let me take out all processed foods.

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That helped a little. That didn't cure me. I don't like that word,

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but that didn't really help. Okay. Cold and hot showers, you know, ice baths, all the things,

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all the things that I tried everything and I was getting pretty desperate.

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I was thinking to myself, what's the point?

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What is the point? If this is how I'm going to spend the rest of my life, what is the point?

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And so, and I am a software developer by trade. So I'm very love brain. I'm very logical.

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If I can't taste it or smell it or see it, it does. I used to think that way.

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It doesn't exist. And so a friend of mine introduced energy medicine and I was

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very skeptical. I don't know what you're talking about.

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You know, this can't possibly help me. I tried everything else,

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but she convinced me to try a session.

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And reluctantly, very skeptical. I was very skeptical. I once,

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I probably was the worst client of that poor woman.

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I was like, explain to me how this is going to help me. Explain to me how this works.

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I want a scientific explanation, you know, because that's how my brain used to work.

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And so that one session was life-changing. And look, I'm not telling you that,

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again, that I was never depressed again, that that was the magical one that

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completely took all my worries away.

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It wasn't that, but it was the missing piece.

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It was that missing piece of the puzzle that made the whole puzzle come together.

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And it was like, what is that? What just happened to me?

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And it wasn't... Another thing is... And so I'll quickly say that I'll finish that. sentence.

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My ADHD gets me. And so I made it my life mission to learn all I can about energy

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medicine and energy healing. So I could bring this to people. I could show people that they have options

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that they may not be aware of. Because if you don't know it exists, you can't possibly use it, right?

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One of my passions is.

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Marrying the scientific approach and spirituality,

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explaining that what I do is not woo-woo, it's not pseudoscience,

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I don't dress up like a witch, I don't chant, there's none of that.

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I mean, there is place for that, I'm sure, somewhere, but that's not what I do.

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Most, I'll say most, I won't say all, most of the methods and modalities that

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I use are based on science. Mostly everything that I do can be explained by this is how your brain works.

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This is how your body works. This is how we don't question that there's energy when we talk about physics.

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There's energy everywhere. We're all made out of the same stuff.

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So I make sure to explain to all of my clients what I do, what it does,

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so that there's no mystery and they know exactly what they're getting into and

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what's going to happen. So they're not spooked and they're not scared.

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None of it is scary. None of it is scary at all.

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There's some things that I do that are a little out there that do require faith,

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but that's for people who want that kind of thing.

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Most of the stuff has to do with trauma, has to do with your emotions and your energy.

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And everyone knows we have chakras, right? We go to any yoga studio,

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there are chakras displayed everywhere. And just like we have.

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Blood vessels. Everybody knows that, right? We have blood vessels that carry

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blood to every organ, every cell, every muscle.

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We have energetic highways in our system that carry energy to every organ,

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every cell, every muscle. So what I do is I make sure that the energy is flowing smoothly.

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That's all I do. That's literally what I do. And I did say to someone,

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and they thought it was funny, but also disgusting, that I'm an energetic plumber.

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This is what I do. I dig going to your energetic system i get the gunk out because

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you want that energy to flow slowly. And if anyone ever is going to get an

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acupuncture treatment what is acupuncture you

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go and you say you have a headache and they take a needle and

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you and they put it in your foot and you're thinking what does that

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have to why aren't they putting in my head like you think right

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because i have they put these needles in

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specific points where the meridians meridians are

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energetic highways where they meet this is the place when your energy is blocked

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this is the place we're going to put a needle to unblock your energy this is

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exactly the same idea this is exactly what i do but and i'm not saying don't

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go to acupuncture it's a wonderful wonderful method and there's place for everything.

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And I always tell people, if you have a therapist you trust,

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please, by all means, go to therapy.

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If you have a doctor you trust, trust is the key. And they prescribe you medication,

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please take that medication. I will never tell anyone not to do it. But also consider adding energy healing

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into your regimen so that you get all of these things that are beneficial. So we'll work as a team.

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That was a lot of words. No, you're good. Taking a step back, I have a question.

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So you have a friend who recommends this and you go.

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Did you know what to expect? Walk me through what that first session was like.

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What was your experience? So the first session that I had was actually in the emotion,

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which is now one of the first modalities I got certified in.

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I loved it. I loved it. It's amazing. I actually flew out to Florida to a conference with Dr. Bradley Nelson,

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who is the creator of this modality.

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And I needed to meet him and I needed to ask him one question.

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I needed to have this question answered. I said, can you please tell me,

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is there any way that I could cause harm if I use the skin correctly?

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And he said, no, the worst thing that could happen is that you don't help.

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That's the worst thing that could happen. And I thought to myself,

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you know, I'm fine with that. If that's the worst thing that could happen and we leave things as is, I'm fine with that.

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I walked into an energy healer and she explained to me, she explained about the method.

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She told me that she's going to be using muscle testing.

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Muscle testing is also known as applied kinesiology.

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It's the study of how your muscles react to true and false statements.

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Your body knows, your subconscious mind has all the answers.

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Your body knows all the answers. And when we ask a question of ourselves, that is true.

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Our muscles react strong to the truth and weak to false.

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So there are ways to test that. There are many, many different ways to muscle test.

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I, in my practice, use what's called ring and ring method.

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I'm going to show you. I can't show the listeners, but it's basically two fingers

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interlocking like this. And so when you say true, something that's true, they're holding strong.

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But when you say something that's false, they come apart easily.

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And so I would ask a question and say, for example, my name is Mari.

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And I would try to pull them apart and strong because it's a truth statement.

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And then I will say my name is Samantha. And I'll try to pull them apart and comes apart much more easily because it's false.

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So what I do is and that's what that practitioner did. She asked a series of questions.

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She questioned one session, pretty much like this. Is there an underlying imbalance

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that's contributing to Mari's depression?" And the answer was yes.

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I was like, can I try to identify? The answer was yes.

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So she went through a whole... She has a chart, we work with charts,

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asking all these questions and try to identify them.

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One of the things, one of the main things that I was not even aware of,

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and none of us are, every emotion that you feel in your life,

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no matter how big or small, you could either process it and let it go,

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or it could get lodged in your energetic body.

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So no, that's your aura. Everyone knows you have an aura, right?

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And so that, we call it trapped emotion. It gets lodged. Now your energy is not flowing smoothly.

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And so what happens, it's like it's a little bowl of energy that's sitting there.

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Your energy is not flowing. You're attracting more of that.

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So with me, I was five years old.

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I was sleeping at night. I heard a noise.

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And I completely forgot this event because you don't remember this most of the time.

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I heard a noise in the hallway and I got really scared. I thought somebody broke

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into the house. I thought we have an intruder.

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Five-year-old, you're afraid what you're afraid of.

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And it was my mom. She was getting a drink drink of water, right?

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Nothing to be afraid of. But that fear, it wasn't that huge.

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You know, it wasn't like, man, if the house is burning down,

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but to me, it was big and important. It got launched.

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And so now I have this emotion of fear that's sitting there and vibrating certain frequency.

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Now I'm more likely to attract more fear because I already have this vibration, right?

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And then it grew into panic and then it grew into anxiety and then it grew and

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then it grew and then it grew and it became this overwhelming thing that ultimately

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contributed to me having depression that I never would have remembered.

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It's five years old, you know? And she was able to identify and release all of these emotions.

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And it took work. It wasn't one session. I had a lot.

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I had a lot. I had a lot. And look look just like you inherited i'm not

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saying new you i'm saying anyone you inherited your eye

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color your hair color from your parents right you inherit these emotions they

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may not be yours everyone talks about ancestral trauma this is what it is you

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inherit the stuff from grandparents 17 generations back you know or how about

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all these people who are watching 9 11,

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at 9 11 watching the towers fall right they're not related to one another any

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way shape or form but they're watching the same traumatic event.

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They experience the same shared emotion of panic and terror,

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whatever it was, fear, right? They all shared an emotion.

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So if I were to work with one of them and release that emotion, guess what it does?

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It releases from everybody else who shares it with them.

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Just like inherited emotions, it releases from you.

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If you got it from your dad, it releases from your dad. if

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he got it from his dad it's like it cleans the whole line

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it's amazing and this work is mind-blowing mind-blowing

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it's so simple it is so elegant and

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it's absolutely incredible yeah that's that's interesting having a son a i don't

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know how it happened but i think it must be just learned right like i am very

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aware and cautious with my own fears so that i don't influence him.

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Like that was something that I must have just picked up as a child,

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like seeing my parents fear their opinion or belief on something.

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And knowing that I have like for a very, this is a real example,

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but just to give you something to hold on to is I have a fear of whales.

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I don't like whales. I'm not going to SeaWorld, period.

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But when you have a child, child, they want to go to SeaWorld, right?

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So I know that if I, first of all, I would do anything to make my child happy, right?

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So I know, is the possibility of me going to SeaWorld high enough?

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Yes. If I did go to SeaWorld, I don't want him to see his mom afraid of whales

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because it's not really like it's an unreasonable fear and I don't want it to

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influence his experience at SeaWorld.

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And so like that is like a very real thing that like I think about with a lot

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of stuff stuff that we interact with every day is like making sure i'm allowing him to experience,

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his life in that moment without my influence yeah like i try so hard and i know

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it slips because we're not perfect but it's something that you know it's important to me to let him,

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not be influenced by my it's what do i understand that yeah it's what i'm moving

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into that the only thing i could say this is not as mari energy hero but mari

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mom who did the same exact thing No matter how much you try,

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they develop their own fears, they develop their own insecurities, and you just sit there and wonder.

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This is why I won't work with my daughter also, because when I started getting

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stuff out and I uncovered that she had anger towards me at the age of seven,

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and then I asked her, I said, was there something...

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I could get more... It gets more detailed than that.

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It's not just like... you know and i says was there

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something she says yes she says my friend had

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a box of crayons that were that these fans this is

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true she says really fancy crayons that i really wanted and you didn't get them

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and i was very angry with you and i said why did you ask me she says no i never

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asked you to get them so i had no way knowing she wanted them but she had the

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anger point is it hurts when i see which her emotions so i won't work with her but,

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fears and insecurities. And they're just like, wow, I tried so hard.

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I tried so hard. I watched how I spoke to her. I watched how I behaved.

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I tried not to show her, you know. Nope.

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So do you still have that fear like with the spiders? Does Little Nugget? Oh, he loves spiders.

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Okay. Yes. I'm trying to actually think back on if he knows how afraid of spiders I am.

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He probably does. He loves them.

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Snakes. Oh, I have a... Yes, snakes.

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I'm afraid. I'm afraid of a lot of things. But yes, snakes, I'm not a fan of.

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They had a petting, like a petting zoo, kind of like a wild creature guy at one of his schools.

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And I was distracted getting like a snow cone for my son and I turn around and sure as shit,

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this guy's there with like this huge freaking snake and I'm holding the snow

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cones and like just slowly crushing and melting them.

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But I was like, oh, it's great, honey. Yeah, pet the snake. I was like, oh my God.

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I just, because what made me think of that is just, I remember you sending me

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the picture of a spider near your tomato plants. And you're like, we need to burn it down.

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Yeah, I don't know if he knows how afraid I am. But I know he knows mom does not love spiders.

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He does. He doesn't love and terrify them. Yes, yes.

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But I am curious about whales. Because, you know, spiders, snakes.

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Oh, I know exactly where it comes from as a child. Like, it's like,

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literally feels like it happened yesterday. As a kid, we were in school,

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and we were in a library, and they had a lot of National Geographic magazines.

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And I pulled one, because I loved

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National Geographic magazines when I was little, for whatever reason.

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And I pulled one, and on the friggin' cover was two men in a canoe.

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Not technically a canoe, a small little boat, right? And a breached whale.

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And the visual of these two men who are bigger than me being so small compared to this whale.

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And I thought, dude, if that whale just like, I don't know, moved a certain

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way, that boat's toppling over. Down in the water they go next to this huge whale talking about it.

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I'm like, Like, and that's my fear is this huge, and it really is anything massive.

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Like I get like that with skyscrapers too. So I don't know, but the whale specifically. Comes in New York, yeah.

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Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Like I, like, oh yeah. But that's exactly where it comes

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from. And I know it's ridiculous. My friend's teasing about it. It's not ridiculous. It's important to you.

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Yeah, it's creepy. It's important to you. It made an impact on you. Yeah.

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Let's just say what's big and what's small, right? Right.

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Right and i i tell my friends that i've made

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it this far because i am safe and i

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don't go near if you ever

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considered getting rid of that fear okay not

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me not recommending my i'm not there is a modality that one of the ones that

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i actually use it's called side k it is phenomenal the reason i said not me

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it's because i only work with people that this is the only thing the only modality

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when I have to be in person. Everything else I do on Zoom and in person, but this is the only one because this is very important.

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This modality, everything I do is just mind-blowing. So this one is it changes

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the software of your brain. It doesn't change your brain. That's your hardware, right? It changes the software.

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It changes the programs that you're running and it's so freaking quick. And it's so...

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It is quick it is simple it will literally change the way you feel about whales

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or spiders or you know to spears anything anything it is crazy but i just can't

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do it on you know on zoom because,

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there's a reason for that yeah i think you should focus on the spiders before

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you do the whales No, just because they're everywhere.

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Spider haven. Do you really? Yeah, yeah.

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We're in Georgia and I've never seen, what are they, banana spiders ever in my life.

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And they were freaking everywhere on our trees.

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You looked up, there's these huge, it was, they were everywhere.

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And we had guests and they're friends of ours from the pest control podcast.

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And so we were sending photos one day after I had had a couple of cocktails.

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Tails i needed them to fully grasp and understand the dire

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situation i was in and they swear

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it's like the best spider to have like no leave them they'll eat

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all the little bugs and you know so i did any spiders how about no spider is

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the best i like that right right he was like well technically all spiders are

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venomous i was like done just burn it all down it's fine I don't like baby crawlers.

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I don't like... Yeah. Yeah. Okay. So you went in to your first session. It impacted you enough.

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I find it very interesting that this part of the puzzle that you would have...

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Never thought to be helpful or

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like a thing right because it wasn't i didn't know it was a thing and now

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it it has impacted you so much that it

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has become such a big part of your every day i just

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find that very fascinating so what has

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been i guess one of the coolest or most

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impactful things that you've learned about this new

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lifestyle well simple healing can

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be how straightforward and simple and

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quick healing can be I have stories

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I could be telling until tomorrow but the craziest stuff

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I mean I specialize in depression

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and anxiety and trauma just because that's what brought

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me you know to the plea but that's not

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all I do I have one client who she had

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foot fungus that wouldn't go away and she

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was taking medication for it and sometimes that medication could be heavy on

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the liver and could be you know she wasn't loving the effects of medication

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and she said it would go away and then come back it would go away two sessions

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it's been gone for a year she said her skin is so clear that you cannot tell

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there was ever anything there. That's crazy stuff like that's crazy stuff i have a client who two clients actually

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i was working Working with them at the same time, they were both trying to get pregnant.

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One lady has been trying for six years and another one for two.

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And they got pregnant at the same time. They got pregnant. I didn't get them pregnant.

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They're not your babies. I did the work.

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But what I helped do, and this is important, okay?

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I am not a healer. I don't heal people. That's very important to understand. stamp.

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When you fall down and you scrape your knee, you don't need to tell your knee

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that it needs to grow on your skin. It knows what to do.

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Your body has an innate ability to heal.

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When I cut myself today slicing potatoes, my skin, it's going to heal.

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I have a band-aid on just because it's uncomfortable, but I don't need to tell myself,

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well, now you start growing your skin it knows what to

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do all i do is help your body

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help heal itself and i remove energetic blocks so that it could do so efficiently

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and quickly so both ladies got pregnant that was incredible i was going somewhere

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with this i promise i was going somewhere they don't stress all the time believe me.

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I wanted to say oh yes so what i wanted to say is how

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quick it could be how incredibly easy it

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could be and how it could apply it could

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be applied to every area of your life it doesn't hit some people come to me

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not because something's wrong some people come to me because a they want to

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see how much better it could get and b some people come to me and they say look

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i'm stuck i've been been working at this job, you know, pays the bills.

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I'm unhappy, but I don't want to leave because he pays the bills and I have

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security and I've been there for so long. Can we see what's stopping, what's getting in the way moving forward?

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So what I was talking about before, the emotion code identifies trapped emotions we have.

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Then Dr. Nelson created another modality on top of that, that's called the body code.

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The body code deals with trapped emotions, yes,

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but also imbalances in your body in your

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chakras in your circuits and systems it looks

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for toxicity it looks for mold exposure it

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looks for organs and glands that need

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to be maybe maybe to be balanced how about disconnections when people experience

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a traumatic event you know how they seem like i dissociated or i left my body

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for a second because that was the only way to survive well people sometimes

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don't fully come back they come back but not fully so there's this disconnection.

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So the body code addresses all of you.

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And then there's another one that just came out and it's mind-boggling.

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It's called the belief code. It identifies your negative core beliefs, that subconscious programming that

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you've been running, that you're not aware, and how everything connects.

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So I work with people who want to make a change in their life.

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They're happy, but not 100%. Or maybe they want to be a little happier.

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So let's see. Let's see what we could figure out. let's see

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what's holding you back incredible with children

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absolutely incredible with children anxiety with

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children children's you know anxiety now we weren't

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we were under the quarantine i'm in new york we had it bad you know kids were

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on zoom they were studying on zoom and some kids they started school on zoom

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the little ones they never actually went to school and now suddenly they have

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to go to a classroom they're scared out of their minds they don't know what to expect expect.

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So anxiety with kids, very, very quick, usually.

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I mean, I'm not making claims and every case is different, but usually it's quick.

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Also because they haven't accumulated enough gunk yet. They're still little.

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Something else i wanted to say oh and a lot of times and i talk about this a lot.

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A lot of times people who are depressed they don't know that they're depressed,

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because what we think we think different what we think what what is traditional

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definition of depression right the feeling of gloom and doom but it could be so much more than that,

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food preference changes being on high alert all the time sleeping too much not

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sleeping enough up everyone knows that how about suddenly change it changing

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your behavior avoiding people you don't know something's wrong but you just

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can't be with other people you get tired super quickly,

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you know you your preferences change you get hot or you get cold there could

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be so many different things there's not one way to identify it so a lot of times

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people don't know what's going on and they'll come to me and says look i i don't

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know i'm just not myself and it's been going on for a a while.

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Nothing wrong. I went to the doctor, they did all the tests,

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there's nothing physically wrong with me, but just something doesn't feel right.

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Let's see what we could find out. Yeah. And I'll add one more thing is that

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the more I do this work, and this is really incredible, the more intuitive I become.

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And at this point, it is not haha funny, not not never funny.

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But it's a little funny how during a session, I will know exactly what this

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one thing that we're working on, what it was caused from, which event.

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I had a client. I have a client. He had, we uncovered emotion of, I think it was fear. I don't really remember. That's not relevant.

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Excuse me, four years old. And I kept saying, I see a big white dog.

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I see a big white dog. But I knew my client never owned any dogs.

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And then he sat for a second and he goes, oh my gosh.

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I was at a shopping mall with my parents, and they let go of their hand.

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His mom, dad, doesn't matter, let go of the hand that was holding them.

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And for a second, I thought I was lost. And there was a dog that was being walked towards me.

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And for a little four-year-old kid, seeing a decent-sized dog when he thinks

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he's lost, it was terrifying. And so he tracked that. So stuff I get in sessions is just, I don't know what

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happened when he was four, when he was at the mall with his parents.

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Yeah, that's really, really interesting.

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I wish I had known about this modality, you know, last year.

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I probably would have really benefited from it. Yeah, that's good.

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I probably would have gotten to the point where I got to. Yeah.

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This is why. So I started teaching free classes at my local library.

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And everybody asked me, why do you do this? Why do you spend so much of your

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time doing this and giving back? Because I want people to have tools.

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I want people to be able to help themselves. I don't want people to be depending

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on anyone, myself included.

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Included if someone wakes up in the middle of the night that's

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3 a.m and they're anxious and they're shaking and they

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can't sleep what are they going to do they

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can't call the doctor they can't call the therapist right you start tapping

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you start tapping EFT emotional freedom technique the scripts are available

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anywhere online there's so many scripts available they're super simple is it

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going to cure you no is it going to reduce your anxiety yeah it's going to help

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you it's not not going to make you sleepy, like so sleepy that you'll fall right back asleep. But it will take you down a natural tune.

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And a lot of times that's what you want. Point is, people don't know that all these things are about.

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And this is why I'm screaming from the rooftops. There are so many options.

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There are so many options. Yeah. I mean, that's huge. I

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think just in general, I mean, I think I can relate to what you had said.

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And G-Rex, I know from your personal story too, It's like you get to a point

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where you're desperate and you will try something new, right?

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Because you've tried things that have failed you in the past.

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And that's usually, I mean, it worked for me.

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It was when I learned what I

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thought was normal, like my normal state of being was me in survival mode.

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You know you don't realize that that's

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a thing until you actually talk and you speak to somebody you start

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to kind of uncover these things that you've like pushed down or you know or

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just quote-unquote dealing with right so i think for anybody that's listening

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that is at a point where they need something else i would recommend right like

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see see somebody like you and and figure out what they've been missing.

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What's the missing link? What's the missing link? Because sometimes,

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you know, therapy and, you know, person-to-person therapy just doesn't do it for people, right?

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And you need that extra something just to help, you know, get you over the edge.

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You know, for me, going to therapy and just sharing my story helped me tremendously.

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Because, you know, I didn't want anybody to feel as lonely and messed up as

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I felt. because on the outside, I look just fine.

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Exactly. I was making people laugh. I was getting my shit done.

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But on the inside, I was tapped out. I was done.

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You have a fair line inside, yeah.

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Fast forward a year. It'll be a year on Christmas. I feel so much better.

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I'm like a different person. That's amazing. I know how you feel. I know I could totally relate to that.

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From the outside in, everything was fine. fine. Everything was great.

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And I felt like I can't wake up another day because it was just so dark.

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It was so dark and so lonely. And you can't even explain, even if you have, not everyone has people who care

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and they could share things with. But even if you're lucky enough to have someone, it's not something you could explain.

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They don't understand it. There are no words to explain it. And so I don't want

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to say until they feel it. I don't wish that on anyone.

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But until someone experiences this, they don't understand what it feels like.

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Yeah. People are different and complex and...

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Not everybody's going to understand exactly what you're going through

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and yeah and i think for

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me is you know i couldn't find my voice and i couldn't find my footing so i

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couldn't really tell anybody what was going on because i was still trying to

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figure it figure it out for myself but you know i just got more and more depressed

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and i don't ever ever ever want to feel that way ever.

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I don't wish that on anybody because it's terrifying.

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It's terrifying. I agree. It's absolutely terrifying.

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It's scary. It's very scary. Depression is scary. Anxiety is scary. Panic attacks.

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Horrible. Horrible. When you really think that you're dying,

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you don't know what's happening. When I had mine, everything would go dark.

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The room would start spinning. I couldn't breathe. I couldn't speak.

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I couldn't explain what was going on. The scariest thing so i wish more people knew that there are options.

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Very very simple and one

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of the things i love about these modalities is that usually people

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feel a change after one session it's

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not again if you have chronic pain it's not

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going to go away after one session that's unrealistic but you

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may feel something shifted something's changed

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something feels a little different people will say

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i feel lighter i feel like something is changing yes

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yes because you're getting all the gunk out yes

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i love that i love that

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you know we're sharing this message you know just with our

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listeners because there may be people out there

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that have tried you know 10 different

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things and they still just feel the same you know

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and being able to have these resources and

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you know and and look this information up and have

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somebody to go to may make them feel better

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because there's nothing worse than going into

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you know therapy and you go session after session after session you

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still feel like crap exactly and you're paying for it and you're paying for

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it and then you keep thinking something must be really wrong with me yeah i'm

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broken right i'm doing work and nothing's changing and you know the pandemic

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is was It was absolutely horrible, especially for me.

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I'm not saying it was better for other places, but New York was hit really hard.

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But one good thing that came out of it is that now we're able to...

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People are so used to going on Zoom and working on Zoom. We could have these sessions on Zoom.

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I don't need to be next to you. You could be in Australia, you know,

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you could be anywhere, really.

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And actually, I prefer it that way, because if we're going to be uncovering

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your emotional and your energetic roots of your emotional and physical and mental

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problems, I want you comfortable. I want you in your favorite chair with your favorite blanket. it.

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I want you with your favorite mug of tea or coffee or whatever,

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you know, water, it doesn't matter. I want you as comfortable as you can be. I don't want you traveling to see me

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and then traveling home, processing what happened, what we talked about.

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You know, Zoom is incredible.

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There are a couple of things, like I said, I won't do on Zoom only because I

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need to meet, to watch person's breathing and their posture.

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But mostly everything can be done by Zoom. I do sessions completely remotely.

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I do sessions by email, but I don't even need to talk to someone.

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I don't even need to. Yes, everything is energy.

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We're all energy. I could tap into your subconscious mind with your permission,

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only with your permission. But if you come to me for a session, you are giving me that permission.

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If you know the session is going to be done by email. With children, children don't need to be present.

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Children don't need to sit with me in session. They could be playing three rooms away, five miles away.

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I don't care if a parent comes to me and asks for help.

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I just need parents' permission to tap into that child's energetics.

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And i know it sounds a little intrusive but it's really not it's and

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it's always for their best good i will it's not hypnosis i'm not brainwashing

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anyone i'm not making them like spinach and they don't like spinach there is

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i can't do that you know if i could do that my face would be on time square

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and every billboard you know i could make kids eat vegetables and not like candy,

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it's not it's not like that and it's only if your subconscious mind deems this.

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Intrusive and it finds that i shouldn't be doing this i won't get anywhere i

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will get a no and i'll stop the session simple as that this is so interesting

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i appreciate you sharing your personal story what your experience is and and

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how you've been able to help people i think I think this is amazing.

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So for our listeners, where can they find you if they're wanting more information on Mari?

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So my website is www.marihelps.com. It's M-A-R-I-H-E-L-P-S.com.

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My website crashed about three weeks ago. I had to rebuild it from scratch.

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Don't even ask. That was fun. So a couple of buttons are not working still. A couple of...

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I'm changing that. But the information is there, sessions are there,

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my pricing is there, and booking link is available.

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I customize each session based on the person. There's no one fit all.

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And my consultations are always free. I always meet with people who discuss

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what you want, what you're trying to accomplish out of session.

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I want to make sure people are comfortable working with me. It's very...

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Because I'm not for everyone. No one is. and my first session is $25 just again

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to show you what it looks like, to what it looks like, to give you a taste of

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it and then decide if you want to pursue it.

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So I think that's pretty accessible and this way they don't feel like they wasted

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their life savings on a session and it wasn't successful.

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Yeah, thank you. That is so awesome. Thank you, thank you, thank you. Absolutely.

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This was fun. Hi all, thank you so much for listening to this episode.

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